Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3016807]
But I don't see that I was being "duragatory" in my characterization of the lady who was recruited from the unnamed bar as "a 30+ year old lady of moderately acceptable looks". I was instead trying to be accurate based on your description of her:

In fact, "moderately acceptable looks" actually sounds better to me than "ok enough". That is, if you had ever seen the ladies I was quite agreeable to having sex with in my life that could objectively be considered "ok enough". LOL.[/QUOTE]Okey, I see your point about that. By closer to 30 than to 20, I meant she was in the 25-30 age bracket, rather than 20-24. Perhaps that wording is more ambiguous than I thought.

Anyway, the point I wanted to make was that she was the average type of massage parlour woman, rather than some special "last ditch effort" woman given me for this just because they ended up not charging me anything extra for her. The guy who saw they have another shop /"outlet" at Phrom Phong, and guessed the line-up shown me on the video call was from there, was probably spot on.

"ok enough" is unfortunately what I will describe most of the massage shop women I end up banging as, after skipping the 90% that are "not ok enough". Exceptions are far in between these days among the lower tier massage shops it seems, so perhaps in a week or two I will start looking at what replaced fiwfans. I see the various telegram channels I joined when fiwfans was still running seem as busy as before, but haven't bothered to look at the contents yet.

[QUOTE=Fargler;3016810]
The ipad had some real lookers, and as I was leaving there was a girl arriving that was a high 8.[/QUOTE]That's when you should have asked the manager what that girl's name was, so you could message it to me afterwards.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3016745]Why do folks always put it to you living somewhere or being a regular customer as the reason you are able to do certain things? This shit is nothing special and not anything that anybody else can not do. If it does not work out the same for you, then it has nothing to do with not living there or not being known there. Look for other reasons.
[/QUOTE]LOL. And sometimes, it not working out has everything to do with you being known there. There used to be (probably still is) a woman in one of the regular massage shops on soi 22, who I had visited for a thai massage, ending with a blowjob, probably a dozen times if not more. After the last time, last summer or winter, she told me not to choose her anymore, as she had become bored with me always keeping her head locked down on my dick when coming, to complete the CIM. "You always do that. "

At around the same time a 20 year old girl in a massage shop on the same soi, and who I had quietly banged in the shop some days before, gave me a really suspicious look when I excited the cubicle after receiving a thai massage from one of her, also quite pretty but 6-7 year older, colleagues. It was so funny I had to chuckle and give her a wink, even though I think I did not manage to bang her colleague.

Around lunch time I took a Grab over to Biwa. The online reviews describe it as a local place with "older but still OK" women, and cheaper prices. I like both of those! It's north of sukhumvit in Watthana? By the expressway. Several Japanese-language mongering websites have a review of it.

As soon as I walked in I noticed that the fishbowl viewing seats were about as far from the fishbowl as you could get. I would need binoculars if I chose from that distance. Thats not a good sign. I get a semi-long distance view of the providers, about 25 of them, mostly 40-50 years old, and it looks like a horror movie. So many of them wore expressions like they just got off the phone after an argument with their ex-husband's latest girlfriend. And the alarm bells are going off in my head. Why are all these providers wearing so much? No one is showing any skin (except the fat girls showing cleavage). Long skirts and heavy clothes, sweaters, wraps. There is a LOT of camouflage going on.

But since it was my first time I wanted to sit for a while and get the vibe, so I sat at a table and ordered some lunch and observed the proceedings. I talked to the waitress and asked what the pricing structure was. She said 1200 for the girls on the far side of the room, and 1500 for the close side of the room. Same as I'd read online. Check.

I spent about 20 minutes sitting there, staring at the completely inedible Larb Moo, watching a few girls come and go with EXTREMELY LOW RENT clientelle. These local mongers make me look like prince fucking charming. I finally decided it was time to stand up close to the girls and see if anything was fuckable. I came all this way, I already took a viagara. I could at least try.

So I paid for the meal I didn't eat. To her credit the friendly waitress asked me why I didn't eat it. I said I didn't like it, but asked her to let me pay anyway. I still wanted to try a girl, and didn't want to start out with an argument over regretable food.

I got up and stood in front of the fishbowl, searching for something fuckable, and when the wrangler approached I asked for his help with the selection process. He says "all girls 2000 baht". Of course I immediately throw it back at him. "Fuck you. You don't charge anyone else 2000. These are 1500, those are 1200". He immediately looks away and down, embarrased to be such a piece of shit, no longer able to make eye contact, mumbling something about "policy". Since I was already having trouble finding anything I would even pay 1200 for, I just walked.

