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Hi guys,
The flight is on (for now), I reserved an apartment. I have to be tested for COVID. I got the kit yesterday. I have a question regarding the transport. I will arrive at the airport around midnight. I know there is a bus, but I don't know where it stops. I will stay in Laureles. I don't want to walk at 2 AM with my luggage around the city. Any advice or suggestion? I also don't want to pay 50 dollars for a taxi from the airport.
Hey fellas hope all is well and safe. Been following since 2014 haven't posted in a while. Hoping anyone out there with some recent experience can give a tip or two. Thinking of going to Cancun. Bringing one of my long time favorites from Medellin. Quick 5 day getaway. Anyone know what the chica will need to have in hand at the airport to be able to get through immigration? Besides plane ticket and passport and that form you fill out on the plane? I know they've been known to harass Paisas. But she be traveling with me together any info greatly appreciated. Can't wait to hit up the mansion possibly early 2021 ! Thanks fellas.
[QUOTE=NCal2014;2489330]Hey fellas hope all is well and safe. Been following since 2014 haven't posted in a while. Hoping anyone out there with some recent experience can give a tip or two. Thinking of going to Cancun. Bringing one of my long time favorites from Medellin. Quick 5 day getaway. Anyone know what the chica will need to have in hand at the airport to be able to get through immigration? Besides plane ticket and passport and that form you fill out on the plane? I know they've been known to harass Paisas. But she be traveling with me together any info greatly appreciated. Can't wait to hit up the mansion possibly early 2021 ! Thanks fellas.[/QUOTE]There are no entry requirements for Mexico. No PCR test needed. As far as I know Colombians can enter Mexico visa free.
[QUOTE=ShadowJ;2489077]I've done 2 trips to Colombia: Both to Bogota. I was pretty impressed and happy with both the Santa Fe street scene and the escorts on photosprepagos. I was a little disappointed in the higher end nightclubs. But overall, I was happy there.
I've done a good bit of reading. But how does Medellin compare? Will I be blown away by any particular element of the scene down there?[/QUOTE]"City of Eternal Spring?" Everything else in Bogota you simply multiply by a factor of 2 or 3 compared to Medellin, good or bad. Soooooo there are probably 3 X the number of nightclubs in Bogota and if that's your barometer then you will not be "blown away" by Medellin.
[QUOTE=NCal2014;2489330]Hey fellas hope all is well and safe. Been following since 2014 haven't posted in a while. Hoping anyone out there with some recent experience can give a tip or two. Thinking of going to Cancun. Bringing one of my long time favorites from Medellin. Quick 5 day getaway. Anyone know what the chica will need to have in hand at the airport to be able to get through immigration?[/QUOTE]She will need $500 cash minimum on her, reservation at a hotel or airbnb, and a reason to go. It is best if the reason is visiting a friend (other than you if there is a big difference in ages) or going to some kind of an event. And finally, stay clear of Mexico City. They hassle travelers the most. I had one gal who had her shoes stolen and luggage broken into while being kept in some kind of jail in the Mexico City airport. It was the worst few days of her life.
And NCal, you can get a feeling of what to be expected based on how your gal has been treated in hotels. To me, it has been an interesting experiment in seeing how hotels have treated the women / sugar baby types I have met on [URL]seeking.com[/URL]/ SA. About 40% of the women I have seen, maybe because of their age and definitely because of their appearance, gave off a working girl vibe and hotel management became angered and wanted guest fees. While other women elicited almost a joyous response in hotel staff announcing my GF / fiancé type had arrived.
I have since realized that it really is up to the woman to sell that the relationship is not strictly pay for play. If she has not been able to sell herself as not being a prostitute with hotels, I would not bother with even attempting to bring her to Mexico.
Of the four I have tried to get into Mexico, one from Peru who was Venezuelan and three Colombians, the Venezuelan and only one of the Colombians got through.
On my most recent trip, that same Colombian woman visited me in my hotel. I had said to the hotel that I would have a guest but did not even give her name. Even with the difference in our ages, this woman not only got by hotel management, she was able to get them to let her on the elevator which meant someone had to approve her coming to my floor and showed up at my door. Although management did call me to let me know she arrived, she had completely charmed them.
Two of the three times the Venezuelan made it through though she was hassled. I was late to pick up the above Colombian woman because she made it through Mexican customs, which did not surprise me. What truly stunned me is that she made it through in 5 minutes! When I asked her how she did it, she just told me, "You just have to know how to carry yourself."
[QUOTE=NCal2014;2489330]Hey fellas hope all is well and safe. Been following since 2014 haven't posted in a while. Hoping anyone out there with some recent experience can give a tip or two. Thinking of going to Cancun. Bringing one of my long time favorites from Medellin. Quick 5 day getaway. Anyone know what the chica will need to have in hand at the airport to be able to get through immigration? Besides plane ticket and passport and that form you fill out on the plane? I know they've been known to harass Paisas. But she be traveling with me together any info greatly appreciated. Can't wait to hit up the mansion possibly early 2021 ! Thanks fellas.[/QUOTE]Its hurricane season bro.
The shorts thing is a recurring topic. Your point is well taken about the Bogota climate but I've come to realize that for some wearing shorts is a kind of reminder that they are not at work more than it is about comfort or hot temperatures. The last time this came up someone mentioned they were angry when they saw people wearing shorts around Medellin after they were advised against it and decided to leave shorts at home. I wear them on the way back and forth to the gym or if it's an exceptionally warm day I might wear them on a supermarket run. Unless I'm doing either of those or exercising outdoors I don't feel the need.
[QUOTE=Combo;2489209]The average high temp in Bogota is 65 F. Why would you want to wear shorts?[/QUOTE]
Hi guys,
Anyone got news on lleras park as far as clubs and bars open. Girls flocking there at night time for business. Also does Poblado or lleras park have casas in the area.
[QUOTE=Forever18;2489244]Do you like Medellin or Bangkok more and why?[/QUOTE]I love Thailand because I feel like a god there. I'm 6'3, youngish looking, and all around nice guy. For the first time in my life I felt like the pretty girl at the party that everyone wants to fuck. Those girls will Clean you up in the shower, fuck you, then massage you. After all of that they'll do your laundry. Bangkok is a lot of fun but the real action is in Pattaya. Love the soapy massages. There was never a point that I didn't feel safe.
My first and only trip to Medellin was in February. Met up with an amazing driver named Estef through Craigslist. She took me everywhere and made sure I wasn't being scammed. Speaks English very well. She saved my ass from the policia once as well—long story. The women there are so sexy and hot. Girls that would never look at you once in the states unless you were jacked and loaded with money. They are very sexual and sensual. There were a couple of girls that were so good with GFE I was crushed when they left the next day. Weather is perfect there where as in Bangkok is blazing hot and humid. The one downside to Medellin is you really need to be careful. There's a lot of scammers and the policia will always take their side. But money talks.
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2489323]Hi guys,
The flight is on (for now), I reserved an apartment. I have to be tested for COVID. I got the kit yesterday. I have a question regarding the transport. I will arrive at the airport around midnight. I know there is a bus, but I don't know where it stops. I will stay in Laureles. I don't want to walk at 2 AM with my luggage around the city. Any advice or suggestion? I also don't want to pay 50 dollars for a taxi from the airport.[/QUOTE]In normal times (and I have no idea what its like now in time of covid) you can get two different busses from the airport. One that goes to San Diego Mall and one that goes to near the Nutibara hotel in El Centro.
If you were arriving in the day time and you wanted to be as cheap as possible I would recommend taking a bus to San Diego mall then a taxi to wherever you want to go in Laureles (you get off at 1st bus stop, cross the street and there is a taxi rank at the entrance to the mall).
If your arriving at midnight take a taxi. There is a fixed cost. Last time I checked it was 80,000 COP which is 21 USD at current rates. If you took the bus to San Diego (12,000 COP) and then got a taxi to laureles (maybe 20,000 COP?) you would save maybe 40 K cop but at that time of night in my opinion its a bit too dicy to be looking for a taxi around San Diego.
Uber by the way is pretty crap in Medellin and is very hard to get at the airport as the taxi drivers take great offence if anyone other than them picks passengers up.
Beat, EasyTaxi, or Cabily are all good apps for getting taxi's when going point to point in Medellin (but not great for airport pickup).
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2489323]Hi guys,
The flight is on (for now), I reserved an apartment. I have to be tested for COVID. I got the kit yesterday. I have a question regarding the transport. I will arrive at the airport around midnight. I know there is a bus, but I don't know where it stops. I will stay in Laureles. I don't want to walk at 2 AM with my luggage around the city. Any advice or suggestion? I also don't want to pay 50 dollars for a taxi from the airport.[/QUOTE]El Centro and not the bus to San Diego Mall at 2 AM, and deal with getting to Laureles the next day by train after the sun is nice and high in the sky. Be prepared to pay 13,000 pesos as you exit the bus. In El Centro, you will get off on a little side street right at a 24 hour cafe if you're hungry. Across the street over you shoulder is a brothel but they will be closed at 2 AM. By far your best choice and a no-brainer as far I am concerned, is you will be immediately behind the NutiBara Hotel, arguably the nicest hotel in El Centro, and their prices recently have been great, between $21 and $25 per night for Medellin's version of a luxury hotel. At 2 AM, you will not be able to cut through the La Raza BBQ restaurant to get to the NutiBara lobby. You will walk around the same building where you see the La Raza, left of right doesn't matter, to the front entrance of the NutiBara, probably about 300 yards. Not dicey if you don't stray. I don't know if you have been to Medellin before, but you are directly across from Botero Park and I would not hesitate to stay at the NutiBara and explore from there, in the center of the Center, El Centro. I dunno, I would rest up at the Nutibara and then reconnoiter Laureles the next day during daylight hours.
More fotos of Sexy Dexy. Her pussy and face are just as good as her ass. And she has that all-important fun-loving, down-for-anything personality. She's a 9. She is not a sex worker, she sells coffee full time in the Parque.
Pattaya was great. Perfect set up to be a monger. Agree totally. That 20 HR flight is a monster. Coming was longer. Jet lag galore. But party til 8 am was memorable.
[QUOTE=Olvjuse;2489392]I love Thailand because I feel like a god there. I'm 6'3, youngish looking, and all around nice guy. For the first time in my life I felt like the pretty girl at the party that everyone wants to fuck. Those girls will Clean you up in the shower, fuck you, then massage you. After all of that they'll do your laundry. Bangkok is a lot of fun but the real action is in Pattaya. Love the soapy massages. There was never a point that I didn't feel safe.
My first and only trip to Medellin was in February. Met up with an amazing driver named Estef through Craigslist. She took me everywhere and made sure I wasn't being scammed. Speaks English very well. She saved my ass from the policia once as welllong story. The women there are so sexy and hot. Girls that would never look at you once in the states unless you were jacked and loaded with money. They are very sexual and sensual. There were a couple of girls that were so good with GFE I was crushed when they left the next day. Weather is perfect there where as in Bangkok is blazing hot and humid. The one downside to Medellin is you really need to be careful. There's a lot of scammers and the policia will always take their side. But money talks.[/QUOTE].
Another data point on entering Colombia from the US. I flew Spirit from Fort Lauderdale to Medelling on Saturday. Y'all going through Spirit. Make sure to get there early, they are checking PCR tests at the counter, so there's a long line. The things they are checking are the presence of the word PCR and the date of the test. I would highly recommend printing out your PCR results. Upon entering Colombia, they checked my PCR test results again at the jet bridge, along with the email confirmation after filling out the CheckMig thing on the immigration Colombia site. Other than that, everything's the same. Colombia is more or less open from a non-mongering perspective. I think bars are still closed.
Working on lining up a couple of SA chicks, but most of my time will be spent with my novia who I haven't seen for 6 months. Who I actually found on SA too haha, but now it's more of a legit / non P4P relationship.
[QUOTE=Questner;2489157]Most of the flights from the US are overnight, it's very convenient. Argentina is a no go now, they are in extremely bad shape, but USD cash goes long way. Rio has a great natural setting, may be a perfect place for a week.[/QUOTE]Well it seems most are suggesting I go to Bogota. So I will book the ticket. I need to find a hotel near Santa Fe that will allow guest if I want that. And I will get a subscription to Colombia Cupid and hope that works as well. Any other suggestions?
Showdown.
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2489366]Its hurricane season bro.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. Yes I'm going on January. After hurricane season. It does sound a bit complicated. I guess I've got some work to do make sure everything turns out good. Thanks for the info greatly appreciated!!
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2489368]The shorts thing is a recurring topic. Your point is well taken about the Bogota climate but I've come to realize that for some wearing shorts is a kind of reminder that they are not at work more than it is about comfort or hot temperatures. The last time this came up someone mentioned they were angry when they saw people wearing shorts around Medellin after they were advised against it and decided to leave shorts at home. I wear them on the way back and forth to the gym or if it's an exceptionally warm day I might wear them on a supermarket run. Unless I'm doing either of those or exercising outdoors I don't feel the need.[/QUOTE]I live in the South now and the only time I wear shorts to Bogota is on the plane, there and back. But hey, what ever floats your boat. My personal preference is to not stand out in Bogota. I speak pretty good Español and I just as soon blend into the mix than to draw unnecessary attention to myself. In the room, around the hotel hell yea, Comfort baby!
[QUOTE=Showdown;2489439]Well it seems most are suggesting I go to Bogota. So I will book the ticket. I need to find a hotel near Santa Fe that will allow guest if I want that. And I will get a subscription to Colombia Cupid and hope that works as well. Any other suggestions?
Showdown.[/QUOTE]I like Bogota, a city of around 9 million people today, half of them women, 4. 5 million women is a lot of talent to chase. No city in Colombia can offer these kind of odds. I have an apartment in Chico Norte near Parque 93 and one of my favorite things to do is to sit out front of the hotel at lunch time and 5/6 pm and watch all the secretary's walk by. I've actually hooked a few this way. Open your mouth and say Hi! You would be surprised how open and friendly the Colombian women are if you act like a normal person, and oh yea it helps to speak the language. As far as Santa Fe goes, message Woodman, he was very helpful my first visit to SF years ago.
[QUOTE=Showdown;2489439]Well it seems most are suggesting I go to Bogota. So I will book the ticket. I need to find a hotel near Santa Fe that will allow guest if I want that. And I will get a subscription to Colombia Cupid and hope that works as well. Any other suggestions?[/QUOTE]What the duck. In which posts did you see that because I literally saw no one suggest Bogota. You did not even ask about Bogota. You asked about Brazil, Medellin, and Dominican Republic. People only started talking about Bogota when another poster asked for a comparison between Medellin and Bogota.
I doubt anyone would suggest Bogota over Medellin, especially for a first timer. There is nothing in Bogota remotely geared towards foreigners so if you do not speak Spanish you could be in for a less than good time. Bogota is not a vacation destination and it is cold on top of that. Most people suggested Brazil. And some said if the flight to Brazil is too long or the Covid scares you then Medellin. Nobody even mentioned Dominican Republic or Bogota in reference to your question.
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2489323]
I will arrive at the airport around midnight. I know there is a bus, but I don't know where it stops. I will stay in Laureles.[/QUOTE]
MaliBog420's reply is a good one. I will take his advice.
The druggy zombies usually come out at that hour around the bus stop in El Centro. Think about Walking Dead. They will try to help you with your luggage for tip. I would avoid arriving at El Centro late at night if you don't know how to handle it. At San Diego Mall at that hour, you may see something similar but instead of zombies, you will see just normal people or kids which should not be a problem for you. Carry some small bills for tips just in case.
Bars are NOT closed. Clubs / discos are closed.
In Lleras, for example, Beer Store and Lleras Town were open when I was there. Only thing is that they close earlier. Several bars on La 70 were open.
[QUOTE=Rextor;2489428] I think bars are still closed.
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[QUOTE=Rextor;2489428]A they are checking PCR tests at the counter, so there's a long line. The things they are checking are the presence of the word PCR and the date of the test. I would highly recommend printing out your PCR results. Upon entering Colombia, they checked my PCR test results again at the jet bridge, along with the email confirmation after filling out the CheckMig thing on the immigration Colombia site.[/QUOTE]Of course I am not suggesting anyone do this, but couldn't anyone print out a test result themselves on their word processor and turn it in, as long as it says PCR negative and has a recent date?? Makeup the name of a lab? LOL.
Long time reader, first time poster. I'm getting ready to finally get back to paradise after waiting over a year because of the madness that the world is going through. Due to a very tight schedule, I'll only be staying a couple days, as I need to get back to the US. Has anyone gone since the reopening of international flights and returned home to the US? Any issues upon arrival? Any issues at departure, like flight delays? Thanks for any info.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2489464]MaliBog420's reply is a good one. I will take his advice.
The druggy zombies usually come out at that hour around the bus stop in El Centro. Think about Walking Dead. They will try to help you with your luggage for tip. I would avoid arriving at El Centro late at night if you don't know how to handle it. At San Diego Mall at that hour, you may see something similar but instead of zombies, you will see just normal people or kids which should not be a problem for you. Carry some small bills for tips just in case.[/QUOTE]The taxi from the airport to whatever destination in the city is $21.
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2489323]Hi guys,
The flight is on (for now), I reserved an apartment. I have to be tested for COVID. I got the kit yesterday. I have a question regarding the transport. I will arrive at the airport around midnight. I know there is a bus, but I don't know where it stops. I will stay in Laureles. I don't want to walk at 2 AM with my luggage around the city. Any advice or suggestion? I also don't want to pay 50 dollars for a taxi from the airport.[/QUOTE]FIrst, I doubt you could get a "kit" for a PCR test at home. Second, a taxi from MDE airport to city is 75 k, which is 20 USD.
It leaves me speechless to imagine someone first time in Colombia arriving to the Medellin airport at midnight, wait for a bus to stay cheap, arrive behind Nutibara at 1:30 am, look around for a taxi to reach Laureles, etc. etc.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2489562]FIrst, I doubt you could get a "kit" for a PCR test at home. Second, a taxi from MDE airport to city is 75 k, which is 20 USD.
It leaves me speechless to imagine someone first time in Colombia arriving to the Medellin airport at midnight, wait for a bus to stay cheap, arrive behind Nutibara at 1:30 am, look around for a taxi to reach Laureles, etc. etc.[/QUOTE]Home PCR Covid test kits are common. You can buy them in grocery stores in some states and I just checked, they all are over Amazon. I don't know about the timing the results, etc. But that's his problem, not mine. So when you start by saying that you don't believe him, that discredits your advice more than his actions in this example. Taking a bus to El Centro from the airport is exactly what I did my first time to Medellin, after midnight, except I stayed at Hotel Botero on the same street. No big deal. Chillax. Obviously, you wouldn't do it that way. You were right about one thing, the taxi fare and that was good to point out since his estimate was pretty far off.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2489562]FIrst, I doubt you could get a "kit" for a PCR test at home. Second, a taxi from MDE airport to city is 75 k, which is 20 USD.
It leaves me speechless to imagine someone first time in Colombia arriving to the Medellin airport at midnight, wait for a bus to stay cheap, arrive behind Nutibara at 1:30 am, look around for a taxi to reach Laureles, etc. etc.[/QUOTE]Ditto on the midnight bus, a very bad idea. Not a good idea for a seasoned Colombian traveler let lone a newbee. Not sure of your budget but saving money on a midnight bus tour is just stupid.
[QUOTE=NeilGeorge;2489477]Of course I am not suggesting anyone do this, but couldn't anyone print out a test result themselves on their word processor and turn it in, as long as it says PCR negative and has a recent date?? Makeup the name of a lab? LOL.[/QUOTE]It's doable, anyone can download a a test result template from the internet and change the wording through photoshop. Upload it to the migracion app, the officials are not looking for the authenticity of the Test result.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2489456]What the duck. In which posts did you see that because I literally saw no one suggest Bogota. You did not even ask about Bogota. You asked about Brazil, Medellin, and Dominican Republic. People only started talking about Bogota when another poster asked for a comparison between Medellin and Bogota.
I doubt anyone would suggest Bogota over Medellin, especially for a first timer. There is nothing in Bogota remotely geared towards foreigners so if you do not speak Spanish you could be in for a less than good time. Bogota is not a vacation destination and it is cold on top of that. Most people suggested Brazil. And some said if the flight to Brazil is too long or the Covid scares you then Medellin. Nobody even mentioned Dominican Republic or Bogota in reference to your question.[/QUOTE]I read Combo and ShadowJ post saying they thought Bogota was better. Whether they directly answered my post or not it did answer a question I had. Also what attracts me is the street scene in Bogota (Santa Fe) and there does not appear to be one in Medellin.
[QUOTE=NeilGeorge;2489477]Of course I am not suggesting anyone do this, but couldn't anyone print out a test result themselves on their word processor and turn it in, as long as it says PCR negative and has a recent date?? Makeup the name of a lab? LOL.[/QUOTE]Some buddies of mine were photoshopping one person's test and it worked fine. Just change the name and date. If you were like me and didn't know how to photoshop then they would charge $50 to do it for you.
[QUOTE=Showdown;2489597]I read Combo and ShadowJ post saying they thought Bogota was better. Whether they directly answered my post or not it did answer a question I had. Also what attracts me is the street scene in Bogota (Santa Fe) and there does not appear to be one in Medellin.[/QUOTE]Shadow J said he had never been to Medellin and asked for a comparison. Combo only said Bogota was bigger, he did not say it was better.
If you are after Santa Fe then you would be right in that aspect. While I love that place, I hate the Bogota weather. It is not customary to take chicks back to your room. You just fuck them at the rooms they are in front of or at the clubs they are working at. Unless you are taking them long time. I have never gotten one long time, but of all the ones I have asked about it, I have been able to settle on 100,000 with them for LT. (Of course they start higher, but I have never been one to take the first price I am given.) But if it was a club girl then you would have to wait until she finished work at 2am or whatever.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2489603]Shadow J said he had never been to Medellin and asked for a comparison. Combo only said Bogota was bigger, he did not say it was better.
If you are after Santa Fe then you would be right in that aspect. While I love that place, I hate the Bogota weather. It is not customary to take chicks back to your room. You just fuck them at the rooms they are in front of or at the clubs they are working at. Unless you are taking them long time. I have never gotten one long time, but of all the ones I have asked about it, I have been able to settle on 100,000 with them for LT. (Of course they start higher, but I have never been one to take the first price I am given.) But if it was a club girl then you would have to wait until she finished work at 2am or whatever.[/QUOTE]Thanks for all the info Mr E. I looked up what you said about Bogata and it appears you are right about Medellin. Is Medellin mostly massage parlor type action? If I fly down there I want to be sure I have a point and click type situation. I don't want to have to hunt for it via the internet.
Showdown.
[QUOTE=Showdown;2489619]Thanks for all the info Mr E. I looked up what you said about Bogata and it appears you are right about Medellin. Is Medellin mostly massage parlor type action? If I fly down there I want to be sure I have a point and click type situation. I don't want to have to hunt for it via the internet.
[/QUOTE]Medellin has street scenes. Mainly in El Centro that is discussed often here but it is basically a day time action. The other is casa. I guess that is what you call massage parlor. You can go to strip clubs at night. If you just want to fuck a lot and don't mind everything else, pick Santa Fe. It has far larger number of better quality girls in a small area that also has many strip clubs. It probably will be difficult if you don't speak Spanish.
I think it is better to wait to make the strip to avoid disappointment. It is hard to tell what is available now.
I don't want to sound like Chicken Little with this warning but rather out of a sense of duty to let all my comrades know to be safe, aware and understand the new risks with visiting centro and the surrounding areas.
God only knows how much time I have spent in Plaza Botero both in the daytime and also many nights (in the clubs) in the past mainly 3 plus years, especially before the China virus then again with the quarantine finished re-started my visits to numerous times each week so it is a place that I like to frequent to "round-out" my mongering activities here in Medellin. I have met a lot of good chicas and have enjoyed much fun over this time.
Just in the past 2 weeks the desperation, if I can use that words to describe the situation, has become completely apparent by the number of robberies and muggings that I have personally witnessed with my own eyes, usually a few each hour and in broad daylight with people all around. I don't understand why they have removed the Tourist Police tent that use to sit in the front of the museum and which everyone could clearly see at least a presence of the police or why you do not see any Tourist Police making rounds like before the China virus, did the mayor de-fund this?
My wingman, who frequents centro almost daily, tells me just a few days ago this week he witnessed a dozen plus muggings and robberies again in daytime all within a time frame of about 5 hours - 5 fucking hours!. There were so many occurring by the centro gangs at the same time that the police, let me say the police who give a shit about cleaning out the Venezuelan trash punk kids gangs out of the park, had to resort to handcuffing the gang member to the nearest secure iron railing so they could run to the next mugging that was happening just around the corner.
So the threat is real and yes it is organized by gangs (both paisa and Venezuelan) for the most part with the street bitches working in union with them, perhaps out of force or wanting to participate in part of the loot. They all carry knifes on their person, some 2 or more knifes, and they have no hesitation to use them to make you leak, hehehe.
Of course there is also the rouge homeless drug glue sniffing piece of shit trying to take advantage of an opportunity but we all need to watch out for both. Again my opinion has shifted over time to now I believe that it is all organized.
You need to know that the moment any gringo walks into the area they (the GANGS) and every working girl all know this and we are being watched and they will pounce the moment your let your guard down.
Suggest to always visit with a buddy or two, or three and keep your head on a swivel and stay constantly aware of everything around you. Do not pull your cell phone out unless your completely aware of your surroundings. Never carry more money than you need to have a bite to eat and to fuck a few of the bitches. Dress down and always be mindful of your surroundings.
I have many details which reinforce these strong opinions and position and hence this strong warning on this situation but because of a variety of reasons (confidentiality) I will not publicly disclose. Just be safe guys.
And yes I will still visit centro and play albeit with a renewed sense of awareness and a give a shit attitude for anyone and everyone that passes you, they are not your friends rather your a target so I have this mind set when I visit. If anyone invades my personal space, that being about a little more than an arms reach I will become mid evil on their ass. This is a message that I have been sending and handing out and will become, I should say has already become second nature.
Much love and respect to all!
The Tall Man.
You would use the San Diego bus to get to Laureles. I doubt the combuses will be running that late with the reduced flight schedules. The alternatives are not necessarily a lot safer. It's easier to get Shanghaied alone in a taxi. If one of you guys has a driver you know that might help the original poster.
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2489583]Ditto on the midnight bus, a very bad idea. Not a good idea for a seasoned Colombian traveler let lone a newbee. Not sure of your budget but saving money on a midnight bus tour is just stupid.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Showdown;2489597]I read Combo and ShadowJ post saying they thought Bogota was better. Whether they directly answered my post or not it did answer a question I had. Also what attracts me is the street scene in Bogota (Santa Fe) and there does not appear to be one in Medellin.[/QUOTE]In my opinion, the "street scene" if you include the Veracruz area, the park in front of the Museum, the backside of the Veracruz Church, and the Avenida de la Grief area in downtown El Cenro of Medellin has way more women available than the Santa Fe Area, and is less unionized. That's at least my observation of things after spending three days visiting the Santa Fe area a few years back. And again it's a matter of how you roll. Most of the girls in the Santa Fe area at least when I was there were pretty much working in front of the Hotels they used, whereas in Medellin a lot of the women float around more walking around the area's I mentioned. I was looking for street walkers and didn't find a lot that weren't specifically associated with one Hotel. It was very different and one club advertised that they just Paisas in it. It will boil down to personal preference for you. If your a point and shoot, 30 minute, slam bam thank you type of guy you might prefer it over the Medellin street scene regardless of the pro's and con's of Bogota besides mongering which is a whole other subject. I personally won't go back to Bogota, the weather wasn't so much an issue, yet so big and crowded and hard to get around. Perhaps you should visit Bogota a few days and then go to Medellin. A lot of other guys in the past have grappled with the decision your trying to make, and invariably when they go to Medellin first and then Bogota, they wish they had stayed in Medellin.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2489373]Hi guys,
Anyone got news on lleras park as far as clubs and bars open. Girls flocking there at night time for business. Also does Poblado or lleras park have casas in the area.[/QUOTE]I made a brief visit to Parque Lleras last Sunday afternoon out of curiosity. I had not ventured over there since February. Posters here are going to tell you. "bars are open", and technically that is true. There are a few still operating on the weekend. But, the place is devastated. On my walk-through, I surmised that at least 4 out 5 of the restaurants, charcuterias, and licoreras we all used to enjoy are closed. And looking like they will never re-open. It is in no way what you remember or have heard about.
I can't give a personal account, but I highly doubt the place is full of working girls on the week-end due to what I described above.
Even the beautiful Hotel Charlee is shuttered. Its a bit startling to see all of this to those of us with fond memories of nights out there through the past.
The managers hanging out in one restaurant told me they plan to re-open but have no time table.
Calle 10 and Provenza looked a bit less damaged. I ate in Jay-Way (pron. Yah-wheh) Mexican restaurant / bar on Calle 10. The food was good and priced right. I found it irritating though that they do no have menus. You've got to scan a QR panel to see the menu on a smartphone.
In spite of all this, I spotted porky, pink, loud gringos in more than 1 place.
There have never been casas (locally known as "Salas") in Poblado.
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2489323]Hi guys,
The flight is on (for now), I reserved an apartment. I have to be tested for COVID. I got the kit yesterday. I have a question regarding the transport. I will arrive at the airport around midnight. I know there is a bus, but I don't know where it stops. I will stay in Laureles. I don't want to walk at 2 AM with my luggage around the city. Any advice or suggestion? I also don't want to pay 50 dollars for a taxi from the airport.[/QUOTE]I respect the advice of my fellow mongers but I double down on my advice and speak from direct experience. I lived on that street for more than 4 months, in Hotel Botero, an apartment, and I stayed at the Nutibara as well. The corner where the bus stops is safe because of the bus workers and the 24-hour caf there is well lit, and there are regular people inside. The owner shoos away the riff-raff. Sit down, grab a bite, and they will help you if you need it. You cross the street and you are at the Nutibara but you have to walk around the closest corner to get to the front entrance that time of night. The sidewalk will take you right to the front door. As long as you don't wander you will be fine. There are taxi cabs at the caf corner where the bus lets you off and if you are so inclined, you could pay the minimum taxi fare, I think it's 3000 (less than $1) to drive you around the building to the front door of the Nutibara. Don't head off in the wrong direction. At that time of night, toting luggage would make you a target for getting "rolled" by the Venezuelan hoods and trannies who control a few blocks over from the Nutibara.
By the time I left El Centro I could walk into the heart of the beast from Botero in the opposite direction of the Nutibara to visit two bisexual female Venezuelan roommates who were friends of mine. Everyone left me alone because I was known by then, and protected by the Venezuelan muscle. My point is maybe I am a little crazy and cavalier with my advice and you should take that into account. I've been to all 7 continents and mongored on six of them (there are no sex workers on Antarctica) and I never had a lick of trouble. Now that I think about it, maybe you should do the opposite of what I say, jjajajajaja I have been incredibly lucky, all my life.
The taxi from the airport is a lot cheaper than you stated but that price quote would probably not get you to your apartment in Laureles. You should have a clear understanding how much it will cost before you get in the taxi. Pencil and paper comes in handy. Write down the address and have the driver write the amount for the fare, and don't get in unless he does.
I have not been to Medellin since the beginning of the Covid crisis, and trouble areas can change. But the months I spent at Hotel Botero just before the crisis, I saw that immediate area around the bus stop and Nutibara getting safer, not worse. Your call.
Fotos are of the Venezuelan Roommates mentioned above, skinny Minnie and Choco-Thik. Their contrast of their asses was made to order and yet another too-good-to-be-true Medellin experience, jeje.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2489603]Shadow J said he had never been to Medellin and asked for a comparison. Combo only said Bogota was bigger, he did not say it was better.
If you are after Santa Fe then you would be right in that aspect. While I love that place, I hate the Bogota weather. It is not customary to take chicks back to your room. You just fuck them at the rooms they are in front of or at the clubs they are working at. Unless you are taking them long time. I have never gotten one long time, but of all the ones I have asked about it, I have been able to settle on 100,000 with them for LT. (Of course they start higher, but I have never been one to take the first price I am given.) But if it was a club girl then you would have to wait until she finished work at 2am or whatever.[/QUOTE]Yup. Bogota is a much larger city and as such has way more offerings for our hobby. It has way more high-end clubs, and way more low-end options also. But Medellin for most foreigners is a much more pleasant city to visit. The weather is a big part of that. But also, the people are more friendly, and the city is easier to get around.
I agree with Mr. E. I go on vacation for balmy weather as well as pussy.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2489373]Hi guys,
Anyone got news on lleras park as far as clubs and bars open. Girls flocking there at night time for business. Also does Poblado or lleras park have casas in the area.[/QUOTE]This guy is in Medellin and he made this video not this past Saturday but a week ago Saturday, he does a pretty good walk around.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xml_N2N0wvs[/URL]
Anyone stayed in this area before. How is it? Feedback welcome.
Scares me a little that some are not wearing masks. I won't be too far from the park. This trip will certainly have its reservations
[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2489710]This guy is in Medellin and he made this video not this past Saturday but a week ago Saturday, he does a pretty good walk around.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xml_N2N0wvs[/URL][/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Kulibali;2489586]It's doable, anyone can download a a test result template from the internet and change the wording through photoshop. Upload it to the migracion app, the officials are not looking for the authenticity of the Test result.[/QUOTE]Sure, good luck to find one, especially in Europe.
From what several people that are on the ground in Medellin are saying, the ground game (bars, parks and clubs) is still recovering and will be for some time yet. Does anyone know how the online game is doing? (SA, Tinder or FB). Is that something that is a option for someone that's planning to go to Medellin in the near future? Or is it just a waste? Any advise from people that are in the scene right now is always appreciated.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2489562]FIrst, I doubt you could get a "kit" for a PCR test at home. Second, a taxi from MDE airport to city is 75 k, which is 20 USD.[/QUOTE]It's not a test you do at home: they send you a kit to take the samples, you send back to the lab. You receive the result and certificate COVID-19 Fit for Flight, 2 days later. You can't do a PCR test at home, because PCR stands for Polymerase Chain Reaction, a technique invented by Kary Mullis, who got the Nobel prize for that. It amplifies the segments of DNA. You need special equipment to perform PCR, only a lab can do that.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2489711]Anyone stayed in this area before. How is it? Feedback welcome.[/QUOTE]The Manila barrio is located to the left of Calle 10 as your going up the hill from the Poblado Metro station opposite EXITO. And prior to the Pandemic, there were several good restaraunts there. As far as accomodations, there are a few hotels, and I'm sure there are apartments reasonably priced for rental there. The location is excellent as far as walking access to LLeras no more than ten minutes up the hill and ten minutes down the hill to the Metro Station. If your looking for a place to stay, besides the Manila barrio, there are the Astorga and Patio Bonito barrios directly to the right side of the EXITO on the right side of Calle 10 going up the hill. The Astorga barrio is located directly below Parque Poblabo and Avenda Poblado, and is where all the young Colombians (not tourists) hang on the weekends versus Lleras. These three barrios are excellent locations, and are often times over looked as places to stay, all within easy walking access to the night life district around Lleras, the Metro, and hundreds of places to eat and party.
[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2489701]I respect the advice of my fellow mongers but I double down on my advice and speak from direct experience. I lived on that street for more than 4 months, in Hotel Botero, an apartment, and I stayed at the Nutibara as well. The corner where the bus stops is safe because of the bus workers and the 24-hour caf there is well lit, and there are regular people inside. The owner shoos away the riff-raff. Sit down, grab a bite, and they will help you if you need it. You cross the street and you are at the Nutibara but you have to walk around the closest corner to get to the front entrance that time of night. The sidewalk will take you right to the front door. As long as you don't wander you will be fine. There are taxi cabs at the caf corner where the bus lets you off and if you are so inclined, you could pay the minimum taxi fare, I think it's 3000 (less than $1) to drive you around the building to the front door of the Nutibara. Don't head off in the wrong direction. At that time of night, toting luggage would make you a target for getting "rolled" by the Venezuelan hoods and trannies who control a few blocks over from the Nutibara.
By the time I left El Centro I could walk into the heart of the beast from Botero in the opposite direction of the Nutibara to visit two bisexual female Venezuelan roommates who were friends of mine. Everyone left me alone because I was known by then, and protected by the Venezuelan muscle. My point is maybe I am a little crazy and cavalier with my advice and you should take that into account. I've been to all 7 continents and mongored on six of them (there are no sex workers on Antarctica) and I never had a lick of trouble. Now that I think about it, maybe you should do the opposite of what I say, jjajajajaja I have been incredibly lucky, all my life.
The taxi from the airport is a lot cheaper than you stated but that price quote would probably not get you to your apartment in Laureles. You should have a clear understanding how much it will cost before you get in the taxi. Pencil and paper comes in handy. Write down the address and have the driver write the amount for the fare, and don't get in unless he does.
I have not been to Medellin since the beginning of the Covid crisis, and trouble areas can change. But the months I spent at Hotel Botero just before the crisis, I saw that immediate area around the bus stop and Nutibara getting safer, not worse. Your call.
Fotos are of the Venezuelan Roommates mentioned above, skinny Minnie and Choco-Thik. Their contrast of their asses was made to order and yet another too-good-to-be-true Medellin experience, jeje.[/QUOTE]At midnight, my experience is the majority of taxis and Uber would not even come to the bus stop. That should tell you something. There maybe one worker left in the cafe and they are not there to protect passages. I also think most shops in that area will not interfere with a crime. It will be an unpleasant and perhaps scary experience even if you know it is safe. You are experienced so it is fine for you but it is not a good advice to a newbie. Besides the bus may not be running.
There are two types of taxis at the airport. The cheaper one is shared taxi that works like bus. That is not what other members suggested.
Had two trips booked for November to Medellin. Spirit Airlines contacted me today to inform me that both flights had been cancelled. I am assuming they are cutting back on flights due to low demand. I rebooked my one trip with spirit and used the voucher. I also now have to travel to a different city for my return flight which is a pain in the ass. I cancelled my other trip and just received the refund. Just giving people a heads up if your choosing airlines. I am not a fan of Spirit.
[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2489701]I respect the advice of my fellow mongers but I double down on my advice and speak from direct experience. I lived on that street for more than 4 months, in Hotel Botero, an apartment, and I stayed at the Nutibara as well. The corner where the bus stops is safe because of the bus workers and the 24-hour caf there is well lit, and there are regular people inside. The owner shoos away the riff-raff. Sit down, grab a bite, and they will help you if you need it. You cross the street and you are at the Nutibara but you have to walk around the closest corner to get to the front entrance that time of night. The sidewalk will take you right to the front door. As long as you don't wander you will be fine. There are taxi cabs at the caf corner where the bus lets you off and if you are so inclined, you could pay the minimum taxi fare, I think it's 3000 (less than $1) to drive you around the building to the front door of the Nutibara. Don't head off in the wrong direction. At that time of night, toting luggage would make you a target for getting "rolled" by the Venezuelan hoods and trannies who control a few blocks over from the Nutibara.
By the time I left El Centro I could walk into the heart of the beast from Botero in the opposite direction of the Nutibara to visit two bisexual female Venezuelan roommates who were friends of mine. Everyone left me alone because I was known by then, and protected by the Venezuelan muscle. My point is maybe I am a little crazy and cavalier with my advice and you should take that into account. I've been to all 7 continents and mongored on six of them (there are no sex workers on Antarctica) and I never had a lick of trouble. Now that I think about it, maybe you should do the opposite of what I say, jjajajajaja I have been incredibly lucky, all my life.
The taxi from the airport is a lot cheaper than you stated but that price quote would probably not get you to your apartment in Laureles. You should have a clear understanding how much it will cost before you get in the taxi. Pencil and paper comes in handy. Write down the address and have the driver write the amount for the fare, and don't get in unless he does.
