Has anyone on here asked to make sex videos with any of the ladies, with model releases, etc? If so, how did that go?
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Has anyone on here asked to make sex videos with any of the ladies, with model releases, etc? If so, how did that go?
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3016586]If you have had BBFS with "girls" at Wonder Massage then your experience with the umbrella and especially the recent call to another shop to find a suitable girl for you could not possibly reflect what happens to a "random stranger" there, right?
[/QUOTE]I was a random enough stranger that the "manager" did not remember me, and asked me if I had ever been there before.
When I was offered the poncho was my first time in the shop I think, and I thought it an unusually service minded gesture at the time. I think I've only sessioned two more times after that, max three, All with different girls, and in the span of a year or more, so I'm not surprised they did not remember me.
Random stranger is an apt description I think.
19 year old MILF from a Soi Cowboy top tier go go bar. Farm fresh. Bailed her out at about 10 or 11 pm. She left after breakfast in the morning about 10 am Short negotiation in her bar. How much? She replied "up to you". She accepted 500 baht offer enthusiastically. Blow job that night. I woke up in the morning with her mouth caressing my dick. "Junior" was at full attention. "You want to fuck"? She asked. Before I could answer, she was already mounting up.
[QUOTE=RyoSaeba;3016678]One of us guys used to be in an intimate relationship with one of the ladies, while the other two are familiar but not intimate, although that could change either before the trip or during it.
My friend and I are straight, and to my knowledge the ladies are straight too, but quite possibly a little bi-curious.
So, I know these two ladies well enough to go on holiday with them, drink in excess and be merry, but when it comes to prostitution and the overall sex vibes that permeate Bangkok, I have no idea how they'll react.
Maybe they'll be happy to visit Soi Cowboy once, and that will be it. Or maybe they will really go wild. I guess they don't know it themselves, and we will only find out once we're on location.[/QUOTE]Whatever the line on mild to wild is, I'm taking the over LOL.
You know them, but if they are going to Bangkok with you they have to have a pretty good idea of what goes on. Just taking a wild guess, they will want to go to the gogo bars, they will probably want to buy at least one of the girls a lady drink, and they will watch you two closely to observe your reactions, hoping you behave like "healthy males" but don't cross the line. They will understand the freely available options to you, and in an instinctive effort to protect their territory they will hook up with you guys in a hormonal fury ignited by the sexual tension of the evening.
Or else they will say, "Ick, prostitutes! Let's go back to the hotel! Nah. The first one.
[QUOTE=RyoSaeba;3016678]I hope you'll consider my request worthy of the forum.
As far as giving back, you can check my posting history: after asking questions, I have never failed to post detailed reports.[/QUOTE]I think we would help regardless of your contributions and, we are all worthy here, this hobby makes us brothers!
Now to your request, I am not going to lie, it is going to be very difficult because there are a lot of moving parts here.
Massage places that are good and offer "Men" a happy ending: Rakuten soi 33.
The place is clean, and the ladies won't question that it's a massage place for sex (although the soi is filled with these places).
I am not sure though if Rakuten ladies would service women? I see women customers there all the time, but not sure if they are offered extras.
There is a foreigner girl offering tantric massage for women, she has a male colleague as well, but it's outright advertised as tantric so maybe a little too direct.
Soi 22 has places that offer ladies massage but they're brothels, maybe not the image you want to show.
I think the easiest way is to go to Soi Cowboy or Patpong (NOT NANA) and get the girls tipsy, alcohol will help them relax and maybe show their real needs / wants.
I'll send you a PM for something else.
[QUOTE=Werqweq;3016697]I was a random enough stranger that the "manager" did not remember me, and asked me if I had ever been there before.[/QUOTE]Why do folks always put it to you living somewhere or being a regular customer as the reason you are able to do certain things? This shit is nothing special and not anything that anybody else can not do. If it does not work out the same for you, then it has nothing to do with not living there or not being known there. Look for other reasons.
Sometimes everything just ain't for everybody. Like the man (Thomas Sowell) said, everybody has equality of opportunity, but not equality of outcome. Because it does not work out the same for you, does not nean he is doing something special for it to work out for him.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;3016628]The Pimp got raided and three Americans arrested.[/QUOTE]What were they arrested for?