In the parking lot while waiting for Grab, I asked some random ugly Japanese dude what he pays. Of course he says 1200 for the far side, 1500 for the near side.

Fargler.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3016745]Why do folks always put it to you living somewhere or being a regular customer as the reason you are able to do certain things? This shit is nothing special and not anything that anybody else can not do. If it does not work out the same for you, then it has nothing to do with not living there or not being known there. Look for other reasons.

Sometimes everything just ain't for everybody. Like the man (Thomas Sowell) said, everybody has equality of opportunity, but not equality of outcome. Because it does not work out the same for you, does not nean he is doing something special for it to work out for him.[/QUOTE]Well, Werqweq did say the manager asked him if he had been in her shop before. Which is in the section of his post that you quoted. Presumably he told her the truth and said Yes.

And I have been asked the same question in various service or product related shops for most of my life whenever the issue of the owner or manager of the place extending themselves for me or going the extra mile for me is on the table.

So there must be some added value in the minds of shop owners in a customer being considered at least a repeat customer rather than merely a "random stranger" who is just passing through.

[QUOTE=SpinnerHunter;3016448]I'm around 40, average looking. I'm white / Asian, speak some Japanese. Prefer young spinners.

Thaniya Road. 900/hour for all you can drink. 200/girl drink. 4000 ST. 5000 LT. 800 BF. Asked her if she would do BJ in the room, she said OK, 2 k. She took my $, spent about 60 seconds and then stopped like she was done. I was like WTF, finish. She said 1 k more. I said forget it, settled the bill and left.

Patpong. Kings Castle 1 & 2 4000 ST; 8000 LT was the ask. BF was around 1000.

Short Time in Hotel. She refused to do any BJ at all. Proceeded with CFS. After about 30-45 min I wasn't done but she was and she hopped in the shower.[/QUOTE]Thanks much to Khun Hunter for a solid report. Too bad the girls he pulled were duds.

[QUOTE=Fargler;3016855]Around lunch time I took a Grab over to Biwa. The online reviews describe it as a local place with "older but still OK" women, and cheaper prices. I like both of those! It's north of sukhumvit in Watthana? By the expressway. Several Japanese-language mongering websites have a review of it.

As soon as I walked in I noticed that the fishbowl viewing seats were about as far from the fishbowl as you could get. I would need binoculars if I chose from that distance. Thats not a good sign. I get a semi-long distance view of the providers, about 25 of them, mostly 40-50 years old, and it looks like a horror movie. So many of them wore expressions like they just got off the phone after an argument with their ex-husband's latest girlfriend. And the alarm bells are going off in my head. Why are all these providers wearing so much? No one is showing any skin (except the fat girls showing cleavage). Long skirts and heavy clothes, sweaters, wraps. There is a LOT of camouflage going on.

But since it was my first time I wanted to sit for a while and get the vibe, so I sat at a table and ordered some lunch and observed the proceedings. I talked to the waitress and asked what the pricing structure was. She said 1200 for the girls on the far side of the room, and 1500 for the close side of the room. Same as I'd read online. Check.

I spent about 20 minutes sitting there, staring at the completely inedible Larb Moo, watching a few girls come and go with EXTREMELY LOW RENT clientelle. These local mongers make me look like prince fucking charming. I finally decided it was time to stand up close to the girls and see if anything was fuckable. I came all this way, I already took a viagara. I could at least try.

So I paid for the meal I didn't eat. To her credit the friendly waitress asked me why I didn't eat it. I said I didn't like it, but asked her to let me pay anyway. I still wanted to try a girl, and didn't want to start out with an argument over regretable food.

I got up and stood in front of the fishbowl, searching for something fuckable, and when the wrangler approached I asked for his help with the selection process. He says "all girls 2000 baht". Of course I immediately throw it back at him. "Fuck you. You don't charge anyone else 2000. These are 1500, those are 1200". He immediately looks away and down, embarrased to be such a piece of shit, no longer able to make eye contact, mumbling something about "policy". Since I was already having trouble finding anything I would even pay 1200 for, I just walked.

In the parking lot while waiting for Grab, I asked some random ugly Japanese dude what he pays. Of course he says 1200 for the far side, 1500 for the near side.

Fargler.[/QUOTE]LOL at YOUR expense; thank you. Appreciate the time and effort it takes to post. Sometimes you do just have to walk. But IME, viagra does last, so hopefully it wasn't completely wasted. Sad BG7 just history now (says the old fart), was usually good for some afternoon relief.