I have not been to Medellin since the beginning of the Covid crisis, and trouble areas can change. But the months I spent at Hotel Botero just before the crisis, I saw that immediate area around the bus stop and Nutibara getting safer, not worse. Your call.[/QUOTE]Thank you, this is the most constructive post I read. I took note. Once at the airport I will get some money from the ATM, then I will then check the bus timetable, and if there is a bus soon I will take it, and then I will take a taxi from the bus stop to reach my apartment. If I have to wait too long for the bus, then I'll negotiate a price for the taxi. The day after, first thing in the morning, I will buy a SIM card, and I will put into the cheap Android phone I bought.
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2489647]I don't want to sound like Chicken Little with this warning but rather out of a sense of duty to let all my comrades know to be safe, aware and understand the new risks with visiting centro and the surrounding areas.
God only knows how much time I have spent in Plaza Botero both in the daytime and also many nights (in the clubs) in the past mainly 3 plus years, especially before the China virus then again with the quarantine finished re-started my visits to numerous times each week so it is a place that I like to frequent to "round-out" my mongering activities here in Medellin. I have met a lot of good chicas and have enjoyed much fun over this time.
Just in the past 2 weeks the desperation, if I can use that words to describe the situation, has become completely apparent by the number of robberies and muggings that I have personally witnessed with my own eyes, usually a few each hour and in broad daylight with people all around. I don't understand why they have removed the Tourist Police tent that use to sit in the front of the museum and which everyone could clearly see at least a presence of the police or why you do not see any Tourist Police making rounds like before the China virus, did the mayor de-fund this?.[/QUOTE]This is a bit chilling to say the least which I am not looking forward to witnessing upon my return within a few weeks. Prior to the Pandemic, the sight of gringos was music to the ears of the hookers hoping for a client, and yes robberies were always occurring, but not even close to what you've described. The way you've described this, it's as though someone is bleeding in the Ocean and the Sharks are circling. I remember something literally identical to what you have described in Tijuana which you might recall. I think it was about 10 years ago there were a lot of cops getting taken out in Zona Norte the red light district there, and the cops stopped patrolling the area. Than what happened gangs of guys would take people out on the sidewalk by doing a choke-hold. And it wasn't just gringos but Mexicans getting hit as well. I remember witnessing an older Mexican getting robbed right in front of a barbershop and the guys didn't even run away as there were no police and nobody did anything. When I would be there I wouldn't even walk on the sidewalk, but stayed in the street to avoid getting taken out. The gangs would walk on the sidewalk and would literally glare / dare me to walk on the sidewalk to rob me.
Your advice to go with others is warranted, and for those contemplating going alone, if your an obvious gringo with limited experience in El Centro, not a good idea to venture there as you have pointed out and hopefully others will take your advice as the knives are for real and you will be easy prey.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2489732]At midnight, my experience is the majority of taxis and Uber would not even come to the bus stop. That should tell you something. There maybe one worker left in the cafe and they are not there to protect passages. I also think most shops in that area will not interfere with a crime. It will be an unpleasant and perhaps scary experience even if you know it is safe. You are experienced so it is fine for you but it is not a good advice to a newbie. Besides the bus may not be running.
There are two types of taxis at the airport. The cheaper one is shared taxi that works like bus. That is not what other members suggested.[/QUOTE]Wow guys, I have to say I'm impressed. I mean, I wonder why you all go to Colombia if you are so scared to get robbed any minute, or stabbed or kidnapped. Stay safe at home in USA, when a guy can buy an AK-47 or any fuckin automatic gun and do a massacre in a school, just because he is annoyed. I'm sure I can get a taxi in Medellin ANY time, night and day. It looks like they are all waiting for me at the bus stop, I mean, the main bus stop for the bus coming from the airport. Come on.
[QUOTE=Njoean197;2489737]Had two trips booked for November to Medellin. Spirit Airlines contacted me today to inform me that both flights had been cancelled. I am assuming they are cutting back on flights due to low demand. I rebooked my one trip with spirit and used the voucher. I also now have to travel to a different city for my return flight which is a pain in the ass. I cancelled my other trip and just received the refund. Just giving people a heads up if your choosing airlines. I am not a fan of Spirit.[/QUOTE]COPA will have service from Panama City to Medellin starting on the 12th of this month. And AVIANCA from I believe Miami as well this month.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2489662]You would use the San Diego bus to get to Laureles. I doubt the combuses will be running that late with the reduced flight schedules. The alternatives are not necessarily a lot safer. It's easier to get Shanghaied alone in a taxi. If one of you guys has a driver you know that might help the original poster.[/QUOTE][URL]Combuses.com[/URL], they said they buses run 24 hours coming from the airport, but I would rather pay the 75000 pesos to get to my hotel.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2489732]At midnight, my experience is the majority of taxis and Uber would not even come to the bus stop. That should tell you something. There maybe one worker left in the cafe and they are not there to protect passages. I also think most shops in that area will not interfere with a crime. It will be an unpleasant and perhaps scary experience even if you know it is safe. You are experienced so it is fine for you but it is not a good advice to a newbie. Besides the bus may not be running.
There are two types of taxis at the airport. The cheaper one is shared taxi that works like bus. That is not what other members suggested.[/QUOTE]The thought of trying to be a Cheap Charlie in the early hours of the morning amazes me. Who ever started this post about how to get from the Airport to Laureles via buses after midnight probably shouldn't be venturing to Medellin.
It's a no brainer, get in a cab at the Airport directly to Laureles. I can only imagine a first time visitor, a gringo, with no Spanish speaking skills attempting this. He will be lucky to have any of his belongings left after arriving in El Centro.
Got a nice place in that area. Notice its 12 minutes or less to all the good spots. The policy says no noise after 9 pm. I hope the the building is ready for tony the tiger LOL. I am interested in exploring the strip joints in centro. Just one time though. My stomach cannot take being a regular LOL.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2489725]The Manila barrio is located to the left of Calle 10 as your going up the hill from the Poblado Metro station opposite EXITO. And prior to the Pandemic, there were several good restaraunts there. As far as accomodations, there are a few hotels, and I'm sure there are apartments reasonably priced for rental there. The location is excellent as far as walking access to LLeras no more than ten minutes up the hill and ten minutes down the hill to the Metro Station. If your looking for a place to stay, besides the Manila barrio, there are the Astorga and Patio Bonito barrios directly to the right side of the EXITO on the right side of Calle 10 going up the hill. The Astorga barrio is located directly below Parque Poblabo and Avenda Poblado, and is where all the young Colombians (not tourists) hang on the weekends versus Lleras. These three barrios are excellent locations, and are often times over looked as places to stay, all within easy walking access to the night life district around Lleras, the Metro, and hundreds of places to eat and party.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Blakman;2489713]Scares me a little that some are not wearing masks. I won't be too far from the park. This trip will certainly have its reservations
.[/QUOTE]You're going to be boning multiple chicas and you're worried about people not wearing masks?
Getting ready for my next trip to MDE on October 21. Looking at my list and checking it twice. Too many chicas, not enough time.
Funny thing. I recently started seeing postings for a chica that for a brief time visited the mansion about 4 years ago. She was young and prime. So I have seen some posts on FB and I've always wanted to bang her. So I messaged her. Sure enough, she still work. She still looks good. I still want to bang her. I asked her price. 300 mil for one hour! Jajajajaja That does not even justify a reply. Too bad.
I saw where one guy posted that if he could not get the bus from the airport, he would 'negotiate" with a taxi. Really? Good luck to you. Maybe you can negotiate with a gypsy taxi and take your chance. The white taxi are safe, but they are at a fixed rate (85 mil when using the tunnel. 65 mil on the return).
Ready to go back again. I have so much more to accomplish.
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2489740]Thank you, this is the most constructive post I read. I took note.[/QUOTE]Good luck then! Constructive or destructive, you'll see with your own eyes. At least you have been warned.
I just wonder: if saving 12 USD is so important to you (taxi fare MDE-Laureles - bus fare MDE-Centro - taxi fare Centro-Laureles), how much are you going to spend with girls over your whole stay? Also, I understand "time is money" is not for you.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2489732]At midnight, my experience is the majority of taxis and Uber would not even come to the bus stop. . Besides the bus may not be running.
There are two types of taxis at the airport. The cheaper one is shared taxi that works like bus. That is not what other members suggested.[/QUOTE]Last time I was at the Botero my Fase Dos girlie caught the last bus of the night at 10 pm, she was headed to Rio Negro. Possibly that bus makes the return trip with passengers but midnight might be too late for that.
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2489740]Thank you, this is the most constructive post I read. I took note. Once at the airport I will get some money from the ATM, then I will then check the bus timetable, and if there is a bus soon I will take it, and then I will take a taxi from the bus stop to reach my apartment. If I have to wait too long for the bus, then I'll negotiate a price for the taxi. [/QUOTE]Don't think they have a bus timetable, there are usually 2 buses at the curb, one goes to Centro behind the Nutribara and the other to San Diego. Just ask which is which, they leave when they get mostly full. They look like this:
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2489664]In my opinion, the "street scene" if you include the Veracruz area, the park in front of the Museum, the backside of the Veracruz Church, and the Avenida de la Grief area in downtown El Cenro of Medellin has way more women available than the Santa Fe Area, and is less unionized. That's at least my observation of things after spending three days visiting the Santa Fe area a few years back. And again it's a matter of how you roll. Most of the girls in the Santa Fe area at least when I was there were pretty much working in front of the Hotels they used, whereas in Medellin a lot of the women float around more walking around the area's I mentioned. I was looking for street walkers and didn't find a lot that weren't specifically associated with one Hotel. It was very different and one club advertised that they just Paisas in it. It will boil down to personal preference for you. If your a point and shoot, 30 minute, slam bam thank you type of guy you might prefer it over the Medellin street scene regardless of the pro's and con's of Bogota besides mongering which is a whole other subject. I personally won't go back to Bogota, the weather wasn't so much an issue, yet so big and crowded and hard to get around. Perhaps you should visit Bogota a few days and then go to Medellin. A lot of other guys in the past have grappled with the decision your trying to make, and invariably when they go to Medellin first and then Bogota, they wish they had stayed in Medellin.[/QUOTE]I just came back from making a lap around the vera cruz area. I have to respectfully disagree. If you're specifically talking about the vera cruz area, it doesn't compare to santa fe in my opinion. I've walked that area so many times over the years always hoping for something to catch my eye. I've never screwed anyone in the vera cruz (the perimeter of the church block). Santa fe on the other hand, theres rarely ever a time I don't see something I like there.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2489751]The thought of trying to be a Cheap Charlie in the early hours of the morning amazes me. Who ever started this post about how to get from the Airport to Laureles via buses after midnight probably shouldn't be venturing to Medellin.
It's a no brainer, get in a cab at the Airport directly to Laureles. I can only imagine a first time visitor, a gringo, with no Spanish speaking skills attempting this. He will be lucky to have any of his belongings left after arriving in El Centro.[/QUOTE]Take advice from a cheap charlie. Take the cab.
If its daytime however. The bus is just fine. I took it the other day. Every other seat is blocked off and they give you a tag for your luggage so no one else takes it.
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2489744]Wow guys, I have to say I'm impressed. [/QUOTE]Trust me at least on this: [U]WE[/U] are way more impressed by your sequence of comments than you by our advice notes.
Seeing is believing, so good luck with the bus, but especially do not miss to have an entertaining and instructive walk around the streets of Centro after midnight, once you are settled in Medellin.
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2489647]I don't want to sound like Chicken Little with this warning but rather out of a sense of duty to let all my comrades know to be safe, aware and understand the new risks with visiting centro and the surrounding areas.
God only knows how much time I have spent in Plaza Botero both in the daytime and also many nights (in the clubs) in the past mainly 3 plus years, especially before the China virus then again with the quarantine finished re-started my visits to numerous times each week so it is a place that I like to frequent to "round-out" my mongering activities here in Medellin. I have met a lot of good chicas and have enjoyed much fun over this time.
Just in the past 2 weeks the desperation, if I can use that words to describe the situation, has become completely apparent by the number of robberies and muggings that I have personally witnessed with my own eyes, usually a few each hour and in broad daylight with people all around. I don't understand why they have removed the Tourist Police tent that use to sit in the front of the museum and which everyone could clearly see at least a presence of the police or why you do not see any Tourist Police making rounds like before the China virus, did the mayor de-fund this?
My wingman, who frequents centro almost daily, tells me just a few days ago this week he witnessed a dozen plus muggings and robberies again in daytime all within a time frame of about 5 hours - 5 fucking hours!. There were so many occurring by the centro gangs at the same time that the police, let me say the police who give a shit about cleaning out the Venezuelan trash punk kids gangs out of the park, had to resort to handcuffing the gang member to the nearest secure iron railing so they could run to the next mugging that was happening just around the corner.
So the threat is real and yes it is organized by gangs (both paisa and Venezuelan) for the most part with the street bitches working in union with them, perhaps out of force or wanting to participate in part of the loot. They all carry knifes on their person, some 2 or more knifes, and they have no hesitation to use them to make you leak, hehehe..[/QUOTE]I defer to this post, Tall Man's info is more up-to-date than mine.
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2489740]Thank you, this is the most constructive post I read. I took note. Once at the airport I will get some money from the ATM, then I will then check the bus timetable, and if there is a bus soon I will take it, and then I will take a taxi from the bus stop to reach my apartment. If I have to wait too long for the bus, then I'll negotiate a price for the taxi. The day after, first thing in the morning, I will buy a SIM card, and I will put into the cheap Android phone I bought.[/QUOTE]I did not recommend you bus into El Centro to catch a taxi to Laureles at 2 AM. My point was that you could get safely to the Nutibara Hotel from the airport, by bus. If you are not going to do the Nutibara, then given what Tall Man posted, I think you should take a taxi directly from the airport. I have not been to Medellin since Covid and I would take Tall Man's "Chicken Little" post to heart. His info is more up-to-date and concerning about the current state in Medellin. I on the other hand am a crazy, sarcastic, attention whoring asshole who probably should have been dead or seriously injured at least half-a-dozen times. And that is just in the past week jajajaja. I'm kidding, but always consider your source. Good Luck. I'd rather be lucky than good, and I have been.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2489774]I just came back from making a lap around the vera cruz area. I have to respectfully disagree. If you're specifically talking about the vera cruz area, it doesn't compare to santa fe in my opinion. I've walked that area so many times over the years always hoping for something to catch my eye. I've never screwed anyone in the vera cruz (the perimeter of the church block). Santa fe on the other hand, theres rarely ever a time I don't see something I like there.[/QUOTE]I don't think we have a disagreement here. I wasn't talking about the Veracruz area alone, but the surrounding areas as well including Avenida de la Grief, the park in front of the museum, and the backside of the church in terms of total numbers of girls available compared to Santa Fe, versus the quality of the girls which your commenting on I believe.
It's totally different in Santa Fe as your aware, there's no adjacent park, it's more of a dedicated red light area, and there's no big influx of people thru the area (tourists, locals) like in Medellin.
As far as what you see that you like, and what I see that I like, well that is where the difference lies.
I'm pretty sure you wouldn't get near any of the Chicas I go with but perhaps a few of them if any, and I most probably wouldn't waste my time with any of the ones you go with either. And there's nothing wrong with that at all.
For the way I roll, Santa Fe just didn't do it for me, and albeit there are some nice line-ups there, it felt a bit unionized with the girls hanging out in the front of the Hotels.
Everybody rolls different here, with no way being the right way.
I haven't stayed there but I used to frequent several restaurants. Most of those haven't reopened yet. The neighborhood is popular with young foreigners. It looks like what the Colombians call a "traditional barrio" but its proximity to Parque Poblado and Parque Lleras attracts the young Euros, South Americans, and a smattering of US / Canada gringos. You will note the cost of rooms and apartments is much lower there than in the Poblado towers. As always, shop around, ask questions, and try to get as many photos as you can. Don't accept wide angle lens photos or photos taken at an odd angle because it is usually a sign the owner is hiding something.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2489711]Anyone stayed in this area before. How is it? Feedback welcome.[/QUOTE]
I don't know my thoughts once I get there. But for now I have reservations. I paid my money to airbnb and no refund for longer than 30 days so I am all in on this trip. But for now I have reservations.
[QUOTE=Combo;2489758]You're going to be boning multiple chicas and you're worried about people not wearing masks?[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2489740]Once at the airport I will get some money from the ATM, then I will then check the bus timetable, and if there is a bus soon I will take it, and then I will take a taxi from the bus stop to reach my apartment. If I have to wait too long for the bus, then I'll negotiate a price for the taxi.[/QUOTE]What bus timetable? I guess you are talking about me. You do not have a choice but to take a taxi. The bus stops at midnight and starts back up at 3:30 am.
I have never taken a taxi. I have only taken the bus when staying downtown and bus taxi combo when staying in Laureles as you were trying to do. For future reference it is not hard. There are 2 possible buses outside, Centro and San Diego. You walk up to the guy standing next to the bus and ask, San Diego? If he says si, you go to the back of the bus so that he can put your luggage inside and give you a green reusable rubber claim number for it. You take the San Diego bus and when you see people getting off that is where you get off. Usually there are taxis waiting right there for people getting off of the bus. You do not even have to cross the street.
For reverse order you can search for my post from the first few days in February complete with pictures.
[QUOTE=Combo;2489758]You're going to be boning multiple chicas and you're worried about people not wearing masks?[/QUOTE]Take a chance with one say once a day (shows how old I am) versus. It depends where people are not wearing masks. But if you take riding the metro, for example, you may be in close proximity to hundreds. So you pick where you want to take your chances. Perhaps on the metro they all wear masks. But even so you can be in such close proximity that I think the risks would be many many times higher than once a day with one chica.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2489774]I just came back from making a lap around the vera cruz area. I have to respectfully disagree. If you're specifically talking about the vera cruz area, it doesn't compare to santa fe in my opinion.[/QUOTE]Ditto that. Santa Fe is the greatest street scene in the world. There are hundreds of chicks over more than 6 square blocks. I can not think of any other place in the world I would rather be on a Friday night.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2489751]The thought of trying to be a Cheap Charlie in the early hours of the morning amazes me. Who ever started this post about how to get from the Airport to Laureles via buses after midnight probably shouldn't be venturing to Medellin.
It's a no brainer, get in a cab at the Airport directly to Laureles. I can only imagine a first time visitor, a gringo, with no Spanish speaking skills attempting this. He will be lucky to have any of his belongings left after arriving in El Centro.[/QUOTE]San Diego bus, taxis, shared white taxis, private SUV transports, over the years I've used them all. But, I don't understand the penny-pinching endangerment angle upon arrival. Did you travel all this way to have a good time or fret about money from day 1? There are a number of friendly females who will warmly greet you in the airport as you pass through baggage pick-up. Then, take you directly to your accommodations, or stop to eat/drink with you, in their car, and get your visit started with a "bang" . If you've been away for a while, or if you're new, this is absolutely the best way to arrive. I kinda doubt they want to go into the depths of the el centro night with you though.
Arrive safely, minimal hassle, and satisfied. Pinch pesos the next day.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2489725]The Manila barrio is located to the left of Calle 10 as your going up the hill from the Poblado Metro station opposite EXITO.[/QUOTE]I know the barrio because I went to a farmacia right there (it was cheap, but they had the worst off brand selection).
Just a heads up, this is where a forum member recently got robbed (see his previous posts for reference).
Personally, I don't like this area because I felt it was poorer and it felt shady, in my opinion.
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2489740] If I have to wait too long for the bus, then I'll negotiate a price for the taxi. [/QUOTE]And I missed to spot this other pearl of yours. You come fresh to Medellin at midnight, and you figure yourself negotiating a price with taxi drivers at the airport? In Spanish or English? At the curb, or you wonder to walk out to get a cheaper price? FYI: The fare is fixed flat: 75 k. And also in city, taxis are metered.
My greatest advice to anyone who comes here during these times, make sure you have an exit plan or some way to earn money while you are here. I would hate to have been here for an extended time and couldn't leave other than on a humanitarian flight. I would hate to come here and accidently contract covid and have to wait it out. I have adjusted well and I plan on leaving next month after my last dental appointment. I really had a great plan when I came this time and fortunately everything worked in my favor and I actually made a ton of money by working from Medellin. One perk from renting my apartment for a year is this, next year when I attempt to rent another apartment, I now have a rental history and I will be able to rent another apartment at the Colombian rate, the same guy who rented me this apartment will vouch for my lights, water, gas on my new apartment. So even with the pandemic, I found a way to make the best of the situation.
Centro, the place I love and know like the back of my hand. If any of you want a stern warning, take notice to the post from Tall Man. I absolutely love centro, but I rarely travel to centro anymore. The robberies are at an all time high, Tall Man is not lying. But everyone has to take their own risks. I am able to handle myself with the best of the grimy people, grew up in the slums, but truth is, I do not want to be injured or killed in Centro over $30-20,000 pesos maximum. I have stated many times that crime rate is at an all time high in Centro, but its your life your risk, have at it. I will drop a link to a fight that occurred on Sept 30th in the park with the infamous Mimi. Like Tall Man said, the tourist police are no longer front and center like they used to be and there is no longer a green tent to locate them that was once in front of the Museum De Antioquia. My honest opinion is this, there are not many gringos here and that is less opportunity for the tourist police to rip off gringos, so they just allow the Colombians and Vennies to go at each other like wild savages. The smart gringos are staying away from Centro, so most of the robberies are occurring amongst the locals.
I have friends who are coming down this week, and I can tell you this, they had to set up a PCR covid exam to come to Medellin, I then helped them to setup PCR Exam for them to take before they leave to go back to the airport in Rio Negro, so even on a 7 day trip, they had to have there schedules set to have exams taken to coincide with their flight schedule. I have also set up a date to have my covid exam taken before I leave the country to head back home. So I really don't see how it would be possible to do the 3 day weekends that I was so famous for anymore unless the same day that you arrive you are tested again and have your results in hand on the next two days to board the plane back to the US. I can tell you this, the exam here is about $310,000 pesos and they deliver the results in a 24-48 hour turn around time. The girls are still here, the risks are just a little bit higher, I mostly go out for food and stay in my own lane. You can definitely learn a lot when you are stuck anywhere for 8 months. Check out the video below and it will show 2 girls fighting and not one tourist police in sight for over 3-5 minutes. Everyone be safe! Pollo Negro is out!!
[URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=Rxxw6jASqO8[/URL]
It's true the robberies and petty crimes are way up since the pandemic started. One incident from a few months back that really stands out was when the tourist police confiscated a knife from one of the street hustlers in Botero Plaza. The guy was unusually tall, close to 2 meters, but the kitchen knife the police took from the guy was so long I could not understand how he could carry it around hidden without cutting himself. Most of the girls carry personal protection (razor blades and small knives mostly). We've all read the accounts of guys getting robbed in and around the plaza. So you have to stay alert or stay away.
[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2489806]My greatest advice to anyone who comes here during these times, make sure you have an exit plan or some way to earn money while you are here. I would hate to have been here for an extended time and couldn't leave other than on a humanitarian flight. I would hate to come here and accidently contract covid and have to wait it out. I have adjusted well and I plan on leaving next month after my last dental appointment. I really had a great plan when I came this time and fortunately everything worked in my favor and I actually made a ton of money by working from Medellin. One perk from renting my apartment for a year is this, next year when I attempt to rent another apartment, I now have a rental history and I will be able to rent another apartment at the Colombian rate, the same guy who rented me this apartment will vouch for my lights, water, gas on my new apartment. So even with the pandemic, I found a way to make the best of the situation.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2489647]I don't want to sound like Chicken Little with this warning but rather out of a sense of duty to let all my comrades know to be safe, aware and understand the new risks with visiting centro and the surrounding areas.
And yes I will still visit centro and play albeit with a renewed sense of awareness and a give a shit attitude for anyone and everyone that passes you, they are not your friends rather your a target so I have this mind set when I visit. If anyone invades my personal space, that being about a little more than an arms reach I will become mid evil on their ass. This is a message that I have been sending and handing out and will become, I should say has already become second nature.
Much love and respect to all!
The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a fun time! LOL.
Not!!
Thanks for the update TM.
Think I'll maintain myself in Brazil for the time being.
I love cruising Centro.
Been doing it since New Life was a 1 room brothel! LOL.
I was on full alert pre Covid, now with this report on gang attacks, no tourist police, etc, I'll give Medellin time to simmer down a bit and enjoy the garotas in Rio / SP.
All the feedbacks, reviews have been positive. But will keep the robbery and your oppinion active in my mind. I will have to figure it out. I felt so safe in laureles but wanted be in the poblado area to be exposed to something new. Maybe more taxi less walking in that area. Gringo trooper. I love off brand/generic prescripts. Its perfect for a cheapy charlie like myself lol.
[QUOTE=GringoTrooper;2489802]I know the barrio because I went to a farmacia right there (it was cheap, but they had the worst off brand selection).
Just a heads up, this is where a forum member recently got robbed (see his previous posts for reference).
Personally, I don't like this area because I felt it was poorer and it felt shady, in my opinion.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2489784]I did not recommend you bus into El Centro to catch a taxi to Laureles at 2 AM. My point was that you could get safely to the Nutibara Hotel from the airport, by bus. If you are not going to do the Nutibara, then given what Tall Man posted, I think you should take a taxi directly from the airport. I have not been to Medellin since Covid and I would take Tall Man's "Chicken Little" post to heart. His info is more up-to-date and concerning about the current state in Medellin. I on the other hand am a crazy, sarcastic, attention whoring asshole who probably should have been dead or seriously injured at least half-a-dozen times. And that is just in the past week jajajaja. I'm kidding, but always consider your source. Good Luck. I'd rather be lucky than good, and I have been.[/QUOTE]Thanks Osteoknot for the confidence in my post regards the safety issues, it is unfortunately true. (You too PN).
The original poster also needs to consider that the Hotel Botero has been shuttered closed for many months and so at night that street (Cr 53 a) is now even worse off as there are no lights coming from the hotel or people / hotel staff that are around.
The other consideration is that although buses do use the rear street of the Nutibara hotel (where the Hotel Botero / Cr 50 a dead ends into CL 53) but because of the reduced bus transports there have been much less activity especially at night so this area is dead albeit for the drugged out glue sniffing homeless drug addicts, whom you need to watch out for.
I was last driving my car on this exact street about one week ago at about 11 pm to 12 am and there were no buses parked hence no bus drivers and no activity. I would not even stop my car nor roll down the windows it is that sketchy of a place at night.
Be safe all!
The Tall Man.
[QUOTE=GringoTrooper;2489802]I know the barrio because I went to a farmacia right there (it was cheap, but they had the worst off brand selection).
Just a heads up, this is where a forum member recently got robbed (see his previous posts for reference).
Personally, I don't like this area because I felt it was poorer and it felt shady, in my opinion.[/QUOTE]This barrio actually has become gentrified over the past five years, and the property values had skyrocketed, with a lot of monies going into development before the Pandemic. However, I don't recall seeing any really "seedy" areas in the barrio though with the exception of some older buildings, and don't really consider it poor per se, but it is in Poblado, and technically speaking with some Strata 4 housing it is poor compared to the other barrios in Poblado. As far as getting robbed, that's normal, no different than in the Patio Bonito area, getting robbed is rampant all over Poblado, just not as publicized.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2489812]Sounds like a fun time! LOL.
Not!!
Thanks for the update TM.
Think I'll maintain myself in Brazil for the time being.
I love cruising Centro.
Been doing it since New Life was a 1 room brothel! LOL.
I was on full alert pre Covid, now with this report on gang attacks, no tourist police, etc, I'll give Medellin time to simmer down a bit and enjoy the garotas in Rio / SP.[/QUOTE]Your welcome Balboa, I wish I could say it differently but it is what it is and yes I too hope that it will simmer down with time. I am already mixing up my routine a bit so I will spend more time on other venues (i.e. I just had 2 paisa civies over to my apartment this evening for music, food and drinks, just playing around and may invite one of the two over in the coming weeks for a one on one).
Now a reverse question for you, I visited Rio twice but this was exactly 20 years ago (HELP days) and my two wingmen here in Medellin frequent Brazil often and so over lunch this past week we got onto the subject of making a visit in December, one week in Rio and then one week in SP.
Questions: 1. Where are you at in Brazil? 2. A quick update on the P4 P scene there? 3. The current virus conditions? 4. Any serious safety concerns? 5. Cost of pussy there?
Thanks in advance!
The Tall Man.
Someone posted that a COVID test would be necessary to leave Colombia, I believe it was Pollo Negro. Can someone clarify this? I understand that Panama is requiring this for entry into their Country, along with other Countries, but wasn't aware that this might be a requirement to fly back to the USA, at least right now. I asked COPA about this and they told me to transit thru Panama at the airport no COVID test was necessary.
So the question is, do you need a COVID test to take a departing flight from Colombia to the USA.
Yes or no, and if yes, where did you get this information.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2489799]Ditto that. Santa Fe is the greatest street scene in the world. There are hundreds of chicks over more than 6 square blocks. I can not think of any other place in the world I would rather be on a Friday night.[/QUOTE]What are you smoking Mr. E, Pattya hands down has not hundreds but thousands of chicks in less than 6 square blocks. Oh, never mind, I guess because the women are all sitting in bar stools alongside the roads it's not considered a street scene. Are you saying you would rather be in Bogota on a Friday night versus Pattya?
[QUOTE=Blakman;2489825]All the feedbacks, reviews have been positive. But will keep the robbery and your oppinion active in my mind. I will have to figure it out. I felt so safe in laureles but wanted be in the poblado area to be exposed to something new. Maybe more taxi less walking in that area. Gringo trooper. I love off brand/generic prescripts. Its perfect for a cheapy charlie like myself lol..[/QUOTE]Before the Pandemic, there were lot's of people out on the streets walking and eating at the restaurants. It's close to everything and a small barrio maybe 1/2 kilometer in width that taking a taxi within the barrio itself might not make sense, albeit coming from say Lleras with a Chica in tow it may make sense. You will understand what I'm saying when you arrive.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2489789]I haven't stayed there but I used to frequent several restaurants. Most of those haven't reopened yet. The neighborhood is popular with young foreigners. It looks like what the Colombians call a "traditional barrio" but its proximity to Parque Poblado and Parque Lleras attracts the young Euros, South Americans, and a smattering of US / Canada gringos. You will note the cost of rooms and apartments is much lower there than in the Poblado towers. As always, shop around, ask questions, and try to get as many photos as you can. Don't accept wide angle lens photos or photos taken at an odd angle because it is usually a sign the owner is hiding something.[/QUOTE]The truth is that most photos of apartments for rental are taken with a wide angle lens to make things look much larger than they are. And in Manila there are not a lot of tall buildings to begin with. A bigger concern for people renting apartments which photos's don't reveal are how noisy the apartment is meaning is it directly over a street and whether there is AC which typically will be required on upper units with a lot of windows facing to the west. Asking questions about these things as you suggested is imperative.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2489711]Anyone stayed in this area before. How is it? Feedback welcome.[/QUOTE]I have not stayed there but walked around there some -its some of the flatter part of Poblado so its very walkable. There are a lot of hostels and restaurants in that area. I ate a place called El Güero Taqueria on the northeast corner of Calle 12 and Carrera 43 e, it was decent tacos. There is another Mexican place that some BMs rave about in Manila called Chilaquiles Manila at Calle 12 # 43 D but Google maps says that one is temporarily closed. There is also an Argentinian steak house called Restaurante Malevo on Carrera 43 e just north of Calle 11 a. Never been there either but I rarely hit an Argentinian place that I do not like. Even that cruddy Requismos in Cartagena serves some decent grilled meat with chimi churi. And this place Restaurante Malevo seems to have some decent looking empanadas which I think are probably better than the Colombian ones.
Here is a guy giving a tour of Manila. Its very long but you can jump to like the 15 minute mark because he is walking to there from the Metro for that long. It will give an good feel for what the area looks like. This video is when they were still in partial lockdown so it not very lively there then. Its probably picking up a little now.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-7yVUd4GT0&t=2457s[/URL]
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2489829]So the question is, do you need a COVID test to take a departing flight from Colombia to the USA.
Yes or no, and if yes, where did you get this information.[/QUOTE]No, you do not need another Covid test to leave Colombia for the USA.
The form that you filled out necessary to enter Colombia and was emailed to you will be checked again before you leave for some reason.
I know because I have entered and left Colombia from the USA.
Don't believe everything you read right away. Fish around for confirmation or the truth.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2489829]Someone posted that a COVID test would be necessary to leave Colombia, I believe it was Pollo Negro. Can someone clarify this? I understand that Panama is requiring this for entry into their Country, along with other Countries, but wasn't aware that this might be a requirement to fly back to the USA, at least right now. I asked COPA about this and they told me to transit thru Panama at the airport no COVID test was necessary.
So the question is, do you need a COVID test to take a departing flight from Colombia to the USA.
Yes or no, and if yes, where did you get this information.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2489744]Wow guys, I have to say I'm impressed. I mean, I wonder why you all go to Colombia if you are so scared to get robbed any minute, or stabbed or kidnapped. Stay safe at home in USA, when a guy can buy an AK-47 or any fuckin automatic gun and do a massacre in a school, just because he is annoyed.[/QUOTE]I think you read too much into my posts. You are saying things that I never said.
I am only telling you what to expect so you are ready for it. I said to keep some small bills as tips to get rid of undesirable people in those areas, not weapons. If you want to take bus, use the information provided to prepare for that, otherwise I wouldn't have mentioned it. The other poster confused about taxi that is the reason I replied again to provide information.
Once you become familiar with the whole area, you will see a migration pattern, day and night are completely different.
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2489744]I'm sure I can get a taxi in Medellin ANY time, night and day.[/QUOTE]
If you are smart, you would not pick a location with addicts and where you have to wait a long time to get taxi at midnight. There is a difference in safety level to wait for a taxi at the bus stop and wait at the triangle area where nothing can hide in front of the Nutibara Hotel late at night.
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2489744]It looks like they are all waiting for me at the bus stop, I mean, the main bus stop for the bus coming from the airport. Come on.[/QUOTE]That maybe what is happening because the passengers are with luggage and they help you to get tip whether you like it or not.
Tools required: Pencil & Paper. This works in any country where the letters and characters are the same as English. In other words, it don't work in Tokyo, Russia. . .
Write Address on Piece of Paper (Pitfall: Many Medellin taxi drivers are illiterate).
Say, "Cuanto Es?" (Kwon-toe S?) and motion the pencil and paper to the driver.
If he writes down an acceptable number, get in. If not, you can write down a counter offer or move on to the next driver.
Yes, the taxi's are metered but they can stick to any deal they want. And just about any major American City is worse, but I don't trust meters.
BTW, I have used this method to pay MORE than expected, when I needed to go to my Girlfriend's house and they didn't want to drive all the way to the top of the mountain. I would add another 10 thousand and say "a la cima de la montaa" so they didn't "stop short" and leave me with ten stories of stairs to climb.
Photos are the view from my girlfriend's front door looking down the mountain; the second photo is looking back up at her open front door at night from where the girl was standing in the first pic; and the third photo is the view out her "back door. " Many of the lowest rent homes on the sides of the mountains ironically have these "million dollar" views. There were definitely places on the climb to my girlfriend's house that if you did not watch your step, it could be your last. I never went there drunk or high for fear of falling.
If you guys behave I will post photos of my Number One girl, my girlfriend, maybe jeje.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2489810]The guy was unusually tall, close to 2 meters, but the kitchen knife the police took from the guy was so long I could not understand how he could carry it around hidden without cutting himself. [/QUOTE]That may be the same knife I saw last year when I witnessed a fight just a few feet from me. The group usually are confined in the outer area by the Metro when the tourist police was around. I guess now they roam free.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2489831]What are you smoking Mr. E, Pattya hands down has not hundreds but thousands of chicks in less than 6 square blocks. Oh, never mind, I guess because the women are all sitting in bar stools alongside the roads it's not considered a street scene. [/QUOTE]Exactly. I am talking street walker scene, not bar girl scene. Otherwise of course it would be Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2489835]Before the Pandemic, there were lot's of people out on the streets walking and eating at the restaurants. It's close to everything and a small barrio maybe 1/2 kilometer in width that taking a taxi within the barrio itself might not make sense, albeit coming from say Lleras with a Chica in tow it may make sense. You will understand what I'm saying when you arrive.[/QUOTE]Good feedback from both of you gents. Blackman, you're going to have a great time and we look forward to your report.
That's technically exactly what I do down there, I stay about 5 blocks (sometimes more) away from Calle 10 and the bars, which is close enough to walk, and quiet enough where I can sleep without noise from the Lleras bars.
The reviews were exactly as you described. I am suprised of the mention of majority foreigners. I thought being in the lower parts of poblado was locals. I think I will enjoy it. Certainly will post my experience. Thanks again.
[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2489844]I have not stayed there but walked around there some -its some of the flatter part of Poblado so its very walkable. There are a lot of hostels and restaurants in that area. I ate a place called El Gero Taqueria on the northeast corner of Calle 12 and Carrera 43 e, it was decent tacos. There is another Mexican place that some BMs rave about in Manila called Chilaquiles Manila at Calle 12 # 43 D but Google maps says that one is temporarily closed. There is also an Argentinian steak house called Restaurante Malevo on Carrera 43 e just north of Calle 11 a. Never been there either but I rarely hit an Argentinian place that I do not like. Even that cruddy Requismos in Cartagena serves some decent grilled meat with chimi churi. And this place Restaurante Malevo seems to have some decent looking empanadas which I think are probably better than the Colombian ones.
Here is a guy giving a tour of Manila. Its very long but you can jump to like the 15 minute mark because he is walking to there from the Metro for that long. It will give an good feel for what the area looks like. This video is when they were still in partial lockdown so it not very lively there then. Its probably picking up a little now.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-7yVUd4GT0&t=2457s[/URL][/QUOTE].
Candy House, Calle 11 A # 43 B-27, is an upscale brothel in El Poblado. Nice decor, bar, classy chicas. And I always figure where there's one, there're more.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2489864]The reviews were exactly as you described. I am suprised of the mention of majority foreigners. I thought being in the lower parts of poblado was locals. I think I will enjoy it. Certainly will post my experience. Thanks again..[/QUOTE]The lower parts of Poblado, below Avenida Poblado on both sides of Calle 10 with the Manila barrio to the North and Astorga and the Patio Bonito barrio to the South are inhabited by locals who live there, yet, and prior to the Pandemic, numerous high quality restaurants existed that foreigners would patronize. Unfortunately a lot of the best places are gone. In Manila there was a Mexican place called Chilaqulies that actually made black refried beans and homemade tortillas, mole, carnitas, etc, that no other Mexican place in Medellin had, and they used to be in Patio Bonito, moved to Manila, and are now gone but have a restaraunt I think in Envigado. I would eat there twice a week as it was the best Mexican food around. In Astorga they had a five star restaurant called BARCAL. I enjoyed dinig there on a few occasions albeit it was very expensive, and it's gone now as well. For good steaks, forget Malevo in Manila if still open, terrible meat, yet try Cambiloche in Patio Bonito if still open. For good Italian there's Graspa de UVA in Astorga and hopefully they haven't closed. My point here is that there are a lot of great places to eat besides around LLeras which a lot of people patronize and I can't recommend, not a single one of them, however in and around Provenza there's some great places like Taboon, a middle eastern place with Colombain belly dancers, and they are open!
Anyone notice Spirit Airlines canceled your future trip reservations?. I'm heading down in November and out if the blue my flight just got canceled. I'm meeting a few friends from different cities / states in the US. DC, , Virgin Islands etc etc. All of our flights were nixed. If you go on the sight it says no availability until Nov 19.