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;3016746]What were they arrested for?[/QUOTE]Possession of Ketamine I believe.
First time visit for 5 days in June. I'm not into night life stuff like drinking, drugs, dancing, or overly loud places, etc so I didn't experience any of that. I always use tinder when traveling to try and get some free sex, have had varying success, and it's fun to chat with locals as well. However in Bangkok most people on Tinder were working girls and it ended up being a great way to meet them for my style. I'm also not comfortable walking up to street girls. Most had normal pics, had a mix of amateur and bar girls, ladyboys. Easy to ask about what I wanted and negotiate pricing. Highly recommend if picking up girls in person isn't your style. I saw 5 girls and 2 ladyboys. One girl I saw twice because she had a life changing set of big naturals that were also somehow very perky. Pretty face too. All but one agreed to let me record video, for extra fee. Most also agreed to BBFS, but I did have a recent std test to show. I told them I had it when asking for that service. I probably over paid for a few dates, but not all. And compared to at home priced in USA, it was very affordable. Oh you want $30 more to record video? I pay more than that for lunch at home, so no problem. I did go to one massage place for FS, which was great also. I had amazing time eating, shopping, tourist things during day and mongering the women at night.
[QUOTE=RyoSaeba;3016678]
- any massage parlour when the massage is real and sufficiently professional, but there's also more on offer, including for women? (I'm thinking along the lines of the salt scrub in Sazanka, for those who know / remember it).
[/QUOTE]At least Wonder massage (near Asoke BTS) have something called "couples massage". I'm not a couple, so I have not tried, but there it is. This is a sex shop, not a massage shop, but at least some of the staff ("Jacky", probably others too), have worked in regular massage shops before (or so she claimed when I asked, and I only asked because it felt professional), so they can give your female friend a good (though expensive) normal oil massage if it turns out that is all she wants.
I've seen "couples massage" elsewhere too, but the managers at Wonder are above average customer friendly, and seem to take the time to explain stuff to customers I've noted. In your case I'd probably go a day in advance by myself and talk with them about what you want (e.g., perhaps make sure they tell the girls to limit things to a handjob if your female friend is going to be in the room with you, or maybe not even that.) and see if they can accommodate, as well as to see if they have any women you think are are attractive and who are willing to play with other women, so you can pre-book.
Just your female friend and massage staff alone in the room is also possible at some shops (don't know if Wonder is one of them), but quite a bit more rare I suspect. Less staff may be willing to do that, but I know that also happens sometimes. One shop girl I asked what she would do if if some farang woman came in and chose her? "I don't know, I hope she not choose me.", though she had had several "couples" sessions.
IMO, most shops (Wonder included) have far too few attractive staff working there for you and your friends to drop-in and have a decent chance of finding 2-4 attractive women. I don't pre-book, but then I usually have to drop in on 2-5 different shops before I find even one, and sometimes I don't find anyone. Obviously you don't want to do that with your whole entourage in tow.
[QUOTE=RyoSaeba;3016678]
- which of the gogo bar areas do you think is best suited for women and couples? Any gogo in particular?
[/QUOTE]No idea, but be sure to stay away from the arab's bar if you go to soi cowboy (spice girls, rio, deja vu, midnite, venus). They're scam bars, and were so 15 years ago also. Sadly still in business.
Crazy House at the corner of Soi Cowboy (the Soi 23 exit side) has nude dancers, which is rare at the moment, and thus may be extra interesting for your friends. Most of the more experienced people here seem to recommend Nana over Soi Cowboy though.
Like the other brother here suggested, perhaps have your female friends try to catch the eye of some of them and buy them a lady drink.
[QUOTE=RyoSaeba;3016678]
As far as giving back, you can check my posting history
[/QUOTE]Only reason I bothered responding.
[QUOTE=Werqweq;3016697]I was a random enough stranger that the "manager" did not remember me, and asked me if I had ever been there before.