[QUOTE=Bunky;3016904]Thanks much to Khun Hunter for a solid report. Too bad the girls he pulled were duds.[/QUOTE]The ole boots don't do too much humping these days, but... Christmas is coming (pun intended). Cheers.

My 3rd visit to T-Ded99, but this time I was solo. I'm mixed asian / white. Mid 40's.

Met a friendly mama-san named Meiya at the door, she walked to me a couch on the bottom floor. The place was very busy on this Friday night at 10 pm. I saw a few middle aged white guys there enjoying themselves amongst a mostly Thai / Chinese crowed. I asked about the rooms upstairs, Meiya seemed surprised I knew about them, or perhaps that a solo guy wanted a room, but she said 200 thb / HR. I agreed and up we went. This upper floor opened about 2 months ago. There are around 40-50 rooms, massive on scale, including a huge room that can fit 30+ people easily. There are more older rooms downstairs as well.

I tip mama 500 aiming for good service. I tell her what I'm looking for and she brings in a lineup of about 12 girls (out of 200 there that night). I choose one and get started.

Bottle of JW Black is 2100. Mixers are 50, food is around 200 a plate. Order all of that and get started. Girls are 200 an hour to sit with you.

After chatting a bit, this girl tells me she is on her period which I now understand to be Thai code for "I'm not interested in banging you". So I sender of off with a small tip and ask for another lineup. Only 2 girls this time, I take them both since they are so cheap. Drink and play for a while, an offer for a 3-some was suggested, but they won't do anything with themselves, won't use sex toys. Seemed a little boring so I swapped them out. Got another two, but wasn't feeling them either, so onto round 4. I choose one more. She is fun, but I'm thinking I can find better out of 200 girls. I see her messaging her friend who looks hot, I tell her to bring her over. A few minutes later the friend shows up, she is fun and looks great.

Tab including drinks, food, room fee and girls sitting fee is 7200 for about 6 hours. Tipped out about 4 k to mama, the girls, and the waitress (who did a great job taking care of me and the room, even drinking with us, and I assume telling all the new girls good things about me).

Took the final girl across the street for 2500ST, no room fee.

A very fun night. A bit expensive for solo but would have been much cheaper if I had some other people to split the tab with. Not bad in my book for 6+ hours of fun.

My 3rd visit to T-Ded99, but this time I was solo. I'm mixed asian / white. Mid 40's.

Met a friendly mama-san named Meiya at the door, she walked to me a couch on the bottom floor. The place was very busy on this Friday night at 10 pm. I saw a few middle aged white guys there enjoying themselves amongst a mostly Thai / Chinese crowed. I asked about the rooms upstairs, Meiya seemed surprised I knew about them, or perhaps that a solo guy wanted a room, but she said 200 thb / HR. I agreed and up we went. This upper floor opened about 2 months ago. There are around 40-50 rooms, massive on scale, including a huge room that can fit 30+ people easily. There are more older rooms downstairs as well.

I tip mama 500 aiming for good service. I tell her what I'm looking for and she brings in a lineup of about 12 girls (out of 200 there that night). I choose one and get started.

Bottle of JW Black is 2100. Mixers are 50, food is around 200 a plate. Order all of that and get started. Girls are 200 an hour to sit with you. No LD. They just drink your bottle and eat your food.

After chatting a bit, this girl tells me she is on her period which I now understand to be Thai code for "I'm not interested in banging you". So I sender of off with a small tip and ask for another lineup. Only 2 girls this time, I take them both since they are so cheap. Drink and play for a while, an offer for a 3-some was suggested, but they won't do anything with themselves, won't use sex toys. Seemed a little boring so I swapped them out. Got another two, but wasn't feeling them either, so onto round 4. I choose one more. She is fun, but I'm thinking I can find better out of 200 girls. I see her messaging her friend who looks hot, I tell her to bring her over. A few minutes later the friend shows up, she is fun and looks great.

Tab including drinks, food, room fee and girls sitting fee is 7200 for about 6 hours. Tipped out about 4 k to mama, the girls, and the waitress (who did a great job taking care of me and the room, even drinking with us, and I assume telling all the new girls good things about me).

Took the final girl across the street for 2500ST, no room fee.

A very fun night. A bit expensive for solo but would have been much cheaper if I had some other people to split the tab with. Not bad in my book for 6+ hours of fun.

Absolutely agree. Service quality over Looks.

-JizzyB.

[QUOTE=Llantarnam;3016695]They're not lookers, but they know how to get the job done.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Werqweq;3016849]That's when you should have asked the manager what that girl's name was, so you could message it to me afterwards.[/QUOTE]A total amateur move on my part! What kind of dickhead would let the best looking girl in the shop get by him without even asking a name? Thanks again for the lesson, Jedi Werq.