I contacted Spirit because I figured it might of had something to do with the fact I payed $90 for my flight. Maybe due to demand the bumped us all for a higher price ticket buyer.
Hahah.
Here's the skinny: Basically the flight schedules changed. The earliest flight that lands in FLL by Spirit per the rep has changed to 2 pm. So you would miss that 10:30 am flight that heads to Colombia. The work around is call the regular number. You will have a credit tied to your old booking number. Request a $50 voucher for your inconvenience. Then have them schedule your flight from FLL to MDE. Flights like $80 as if today for me. Book your own ticket separate to get you down to FLL. I got a $60 rt flight with another economy line. That would get me there by 8:05 am which is more than enough time to catch that now 11 am flight to MDE or CTG. I used the rest of the credit to bump up to the big comfy seats LOL. With a few dollars credit to spare for later. I am actually now flying a day before so I can get my Video test done there in FLL at that place mentioned in the board. Results in 12 to WR HOURS (PCR). I contacted them and they desk assured me the results would be in the lab and results back same night as long as I'm there by 2 pm. Hope this helps anyone that recently received a spirit cancellation. MDE flights are still happening. Just need a little extra effort. Good luck. Don't let the connection times be your demise. I wish they would have told me all this in the email besides a email saying we canceled your flight and you now have a credit for future bookings after Nov 19 LOL. Supposedly that is just the day the schedules will resync for connections.
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2489724]It's not a test you do at home: they send you a kit to take the samples, you send back to the lab. You receive the result and certificate COVID-19 Fit for Flight, 2 days later. You can't do a PCR test at home, because PCR stands for Polymerase Chain Reaction, a technique invented by Kary Mullis, who got the Nobel prize for that. It amplifies the segments of DNA. You need special equipment to perform PCR, only a lab can do that.[/QUOTE]Nooooooot true I have a PCR test sitting on my lap as we speak. Sending it back Monday morning and results are expected 2 day turn around. Visit the site Pixel by Lab Corp for more details. Also it's covered by insurance. $0 out of pocket. There are about 9 different sites that offer this service. This was the only one that didn't require you to pay for the kit and took insurance.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2489850]Don't believe everything you read right away. Fish around for confirmation or the truth.
.[/QUOTE]If your flying within Colombia to San Andres and some other smaller airports from Colombia you will need a test.
[URL]https://www.medellinherald.com/ln/item/1025-colombia-updates-covid-19-restrictions-for-domestic-flights-%E2%80%98pilot%E2%80%99-international-flights-in-september-will-require-covid-19-tests[/URL]
The reasoning here is that there are many areas of Colombia, Usually the smaller remote areas that have no or very little cases of covid to keep them safe from invection.
Hi guys,
I was used to go to Spanish sites to speak about these wonderful ladies. I will be ready to onboard at the end of October (of course if they open flights with Europe).
I prepared 48 h at my arrival of full sex with dozens of escorts. But was also looking to get info about cheap option as it was in Conejitas / la Barra / Maracaibo and also more expensive places like San Diego / Fase 2 clubs.
Do any of you know if those clubs are now open. I prefer way more to go in a club, look at the products and select what I like rather than direct escort.
I understood in other Spanish sites that Centro clubs will normally open in mid November but who knows. Was looking to know if someone got to fase 2 ultimately?
How things are going currently?
Nb: I lived few years in Medellin and got my novia there. But looking to examine new products when I will be.
I only look to full culonas operadas girls men, if you know some girls, do not hesitate to give me the contact.
Moreover if Fase 2 is open, why not go in a group there. Really want to fuck something, more than 6 months of wait for that moment LOL, was working hard to make money and spend it over there.
I don't find Manila seedy at all. I do understand how it could seem that way if the baseline perspective is the gated Poblado tower blocks and punter clubhpuses. As popular as it is with young foretgners, Manila is more similar to how most Colombians live. The gentrification Sirfer mentioned is taking place in several other barrios. Even La Candelaria is seeing a bit of it. Buenos Aires has been on the come up since the tranvía was put into operation. Pollo Negro's arrival is proof positive it is gentrified. Milagro and Boston border it. Those barrios are solidly bottom of the barrel.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2489827]This barrio actually has become gentrified over the past five years, and the property values had skyrocketed, with a lot of monies going into development before the Pandemic. However, I don't recall seeing any really "seedy" areas in the barrio though with the exception of some older buildings, and don't really consider it poor per se, but it is in Poblado, and technically speaking with some Strata 4 housing it is poor compared to the other barrios in Poblado. As far as getting robbed, that's normal, no different than in the Patio Bonito area, getting robbed is rampant all over Poblado, just not as publicized.[/QUOTE]
Exactly the information I was looking before travelling mate.
So fase 2 closed but La Isla open?
I was more a centro guy going to conejitas mainly but will look to get Barbie silicon girls, so la isla could be better option.
Do you have an idea of prices?
1. price of Ron botella.
2. price of girls?
3. how much girls you heard are in la isla currently?
Trip planned for October 22nd but still flights close between Europe and Colombia, so quite desperate with the idea to come at the soonest to enjoy a bit.
Will surely take an hotel in Sudamericana to have quick access to laureless / estadio why el centro.
[QUOTE=Vitrea;2488072]Like most of you here, I was desperate to get back to MDE. I booked and they cancelled multiple flights. I was getting frustrated and booked a trip to GDL Mexico. Two days before travel, September 21 opening was confirmed. I could not find a ticket to MDE so I booked through BOG but on the day of flight one ticket opened up on Spirit (X 4 the original ticket price plus change fees) but will all COVID hassle I figured I would rather go direct to MDE and I am glad I did. It has already been well described here what is needed to get into CO so I won't rehash. It was smooth and no issues with migration. *Just do your online registration 24 hours before and don't wait till last minute. *.
Life is slow but not dead. I actually enjoyed the reduced traffic. Many restaurants are closed but there are enough open and some bars are open. I did not venture out to bars but spent almost every evening with my dates in the hotel roof top bar, which was awesome. I realized how much I missed the lovely weather, city views and sharing music / Gin and tonics with sweet paisas before getting into a hot jacuzzi couple of floors down or the pool. I split my stay between a house with a three bedroom unit and private heated pool (with two other friends) and a new modern hotel in the heart of Provenza with amazing views (alone). I find very few Provenza options with views so I am happy to find this..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2489933]If your flying within Colombia to San Andres and some other smaller airports from Colombia you will need a test.
[URL]https://www.medellinherald.com/ln/item/1025-colombia-updates-covid-19-restrictions-for-domestic-flights-%E2%80%98pilot%E2%80%99-international-flights-in-september-will-require-covid-19-tests[/URL]
The reasoning here is that there are many areas of Colombia, Usually the smaller remote areas that have no or very little cases of covid to keep them safe from invection.[/QUOTE]In addition to the PCR test for entry, does anyone know if you have to get a separate Covid test to exit Colombia to go back to the US?
[QUOTE=Blakman;2489864]The reviews were exactly as you described. I am suprised of the mention of majority foreigners. I thought being in the lower parts of poblado was locals. I think I will enjoy it. Certainly will post my experience. Thanks again.
.[/QUOTE]FWIW I know a Colombian-American (that grew up in So. Cal.) who is a fully bi-lingual business person. 10 years in MDE. Manila is his barrio of choice for home and office.
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2489933]If your flying within Colombia to San Andres and some other smaller airports from Colombia you will need a test.
[URL]https://www.medellinherald.com/ln/item/1025-colombia-updates-covid-19-restrictions-for-domestic-flights-%E2%80%98pilot%E2%80%99-international-flights-in-september-will-require-covid-19-tests[/URL]
The reasoning here is that there are many areas of Colombia, Usually the smaller remote areas that have no or very little cases of covid to keep them safe from invection.[/QUOTE]I think this recently changed for flights to San Andres.
Anyone seen Preggos in El Centro\Parque Botero? I had a thing for them in Asia and could always find them among the SW's. Even had a few in the USA (including once that produced so much milk she was filling bottles in under a minute in front of me LOL).
Showdown.
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2489826]Thanks Osteoknot for the confidence in my post regards the safety issues, it is unfortunately true. (You too PN).
The original poster also needs to consider that the Hotel Botero has been shuttered closed for many months and so at night that street (Cr 53 a) is now even worse off as there are no lights coming from the hotel or people / hotel staff that are around.
The other consideration is that although buses do use the rear street of the Nutibara hotel (where the Hotel Botero / Cr 50 a dead ends into CL 53) but because of the reduced bus transports there have been much less activity especially at night so this area is dead albeit for the drugged out glue sniffing homeless drug addicts, whom you need to watch out for.
I was last driving my car on this exact street about one week ago at about 11 pm to 12 am and there were no buses parked hence no bus drivers and no activity. I would not even stop my car nor roll down the windows it is that sketchy of a place at night.
Be safe all!
The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]Has probably become another casualty.
I'm always up for a gratuitous sex foto. That's what this site is all about, after all. Same girl, same Hotel Botero jajaja.
[QUOTE=Showdown;2490044]Anyone seen Preggos in El Centro\Parque Botero? I had a thing for them in Asia and could always find them among the SW's. Even had a few in the USA (including once that produced so much milk she was filling bottles in under a minute in front of me LOL).
Showdown.[/QUOTE]Yes. Often.
I'm planning my first trip back to medellin since Covid and I can't wait to get there. I've been holding myself over in Tijuana but it just isn't the same haha. I know this trip to medellin is going to be a lot different than previous ones. I got a solid list of fb chicas I can't wait to try and some low key casas. I was wondering if anyone knew when the bigger casas and the clubs like fase dos will open again.
Thanks,
NAK.
Just a realization that could be a problem with connecting flights.
[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2489899]Anyone notice Spirit Airlines canceled your future trip reservations?. I'm heading down in November and out if the blue my flight just got canceled. I'm meeting a few friends from different cities / states in the US. DC, , Virgin Islands etc etc. All of our flights were nixed. If you go on the sight it says no availability until Nov 19.
I contacted Spirit because I figured it might of had something to do with the fact I payed $90 for my flight. Maybe due to demand the bumped us all for a higher price ticket buyer.
Hahah.
Here's the skinny: Basically the flight schedules changed. The earliest flight that lands in FLL by Spirit per the rep has changed to 2 pm. So you would miss that 10:30 am flight that heads to Colombia. The work around is call the regular number. You will have a credit tied to your old booking number. Request a $50 voucher for your inconvenience. Then have them schedule your flight from FLL to MDE. Flights like $80 as if today for me. Book your own ticket separate to get you down to FLL. I got a $60 rt flight with another economy line. That would get me there by 8:05 am which is more than enough time to catch that now 11 am flight to MDE or CTG. I used the rest of the credit to bump up to the big comfy seats LOL. With a few dollars credit to spare for later. I am actually now flying a day before so I can get my Video test done there in FLL at that place mentioned in the board. Results in 12 to WR HOURS (PCR). I contacted them and they desk assured me the results would be in the lab and results back same night as long as I'm there by 2 pm. Hope this helps anyone that recently received a spirit cancellation. MDE flights are still happening. Just need a little extra effort. Good luck. Don't let the connection times be your demise. I wish they would have told me all this in the email besides a email saying we canceled your flight and you now have a credit for future bookings after Nov 19 LOL. Supposedly that is just the day the schedules will resync for connections.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Blakman;2490096]Just a realization that could be a problem with connecting flights.
.[/QUOTE]I've noticed that almost all of the flights from my part of the USA that are reasonable ie less than $500 are all with Spirit. And that's an airline I always avoided. Now I am reconsidering my trip as I do not want to be cancelled for an international flight.
Showdown.
[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2490063]Yes. Often.[/QUOTE]And I should have asked the obvious question-they are avaliable correct? I've read alot of post where families are there (mom and daughters etc) and the last thing I want to do is approach a prego and her family gets angry. I'm not in the disrespect business.
And is everyone taking these girls back to their hotel rooms? I have not seen anyone mention local hotels like Santa Fe in Bogata.
Showdown.
FYI. F'in Copa cancelled my 10/21 flight and did not notify me. I learned today that my ex-wife's mother's flight from Bogota to Orlando on 10/14 had been cancelled. So I decided I should investigate my flight from Orlando to MDE on 10/21. After 30 minutes on hold, the lady confirmed that my flight had been cancelled and that I could re-book for 10/23 (which I could not due). No e-mail notification. So good things I was proactive and checked. Booked myself on Spirit out of Orlando through FLL.
So. Warning. If you have reservations to go to MDE on Copa, you might want to confirm.
At this point I have three cancelled reservations on Copa (one for SJO and two for MDE). I hope I can use them in 2021. It's too bad. I like Copa. I like that they give you food on the flight. I like that they do not charge your for bags. I like their customer service people. But I hate all of the cancellation (although some not their fault) and the LACK of notification of cancelation.
No. You would think there was no pandemic at all! Once I got into the MDE airport, no one asked me about temperature, symptoms, anything. When I got into FLL, I walked off the plane, got my bag, and left the airport. Absolutely no requirements or checks.
[QUOTE=Chb1234;2489995]In addition to the PCR test for entry, does anyone know if you have to get a separate Covid test to exit Colombia to go back to the US?[/QUOTE]
My initial flight for the 19th with Copa was cancelled. They had to change morning flight to late night to assure connection. I was told no refund. Only option is voucher.
[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2490103]FYI. F'in Copa cancelled my 10/21 flight and did not notify me. I learned today that my ex-wife's mother's flight from Bogota to Orlando on 10/14 had been cancelled. So I decided I should investigate my flight from Orlando to MDE on 10/21. After 30 minutes on hold, the lady confirmed that my flight had been cancelled and that I could re-book for 10/23 (which I could not due). No e-mail notification. So good things I was proactive and checked. Booked myself on Spirit out of Orlando through FLL.
So. Warning. If you have reservations to go to MDE on Copa, you might want to confirm.
At this point I have three cancelled reservations on Copa (one for SJO and two for MDE). I hope I can use them in 2021. It's too bad. I like Copa. I like that they give you food on the flight. I like that they do not charge your for bags. I like their customer service people. But I hate all of the cancellation (although some not their fault) and the LACK of notification of cancelation.[/QUOTE]
Certainly will look into it. Hope to see hot honeys
[QUOTE=Tomcat88;2489865]Candy House, Calle 11 A # 43 B-27, is an upscale brothel in El Poblado. Nice decor, bar, classy chicas. And I always figure where there's one, there're more.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Showdown;2490099]And I should have asked the obvious question-they are avaliable correct? I've read alot of post where families are there (mom and daughters etc) and the last thing I want to do is approach a prego and her family gets angry. I'm not in the disrespect business.
And is everyone taking these girls back to their hotel rooms? I have not seen anyone mention local hotels like Santa Fe in Bogata.
Showdown.[/QUOTE]Should be obvious if they are working, either leaning against the wall, standing on the corner or in the doorway to the stairs to the short term hotel. I always do the short term hotel they take you to 1st for a test ride, no sense sleeping them back to my room if they aren't very fun in bed.
You can dispute the credit card charge to get a refund.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2490118]My initial flight for the 19th with Copa was cancelled. They had to change morning flight to late night to assure connection. I was told no refund. Only option is voucher.[/QUOTE]
Information gather from map quest.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2490120]Certainly will look into it. Hope to see hot honeys
.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2490106]No. You would think there was no pandemic at all! Once I got into the MDE airport, no one asked me about temperature, symptoms, anything. When I got into FLL, I walked off the plane, got my bag, and left the airport. Absolutely no requirements or checks.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info!
[QUOTE=Turgid;2485057]I knew it as simply Paradiso. I was hoping against hope. You could have a drink at the bar and chill. They had the hottest chicas. I met a 9 there in one of my last trips of which I reported. Many other top notch which I didn't report. Very bad news for me that they're closed.[/QUOTE]You are correct, an wonderful place. Hope they find a new venue and reopen.
[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2489701]I respect the advice of my fellow mongers but I double down on my advice and speak from direct experience. I lived on that street for more than 4 months, in Hotel Botero, an apartment, and I stayed at the Nutibara as well. The corner where the bus stops is safe because of the bus workers and the 24-hour caf there is well lit, and there are regular people inside. The owner shoos away the riff-raff. Sit down, grab a bite, and they will help you if you need it. You cross the street and you are at the Nutibara but you have to walk around the closest corner to get to the front entrance that time of night. The sidewalk will take you right to the front door. As long as you don't wander you will be fine. There are taxi cabs at the caf corner where the bus lets you off and if you are so inclined, you could pay the minimum taxi fare, I think it's 3000 (less than $1) to drive you around the building to the front door of the Nutibara. Don't head off in the wrong direction. At that time of night, toting luggage would make you a target for getting "rolled" by the Venezuelan hoods and trannies who control a few blocks over from the Nutibara.
By the time I left El Centro I could walk into the heart of the beast from Botero in the opposite direction of the Nutibara to visit two bisexual female Venezuelan roommates who were friends of mine. Everyone left me alone because I was known by then, and protected by the Venezuelan muscle. My point is maybe I am a little crazy and cavalier with my advice and you should take that into account. I've been to all 7 continents and mongored on six of them (there are no sex workers on Antarctica) and I never had a lick of trouble. Now that I think about it, maybe you should do the opposite of what I say, jjajajajaja I have been incredibly lucky, all my life..[/QUOTE]Just a note: Taxi meters start at a minimum, which I believe is currently 3400 COP. That is not the minimum fare. Last I knew, I believe minimum fare was 5500 COP.
If the guy is staying in Laureles and arriving at midnight, his best bet is to take a taxi. I don't know what the rate is this year, it was 75 k, but it's a set rate. There's a large sign on the outside of the terminal with the taxi rates to different cities.
That's not to say a taxi driver won't try to charge you more. Verify the price before you get in the taxi.
One other thing, or maybe 2. There are 2 buses. One goes to El Centro, and the other goes to Centro Comercial San Diego. The buses don't run on a schedule. They leave the airport when the bus is full.
[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2489911]Nooooooot true I have a PCR test sitting on my lap as we speak. Sending it back Monday morning and results are expected 2 day turn around. Visit the site Pixel by Lab Corp for more details. Also it's covered by insurance. $0 out of pocket. There are about 9 different sites that offer this service. This was the only one that didn't require you to pay for the kit and took insurance.[/QUOTE]Actually you're both right (or wrong).
The analysis can only be done at a lab with the appropriate equipment, but they will send you the test kit, for you to mail to the lab.
[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2490103]FYI. F'in Copa cancelled my 10/21 flight and did not notify me. I learned today that my ex-wife's mother's flight from Bogota to Orlando on 10/14 had been cancelled. So I decided I should investigate my flight from Orlando to MDE on 10/21. After 30 minutes on hold, the lady confirmed that my flight had been cancelled and that I could re-book for 10/23 (which I could not due). No e-mail notification. So good things I was proactive and checked. Booked myself on Spirit out of Orlando through FLL.
So. Warning. If you have reservations to go to MDE on Copa, you might want to confirm.
At this point I have three cancelled reservations on Copa (one for SJO and two for MDE). I hope I can use them in 2021. It's too bad. I like Copa. I like that they give you food on the flight. I like that they do not charge your for bags. I like their customer service people. But I hate all of the cancellation (although some not their fault) and the LACK of notification of cancelation.[/QUOTE]Surprised to hear about Copa since they are always so dependable from my experiences (with Covid, who knows).
Is it possible because CDC requires all travel through particular airports with any CDC Level 3 countries and Orlando isn't one of airport at this time?
[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2490068] I was wondering if anyone knew when the bigger casas and the clubs like fase dos will open again.
Thanks,
NAK.[/QUOTE]There was recent report that La Isla was opened.
[QUOTE=Tomcat88;2489865]Candy House, Calle 11 A # 43 B-27, is an upscale brothel in El Poblado. Nice decor, bar, classy chicas. And I always figure where there's one, there're more.[/QUOTE]Did not know that, good info. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Sandymnn;2490167]You are correct, an wonderful place. Hope they find a new venue and reopen.[/QUOTE]I went there one time. Nothing really tickled my fancy there, so I left. The talent must have been occupied or maybe it was an off day. Only reason I remember that place is because upon leaving, there was a large uncovered hole in the sidewalk and I fell and ate it pretty hard. LOL.
Copa has been anything but dependable of late. Part of that is because of the Panamanian government. But there is no excuse for not sending notice of cancelation as soon as it happens. I wonder if they would have ever sent me notice? And if so, would it have been too late to re-schedule on another airline.
I do not think it is an issue with the airport, as they offered to re-book me on the same flights two days later, but I can't do it.
[QUOTE=OldBelly69;2490183]Surprised to hear about Copa since they are always so dependable from my experiences (with Covid, who knows).
Is it possible because CDC requires all travel through particular airports with any CDC Level 3 countries and Orlando isn't one of airport at this time?[/QUOTE]
Probably is. While I do not go there (only went once and hated it), I can see the spotlight shining from La Islan from my terraza in Laureles and I saw it on my last trip.
[QUOTE=OldBelly69;2490185]There was recent report that La Isla was opened.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2490198]Copa has been anything but dependable of late. Part of that is because of the Panamanian government. But there is no excuse for not sending notice of cancelation as soon as it happens. I wonder if they would have ever sent me notice? And if so, would it have been too late to re-schedule on another airline.
I do not think it is an issue with the airport, as they offered to re-book me on the same flights two days later, but I can't do it.[/QUOTE]Interesting I have a flight from Panama City to Medellin on the 14th which I may be cancelling, and I have the COPA App on my phone and just checked it and everything is a go. Maybe I need to call them and complain on everyone's behalf. I think the reason my flight hasn't been cancelled is because it's only the second flight into Medellin from PTY with the first one on the 12th. They sent me a million E mails three weeks ago announcing this.
Maybe the flights for the next week are empty. That's a fucked up deal for anyone flying to Panama City on another airline. I have a COPA flight from LAX to PTY with the connection to MDE so I'm sure they would of contacted me by now if they were going to cancel the the second leg of the trip but to play it safe I will check. I'm not aware of any other carriers out of PTY to MDE as that is solely COPA's route I believe, but could be wrong maybe LATAM has flights?
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2490206]Interesting I have a flight from Panama City to Medellin on the 14th which I may be cancelling, and I have the COPA App on my phone and just checked it and everything is a go. Maybe I need to call them and complain on everyone's behalf. I think the reason my flight hasn't been cancelled is because it's only the second flight into Medellin from PTY with the first one on the 12th. They sent me a million E mails three weeks ago announcing this.
Maybe the flights for the next week are empty. That's a fucked up deal for anyone flying to Panama City on another airline. I have a COPA flight from LAX to PTY with the connection to MDE so I'm sure they would of contacted me by now if they were going to cancel the the second leg of the trip but to play it safe I will check. I'm not aware of any other carriers out of PTY to MDE as that is solely COPA's route I believe, but could be wrong maybe LATAM has flights?[/QUOTE]So I log into my account with COPA and type in my Confirmation number for my flight on the 14th and guess what, there's no flight. I then check my mileage account and at least the bastards put the 35,000 miles I used back into my account so hopefully I will get my $ 26 in tax paid back. So then I check on Kayak for that date and future dates and no more COPA, however the good news is that now I can fly JETBLUE from LAX thru Florida and they have flights that leave at 9:30 PM arriving in Medellin at 9:30 AM so actually better than COPA but no business class. So I'm bummed out but will go in a few weeks.
The bastards didn't even send an E mail, and if it wasn't for the other posters I may have gotten the COVID test and then subsequently find out afterwards it was a no go.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2490206]Interesting I have a flight from Panama City to Medellin on the 14th which I may be cancelling, and I have the COPA App on my phone and just checked it and everything is a go. Maybe I need to call them and complain on everyone's behalf. I think the reason my flight hasn't been cancelled is because it's only the second flight into Medellin from PTY with the first one on the 12th. They sent me a million E mails three weeks ago announcing this.
Maybe the flights for the next week are empty. That's a fucked up deal for anyone flying to Panama City on another airline. I have a COPA flight from LAX to PTY with the connection to MDE so I'm sure they would of contacted me by now if they were going to cancel the the second leg of the trip but to play it safe I will check. I'm not aware of any other carriers out of PTY to MDE as that is solely COPA's route I believe, but could be wrong maybe LATAM has flights?[/QUOTE]Something strange is going on with Copa's website. I am booked for a flight from Orlando to Medellin on Oct 16. Earlier today, they showed no flights available until Oct 23. Now they show a flight on the 16th and the 19th, but only one seat available each day. I looked at seat selection on the 16th and there are sections of the plane with all the seats available. The flight from PTY to MDE on the 16th is more than half filled. I tried calling them tonight before they closed. The recording said there is a minimum 30 minutes delay to speak to someone. I looked at "Manage your booking" and everything is normal with the flight. In "Upcoming available flights" it shows the next scheduled flight from Orlando to Medellin is Oct 27. I will try to call tomorrow after they open to see what they tell me. I really don't want to fly Spirit, but that is the only airline flying from Orlando with one stop. Others take more than 20 hours because of multiple stops.
I went to the Eros spa / casa yesterday. I'm was a bit disappointed by the experience. I had been in communication with the "manager" of the place through whatsapp. He had sent me a bunch of pictures of the girls working there. They looked fantastic. Its been a while since mr willie's had any action and I was excited. I asked for only the girls without any kids. I'd rather not risk any baby damage or stretchy tits if I don't have to. He sent me a list of only the chicas without babies and I asked about 3 of them. Carolina, Hanna and Violeta. I figured I would go there and look at the lineup and pick the one that looked the best.
The casa is located in an "apartahotel" in the la castellana district of Medellin. When I arrived the doorman asked me what apartment I wanted to go to. I had no idea. I whatsapped the manager saying I was there but I couldn't go in because I didn't have an apartment number. The doorman asked me for who I was there to see. I just spouted out the first name that came to mind: Violeta. After a few minutes of waiting for a response from the manager, the doorman got off the phone and said its apartment 501 and let me in.
I could here music while still in the elevator. I got to the 5th floor, a door immediately to the left opened and 5 girls emerged on their way out. They were heading to the floor below for some reason. I think the spa may be split between several different floors.
I can't remember if any of the girls coming out has masks, but the next girl came that come out greeted me and wore a mask. She sprayed my hands with some kind of disinfectant and sprayed my shoes as well. I don't really understand the shoe spraying. The spray didn't even cover my entire shoes. It seemed to only matter that she at least hit both shoes.
I was expecting to be seated in the front room and then shown a lineup but she instead brought me directly to the rear and into a room. She told me she herself was violeta. I was a bit disappointed becuase violeta in real life had a bigger gut than her picture let on. In disbelief I opened up my phone to check the picture again. She pulled down her mask to show me that indeed she was violeta. Violeta had a nice cute face, but her body was only okay. But again, it'd been over 6 months, so I was just happy to be there.
She asked for my payment. 60 k for the hour. I gave it to her and she left for a few minutes to do whatever it is they do. I sat down and took off my shoes and made myself comfortable. The room was small, with a fan, no aircon, but medellin has been cold recently, so no aircon needed. I had been in worse rooms before, this wasn't too bad. There was a sign on the wall about some of the rules. Service includes 2 shots. Time begins when the girl receives the payment. A bunch of other stuff about keeping safe. It might have said a few things about no oral sex, and always wearing a mouth cover.
Violeta came back to the room with a towel and a small bar of soap and insisted that I shower before the session start. She was not the friendly, but not unfriendly. Very business like. She led me a few doors down to a small but pretty clean bathroom with a shower. I washed myself up while she waited in the room. When I returned to the room she was playing with her phone. I had just the towel around me. She proceeded to undress and began the usual pleasantries. Where you from, how long are you staying. Are you here for vacation? The whole time she wore her facemask. So there I am talking to this naked girl with an okay body and a cute face, but she's wearing her damn mask which covers the best part of her. She had small be cup breasts, which hung nicely off her body. A nice set of hips rounded out her figure, but she lacked the most important part, a round bottom. But anyways, it had been a while, and I was happy to be there. I asked her if she was going to wear the mask the whole time. She said yes for safety, I could choose not to wear a mask but she needed to always wear the mask. The irony is, that the mask is not some sort of medical mask with any sufficient filtering, its just some cloth mask, so in theory it would be more to protect me than to protect her. Additionally, she wasn't even covering her nose with her mask!
So I was pretty sure I wasn't going to get any oral. Is it possible to get oral with a mask? LOL.
Well it had been a while and I did some things I usually don't do. I had a pussy meal and ate away. Smelled pretty good. I had forgotten how good the smell can be. She was nice and clean shaven on the outside and looked nice. She was one of those girls with a hidden clit. Hard to find. Some girls have these big mini penis clits. She had a tiny, you will never find me clit.
After about 5 minutes, I asked for a condom which she had already opened and ready. She told me to put it in carefully. I went in slowly. She was so nice and warm inside. Did missionary for a while before she complained about some pain. I was a bit suprised, I'm not particularly big. But I was hard as a rock. So I pulled her up and onto me while I laid on my back. She rode me and started to moan. If only I could see her face! I cupped her tits as she rode me. She then pulled my head towards her breasts and told me to suck on them. I sucked as she came. Flipped her over for some doggie action, but didn't get very far before she complained again and we went back to missionary. I pumped away until I came. Exhausted I rolled over and just lay down for a few minutes to catch my breath.
I cleaned off with some wipes that she had on hand before grabbing the towel and taking an after sex shower.
Overall, it was a mediocre first experience after a long time off. The mask really kills it for me. I get a kick out of seeing a girls expressions as you eat her out or pound away at her. I don't think I will be doing any more casas here from now on.
My ratings for Violeta:
Face: 8. 5.
Body: 6.
Attitude: 6 - although she was much more friendly at the end. I think maybe she realized I wasn't going to go for a 2nd shot?
WIP: No. Although there are some other cuties, but who cares if they're cute if they're wearing masks.
I called Copa this morning. Was on hold for 35 minutes. The agent told me my flight on the 16th is still scheduled. I asked about their website stating that the next scheduled flight is Oct 27, and he said maybe all the prior flights are completely booked. I then called my credit card company because I had made the reservation through them. They use Expedia Travel. The agent told me the flight still showed normal operation. He said he also looked at the system travel agents have with the airlines and it shows the flight still scheduled. Probably I will find out next week that the flight is cancelled. Copa is obviously having cash flow problems and is holding on to any cash they get through selling tickets for flights that don't exist. Even the Expedia agent said Copa was very slow processing refunds.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2490233]Something strange is going on with Copa's website. I am booked for a flight from Orlando to Medellin on Oct 16. Earlier today, they showed no flights available until Oct 23. Now they show a flight on the 16th and the 19th, but only one seat available each day. I looked at seat selection on the 16th and there are sections of the plane with all the seats available. The flight from PTY to MDE on the 16th is more than half filled. I tried calling them tonight before they closed. The recording said there is a minimum 30 minutes delay to speak to someone. I looked at "Manage your booking" and everything is normal with the flight. In "Upcoming available flights" it shows the next scheduled flight from Orlando to Medellin is Oct 27. I will try to call tomorrow after they open to see what they tell me. I really don't want to fly Spirit, but that is the only airline flying from Orlando with one stop. Others take more than 20 hours because of multiple stops.[/QUOTE]Perhaps distancing on the flights. I noticed Avianca flights sold out / disappeared quickly but seats available on the map.
Here's a pic of Violeta.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2490233]Something strange is going on with Copa's website. I am booked for a flight from Orlando to Medellin on Oct 16. Earlier today, they showed no flights available until Oct 23. Now they show a flight on the 16th and the 19th, but only one seat available each day. I looked at seat selection on the 16th and there are sections of the plane with all the seats available. The flight from PTY to MDE on the 16th is more than half filled. I tried calling them tonight before they closed. The recording said there is a minimum 30 minutes delay to speak to someone. I looked at "Manage your booking" and everything is normal with the flight. In "Upcoming available flights" it shows the next scheduled flight from Orlando to Medellin is Oct 27. I will try to call tomorrow after they open to see what they tell me. I really don't want to fly Spirit, but that is the only airline flying from Orlando with one stop. Others take more than 20 hours because of multiple stops.[/QUOTE]My experience with COPA had been very good for the past 10 years. Took more flights from LAX to both Bogota and Medellin than I can count also to / from Cuba, the Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Brazil and of course Panama. I would not fly or even try any other airline but now the website, which use to be almost effortless to schedule and purchase a flight, is crap and their timeliness / cancelled flights is problematic.
I did have a flight scheduled for this past April back to LAX for some business concerns which was obviously cancelled and was issued an e-mail voucher for a future flight however I will not return to LAX for just about any reason now as I resolved my business issues.
I hope they get their shit together as I have hundreds of thousands of COPA miles stored up.
The Tall Man.
I would have had a different conversation with my credit card company.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2490348]I called Copa this morning. Was on hold for 35 minutes. The agent told me my flight on the 16th is still scheduled. I asked about their website stating that the next scheduled flight is Oct 27, and he said maybe all the prior flights are completely booked. I then called my credit card company because I had made the reservation through them. They use Expedia Travel. The agent told me the flight still showed normal operation. He said he also looked at the system travel agents have with the airlines and it shows the flight still scheduled. Probably I will find out next week that the flight is cancelled. Copa is obviously having cash flow problems and is holding on to any cash they get through selling tickets for flights that don't exist. Even the Expedia agent said Copa was very slow processing refunds.[/QUOTE]
Eros / La Castellana was reported on extensively during the pandemic by me, Blakman and others. The girls will remove their masks of you ask them. The whatsapp back and forth is not necessary but some guys like it to hype the anticipation. You can also have a lineup if you ask for it. They do the who are you hear to see to limit traffic in the hallways. It is a single casa that operates on several floors and under several names. Luna Lunera was in there before they moved to Los Colores and later reopened the HQ on la 33. RTFF there is good information here.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2490345]I went to the Eros spa / casa yesterday. I'm was a bit disappointed by the experience. I had been in communication with the "manager" of the place through whatsapp. He had sent me a bunch of pictures of the girls working there. They looked fantastic. Its been a while since mr willie's had any action and I was excited. I asked for only the girls without any kids. I'd rather not risk any baby damage or stretchy tits if I don't have to. He sent me a list of only the chicas without babies and I asked about 3 of them. Carolina, Hanna and Violeta. I figured I would go there and look at the lineup and pick the one that looked the best.
The casa is located in an "apartahotel" in the la castellana district of Medellin. When I arrived the doorman asked me what apartment I wanted to go to. I had no idea. I whatsapped the manager saying I was there but I couldn't go in because I didn't have an apartment number. The doorman asked me for who I was there to see. I just spouted out the first name that came to mind: Violeta. After a few minutes of waiting for a response from the manager, the doorman got off the phone and said its apartment 501 and let me in.
I could here music while still in the elevator. I got to the 5th floor, a door immediately to the left opened and 5 girls emerged on their way out. They were heading to the floor below for some reason. I think the spa may be split between several different floors.
I can't remember if any of the girls coming out has masks, but the next girl came that come out greeted me and wore a mask. She sprayed my hands with some kind of disinfectant and sprayed my shoes as well. I don't really understand the shoe spraying. The spray didn't even cover my entire shoes. It seemed to only matter that she at least hit both shoes..[/QUOTE]
The address of the place I believe is 34 a-15 around by 80. I enjoyed it before covid protocol. Cheap and good performances. But Covid safety measures made me not go there anymore. The experience was not enjoyable at all. Theres a girl jimena and julieta I recommend but I don't know how the performance would be with Covid in the way.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2490345]I went to the Eros spa / casa yesterday. I'm was a bit disappointed by the experience. I had been in communication with the "manager" of the place through whatsapp. He had sent me a bunch of pictures of the girls working there. They looked fantastic. Its been a while since mr willie's had any action and I was excited. I asked for only the girls without any kids. I'd rather not risk any baby damage or stretchy tits if I don't have to. He sent me a list of only the chicas without babies and I asked about 3 of them. Carolina, Hanna and Violeta. I figured I would go there and look at the lineup and pick the one that looked the best.
The casa is located in an "apartahotel" in the la castellana district of Medellin. When I arrived the doorman asked me what apartment I wanted to go to. I had no idea. I whatsapped the manager saying I was there but I couldn't go in because I didn't have an apartment number. The doorman asked me for who I was there to see. I just spouted out the first name that came to mind: Violeta. After a few minutes of waiting for a response from the manager, the doorman got off the phone and said its apartment 501 and let me in.
I could here music while still in the elevator. I got to the 5th floor, a door immediately to the left opened and 5 girls emerged on their way out. They were heading to the floor below for some reason. I think the spa may be split between several different floors.
I can't remember if any of the girls coming out has masks, but the next girl came that come out greeted me and wore a mask. She sprayed my hands with some kind of disinfectant and sprayed my shoes as well. I don't really understand the shoe spraying. The spray didn't even cover my entire shoes. It seemed to only matter that she at least hit both shoes.
I was expecting to be seated in the front room and then shown a lineup but she instead brought me directly to the rear and into a room. She told me she herself was violeta. I was a bit disappointed becuase violeta in real life had a bigger gut than her picture let on. In disbelief I opened up my phone to check the picture again. She pulled down her mask to show me that indeed she was violeta. Violeta had a nice cute face, but her body was only okay. But again, it'd been over 6 months, so I was just happy to be there.
She asked for my payment. 60 k for the hour. I gave it to her and she left for a few minutes to do whatever it is they do. I sat down and took off my shoes and made myself comfortable. The room was small, with a fan, no aircon, but medellin has been cold recently, so no aircon needed. I had been in worse rooms before, this wasn't too bad. There was a sign on the wall about some of the rules. Service includes 2 shots. Time begins when the girl receives the payment. A bunch of other stuff about keeping safe. It might have said a few things about no oral sex, and always wearing a mouth cover.
Violeta came back to the room with a towel and a small bar of soap and insisted that I shower before the session start. She was not the friendly, but not unfriendly. Very business like. She led me a few doors down to a small but pretty clean bathroom with a shower. I washed myself up while she waited in the room. When I returned to the room she was playing with her phone. I had just the towel around me. She proceeded to undress and began the usual pleasantries. Where you from, how long are you staying. Are you here for vacation? The whole time she wore her facemask. So there I am talking to this naked girl with an okay body and a cute face, but she's wearing her damn mask which covers the best part of her. She had small be cup breasts, which hung nicely off her body. A nice set of hips rounded out her figure, but she lacked the most important part, a round bottom. But anyways, it had been a while, and I was happy to be there. I asked her if she was going to wear the mask the whole time. She said yes for safety, I could choose not to wear a mask but she needed to always wear the mask. The irony is, that the mask is not some sort of medical mask with any sufficient filtering, its just some cloth mask, so in theory it would be more to protect me than to protect her. Additionally, she wasn't even covering her nose with her mask!
So I was pretty sure I wasn't going to get any oral. Is it possible to get oral with a mask? LOL.
Well it had been a while and I did some things I usually don't do. I had a pussy meal and ate away. Smelled pretty good. I had forgotten how good the smell can be. She was nice and clean shaven on the outside and looked nice. She was one of those girls with a hidden clit. Hard to find. Some girls have these big mini penis clits. She had a tiny, you will never find me clit.
After about 5 minutes, I asked for a condom which she had already opened and ready. She told me to put it in carefully. I went in slowly. She was so nice and warm inside. Did missionary for a while before she complained about some pain. I was a bit suprised, I'm not particularly big. But I was hard as a rock. So I pulled her up and onto me while I laid on my back. She rode me and started to moan. If only I could see her face! I cupped her tits as she rode me. She then pulled my head towards her breasts and told me to suck on them. I sucked as she came. Flipped her over for some doggie action, but didn't get very far before she complained again and we went back to missionary. I pumped away until I came. Exhausted I rolled over and just lay down for a few minutes to catch my breath.
