Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!

I don't know why some ISG users hate Asians or foreigners so much. Doesn't make any sense.

Asians' huge money actually maintain the FKK industries in Germany. Otherwise, locals money won't able to attract enough quantities and quality Romanian girls. Without Asians or America rich tourists, I believe most young girls will not come back or stay. The consequence is to left only old and ugly MILFs for locals. 50 per session.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2573771]Sagan couldn't even follow today on first ridiculous Brittany wall climbing for only 2 kms for about 100 meters up, when I don t leave my bed for less than 1000 meters up.[/QUOTE]I see, you were pulling the peloton when Sagan couldn't follow? Or what exactly is your point? You wouldn't last 5 seconds in the peloton.

Still waiting for your Strava files or any other GPS file to show what an amazing cyclist you are. I claim that my grandmother cycles faster than you.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2573745]When you and Mursenary are racing watch out for Pistons with a sign standing at the side of the road.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh5y1q-MDl0[/URL][/QUOTE]German woman did this, with complaint now versus her and German Toni Marin was injured and suffered today.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2573786]100% sure he won't accept. It's much easier to pretend on the internet than actually do something in real life.[/QUOTE]He told he should be in Europe on end of July / August, better for me on August around 10/15 for my holidays, when I won't drive so far for him, he is not attractive enough, on October. And Wellcum should be at least on same level on August, even no more Ferragosto party, than on October. But rather than being only a bullshitting follower like so many others, you never answered for my many invitations for Gran San Bernardino above Martigny, when I chose not too far for you. I m fully sure you are just not able, when I will climb 2 sides of Gran San Bernardino like every Summer and also plan to climb Zoncolan from Sutrio with 27% on top, new for me, and of course once more steeper side from Ovaro, for my pleasure to be able and to see Italians supporting as a hero, maybe they don't see any other topless. For sure when I arrive on top of Stelvio 2758 high. Look forward my great holidays.

[QUOTE=AmSexyBoy;2573823]I don't know why some ISG users hate Asians or foreigners so much. Doesn't make any sense.

Asians' huge money actually maintain the FKK industries in Germany. Otherwise, locals money won't able to attract enough quantities and quality Romanian girls. Without Asians or America rich tourists, I believe most young girls will not come back or stay. The consequence is to left only old and ugly MILFs for locals. 50 per session.[/QUOTE]No one hates them. Are they being denied entry into any club? On the other hand, some clubs denied entry to some other ethnicities even if they were locals.

But *some* Asians are lazy and don't bother to find pricing; some other Asians are easy pushovers; some other Asians are arrogant and throw their money around.

Some. Not all. And yes, some non-Asians are also guilty; but for good or bad, Asians have this reputation: so much so that quite a few girls proudly proclaim themselves as Asian hunters.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2573607]But having big brain is even better.[/QUOTE]Big Wallet trumps both.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2573578]I don't care about your schedule, I'm not a follower of yours. Just, when Zoncolan is not so close to Paris, I prefer on August for my holidays and after painful balls rush, even casting seem to be really not exceptional, Wellcum should be at least on same level on August than October.[/QUOTE]Just letting you know so you can one day man up. You claim greatness. But you don't want to post your times. And you don't want to accept a challenge because it is too flat. Now you don't accept Zoncolan because it is not the best time of year. Pussy.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2573859] ... you never answered for my many invitations for Gran San Bernardino above Martigny, when I chose not too far for you. I m fully sure you are just not able, when I will climb 2 sides of Gran San Bernardino like every Summer and also plan to climb Zoncolan from Sutrio with 27% on top, new for me, and of course once more steeper side from Ovaro, for my pleasure to be able and to see Italians supporting as a hero, maybe they don't see any other topless. For sure when I arrive on top of Stelvio 2758 high. Look forward my great holidays.[/QUOTE]I don't answer invitations from people who cycle slower than my grandmother. Those Italians you mention told me they saw some guy like an extra from a movie about a POW camp and that they couldn't stop laughing because it was so ridiculous. You claim that you cycle these climbs faster than Sagan, I claim that my grandmother is faster than you.

You can always prove me wrong with a Strava file or any other GPS file.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2573925]Just letting you know so you can one day man up. You claim greatness. But you don't want to post your times. And you don't want to accept a challenge because it is too flat. Now you don't accept Zoncolan because it is not the best time of year. Pussy.[/QUOTE]I won t drive 1300 kms and same back, for You I don t need to meet to get pleasure, but as You told You would be in Koln forrest on end of July, if You visit Wellcum around 10/15 August, usually casting being at best, even not anymore 2017 level, I should also be around in Dolomiti or Austrian border, if you want to make real sport which help to perform with girls. Size also matter, even less with WGs than in real life. Met a ex Globe natural beauty, she would be the most attractive look for me at Globe, but moved to Cleo. Ch, who seemed terrorized to get animal full inside of her, low level for sex, not really a woman when she worked at Globe. Let me know for August while I m on holidays. I doubt your friend here from Zurich will come to Gran San Bernardino, when I'm ready to take risk in his dangerous country to go close for him.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2574011]I should also be around in Dolomiti or Austrian border, if you want to make real sport which help to perform with girls. Size also matter, even less with WGs than in real life.[/QUOTE]Okay, when? Give me a date in October. Put up or shut up.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2573872]No one hates them. Are they being denied entry into any club? On the other hand, some clubs denied entry to some other ethnicities even if they were locals.