[QUOTE=11Bravo;3016923]LOL at YOUR expense; thank you. Appreciate the time and effort it takes to post. Sometimes you do just have to walk. But IME, viagra does last, so hopefully it wasn't completely wasted. [/QUOTE]Thanks for laughing with me, 11 Bush! I really feel I've gotten way more OUT of this sub than I have contributed, and look for opportunities to provide value into it. I suppose a bad report also provides value, its just not as fun as a good report.

Fargler.

Day 1: Arrived at the airport at 6 pm. Went outside at 8 pm to Sukhumvit 11. Saw some pretty freelancers, talked to some who wanted between 2 k-3 k. Thought the night was still young and moved to cube massage parlor. Found a cute spinner around 20 why, booked a 90 m session with 2 shots and went upstairs. There showered together and after went to the bed. Started with BBBJ, but the rubber on and she went on top. Changed to doggy and finished 1 shot. Reset a while on bed with cuddling and the she started with HJ for round 2. Followed by BJ and layed down for missionary. Couln't stayed hard enough during missionary (probably because of the long flight) and let her finish 2 shot with HJ. Still a good experience.

Went to soi cowboy after, but nothing that really attracted me. Next to soi cowboy was soi sukhumvit 24 with some massage parlors. Found another cutie there and agreed 1 shot for 1700.

Massage was okay, did not want to do BBBJ. Accepted CBJ and the fucked her missionary. She had pretty face, enjoyed that postition and finished after a while.

After that went to my hotel to sleep.

Day 2: Went to 7 heaven BJ bar. Picked a slim girl, 27 why old. She washed my dick first and started BBBJ. Decent skills after a while blow my load in her mouth.

After lunch looked on TF. Found a pretty girl 22 why for 3 k ST. Arrived in my hotel. Picture were real. BBBJ with and fucked her in various positions. 2 shots fired and sent her home.

Took a long nap after that. At night I went to soi sukhumvit 11 again, picked a freelancer for 2 k ST. Took her back to my hotel. BBBJ and fucked with rubber. Was okay.

Next days I will stay in Makati Philippines. Report is following.

[QUOTE=Fargler;3016571]I have no experience with Wonder. Just came here to say: If you goto Wonder Massage website, and click on the Outlet tab, they show Deep in Phrom Phong as a new outlet. This MAY be where the new girl came from, but pure speculation on my part.

Hope this helps.

Fargler.[/QUOTE]That looks to be the same building as the old Thonglor 2 massage. That was the best place to get a reliably good massage from a pretty lady and FS. These says it's hard to find both of those things from the same place.

Early afternoon I stopped by Butterfly massage. Brother AR here had mentioned a girl on their website he thought particularly cute, but had not sessioned with, and I also thought she looked kind of cute (not as cute as he seemed to think, as I saw other girls on their site that to my taste looked better, but still rather cute).
I told him I might ask for her next time I'm around that area, though I didn't plan to make a booking, but rather ask for a lineup, though make sure to also have a look at her so I could at least report back if she was as cute as in her photos or not.

Looking at their website, I'll say they seem to have a considerably above average amount of pretty girls, so I imagined it would not be a problem finding a cute girl there even if this girl was not there. Alas, in the lineup presented me I could not see anyone I'd like to bang. I excused myself with my standard "maybe I come back later", which is the most polite thing I've managed to come up with, but before leaving I showed them the photo of the girl AR had mentioned. "Not working today. " Ah, when working? "Don't know. Long holiday". I.e. , she's quit, but I guess like many of the other cute girls on their webpage, they haven't removed her pic.

Entered the shop next door, Aurora massage. After presenting my list of "no baby, no silicone, no fat", there were two candidates left. I'm thinking maybe I will have to drop the "no baby" thing, as I'm frequently left with only 2-3 girls to choose from.

Fortunately, one of them was a rather pretty girl I'd estimate to be around 20. Unfortunately I forgot her name almost instantly, and thought I'd just look it up on their webpage for this report, but I can't see her there.

Anyway, I caught her eye (not overly hard, seeing I was the only customer and she was standing two meters in front of me), trying to gauge by eye contact how disgusting, on a scale from 1-10, she thought I looked. After 10-15 seconds of that, told the manager I'd like to session with her. Paid up and the manager gave me a token with her number, telling me when the session was finished, I should drop the token in one of the three rating boxes they had, rating her performance as bad, good, or very good.