I cleaned off with some wipes that she had on hand before grabbing the towel and taking an after sex shower.
Overall, it was a mediocre first experience after a long time off. The mask really kills it for me. I get a kick out of seeing a girls expressions as you eat her out or pound away at her. I don't think I will be doing any more casas here from now on.
My ratings for Violeta:
Face: 8. 5.
Body: 6.
Attitude: 6 - although she was much more friendly at the end. I think maybe she realized I wasn't going to go for a 2nd shot?
WIP: No. Although there are some other cuties, but who cares if they're cute if they're wearing masks.[/QUOTE].
Another flight cancelled by copa.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2490233]Something strange is going on with Copa's website. I am booked for a flight from Orlando to Medellin on Oct 16. Earlier today, they showed no flights available until Oct 23. Now they show a flight on the 16th and the 19th, but only one seat available each day. I looked at seat selection on the 16th and there are sections of the plane with all the seats available. The flight from PTY to MDE on the 16th is more than half filled. I tried calling them tonight before they closed. The recording said there is a minimum 30 minutes delay to speak to someone. I looked at "Manage your booking" and everything is normal with the flight. In "Upcoming available flights" it shows the next scheduled flight from Orlando to Medellin is Oct 27. I will try to call tomorrow after they open to see what they tell me. I really don't want to fly Spirit, but that is the only airline flying from Orlando with one stop. Others take more than 20 hours because of multiple stops.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Blakman;2490402]Another flight cancelled by copa.[/QUOTE]I have, or think I have, or maybe have, but hopefully have a flight for the 14th, however when I go onto the COPA App on my phone it shows a ticket number and pops up, but when I go to manage my flight it asks for my confirmation number and nothing shows up so a friend of mine entered my information thru a travel agents website it showed the flight with space available in coach.
I guess I'm going to have to call COPA and be on hold for an hour as something must be off with their website.
Where did that notice you posted from COPA come from, all very perplexing.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2490348]Copa is obviously having cash flow problems and is holding on to any cash they get through selling tickets for flights that don't exist.[/QUOTE]Maybe they read ISG and they know that there is people around, who is so eager to fly to Colombia that cannot resist even few more weeks without jumping there.
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2490352]I hope they get their shit together as I have hundreds of thousands of COPA miles stored up.[/QUOTE]I have more than one million Awards Miles patiently stored with Air France/KLM, planned to be spent exclusively on upgrades. Call me communist, but rather than seeing AF/KLM failing to bankrupt and disappearing, I pray for and I am confident in a strong support from State Public Finances.
I also have enough XP points stored to be Platinum For Life even if I stop flying. I need my airline to enjoy Platinum lifetime gosh!
But I rescheduled for October the 26. This flight had changed because.
Possibility the connecting flights would not work out. So hopefully cancellations are due to that.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2490419]I have, or think I have, or maybe have, but hopefully have a flight for the 14th, however when I go onto the COPA App on my phone it shows a ticket number and pops up, but when I go to manage my flight it asks for my confirmation number and nothing shows up so a friend of mine entered my information thru a travel agents website it showed the flight with space available in coach.
I guess I'm going to have to call COPA and be on hold for an hour as something must be off with their website.
Where did that notice you posted from COPA come from, all very perplexing.[/QUOTE].
I'm planning to book my flight to MDE next week, arrival time is 11:30 PM. Any insight on if I will run into any issues getting a taxi, is it safe, is there curfew.
Also -- do I need a COVID test?
Thanks,
[QUOTE=Luminous;2490442]I'm planning to book my flight to MDE next week, arrival time is 11:30 PM. Any insight on if I will run into any issues getting a taxi, is it safe, is there curfew.
Also -- do I need a COVID test?
Thanks,[/QUOTE]If you just take the time to look back, this forum has recently discussed both those topics. Its not even that far back. Obviously you didn't even make the slightest of effort.
[QUOTE=GringoTrooper;2490190]I went there one time. Nothing really tickled my fancy there, so I left. The talent must have been occupied or maybe it was an off day. Only reason I remember that place is because upon leaving, there was a large uncovered hole in the sidewalk and I fell and ate it pretty hard. LOL.[/QUOTE]I've said before, the biggest dangers in Medellin are the sidewalks and crossing the street.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2490441]But I rescheduled for October the 26. This flight had changed because.
Possibility the connecting flights would not work out. So hopefully cancellations are due to that..[/QUOTE]No It's not that, the connection is over an hour.
In an article today in the Medellin Herald it says that last night Migracion Colombia detected more than 70 Interantional passengers infected with COVID illegaly arriving since October 1, and now the State of New York is requiring all passengers arriving from Colombia be quarantined. What a sad state of affairs this fucking virus has caused. Round two of the Shit show in progress!
I set my location to MDE in Tinder and got a bunch of hits. Anyone that's below 30 is either a pro or a semi-pro, they are all looking for money. Colombian chicks are great at touching up pics so I would always recommend a video call!
[QUOTE=BootyBandit84;2489719] Does anyone know how the online game is doing? (SA, Tinder or FB). [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Luminous;2490464]I set my location to MDE in Tinder and got a bunch of hits. Anyone that's below 30 is either a pro or a semi-pro, they are all looking for money. Colombian chicks are great at touching up pics so I would always recommend a video call![/QUOTE]Thanks a lot. I'm planning on heading down in a few weeks and it looks like Tinder and SA are going to be my best shots since I have never been to Medellin before and things are still on the slow side. I'm looking at FB too but I'm not sure how effective it will be for me.
[QUOTE=Luminous;2490464]I set my location to MDE in Tinder and got a bunch of hits. Anyone that's below 30 is either a pro or a semi-pro, they are all looking for money. Colombian chicks are great at touching up pics so I would always recommend a video call![/QUOTE]This is so true. I have a FB account that has over 4000 (only chicas in Mdeand CTG). Ever since I started using Tinder, it's been more precise. I rarely even log into that fb account. Tinder is a leg up because they must swipe right on you also. A lot more direct of an approach than just being another one on their fb friends list IMO. Just be careful as you still don't know who's on the other end. Get the swipe, get Whatsapp, FB page or IG then the video call.
Pro tip: set the location. Then don't even waste your time dripping right on one or twos. Swipe right on every single chica. Just keep clicking the heart until your index finger is sore or you run out of options. Then if the they like you, and swipe back. You will see your new matches. Unmatch the ones out of your taste, and message the ones that returned the right swipe that are hot. Now it's like checking my tinder to weed out the uglies, guys with girl accounts, trans and whatever doesn't float my boat. Good luck.
Are you joking about the question about the COVID test? Seriously? YES, you need a negative COVID test. PCR - which must be taken within 96 hours of your flight to MDE.
As long as flights arrive, taxis will be there. When I left MDE last week, my taxi guy said the last flights at night were at 8. So I guess they are now permitting later arrivals. At least I hope so for your sake. No curfew when I was there, but things change rapidly.
[QUOTE=Luminous;2490442]I'm planning to book my flight to MDE next week, arrival time is 11:30 PM. Any insight on if I will run into any issues getting a taxi, is it safe, is there curfew.
Also -- do I need a COVID test?
Thanks,[/QUOTE]
And that is why I am waiting, hoping November travel will be easier and shorter. From where I am in Canada I'm looking at a 24+ hour trip with multiple stops.
[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2490475]Are you joking about the question about the COVID test? Seriously? YES, you need a negative COVID test. PCR - which must be taken within 96 hours of your flight to MDE.
As long as flights arrive, taxis will be there. When I left MDE last week, my taxi guy said the last flights at night were at 8. So I guess they are now permitting later arrivals. At least I hope so for your sake. No curfew when I was there, but things change rapidly.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2490460]In an article today in the Medellin Herald it says that last night Migracion Colombia detected more than 70 Interantional passengers infected with COVID illegaly arriving since October 1, and now the State of New York is requiring all passengers arriving from Colombia be quarantined.[/QUOTE]Are you surprised? I mean, by just reading here, are you surprised?
By the way, where is SJobs?
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2490449]I've said before, the biggest dangers in Medellin are the sidewalks and crossing the street.[/QUOTE]Years ago, my legs were saved by a bunch of ladyboys right in front of VeraCruz. I was walking with my eyes pointed at the legs of youngest girls scattered around (no, I do not like culonas, too many culonas anywhere to travel 10,000 km to find more in Medellin) and I did not notice that they had stolen a manhole cover to sell the semisteel. Those transvestites shouted at me to call my attention and saved me. I would have fallen down for a good 2 meters, breaking both my legs maybe. I did not know how to thank them! (no, I did not bring the group with me to a room for a celebration private party).
[QUOTE=Luminous;2490442]Also -- do I need a COVID test?[/QUOTE]They have already shouted you RTFF. No need to add mine too. However, why asking this here, instead of checking the Immigration official web site for regulations?
So I've been contacting various chicas from photoprepagos and mileroticos and one question I always ask is "do you have any kids? Most of the time, I'd say 9 out of 10, they just tell me straight up yes or no, but once in a while I'll get a defensive "why are you asking? I tell them straight up that I don't like the scars. I don't even mention the saggy tits. One chica recently told me "Que decepcióand cada theía en ustedes LOS hombres. FACEPALM. Bye".
These girls must be delusional if they think they're worth the same amount of money post baby as they are before. I'm used to the philippines where baby damage is rampant. It can be horrible. I do admit that baby damage is less of an issue in Colombia, but its still there.
[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2490471]This is so true. I have a FB account that has over 4000 (only chicas in Mdeand CTG). Ever since I started using Tinder, it's been more precise. I rarely even log into that fb account. Tinder is a leg up because they must swipe right on you also. A lot more direct of an approach than just being another one on their fb friends list IMO. Just be careful as you still don't know who's on the other end. Get the swipe, get Whatsapp, FB page or IG then the video call.
Pro tip: set the location. Then don't even waste your time dripping right on one or twos. Swipe right on every single chica. Just keep clicking the heart until your index finger is sore or you run out of options. Then if the they like you, and swipe back. You will see your new matches. Unmatch the ones out of your taste, and message the ones that returned the right swipe that are hot. Now it's like checking my tinder to weed out the uglies, guys with girl accounts, trans and whatever doesn't float my boat. Good luck.[/QUOTE]Now see, this is value, a value add. Thank you.
The "RTFF" whiners, not so much.
[QUOTE=Chicafan;2490518]Now see, this is value, a value add. Thank you.
The "RTFF" whiners, not so much.[/QUOTE]I could sum up what he took 2 paragraphs to describe as use tinder how 99% of guys use tinder, with your location in medellin.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2490502]Are you surprised? I mean, by just reading here, are you surprised?
By the way, where is SJobs?[/QUOTE]Am I surprised, yes, and I am because according to the article some of the airlines weren't checking that the passengers had the required test and allowing them to board which I find hard to believe.
Imagine the issues that might arise as a result of this if some of the other people on the plane get infected. My bet is the offending airlines contacted all the passengers on the flights with the infected passengers and the other passengers are probably freaking out right now, but if everyone was truly wearing their masks maybe not a big deal at all but should not have happened to begin with.
The way things are headed, and is already happening, if the airlines want to get people back in the air domestically in the USA, they should administer the rapid test to all flyers to allow them to board, albeit the test is not as accurate as the PCR test, but would help bring back flying customers, or perhaps use sniffing dogs.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2490515]So I've been contacting various chicas from photoprepagos and mileroticos and one question I always ask is "do you have any kids? Most of the time, I'd say 9 out of 10, they just tell me straight up yes or no, but once in a while I'll get a defensive "why are you asking? I tell them straight up that I don't like the scars. I don't even mention the saggy tits. One chica recently told me "Que decepciand cada thea en ustedes LOS hombres. FACEPALM. Bye".
These girls must be delusional if they think they're worth the same amount of money post baby as they are before. I'm used to the philippines where baby damage is rampant. It can be horrible. I do admit that baby damage is less of an issue in Colombia, but its still there.[/QUOTE]Interesting, how do you ask them if they have scars in Spanish.
Next time one of these Chicas asks you why you want to know if they have kids, tell them that Chicas without kids have tighter pussies. So how would you say that in Spanish?
What gets me is that they want 150 mil when they are only 70 mil prospects. Also the breast implants with noticeabIe lines. I lucked out. My prettiest girl turned out to be the cheapest. Hang in there. Try chicapaisa LOL
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2490515]So I've been contacting various chicas from photoprepagos and mileroticos and one question I always ask is "do you have any kids? Most of the time, I'd say 9 out of 10, they just tell me straight up yes or no, but once in a while I'll get a defensive "why are you asking? I tell them straight up that I don't like the scars. I don't even mention the saggy tits. One chica recently told me "Que decepciand cada thea en ustedes LOS hombres. FACEPALM. Bye".
These girls must be delusional if they think they're worth the same amount of money post baby as they are before. I'm used to the philippines where baby damage is rampant. It can be horrible. I do admit that baby damage is less of an issue in Colombia, but its still there.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2490525]Am I surprised, yes, and I am because according to the article some of the airlines weren't checking that the passengers had the required test and allowing them to board which I find hard to believe.
Imagine the issues that might arise as a result of this if some of the other people on the plane get infected. My bet is the offending airlines contacted all the passengers on the flights with the infected passengers and the other passengers are probably freaking out right now, but if everyone was truly wearing their masks maybe not a big deal at all but should not have happened to begin with.
The way things are headed, and is already happening, if the airlines want to get people back in the air domestically in the USA, they should administer the rapid test to all flyers to allow them to board, albeit the test is not as accurate as the PCR test, but would help bring back flying customers, or perhaps use sniffing dogs.[/QUOTE]And good riddance.
I looked at [URL]www.flightradar24.com[/URL] and it shows a Copa flight from LAX is scheduled to arrive in Panama tomorrow at 9:10 am and a departure for Medellin at 10:13 am. Also, the site shows flights arriving from and departing to Miami, Orlando, and New York. The PTY website says the airport is scheduled to fully open for international flights on the 12th.
"Una mujer que aprieta".
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2490526]Interesting, how do you ask them if they have scars in Spanish.
Next time one of these Chicas asks you why you want to know if they have kids, tell them that Chicas without kids have tighter pussies. So how would you say that in Spanish?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2490345]WIP: No. Although there are some other cuties, but who cares if they're cute if they're wearing masks.[/QUOTE]Well, I'm not doing 15 hours of flight to have sex with a mask. That's ridiculous. For me GFE is a must. Why didn't you walk out when she told you about the mask?
[QUOTE=Luminous;2490464]I set my location to MDE in Tinder and got a bunch of hits. Anyone that's below 30 is either a pro or a semi-pro, they are all looking for money. Colombian chicks are great at touching up pics so I would always recommend a video call![/QUOTE]How do I change location on Tinder? My account only shows a bunch of tired looking gringas in my area, help!
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2490704]How do I change location on Tinder? My account only shows a bunch of tired looking gringas in my area, help![/QUOTE]You need to upgrade to Gold to be able to set location.
[quote=latinalover#1;2490704]how do i change location on tinder? My account only shows a bunch of tired looking gringas in my area, help![/quote].......lol.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2489373]Hi guys,
Anyone got news on lleras park as far as clubs and bars open. Girls flocking there at night time for business. Also does Poblado or lleras park have casas in the area.[/QUOTE]Blankman. Glad to hear you're heading back. Lleras is getting more busy by the weekend, but I have not gone out late at night, so I cannot comment on Gustos, Babylon, Bendito Seas, etc. (Check the last two on Thursday nights, in normal times). You're not going to enjoy the sweaty-balled walk up to Provenza, from Manila, but if you bring your roller skates, the trip home is a breeze. Check out the new Sweet Georgia Cafe for a big American breakfast, try Al Alma in Provenza for something a bit more Instagram-ish, and hit Hooters or Ay Wey for some eye candy + sports.
I got a freebie BJ from the cleaning lady, yesterday, then almost got it all the way inside Coin Slot. I was cheering her on, as I was banging her doggy and she was reaching back to keep me from going all the way in. 150 k. She also gets bonus points for recommending a fresh 18 yo friend, whose number she gave me. Pinky got back at 5 a, this morning.
Heading to Cartagena on Friday. I need to hit the beach, and get some sun. I couldn't find any apartments I loved in Medellin, last minute, so I figured I'd buy myself 12 days to find something and make a decision about going home, etc. Bringing sand to the beach, but this will be Pinky's first trip to Cartagena, so she should be moist from the time I tell her until we return. I have no idea how it is in CTG, but word from the beach tout and the AirBnB host is that things are opening up. I believe there is a midnight curfew. Normally, I stay a few days and get an apartment in Bocagrande, on a high floor. This time, got a killer 3 br by Cafe del Mar, rooftop jacuzzi and sunset view. Should be a quick walk to the Clock Tower and all the restaurants / bars in between. I plan to charter a boat for an island trip, one day, and maybe create a couple's Tinder account to mine for trios. Virgin keeps sending me offers to create a Tinder Plus account, free, because of my datos plan with them. The owner of the apartment said due to COVID, no guests. I think it's a single unit, and I doubt that will be an issue, upon arrival. Although, if it is, I won't be as pissed as normal. I'd just need to RTFF for short-time info.
Hasta nunca hombres! Enjoy Medallo!
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2490565]I looked at [URL]www.flightradar24.com[/URL] and it shows a Copa flight from LAX is scheduled to arrive in Panama tomorrow at 9:10 am and a departure for Medellin at 10:13 am. Also, the site shows flights arriving from and departing to Miami, Orlando, and New York. The PTY website says the airport is scheduled to fully open for international flights on the 12th.[/QUOTE]Just spoke with COPA this morning and they confirmed my flights for the 14th, albeit they have some serious website updating issues.
I think it allows that with subscription.
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2490704]How do I change location on Tinder? My account only shows a bunch of tired looking gringas in my area, help![/QUOTE]
Love the humor. You certainly got jokes and a little skills LOL. You are really balling down there. You got a vote for Colombia male adult entertainer of the pandemic. Any nightclubs open on LA 70. Please give me a report on the negras / morenas down there in Cartegena. Looking for some stallions in Colombia. I think I can manage $2 for taxi to lleras.
[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2490711]Blankman. Glad to hear you're heading back. Lleras is getting more busy by the weekend, but I have not gone out late at night, so I cannot comment on Gustos, Babylon, Bendito Seas, etc. (Check the last two on Thursday nights, in normal times). You're not going to enjoy the sweaty-balled walk up to Provenza, from Manila, but if you bring your roller skates, the trip home is a breeze. Check out the new Sweet Georgia Cafe for a big American breakfast, try Al Alma in Provenza for something a bit more Instagram-ish, and hit Hooters or Ay Wey for some eye candy + sports.
I got a freebie BJ from the cleaning lady, yesterday, then almost got it all the way inside Coin Slot. I was cheering her on, as I was banging her doggy and she was reaching back to keep me from going all the way in. 150 k. She also gets bonus points for recommending a fresh 18 yo friend, whose number she gave me. Pinky got back at 5 a, this morning.
Heading to Cartagena on Friday. I need to hit the beach, and get some sun. I couldn't find any apartments I loved in Medellin, last minute, so I figured I'd buy myself 12 days to find something and make a decision about going home, etc. Bringing sand to the beach, but this will be Pinky's first trip to Cartagena, so she should be moist from the time I tell her until we return. I have no idea how it is in CTG, but word from the beach tout and the AirBnB host is that things are opening up. I believe there is a midnight curfew. Normally, I stay a few days and get an apartment in Bocagrande, on a high floor. This time, got a killer 3 br by Cafe del Mar, rooftop jacuzzi and sunset view. Should be a quick walk to the Clock Tower and all the restaurants / bars in between. I plan to charter a boat for an island trip, one day, and maybe create a couple's Tinder account to mine for trios. Virgin keeps sending me offers to create a Tinder Plus account, free, because of my datos plan with them. The owner of the apartment said due to COVID, no guests. I think it's a single unit, and I doubt that will be an issue, upon arrival. Although, if it is, I won't be as pissed as normal. I'd just need to RTFF for short-time info.
Hasta nunca hombres! Enjoy Medallo![/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2490460]In an article today in the Medellin Herald it says that last night Migracion Colombia detected more than 70 Interantional passengers infected with COVID illegaly arriving since October 1, and now the State of New York is requiring all passengers arriving from Colombia be quarantined. What a sad state of affairs this fucking virus has caused. Round two of the Shit show in progress![/QUOTE]Interesting. Can you post a link to this article or tell us how they found these 70? We're they symptomatic? Random test? I have made a trip down there recently and my PCR test was checked 4 times before boarding.
[QUOTE=Vitrea;2490724]Interesting. Can you post a link to this article or tell us how they found these 70? We're they symptomatic? Random test? I have made a trip down there recently and my PCR test was checked 4 times before boarding.[/QUOTE]Don't know how to post the link but it was in the Medellin Herald a few days ago, they mentioned only two cases out of the seventy that included AVIANCA and WINGO with no details except that 70 people didn't have a test, and some of them were infected. The author was Roberto Pecham and it was 10/6.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2490723]Love the humor. You certainly got jokes and a little skills LOL. You are really balling down there. You got a vote for Colombia male adult entertainer of the pandemic. Any nightclubs open on LA 70. Please give me a report on the negras / morenas down there in Cartegena. Looking for some stallions in Colombia. I think I can manage $2 for taxi to lleras..[/QUOTE]No more than a 10 minute walk from Manila to Lleras so you don't need to worry about spending any chump change or getting sweaty huffing it up to the Park.
You needed a PCR test to leave Colombia?
[QUOTE=Vitrea;2490724]my PCR test was checked 4 times before boarding.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Blakman;2490723]Love the humor. You certainly got jokes and a little skills LOL. You are really balling down there. You got a vote for Colombia male adult entertainer of the pandemic. Any nightclubs open on LA 70. Please give me a report on the negras / morenas down there in Cartegena. Looking for some stallions in Colombia. I think I can manage $2 for taxi to lleras.
.[/QUOTE]70 is open but no dancing allowed, as far as I know. The walk should be good, as the younger locals surround Parque Poblado. You're also a quick walk to Exito Wow, which should have anything you could possibly need, aside from a 20 k / wk prepago GF. Hooters has a friendly bartender that is a thoroughbred negrita. There's a new BBQ joint across from Beer Store, but haven't tried it, yet. You should post up at Beer Store on a weekend night, to watch everything unfold. If you go to Ay Wey, you can buy the bartender or waitresses drinks. Haha wtf am I telling you that for?! .
I'll report on CTG, for sure. A $2 taxi will get you almost back to Laureles. My DiDi, last night, was 9. 000 COP from 70 to Lleras.
I just went bananas at the mall. Pinky is going to be loaded up on clothes and jewelry for the trip. Might as well go all out. I don't want to be staring at other chicks the whole time, so I tried to reinforce her fashion options. I think CTG is going to be noticeably slow, but I need a change of pace.
From my Facebook -- this in Medellin.
No, as I previously reported. But you do need to go online and will out the form with Migracion before you go to the airport.
Entering the USA nothing. Did not check temp. Did not ask questions about health. Just landed, got my bag, went through immigration and left.
[QUOTE=Luminous;2490732]You needed a PCR test to leave Colombia?[/QUOTE]
You certainly thinks thing through. And 4 sure, I do avoid buying women drinks. My budget goes strictly to fucking. Or else I would not get to be in Colombia. Imagine if I could splurge. You probably would say blakfabulous I want to be like you. Thanks for info man. Much appreciated.
[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2490782]70 is open but no dancing allowed, as far as I know. The walk should be good, as the younger locals surround Parque Poblado. You're also a quick walk to Exito Wow, which should have anything you could possibly need, aside from a 20 k / wk prepago GF. Hooters has a friendly bartender that is a thoroughbred negrita. There's a new BBQ joint across from Beer Store, but haven't tried it, yet. You should post up at Beer Store on a weekend night, to watch everything unfold. If you go to Ay Wey, you can buy the bartender or waitresses drinks. Haha wtf am I telling you that for?! .
I'll report on CTG, for sure. A $2 taxi will get you almost back to Laureles. My DiDi, last night, was 9. 000 COP from 70 to Lleras.
I just went bananas at the mall. Pinky is going to be loaded up on clothes and jewelry for the trip. Might as well go all out. I don't want to be staring at other chicks the whole time, so I tried to reinforce her fashion options. I think CTG is going to be noticeably slow, but I need a change of pace.[/QUOTE].
Found this vid of Parque Lleras taken last Saturday. Looks like things are slowly winding up But I think some places will not open again. Moving up there this Friday so should be able to explore. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCaWio-F0cs&ab_channel=RamiTravel.[/URL].
[QUOTE=VsebudetNY;2490708]You need to upgrade to Gold to be able to set location.[/QUOTE]Change your location to Meddy on FB first, and then login into Tinder while in Meddy and it will show Meddy.
BTW J&J started vaccine trials for the recent malady in MDE today, so if you are under 60, maybe you can volunteer; J&J's should be a safe one. Other cities are Bogota and Barranquilla.
[QUOTE=Questner;2490835]Change your location to Meddy on FB first, and then login into Tinder while in Meddy and it will show Meddy.[/QUOTE]Tinder uses your device location (cellphone towers, isp servers if on wifi) , I don't think changing your location on facebook will automatically change your location on tinder. As previous poster stated, you need to pay that 9.99 To upgrade for gold.
The first foto shows how I met my maid at my hotel just off Avenida 70. I was sitting at my desk and she came in to clean my room and this was my view at eye level. I asked her if I could take this photo and she said yes. Beyond that she would not give me the time of day, at first, and treated me like the mongering Gringo I was and still am.
Of course I saw her every day and between my other adventures, after about a week of gab & dab she agreed to go out to dinner. That seals the deal with 99% of Colombianas. We rapidly progressed to daily hand jobs and blow jobs in my hotel room and fucking at her place. She would not fuck me in the hotel for fear of getting caught. And she would not take one peso. This is one of my recurring themes. Regular girls are the best. I understand why other Gringos prefer the detached sex-worker experience, and I am no stranger to that world, either.
After three weeks of free sex, she knew I was still mongering around so I appealed to her sense of fairness and told her that she had to let me do something for her. I asked her what was the one item she wished she had that she did not own and she said a refrigerator. We went down to the appliance section of El Centro, and they had her fridge delivered by that same evening. This made her very happy and even more grateful in every way.
Fucking your hotel maid is a fantasy, but if she does it for free she will expect more loyalty. Once I started fucking her that pretty much shut own my bringing any other girls to that hotel. She was checking in 2-3 times per day including arriving early every morning to wake me with a blow job or hand job. On her days off, her co-workers watched me like a hawk. But it was still worth it and it was not a big deal to fill in with an extra room at another hotel or Love Motel if needed.
She is still my Number Two girl, and her apartment in Belen will be one place I hang my hat upon returning. She has a body any New York runway fashion model would envy, and she is possibly the sweetest girl I have ever met, but still sexy as hell and down for anything. Pussy and ass are fresh, tight, and low mileage. My nickname for her is La Gacela. For those of you keeping track, yes that is a room in the Hotel Botero yet again. She followed me, jajaja.
[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2490853]The first foto shows how I met my maid at my hotel just off Avenida 70. I was sitting at my desk and she came in to clean my room and this was my view at eye level. I asked her if I could take this photo and she said yes. Beyond that she would not give me the time of day, at first, and treated me like the mongering Gringo I was and still am.
Of course I saw her every day and between my other adventures, after about a week of gab & dab she agreed to go out to dinner. That seals the deal with 99% of Colombianas. We rapidly progressed to daily hand jobs and blow jobs in my hotel room and fucking at her place. She would not fuck me in the hotel for fear of getting caught. And she would not take one peso. This is one of my recurring themes. Regular girls are the best. I understand why other Gringos prefer the detached sex-worker experience, and I am no stranger to that world, either.
After three weeks of free sex, she knew I was still mongering around so I appealed to her sense of fairness and told her that she had to let me do something for her. I asked her what was the one item she wished she had that she did not own and she said a refrigerator. We went down to the appliance section of El Centro, and they had her fridge delivered by that same evening. This made her very happy and even more grateful in every way.
Fucking your hotel maid is a fantasy, but if she does it for free she will expect more loyalty. Once I started fucking her that pretty much shut own my bringing any other girls to that hotel. She was checking in 2-3 times per day including arriving early every morning to wake me with a blow job or hand job. On her days off, her co-workers watched me like a hawk. But it was still worth it and it was not a big deal to fill in with an extra room at another hotel or Love Motel if needed..[/QUOTE]Fantastic. Freebies are the best. I hope I will get one in my 15 days there. I can't see her pictures, but she looks black, which is what I like the most. My congratulations!
[QUOTE=Kulibali;2490844]Tinder uses your device location (cellphone towers, isp servers if on wifi) , I don't think changing your location on facebook will automatically change your location on tinder. As previous poster stated, you need to pay that 9.99 To upgrade for gold.[/QUOTE]You don't need Gold, you need just Plus. But now, at least it was like this till a couple of month ago, you could use passport to change location. Due to the pandemic, the option was available for everyone. I'm not using Tinder anymore, so I don't know if it's still available without upgrading to plus.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2490515]So I've been contacting various chicas from photoprepagos and mileroticos and one question I always ask is "do you have any kids? Most of the time, I'd say 9 out of 10, they just tell me straight up yes or no, but once in a while I'll get a defensive "why are you asking? I tell them straight up that I don't like the scars. I don't even mention the saggy tits. One chica recently told me "Que decepciand cada thea en ustedes LOS hombres. FACEPALM. Bye".
These girls must be delusional if they think they're worth the same amount of money post baby as they are before. I'm used to the philippines where baby damage is rampant. It can be horrible. I do admit that baby damage is less of an issue in Colombia, but its still there.[/QUOTE]This happened to me in Cuba once. A very attractive girl had this huge scar on her belly that was a turn off for me. She was so attractive dressed, but once naked I got disappointed.
My location on Tinder is Medellin, even though I live in the USA And I pay nothing. Maybe it's because I switched over when they were offering connections with any place in the world. But I'm not complaining.
[QUOTE=Kulibali;2490844]Tinder uses your device location (cellphone towers, isp servers if on wifi) , I don't think changing your location on facebook will automatically change your location on tinder. As previous poster stated, you need to pay that 9.99 To upgrade for gold.[/QUOTE]
Alright my PCR test from this morning came back negative and within the 96 hour window for my flight with JetBlue on the 11th. Looks like all the JetBlue flights are going through so I should be there on Sunday morning. I'm staying in Laureles so if anyone wants to hang out let me know.
I plan on mostly hitting FaceBook chicas up as centro girls are not really my taste and casa girls are a bit too mechanical from my experiences. If anyone has any girls that need some money and are good lays let me know. I pay 150 mil why taxi por dos horas but will go up to 200 mil if the chica is insane in bed.
[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2490891]I pay 150 mil why taxi por dos horas but will go up to 200 mil if the chica is insane in bed.[/QUOTE]How would you know if the chick is insane in bed until after you have already agreed on a price?
Hello,
Is false dose and la isla (the girls) opened?
[QUOTE=Questner;2490836]BTW J&J started vaccine trials for the recent malady in MDE today, so if you are under 60, maybe you can volunteer; J&J's should be a safe one. Other cities are Bogota and Barranquilla.[/QUOTE]Besides the opportunity to serve as Guinea pig, which is not for everyone, I must remind that vaccine trials are based on a "double blind" procedure:
- 50% of injections are the vaccine under trial, while the other 50% are a placebo (water with salt);
- phials look the same: the volunteers do not know if they are injected the vaccine or the placebo, neither anyone involved in the trial knows that, from doctors to attendants;
The results are analyzed at the end, looking for any correlation between the actual product injected and any level of immunity or side effects.
Interestingly, one may wonder why Colombia is a country where the vaccine is under trial. The reason is that it is an area with heavy presence of COVID and therefore with some significant probability that people gets randomly exposed to the virus. You will not want to try the vaccine in China, as in the last 50 days they had nearly zero local cases and only few ones imported from abroad. The best place to test the "Trump virus" is Washington, but also Colombia is fine :-)
[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2490891]Alright my PCR test from this morning came back negative and within the 96 hour window for my flight with JetBlue on the 11th. Looks like all the JetBlue flights are going through so I should be there on Sunday morning. I'm staying in Laureles so if anyone wants to hang out let me know.
I plan on mostly hitting FaceBook chicas up as centro girls are not really my taste and casa girls are a bit too mechanical from my experiences. If anyone has any girls that need some money and are good lays let me know. I pay 150 mil why taxi por dos horas but will go up to 200 mil if the chica is insane in bed.[/QUOTE]Oh yeah, I read that here, at the top of the page, jaja. I hope you have a great time. Mr. I've-Been-to-Three-Countries has a point about pricing. Here's a simple little trick that can work wonders. After I've agreed upon a price with the girl, before we get started I take out a 20 mil or 50 mil or whatever note, I crisp it in front of them and tell them, "This is your tip at the end if I am happy." I lay it out where they can see it. Very motivational and I have a happy pay out rate of about 90% at the end of the session. Don't cheap out and not tip if you got good service. There is a special place in Hell for guys like that. Have fun! Later, I might tell you the single greatest sex bet you can make with a puta, that you never lose, jajaja.
Gratuitious sex fotos: Meet my Number Four girl, Mia. Her pussy is remarkable for how small and tight it is. Amazing that it fits behind that G-string. She is not petite, she is Venezuelan and 5'8". She gives three-hole access on certain days. She is a master of the Venezuelan soft-swirl blowjob. Her oral is so good I let her give (paid) BJ's to two of my Gringo buddies. One gave her a 10 and the other an 11 on a 1-10 scale and both said it was the "best blow job of their life. " She also gave live blow job instruction on me to my Number Two girl Maid Service, who was lacking experience in oral technique. In the last photo, she's about to get busy on me in two seconds as soon as she puts down the goddam cell phone. If you look closely you can see the edge of my right nut in the lower left corner, jajjajaajaa.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2490515]So I've been contacting various chicas from photoprepagos and mileroticos and one question I always ask is "do you have any kids? Most of the time, I'd say 9 out of 10, they just tell me straight up yes or no, but once in a while I'll get a defensive "why are you asking? I tell them straight up that I don't like the scars. I don't even mention the saggy tits. One chica recently told me "Que decepciand cada thea en ustedes LOS hombres. FACEPALM. Bye".
These girls must be delusional if they think they're worth the same amount of money post baby as they are before. I'm used to the philippines where baby damage is rampant. It can be horrible. I do admit that baby damage is less of an issue in Colombia, but its still there.[/QUOTE]I won't argue your selection criteria may have a higher yield for the kind of pussy you want. But you have fallen prey to the "Bad Toupee Syndrome" and inexperience. Everyone makes fun of a bad rug, but the good ones you don't notice because they are so good. So all toupees are not bad, you just notice the bad ones (I think that analogy is getting too dated because everyone gets hair transplants and Rogaine, now jaajaja).
But having a kid does not automatically wreck every girl's pussy or body. Far from it. That is mainly determined by genetics. Plenty of girls snap back. I've posted pussy pics here of three or four of my regular girls so far, and I guarantee you cannot tell which two have kids. Don't bother guessing because I won't tell you and I know your guesses would be random. There is not a stretch mark to be found among them and their pussies are tight. In fact, as I have said before, my purrfekt Colombiana is young, employed, with a young child, and preferably a mom at home who can watch the kid at a moment's notice. Nothing motivates a girl like taking care of a kid. Even money, except of course the money she needs for the kid. There are plenty of girls who only sell their bodies when their kid is sick or has an expense.
I tell a chica her pussy is her second face, and it has to be cute jajaja (I am sharing too many pearls in my posts, I'm going to start charging). Asking your screening question ahead of time is fair enough, I'll sort out the ones you don't choose after the fact, jajajaa. I never hesitate to ask a girl to send a close up foto of her pussy ahead of time with the comment, "Mustrame tu cono rosado y tu dulce agujero," or "Show me your pink pussy and your sweet hole" (another pearl). I suppose if she is dealing with a plate of lasagna down there your might get a foto of a stunt pussy, but I have had good luck with follow up to the pussy pics.
[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2490853]Fucking your hotel maid is a fantasy, but if she does it for free she will expect more loyalty.[/QUOTE]Not really; especially when she has already seen you coming into your place with a ton of other chicks. Why don't guys realize that chicks like to fuck just as much as they do? They don't have to be doing it for loyalty or some other thing they can get out of it. They can actually be doing it just because they need or want some dick. It can be a mutual exchange of fucking for fucking and does not have to be fucking for money or material goods.
For the past few months I have been fucking my neighbor. At first she was aprehensive saying but we are neighbors and shit. I said I don't give a fuck. Then she said okay but not for free. Bih I got money. After the first time of me paying her $30 all night (not an agreed upon amount; just what I handed her the next day), she did not want money anymore, she only wanted dick. (Of course I put it down like that. You can't go half dicking a chick and expect those kind of results.) Women are people just like men are. Although they may be more selective (not yearning to fuck every guy that walks by) in who they fuck, they still like doing it.
[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2490853]
After three weeks of free sex, she knew I was still mongering around so I appealed to her sense of fairness and told her that she had to let me do something for her. I asked her what was the one item she wished she had that she did not own and she said a refrigerator. We went down to the appliance section of El Centro, and they had her fridge delivered by that same evening. This made her very happy and even more grateful in every way.
Fucking your hotel maid is a fantasy, but if she does it for free she will expect more loyalty. Once I started fucking her that pretty much shut own my bringing any other girls to that hotel. She was checking in 2-3 times per day including arriving early every morning to wake me with a blow job or hand job. On her days off, her co-workers watched me like a hawk. But it was still worth it and it was not a big deal to fill in with an extra room at another hotel or Love Motel if needed.
She is still my Number Two girl, and her apartment in Belen will be one place I hang my hat upon returning. She has a body any New York runway fashion model would envy, and she is possibly the sweetest girl I have ever met, but still sexy as hell and down for anything. Pussy and ass are fresh, tight, and low mileage. My nickname for her is La Gacela. For those of you keeping track, yes that is a room in the Hotel Botero yet again. She followed me, jajaja.[/QUOTE]Its great to have a friend with benefits and do something for them that improves their life. Congratulations, that's a home run. She looks similar to my current housekeeper that comes to my apartment. I had to replace my prior girl (whom I absolutely adore) because she said she got a job in an Envigado restaurant. My current housekeeper is 20 years with flawless mocha / black skin. I was introduced by a friend and I offered her the job. Its not free, but between the cleaning and the sex its an incredible bargain. No kids and Her figure is remarkable. I had to measure her. 31" bust (gravity does not seem to exist under her shirt), 22" !! Waist. 32" ass / hips (again gravity immune). Really sweet and shy. A bit inhibited in bed but no strict boundaries.
By contrast, I spent the late afternoon / early evening in Conejitas yesterday. Not a lot of outstanding dancers. In fact some really big or even obese ladies on stage. However, I took a slim proportioned Venezolana with beautiful milky white skin. (The full extreme contrast to my mocha black housekeeper.) Big sexy glasses. A bit mechanical and business like with the typical first encounter boundaries. But, hey she's fucking a complete stranger from another culture, I get it. But I enjoyed it a lot. The "dirty secretary" experience. Will likely see her more.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2490897]How would you know if the chick is insane in bed until after you have already agreed on a price?[/QUOTE]I am asking for other's recommendations. I am willing to go up to 200 mil if someone else says she's a good lay. I personally try not to pay more than 150 mil.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2490989]Not really; especially when she has already seen you coming into your place with a ton of other chicks. Why don't guys realize that chicks like to fuck just as much as they do? They don't have to be doing it for loyalty or some other thing they can get out of it. They can actually be doing it just because they need or want some dick. It can be a mutual exchange of fucking for fucking and does not have to be fucking for money or material goods.
