Makati

[QUOTE=Turgid;2252737]I don't see the possibility of being robbed. At worst it was that each would have less work to do, the work of one being shared by two. At best it was that the second girl was just horny and wanted you to bang her but being shy as most Pinays are did not want to come out and say so. Guess you'd never know![/QUOTE]Yes. You never know how such things will turn out in the room.

[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2252636]I agree with all of the comments on freebies being a whole different game. I am north of 60, far north. I have a bunch of girls who are so called freebies but actually there is no such thing. Girls who don't want money for sex require me to work much harder, chatting, first visits with a meal, pressure to meet family, paying for travel, etc, and they still expect you to drop some pesos in their purse for of course the family. There is also an emotional trap with them thinking he loves me, difficult to break from without alligator tears. They do not want to even get a hint that you are seeing anyone else. Personally I enjoy the added challange of manuvering in and around all of this. I have girls from 25 to 50 in my stable and I have to admit the older ones are the most fun in bed and the least trouble on an ongoing basis. FT.[/QUOTE]In my early 60's as well. Haven't had any trouble with the 30 somethings traveling with me, but paying for airfare, dinner, etc. I am OK with that. I have posed questions on this forum before about the older 40 or 50 + women, usually stupid comments are posted. Glad to know the 50+ are eager, which is a theory I had. The last trip, I didn't have much time to negotiate the dating sites as I had to shorten the trip. I would like to see more post about the experienced ladies, but I plan on doing my own research on the next trip.

[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2252636]......... Personally I enjoy the added challange of manuvering in and around all of this. I have girls from 25 to 50 in my stable and I have to admit the older ones are the most fun in bed and the least trouble on an ongoing basis. FT.[/QUOTE]Perfectly said. The more younger the more nagger and higher level of expectation. More elder more easier to handle with more fun. One risk point you did not mentioned here about so called freebies. That I am experienced before and made good damage of mine to escape out. Mostly happening with younger girls with me. Taking duel pictures and posting in facebook. Or instragrams or in other social sites. They do these showing to their friends and family with pride that she have a foreigner BF. More over ensuring and booking the man permanently for longer time. Now I m learned and experienced how to avoid such kind of risk.

Happy Hundting.

May be one of the girls is [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902][CodeWord902][/url] and as such, she does not have an ID. So, she will try to be accompanied by a girl who is over 18 years old and has an ID.

I have met with such situations a couple of times. Once, I met a girl in Robinsons Mall and she wanted to be accompanied by her 'sister'. I declined. When I met her again, I asked whether she had an ID, she told me she had already applied for and would get it after one week. I understood that she is still [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902][CodeWord902][/url] and trying her luck to hook with someone. I told her that I could only take her when she has proper ID and I left.

[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2252723] As we were walking, another girl crept up behind us and said she was the sister of the massage girl and she would join in the massage. The second girl said "no problem sir, we will share the money" [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Manfield04;2252974]May be one of the girls does not have an ID. So, she will try to be accompanied by a girl who is over 18 years old and has an ID.[/QUOTE]I think you nailed it. Lucky escape.

[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2252723]By this time, I was on high alert and called the whole thing off. They then pleaded with me to at least take one of them. I flatly refused and told them both to **** off. Was this a trick to rob me in the room?[/QUOTE]I hope all newbies visiting the Philippines take note of this. Don't let the little head influence your decision making.

A couple of years back I reported on a DIA girl who traveled from Olongapo to AC to meet me. I met her near Margarita Station and discovered she was accompanied by her "cousin" who looked a bit too young for comfort. I walked away in 5 minutes after giving her money equivalent to their to and fro bus trip to AC + a bit more for some food and their troubles.

Best decision I made I think.

[QUOTE=Manfield04;2252974]May be one of the girls is 902 and as such, she does not have an ID. So, she will try to be accompanied by a girl who is over 18 years old and has an ID.

I have met with such situations a couple of times. Once, I met a girl in Robinsons Mall and she wanted to be accompanied by her 'sister'. I declined. When I met her again, I asked whether she had an ID, she told me she had already applied for and would get it after one week. I understood that she is still ...and trying her luck to hook with someone. I told her that I could only take her when she has proper ID and I left.[/QUOTE]What is this ID issue? Are we supposed to check the girls ID / Age etc.

And what the heck is this CodeWord902 - some prohibited word?

[QUOTE=MuaTur;2252902]Perfectly said. The more younger the more nagger and higher level of expectation. More elder more easier to handle with more fun. One risk point you did not mentioned here about so called freebies. That I am experienced before and made good damage of mine to escape out. Mostly happening with younger girls with me. Taking duel pictures and posting in facebook. Or instragrams or in other social sites. They do these showing to their friends and family with pride that she have a foreigner BF. More over ensuring and booking the man permanently for longer time. Now I m learned and experienced how to avoid such kind of risk.

