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[QUOTE=Zcorps]In my opinion, backtobasics did nothing wrong here. He asked twice, then moved on.[/QUOTE]He didn't ask.

[QUOTE=Japanguy]...whatever...[/QUOTE]Dude, you need to shut the pie hole. Reaching for a condom and confirming whether FS is allowed are totally in bounds. You are out of bounds claiming this kind of behavior causes problems. It does not. Someone with 10 posts should not be lecturing folks about how things are done, especially with that tone and while being so damned wrong.F'ing relax.ES

[QUOTE=Evan Stoner]Dude, you need to shut the pie hole. Reaching for a condom and confirming whether FS is allowed are totally in bounds. You are out of bounds claiming this kind of behavior causes problems. It does not. Someone with 10 posts should not be lecturing folks about how things are done, especially with that tone and while being so damned wrong.F'ing relax.ES[/QUOTE]No need to have all these posts criticizing each other.I have reached for the condom with almost every DH girl. Some look surprised and say no, some say OK, some say OK for a fee. None have ever been upset.It is possible they think you want to shoot into the condom on a BJ, so honban does need to be clarified.And AF "may" be a codeword for FS. Then again it might mean AF. But most girls who offer AF aren't so picky if you want FS, so at the end of the day you'll probably have access to both doors if you pay the extra 5-10,000.

I agree with Lion - let's put an end to all this bickering. The event itself was all over in a second, and no harm was done at all. I even walked away with a (swiftly) hand-made birthday card from her.More to the point, given that the original 'AF' 'option' has been removed from the girls' profiles, it might be (just) possible that they are now frowning upon AF, FS, or whatever.

i have been going to grimpeur since they first started excepted foreigners. i speak japanese fairly well and have spoken with the guys at that run the place and have spoken with a lot of the girls there. the first time i went there i got fs. it is definately not a sure thing there. maybe 50% ok and 50% not ok. it really depends on the girl and what they are feeling and you. the af mark was there way of indicating that they give fs, when in fact they do not give af at all.there appears to have been some problems there. i am not sure what. the last two times i went in i got very legal sounding answers from the girls that they do not offer fs and neither does the shop. this is a change from the previous times i went where i had to explain to the girls that i was not instrested in bbfs and wanted to use a condom.i can say one thing for sure. they are not as excited to see foreigners so much any more. the percentage of foreigner clients has greatly increased. at first they liked it because it brought in extra revenue in hard economic times. however, overall alot of girls don't like having to service foreigners and the japanese clients don't like putting their weenies in the same places as whitey.another thing i have noticed is the quality of girls is dropping there. a few months ago when the economy was looking more glum they had some first time in the business time of girls that were desperate because they lost there office jobs, they were all sweet and cute. lately, they seem a bit more used. the last time i went the girl was ugly and clearly wacked out on speed i could not take it. she kept talking and talking and then told me she would give me a hj. before she would start she started telling me the depressing stories of her life i almost just got up and walked out. in the end i got a cold mecanical hj.the experience was so bad i was questioning whether i would ever go there again.[size=-2][b][u]editor's note[/u]:[/b] [blue]i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]click here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]

[QUOTE]And AF "may" be a codeword for FS. Then again it might mean AF. But most girls who offer AF aren't so picky if you want FS, so at the end of the day you'll probably have access to both doors if you pay the extra 5-10, 000.[/QUOTE]a few points: 1. No need to argue or to be accusitory. Different places, different days, different experiences. Too many variables to get up on a soapbox and talk about "rules" and "consequences"2. In MY experience, asking for FS from DH has NEVER upset the girl. Most say yes, some say "no". (I have never tried asking and then asking again with a price---but can appreciate how that can also work for some)3. For the 1st time, recently I reserved an AF course from Milky Baby (report to follow) and the girl said "no" to FS. Interesting concept on many levels but, hey, I can live with that.4. If people are looking for DH w/ J-girls, why don't more use the10000yen.com? They seem as gaijin friendly as it gets and seem to have new girls coming through all the time. Seems like 85-90% of the girls provide FS in my experience.Maybe I'm lucky or naiive. But let's face it: nearly all of us who speak Japanese, speak Japanese with an easily detectible accent (fluent or not). If you call up a place and try to make an appointment, they'll steer you away at that point if they don't like gaijin. For me this has only happened once (lucky, I guess. Or relatively small # of attempts). So, if you see a place you'd like to try, call 'them up and try to make a reservation.Happy hunting!