For the past few months I have been fucking my neighbor. At first she was aprehensive saying but we are neighbors and shit. I said I don't give a fuck. Then she said okay but not for free. Bih I got money. After the first time of me paying her $30 all night (not an agreed upon amount; just what I handed her the next day), she did not want money anymore, she only wanted dick. (Of course I put it down like that. You can't go half dicking a chick and expect those kind of results.) Women are people just like men are. Although they may be more selective (not yearning to fuck every guy that walks by) in who they fuck, they still like doing it.[/QUOTE]And it doesn't apply. Go for it.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2490526]................Next time one of these Chicas asks you why you want to know if they have kids, tell them that Chicas without kids have tighter pussies............[/QUOTE]Not necessarily. I have had chicas without kids whose pussies were loose and chicas with kids who were tight. You have to know their boyfriends; if she has no kids but her boyfriend has a humongous dick she's not going to be tight.
[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2490891]Alright my PCR test from this morning came back negative and within the 96 hour window for my flight with JetBlue on the 11th. Looks like all the JetBlue flights are going through so I should be there on Sunday morning. I'm staying in Laureles so if anyone wants to hang out let me know.
I plan on mostly hitting FaceBook chicas up as centro girls are not really my taste and casa girls are a bit too mechanical from my experiences. If anyone has any girls that need some money and are good lays let me know. I pay 150 mil why taxi por dos horas but will go up to 200 mil if the chica is insane in bed.[/QUOTE]I was thinking to go to Medellin I been to costa and panama but never been to Medellin do you think you can guide me where to stay and where to go look for girls like in bars or restaurant or something like that I don't like website and app or anything like that.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2491017]Not necessarily. I have had chicas without kids whose pussies were loose and chicas with kids who were tight. You have to know their boyfriends; if she has no kids but her boyfriend has a humongous dick she's not going to be tight.[/QUOTE]Yeah so you know how that guy was saying he screens his potential dates by asking if they have kids. Well may be wise to ask also how big her boyfriends thing is. The more questions you ask the more research you do the happier you will be with your potential date.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2490946]Besides the opportunity to serve as Guinea pig, which is not for everyone, I must remind that vaccine trials are based on a "double blind" procedure:
- 50% of injections are the vaccine under trial, while the other 50% are a placebo (water with salt);
- phials look the same: the volunteers do not know if they are injected the vaccine or the placebo, neither anyone involved in the trial knows that, from doctors to attendants;
The results are analyzed at the end, looking for any correlation between the actual product injected and any level of immunity or side effects.
Interestingly, one may wonder why Colombia is a country where the vaccine is under trial. The reason is that it is an area with heavy presence of COVID and therefore with some significant probability that people gets randomly exposed to the virus. You will not want to try the vaccine in China, as in the last 50 days they had nearly zero local cases and only few ones imported from abroad. The best place to test the "Trump virus" is Washington, but also Colombia is fine :-)[/QUOTE]I am in a trial.
[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/07/health/coronavirus-vaccine-trials-african-americans.html?action=click&module=Well&pgtype=Homepage§ion=Health[/URL]
[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2490891]Alright my PCR test from this morning came back negative and within the 96 hour window for my flight with JetBlue on the 11th. Looks like all the JetBlue flights are going through so I should be there on Sunday morning. I'm staying in Laureles so if anyone wants to hang out let me know.
I plan on mostly hitting FaceBook chicas up as centro girls are not really my taste and casa girls are a bit too mechanical from my experiences. If anyone has any girls that need some money and are good lays let me know. I pay 150 mil why taxi por dos horas but will go up to 200 mil if the chica is insane in bed.[/QUOTE]I hate to point this out. But I think the time is from when the test is taken not when you get it back. Maybe that is what you were saying, but it looked like you were counting the 96 hours from this morning. Anyway, best of luck. I would love to be in Laureles.
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2491053]I hate to point this out. But I think the time is from when the test is taken not when you get it back. Maybe that is what you were saying, but it looked like you were counting the 96 hours from this morning. Anyway, best of luck. I would love to be in Laureles.[/QUOTE]I saw his post last night (Wednesday), so I guess he was talking about Wednesday morning, he might be past the 96 hour window.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2491017]Not necessarily. I have had chicas without kids whose pussies were loose and chicas with kids who were tight. You have to know their boyfriends; if she has no kids but her boyfriend has a humongous dick she's not going to be tight.[/QUOTE]Agreed, the varation in pussy tightness is dependent on a lot of things, I have had some Chicas with four kids that are as tight as drum, but generally speaking Chica's with no kids will be tighter than their older counterparts, and also some Chicas know how to tighten it up and make you squirm!
Regardless, the worst type of pussy is when you put in your dick, and it is slapping against the sides of the Chicas vagina because it has opened up like a house, with no sensation, making blowing a load a challenge.
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2491053]I hate to point this out. But I think the time is from when the test is taken not when you get it back. Maybe that is what you were saying, but it looked like you were counting the 96 hours from this morning. Anyway, best of luck. I would love to be in Laureles.[/QUOTE]Yeah I know. I took the test at 9 AM, flight is 7 AM, results were sent to me at around 5 pm. I went straight to the lab rather than a third party and they promised 24 hour result.
I am returning to the promise land on October 24th. I am going to stay at an apartment for 7 days and then have to leave the apartment. I still will have 2 days left Sunday until Tuesday of that following week. I want to know for a short stay what is recommended? I want to stay somewhere where I can take girls up without a surcharge. Not interested in Centro areas. Looking for something in laureles or Poblado that isn't too expensive. I will be at the San Peter and want to try something different the last 2 days. Thanks.
[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2491059]Yeah I know. I took the test at 9 AM, flight is 7 AM, results were sent to me at around 5 pm. I went straight to the lab rather than a third party and they promised 24 hour result.[/QUOTE]My buddy took the test at the drug store the other day at 10 AM. 36 hours later they emailed him the results in pdf form. He sent it to me. I was able to change the name, birthday, and time the test was taken in Adobe Acrobat.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2491017]Not necessarily. I have had chicas without kids whose pussies were loose and chicas with kids who were tight. You have to know their boyfriends; if she has no kids but her boyfriend has a humongous dick she's not going to be tight.[/QUOTE]I think the exact opposite as you. I used to think man, hookers must have the most loose pussies in the world. But in actuality I've met regular girls with caverns and hookers with tight pussies. Some of them even had babies. I don't think it matters what kind of a dick a girls been fucking. I don't believe pussies can get worn out or stretched from fucking. A baby on the other hand, is another story. I find it hard to believe that doesn't leave some irreparable damange down there. But there are always exceptions.
[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2490998]Its great to have a friend with benefits and do something for them that improves their life. Congratulations, that's a home run. She looks similar to my current housekeeper that comes to my apartment. I had to replace my prior girl (whom I absolutely adore) because she said she got a job in an Envigado restaurant. My current housekeeper is 20 years with flawless mocha / black skin. I was introduced by a friend and I offered her the job. Its not free, but between the cleaning and the sex its an incredible bargain. No kids and Her figure is remarkable. I had to measure her. 31" bust (gravity does not seem to exist under her shirt), 22" !! Waist. 32" ass / hips (again gravity immune). Really sweet and shy. A bit inhibited in bed but no strict boundaries.
By contrast, I spent the late afternoon / early evening in Conejitas yesterday. Not a lot of outstanding dancers. In fact some really big or even obese ladies on stage. However, I took a slim proportioned Venezolana with beautiful milky white skin. (The full extreme contrast to my mocha black housekeeper.) Big sexy glasses. A bit mechanical and business like with the typical first encounter boundaries. But, hey she's fucking a complete stranger from another culture, I get it. But I enjoyed it a lot. The "dirty secretary" experience. Will likely see her more.[/QUOTE]I forgot to mention neither of these beautiful specimens has a tattoo.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2491073]My buddy took the test at the drug store the other day at 10 AM. 36 hours later they emailed him the results in pdf form. He sent it to me. I was able to change the name, birthday, and time the test was taken in Adobe Acrobat.[/QUOTE]Not sure about the legality of actually using it, but if it works, it works. I would use it as a back up plan if you don't get your results in within 96 hours.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2491074]I think the exact opposite as you. I used to think man, hookers must have the most loose pussies in the world. But in actuality I've met regular girls with caverns and hookers with tight pussies. Some of them even had babies. I don't think it matters what kind of a dick a girls been fucking. I don't believe pussies can get worn out or stretched from fucking. A baby on the other hand, is another story. I find it hard to believe that doesn't leave some irreparable damange down there. But there are always exceptions.[/QUOTE]A pussy is not an ass. A pussy dialtes and reverts the same as a pupil. Or stretches and shrinks the same as a penis. So how big it is has nothing to do with what went in or what came out, no more than the size of your dick has to do with if someone has been pulling on or squeezing it. It is basically the same as one's shoe size or hat size, a personal physical characteristic that is part of their gene makeup. Once an ass is busted then that anal sphincter muscle is never the same; a permanent "injury" if you will.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2491081]Once an ass is busted then that anal sphincter muscle is never the same; a permanent "injury" if you will.[/QUOTE]I don't know Mr. E, but you sound like a closet "back door man", being so knowledgeable in these matters.
[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2491078]Not sure about the legality of actually using it, but if it works, it works. I would use it as a back up plan if you don't get your results in within 96 hours.[/QUOTE]The metadata for the PDF will show the date the document was originally created, who created it, and if it's been modified, when and by whom. You can see the basic information by checking the properties tab on the PDF. There's also software that will show all the edits like a redlined Word document.
Just editing the name, DOB and time would be like changing a (C) (had to use parentheticals, otherwise the website's editor changes the letter to see) on your report card to an "O" and trying to convince your parents it stands for outstanding.
[QUOTE=Flak3;2491088]The metadata for the PDF will show the date the document was originally created, who created it, and if it's been modified, when and by whom. You can see the basic information by checking the properties tab on the PDF. There's also software that will show all the edits like a redlined Word document.
Just editing the name, DOB and time would be like changing a (C) (had to use parentheticals, otherwise the website's editor changes the letter to see) on your report card to an "O" and trying to convince your parents it stands for outstanding.[/QUOTE]You could just print it out and rescan it.
Honestly all this pussy tightness conversation is just funny. Sure there can be some differences here and there but for the most part a lot of guys say all pussies provide good pleasure. Maybe it doesn't really matter how tight it is? LOL. rOFL. mAN And when finding a good escort there are so many things that are way much more important than a stretch mark or a scar....rolf...rolf...rolf...rolf.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2490723] Any nightclubs open on LA 70.
.[/QUOTE]This is a video of a guy walking La 70 is from about two weeks ago.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOb01Vm8aMM&t=9s[/URL]
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2490787]From my Facebook -- this in Medellin. Danger- Danger! Tinder Girl to avoid See photo
From my Facebook -- this in Medellin.[/QUOTE]Well if you don't mind saying, what did she do? The original post has a picture of a girl and a danger warning, but no explanation.
[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2491089]You could just print it out and rescan it.[/QUOTE]There are lots of ways to forge a document, but I'm not here to give advice on that. I'm letting people know that it's pretty easy to see if you changed a PDF with Adobe.
I was stunned first when my 8 LOL told me she was 32, but then she said she had 4 kids and I said no way. Not a visible mark or surgery to cover anything. She's a well maintained lady. Actually be interesting to see if she comes see me for my cheap rates LOL. Anyways So yes you are missing out on some good girls and pussy. But dammit when you get the girls with saggy titties, stretch marks, and jelly tummies from having a baby. You just be like wtf. Here take the money its okay lmao.
[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2490982]I won't argue your selection criteria may have a higher yield for the kind of pussy you want. But you have fallen prey to the "Bad Toupee Syndrome" and inexperience. Everyone makes fun of a bad rug, but the good ones you don't notice because they are so good. So all toupees are not bad, you just notice the bad ones (I think that analogy is getting too dated because everyone gets hair transplants and Rogaine, now jaajaja).
But having a kid does not automatically wreck every girl's pussy or body. Far from it. That is mainly determined by genetics. Plenty of girls snap back. I've posted pussy pics here of three or four of my regular girls so far, and I guarantee you cannot tell which two have kids. Don't bother guessing because I won't tell you and I know your guesses would be random. There is not a stretch mark to be found among them and their pussies are tight. In fact, as I have said before, my purrfekt Colombiana is young, employed, with a young child, and preferably a mom at home who can watch the kid at a moment's notice. Nothing motivates a girl like taking care of a kid. Even money, except of course the money she needs for the kid. There are plenty of girls who only sell their bodies when their kid is sick or has an expense.
I tell a chica her pussy is her second face, and it has to be cute jajaja (I am sharing too many pearls in my posts, I'm going to start charging). Asking your screening question ahead of time is fair enough, I'll sort out the ones you don't choose after the fact, jajajaa. I never hesitate to ask a girl to send a close up foto of her pussy ahead of time with the comment, "Mustrame tu cono rosado y tu dulce agujero," or "Show me your pink pussy and your sweet hole" (another pearl). I suppose if she is dealing with a plate of lasagna down there your might get a foto of a stunt pussy, but I have had good luck with follow up to the pussy pics.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Turgid;2491017]Not necessarily. I have had chicas without kids whose pussies were loose and chicas with kids who were tight. You have to know their boyfriends; if she has no kids but her boyfriend has a humongous dick she's not going to be tight.[/QUOTE]I tend to disagree. Size matters much less than the number. He should ask the girls on Tinder "how many dicks did venture into your pussy?" and accept only those who met less than 4 or max 5. Good luck for the quest!
[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2491089]You could just print it out and rescan it.[/QUOTE]LOL. Exactly. I have seen no reports saying you have to submit a certified electronic copy of anything and someone will call or perform in-depth analysis to verify...
You just have to show up with proof of a negative covid pcr or whatever the hell. You guys make stuff too complicated. Show up with what they asked for, hand it to them IF they ask for it, and keep your mouth closed. If they don't ask you shit, you don't say shit.
It is like how I sometimes talk myself out of pussy by saying too much when the chick was almost virtually laying there ready for me to stick my dick in. I just had to spout off some bullshit to go and ruin the mood or pisz her off.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2490897]How would you know if the chick is insane in bed until after you have already agreed on a price?[/QUOTE]Her photos show her drooling and wearing a straitjacket?
[QUOTE=IamLookin;2491071]I am returning to the promise land on October 24th. I am going to stay at an apartment for 7 days and then have to leave the apartment. I still will have 2 days left Sunday until Tuesday of that following week. I want to know for a short stay what is recommended? I want to stay somewhere where I can take girls up without a surcharge. Not interested in Centro areas. Looking for something in laureles or Poblado that isn't too expensive. I will be at the San Peter and want to try something different the last 2 days. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Check out Hotel Ibis in Ciudad del Rio. Super close to Poblado, CDR is kind of cool in itself, and I think Ibis is historically visitor-friendly. Looks like a room for two for two nights is $78.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2491103]LOL. Exactly. I have seen no reports saying you have to submit a certified electronic copy of anything and someone will call or perform in-depth analysis to verify...
You just have to show up with proof of a negative covid pcr or whatever the hell. You guys make stuff too complicated. Show up with what they asked for, hand it to them IF they ask for it, and keep your mouth closed. If they don't ask you shit, you don't say shit.
It is like how I sometimes talk myself out of pussy by saying too much when the chick was almost virtually laying there ready for me to stick my dick in. I just had to spout off some bullshit to go and ruin the mood or pisz her off.[/QUOTE]This what happened in the DR, people would just show up with a paper, or a screenshot that said negative, and one lady in a suit would look for the word negative and just waive you through. But Colombia seems to be more organized with their process and probably stricter.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2491090]Honestly all this pussy tightness conversation is just funny. Sure there can be some differences here and there but for the most part a lot of guys say all pussies provide good pleasure. Maybe it doesn't really matter how tight it is? LOL. rOFL. mAN And when finding a good escort there are so many things that are way much more important than a stretch mark or a scar....rolf...rolf...rolf...rolf.[/QUOTE]It matters a lot how tight they are, at least for me, if it isn't a tight squeeze, I can't come, and the topic that hasn't been brought up about this is, how big the guy's dick is.
So for all the guys that don't have thick beer can dicks "grueso" in Spanish, meaning thick, it's just another variable in the tightness of a pussy. Lot's of women actually don't like guys with dicks that are long, but have a preference for thick dicks. If a women is loose, meaning she opens up like a house after a while, I don't repeat. A lot of times I talk to my buddies about this topic, how tight or loose the women are. I'm sure there are parallel discussions amongst women as well. Like, that guy has a pencil thick dick! LOL.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2491074]A baby on the other hand, is another story. I find it hard to believe that doesn't leave some irreparable damange down there. But there are always exceptions.[/QUOTE]Don't forget that we live in 2020 - Vaginoplasty is a procedure that aims to "tighten up" a vagina that's become slack or loose from vaginal childbirth or aging. Some surgeons claim it can even improve sensitivity.
I whole-heartedly agree. Some of the girls I see have kids and you really have to hunt for the see-section scar (if they had one). Pussies are still tight and sweet. No stretch marks. Some of those pussies look beautiful (I too compliment them on a beautiful pussy. If they have one). Some girls who have no kids have pussies that look like they've had 10.
I also have been known to ask for a foto to see what I'm going to get, especially sex I enjoy giving oral sex so much. I have gotten a few that are a bit scary.
[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2490982]I
But having a kid does not automatically wreck every girl's pussy or body. Far from it. That is mainly determined by genetics. Plenty of girls snap back. I've posted pussy pics here of three or four of my regular girls so far, and I guarantee you cannot tell which two have kids. Don't bother guessing because I won't tell you and I know your guesses would be random. There is not a stretch mark to be found among them and their pussies are tight. In fact, as I have said before, my purrfekt Colombiana is young, employed, with a young child, and preferably a mom at home who can watch the kid at a moment's notice. Nothing motivates a girl like taking care of a kid. Even money, except of course the money she needs for the kid. There are plenty of girls who only sell their bodies when their kid is sick or has an expense.
I tell a chica her pussy is her second face, and it has to be cute jajaja (I am sharing too many pearls in my posts, I'm going to start charging). Asking your screening question ahead of time is fair enough, I'll sort out the ones you don't choose after the fact, jajajaa. I never hesitate to ask a girl to send a close up foto of her pussy ahead of time with the comment, "Mustrame tu cono rosado y tu dulce agujero," or "Show me your pink pussy and your sweet hole" (another pearl). I suppose if she is dealing with a plate of lasagna down there your might get a foto of a stunt pussy, but I have had good luck with follow up to the pussy pics.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2491103]LOL. Exactly. I have seen no reports saying you have to submit a certified electronic copy of anything and someone will call or perform in-depth analysis to verify...
You just have to show up with proof of a negative covid pcr or whatever the hell. You guys make stuff too complicated. Show up with what they asked for, hand it to them IF they ask for it, and keep your mouth closed. If they don't ask you shit, you don't say shit.
It is like how I sometimes talk myself out of pussy by saying too much when the chick was almost virtually laying there ready for me to stick my dick in. I just had to spout off some bullshit to go and ruin the mood or pisz her off.[/QUOTE]Option 1, drive to a lab and get a real test.
Option 2, find someone else's test (because posting your medical data online is the new selfie or just borrow a friend's since involving your friends in your crimes to avoid paying $200 is rule number 1 in bro code), then edit it, and hope you don't get caught entering the country, while in country, while exiting the country, any other time you try to visit Colombia, or anytime at all because if Colombia discovers it they can report it to your home country. They have been fighting insurgents, money launderers and narcos for decades, but I'm sure you can outsmart them using $15 online software and a printer / scanner.
I know this is all facetious, but faking a PCR test is more complicated than getting a real test. And honestly, most of us would misspell our name, miscalculate the 96 hours, use someone's test that showed they have Covid and not change the result, or use a PAP test instead of a PCR test.
My love I want to have fun with you 200 mil plus Taxi. Baby that's a lot. I can't. I stayed 4 months in laureles recently I don't pay that much. My love 200 mil no taxi. I really cannot. I will be here 2 months. I am so sorry. I guarantee you will have a good time with me plus I give a nice body oil massage but I only pay 120 mil including taxi. Okay my mi amor. I accept your offer. I will wait for you to come.
I said more things but added info will cost you LOL.
Nice negotiation. Haha. I'm trying out Tinder game and trying to get some freebies.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2491150]My love I want to have fun with you 200 mil plus Taxi. Baby that's a lot. I can't. I stayed 4 months in laureles recently I don't pay that much. My love 200 mil no taxi. I really cannot. I will be here 2 months. I am so sorry. I guarantee you will have a good time with me plus I give a nice body oil massage but I only pay 120 mil including taxi. Okay my mi amor. I accept your offer. I will wait for you to come.
I said more things but added info will cost you LOL.[/QUOTE]
I found a set of girls on mileroticos whose pictures were all of the same style. So I knew they were all in the same place.
I started asking them standard questions about having kids. They all replied that they did not have any kids. Fantastic. This place is a gold mine I thought to myself. Since the pictures looked good. I'd do any of the three that I questioned.
So yesterday afternoon, I figured I'd just go up there and see them in person and chose the one that looked the best in person.
When I arrived there I couldn't find the building. I walked through by where I thought it should be a few times before I stopped and whatsapped one of the chicas saying I was there but couldn't find the place. It turns out, right in front of me was a sign for a hostel, which happens to have the exact address I was looking for.
If anyone wants to find this place, these girls work out of the Esmed hostel in LOS colores.
The reason I didn't see the address is because the door is sort of recessed inn between a hair salon and a restaurant. A black door with a black gate.
The chica responded to me and told me I was in the right place and to go ring the door bell at the black door.
A large man opened the door and asked me if I was there to see a specific girl of if I wanted to see who was available.
I wanted the lineup of course!
He led me down the hall and to a room in the back left corner. I saw some spiral stairways that I believe led to more rooms.
I waited for about 2 minutes before 3 girls came in. None of which were any of the girls I saw on mileroticos. There were 2 taller girls and one smaller girl. And none of them were girls I would choose.
Damnit.
I told the girls I wanted a girl without any kids. Only the smaller girl qualified. I asked the girls where Virginia, Roxana and Katy were. They told me that all those girls were not free at the moment. They're probably not free because they're the good looking ones!
Well, I was already there and had taken some blue magic. Wasn't going to let it go to waste. I chose Estefany.
A venezuelan of course, she had been in the country for about a year. She had quite a cute face. Oh by the way, none of the girls wore any masks. Good thing, she had a baby face that would have complemented a better body nicely.
Her body was where things were not up to par. She didn't have any babies, but she had no hips and ass really. In jeans, she would have looked like a young boy from behind. Her breasts were small but kissable.
She told me service was 50 k for a single shot or 70 k for 2 shots and 10 k for the room. I gave her 60 k.
She left to go pay the guy and came back a few minutes later with the fucking kit: towel, condom, and those baby wipes that they use to clean up afterwards.
She offered me a shower which I accepted. The bathroom right next door to the room.
When it came down to business, we started kissinig. Nothing too deep. I'm not really into long DFK, but I do like lips. Such a change from Violeta from Eros spa. Estefany was pretty close to GFE. I would say if I went back and we got to know each other a bit, a second session would be better. Its a shame she didn't have a better body.
I laid on my back, and she started BBBJ without any prompting or upselling. Just went down. She did inspect and clean it off with a wipe beforehand though.
I enjoyed the warmth of her mouth for a few minutes before she stopped and reached for the condom. I was fine with that, a girl has to be really talented for me to come from a blowjob.
After she put on the condom, we switched places. She laid on her back and I started kissing her tits and made my way down for a pussy meal. I watched her enjoy herself as my tongue went to work.
I moved into missionary and pounded away while staring at her cute face.
Then I went into the next position by pulling her on top of me. She started riding me cowgirl style pretty agressively, grinding her pussy into my pelvic bone. I responded rythmically. It felt pretty good, maybe a bit too good, because I realized that the condom had slipped off and gotten lost in her pussy. Damnit. This has happened to me before with a chica in New Life. That New Life chica never did find the condom. I imagine there must be some crevice in her pussy with a rotting condom in it.
Estefany reached into her pussy and search around for the condom for a couple seconds before pulling it out.
I told her I had some extra condoms. I pulled a Durex Featherlight Utra out of my bag and put it on.
I flipped her into doggie style but before she would let me in, she took a few wiped and tried to wipe the inside of her pussy with the wipes. I assume it was because the condom had fallen off that she thought she needed to wipe inside there. I wonder how effective that is. I don't think she was getting very far inside with the wipes.
Anyways I finished in doggie style and I went to the bathroom for an after sex shower.
We chatted for a bit afterwards. She was friendly and sweet. Overall not a bad experience.
Body: 5.
Face: 8.
Attitude: 9.
WIR: No. Just because her body isn't too great. Despite not having kids.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2491150]My love I want to have fun with you 200 mil plus Taxi. Baby that's a lot. I can't. I stayed 4 months in laureles recently I don't pay that much. My love 200 mil no taxi. I really cannot. I will be here 2 months. I am so sorry. I guarantee you will have a good time with me plus I give a nice body oil massage but I only pay 120 mil including taxi. Okay my mi amor. I accept your offer. I will wait for you to come.
I said more things but added info will cost you LOL.[/QUOTE]Here we go again, posts of the art of the deal of each and every one of your conquests, albeit the statement that you would be in town for two months probably sealed the deal. However you shouldn't of offered taxi money, you could of negotiated this telling her you would give her roundtrip Metro fare being that Manila is so close and an easy walk from the METRO, I'm disappointed in you Blakman. LOL.
Anyways, when are you getting into town, as our paths might cross, I will be across the rail road tracks (Calle 10) in the PB barrio hopefully the end of next week.
Lack of knowledge about Manila and metro did not allow that type of thinking. So she gets 102 mil now LOL. Be in Colombia end of month if nothing goes wrong LOL. The plan is to pay a little more this time if the chick is worth it. She look good but 5ft and silicon boobs doesnt cut it for me.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2491167]Here we go again, posts of the art of the deal of each and every one of your conquests, albeit the statement that you would be in town for two months probably sealed the deal. However you shouldn't of offered taxi money, you could of negotiated this telling her you would give her roundtrip Metro fare being that Manila is so close and an easy walk from the METRO, I'm disappointed in you Blakman. LOL.
Anyways, when are you getting into town, as our paths might cross, I will be across the rail road tracks (Calle 10) in the PB barrio hopefully the end of next week.[/QUOTE].
No, not ass to mouth. I'm talking about bank ATMs. Hahah. I went to a Davidivenda ATM machine today, and was quite suprised. I'm used to them only dishing out 400 k at a time. I used to have to make 3 or 4 separate ATM transactions, but this time in listed up to 2,000,000 as an option to withdraw. Citibank used to have the only ATMs which would let me take out that much, but they were bought out in Colombia by annother bank a few years back and no longer have a presence in Colombia.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2491162]I found a set of girls on mileroticos whose pictures were all of the same style. So I knew they were all in the same place.
When it came down to business, we started kissing.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report man, hope you're having a good trip.
I had the Rona (feels like forever ago) because I made out with a chica here in the states that had it. I never got a Covid test, so technically, I don't have proof that I had it.
MG opinion (conspiracy theory and uneducated guess) as to why Brazil has so many cases of Covid is because that culture is obsessed with kissing.
Those who've been to Brazil know what I'm talking about.
Anyways when I get down to Colombia, I won't be kissing the chicas, LOL. To each their own.
Guys for best results before you arrive in MED get your secretaries to screen all the girls By asking them if they have had children. This is a huge time-saving technique. And the ones that claim they haven't had children should be encouraged to present a lie detector test if they aspire to make it into the top 10 list. The secretary should tell them that honesty will be rewarded. And when you Arrive in MED grab them by the pussy.
Also there is a guy in the Georgia forum that is very strict with his beliefs and only dates girls who "go to the" ATM as a Kind favor for himself. This Georgia man's secretary does the ATM screening process. A huge time-saving technique.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2491180]No, not ass to mouth. I'm talking about bank ATMs. Hahah. I went to a Davidivenda ATM machine today, and was quite suprised. I'm used to them only dishing out 400 k at a time. I used to have to make 3 or 4 separate ATM transactions, but this time in listed up to 2,000,000 as an option to withdraw. Citibank used to have the only ATMs which would let me take out that much, but they were bought out in Colombia by annother bank a few years back and no longer have a presence in Colombia.[/QUOTE]That's nice. But what is the exchange rate? Servibanca allows 1,000,000 now I believe, but the rate stinks.
Ok gentlemen. The money's important I realize, but let's get back to sex please.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2491180]No, not ass to mouth. I'm talking about bank ATMs. Hahah. I went to a Davidivenda ATM machine today, and was quite suprised. I'm used to them only dishing out 400 k at a time. I used to have to make 3 or 4 separate ATM transactions, but this time in listed up to 2,000,000 as an option to withdraw. Citibank used to have the only ATMs which would let me take out that much, but they were bought out in Colombia by annother bank a few years back and no longer have a presence in Colombia.[/QUOTE]Scotiabank-Colpatria will let you take out 4. 5 million COP. You just have to do five 900,000 COP transactions.
[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2491195]That's nice. But what is the exchange rate? Servibanca allows 1,000,000 now I believe, but the rate stinks.[/QUOTE]I've never had issues with exchange rates from ATMs. I used an Ally bank account ATM card to withdraw 1,020,000 COP and Ally withdrew 268.44 from my account. So that's 3799 COP to the USD. [URL]XE.com[/URL] lists the exchange rate at 3,839.56.
One thing to keep in mind. The Davivienda ATMs now have a Foreign Conversion service screen the present to you where they offer to convert your withdrawal into local currency for you. I always decline these. Its never a good deal for you.
[QUOTE=GringoTrooper;2491181]Thanks for the report man, hope you're having a good trip.
I had the Rona (feels like forever ago) because I made out with a chica here in the states that had it. I never got a Covid test, so technically, I don't have proof that I had it.
MG opinion (conspiracy theory and uneducated guess) as to why Brazil has so many cases of Covid is because that culture is obsessed with kissing.
Those who've been to Brazil know what I'm talking about.
Anyways when I get down to Colombia, I won't be kissing the chicas, LOL. To each their own.[/QUOTE]If you're so sure you've had corona virus, wouldn't that mean you wouldn't get it again?
For, the kissing is a big part of the experience, but I understand where you're coming from. To each his own.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2491081]A pussy is not an ass. A pussy dialtes and reverts the same as a pupil. Or stretches and shrinks the same as a penis. So how big it is has nothing to do with what went in or what came out, no more than the size of your dick has to do with if someone has been pulling on or squeezing it. It is basically the same as one's shoe size or hat size, a personal physical characteristic that is part of their gene makeup. Once an ass is busted then that anal sphincter muscle is never the same; a permanent "injury" if you will.[/QUOTE]LOL. Busted ass. Hey man, I'm guessing you have had things come out that are bigger than anything that will ever go in. So much for permanent injury. Maybe a wine bottle full on. But who wants that.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2491212]If you're so sure you've had corona virus, wouldn't that mean you wouldn't get it again?
For, the kissing is a big part of the experience, but I understand where you're coming from. To each his own.[/QUOTE]I'm not a doctor nor do I play one on tv, LOL, but I do agree with your statement in regards to antibody immunity. Even if I'm not immune, I'm relatively young, so getting it a second time wouldn't be the end of the world.
Also, I don't always practice what I preach. Sometimes, if the chemistry is there and she's super fine, then yes, I'll go for besos also. I just pray that the chica didn't just finish sucking some dude's the, right before I hook up with her LOL.
I am working on my list for the next trip. I have found a new 18 year old. Doesn't seem to be a puta. Has not asked me for a dime. Since she appears to be a non-pro, I would normally not share a foto. However, this foto does not show her face. And it relates to our discussion about beautiful pussies and chicas that have kids (this chica has a baby). I plan to eat her until she can't take any more. To me, this is one yummy pussy.
P.S. - if she turns out to be a prepago, I'll share her info if she wants me to. But I'm hoping she's not. Love girl next store pussy.
There are documented cases of people who have contracted coronavirus more than once.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2491212]If you're so sure you've had corona virus, wouldn't that mean you wouldn't get it again?
For, the kissing is a big part of the experience, but I understand where you're coming from. To each his own.[/QUOTE]
This is continued from the Bogota forum.
I was due to spend the night with Stefany a tall lanky and very horny girl from Barranquilla. She has asked me to fly her to Medellin so she could stay with her cousin and get away from her super strict parents. When she came to my hotel room, it was like a reunion with a girlfriend. After dinner, she took care of me and the bedroom and she was insistent on blowing me and gave me and effort that is outlawed in the sex prison. When I finally climaxed, she swallowed ever drop, smiled and said, "I missed the taste of your cum."
I awoke that morning with an erection and Stefany took care of me again, but this time, I reminded her that I wanted her to go bare as she had agreed to. I got close to mounting her and she cried like a baby, "I am scared" Oh boy, here we go again I thought. I tried to explain things to her about safety and condoms but I got nowhere. I grabbed a condom and finished off inside her. We agreed to have lunch with her cousin, and I agreed to pay for some shopping. Stefany's cousin spoke English and had an American boyfriend, and I winced upon learning that. Stefany had stayed the night and asked for 500,000 COP which really is not that excessive given the exchange rate. The problem is that meeting her cousin had led to a sea change in attitude. I said goodbye to Stefany and told her that I might see her the following night because I had business plans, the business being meeting other women, and she seemed sad to see me go.
My plans were with Susan that night, and I had been looking forward to finally fucking her after months. I had seen her before in a hotel like eight months ago, and I had fucked so much the night before that I could not perform with her even though she was stunningly beautiful. She had given a heroic effort to get Junior hard but it was not to be.
So I change hotels and go to the Medellin Marriott. It is really nice. Gym and pool are open and are fabulous. I put Susan's name on the guest list. And she blows me off. "I am really busy studying and I do not know if I can meet." Say what? *****, I have been giving you money keeping you afloat through the quarantine and you do this?
I had a feeling the help I was giving was going to be all for naught, and in some ways, it was and it some ways it was not. More on that later. Anyway, I was somewhat horny and decided to go to Parque Lleras where there was not a hooker to be found.
I could reach out to Stefany again but I had soured on her attitude. There was a girl, a world class beauty on seeking I had talked to named Kiara. Thing with Kiara is that she bitched about how little the money I had given her. I told her that if she was going to be equally happy with the money I gave her and nothing, she could take nothing. I did not know how she would respond if I reached out to her, but she responded to me, told me she was free and agreed to come see me.
Kiara was one of the two world class beauties I had met on my trip. She looked as good if not better than she did in her pictures. She had a car, parked in the garage, and I was able to sneak her in without paying a guest fee.
We ordered dinner and when we talked, it was like one word answer after another. Finally, she said, "I have to get going so if we are going to be intimate, now is the time." Kiara basically was using seeking not as a sugar baby but as pay for play, but she was so hot, I was cool with that.
I paid her $100 for basically two hours and I thought she would be lousy in bed, but she went at sex like a true Colombian and even got off but everything was covered and there was no DFK.
While this girl truly had super model looks, she did not have what I would call a super model type feel and was not tight all over like I expected. Still, if you want to fuck a 10 in Medellin, you should get on [URL]seeking.com[/URL] and message Kiara and see if she responds. I am sure she gets a lot of messages on seeking though and you are going to have play yourself up like you are really rich to get her attention though.
This is a repost but important enough to justify.
So far, the epidemiological evidence proves immunity. If immunity were not conferred, or wears off, you would hear about it everywhere and this would be a major blow against the war against coronavirus. That is simply not happening. Focusing on rare cases of reinfection misses the point and shows a lack of understanding of basic epidemiology and population health.
Rare, extremely rare, reports of reinfection with coronavirus support the immunity model, contrary to what you might think. Even if there are 10 or 100 or 1000 or 10,000 cases of reinfection reported, that supports the immunity model. BTW, most of these cases or reinfection are here say, but that is a moot point. I will explain it the best I can:
Many of the so called experts do not understand the epidemiology either, but the concept is not difficult. If immunity was not conferred by previous infection, then based on the known "attack" rate of the virus there would be tens of thousands to over a hundred thousand repeat cases in the United States alone, and hundreds of thousands of repeat cases if not millions, worldwide. This is simply not happening. These rare case reports of reinfection support the immunity model because they are in fact so very rare and not overwhelming.
There are a multitude of reasons why rare reinfections would be possible. The incidence of autoimmune diseases in the general population alone more than explains it, which would prevent these folks from developing a proper antibody immune response to the primary infection with coronavirus. The error rate of false positives and false negatives in the tests used to diagnose coronavirus would also go a long way to explaining the rare reinfections.
Finally, it's very personal for me because myself and my Colombian girlfriend have recovered from coronavirus. I was tested for antibodies a few weeks after I recovered, which came back "positive" or good, so I know I am immune. So is my girlfriend. One big less thing for us to worry about when I return. I also know every time I go get a PCR coronavirus antigen test that they are making everyone get, it will be negative. My novia and I joke about our "bubble of immunity" around us, but it's no joke. I would not show the antibody test result to immigration because it says "positive" and they are not intelligent enough to understand what it means, or more correctly, they are just following orders or policy.
Don't misquote me, the immunity might not be permanent but there is just as good a chance that it will be. But if immunity wanes, or a new strain develops where the current antibodies are not effective, it will quickly become evident by reports or large numbers of people getting coronavirus again. For now I am immune as is anyone who got infected and made antibodies, to the current strain, and basic statistics from the epidemiology proves it. Not lab tests, not opinions from infectious disease specialists, not agency heads, not politicians, not theory, not blogs, but fact. The main reason positive antibody test results are not accepted as proof of immunity is because the test is not FDA approved, and not because of some pathophysiology loophole. The average healthy person without any autoimmune disorder will make antibodies to a coronavirus infection. You have to be really sick with some other problem to not make antibodies, such as advanced HIV, or heavy-duty chemotherapy or radiation therapy for cancer.
[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2490998]Its great to have a friend with benefits and do something for them that improves their life. Congratulations, that's a home run. She looks similar to my current housekeeper that comes to my apartment. I had to replace my prior girl (whom I absolutely adore) because she said she got a job in an Envigado restaurant. My current housekeeper is 20 years with flawless mocha / black skin. I was introduced by a friend and I offered her the job. Its not free, but between the cleaning and the sex its an incredible bargain. No kids and Her figure is remarkable. I had to measure her. 31" bust (gravity does not seem to exist under her shirt), 22" !! Waist. 32" ass / hips (again gravity immune). Really sweet and shy. A bit inhibited in bed but no strict boundaries.
By contrast, I spent the late afternoon / early evening in Conejitas yesterday. Not a lot of outstanding dancers. In fact some really big or even obese ladies on stage. However, I took a slim proportioned Venezolana with beautiful milky white skin. (The full extreme contrast to my mocha black housekeeper.) Big sexy glasses. A bit mechanical and business like with the typical first encounter boundaries. But, hey she's fucking a complete stranger from another culture, I get it. But I enjoyed it a lot. The "dirty secretary" experience. Will likely see her more.[/QUOTE]I'll comment on just one. You are so right about "typical first encounters." I always say the first time with a girl is a get acquainted session and the second one is when you start to see what she really has to offer. Put yourself in her shoes, like you did. For Christ's sakes she has to worry about safety, perversion, all kinds of scary shite. We do too, but that's not the point. When I say "get acquainted" I still mean fuck as many of their holes as soon as possible, but the real fun usually starts with the return visit, when you both have acknowledged, "Hey, this was fun, let's do it again" and more. I treat my girls in a way that encourages them to want to return and that pays off in the long run. BTW, that does not mean simply throwing pesos at them.
