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[QUOTE=Danubius;2307645]So what would be those "better options" in your view?[/QUOTE]I would stay at either the Marriott (right across the street from Habano's or Hyatt. Both are nicer than Eurostars, and Eurostars makes you feel like you're being surveilled constantly.
[QUOTE=ThadMax;2307567]Trip report: decided to purposely layover for 2 days in Panama on my way.
That said, I found Panama City to be depressing, overpriced, and not a place I want to spend time in. <snip> [/QUOTE]I agree with the "overpriced" part. Reading the reports, I was amazed at the prices mongers were willing to pay.
We know why the prices are high. Panama uses USD as its currency i.e. you lose the advantage of converting USD into the local currency.
However, please elaborate why you found it "depressing"? Was it the heat / humidity or something else?
Thanks,
~BKKguru.
Hello fellow mongers,
I'm a senior member on the USA Sight but starting from scratch here.
I travel to Panama City quite a bit on business. Last time I stayed at the JW Marriott (former Trump hotel). Wanted to let folks know that they had no fees or issues with bringing girls in and the Ocean Sun casino next door is filled with incredible girls. However, you have to pay the price for both -- not a place for penny pinchers. Rooms are round $135 and girls are $2-$3 which is expensive relative to Panama. However, you do get what you pay for.
Heading back on Sunday for 4 days and staying at the Bristol. First time there but it seems to be a nice place and convenient to casinos, night clubs and Habana's Cafe. Any experiences in that area would be appreciated and I'll definitely provide a full report upon my return.
[QUOTE=Trifecta68;2306077]Friend- as a long time Panama City visitor, I can appreciate your wanting to keep your anonymity. I do as well. You can enjoy the quality of Chicas roaming the area close to Habanos very easily without stepping foot inside. But first be warned. Massage parlors in Panama are a mechanical grind. Taxi drivers and other may stear you in that direction but I do NOT suggest it. The girls although somewhat attractive are mindful of time, tips and a very cold dead fish experience. In my opinion your money is being thrown away. How do you score beautiful drop dead honeys from all over So America? Here's how. Across the stree from Marriot which is around the corner from Habanos there is a restaurant in which most of the girls from Habanos pass on their way to work. This restaurant is also next to the Sex Motel (very clean, quiet and cheap) which has hourly rates. All the girls know (closest to Habanos) the establishment. You can sit on the patio of this restaurant and do cocktails and enjoy good food for very low prices. The chicas will stop and mingle if you offer them something. I took a group of guys from Australia there and used this place as a back up option from Habanos. We flagged over half a dozen beauties from Venezuela, Colombia, Peru and DR. It's off the beaten path and you can send your favorite honey over to the hotel. She'll wait for you. You can then slip in and out with nobody seeing your movements. A great alternative to massage joints. The fun of Panama is negotiating with the women. Believe me you'll see some of the best looking women on this planet in or near Habanos. Another great option is the small cigar lounge adjacent to Habanos.[/QUOTE]Heading back to Panama City on Sunday and will be staying at the Bristol. I was planning on checking out Habanos but your restaurant advice is excellent. I'll report back. Thanks again.
Can anyone give me the average going rate for Habanos or similar quality? Per my previous post, I shelled out between $2 and $3 for Ocean Sun casino friends but (a) I'm not super price sensitive; and (b) they were the most amazing I've ever seen. Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=Mitch1965;2307920]Can anyone give me the average going rate for Habanos or similar quality? Per my previous post, I shelled out between $2 and $3 for Ocean Sun casino friends but (a) I'm not super price sensitive; and (b) they were the most amazing I've ever seen. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]You will pay between 100-150 USD for most of the girls, depending on your negotiating skills, day of the week and time of the night. Add at least a 100 more for TLD. Also discuss the services provided / expected in advance! Some of them might only be offered as an upsell. It's all in the forum, you just have to read back bit!
Can you please write a more detailed report on the Ocean Sun Casino and the JW Marriott? Also please report back on the Hotel Bristol!
[QUOTE=Danubius;2308311]You will pay between 100-150 USD for most of the girls, depending on your negotiating skills, day of the week and time of the night. Add at least a 100 more for TLD. Also discuss the services provided / expected in advance! Some of them might only be offered as an upsell. It's all in the forum, you just have to read back bit!
Can you please write a more detailed report on the Ocean Sun Casino and the JW Marriott? Also please report back on the Hotel Bristol![/QUOTE]JW Marriott (formerly a Trump property) -- A bit pricey but the rooms are very nice and good amenities (rooftop pool / bar, nice outdoor restaurant called La Vespa, decent gym, some shops). The staff speaks more English than other hotels that I've visited which is good for me (still learning). The location is not ideal for walking to the most touted places (E. G. Habanos, Old Town, etc) but I found everything I needed there. I brought 2 chicas back to my room (one each night) and was never hassled by the staff nor asked to pay a fee. However, it was also late (midnight-ish) both times and there were not a lot of staff folks out and about. The elevators (like most nice places) require a room key to access the rooms so you will need to either bring your chica with you or giver her a key in advance.
Ocean Sun Casino -- The casino is attached to the Marriott. It is relatively small but clean and the staff is responsive in bringing drinks to tables. If you've been to the casino attached to the Marriott near Habanos -- this one is heads above that shit hole. Only a few tables for BJ, Poker, Roulette. However, all of that mattered very little to me in that it is filled with chicas after about 8 pm and the selection rivals Habanos. The price I paid was between 200 -300 but keep a couple things in mind: (a) my Spanish sucks so I'm horrible at negotiating; (b) my selections were top notch creatures (solid 9's); and (c) I'm not a price sensitive guy. I'm quite sure that someone could negotiate better pricing given the aforementioned qualifiers.