Recently had my 1st experience with milkybaby. Jp. I made a reservation online. My 1st choice wasn't available, but they worked with me via e-mail to let me know what my choices were. I picked a girl called Tamaru who was lactating (a new one for me).Their system is to follow their map and get to their building and give them a call to learn the exact apartment/suite number. I did so and the "papasan? " told me where to go. When I entered he asked me to have a seat and made some small talk and showed me the photo of the girl I chose online without her face being covered to ask me if I was OK with the choice. I agreed and he asked for the payment. He disappeared for a minute or 2 and came back with a membership card for me and told me to use the membership # when reserving in the future. He made more small talk (this is all in Japanese, by the way) and then excused himself again. About 5 mins later Tamaru showed up and he sent us off to a nearby LH (different from the one I selected in the online form but, fine by me). Tamaru was, objectively speaking, a pretty plain girl. Bad teeth in the multiple rows sorta-way (as opposed to rotting) and---understandibly so--seemed quite "motherly" in appearance/dress, despite being in her early 20s.Tamaru and I checked into the room and I bought her an orange juice. She asked me if I wanted a bath, shower or both and I said "both" (90 min course). We undressed and started to shower. Afterwards we got into the tub. We started to touch each other and make out (she was definitely into DFK) and she asked me if I'd ever been with a lactating girl before. I honestly answered "no" and she started to show me how she could squirt her breast milk and then encouraged me to try. More caressing/kissing/fondling and then she asked me if I'd like to go to the bed. I said "yes".In the bed, BBBJ, 69, DATY, and DFK. Then she asked me if I'd like to do "AF". I said "sure" (again everything in Japanese). She lubed up, grabbed a rubber for me and we got going. 1st with her on her back and then I flipped her to her knees. Very good AF in all the right ways, so I popped after not too long.We relaxed and chatted for a bit and then got to touching/DFK again. After I was ready for more, with here stroking me I asked her if she could do "honban" (FS). She politely said that she couldn't, but proceeded with a BBBJCIM that lasted for about 25-30mins. At completion she vacuumed everything with her mouth, and reached for tissues to spit and another to clean me/dry me off.We chatted a bit more and about 5 mins later, the front desk called for the "15min warning". We showered, got dressed and took off.While chatting, Tamaru said that the shop does have some foreign customers but most are Asian, non-Japanese (which I am not). She mentioned that, she finds it awkward to deal with these customers by using only sign/body language and that she was relieved that I could speak Japanese.Bottom line: great shop, I will go back. I will try a different girl next time. My opinion is that one would have a better experience if you can speak OK/decent Japanese. I don't wanna tell guys to be "careful" not to ruin the place because I assume that most of us behave with common sense in these settings. The lactating thing was cool in terms of "checking off a box" of things I hadn't tried before, but not something I'll necessarily seek out. There are all types of girls there and the customer service seemed quite friendly and accommodating.Any questions?[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]

I was just looking through the TPG forums for the first time in a while. It's a shame that we have people with similar interests sharing apparently useful information in two separate places... makes it that much less searchable/findable/useful. There are some decent-seeming reviews over there, and a preponderance of Asian Mystique talk. One thing I don't like: since most of the posters are 'anonymous' the posts are naturally less reliable... especially some of the rave reviews (reminded me of Manami's boyfriend posting on here a while ago in response to my less-than-rave review of Tokyo Melty Kiss). Seems like there might be an AM troll or two trying to drum up business. I could be wrong, but user id's with post counts and histories would certainly remove most doubt.ES

Here is a quick review of Airi at Grimpeur/Shibuya. Stopped in to the shop, first time. Was shown three pictures -- the guy behind the desk clearly shuffled through his deck of picture cards, and selected to show me only those girls who are gaijin-friendly... par for the course. I picked Airi, who was pretty cute. I paid a 1k membership fee plus 10k for 45 minutes, if I recall. Then I was guided to the dive love hotel across the way (1 min walk) by the desk manager's assistant. Paid the 2.5k 90 min. room charge, went to the room and waited. Airi showed up about 5 minutes later. She was cute and fun:Cuteness: 7Funness: 7.5FS was included for no additional charge, although the condoms in the room were a tight fit. Bring your own. I would recommend Airi although she didn't shoot the lights out. I think the information on her profile is largely accurate. Sorry for the brief review, but no time. Happy to answer any specific questions later.Overall, I can take or leave Grimpeur. It's not bad, but clearly not all the girls are available to us folks, plus that fleabag motel... and the fact that FS is not a foregone conclusion -- seems to be case-by-case: YFSMV.ES