The one caveat that jumps out at me is if you only have a short time to visit, then this approach may not make as much sense for you. But even if you have only one week, a return visit with a girl you know you like is usually more fun that the first visit. Oh fuck, I almost contradicted one of my most important rules: Never bring back a girl within 24 hours or the next night after she left. Trust me on this one, not enough time and space to explain everything, but bring her back in 3, 4 days or a week. Every time I have not followed this rule, I have regretted it. Every--single--time. You just had an unbelievable rock-your-socks-off-all-night-fuck-fest and as she is leaving at sunrise, you are tempted to ask her back for that evening. Don't do it. I'll write more about it later, but for now, don't do it.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2491212]If you're so sure you've had corona virus, wouldn't that mean you wouldn't get it again?
For, the kissing is a big part of the experience, but I understand where you're coming from. To each his own.[/QUOTE]It's fairly clear from the scientific community at this point that any immunity received is short lived. 2-3 months.
[QUOTE=GringoTrooper;2491220]I'm not a doctor nor do I play one on tv, LOL, but I do agree with your statement in regards to antibody immunity. Even if I'm not immune, I'm relatively young, so getting it a second time wouldn't be the end of the world.
Also, I don't always practice what I preach. Sometimes, if the chemistry is there and she's super fine, then yes, I'll go for besos also. I just pray that the chica didn't just finish sucking some dude's the, right before I hook up with her LOL.[/QUOTE]The only thing crystal clear about this virus is THEY DON"T KNOW! They have been guessing about this virus for a year. Reversing opinions almost daily. I'm done with all of it. I'll try to stay safe by wearing a mask and washing my hands, and using sanitizer frequently. Other than that. Fuck it! I'm ignoring all of the politically inspired bullshit. How do you explain a husband and wife in a jail cell size cruise cabin, one gets the virus and the other not??
[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2491310]It's fairly clear from the scientific community at this point that any immunity received is short lived. 2-3 months.[/QUOTE]What the hell are you talking about? There was a paper literally released yesterday that said that immunity doesn't fall off quickly. [URL]https://immunology.sciencemag.org/content/5/52/eabe5511[/URL].
"Our findings that the IgG response to SARS-CoV-2 antigens is stable over a 3-month period are consistent with other studies who likewise noted durability in the IgG response to the spike trimer".
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2491316] How do you explain a husband and wife in a jail cell size cruise cabin, one gets the virus and the other not??[/QUOTE]It is not impossible. It is only very unlikely. How many such cases were documented? Over millions of cases where disease was transmitted?
Disease transmission is a random phenomenon, where the probability of "success" depends on a quantity of various factors. One is the number of virus particles that enter the body, another the level of immunity. Even if you are vaccinated you can get a disease (the probability depends on how effective is the vaccine), while every year people who are not vaccinated do not get the flue (some of them will claim that the vaccine is useless). Nothing is 100,00% certain in medicine. Still knowing how to impact probabilities is a lot.
[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2491225]I am working on my list for the next trip. I have found a new 18 year old. Doesn't seem to be a puta. Has not asked me for a dime. Since she appears to be a non-pro, I would normally not share a foto. However, this foto does not show her face. And it relates to our discussion about beautiful pussies and chicas that have kids (this chica has a baby). I plan to eat her until she can't take any more. To me, this is one yummy pussy.
P.S. - if she turns out to be a prepago, I'll share her info if she wants me to. But I'm hoping she's not. Love girl next store pussy.[/QUOTE]Very unlikely a non / puta would give you a photo of her pussy. Yeah, that's a beautiful vagina.
[QUOTE=Combo;2491344]Very unlikely a non / puta would give you a photo of her pussy. Yeah, that's a beautiful vagina.[/QUOTE]I don't know man, I don't know how old you are, but I'm guessing the relative age of most mongers here put them in different generations than the girls we're chasing after. I get the feeling that pussy and dick picks are pretty common these days among the youngsters.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2491244]I awoke that morning with an erection and Stefany took care of me again, but this time, I reminded her that I wanted her [/QUOTE]Hey, thanks for the post. Very entertaining text. Just wondering what will happen if 1 of these girls finds out her pictures are being posted online? What if she retaliates? What if she gets violent?
Unless the girl is some sort of gem that cannot be replaced and that inspires a guy to pay more then 400,000 or 300,000 per meeting is okay. For the 1st meeting 500,000 is okay but then the price should go down closer to 300,000 or 400,000. This is a lot of money in MED. Let them go. If they want to charge rates from other continents They should go make friends in San Francisco and they will see not everything is golden there either. Plus, she's good looking but she is not an out of league sex goddess. Some of these girls think they are Lebron James.
Elvis is doing pretty good negotiating. But speaking of other guys. Have you guys had any male friends who acted like snobs when it came to money. Always making little sly comments about how rich they are or about their dads new store, or how now they are paying taxes in an offshore tax haven. These people come off as arrogant, snobby, and people often wonder if they are lying. All I'm saying guys, it doesn't pay off to act rich and throw money around. I think the girls will appreciate more down to earth humble Generous type of man. It's probably better to say I'm going to pay this amount so you can be happy and have fun and get to work but please don't think I have all this money that I can just throw around. And I hope that whatever you got you give back even more yourself with effort and hard work.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2491244]I awoke that morning with an erection and Stefany took care of me again, but this time, I reminded her that I wanted her to go bare as she had agreed to. I got close to mounting her and she cried like a baby, "I am scared" Oh boy, here we go again I thought. I tried to explain things to her about safety and condoms but I got nowhere. I grabbed a condom and finished off inside her. We agreed to have lunch with her cousin, and I agreed to pay for some shopping. Stefany's cousin spoke English and had an American boyfriend, and I winced upon learning that. Stefany had stayed the night and asked for 500,000 COP which really is not that excessive given the exchange rate. The problem is that meeting her cousin had led to a sea change in attitude. I said goodbye to Stefany and told her that I might see her the following night because I had business plans, the business being meeting other women, and she seemed sad to see me go.
My plans were with Susan that night, and I had been looking forward to finally fucking her after months. I had seen her before in a hotel like eight months ago, and I had fucked so much the night before that I could not perform with her even though she was stunningly beautiful. She had given a heroic effort to get Junior hard but it was not to be.
So I change hotels and go to the Medellin Marriott. It is really nice. Gym and pool are open and are fabulous. I put Susan's name on the guest list. And she blows me off. "I am really busy studying and I do not know if I can meet." Say what? *****, I have been giving you money keeping you afloat through the quarantine and you do this?
I had a feeling the help I was giving was going to be all for naught, and in some ways, it was and it some ways it was not. More on that later. Anyway, I was somewhat horny and decided to go to Parque Lleras where there was not a hooker to be found.
I could reach out to Stefany again but I had soured on her attitude. There was a girl, a world class beauty on seeking I had talked to named Kiara. Thing with Kiara is that she bitched about how little the money I had given her. I told her that if she was going to be equally happy with the money I gave her and nothing, she could take nothing. I did not know how she would respond if I reached out to her, but she responded to me, told me she was free and agreed to come see me.
Kiara was one of the two world class beauties I had met on my trip. She looked as good if not better than she did in her pictures. She had a car, parked in the garage, and I was able to sneak her in without paying a guest fee.
We ordered dinner and when we talked, it was like one word answer after another. Finally, she said, "I have to get going so if we are going to be intimate, now is the time." Kiara basically was using seeking not as a sugar baby but as pay for play, but she was so hot, I was cool with that.
I paid her $100 for basically two hours and I thought she would be lousy in bed, but she went at sex like a true Colombian and even got off but everything was covered and there was no DFK.
While this girl truly had super model looks, she did not have what I would call a super model type feel and was not tight all over like I expected. Still, if you want to fuck a 10 in Medellin, you should get on [URL]seeking.com[/URL] and message Kiara and see if she responds. I am sure she gets a lot of messages on seeking though and you are going to have play yourself up like you are really rich to get her attention though.[/QUOTE]You met her on [URL]Seeking.com[/URL]? Any other websites you recommend to make contact with girls (other than Facebook) that I should use? Colombiacupid maybe?
Showdown.
I agree. Some of my other young non-pros send me fotos and videos on occasion to keep me interested. If this new girls is a pro, I'll be surprised. But based on 15 years of experience, I know that you never know until you actually see them.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2491354]I don't know man, I don't know how old you are, but I'm guessing the relative age of most mongers here put them in different generations than the girls we're chasing after. I get the feeling that pussy and dick picks are pretty common these days among the youngsters.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2491244]
I put Susan's name on the guest list. And she blows me off. "I am really busy studying and I do not know if I can meet." Say what? *****, I have been giving you money keeping you afloat through the quarantine and you do this?
I had a feeling the help I was giving was going to be all for naught, and in some ways, it was and it some ways it was not. More on that later. Anyway, I was somewhat horny and decided to go to Parque Lleras where there was not a hooker to be found.
I could reach out to Stefany again but I had soured on her attitude. There was a girl, a world class beauty on seeking I had talked to named Kiara. Thing with Kiara is that she bitched about how little the money I had given her. I told her that if she was going to be equally happy with the money I gave her and nothing, she could take nothing. I did not know how she would respond if I reached out to her, but she responded to me, told me she was free and agreed to come see me.
Kiara was one of the two world class beauties I had met on my trip. She looked as good if not better than she did in her pictures. She had a car, parked in the garage, and I was able to sneak her in without paying a guest fee.
We ordered dinner and when we talked, it was like one word answer after another. Finally, she said, "I have to get going so if we are going to be intimate, now is the time." Kiara basically was using seeking not as a sugar baby but as pay for play, but she was so hot, I was cool with that.
I paid her $100 for basically two hours and I thought she would be lousy in bed, but she went at sex like a true Colombian and even got off but everything was covered and there was no DFK.
While this girl truly had super model looks, she did not have what I would call a super model type feel and was not tight all over like I expected. Still, if you want to fuck a 10 in Medellin, you should get on [URL]seeking.com[/URL] and message Kiara and see if she responds. I am sure she gets a lot of messages on seeking though and you are going to have play yourself up like you are really rich to get her attention though.[/QUOTE]Western union fails again. Guys. Just don't do it. . and sir. You waaaaaaay overpaid for all of this.
[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2491252]This is a repost but important enough to justify.
So far, the epidemiological evidence proves immunity. If immunity were not conferred, or wears off, you would hear about it everywhere and this would be a major blow against the war against coronavirus. That is simply not happening. Focusing on rare cases of reinfection misses the point and shows a lack of understanding of basic epidemiology and population health.
Rare, extremely rare, reports of reinfection with coronavirus support the immunity model, contrary to what you might think. Even if there are 10 or 100 or 1000 or 10,000 cases of reinfection reported, that supports the immunity model. BTW, most of these cases or reinfection are here say, but that is a moot point. I will explain it the best I can:
Many of the so called experts do not understand the epidemiology either, but the concept is not difficult. If immunity was not conferred by previous infection, then based on the known "attack" rate of the virus there would be tens of thousands to over a hundred thousand repeat cases in the United States alone, and hundreds of thousands of repeat cases if not millions, worldwide. This is simply not happening. These rare case reports of reinfection support the immunity model because they are in fact so very rare and not overwhelming.
There are a multitude of reasons why rare reinfections would be possible. The incidence of autoimmune diseases in the general population alone more than explains it, which would prevent these folks from developing a proper antibody immune response to the primary infection with coronavirus. The error rate of false positives and false negatives in the tests used to diagnose coronavirus would also go a long way to explaining the rare reinfections.
Finally, it's very personal for me because myself and my Colombian girlfriend have recovered from coronavirus. I was tested for antibodies a few weeks after I recovered, which came back "positive" or good, so I know I am immune. So is my girlfriend. One big less thing for us to worry about when I return. I also know every time I go get a PCR coronavirus antigen test that they are making everyone get, it will be negative. My novia and I joke about our "bubble of immunity" around us, but it's no joke. I would not show the antibody test result to immigration because it says "positive" and they are not intelligent enough to understand what it means, or more correctly, they are just following orders or policy.
Don't misquote me, the immunity might not be permanent but there is just as good a chance that it will be. But if immunity wanes, or a new strain develops where the current antibodies are not effective, it will quickly become evident by reports or large numbers of people getting coronavirus again. For now I am immune as is anyone who got infected and made antibodies, to the current strain, and basic statistics from the epidemiology proves it. Not lab tests, not opinions from infectious disease specialists, not agency heads, not politicians, not theory, not blogs, but fact. The main reason positive antibody test results are not accepted as proof of immunity is because the test is not FDA approved, and not because of some pathophysiology loophole. The average healthy person without any autoimmune disorder will make antibodies to a coronavirus infection. You have to be really sick with some other problem to not make antibodies, such as advanced HIV, or heavy-duty chemotherapy or radiation therapy for cancer.[/QUOTE]I know a 3 people and a family of 5 who had covid earlier in the year and are not showing any detectable antibodies now in October. So about 4-5 months later.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2491362]
Unless the girl is some sort of gem that cannot be replaced and that inspires a guy to pay more then 400,000 or 300,000 per meeting is okay. For the 1st meeting 500,000 is okay but then the price should go down closer to 300,000 or 400,000. This is a lot of money in MED. Let them go. If they want to charge rates from other continents They should go make friends in San Francisco and they will see not everything is golden there either. Plus, she's good looking but she is not an out of league sex goddess. Some of these girls think they are Lebron James.
.[/QUOTE]Paying more than 200 K absolute top is a disgrace. And you're polluting the playing field for everybody else. Knock it off please.
[QUOTE=Rextor;2491317]What the hell are you talking about? There was a paper literally released yesterday that said that immunity doesn't fall off quickly. [URL]https://immunology.sciencemag.org/content/5/52/eabe5511[/URL].
"Our findings that the IgG response to SARS-CoV-2 antigens is stable over a 3-month period are consistent with other studies who likewise noted durability in the IgG response to the spike trimer".[/QUOTE]I said 3 months, then you freaked out and said 3 months. Uh, what.
The study you posted also says this "Longitudinal analysis revealed that anti-SARS-CoV-2 IgA and IgM antibodies *rapidly decayed*, while IgG antibodies remained relatively stable up to 105 days PSO in both biofluids. ".
"The detection of antibodies to SARS-CoV-2 does not indicate directly protective immunity and correlates of protection for COVID-19 have not yet been established. ".
Here's one that says 6 to 12 months if it makes you feel better.
"Based on the minimum infection intervals and the observed dynamics of antibody waning, the study showed that the duration of protective immunity may last 6 to 12 months. ".
[URL]https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/covid-19/latest-evidence/immune-responses[/URL]
[QUOTE=Frank11;2491362]For the 1st meeting 500,000 is okay but then the price should go down closer to 300,000 or 400,000. [/QUOTE]Yeah this makes no sense at all. Today I am hiring you to paint a house and I am going to pay you $1000. Next week I need you to come paint the same size house, but then that day I will pay you $600. You would probably tell me to go fuck myself.
If you want to pay less than 500,000 then you better set something lower than that as the expectation from the beginning. It is easy to get someone to accept extra. It is hard to get them to accept less than what you have gotten them accustomed to. An exception would be to make it clear at the time of the 500,000 deal that you will pay that one time only and from here on out you will only pay 300,000.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2491396]Yeah this makes no sense at all. Today I am hiring you to paint a house and I am going to pay you $1000. Next week I need you to come paint the same size house, but then that day I will pay you $600. You would probably tell me to go fuck myself.
If you want to pay less than 500,000 then you better set something lower than that as the expectation from the beginning. It is easy to get someone to accept extra. It is hard to get them to accept less than what you have gotten them accustomed to. An exception would be to make it clear at the time of the 500,000 deal that you will pay that one time only and from here on out you will only pay 300,000.[/QUOTE]Actually, I have used this method under exceptional circumstances many times.
One night, many years ago, I was in a GoGo club in Phuket. I went nuts about this girl but she did not want to have anything to do with me. She was ok with me buying her drinks, but she clearly preferred my competition, a young, good looking German dude. I only had 3 days left on my trip up there, and I wanted to bang that chick so bad. So, I started giving her generous tips while she was dancing on stage. My competitor did not follow suit, and towards the end of the night she realized that I was her sugar daddy that night. I ended up taking her to my hotel that night, but I did not follow up with her, she was not that good in the sack. I have also done this in the German FKKs many times.
But if I lived there, I would use this method more often. In cases where I like the WG and wish to repeat, I would have no problem re-negotiating a lower payment in line with market pricing.
[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2491386]Western union fails again. Guys. Just don't do it. . and sir. You waaaaaaay overpaid for all of this.[/QUOTE]We really don't need the price police looking over our shoulders. We are grown up and we can read, I. E. RTFF. Please knock it off.
This is a true market place, you are welcome to offer as much, or as little, as you wish, Assuming you find takers.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2491244]I awoke that morning with an erection and Stefany took care of me again, but this time, I reminded her that I wanted her to go bare as she had agreed to...[/QUOTE]Thanks for taking the time to post this intel buddy. Excellent report!
[QUOTE=Lefeu;2491409]We really don't need the price police looking over our shoulders. We are grown up and we can read, I. E. RTFF. Please knock it off.
This is a true market place, you are welcome to offer as much, or as little, as you wish, Assuming you find takers.[/QUOTE]This is an open forum and he can give his opinion about prices if he likes. He can also give his opinions about sending girls money. Actually the post from Elvis 2008 is a cautionary tale. He reported sending girls all total 1500 a month for a number of months while he was waiting to get in Colombia. He arrives and one essentially tells me that he wasn't sending enough thus she owes him nothing. The next one rushed him, wouldn't kiss him, plus overcharged him. 100 dollars for two hours, especially in the present market is too much, even though she faked an orgasm for him. 200 mil pesos is plenty. Yes he posted photos, and independents just as hot or hotter can be had for 150 to 200 mil, easy. And if you go into the Centro casas and strip clubs and are patient, you can pluck out equal quality for 40 to 100 mil or 12 to 30 dollars, though for a briefer encounter. That's the way it is, and the membership here deserves to hear this information, even if angers someone like yourself.
[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2491388]I know a 3 people and a family of 5 who had covid earlier in the year and are not showing any detectable antibodies now in October. So about 4-5 months later.[/QUOTE]All 5 people in one family got Covid? And why were they all re tested for antibodies? And why would you know 8 people who have been retested for antibodies? Do you work at a lab or something?
You missing a couple of major points. Don't worry, you are not alone and a lot of the so-called experts don't get it, either. The repeat lab tests for antibodies are meaningless if they don't predict reinfection. I don't use lab tests for evidence of reinfection, I use the number of sick people who got reinfected, which would be in the millions if people were not immune from prior coronavirus infection. That is the only true measure. Did any of the 8 people you claim (an extraordinary number for one person to know about, BTW) get sick again with Covid? Even if you say yes after the fact, the epidemiology proves, up to this point in time, that immunity is conferred by primary infection. Not lab tests, not pundits, not politicos, not physicians, etc. Look for outcomes and not processes. I am not arguing the point to prove I am correct, even though I am. I simply don't want people to have unwarranted fears. If your statements are accurate and I have my doubts, then the only thing you may have proved is retesting for antibodies does not predict lack of immunity. This is consistent with how a body becomes immune and reveals your basic lack of understanding of medical physiology. You do not need to have measurable antibodies to be immune. The be cells of your humoral immune system retain MEMORY on how to remanufacture antibodies if reexposed, is how it usually works. This mechanism remains to be proven with Covid, but is probably true.
If and when the immunity wears off, the epidemiological evidence will be obvious, interconvertible, overwhelming, and undeniable. Until then, chillax.
[QUOTE=Combo;2491344]Very unlikely a non / puta would give you a photo of her pussy. Yeah, that's a beautiful vagina.[/QUOTE]Most of my girls and not sex workers and I have never been refused a pussy foto. Now, if you are talking about a photo that shows the face and pussy at the same time, that is puta material. But pussy photos are like greeting cards to Colombian chicas jajaja.
[QUOTE=Lefeu;2491409]We really don't need the price police looking over our shoulders. We are grown up and we can read, I. E. RTFF. Please knock it off.
This is a true market place, you are welcome to offer as much, or as little, as you wish, Assuming you find takers.[/QUOTE]Hey bro I feel your pain. It's natural, everybody gets tense when we talk about money. However, imagine a Man from Alabama spent 800,000 for 3 hours At seeking arrangement. So the forum members tell him hey good for you you had a good time but we just want to let you know politely that you could get 6 to 8 hours with 800,000 split into 2 dates. So the man from Alabama tells us thanks for letting me know I'll do it next time. In this way a healthy conversation about pricing is beneficial to everyone. Also a lot of girls do not want to overcharge the customer for fear of reprisal. I have Personally heard them say this.
In the science of negotiation. It is established that the prices need to be public knowledge to keep the market fair. If nobody could disclose their income then the employers would have an advantage when negotiating salaries. That is why there are entire website devoted to making salaries public and even in Google employees can post their income in public bulletin within the company ground.
Anyone can pay more if They want to. But it may be beneficial to establish the surplus as a tip or a gift from a friend who appreciates the girl. She should be thankful. If The guy goes out and pays more she may think He is a sucker instead of a generous man Giving a tip.
So in summary we can all benefit from a healthy conversation about money. Not talking about it would be a mistake.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2491396]An exception would be to make it clear at the time of the 500,000 deal that you will pay that one time only and from here on out you will only pay 300,000.[/QUOTE]Yes that's right. The higher price is for the 1st day only. Make that clear from the start. So these prices are for seeking. 3 hours for 300,000 seems to be part of the standard. And yes, the standard can vary and has a range. The problem is she may have 2 or 3 other guys offering her 300,000. So if this is the case and may be necessary for the 1st date to be higher that way the guy can Lure her in. Then for the 2nd and 3rd date the girl may agree to a lower price because she already knows the guy is trustworthy, he has a nice place, it safe, and he's not going to try to fuk her ass for 180 minutes like some other idiot wanted to.
Of course there is no need to pay 500,000 for the 1st date all the time. If the guy is not choosy about finding a specific girl he can just go for another Girl that doesn't have simultaneous offers and will gladly accept 300,000. It depends, do you have other alternatives?
[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2491391]Paying more than 200 K absolute top is a disgrace. And you're polluting the playing field for everybody else. Knock it off please.[/QUOTE]Well I think what was mentioned was 300,000 through 500,000 for a 3 hour date on seeking With 1 of the top girls.
If you got a 3 hour date with a top girl on seeking for 200,000 please tell us about it. Or, What exactly are you talking about? I think that 200,000 could work with some of the girls but Would it work with the top girls?
Some of the girls on seeking don't even work in the economy massage parlors where the girls are more affordable. And then again Some of the girls on seeking look like they couldn't even get a date for free These girls may actually have to pay a guy.
Also how much is the going range for Facebook girls ? Because I think some guys mentioned 150,000 maybe someone said 200,000.
Also there are some escort ads with pretty women that say 120 for one hour 240 for 2 hours.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2491437]Well I think what was mentioned was 300,000 through 500,000 for a 3 hour date on seeking With 1 of the top girls.
If you got a 3 hour date with a top girl on seeking for 200,000 please tell us about it. Or, What exactly are you talking about? I think that 200,000 could work with some of the girls but Would it work with the top girls?
Some of the girls on seeking don't even work in the economy massage parlors where the girls are more affordable. And then again Some of the girls on seeking look like they couldn't even get a date for free These girls may actually have to pay a guy.
Also how much is the going range for Facebook girls ? Because I think some guys mentioned 150,000 maybe someone said 200,000.
Also there are some escort ads with pretty women that say 120 for one hour 240 for 2 hours.[/QUOTE]Each girls going rate is different. They will try to get as much as they can out of you. You need to negotiate. One girl I was chatting with started out at 350 k, she quickly dropped down to 150 k. I thought more about and was a bit pissed that she started out at 350. I would have more respect for her if she stuck to her initial price. At least then I know she wasn't trying to swindle me at first.
These are the pics she sent me. Is that worth 150? Depends on you and the girl and the market. If you are really finding 10's, 400 k doesn't sound like that much, but I suspect what's happening with most guys is that they don't know the market down here and they're really paying 350 k for 6's.
To sum it all up, there are sooooo many girls on facebook. Its really not hard. I've had 100 percent success rate asking girls if they will fuck for money on facebook. Without much effort I've gotten most of the offers down to 150 k, but I've actually been too busy with other avenues to actually take a girl up on an offer.
There is 1 facebook girl, who has really caught my eye. I've been putting a little extra effort with her. She hasnn't mentioned pricing yet. So maybe she's a newbie. We shall hopefully see soon.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2491424]Hey bro I feel your pain. It's natural, everybody gets tense when we talk about money. However, imagine a Man from Alabama spent 800,000 for 3 hours At seeking arrangement. So the forum members tell him hey good for you you had a good time but we just want to let you know politely that you could get 6 to 8 hours with 800,000 split into 2 dates. So the man from Alabama tells us thanks for letting me know I'll do it next time. In this way a healthy conversation about pricing is beneficial to everyone. Also a lot of girls do not want to overcharge the customer for fear of reprisal. I have Personally heard them say this.
[/QUOTE]Reprisal from what or who? I don't get it. Its your own fault if you overpay. 90 percent of the time they will never see you again. They will try to get as much money as they can from you and they are not going to cry about it. Maybe laugh, but not cry.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2491468]Reprisal from what or who? I don't get it. Its your own fault if you overpay. 90 percent of the time they will never see you again. They will try to get as much money as they can from you and they are not going to cry about it. Maybe laugh, but not cry.[/QUOTE]Well 1 girl said to me I don't like to take more money than the standard price because it's their money. And she had this face like she just didn't want to mess with people. She was talking to me about what she does when guys give her more money than she wants. I think she just didn't want to do something wrong. I don't know anymore I would have to ask her to explain further. Another girl I gave her 500 she gave me 200 back and told me It's only 300. She was genuinely honest and for that reason alone she got a few more Gifts. I didn't go to another girl. I have to thank her by staying with her. The 3rd girl gave me 40 back and told me the tip wasn't necessary.
Yeah there's probably a all sorts of Girls that keep the extra money. I guess I was lucky. But sometimes honesty is sexy.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2491244]So I change hotels and go to the Medellin Marriott. It is really nice. Gym and pool are open and are fabulous. I put Susan's name on the guest list. And she blows me off. "I am really busy studying and I do not know if I can meet." Say what? *****, I have been giving you money keeping you afloat through the quarantine and you do this?
I had a feeling the help I was giving was going to be all for naught, .[/QUOTE]I am laughing my ass off right now. Mfs want to call themselves putting pussy on retainer by being a WUT (Western Union Trick). As many examples as there are (some dudes are even falling for the same shit multiple times!) and mfs still do not learn. Pay as you go: C.O.D.
As soon as this pandemic shit hit and guys were talking about sending money, I said you better keep your shit in your pocket. You do not know if you will end up needing it with the upcoming events and you do not know if you will ever see that chick again. But of course everybody knows what they are doing with their money and it is theirs to do as they see fit.
Yet 9 months later and some countries are still closed so it is impossible to see the girl and in other countries that have opened the girls that you sent all the money to is refusing to see you. I can't stop laughing about this shit. I told you, I told you!
A newbie would give you a price a real pro will take you for everything you have.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2491465]Each girls going rate is different. They will try to get as much as they can out of you. You need to negotiate. One girl I was chatting with started out at 350 k, she quickly dropped down to 150 k. I thought more about and was a bit pissed that she started out at 350. I would have more respect for her if she stuck to her initial price. At least then I know she wasn't trying to swindle me at first.
These are the pics she sent me. Is that worth 150? Depends on you and the girl and the market. If you are really finding 10's, 400 k doesn't sound like that much, but I suspect what's happening with most guys is that they don't know the market down here and they're really paying 350 k for 6's.
To sum it all up, there are sooooo many girls on facebook. Its really not hard. I've had 100 percent success rate asking girls if they will fuck for money on facebook. Without much effort I've gotten most of the offers down to 150 k, but I've actually been too busy with other avenues to actually take a girl up on an offer.
There is 1 facebook girl, who has really caught my eye. I've been putting a little extra effort with her. She hasnn't mentioned pricing yet. So maybe she's a newbie. We shall hopefully see soon.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2491423]Most of my girls and not sex workers and I have never been refused a pussy foto. Now, if you are talking about a photo that shows the face and pussy at the same time, that is puta material. But pussy photos are like greeting cards to Colombian chicas jajaja.[/QUOTE]I was actually checking out some of the talent you had posted in the past. Well done man, they all looked great.
In Colombia, I pretty much stopped hunting for non-pros, ever since I got into the P4P game.
It's a double edged sword, in my experience, because I definitely miss the chase and the pursuit. And I miss having the drive to pick up non-pros in the states and abroad.
Get your story straight-- you already said she did CIM the night before. So why the need to remind her unlike the previous night .. ?
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2491244]I awoke that morning with an erection and Stefany took care of me again, but this time, I reminded her that I wanted her to go bare as she had agreed to. I got close to mounting her and she cried like a baby, "I am scared" Oh boy, here we go again I thought. I tried to explain things to her about safety and condoms but I got nowhere. I grabbed a condom and finished off inside her. We agreed to have lunch with her cousin, and I agreed to pay for some shopping. Stefany's cousin spoke English and had an American boyfriend, and I winced upon learning that. Stefany had stayed the night and asked for 500,000 COP which really is not that excessive given the exchange rate. The problem is that meeting her cousin had led to a sea change in attitude. I said goodbye to Stefany and told her that I might see her the following night because I had business plans, the business being meeting other women, and she seemed sad to see me go.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Frank11;2491362]Hey, thanks for the post. Very entertaining text. Just wondering what will happen if 1 of these girls finds out her pictures are being posted online? What if she retaliates? What if she gets violent?[/QUOTE]Good for you Frank. You seemed to get the sugar baby concept.
Kiara was using [URL]seeking.com[/URL] as a prostitution site. She is a working girl who happens to be a 10 I wanted to bang. She was not good enough in the sack for me to see again, and I do not care about posting her pictures because I am never going to see her again.
Stefany is a much different case. She has not been with a guy other than me in the P4P world and I think that she has seen 3 guys in her lifetime. She is a college student that has been cooped up in Barranquilla going to school with strict parents who monitor her every move.
I did not finish up what happened with her. She texted me the next day wanting to get together. I said I might be able to get together with her late like around 10, and she countered that she wanted to meet for dinner at 5. She had asked me before if I was seeing other women, and I wanted to go bare with her, so I lied and told her no. She seemed not to believe me and asked for 300,000 COP more. I asked if she was going to go bare like she said. She said that she was not sure. I said that she seemed to be more interested in my money than keeping her word and pleasing me. She said I cared more about sex than her. I did not respond and have not spoken to her since.
This is what happens when a sweet innocent one gets her around her more worldly cousin. LOL. She will hang with her cousin convinced there is better out there, find out there is not, and text me and want to see me again. I am not interested. She had her chance and she blew it. I liked her look, her voice and her passion but I thought she would be more interested in pleasing me. I have no use for a woman who weasels out of her word and uses emotion as an excuse. As you will see, Frank, I could have gotten what I wanted eventually but she was not special enough for me to correct her or to wait on her.
As for women retaliating, that is the thought of someone stuck in the sex prison who needs to go to Colombia.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2491362]Unless the girl is some sort of gem that cannot be replaced and that inspires a guy to pay more then 400,000 or 300,000 per meeting is okay. For the 1st meeting 500,000 is okay but then the price should go down closer to 300,000 or 400,000. This is a lot of money in MED. Let them go. If they want to charge rates from other continents.[/QUOTE]Frank, she was a friend who had a need not a hooker I paid a price to. I cannot recall how many times I have told guys with SA / seeking who ask how much for a girl, "How about you start at zero and see how it goes?" If I told Stefany I was short of cash and would give her money later, I could have given her nothing and gotten away with it because I had supported her through the quarantine. I had given her grocery money so she and her family could eat, and I would do it again. The 500,000 COP was not a price but a gift.
Except for Kiara, there was no negotiating "price" or talk of money with ANY of the women I saw. If I gave them money, I put whatever I wanted to in the woman's purse when I was done. The most money I spent on anyone was on Jessica, and I did not give her a penny in cash. I bought her a swimsuit because I wanted to hang out by the pool with her and I bought medication for her and her mother.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2491362]All I'm saying guys, it doesn't pay off to act rich and throw money around. I think the girls will appreciate more down to earth humble Generous type of man. It's probably better to say I'm going to pay this amount so you can be happy and have fun and get to work but please don't think I have all this money that I can just throw around.[/QUOTE]You guys keep thinking in absolute terms. It depends on what it is for. You pay the medical bill for a girl's mother you are a hero. You spend $1000 for a bottle of vodka at a club to show off you are "rich", you look like a doofus.
On top of it, there is always something that impresses me. When I am doing well, I will ask a few of my women, "Are things going good? Do you need some help (as in money)?" Three of the women in my reports (Angel, the Queen, and Stacy) have said we do not need any money. That is one way that you know that they are not working girls.
They are tons of women out there that want to fuck guys for help once in a while and do not want to look like or feel like working girl. And even some if not most of them are really not interested in sinking their hooks into guys for child support or marriage. Especially in times like this, they just need some help, and those are the women I am after.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2491465]
To sum it all up, there are sooooo many girls on facebook. Its really not hard. I've had 100 percent success rate asking girls if they will fuck for money on facebook. Without much effort I've gotten most of the offers down to 150 k, but I've actually been too busy with other avenues to actually take a girl up on an offer.[/QUOTE]Interesting post with good information.
On seeking my friend Got a number 9 for 350,000 For 3 hours. He only found 2 other tens 1 of them turned down the 300,000 offer. She was a model and proof of it was Her Facebook working for brands and professional photographers. Sure there are many girls for 150 or 200,000 but Are they working with professional camera equipment. So the guy told her 800,000 for for a 4 hour date and the 2nd date 400,000 For 3 hours. But this is just because honestly there aren't that many supermodels on seeking. The number of tens is very very low. The other He set her up for multiple dates for 400,000. But then changed his mind and told me he could just jerk off. Because honestly the quality just isn't there. Even for these high 10s. Verified story I read all the private messages and And saw the all the pictures
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2491473]Pay as you go:[/QUOTE]Agreed as to your statements and Kafka's statements.
Lots of others could learn a thing or two from this instead of sending money to a chica you may never see in person.
For those interested in not being a simp anymore (I. E. Sending money via western union), consider learning from this legend, Tim Sharky.
[URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BSW6K5Jf5mk[/URL]
[QUOTE=Frank11;2491481]Interesting post with good information.[/QUOTE]You're really diving deep into this numbers / negotiation rabbit hole man.
I'm assuming you will be actually traveling to Colombia soon? LOL.
Day 3 was a day of totally unexpected and mostly good surprises. On the bad note, there were the events with Stefany.
The irony is that I had a similar spat with the girl I was to meet that afternoon, Jessie. Jessie was a girl I met in Medellin but did not have sex with the first time we met. Later, I flew her to Bogota and we got it on there, but she was a lousy companion. I lost count of how many times she said, "Ewww, I am not doing that. " I was very impressed with her outside the bedroom though. She is nearing completion of her civil engineering degree, was valedictorian in her high school class, and is an entrepreneur. When we had finished having our American sex prison style session, she had responded like an American woman spewing off crap about how she was disrespected ETC.
I had written her off as a hopeless ***** and she then months later begged me to help her because her mother was sick, and she needed my help. I told her if she did not give a fuck about how I felt, why should I care about her? She apologized, told me she was scared, and pleaded with me, "Please do not give up on me. I will try to please you if we are together again."
I bought her medications for herself and her family and we got her a swimsuit that she could wear by the pool. She looked great. We kissed on the mattress in the sun and junior was erect and wanting her badly. She stroked him and then giggled being embarrassed in public. Finally, we decided to go back to the room and have sex.
She did not DFK or do a BBBJ, but she mounted me bare and rode me as hard and as long as she possibly could. She was dripping with sweat, smiling, and her pussy drained white cum. Yes, Jessica finally fucked me like a Colombian girl should. She did not ask for any money and was happy with just the goods I bought her. She sent me a sweet text saying that she had a good time, was thrilled that I might be able to help her out with her business, and hoped that she would see me again soon.
I never dreamed that she would be a keeper.
I was contemplating what to do that night. Should I venture to Centro, check out a Casa? My flight to Cartagena was early in the morning but I wanted one more shot before I left.
And then the biggest surprise of them all happened. Susan texted me. Hell to the yea I screamed!
Susan is this 20 something coed that is stunning and comes from an upper class family and is sweet, horny, and compliant as the day is long. She showed up in these short shorts and tube top prompting every man to gawk at her. She looked like an Oriental sex doll. Management was screaming about a guest fee. Sigh. Well, I had waited months to boink this gal and no guest fee was going to stop me.
After we went to the hotel room, about ten seconds and two words later, her tongue was down my throat. 30 seconds later, my cock was in her mouth, and she was giving me great head. Three minutes later, she was riding me bare and having an orgasm. She was one of these one and done girls. She came and really was not that interested in further sex. So I got on top, and she complied but she was not that into it. I told her to flip over and fucked her doggie, and I got more of a reaction. Then I asked if I could fuck her in the ass. Muy bien, she replied. I still was not getting off, so I finally jerked myself off and came all over her face.
Even when I was writing this, Susan is sending me videos of her masturbating and texted, "I am playing with myself and thinking of you when I do it. " Shit, I wish I had had a girl like this when I was in college. She is an amazing freak, a total cum dumpster.
We probably talked for 5 minutes after we were done playing, and she said she had to go back to her studies. She is studying law and is pretty close to being done. I laughed at the irony of having been with a lawyer in Mexico before. The same was true now in Colombia. In America, lawyer fucks you. In Colombia, you fuck lawyer.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2491473]I am laughing my ass off right now. Mfs want to call themselves putting pussy on retainer by being a WUT (Western Union Trick). As many examples as there are (some dudes are even falling for the same shit multiple times!) and mfs still do not learn. Pay as you go: C.O.D.
As soon as this pandemic shit hit and guys were talking about sending money, I said you better keep your shit in your pocket. You do not know if you will end up needing it with the upcoming events and you do not know if you will ever see that chick again. But of course everybody knows what they are doing with their money and it is theirs to do as they see fit.
Yet 9 months later and some countries are still closed so it is impossible to see the girl and in other countries that have opened the girls that you sent all the money to is refusing to see you. I can't stop laughing about this shit. I told you, I told you![/QUOTE]Everyone knows these colombian girls, it never gets old! Do for those who do for me, end of story. Pollo negro is out!
[QUOTE=Kafka;2491475]A newbie would give you a price a real pro will take you for everything you have.[/QUOTE]Never on line, always discuss the details in person. 2 reasons, pics can be deceiving and you can get a better feel for their attitude. Also, once they arrive at your place you hold the edge and they are more apt to accept less than to leave empty handed.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2491396]Yeah this makes no sense at all. Today I am hiring you to paint a house and I am going to pay you $1000. Next week I need you to come paint the same size house, but then that day I will pay you $600. You would probably tell me to go fuck myself.
If you want to pay less than 500,000 then you better set something lower than that as the expectation from the beginning. It is easy to get someone to accept extra. It is hard to get them to accept less than what you have gotten them accustomed to. An exception would be to make it clear at the time of the 500,000 deal that you will pay that one time only and from here on out you will only pay 300,000.[/QUOTE]Mr. E. I never thought I'd hear the words "only pay 300,000" come out of your mouth. Are you sure you're alright?