When I was offered the poncho was my first time in the shop I think, and I thought it an unusually service minded gesture at the time. I think I've only sessioned two more times after that, max three, All with different girls, and in the span of a year or more, so I'm not surprised they did not remember me.
Random stranger is an apt description I think.[/QUOTE]As I said, I would give Wonder Massage plus plus for the attention, time and effort the mamasan put into making sure you were ok re the weather and at least being satisfied with what you got for the money.
But I don't see that I was being "duragatory" in my characterization of the lady who was recruited from the unnamed bar as "a 30+ year old lady of moderately acceptable looks". I was instead trying to be accurate based on your description of her:
[QUOTE][b]Girl who arrived was the girl from the video, but not exactly my type (siliconed, with some baby damage in the stomach area, albeit minor, and closer to 30 than 20), but ok enough and service was ok too.[/b] While her service would not normally warrant an extra tip from me, I tipped her 1000 anyway, hoping she'd mention it when later asked, to give a decent impression of me, and also because I did not know how the whole thing would be handled paywise for her, seeing as I did not pay anything extra for the extra session with her.[/QUOTE]In fact, "moderately acceptable looks" actually sounds better to me than "ok enough". That is, if you had ever seen the ladies I was quite agreeable to having sex with in my life that could objectively be considered "ok enough". LOL.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;3016609]I posted the pricing of the place a few weeks ago, some cuties and no Condom, make sure you confirm CIM to the cashier (they all do CIM but you don't want to be disappointed).[/QUOTE]Stopped in at Secret Kiss today after being disappointed at BIWA (I will write it up later). I was there when it opened, and there were two Japanese guys in front of me who were waiting for specific girls. Thus I get first pick of what's in house. All 2 of them.
As expected, they want me to pick from the ipad. Following the expert advice of PGReal and WerqWeq, I refuse the digital selection process and the proprietor agrees to a mini line-up.
Both young, cute, fit, 7's, about 22 years old. I chose one at random and up the stairs we go.
The room is nice and clean, and in the shower is a Japanese shower chair. Don't know what it's called, but it allows access to wash the undercarriage. She has me sit on the chair and washes me down, unfortunately avoiding the use of those well-designed and eagerly-anticipated access ports.
Her top came off (without asking) and the BBBJCIM went as expected from a young girl. Not bad but nothing special. If you follow my posts you'll notice I like older women and here's why:
The older girl will just keep doing pleasurable things, and lets me cum in my own time. A younger girl spends about 5 minutes doing something pleasurable, and then decides it's time for you to cum and starts the jack-a-thon. My provider was overall not bad, but nothing I would repeat unless I was in need.
1300 baht + 150 tip.
The ipad had some real lookers, and as I was leaving there was a girl arriving that was a high 8. I am guessing that Secret Kiss is better utilized as a full service place with some serious Japanese- looking hotties, rather than a blowjob bar.
Fargler.
[QUOTE=SamSanuk;3016714]19 year old MILF from a Soi Cowboy top tier go go bar. Farm fresh. Bailed her out at about 10 or 11 pm. She left after breakfast in the morning about 10 am Short negotiation in her bar. How much? She replied "up to you". She accepted 500 baht offer enthusiastically. Blow job that night. I woke up in the morning with her mouth caressing my dick. "Junior" was at full attention. "You want to fuck"? She asked. Before I could answer, she was already mounting up.[/QUOTE]500 baht? Really? How many centuries back? Or you must be really good looking!
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3016502]Maybe I missed one that was posted. But your much appreciated report on the session or rather half a session, if that, at one of those KTVs on Thaniya Road is the first report I have read anywhere that actually described some form of skin-to-skin sexual contact with a girl in one of those places.
And, I have to say, what happened and didn't happen for you in there sounds exactly like what I always suspected would happen to me if I went along with the mamasan catcalls to "come inside, choose a girl" I get when I walk past them.
Well, actually, since you are a white / Japanese around 40 years old who speaks some Japanese while I am a white / only guy around 70 years old who speaks no Japanese I suspect I wouldn't even get the crappy 60 second, no finish "BBBJCIM" agreed to by the girl for my 2200 thb including the courtesy LD for the mamasan.