Up to the room we went, where she gave me a good wash, including my ass, so I thought she would be rimming, but no. After her own shower, she had me flip over on my stomach and she applied some type of warm oil on my back and started to massage me first with her hands, then with her naked body. This girl had some of the fairest skin I've ever seen on a Thai girl, and looking at her in mirror next to the bed while on my stomach, I thought she was also rather beautiful, with her dyed blonde hair and slim body. I'd rate her as an 8, which is as high as I've ever rated a p4p girl I think. She also had a small bush, rather than the clean shaven look most have, for a nice variation from the usual.

After giving me that body2body massage on my back, she repeated the same on the front, before proceeding to give me a decent blowjob and ball licking. While I gently tried to push her further down, I didn't force it either, so no rimming. After some minutes of that, I pulled her on top of me to fondle her boobs and grind my dick against her pussy. After a while of that, it was covered sex (at least for me, no other option was made available with this girl, though as we all know, ymmv) in a few positions, before I removed the raincoat, reverted back to BJ, and finished in her mouth.

On the way out I dropped the token in the appropriate box, which was the middle box as far as I was concerned. Neither bad, nor very good. Had she not started to pull away as I was starting to CIM, I'd have to rate her service as very good.
IMO, while the idea with these boxes is good, the implementation is a bit lacking since you're dropping the token in the box in front of the girl. I dropped the token in the box I felt was appropriate, but I suspect many will drop it in the "very good" box just because the girl is standing there with you, looking at what box you will drop the token in. I could hear the manager woman make some "ah, hmm" sound when I dropped the token in the middle box rather than the "very good, two thumbs up" box.

I then continued to gym, dinner, regular thai massage, and then on the way back to my place I stopped by Thermae. My first visit was last winter, where I offered 2500 for st to the girl I thought most attractive after walking the round a couple of times, and out we went, doing the 15 minute walk to my then airbnb.

So this was my second visit, and I felt like a true pro now. Arrived around 11 pm, did a couple rounds. Again, did not feel any of the "farang racism" some people say exist here, but maybe I'm simply to obtuse. On the third round, I approached the girl I thought was was most attractive. A 19-20 year old (I guess) girl in the type of baggy unassuming hip-hop-style clothes you lounge around in at home on a sunday afternoon, and which only the very young and cute can look good in. She was placed on the exact opposite side of the entrance. If I remember correctly, comrade Nyezhov said around this area is where the new-ish/non-veteran girls place themselves.

W: Hello, how are you, want to go short-time? G: "short-time is 5000". W: "Cannot. 2500, you want?" G: "No. " Oh well. Continued the round a little bit further, and scouted out another attractive girl. Around 22-23 I guess, and better dressed. Same deal, except her st-price was 4,000. I declined that too. Saw a couple other "ok-ish" girls, including some who obviously wanted me (and everyone else I guess) to approach them, but having already banged a girl at Aurora massage 6-7 hours earlier, I didn't bother with these "ok-ish" girls, and instead continued my solo walk back to my airbnb.

While on the way I messaged some TF 'ho I had been chatting with now and then for a week, without managing to schedule her over, asking if she wanted to come now for the agreed 1500. She did, but sadly, the selfie she in the end sent me after she had arrived here showed a woman at least 10 years older than the photos she had sent me previously, so I told her as such. Unlike some others, she said sorry, rather than starting to curse me for not coming down to meet her. Rather than banging her I have thus ended up writing this garbled nonsense.

My previous, and first, Thermae report was apparently "reported" by some wanker here, and subsequently deleted by the moderator with neither warning nor trace, so I'm curious if this one will fare any better.

[QUOTE=SpinnerHunter;3016947]My 3rd visit to T-Ded99, but this time I was solo. I'm mixed asian / white. Mid 40's.

Met a friendly mama-san named Meiya at the door, she walked to me a couch on the bottom floor. The place was very busy on this Friday night at 10 pm. I saw a few middle aged white guys there enjoying themselves amongst a mostly Thai / Chinese crowed. I asked about the rooms upstairs, Meiya seemed surprised I knew about them, or perhaps that a solo guy wanted a room, but she said 200 thb / HR. I agreed and up we went. This upper floor opened about 2 months ago. There are around 40-50 rooms, massive on scale, including a huge room that can fit 30+ people easily. There are more older rooms downstairs as well.[/QUOTE]Thanks for taking time to prepare and post this report. It has been years since I've been to Saphan Kwai, but I'm putting this joint on my "to do" list for next trip. Most report good times there. And one YouTube video documents same. .

Sam.