Happy Hundting.[/QUOTE]I personally prefer late 20's / early 30's. For the same reasons, including my own age / abilities. But I am definitely not into 50s (at least not yet)- you probably could not pay me enough.

What are the good bars for FLs (Free Lancers), so not 'bar fine' (BF) kinds of joints. Nothing wrong with BFs, its just another commercial model.

Thanks for the life lessons. Simply had some questions but seemed to have misunderstood. I am not a college kid whose goal is to get laid with minimum cash. I understand and am more than happy to spend more for a "dating" scenario. I am looking for freebies because I have done both p4 p and freebie long enough to know they offer very different experiences and I for one happened to love and choose the latter. Happy hunting. And for those reading and interested in freebies I seem to be getting great results already with tinder and okc prior to my trip so there may not even be a need for special to PH dating sites. Cheers.

--S.

It is not advisable to have sex with a girl who is not 18 years old, the age at which she will have an ID. If you wish to take a girl who is below eighteen years old, then be prepared to bear the consequences.

[QUOTE=SBTiger;2253219] What is this ID issue? Are we supposed to check the girls ID / Age etc.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Manfield04;2253240]It is not advisable to have sex with a girl who is not 18 years old, the age at which she will have an ID. If you wish to take a girl who is below eighteen years old, then be prepared to bear the consequences.[/QUOTE]I do understand the issues/problems with Und/age sex etc. Not sure what the exact laws in Philippines are.

My question was exactly who is responsible for what.

Are we supposed to check ID in case of doubt? Or simply avoid in case of doubt or without ID?

[QUOTE=Smdrr;2253236]Thanks for the life lessons. Simply had some questions but seemed to have misunderstood. I am not a college kid whose goal is to get laid with minimum cash. I understand and am more than happy to spend more for a "dating" scenario. I am looking for freebies because I have done both p4 p and freebie long enough to know they offer very different experiences and I for one happened to love and choose the latter. Happy hunting. And for those reading and interested in freebies I seem to be getting great results already with tinder and okc prior to my trip so there may not even be a need for special to PH dating sites. Cheers.

--S.[/QUOTE]Even though I agree with your intent. But freebies are not "exactly Free", they require lot more Time and Effort, and last but not the least Luck.
Your looks / age etc matter. But time / effort / luck matter a lot more. (IMHO).

So if You have the Time, someone may have the Inclination.

Good Luck,

[QUOTE=SBTiger;2253222]What are the good bars for FLs (Free Lancers), so not 'bar fine' (BF) kinds of joints. Nothing wrong with BFs, its just another commercial model.[/QUOTE]As this is the Makati thread, the closest place for FL would be an indoor-outdoor resto / bar in Greenbelt (Ayala) Mall #3 called Havana Cafe. Do a search for it in this thread.

[QUOTE=Manfield04;2253240]It is not advisable to have sex with a girl who is not 18 years old, the age at which she will have an ID. [/QUOTE]This has been written about before. Man your thought about 'the age at which she will have an eye dee' is a bit off the mark. Whereas most American teens get a driver's license around age 16 or 17, most pinoy don't have an eye dee. Many of the eye dees out there that girls do have are not valid; the girl has purchased a fake eye dee for a few hundred pesos. The girl could easily be below 18 and have a fake eye dee showing her to be 22. Its often easier to purchase a fake eye dee (its ready in 10 minutes) than a real eye dee (could take a month, and in addition before getting it the girl must show other previously-obtained eye dees like a cedula).

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2253329]As this is the Makati thread, the closest place for FL would be an indoor-outdoor resto / bar in Greenbelt (Ayala) Mall #3 called Havana Cafe. Do a search for it in this thread.

This has been written about before. Man your thought about 'the age at which she will have an eye dee' is a bit off the mark. Whereas most American teens get a driver's license around age 16 or 17, most pinoy don't have an eye dee. Many of the eye dees out there that girls do have are not valid; the girl has purchased a fake eye dee for a few hundred pesos. The girl could easily be below 18 and have a fake eye dee showing her to be 22. Its often easier to purchase a fake eye dee (its ready in 10 minutes) than a real eye dee (could take a month, and in addition before getting it the girl must show other previously-obtained eye dees like a cedula).[/QUOTE]Per US Laws, if the girl has Fake ID- the guy is still responsible if actually und / age. So how does it work in Phillip?

[QUOTE=SBTiger;2253618]Per US Laws, if the girl has Fake ID- the guy is still responsible if actually und / age. So how does it work in Phillip?[/QUOTE]PPP is the rule. Philippines Peso Power generally is the way to resolution. No need to debate about the legality of anything. Resolution at the lowest level is the goal.