Hope this is helpful.
[QUOTE=Danubius;2308311]You will pay between 100-150 USD for most of the girls, depending on your negotiating skills, day of the week and time of the night. Add at least a 100 more for TLD. Also discuss the services provided / expected in advance! Some of them might only be offered as an upsell. It's all in the forum, you just have to read back bit!
Can you please write a more detailed report on the Ocean Sun Casino and the JW Marriott? Also please report back on the Hotel Bristol![/QUOTE]I've only been here one night and thinking of checking out. Quite pricey in that it's a very old building with musty rooms, small bar and outdated amenities. Clean and well done but musty and old feeling. The advantages are that they did not ask me for a guest charge and, in fact, were very polite to my "guest" last night. It's also only 400' or so from Habanos and other hangouts. Brought back a friend from Habanos for 150 and it was an excellent buy in retrospect. I'll update the forum a bit more once I return to the states.
[QUOTE=Mitch1965;2309014]I've only been here one night and thinking of checking out. Quite pricey in that it's a very old building with musty rooms, small bar and outdated amenities. Clean and well done but musty and old feeling. The advantages are that they did not ask me for a guest charge and, in fact, were very polite to my "guest" last night. It's also only 400' or so from Habanos and other hangouts. Brought back a friend from Habanos for 150 and it was an excellent buy in retrospect. I'll update the forum a bit more once I return to the states.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report.
Sorry to hear about your experience at Bristol hotel but surprised they did not charge any guest fees since they are listed as five star hotel.
Maybe you can check out W hotel or AC Marriott since they are new and near by.
Not 100% sure if they charge guest fees though.
And, thank you for letting us know about some action over at old trump hotel.
As always, be safe and have fun!
[QUOTE=Mitch1965;2309014]I've only been here one night and thinking of checking out. Quite pricey in that it's a very old building with musty rooms, small bar and outdated amenities. Clean and well done but musty and old feeling. The advantages are that they did not ask me for a guest charge and, in fact, were very polite to my "guest" last night. It's also only 400' or so from Habanos and other hangouts. Brought back a friend from Habanos for 150 and it was an excellent buy in retrospect. I'll update the forum a bit more once I return to the states.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report, keep them coming!
[QUOTE=OldBelly69;2309110]Thanks for the report.
Sorry to hear about your experience at Bristol hotel but surprised they did not charge any guest fees since they are listed as five star hotel.
Maybe you can check out W hotel or AC Marriott since they are new and near by.
Not 100% sure if they charge guest fees though.
And, thank you for letting us know about some action over at old trump hotel.
As always, be safe and have fun![/QUOTE]They really cannot charge you a fee because you can simply bring your girl through the attached restaurant and directly into the hotel. Two chicas so far and no fee or questions. I checked out the W. Nice and new but very sterile and designed for business travelers. I would be surprised if they didn't charge a fee as they have a strong presence on the first floor and the lobby is upstairs where you access the room elevators so there are actually two check points. Although the Bristol is old and stale, at least it's inviting and has easy access. For those mongers who have not experienced Habanos, you need to. The hype is real.
OK, my luck ran out. Got dinged with a guest fee last night. Rolled in some time after midnight with some arm candy. Restaurant entrance was closed so forced to use the lobby. Not sure of the amount just got a call telling me I was going to get charged.
Casino side note for the monger gamblers like myself: I've hit most of them but the Sortis is by far the best. Large casino (relatively speaking), drinks flowed for free and quickly. Not likely a chica market but I happened to get lucky with a local.
[QUOTE=Mfins;2307338]Hobbiest don't worry about what JL said. Do your thing. Maybe it works maybe it doesn't. What do you have to lose. Not everything is so black and white. Especially in Panama. Maybe they feel like charging you and maybe they don't. Who knows but might as well try. A lot depends on your attitude, who is working the desk, etc. Whats the worst that can happen? They charge you which is what you expect anyway. Countless numbers of times in Panama (even at the Hyatt) I have not been charged a fee just by either joking around with the front desk clerk at check in, having a positive attitude, walking in with confidence and not being nervous, buying the desk clerk a beer or lunch / dinner at some point. Sometimes its more then just "policy".
I would however caution against giving some stranger a key to your room. Also, giving her a key and trusting she is going to meet you at the room five minutes later. There is a good chance she will be too nervous and, not want to get in trouble or not show up. My advice do, what I said above and walk in with her like normal, eyes forward toward the elevator and act like she belongs there.[/QUOTE]Only a lunatic gives a total stranger the key to their hotel room.
No doubt the front desk occasionally doesn't charge the fee, but they'll charge it 100% of the time in an obvious scam attempt such as this one. They've seen all of these girls a dozen times before.
[QUOTE=JLMiami;2310034]Only a lunatic gives a total stranger the key to their hotel room.
No doubt the front desk occasionally doesn't charge the fee, but they'll charge it 100% of the time in an obvious scam attempt such as this one. They've seen all of these girls a dozen times before.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your insights JL. I will keep you posted.
I was in PTY for a long weekend in the second half of March. Went to Habanos on a Thursday, Friday and Saturday night and there were 75+ girls each night and the level of talent was very, very high; at this point I'd say the highest in the entire western hemisphere at the moment, with the possible exception of Scandallo in Sao Paulo (which is roughly double the price). I stayed at the Doubletree Hilton located about three blocks from Habanos; I had two rooms and there were multiple girls in and out all three nights and no guest fees were charged (I am a Hilton Honors Diamond member, so that may be the reason). Logistics getting into and out of PTY, hotels, restaurants, Uber etc could not have been easier and I highly recommend the city for a short trip mongering destination.