But *some* Asians are lazy and don't bother to find pricing; some other Asians are easy pushovers; some other Asians are arrogant and throw their money around.

Some. Not all. And yes, some non-Asians are also guilty; but for good or bad, Asians have this reputation: so much so that quite a few girls proudly proclaim themselves as Asian hunters.[/QUOTE]Indeed. The proudest of paying extra is quite wild.

[QUOTE=Beijing4987;2573775]It's time jettison the rants about two wheeled heroes To a different thread. It happened on the Thailand threads, for comments and reports about Annie's and Tulip massage dens. A trust fund braggart was responsible for "stupid shit in Thailand. Think of a heading. "Rants and Tour de Lance" ? I was the one by the side of the road. At least they are not cars driving in circles.[/QUOTE]What other thread than rants and WTF would you propose? Seems well placed if you ask me.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2574179]Okay, when? Give me a date in October. Put up or shut up.[/QUOTE]Your wrote before you would be in Koln forrest on 30 July, didn't you? Can 't you be at Wellcum after Koln? When do you think you worth I drive more than 2500 kms to go and back, for you? Anyway, I really wish to be healthy enough to start on Saturday 3 July with Iseran. After 2 really sad Winters with no ski, would be really sad not to climb 25 highest ranked for more than 30 000 meters up, just for pleasure for my holidays.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2573987]I don't answer invitations from people who cycle slower than my grandmother. Those Italians you mention told me they saw some guy like an extra from a movie about a POW camp and that they couldn't stop laughing because it was so ridiculous. You claim that you cycle these climbs faster than Sagan, I claim that my grandmother is faster than you.

You can always prove me wrong with a Strava file or any other GPS file.[/QUOTE]Read better: I wrote I was happy and proud of my speed on top of Loze which is the steepest, compare to Sagan in gruppetto who couldn't be too late, not to be kicked off. And I really wish to be faster on this Summer, when I always only go to try to be faster, when I don't have same high tech bicycle but I don't need, nor same preparation, nor same dopping, just for my passion and pleasure for my holidays. I m pretty sure you would not even be able to climb Loze, just look at profile, nor even Gran San Bernardino which is much less difficult. For sure, a bit more sporty than laying on back at Globe, heart is a bit faster.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2574083]..If a year from now, 150 per 60 minutes becomes the norm in Darmstadt, then we should accept it. I just think accepting 150 per 60 min as the "market rate" during summer of 2020 is a little premature....

As an aside, most of the Americans I have met are probably in the 80-95th percentile. $250 K per year is not exactly rich. What they share in common is a dedication to the hobby, as evidenced by their willingness to travel across an ocean. Many are single bachelors with no offspring and no alimony to pay. And if they are age 50 or older, they might have received some inheritance. These mongers spend probably a third (or more) of their disposable income on the hobby. Contrast that to locals who come from every income bracket and generally have lower dedication to the hobby.[/QUOTE]Tbh, 150 an HR has already been the norm with a lot of Asian hunters if things like DFK and BBBJ (which used to be included in a typical 50 session till 5 years ago) are thrown in. I am hoping it will not go up much more than 150.

Rich is a dirty word these days. This link is a simple but good read.

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/08/opinion/sunday/what-the-rich-wont-tell-you.html[/URL]

Anyway, basing adjectives such as rich and wealthy on annual income is somewhat useless. A 28 year old hotshot banking associate making 250 K can hope to become rich one day. A 50 yr old dude with stay at home wife and 2 kids in college making 250 K is solidly middle class (or even lower middle class if living in bay area). It all depends on how long you made that amount, how much is going away in taxes, where do you live, so many other factors. I think HNWI is defined as being $5 M or even $30 M wealth level; personally, I would go with the latter. This is for the US. No clue about other nations.

"1/3 of disposable income on the hobby" - I doubt that you will find stats anywhere for this sort of thing. First, who qualifies as a hardcore traveling international monger? It is tough enough to find good data on wealth and income levels of normal people let alone for this specific subset. We will not know what their disposable income is either. That might not even matter. To use your own example, disposable income has no meaning in the case of a 50 year old single dude who inherited his money. He is spending out of his wealth and not annual income; some mongers may spend consistently similar amounts year after year, some others may monger hard for a few years and completely withdraw from the hobby (so, they are ranging between 0% in one year to potentially more than 100% in other years). That 33% percent is just a random guess, could be anything.

I am quite disciplined, don't take extras except in rare occasions; it is actually not so easy to run up the bill too much. My annual mongering spend inclusive of what I give sugarbabes is hardly much, and small enough to be hidden w / o being noticed.

If you park yourself in Frankfurt and attended a club 6 days a week, 52 weeks a year (assume you need a day of sabbath like god did), and assume you purchase cheap entry tickets in bulk because you attend daily and assume you take 3 hourly sessions with no extras every day, your spend may come to 52*6*350 = 109 K (assuming 50 for entry ticket). If you saved up 2 million and park it in a 5% yielding security, you can do this for the rest of your life and not touch the principal. Conversely, for a dude with disposable spending of 500 K annually, that is only 21%, even with this absurd example. (and BTW, any dude who is spending nearly all his waking time in clubs like that has no need for any other disposable income; he might as well rent a bunk bed next to a WG inside the club and just live there).