[QUOTE=Frank11;2491472]Well 1 girl said to me I don't like to take more money than the standard price because it's their money. And she had this face like she just didn't want to mess with people. She was talking to me about what she does when guys give her more money than she wants. I think she just didn't want to do something wrong. I don't know anymore I would have to ask her to explain further. Another girl I gave her 500 she gave me 200 back and told me It's only 300. She was genuinely honest and for that reason alone she got a few more Gifts. I didn't go to another girl. I have to thank her by staying with her. The 3rd girl gave me 40 back and told me the tip wasn't necessary.
Yeah there's probably a all sorts of Girls that keep the extra money. I guess I was lucky. But sometimes honesty is sexy.[/QUOTE]My petite teen milk maiden dropped by on Monday. Brief but enthusiastic session for 60 k. And she paid her own taxi. There was woman-leche and man-leche flying all around. Received her 60 k with a grateful attitude. 50 k +10 k. I offered a bit extra for taxi to home. I only had a 20 k and handed it to her. She promptly gave back to me the 10 k bill. Sweet girl.
You are spot on. The pandemic is only a minor detail. The Western Union game hasn't changed since Day 1. It is a sucker's game. God bless those who choose to play but it is a sucker's game.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2491473]I am laughing my ass off right now. Mfs want to call themselves putting pussy on retainer by being a WUT (Western Union Trick). As many examples as there are (some dudes are even falling for the same shit multiple times!) and mfs still do not learn. Pay as you go: C.O.D.
As soon as this pandemic shit hit and guys were talking about sending money, I said you better keep your shit in your pocket. You do not know if you will end up needing it with the upcoming events and you do not know if you will ever see that chick again. But of course everybody knows what they are doing with their money and it is theirs to do as they see fit.
Yet 9 months later and some countries are still closed so it is impossible to see the girl and in other countries that have opened the girls that you sent all the money to is refusing to see you. I can't stop laughing about this shit. I told you, I told you![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2491504]My petite teen milk maiden dropped by on Monday. Brief but enthusiastic session for 60 k. And she paid her own taxi. There was woman-leche and man-leche flying all around. Received her 60 k with a grateful attitude. 50 k +10 k. I offered a bit extra for taxi to home. I only had a 20 k and handed it to her. She promptly gave back to me the 10 k bill. Sweet girl.[/QUOTE]I would be happy anytime day or night with that. Only thing else we could possibly want, OK me want, is close up pussy pic. Keep on keepin' on bro'.
[QUOTE=Kafka;2491478]Get your story straight-- you already said she did CIM the night before. So why the need to remind her unlike the previous night .. ?[/QUOTE]I think you need to look in the abbreviations to learn what CIM means because you must not know. There is a difference between BBBJ and BBFS.
Bare backed a Colombian hooker? How stupid can you be?
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2491509]I think you need to look in the abbreviations to learn what CIM means because you must not know. There is a difference between BBBJ and BBFS.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Combo;2491495]Mr. E. I never thought I'd hear the words "only pay 300,000" come out of your mouth. Are you sure you're alright?[/QUOTE]No no no. I was only using 300,000 in reference to what Brother Frank was saying. I would never pay or recommend paying that much. On the other hand, Spider's prices are what I am used to.
[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2491504]My petite teen milk maiden dropped by on Monday. Brief but enthusiastic session for 60 k. And she paid her own taxi. There was woman-leche and man-leche flying all around. Received her 60 k with a grateful attitude. 50 k +10 k.Sweet girl.[/QUOTE]Those areolas brought tears to my eyes. You are a lucky man.
[QUOTE=GringoTrooper;2491476]I was actually checking out some of the talent you had posted in the past. Well done man, they all looked great.
In Colombia, I pretty much stopped hunting for non-pros, ever since I got into the P4P game.
It's a double edged sword, in my experience, because I definitely miss the chase and the pursuit. And I miss having the drive to pick up non-pros in the states and abroad.[/QUOTE]Like Thailand, Vietnam, Brazil, Colombia. . . I had a decent game in the USA back in the day, but now I don't seem to care or want to try here because it's so easy there. I think I know what you mean by double edged sword. I've been in bed twice with two different girls here in the good ol USA since the start of Covid. Neither girl was much to look at and would have not gotten a glance by me in Colombia. My approach here in the USA is crass and honest, something like, "I'm used to having more pussy than I know what to do with in Colombia. I am going through pussy withdrawal. If your pussy is clean I'll go down on you. " Blah, blah, blah. Jajajajaja. So I haven't been slapped yet. I have been called an asshole a bunch a times. And two times girls said, "let's go" and we had a romp. One Night Stands of Safe Sex. Empty feeling and bored by the next morning. Oh well.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2491465]Each girls going rate is different. They will try to get as much as they can out of you. You need to negotiate. One girl I was chatting with started out at 350 k, she quickly dropped down to 150 k. I thought more about and was a bit pissed that she started out at 350. I would have more respect for her if she stuck to her initial price. At least then I know she wasn't trying to swindle me at first.
These are the pics she sent me. Is that worth 150? Depends on you and the girl and the market. If you are really finding 10's, 400 k doesn't sound like that much, but I suspect what's happening with most guys is that they don't know the market down here and they're really paying 350 k for 6's.
To sum it all up, there are sooooo many girls on facebook. Its really not hard. I've had 100 percent success rate asking girls if they will fuck for money on facebook. Without much effort I've gotten most of the offers down to 150 k, but I've actually been too busy with other avenues to actually take a girl up on an offer.
There is 1 facebook girl, who has really caught my eye. I've been putting a little extra effort with her. She hasnn't mentioned pricing yet. So maybe she's a newbie. We shall hopefully see soon.[/QUOTE]She's hot, nice report. I agree, finding chicas on facebook is like shooting fish in a barrel. Not one chica has been offended when I straight-up ask. No time wasted.
Report: I took the taxi home, from Prado Centro to El Poblado, tonight (Fri) at 11 pm. Still coming back to life, but there were people out and restaurants / bars open, for sure. I had the taxi driver take an extra lap around the Lleras area. There are absolutely chicas out tonight, in Lleras and on Calle 10.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2491480]
They are tons of women out here that want to fuck guys for help once in a while and do not want to look like or feel like working girl. And even some if not most of them are really not interested in sinking their hooks into guys for child support or marriage. Especially in times like this, they just need some help, and those are the women I am after.[/QUOTE]Bingo. That's my game. I love those girls.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2491473]I am laughing my ass off right now. Mfs want to call themselves putting pussy on retainer by being a WUT (Western Union Trick). As many examples as there are (some dudes are even falling for the same shit multiple times!) and mfs still do not learn. Pay as you go: C.O.D.
As soon as this pandemic shit hit and guys were talking about sending money, I said you better keep your shit in your pocket. You do not know if you will end up needing it with the upcoming events and you do not know if you will ever see that chick again. But of course everybody knows what they are doing with their money and it is theirs to do as they see fit.
Yet 9 months later and some countries are still closed so it is impossible to see the girl and in other countries that have opened the girls that you sent all the money to is refusing to see you. I can't stop laughing about this shit. I told you, I told you![/QUOTE]Mr Ent. Is correct. Having got my share of requests for money over the years my answer has been, I never send money baby bit I'll take good care of you when I see you. However since the virus has hit and these women and their kids are literally starving I have sent a little food money to two of them that I know in person. Remember a lot of these women are working dozens of men at the same time to send money. Just say "I'll take care of you when I see you" and then see how many of them want to continue speaking to you.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2491481]Interesting post with good information.
On seeking my friend Got a number 9 for 350,000 For 3 hours. He only found 2 other tens 1 of them turned down the 300,000 offer. She was a model and proof of it was Her Facebook working for brands and professional photographers. Sure there are many girls for 150 or 200,000 but Are they working with professional camera equipment. So the guy told her 800,000 for for a 4 hour date and the 2nd date 400,000 For 3 hours. But this is just because honestly there aren't that many supermodels on seeking. The number of tens is very very low. The other He set her up for multiple dates for 400,000. But then changed his mind and told me he could just jerk off. Because honestly the quality just isn't there. Even for these high 10s. Verified story I read all the private messages and And saw the all the pictures[/QUOTE]For an actual 10. That's actually not too bad. It sounds like this is someone who is a complete stunner and is in extreme high demand. Good for him. Have you got any pictures? Its really interesting how different one man's 10 can be from another's. I find it particularly stunning how in Asia, where it is quite common for locals to not understand why these white foreigners are coming to philippines / thailand to date all the ugly girls.
Another reason why I'm so hesitant to pay high prices, is that the actual experience of these 'dates' almost never live up to the imagination. 3 hours with a beautiful 10 sounds incredible if you haven't had sex for 6 months. But more often, after the first pop, I'd rather them just leave. I would be entirely willing to pay 120000 for a 1 HR with a 9 or a 10. But usually the rates are not so linear.
[QUOTE=Combo;2491344]Very unlikely a non / puta would give you a photo of her pussy. Yeah, that's a beautiful vagina.[/QUOTE]When I was doing the online dating in the US about 1 in 4 of the women would send me photos or videos. With the Medellin non-putas, I'm at about 50%, which is about the same as with the working girls.
Ha ha. COD. Love it.
I get so many requests from girls in Venezuela that are starving and need money, I'm pretty sure I will never see them in my lifetime.
Totally agree with Mr. E. never put on retainer.
I see a few guys on SA agreeing to monthly amounts with girls. To me that's the last thing I want to do, don't want it to be a job where I feel forced that I have to see this girls X times a month to get eve. Makes no sense!!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2491473] Pay as you go: C.O.D.
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[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2491480]You guys keep thinking in absolute terms. It depends on what it is for. You pay the medical bill for a girl's mother you are a hero. You spend $1000 for a bottle of vodka at a club to show off you are "rich", you look like a doofus.[/QUOTE]So what are the perks of being this hero (cue Bonnie Tyler) besides feeling all warm and fuzzy inside? Do they throw you a parade or give you the big piece of chicken when they invite you over for dinner (that your $1000 contributbution paid for)? Because from my vantage point either way you look like a doofus.
I remember when you told the story of the Venezuelan chick whose family you moved down to Peru and was supporting. That shit bit you in the ass when you found out that chick did not give 2 shits about you and you could not purchase her loyalty or love. That was not a lesson you had to learn that day because The Beatles had already told your ass that 56 years ago. But looks like you are a glutton for punishment.
A smart person learns from his own mistakes and a wise person learns from the mistakes of others. It seems you are neither. Or maybe it gets you off being used by broads, which I actually see nothing wrong with if that is your thing. But don't go recommending it to others when the shit is not even working for yourself!
[QUOTE=Luminous;2491641]Ha ha. COD. Love it.
I get so many requests from girls in Venezuela that are starving and need money, I'm pretty sure I will never see them in my lifetime.[/QUOTE]I guess it has been more than 1 year that so many Venezuelan and Cuban chicks have been hitting me up on Cupid everyday. I don't even answer them. I have been on Cupid for 15 years and they were not hitting me up like that before. So I am smart enough to know that it is either going to be about some money or a scam. Besides, I have no intention of going to either country anytime soon.
But maybe they are catching on and adjusting their game because one Venezuelan chick hit me the other day but her location said Miami. I bit. But the first thing I asked was where is she. Yep. She was in Venezuela and was looking for guys to pay her for pictures and cam shows. And that is why I do not even answer their messages.
[QUOTE=Kafka;2491510]Bare backed a Colombian hooker? How stupid can you be?[/QUOTE]Not as stupid as you. I can read and comprehend what I read. Obviously you can't because I never said I bare backed a Colombian hooker.
There was a comment on the site about how one should not police the pricing of paying for puta. Well all it takes is a few idiotic kind gestures to make mongering more of uneventful task. If a girl knows theres dummies willing to pay for pics and videos. She has no need to sell pussy. She now has a smarter route to go. If a girl gets 500 mil from a sucker. She's no longer going to be inviting to 150 k. I have seen pics on the forum and these girls arent stunners. They are basic chicks. 150 and less girls. And I bet when you get back to the states you are going to look at the pics and say yup just average. So yes theres a need for guys here to remind another guy do not f**k up the game for others.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2491665]I guess it has been more than 1 year that so many Venezuelan and Cuban chicks have been hitting me up on Cupid everyday. I don't even answer them. I have been on Cupid for 15 years and they were not hitting me up like that before. So I am smart enough to know that it is either going to be about some money or a scam. Besides, I have no intention of going to either country anytime soon.
But maybe they are catching on and adjusting their game because one Venezuelan chick hit me the other day but her location said Miami. I bit. But the first thing I asked was where is she. Yep. She was in Venezuela and was looking for guys to pay her for pictures and cam shows. And that is why I do not even answer their messages.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2491421]All 5 people in one family got Covid? And why were they all re tested for antibodies? And why would you know 8 people who have been retested for antibodies? Do you work at a lab or something?
You missing a couple of major points. Don't worry, you are not alone and a lot of the so-called experts don't get it, either. The repeat lab tests for antibodies are meaningless if they don't predict reinfection. I don't use lab tests for evidence of reinfection, I use the number of sick people who got reinfected, which would be in the millions if people were not immune from prior coronavirus infection. That is the only true measure. Did any of the 8 people you claim (an extraordinary number for one person to know about, BTW) get sick again with Covid? Even if you say yes after the fact, the epidemiology proves, up to this point in time, that immunity is conferred by primary infection. Not lab tests, not pundits, not politicos, not physicians, etc. Look for outcomes and not processes. I am not arguing the point to prove I am correct, even though I am. I simply don't want people to have unwarranted fears. If your statements are accurate and I have my doubts, then the only thing you may have proved is retesting for antibodies does not predict lack of immunity. This is consistent with how a body becomes immune and reveals your basic lack of understanding of medical physiology. You do not need to have measurable antibodies to be immune. The be cells of your humoral immune system retain MEMORY on how to remanufacture antibodies if reexposed, is how it usually works. This mechanism remains to be proven with Covid, but is probably true.
If and when the immunity wears off, the epidemiological evidence will be obvious, interconvertible, overwhelming, and undeniable. Until then, chillax.[/QUOTE]Yes, their young child got it first, and then both parents and the two siblings also got it. They have been checking antibody tests every 2 months. It's cheap ($15) or free with insurance for the antibody test, so most of the people I know who have had it are getting tested regularly. All of the people I'm referring to (the adults) travel frequently for work and the PCR is a requirement, so they are already being tested every few weeks with PCR, so they get the antibody while they are already at the lab.
I actually know WAY more people who have covid than these 8. I was just referring to the ones who are getting tested regularly. Although another friend just posted yesterday that he is on month 6, and his test DID come back with detectable antibodies yesterday.
I also know over 10 people who have died from covid, not from complications. They were all in their 50's, young 60's. A close friend who works in a hospital in CA just lost two relatives last week.
As far as I know, no, none of them have been re-infected, but they've also been far more cautious, so. Hard to say which is causing the effect we see.
[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2491679]Yes, their young child got it first, and then both parents and the two siblings also got it. They have been checking antibody tests every 2 months. It's cheap ($15) or free with insurance for the antibody test, so most of the people I know who have had it are getting tested regularly. All of the people I'm referring to (the adults) travel frequently for work and the PCR is a requirement, so they are already being tested every few weeks with PCR, so they get the antibody while they are already at the lab.
I actually know WAY more people who have covid than these 8. I was just referring to the ones who are getting tested regularly. Although another friend just posted yesterday that he is on month 6, and his test DID come back with detectable antibodies yesterday.
I also know over 10 people who have died from covid, not from complications. They were all in their 50's, young 60's. A close friend who works in a hospital in CA just lost two relatives last week.
As far as I know, no, none of them have been re-infected, but they've also been far more cautious, so. Hard to say which is causing the effect we see.[/QUOTE]We were not talking about how many people you know who had Covid. We were discussing how many people you know who got reinfected with Covid, and you said none. As far as the "effect," I explained it in macro and micro simple language, but that's okay. I will speak for myself and others can form their own opinions. I am not worried one iota about getting coronavirus again until such time the epidemiological evidence proves otherwise. There is a lot of tragedy out there due to Covid, so far reinfection is not one of them.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2491675]There was a comment on the site about how one should not police the pricing of paying for puta. Well all it takes is a few idiotic kind gestures to make mongering more of uneventful task. If a girl knows theres dummies willing to pay for pics and videos. She has no need to sell pussy. She now has a smarter route to go. If a girl gets 500 mil from a sucker. She's no longer going to be inviting to 150 k. I have seen pics on the forum and these girls arent stunners. They are basic chicks. 150 and less girls. And I bet when you get back to the states you are going to look at the pics and say yup just average. So yes theres a need for guys here to remind another guy do not f**k up the game for others..[/QUOTE]Is unproven, conjecture, and more mystical in belief than factual. I personally don't believe it "f**ks up the game" for anyone, other than if you want to make it personal and emotional. Every mongerer is free to do what works best for them. As I was writing this, I had one foto and one 7 minute video come in from one of my regular girls, just because she likes to do it, for free. As someone once posted about me here, "I'm special," No kidding. On contrast, I used to trade daily notes in my hotel with an old Lebanese dude who told me that he usually paid up front, overpaid, and half the time when he met the girls, if they showed, they might flash their boobs and not even let him touch them. Jajajaja, in a way I think he loved the self abuse. I don't believe either one of these scenarios on the opposite end of the spectrum has an effect what others pay. To each their own and everyone is responsible for their own path. The deals are individual and there is no coercion or Puta Union trying to use price controls jaja.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2491480]Good for you Frank. You seemed to get the sugar baby concept.[/QUOTE]Like I said A few pages ago Elvis thanks for your informative posts. You're doing a good job. I really wasn't speaking about your case in particular I was just giving some general advice we could all learn from, Including myself. I also understand some of your decisions have been made based on your specific needs. Sorry if I wasn't very clear.
1 of the things I found interesting is I was talking about 300,000 or 400,000 on seeking while some of the guys were mentioning other deals for 60,000 most likely with Girls in centro.
And yeah maybe it is better to blur the girls face before posting her picture.
Example of what you idiots have done with paying for pictures.
Took a cute girl at Centro. Not great. Just OK. That night she text me about having some stupid APP on my phone. I had never heard of it. I asked what it was. She told me she could send me sexy naked pictures for money.
In the past in the Philippines the girls always had a sick mother (never father). Needed money. Told the girl to take me to the hospital. She can visit the mother and I will pay the hospital bill. Crickets!
I can get it, when a guy in the states gives a girl an allowance based on the arrangement that he gets to visit once or twice a week with the assumption that she's going to put out. Then the girl can feel like she isn't a prostitute when she is, and the guy can fantasize that he isn't banging a hooker when he really is. Everyone is happy. However Elvis 2008 finds Colombian girls in social media, assumes it's a "sugar baby" sort of thing then starts sending them money, 1500 dollars a month all total if we are to believe him. And this is for several months while he has no access to them in order to collect his due. Then, when he shows up one tells him that he didn't send enough thus she owes him nothing. The other refuses to eat dinner with him, won't kiss him, charges him double the going rate then leaves. Does this surprise anyone? He and his girls definitely weren't on the same page. LOL.
These "fantasies" many guys engage in are often countered with a dose of reality from the girl.
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2491726]I can get it, when a guy in the states gives a girl an allowance based on the arrangement that he gets to visit once or twice a week with the assumption that she's going to put out. Then the girl can feel like she isn't a prostitute when she is, and the guy can fantasize that he isn't banging a hooker when he really is.[/QUOTE]I don't get why this is such a hard concept to grasp. If you want a girl that is not a hooker then get a girl that is not a hooker. Don't grab a hooker (from some "premium exclusive website") and imagine she is not a hooker when she sat there and fucked you because you gave her money. Definitions mean something. I have fucked tons of chicks that were not hookers, meaning I did not have to give them money for a taxi, I did not have to send money for their sick aunt, I did not have to buy their kid's school supplies. None of that bullshit you use as excuses to imagine you are not paying the girl to fuck you.
A few months back I was fucking a chick in Thailand that says she pays for the gold Tinder membership or whatever it is. She says there is some kind of way that she can choose the guys that are big spenders or something. This broad said that dudes sometimes give her $300 for a couple of hours. Meanwhile I am giving this chick $30 for all night. She even showed me her paypal of mfs sending money. Just because you found a hooker on a certain website does not mean she is a "special" kind of hooker. That broad is a regular old hooker like all the rest. There is no moderator on websites separating special hookers from all the rest.
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2491726]These "fantasies" many guys engage in are often countered with a dose of reality from the girl.[/QUOTE]That is a door that swings both ways. A mf like me comes along and gives the girl a dose of reality as well. A year ago I fucked a Dumbinican chick and I happened to message her last night. She went on about how she is no longer interested because the $20 I gave her was not enough and she is not a low class hooker. I said well you didn't tell me you were a hooker at all; you told me you own a salon. So I started picking at her how much would have been enough then. She asked for how much time. I said 2 days. She said $500. I started laughing and told her I would pass her number along to SJobs because I knew she was tired of getting high alone.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2491741]That is a door that swings both ways. A mf like me comes along and gives the girl a dose of reality as well. A year ago I fucked a Dumbinican chick and I happened to message her last night. She went on about how she is no longer interested because the $20 I gave her was not enough and she is not a low class hooker. I said well you didn't tell me you were a hooker at all; you told me you own a salon. So I started picking at her how much would have been enough then. She asked for how much time. I said 2 days. She said $500. I started laughing and told her I would pass her number along to SJobs because I knew she was tired of getting high alone.[/QUOTE]Mr Enternational laying down the law.
[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2491702]We were not talking about how many people you know who had Covid. We were discussing how many people you know who got reinfected with Covid, and you said none. As far as the "effect," I explained it in macro and micro simple language, but that's okay. I will speak for myself and others can form their own opinions. I am not worried one iota about getting coronavirus again until such time the epidemiological evidence proves otherwise. There is a lot of tragedy out there due to Covid, so far reinfection is not one of them.[/QUOTE]While it does seem rare (re-infection), I hope you are right and that immunity is long-lived. That would be great news.
Many mongering hubs have puta unions, but when guys on here try to set reasonable rates for a certain hub, why are there always ISG members no less.
That must object and try to defend paying the hideous looking monger surcharge are they really that ugly and / or stoopid?
[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2491755]While it does seem rare (re-infection), I hope you are right and that immunity is long-lived. That would be great news.[/QUOTE]I never said immunity is or will be long lived. I said SO FAR, previous infection has made people immune. Until such time when reinfections start to reappear in the numbers that would be predicted by the know attack rate of the virus (this is not "random") then immunity has been conferred. Long term immunity can be achieved by beta cells ability to remanufacture antibodies from "memory" without the presence of detectable antibodies. This mechanism has not yet been proven in Covid. And we don't know the effect of future strains, blah, blah, blah. For now, you don't have to wonder, the proof is right in front of you. Even when the vaccine comes out, we won't know at first if will we need to be revaccinated and how often, annually like influenza, or less often? You are supporting the immunity argument when you talk about the rare cases of reinfection to date. The exception proves the rule.
I have to find some new sex fotos to lighten this up, jaja Let's switch continents, I hope it's okay to post fotos of one of my hottest little fucks from Pattaya, Thailand, here. The asshole flash was totally spontaneous she just stood up and did it when I all I asked was, "Can I take a foto?" with gestures, since I don't speak Thai, jajaja.
Hi guys,
Quite happy to receive a confirmation of my flight.
Plan Day 1: Arrival 9 pm. Withdraw 2 M pesos Davivienda ATM; Go the hotel in Centro, take a shower and directly move to the clubs. Give a quick look on all clubs and choose one; See how things are going, fuck few girls and then take 1 or 2 to the hotel;.
Day 2: 10 am breakfast, then go to prepagos (listed 10 top prepagos for less than 200K, enormous asses only). THen continue with the day clubs in el Centro, take some numbers. Communicate with some local friends and go to clubs. Take a good Ron de medellin and enjoy the view again!
Day 3: as day 2.
I am prepared for a rally.
1. Do some of you guys encountered viagra in Colombia with a prior medical review or similar substances that you can get easily?
2. What are prices ultimately in Colombia to get one at home an entire night? (One year ago I was paying between 350 and 500 K pesos depending on the girl).
3. Do girls are affected by current situation and decreased there prices?
4. Is there a lot of new working girls in the industry? (as poverty rate is increasing strongly).
Thank you guys.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2459253]That's the Luna Lunera apartment. They moved there from the carrera 81 building for more space at lower rent. They told me the pay 1. 8 million / month and it includes a couple of parking spaces in the garage. I would be interested in the neighborhood if it wasn't on the other side of hellish rush hour traffic. Of course, the girls live there so they don't get involved in commuting. There are lots of well kept spacious small apartment buildings and private homes in the barrio. Good move harvesting the girls' phone numbers. The management is just waiting to hike their prices back up to the old Luna Lunera rates as soon as the tourists are back. I might swing by there later this week.[/QUOTE]Thanks,
Sandy.
Anyone here care to explain the benefits of purchasing photos and videos? Is it like just a little favor for your girlfriend?
For the most part whenever the girl starts asking money for pictures it seems to be a scam. Because after saying okay but let me confirm your identity in videoconference just so to know you are actually selling pictures of yourself. And then all of a sudden they act like they don't understand anything. Blocked. '.
[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2484069]I would add to this some things that I have been told about buying apartments in Medellin. I think most people know that housing in Medellin (Colombia in general) is classified economically as estratos or strata and given a number according to their expense and / or quality of living. Estatos run from 1 to 6 with 6 being the best and 1 being the worst. So 1-2 are poverty to low wage working neighborhoods, 3 and 4 are considered middle class, 5 is upper middle class to wealthy and 6 is straight up luxury. Caveats about this information are these, besides the fact that this is pre-coronavirus information, meaning how the economic impact of the lockdown effects things is an unkown. The following is what I have gathered from people who live in Medellin but this is only two sources and that does not make it golden information, in fact they do not have direct experience buying and selling expensive real estate so it could just be their opinion but I did hear this from two different people.
Cut.[/QUOTE]I have looked for a place in Medellin for more than 5 years, finally found what I liked in Laureles last December. Its nice and flat, with a lot of great bike paths (If you see an old fat man on a red and black GW, stop me and say Hi). I have seen the newer buildings going up, and want to walk a long way away from them! I have 110 M plus two patios, one with a garden, the other off the kitchen, BBQ! I need a good kitchen, and this is going to work. The restaurants are whatever you want, and there are some great ones within a short walk. I paid less than I would have for a 1 br in any mid-sized city in the US. My monthly fees are $COP 350,000, about $USD 100. Water, light and gas are 250.000 cop. Add internet and cell for COP 100.000 and that is my monthly nut. Paid COP 6,000 at the Plazulita de las Americas the other day, for breakfast of scrambled eggs, arepa con queso, and chocolate negro. About $usd 1.75. From a very cute young lady who is studying English.
Not looking for resale value, but I figure my heirs will do OK. However, at this price, if I have to walk away, no huge deal.
In fact, don't give a damn about ROI or resale, but my quality of life is pretty much unmatched. Gee so sorry I did not buy that condo in Portland or San Francisco!
Be safe.
Sandy.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2491779]Anyone here care to explain the benefits of purchasing photos and videos? Is it like just a little favor for your girlfriend?[/QUOTE]Fetish. Some only involve foot or hand so I guess fetish is the most likely reason for those.
[QUOTE=SoloOperadas;2491771]1. Do some of you guys encountered viagra in Colombia with a prior medical review or similar substances that you can get easily?[/QUOTE]Viagra, Cialis, boner pills are all over the counter at the pharmacy. The blue pill is called Sildenafil. So you don't need a prescription for those.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2491800]Fetish. Some only involve foot or hand so I guess fetish is the most likely reason for those.[/QUOTE]Ahhhh Interesting ahhh.
Thanks to whoever posted the following link:
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSW6K5Jf5mk[/URL]
Jim Sharky is a legend, he fucks 10 bitches every day, and then he takes them out for pizza. And they all tell him, "I love you, Sharky." Except Sometimes, some of them say "I love you, daddy!"
[QUOTE=Flak3;2491813]All girls in Colombia are not the same. Why go to Medellin if you can find the same girl in Bogota? Why go to Centro to casas and clubs if they're the same as the girls in Centro? Is a girl who bangs 2 guys a week on SA the same as a girl who bangs 10 in Centro? You think the girls Elvis was talking to are the same as girls you've found in other places for less. Others disagree. "You're entitled to your opinion but not entitled to making up your own facts" (LOL) Some guys say I fucked someone who could have been Ms. Colombia. And people will agree and disagree with them. To avoid all doubt, some guys pay extra and fuck Ms. Colombia. As long as they're not asking you for money to do it, let them enjoy their journey. Like I said, different strokes for different folks. Your way isn't the only way.[/QUOTE]This reminds me of the time. Yeah there is this girl way up north that charges One guy 320 for 2 to 3 hours this is the evening. But then sometimes 1 of her customers comes into town and he pays 1100 per day 5 days in a row. I guess her 2nd customer is just that type of guy.Lesson here is fellas... Pricing is different for every guy even with the same girl.
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2491763]Many mongering hubs have puta unions
[/QUOTE]Hey would you mind sharing where they have these unions? Any good stories on the topic?
[QUOTE=Frank11;2491779]Anyone here care to explain the benefits of purchasing photos and videos? Is it like just a little favor for your girlfriend?
For the most part whenever the girl starts asking money for pictures it seems to be a scam. Because after saying okay but let me confirm your identity in videoconference just so to know you are actually selling pictures of yourself. And then all of a sudden they act like they don't understand anything. Blocked. '.[/QUOTE]I can explain the benefits of buying photos and videos. If you buy photos and videos you will have photos and videos.
If you're someone who enjoys photos and videos, you might be interested in buying photos and videos. If you have no interest in photos and videos, there's probably no reason to buy photos and videos.
Come back next week and I'll explain the benefits of buying a television.
On a more serious note, a lot of the girls trying to sell photos and videos aren't girls. They're some guy trying to sell photos and videos. Especially true of those who refuse a quick video chat to confirm their identity.
[QUOTE=SoloOperadas;2491771]Hi guys,
Quite happy to receive a confirmation of my flight.
Plan Day 1: Arrival 9 pm. Withdraw 2 M pesos Davivienda ATM; Go the hotel in Centro, take a shower and directly move to the clubs. Give a quick look on all clubs and choose one; See how things are going, fuck few girls and then take 1 or 2 to the hotel;.
Day 2: 10 am breakfast, then go to prepagos (listed 10 top prepagos for less than 200K, enormous asses only). THen continue with the day clubs in el Centro, take some numbers. Communicate with some local friends and go to clubs. Take a good Ron de medellin and enjoy the view again!
Day 3: as day 2.
I am prepared for a rally.
1. Do some of you guys encountered viagra in Colombia with a prior medical review or similar substances that you can get easily?
2. What are prices ultimately in Colombia to get one at home an entire night? (One year ago I was paying between 350 and 500 K pesos depending on the girl).
3. Do girls are affected by current situation and decreased there prices?
4. Is there a lot of new working girls in the industry? (as poverty rate is increasing strongly).
Thank you guys.[/QUOTE]"Enormous asses only" jajaj Yes you can get generic V in any pharmacy. Without a script. Stay away from la Marca pills marked 'MK' they suck. Happy hunting!
[QUOTE=Sandymnn;2491786]I have looked for a place in Medellin for more than 5 years, finally found what I liked in Laureles last December. Its nice and flat, with a lot of great bike paths (If you see an old fat man on a red and black GW, stop me and say Hi). I have seen the newer buildings going up, and want to walk a long way away from them! I have 110 M plus two patios, one with a garden, the other off the kitchen, BBQ! I need a good kitchen, and this is going to work. The restaurants are whatever you want, and there are some great ones within a short walk. I paid less than I would have for a 1 br in any mid-sized city in the US. My monthly fees are $COP 350,000, about $USD 100. Water, light and gas are 250.000 cop. Add internet and cell for COP 100.000 and that is my monthly nut. Paid COP 6,000 at the Plazulita de las Americas the other day, for breakfast of scrambled eggs, arepa con queso, and chocolate negro. About $usd 1.75. From a very cute young lady who is studying English.
Not looking for resale value, but I figure my heirs will do OK. However, at this price, if I have to walk away, no huge deal.
In fact, don't give a damn about ROI or resale, but my quality of life is pretty much unmatched. Gee so sorry I did not buy that condo in Portland or San Francisco!
Be safe.
Sandy.[/QUOTE]I am envious of your situation, it sounds like you found what you needed. When you say red and black GW, do you mean Gold Wing? Which would be a great choice because they last forever.
Here's another very recent video showing LA 70 in Medellin made by expat whose live down there for 5 years for any of you guys headed to laureles. He also gives a couple of tips about some places.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFzRBOMowXE&list=WL&index=2&t=604s[/URL]
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Absolutely, under no circumstances, should you ever pay more than the local rate for pussy, send money, give gifts, buy photos or give tips. The only exception is: unless you want to.
You sweated your balls off, or held your boss' sweaty balls, to earn your money. Spend it however you want. If someone complains, I've come up with the perfect apology, which not only shows how sorry you are, but shows the appropriate level of gratitude for the person who has shown you the error of your ways:
"Go fuck yourself."
Did he ask you before he paid $6 for an extended warranty on a $14 toaster? Did he consult with you before getting the spray-on undercoating on his new Nissan? Did he let you tell him how much to pay for his tattoo of Mike Pence in assless chaps (you know who you are)?
If the answer is "no", then he doesn't get to tell you where to stay, what to eat, who to fuck or how much to pay. It's your money. If you want to pay 300 k, 400 k or $5000, go nuts! If you want to give your girl an iPhone 11. On second thought, don't give her an iPhone 11. There are 20 hookers in Medellin already trying to sell their iPhone 11 ("amor, me robaron" give her a Samsung. If you want to buy her a mansion on Las Palmas, go right ahead.
Unless the complainer bought your tickets, paid for your apartment, gave you money for food and pussy, and washed your balls, it's none of his business.
But you'll ruin the market, just like Costa Rica.
Bullshit.
The Medellin metropolitan area has 10 times the population of San Jose. Costa Rica gets 3 times the tourists, per capita, as Colombia. And there are probably 3 times as many hookers in Medellin, per capita. It's going to take a lot more than a few guys overpaying 6 times a year to change the market. And that's without considering Bogota, Cartagena and Cali. Have the El Centro prices gone up because SJobs is spending $500 a night in Parque Lleras?
If some girl asks you to pay more than you want to pay, tell her how much you will pay. If she says no, move on. There are other hookers. If some girl asks you to send money, give her a gift, or buy some videos and you don't want to, tell her you're not interested. If she doesn't take the hint, block her.
If all that is too difficult for you, go home and don't come back until you're able to put on your big boy pants.
Hello brothers, please can you help me with some info. I saw that Colombia is open again and I'm thinking to visit the country, in fact it will my first visit to South America. Must be fun to spend some time with latina girls after years of travel in Asia and Africa.
My trips usually are combination between meeting local girls, visiting typical tourist places and going to bars with the girlfriend of the night, then going back to the airbnb for the desert. I'm looking only for non-pro or at least semi-pro that I have no problem finding in Tinder kind of places. So I guess in girls department, even during the covid, there will be no problem finding a company. Maybe the non-pro are even more active because of the current economic situation.
But my fear is that the bars and the tourist places will be closed. Can you update me on this subject. Are they slowly begin to open again or still they are "safety measures"? I just can't imagine a trip where everybody is wearing a mask around me, where I can go out with a girl to drink something during the night or just have fun dancing and listening to some music. The usual things. From where I live, here we have very little limitations. If it's an open place (no roof) you can go there, drink eat enjoy, no limitation at all. On the streets. No masks. Only in close spaces like public transport or supermarkets. But I saw some videos from Bogota from the last few weeks and people are wearing mask even on the streets, bars and restaurants are not open. Not a funny place.
So please, can you update me on the current restrictions / measures in Colombia? I plan to visit Bogota, Medellin and Cartagena, but I guess it's the same all over the country.
EDIT: I just watched the youtube video from 10 oct and it seems that the things are going back to normal. Maybe I watched older videos from the beginning of September. Now bars are open and if you sit on the table, no need to wear a mask. Still it seems that people are obliged to wear a mask on the streets. Anyway, any up to date info about the subject will be much appreciated.
[QUOTE=Onojdi;2491859]Hello brothers, please can you help me with some info. I saw that Colombia is open again and I'm thinking to visit the country, in fact it will my first visit to South America. Must be fun to spend some time with latina girls after years of travel in Asia and Africa.
My trips usually are combination between meeting local girls, visiting typical tourist places and going to bars with the girlfriend of the night, then going back to the airbnb for the desert. I'm looking only for non-pro or at least semi-pro that I have no problem finding in Tinder kind of places. So I guess in girls department, even during the covid, there will be no problem finding a company. Maybe the non-pro are even more active because of the current economic situation.
But my fear is that the bars and the tourist places will be closed. Can you update me on this subject. Are they slowly begin to open again or still they are "safety measures"? I just can't imagine a trip where everybody is wearing a mask around me, where I can go out with a girl to drink something during the night or just have fun dancing and listening to some music. The usual things. From where I live, here we have very little limitations. If it's an open place (no roof) you can go there, drink eat enjoy, no limitation at all. On the streets. No masks. Only in close spaces like public transport or supermarkets. But I saw some videos from Bogota from the last few weeks and people are wearing mask even on the streets, bars and restaurants are not open. Not a funny place.
So please, can you update me on the current restrictions / measures in Colombia? I plan to visit Bogota, Medellin and Cartagena, but I guess it's the same all over the country.
EDIT: I just watched the youtube video from 10 oct and it seems that the things are going back to normal. Maybe I watched older videos from the beginning of September. Now bars are open and if you sit on the table, no need to wear a mask. Still it seems that people are obliged to wear a mask on the streets. Anyway, any up to date info about the subject will be much appreciated.[/QUOTE]How is your Spanish? If you are looking non-pro that will be very important. English is for the most part non-existent among Colombianas.
Sadly my Spanish is basically the same as the English of the Colombians. Almost non-existent. But I somehow manage to have a good time in Indonesia with few local girls, and there they really doesn't know English. I mean like absolute zero. At least I know 200-300 words in Spanish, the girls will know some English. We will smile more and fuck more, it will be fine.
[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2491838]I am envious of your situation, it sounds like you found what you needed. When you say red and black GW, do you mean Gold Wing? Which would be a great choice because they last forever.[/QUOTE]Wish I could! It is a Great Wheel, Chinese made bike, very popular here. Not too expensive and good quality!
[QUOTE=Flak3;2491901]Elvis complained and may be disappointed by some of the girls, but he was also pleased with some of the girls[/QUOTE]Doesn't this tell you there is no correlation with the amount of money spent?
He opened the door to allow himself to be manipulated. Elvis would have paid more if the lock down lasted longer. If there was no lock down, he paid nothing. And after all the effort, some girls still only allow covered sex and no DFK. That is very little return with so much effort.
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2491835]"Enormous asses only" jajaj Yes you can get generic V in any pharmacy. Without a script. Stay away from la Marca pills marked 'MK' they suck. Happy hunting![/QUOTE]Costs twice as much, but the generic is a waste of money IMO.
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[QUOTE=Onojdi;2491892]Sadly my Spanish is basically the same as the English of the Colombians. Almost non-existent. But I somehow manage to have a good time in Indonesia with few local girls, and there they really doesn't know English. I mean like absolute zero. At least I know 200-300 words in Spanish, the girls will know some English. We will smile more and fuck more, it will be fine.[/QUOTE]The problem is with meeting "non-pros" without having some grasp of Spanish. However, if you plan to use Tinder, you're dealing almost exclusively with pros.