Can you share whether that was your first time in one of those Thaniya Road KTVs? If not, were previous visits more rewarding than that time? Hard to imagine they wouldn't be I suppose.
I see you prefer KTVs. Are there other KTVs in Bangkok where an expenditure of 2200 thb would actually be expected to buy you a properly finished BBBJCIM with the kind of young spinner you also prefer?
BTW, the rest of your night in the Patpong gogo bars until you eventually booked a FL on ThaiFriendly was no more rewarding than my last foray into those Patpong beerbars and gogo bars several months ago. For me those Patpong bars turned out to be a total waste of time, money and a positive, hopeful attitude.[/QUOTE]Yes, a few months ago I visited a Thaniya KTV that ended in ST. 3500 THB, 900 paybar. 800 for the room. Thaniya Inn around the corner. Before choosing my girl I asked mama who was available for ST with me, about 60-70% left the lineup.
I was offered LT on that visit for 7 k as well, until 3 am. If you're interested just stop and politely ask questions to mamasan.
[QUOTE=Werqweq;3016787]At least Wonder massage (near Asoke BTS) have something called "couples massage". I'm not a couple, so I have not tried, but there it is. This is a sex shop, not a massage shop, but at least some of the staff ("Jacky", probably others too), have worked in regular massage shops before (or so she claimed when I asked, and I only asked because it felt professional), so they can give your female friend a good (though expensive) normal oil massage if it turns out that is all she wants.
I've seen "couples massage" elsewhere too, but the managers at Wonder are above average customer friendly, and seem to take the time to explain stuff to customers I've noted. In your case I'd probably go a day in advance by myself and talk with them about what you want (e.g., perhaps make sure they tell the girls to limit things to a handjob if your female friend is going to be in the room with you, or maybe not even that.) and see if they can accommodate, as well as to see if they have any women you think are are attractive and who are willing to play with other women, so you can pre-book.
Just your female friend and massage staff alone in the room is also possible at some shops (don't know if Wonder is one of them), but quite a bit more rare I suspect. Less staff may be willing to do that, but I know that also happens sometimes. One shop girl I asked what she would do if if some farang woman came in and chose her? "I don't know, I hope she not choose me.", though she had had several "couples" sessions.
IMO, most shops (Wonder included) have far too few attractive staff working there for you and your friends to drop-in and have a decent chance of finding 2-4 attractive women. I don't pre-book, but then I usually have to drop in on 2-5 different shops before I find even one, and sometimes I don't find anyone. Obviously you don't want to do that with your whole entourage in tow.
No idea, but be sure to stay away from the arab's bar if you go to soi cowboy (spice girls, rio, deja vu, midnite, venus). They're scam bars, and were so 15 years ago also. Sadly still in business.
Crazy House at the corner of Soi Cowboy (the Soi 23 exit side) has nude dancers, which is rare at the moment, and thus may be extra interesting for your friends. Most of the more experienced people here seem to recommend Nana over Soi Cowboy though.
Like the other brother here suggested, perhaps have your female friends try to catch the eye of some of them and buy them a lady drink.
Only reason I bothered responding.[/QUOTE]Last year I toured every single bar in BKK with an US-Thai GF, because she was always curious about, but she never got the chance to get in any of them, we didn't encountered any problems at all. In some of them we stayed and had a drink, other ones just walked thru then exited, whatever she wanted, was her tour, but no problems going in as a couple. At Nana Plaza she had to show the US passport to the check point at the entry.
This year I did the same with my PH GF, but not as extensive as last year's tour, we couldn't get into Nana Plaza because she didn't have the passport on her, and we stopped shortly after we picked up a girl from a bar with nude dancers, somewhere next to Soy Cowboy on a back street.
We had couple massages many times but was in the main room with some curtains pulled over for privacy. GF didn't want to have any extras in the salons, and I didn't want it also, even when the GF insisted that I should do it, I like the privacy of my hotel room.
We had few massages in the hotel room, but was always with only one masseuse, we couldn't find 2 likeminded ones for a 4 some afterwards.