The papa at Milky Baby is reluctant to communicate in English by e-mail (but you can get around that with online language translation) and on the phone (but he probably will if necessary), but once you meet him in person he will speak quite good English with you. He is very personable.However, be advised that in my opinion a large number of girls on both his sites are not actually available, even though they once were. It seems to me he keeps them on the sites to make the pages look full and the phone ringing.

[QUOTE=Ralph Kramden]The papa at Milky Baby is reluctant to communicate in English by e-mail (but you can get around that with online language translation) and on the phone (but he probably will if necessary), but once you meet him in person he will speak quite good English with you. He is very personable.However, be advised that in my opinion a large number of girls on both his sites are not actually available, even though they once were. It seems to me he keeps them on the sites to make the pages look full and the phone ringing.[/QUOTE]Yes, I found the same thing - on all counts. The papa talked my ear off both times I went there (about a huge range of topics), so much so last time the girl had to remind him why I was there.It's a kind of 'unique' establishment though - not for all tastes, but kind of refreshing in it's 'services' and the ambiance of the office. Though having said that, last time I almost 'phased-out' of reality as I sat talking to the papa about global shipping with my gal (a 'plumpy') tapping him on the shoulder. Out of my left eye I saw the door open, and a Japanese Mr Magoo look-alike walk in the door. His date, a breastfeeding mother, was busy doing just that in the little lounge at the back of the shop. The baby was quite noisy though ... I was happy to get out onto the relative calmness of the Ikebukero streets afterwards!Their 'favored' hotel is a Korean-run joint just around the corner. Not bad, not great - but very close. A little bit pongy, but nowhere near as bad as the Hotel Moti opposite Grimpeur. You can use any Ikebukero hotel though, but the papa might 'suggest' the usual one.Both of the plumpy girls I saw were heavily (pardon the pun) into AF, with a host of twists and toys - but neither would allow FS. Seemed odd to me, after some of things they wanted me to do with them, but that's the way the cookie crumbles.I saw the first one for a 'date' just after she quit MB, and just before she left Tokyo, and she had no qualms about FS on that occasion. I think the papa might be insisting on the FS rule - but now I expect a slew of people saying they got it!

[QUOTE=Suedehead] Then she asked me if I'd like to do "AF". I said "sure" (again everything in Japanese).[/QUOTE]Somewhat of a dumb question, but when one refers to AF in spoken Japanese, do you actually say 'ayy effuu' or would you say 'anaru faaku'?

[QUOTE=Meiji]Somewhat of a dumb question, but when one refers to AF in spoken Japanese, do you actually say 'ayy effuu' or would you say 'anaru faaku'?[/QUOTE]In conversation I would normally say "anaru faaku" but in the love hotel I would instead say "omai wa oshiri ni suki desu ne..haiyaku chou dai!" In my deepest yakuza voice. :P

hello,i as wondering if there are any places that offer rep001 services.i want to eat it directly from the womans ass.i already tried it here at this place:[url]http://www.eldoradoyui.com/girls.html[/url]i had experience of rep001 with every girl at this place.each of them had a different taste, but they all were quite good.i am looking for other places that offer this kind of service.let me know.fynx

My first experience at MB was with a lactating mother (not exactly my thing). I paid the extra 5000 for AF. She offered me FS, but I creamed the condom before I could get in, so technically did not do it.My second round was with the plumpy named Pinky, not to awfully plump on a taller than average frame and great tits, but kind of a strange person. We had a fantastic session going so I thought she was primed for FS, but she said flat no. I tried like hell to get it in her ass but she squeled like a stuck pig. I couldn't even get the tip of my head in. Anyway, she can suck the chrome off a trailer hitch, so after 25 minutes of that I inseminated her tonsils with a giant load. A fairly satisfying experience, but I won't repeat. I think there are much better values to be had in Tokyo for about the same money.