I don't recommend using Tinder in Colombia, especially Medellin. Over the past 2 years there have been several girls using Tinder to drug and rob visitors. There have been a couple of deaths.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2491473]I am laughing my ass off right now. Mfs want to call themselves putting pussy on retainer by being a WUT (Western Union Trick). As many examples as there are (some dudes are even falling for the same shit multiple times!) and mfs still do not learn. Pay as you go: C.O.D. [/QUOTE]I am laughing my ass off at you. Out of the seven women I planned to see, all of them showed up and one showed up a day late. If you are going to base your entire game on the behavior of ONE flaky 20 year old then you have none.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2491473]As soon as this pandemic shit hit and guys were talking about sending money, I said you better keep your shit in your pocket. You do not know if you will end up needing it with the upcoming events and you do not know if you will ever see that chick again. But of course everybody knows what they are doing with their money and it is theirs to do as they see fit. [/QUOTE]That is great advice for the working girl market and terrible advice for the sugar market, and I am not going to waste my time explaining the difference.
I have been using generic viagra for a good 5 years. When I ran out of my prescripted generic brand in Colombia, I hunted for a replacement. The MK was okay. But found another brand unfortunately I don't remember the name in which I was quite impress with. So much so that I won't bring any pills with me to Colombia, cause i can just get those. The thing with viagra and generic it works differently with each person. You really have to sample what works for you. Make sure to not drink lots of water prior. Liquor is fine. In fact I was used the real viagra once and it had me sweating and heart beating fast.
[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2491952]Costs twice as much, but the generic is a waste of money IMO.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2491414]Actually the post from Elvis 2008 is a cautionary tale. He reported sending girls all total 1500 a month for a number of months while he was waiting to get in Colombia. He arrives and one essentially tells me that he wasn't sending enough thus she owes him nothing. The next one rushed him, wouldn't kiss him, plus overcharged him. 100 dollars for two hours, especially in the present market is too much, even though she faked an orgasm for him. 200 mil pesos is plenty. Yes he posted photos, and independents just as hot or hotter can be had for 150 to 200 mil, easy. And if you go into the Centro casas and strip clubs and are patient, you can pluck out equal quality for 40 to 100 mil or 12 to 30 dollars, though for a briefer encounter. That's the way it is, and the membership here deserves to hear this information, even if angers someone like yourself.[/QUOTE]The tale part of this New York New York is you rewriting history. I am not sure who you are even talking about who blew me off.
As for Kiara and getting an equally attractive woman and better value in a strip club in the current climate, the strip clubs are closed. I love how you put yourself out as an expert in the field while you are standing on the sidelines.
But I have been to the casas and to the best strip clubs, and there was no one close to Kiara looks wise there. You are diminishing her attractiveness to put me down, and I do not care. For me, she was a trophy fuck, nothing more nothing less. If you are too cheap to spend $100 for a woman hot enough to be on the arm of Donald Trump, that says a lot more about you than me.
And if I wanted to blow her up to get the envy of others, I could have. I could have said that I fucked her bare. She is in love me and the best lover, but that would not be keeping it real.
Kiara is on [URL]seeking.com[/URL] to find a multimillionaire and given she is one of the ten hottest women in Medellin, she probably will get him if she plays her cards right. She is a journalist who was struggling even before the pandemic and got into the sugar game to support the life she felt that she was entitled to. I could tell that she had landed some whales before I had even met her.
If she was on your arm at a cocktail party, you would be the envy of everyone there and when she opened your mouth, you would not have to be afraid of what would come out.
If I were the type that were interested in her falling for me, I would get a suite at the nicest hotel, have her picked up in a limo, and drop every name I could. I would show her photos of me playing golf with Trump. "Trump is a big hitter, but he has the mouth of the sailor." And drop lines like, "I was talking to the mayor of Medellin, great guy, do you know him?
As far as sex goes, if she did not do everything I liked, I would say that I was tired, send her home, and have her wait it out as punishment for not giving me what I want.
So for a man like you who thinks that the only value a woman has is between her legs, yes, $100 is way too much.
The irony is that I thought you were as big a snob as she was. She would never fake an orgasm but rather ***** about a guy not giving her one.
But by all means, Paulie, you should stick to the casas and strip club. Women like Kiara are out of your league, and you better stay on the bunny slopes for now.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2491973]I have been using generic viagra for a good 5 years. When I ran out of my prescripted generic brand in Colombia, I hunted for a replacement. The MK was okay. But found another brand unfortunately I don't remember the name in which I was quite impress with. So much so that I won't bring any pills with me to Colombia, cause i can just get those. The thing with viagra and generic it works differently with each person. You really have to sample what works for you. Make sure to not drink lots of water prior. Liquor is fine. In fact I was used the real viagra once and it had me sweating and heart beating fast..[/QUOTE]As always, consider the source, the overall consistency and tone of the mongerer who posts, and form your own opinions. And you struggle with knowing the difference between facts and opinions. That's okay, I am here to help you. Something as subjective as what makes your dick stiff is bound to be open to interpretation. And I have also said before, instead of telling other members what to do, how to spend their money, etc. Take a step back and consider that there may be valid explanations for different experiences.
As far as generic Viagra goes, maybe you found a different generic. Me and my posse of four guys total, we all came to the same conclusion, tried the generic, didn't like it, went back to the branded Viagra. That unscientific, purely opinion but not misinformation.
Finally, as a tip for the Room to be helpful, we didn't use Viagra in Thailand, but were all using branded Kamagra from India. Not sure if I spelled that right I have no idea the availability in Colombia.
Am I missing something here? Theres a large number of ads on photoprepagos without phone numbers like this one.
[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/medellin/laureles-estadio/linda-flacaa-servicios-presencial-y-virtuales-id-z7s8t[/URL]
How are people supposed to make contact?
[QUOTE=Blakman;2491973]I have been using generic viagra for a good 5 years.[/QUOTE]Claiming that a generic drug is not effective as the "original" just demonstrates the huge ignorance of the claimer. The chemical substance is the same, exactly the same. How could the paper box and label have an effect?
The only precaution is to buy drugs from industries with a reputation, that is not from anonymous suppliers on the Internet. In Colombia, MK and Genfar are maybe the two most important pharmaceutical industries, under the quality control of the government. No way something with that brand could be fake or "less effective".
Every time I go (went) to Colombia, I brough back to my country 10 or more 4x50mg boxes of Sildenafil Genfar. It's a huge saving compared to the prices in my country.
Especially with this kind of products, psychological issues have a major impact. If someone starts to doubt of the pill, it is guaranteed that he will perceive lower performance.
What is stupid is to buy a pill for $5 because "original", when the generic costs less than 50c. Come on!
Still, Pfizer is well aware that there is people who believes that a pill costing 10 times more MUST be more effective, MUST be better. They charge, and some people pays. Look at ibuprofene and compare the cost of big bottles at CVS, with "original" headache killers. In my country, there are brands selling boxes of 10 pills 200mg ibuprofene for 10 euro, when a big bottle of 200 such pills at CVS may cost more or less the same.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2491973]I have been using generic viagra for a good 5 years. When I ran out of my prescripted generic brand in Colombia, I hunted for a replacement. The MK was okay. But found another brand unfortunately I don't remember the name in which I was quite impress with. So much so that I won't bring any pills with me to Colombia, cause i can just get those. The thing with viagra and generic it works differently with each person. You really have to sample what works for you. Make sure to not drink lots of water prior. Liquor is fine. In fact I was used the real viagra once and it had me sweating and heart beating fast.
.[/QUOTE]Here's the one you want guys. Generic Sedenifil made in Bogota. I'm a teenager again with these pills. I cut them in half and take about an hour to two hours before sex washing down with lots of beer LOL. And they're really cheap at one of the pharmacies on calle 10 I think less than $3.00 for two 100 mg pills if I remember correctly. So for me that 75 cents per session.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2491828]
If you're someone who enjoys photos and videos, you might be interested in buying photos and videos. If you have no interest in photos and videos, there's probably no reason to buy photos and videos.
[/QUOTE]Well it's not exactly that simple. Because someone who buys pictures from a girl in med could find millions of similar pictures online for free. So is it really worth buying these pictures? That's why someone may be curious about the mentality behind buying pictures.
Like maybe something that can't be found online for free could have some value. Like if the girl takes pictures hanging out with the guy then the guy could Give her a gift for those pictures and have those memories for a lifetime.
Generally speaking the current medical recommendation Instruct people to always buy The cheaper generic Version of a pharmaceutical substance. And never buy pirate medicines.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2492003]Claiming that a generic drug is not effective as the "original" just demonstrates the huge ignorance of the claimer. The chemical substance is the same, exactly the same. How could the paper box and label have an effect?
The only precaution is to buy drugs from industries with a reputation, that is not from anonymous suppliers on the Internet. In Colombia, MK and Genfar are maybe the two most important pharmaceutical industries, under the quality control of the government. No way something with that brand could be fake or "less effective".
Every time I go (went) to Colombia, I brough back to my country 10 or more 4x50mg boxes of Sildenafil Genfar. It's a huge saving compared to the prices in my country.
Especially with this kind of products, psychological issues have a major impact. If someone starts to doubt of the pill, it is guaranteed that he will perceive lower performance.
What is stupid is to buy a pill for $5 because "original", when the generic costs less than 50c. Come on!
Still, Pfizer is well aware that there is people who believes that a pill costing 10 times more MUST be more effective, MUST be better. They charge, and some people pays. Look at ibuprofene and compare the cost of big bottles at CVS, with "original" headache killers. In my country, there are brands selling boxes of 10 pills 200mg ibuprofene for 10 euro, when a big bottle of 200 such pills at CVS may cost more or less the same.[/QUOTE]I have known a very nice old pharmacist in Mexico for several years that works for a chain pharmacy there, he told me do not buy medications in Mexico if you can get them in USA.
He states foreign made knock offs are inferior, don't bother, and most definitely never buy anything "critical" ala antibiotics heart meds cancer et al.
Caveat emptor.
I get Viagra $90 each $2700 per month from Walgreens, I pay $10.
With the virus holding me back I have a huge stockpile building LOL.
Post-script he told me if you must buy something, make sure its from Walmart or Costco those meds are made in USA via FDA etc.
5 years ago, girls would send you free pics and videos free as an incentive for you to give them time a day. At least if they were interested. Along comes a desperste pervy that wants to pay for pics and video. Now 70 percent of online girls are asking you to buy pics and video. After one sentence the first words uttered. I sell pics and video. You want to buy. Hell I have free access to girls all over the globe with porn tv that look 10 times hotter than any girl selling pics and video. It just seems senseless. And I repeat it makes trying to communicate with online girls annoying cause the words spreads. Theres fools out there that will buy pics and video and you don't need to fuck anymore. Maybe its a humantarian reason behind it. If it is please let it be known so I can make sense of it LOL.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2492018]Well it's not exactly that simple. Because someone who buys pictures from a girl in med could find millions of similar pictures online for free. So is it really worth buying these pictures? That's why someone may be curious about the mentality behind buying pictures.
Like maybe something that can't be found online for free could have some value. Like if the girl takes pictures hanging out with the guy then the guy could Give her a gift for those pictures and have those memories for a lifetime.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2492003]Every time I go (went) to Colombia, I brought back to my country 10 or more 4x50mg boxes of Sildenafil Genfar. It's a huge saving compared to the prices in my country.[/QUOTE]I'm a fan of your posts, and I also agree that the blue generics work well down there (in Colombia).
Just a heads up, bringing any pharmaceuticals back from Colombia to the states is a felony.
I may or may not have a friend that had an extremely close encounter with customs upon return to the states regarding this same exact situation.
I was in panic mode. Ask the pharmacist for the 2 medication need and was surprised how cheap they were. Well I took them for 2 months til they ran out when I got back to the states. I am still alive and healthy with those generic drugs. The generic conversation is exactly why a newbie or a person coming to Colombia should always following up on someone post to see if statement is accurate.
[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2492010]Here's the one you want guys. Generic Sedenifil made in Bogota. I'm a teenager again with these pills. I cut them in half and take about an hour to two hours before sex washing down with lots of beer LOL. And they're really cheap at one of the pharmacies on calle 10 I think less than $3.00 for two 100 mg pills if I remember correctly. So for me that 75 cents per session.[/QUOTE].
Real fake or in between. If you can't get it up it's your problem. Were trying to find women here guys, Let's stick to the fruits of this beautiful city. Save the lymp dick talk please.
[QUOTE=ElBacano;2492036]Real fake or in between. If you can't get it up it's your problem. Were trying to find women here guys, Let's stick to the fruits of this beautiful city. Save the lymp dick talk please.[/QUOTE]Okay, will do MR. I haven't posted nor contributed to the thread in 8 months.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2491844]If some girl asks you to pay more than you want to pay, tell her how much you will pay. If she says no, move on. There are other hookers. If some girl asks you to send money, give her a gift, or buy some videos and you don't want to, tell her you're not interested. If she doesn't take the hint, block her.
If all that is too difficult for you, go home and don't come back until you're able to put on your big boy pants.[/QUOTE]Even though we have had our spats, JJBee, I know you are not like other guys who are out for themselves, but you guys are declaring my approach terrible because there were a few bumps in the road. Did you think that I would expect there would be? The bigger question is if I was happy with the money I put in or do you want to tell me if I am happy or not? Keep in mind I have not even written the last chapter yet.
You and Mr. E and Paulie and all these other guys are all like you do not pay working girls in advance. Tall Man said that 80% of the women in Colombia have taken a payout, and the other 20% are probably women guys would not or could not pay. Point is that all women sell themselves to an extent. You guys make it sound like there is a definite bright line. *****s are in black here, normal women are in white. It does not work like that. There is a little black, a little white, and a hell of a lot more gray.
And before making up what is good and bad for me, keep in mind that I am looking long term. I had $50,000 jump into my lap due to an accounting error. Great right? Nope, I formed a lot of bad habits from that easy money.
The engagement breakup with the Venezuelan girl was terrible right? Nope, long term it was great. If I did not have the pain of the breakup, I would not have been forced me to redefine what I wanted, to understand the real rules of the game, and it also gave me tremendous confidence.
American men are so used to ceding women power it is ridiculous. When the ex fiancé told me "You cannot force me to marry you", that told me it was something she was worried about. So I talked to a Peruvian lawyer about it, and he told me that I pretty much could put her in a position where marrying me was her best option. So then I had to ask myself if that is what I wanted, and I admitted that I did not want to marry the *****. I realized then that all I really wanted was to be the one who chose the terms of the breakup.
As far as blowing it, I followed her on Instagram, and she tried so hard to show her life was so much better when I was not there, but I saw the cracks and finally she let me know me in her own way that she made a mistake with the breakup.
The funny thing about this is this is when women are unhappy with a guy and break it off, they always act like "I deserve better. " I realized I deserved better than her and I got it already but committing to one woman in a foreign country was a mistake. Ironically, once I talk about this relationship and say I am not going to date just you, all the women in other countries say, "I understand. " Hell, the breakup was worth just that get out of jail free card.
And you guys think money only buys sex. It buys power and because you have been raised in the sex prison, you all are just too afraid to yield it.
When the Queen stormed off when I was talking to another woman, she was basically saying, "I fucked you bare, and you have to be faithful to me." And my response to her was a take on, "You think I flew all the way to Colombia to be with you one night, why?" That was a helluva an ego check for her.
And then I told her "And you may think that there is better out there, but every woman who has said that and been with me, has done worse. I am probably the best you are ever going to get. " It is one thing to say that. It is another to really feel that way, and I do.
I didn't respond to her for like 10 days and she got back to me in an hour after I texted her and even apologized. Her last response was "I love you so much".
Most guys think the Queen wants a handsome guy, a young guy, and a guy like me is just a pretender. That is so wrong. What this woman really wants is to be disciplined but in a compassionate way. She knows that she needs a guy that she cannot run over.
And JJBee, your response in a situation like that is "never give 'them any money in advance. Do not trust them!" You are saying all women are the same which is really stupid. It is immature sulking. You reward the trustworthy women and toss the ones who are not. To me, it is "if I cannot trust you, then I am going to cut you off" and most of the time I get, "I am sorry you can trust me, I screwed up."
You guys are like, "you need to lock your wallet away, you never know it can be stolen." With these women, I leave mine out.
You think that is the dumbest thing ever right? Nope, I want the best women, and the best women are not thieves. They should trust me enough that I will meet their needs, and if they try to steal, that is great. Then I weaned out a woman who was not the best. I am living in confidence, and you all are living in fear.
So how did it work out?
There were nine women I helped out that I could have met.
I met with seven of them. They all showed up though one was late a day. I will meet the other two at a later time.
I had sex with all of them.
I barebacked four of them. The one who agreed to and did not I got rid of and will not take back.
And two were tens.
I paid Kiara an agreed on price. I left cash gifts with the amount of my choosing with three of them and three I left nothing in cash.
In the last 24 hours, I have had three of the women send me texts with phrases like I love you, I miss you ETC from Colombia. If you go back three more days, that number climbs to six.
Still, one, the last one, has stood head and shoulders above the rest. In fact, the most valid criticism of what I did wrong was to not spend all my time with her, but I am not going to commit to her, not when I am not with her all the time, and she is fine with that.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2492028]5 years ago, girls would send you free pics and videos free as an incentive for you to give them time a day. At least if they were interested. Along comes a desperste pervy that wants to pay for pics and video. Now 70 percent of online girls are asking you to buy pics and video. After one sentence the first words uttered. I sell pics and video. You want to buy. Hell I have free access to girls all over the globe with porn tv that look 10 times hotter than any girl selling pics and video. It just seems senseless. And I repeat it makes trying to communicate with online girls annoying cause the words spreads. Theres fools out there that will buy pics and video and you don't need to fuck anymore. Maybe its a humantarian reason behind it. If it is please let it be known so I can make sense of it LOL..[/QUOTE]Do you buy porn? I'm guessing you probably don't. Yet somehow, even if you see no reason to buy porn, porn is a multi-billion dollar a year industry.
Do you spend money on webcams? I'm guessing you probably don't. Yet somehow, even if you see no reason to spend money on webcams, the webcam industry brings in billions every year.
I can probably list 100 things which are of absolutely no interest to you, but enough people are willing to pay that they are lucrative industries.
How about fucking middle-aged women? Any interest? No? No interest here either, but I don't think anyone who prefers the older women is a fool. They just like different things.
I probably communicate with as many Colombianas each week as you. Besides the ones I regularly communicate with, I get 1 or 2 new ones hitting me up every day. Occasionally one of the new ones will ask if I want to buy videos. If I'm not interested in buying videos I simply tell her "no quiero videos, Pero estaré en Medellin pronto why quiero verte." ("I don't want videos, but I'll be in Medellin soon and I want to see you."
No need to get annoyed. Instead, I use it as a filter. If she keeps asking about buying videos, she's unlikely to perform to my standards, so she gets blocked. On the other hand, if she gets enthusiastic about seeing me, she moves up the list.
What really baffles me here, if the women trying to sell you videos are ugly compared to the girls you have access to, why are you even talking to them? Shit, I delete 5 friend requests a day because I have no interest in them. I certainly don't add them and then hit them up only to get annoyed if they try to sell me something.
While you've still got your box of tissues nearby, care to cry about the guys paying 100k, 150 k and even 200 k? Don't you ever have girls asking for more than 60 k? You know why they do that. Right? Because most guys are comfortable paying more than 60 k. I would almost be willing to bet you have more women who want more than 60k than you have women asking you to buy their videos.
As I've told you before it's a problem that's incredibly simple to deal with.
Say "No." If she persists, block her and move on. The exact same thing you do for the girls who want 300 k, or who want money for their sick grandmother.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2492028]5 years ago, girls would send you free pics and videos free as an incentive for you to give them time a day. At least if they were interested. Along comes a desperste pervy that wants to pay for pics and video. Now 70 percent of online girls are asking you to buy pics and video. After one sentence the first words uttered. I sell pics and video. You want to buy. Hell I have free access to girls all over the globe with porn tv that look 10 times hotter than any girl selling pics and video. It just seems senseless. And I repeat it makes trying to communicate with online girls annoying cause the words spreads. Theres fools out there that will buy pics and video and you don't need to fuck anymore. Maybe its a humantarian reason behind it. If it is please let it be known so I can make sense of it LOL.
.[/QUOTE]Agree pics and video sould be like an enticement. Not a pay for item, no clue why people pay for that shit.
[QUOTE=ElBacano;2492036]Real fake or in between. If you can't get it up it's your problem. Were trying to find women here guys, Let's stick to the fruits of this beautiful city. Save the lymp dick talk please.[/QUOTE]Are the same guys who need and use it the most. And how does Viagra NOT fit into a sex board discussion? Whatever your starting point, Viagra makes you better. I reach for it when I am doing multiple girls in a single day, not sure if that means I "need" it but I sure consider it one of the "tools of the trade" for mongering.
[QUOTE=ElBacano;2492036]Real fake or in between. If you can't get it up it's your problem. Were trying to find women here guys, Let's stick to the fruits of this beautiful city. Save the lymp dick talk please.[/QUOTE]If you're unable to find women in Medellin you've got much bigger problems than getting it up.
Believe it or not there's more to mongering in a foreign country than just finding women, which in Medellin is slightly more difficult than finding someone in Ireland who drinks. Really, finding women is the easiest part.
Where to stay, what to eat, is the water safe to drink, what are the dangers, what areas should be avoided, what's the best way to get local currency, what do things cost, how to get around, where can you get prescriptions filled, what things should you bring, are there any must see experiences. And so much more are questions people have.
If ED isn't a problem you currently have good for you. If you have no need for extra help getting it up for the 28th girl you've fucked in the past week, that's fantastic. Not everyone is lucky enough to die before age puts limits on their activities. For those of us who have lived a bit longer, or who sometimes appreciate a bit of help, information about where to get sildenafil is useful.
In Medellin you can get generic Viagra and Cialis at any pharmacy. Pharmacies are everywhere and prices vary. I've personally had both MK and GenFar sildenafil that occasionally didn't seem to work. Usually, I've found that 1 50 MG pill 30-45 minutes before the action works fine. Boxes of 4-50 MG pills are available.
For me, I experience residual effects for 24-30 hours. With the 20 MG tadalafil, generic Cialis, I could usually benefit for at least 3 days. However, with tadalafil I would have severe leg and lower back pain for 2 to 3 days. I would also, after taking it daily for several days, have difficulty achieving orgasm.
[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2492048]Agree pics and video sould be like an enticement. Not a pay for item, no clue why people pay for that shit.[/QUOTE]If they have $20 to send, that's more than the minuscule amount of self esteem they have.
Has anyone looked at the stats for global internet traffic, its seems 146% is free porn LOL.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2492003]Claiming that a generic drug is not effective as the "original" just demonstrates the huge ignorance of the claimer. The chemical substance is the same, exactly the same. How could the paper box and label have an effect?
The only precaution is to buy drugs from industries with a reputation, that is not from anonymous suppliers on the Internet. In Colombia, MK and Genfar are maybe the two most important pharmaceutical industries, under the quality control of the government. No way something with that brand could be fake or "less effective".
Every time I go (went) to Colombia, I brough back to my country 10 or more 4x50mg boxes of Sildenafil Genfar. It's a huge saving compared to the prices in my country.
Especially with this kind of products, psychological issues have a major impact. If someone starts to doubt of the pill, it is guaranteed that he will perceive lower performance.
What is stupid is to buy a pill for $5 because "original", when the generic costs less than 50c. Come on!
Still, Pfizer is well aware that there is people who believes that a pill costing 10 times more MUST be more effective, MUST be better. They charge, and some people pays. Look at ibuprofene and compare the cost of big bottles at CVS, with "original" headache killers. In my country, there are brands selling boxes of 10 pills 200mg ibuprofene for 10 euro, when a big bottle of 200 such pills at CVS may cost more or less the same.[/QUOTE]The "equivalence" used to tout the non-difference is based on milligram to milligram comparison. There is so much more to it grasshopper, more than I can teach you here. In a nutshell, the excipients, binders, and the manufacturing process can be vastly different. This can (not always) greatly alter the AUC (Area Under the Curve) or the biovavailibility of ANY generic drug. If the peaks and valleys of the curve are not aligned with the brand name drug, the generic can become totally ineffective. This involves time of onset and trough levels needed for a drug to be effective. There are entire seminars on this topic. The information is hard to fine because the public is handed the line that all these drugs are equivalent mainly so formularies of insurance companies can save money. That is not to say that a generic can't be as good as the original. It's possible. But not automatic. If you want empirical evidence, talk to a mom who had her kid's Ritalin or other stimulant med switched without their permission, and the night and day difference it made in behavior of said kid, even thought the drug was the "same. " You were right about one thing, there is a huge psychological component in both directions: being told the generic is just as good; or believing it is inferior because it is generic. Why do you think a standard Rx has a "Do Not Substitute" box on it? Because certain drugs are infamous for being ineffective as generics, and that's when the box gets checked by the prescribing physician.
Has anyone try SA at Ukraine or Russia? If so, what's the going rate for 2 hours and overnight for intimate encounter there?
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2491988]Am I missing something here? Theres a large number of ads on photoprepagos without phone numbers like this one.
[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/medellin/laureles-estadio/linda-flacaa-servicios-presencial-y-virtuales-id-z7s8t[/URL]
How are people supposed to make contact?[/QUOTE]People move to another girl whose phone is posted. She is not available at least at the moment. Some providers without phone numbers can be located through other fora.
[QUOTE=Questner;2492072]People move to another girl whose phone is posted. She is not available at least at the moment. Some providers without phone numbers can be located through other fora.[/QUOTE]Why even post though? Or do you mean at one point the ad had a number and then the poster removed it but decided to leave the ad?
[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/health/2020/10/11/backflip-w-h-o-condemns-coronavirus-lockdowns-just-doubling-global-poverty/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Forever18;2492059]Has anyone try SA at Ukraine or Russia? If so, what's the going rate for 2 hours and overnight for intimate encounter there?[/QUOTE]Maybe you should ask in the Russia or Ukraine forum. They would know better.
[QUOTE=Forever18;2492059]Has anyone try SA at Ukraine or Russia? If so, what's the going rate for 2 hours and overnight for intimate encounter there?[/QUOTE]Nov 2018 I went to Moscow for my bday, I had never tried SA before, well Moscow is a very tough town to monger, so I thought I would try SA within 1-2 hours a few girls including an African sent me messages.
I asked how much most said either $1500 or $2000 for 2 hrs, I laughed and responded OK, 2000 or 1500 rubles, they immediately blocked me, 2 or 3 hrs later I was blocked from SA.
Someone must of reported me, and SA kicked me off and gave me a refund.
[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2492010]Here's the one you want guys. Generic Sedenifil made in Bogota. I'm a teenager again with these pills. I cut them in half and take about an hour to two hours before sex washing down with lots of beer LOL. And they're really cheap at one of the pharmacies on calle 10 I think less than $3.00 for two 100 mg pills if I remember correctly. So for me that 75 cents per session.[/QUOTE]That works as good as the branded version. See my previous post about generics. The issue is complex and not easily understood without advanced training, not the kind you get from the Internet. Unfortunately, the generics have to be evaluated almost on case by case basis. My previous experience was I found a generic boner drug that was no better than placebo. Thanks for the recommendation and I will keep an eye out for what you listed.
[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2492056]The "equivalence" used to tout the non-difference is based on milligram to milligram comparison. There is so much more to it grasshopper, more than I can teach you here. In a nutshell, the excipients, binders, and the manufacturing process can be vastly different. This can (not always) greatly alter the AUC (Area Under the Curve) or the biovavailibility of ANY generic drug. If the peaks and valleys of the curve are not aligned with the brand name drug, the generic can become totally ineffective. This involves time of onset and trough levels needed for a drug to be effective. There are entire seminars on this topic. The information is hard to fine because the public is handed the line that all these drugs are equivalent mainly so formularies of insurance companies can save money. That is not to say that a generic can't be as good as the original. It's possible. But not automatic. If you want empirical evidence, talk to a mom who had her kid's Ritalin or other stimulant med switched without their permission, and the night and day difference it made in behavior of said kid, even thought the drug was the "same. " You were right about one thing, there is a huge psychological component in both directions: being told the generic is just as good; or believing it is inferior because it is generic. Why do you think a standard Rx has a "Do Not Substitute" box on it? Because certain drugs are infamous for being ineffective as generics, and that's when the box gets checked by the prescribing physician.[/QUOTE]Thanks.
I always request the best.
I only use name brand meds.
Without criticizing, just out of curiosity for those guys who claim they go bareback, which means penetrating vagina Without a condom, What do you think about catching sexually-transmitted diseases?
Apparently there are entire forums devoted to bareback activities. Which is unexpected considering everybody Has been told in school never to take the condom off. I just want to know what you guys are thinking when you go bareback.
There is actually a rule in this form that prevents members criticizing other members not practicing safe sex.
[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2492056]The "equivalence" used to tout the non-difference is based on milligram to milligram comparison.[/QUOTE]All that you say can be true, but again [I]if the manufacturer is a well reputed industry[/I] the molecule of the active principle is the same, the quantity of the active principle is the declared amount within tolerance margins, and the excipients of course do not have to be exactly the same to not impair the drug effectiveness. We are speaking about sildenafil, not a psychoactive drug with effects sensitive to microvariations in dosage!
You should be more concerned about how the boxes of "authentic Viagra" were stored on their way from the industry to the farmacy to your hands, in what conditions and temperature, than about possible low quality of MK or Genfar products.
[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2492056] Why do you think a standard Rx has a "Do Not Substitute" box on it?[/QUOTE]Indeed this can be considered close to a scam, forcing the people to pay more without necessity. It should be "do not substitute with a dubious product"!
In my country (a major country in Europe) it is simply NOT LEGAL to sell any generic which is not 100% equivalent to the original. I assume this is obvious in any country except in the 4th world. A drug which does not pass a strict verification process is not authorized for sale.
I tell you more: here we have a law that obliges the doctors to prescribe the generic, if available, and not explicitely the original, unless the generic is not equivalent. It was done exactly to forbid dishonest doctors to prescribe more expensive products, when equivalent cheaper generic are available, presumably because lured by big farma with gifts etc. In some cases, the public service does not reimbourse original products above the price of the equivalent generic.
[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2492056]The "equivalence" used to tout the non-difference is based on milligram to milligram comparison. There is so much more to it grasshopper, more than I can teach you here. In a nutshell, the excipients, binders, and the manufacturing process can be vastly different. This can (not always) greatly alter the AUC (Area Under the Curve) or the biovavailibility of ANY generic drug. If the peaks and valleys of the curve are not aligned with the brand name drug, the generic can become totally ineffective. This involves time of onset and trough levels needed for a drug to be effective. There are entire seminars on this topic. The information is hard to fine because the public is handed the line that all these drugs are equivalent mainly so formularies of insurance companies can save money. That is not to say that a generic can't be as good as the original. It's possible. But not automatic. If you want empirical evidence, talk to a mom who had her kid's Ritalin or other stimulant med switched without their permission, and the night and day difference it made in behavior of said kid, even thought the drug was the "same. " You were right about one thing, there is a huge psychological component in both directions: being told the generic is just as good; or believing it is inferior because it is generic. Why do you think a standard Rx has a "Do Not Substitute" box on it? Because certain drugs are infamous for being ineffective as generics, and that's when the box gets checked by the prescribing physician.[/QUOTE]Being a pharmacist, I say the generic drugs are the way to go. The active ingredient of both the generic & band name drugs are made in the same place. The active ingredient is then sent to the various manufacturers, where they stamp out the pills or make into capsules.
[QUOTE=HuskerDude;2492093]Being a pharmacist, I say the generic drugs are the way to go. The active ingredient of both the generic & band name drugs are made in the same place. The active ingredient is then sent to the various manufacturers, where they stamp out the pills or make into capsules.[/QUOTE]Do you seriously think that applies to every country in the world.
[QUOTE=GringoTrooper;2492031]Just a heads up, bringing any pharmaceuticals back from Colombia to the states is a felony.
I may or may not have a friend that had an extremely close encounter with customs upon return to the states regarding this same exact situation.[/QUOTE]That is interesting. First, please note I am European. I am not sure if the regulation is the same as in USA, or a bit more lenient.
Before COVID, in one year I was used to enter USA say 2 times, plus say 3-4 times to Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia (the 3 in each trip), say 2 times to Colombia, Ecuador.
Whenever the trip is longer than 3-4 days and I have my luggage checked in, I always bring a whole big *BAG* of various drugs in my luggage, to cover most kinds of disease and discomfort I may face overseas, including pain killers, antinflammatory, antibiotics, for sore throat, flue, fever,. Of course I seldom needed them, but if I have a problem I like to have my stuff in my bag at hand, rather than to have to go looking for farmacy.
Well, outbound in that bag there is always a supply of Sildenafil sufficient for the whole trip duration, and inbound if I come back from Colombia be sure I have at least 15 boxes of 4 x50 MG Sildenafil Genfar (I cut the blisters to make them smallerr and pack them tight together in other boxes, because the original boxes would take too much room). I have never had a single problem with customs. Once they started to look into my drug bag, and from my side it was enough to say they were for my personal usage, because my trip was longer than 1 week.
To be honest, I could not be sure about what would happen if the customs police identifies 60-80 blue pills with other drugs in my luggage, as I do not have the prescription. However, I have been used to criss-cross borders frantically, and Singapore is usually very strict.
I did it with 3 out of 60 girls last trip. First chick my mind just said you have to f*ck her raw. No kids and beautiful tits. Second time the girl was one of the best I ever been with sexually and it was free LOL. 3rd time I was not going to bareback then my 8 said just don't cum in me. I was like wow this beautiful girl said its okay to fuck her raw I must obliged. For some reason I wasnt concerned about the 8. But I was concern about first 2 even though it was a non payment arrangement. I did buy penicillin to be on the safe side. Anyways soon as I reach the states I took covid and hiv, std test and negative. I will say there was quite a few I wanted to go raw but chose not to.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2492083]Without criticizing, just out of curiosity for those guys who claim they go bareback, which means penetrating vagina Without a condom, What do you think about catching sexually-transmitted diseases?
Apparently there are entire forums devoted to bareback activities. Which is unexpected considering everybody Has been told in school never to take the condom off. I just want to know what you guys are thinking when you go bareback.
There is actually a rule in this form that prevents members criticizing other members not practicing safe sex.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Blakman;2492097]I did it with 3 out of 60 girls last trip. First chick my mind just said you have to f*ck her raw. No kids and beautiful tits. Second time the girl was one of the best I ever been with sexually and it was free LOL. 3rd time I was not going to bareback then my 8 said just don't cum in me. I was like wow this beautiful girl said its okay to fuck her raw I must obliged. For some reason I wasnt concerned about the 8. But I was concern about first 2 even though it was a non payment arrangement. I did buy penicillin to be on the safe side. Anyways soon as I reach the states I took covid and hiv, std test and negative. I will say there was quite a few I wanted to go raw but chose not to.
[/QUOTE]Nice reply. It reminded me of that famous punchline "hold me back, son hold me back, son. " Sounds kind of like a spontaneous thing. Or when a guy meets a girl and all of a sudden they're both feeling very in love and then suddenly that condom appears to be insignificant because they love each other so much. And then and then and then...
Only way Is to prepare mentally for these situations before hand.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2492083]Without criticizing, just out of curiosity for those guys who claim they go bareback, which means penetrating vagina Without a condom, What do you think about catching sexually-transmitted diseases?
Apparently there are entire forums devoted to bareback activities. Which is unexpected considering everybody Has been told in school never to take the condom off. I just want to know what you guys are thinking when you go bareback.
There is actually a rule in this form that prevents members criticizing other members not practicing safe sex.[/QUOTE]Nobody wants to catch an STD, and everybody knows what bareback means, and it's not unexpected that there are forums dedicated to barebacking on ISG, regardless of the sex education classes board members had while in junior high school.
There are a lot of board members who occasionally bareback or exclusively bareback, albeit they are not all going to post about it. As far as what guys are thinking when they have gone bareback, well for some it's the difference between night and day. Sounds like you may have never barebacked someone outside of a monogamaus relationship and might be contemplating it based on your questions. It's a personal choice and comes with risks.
[QUOTE=GringoTrooper;2492031]Just a heads up, bringing any pharmaceuticals back from Colombia to the states is a felony.[/QUOTE]Not really. You can bring almost anything as long as it is not an illegal narcotic and you declare it. You run into problems when you don't declare shit. Same with money. Get caught with over $10,000 that you did not declare and that is when you have problems. For medicine it is supposed to be in the original container and you are supposed to have a prescription for it. As long as you are not trying to bring a suitcase full of viagra. They will not fuck with you for a couple months supply. I know some people that got fucked bringing in massive amounts of steroids. I bring in viagra, asthma medicine, blood pressure medicine, penicillin, cough syrup etc and have never had a problem without having a prescription. Now if your ass want to try to bring in valium then you are on your own.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2492084]All that you say can be true, but again [I]if the manufacturer is a well reputed industry[/I] the molecule of the active principle is the same, the quantity of the active principle is the declared amount within tolerance margins, and the excipients of course do not have to be exactly the same to not impair the drug effectiveness. We are speaking about sildenafil, not a psychoactive drug with effects sensitive to microvariations in dosage!
You should be more concerned about how the boxes of "authentic Viagra" were stored on their way from the industry to the farmacy to your hands, in what conditions and temperature, than about possible low quality of MK or Genfar products.
Indeed this can be considered close to a scam, forcing the people to pay more without necessity. It should be "do not substitute with a dubious product"!
In my country (a major country in Europe) it is simply NOT LEGAL to sell any generic which is not 100% equivalent to the original. I assume this is obvious in any country except in the 4th world. A drug which does not pass a strict verification process is not authorized for sale.c.[/QUOTE]I am glad guys don't get into degrees, background, education, academics, training, etc. Just like when you publish a research paper in a peer reviewed journal, you don't list your degrees, just your last name and first initials, and let the words speak for themselves. I am not trying to convince you of anything, but making sure the other readers don't get a one-sided story. Generic drugs are one of the biggest smoke screens in US Healthcare all because of what? The almighty dollar. Health insurance companies use generics to save billions of dollars on their formularies. A lot of that is good. But until you understand the pharmacology, calculus, pharmacokinetics, and pharmacodynamics, AND pharmacoeconomics, then you cannot understand this issue. Sorry for the "big" words but it's a fact. I have sat in a room and watched slide after slide, over one hundred, of the bioavailability curves for the brand and "equivalent" generic drugs and the curves are so different they are shocking, and in many cases the generic will have lost over 70% of it's therapeutic effect. I judge generics on a drug by drug basis, my background forces me to skeptical. I will admit I have never seen a boiavailability curve for generic Viagra, but I know the generic version me and my buddies tried in Medellin didn't do shit. There is nothing I love more than a good, cheap, generic, but don't blindly accept them all on face value, which was your viewpoint when this discussion started.
[QUOTE=HuskerDude;2492093]Being a pharmacist, I say the generic drugs are the way to go. The active ingredient of both the generic & band name drugs are made in the same place. The active ingredient is then sent to the various manufacturers, where they stamp out the pills or make into capsules.[/QUOTE]I don't know how much of what you say happens, that the ORIGINAL manufacturer is selling the active ingredient to ALL the generic suppliers? There are plenty of generic drug companies making their own drug de novo all over the world.
Even if what you say is true, you supported my argument. As I pointed out, it is the excipients, binders and manufacturing process that makes the difference. Not the milligrams of active drug. Don't ever become a lawyer, when your argument supports the other guy, jajajaja.
Penicillin?
[QUOTE=Blakman;2492097]I did it with 3 out of 60 girls last trip. First chick my mind just said you have to f*ck her raw. No kids and beautiful tits. Second time the girl was one of the best I ever been with sexually and it was free LOL. 3rd time I was not going to bareback then my 8 said just don't cum in me. I was like wow this beautiful girl said its okay to fuck her raw I must obliged. For some reason I wasnt concerned about the 8. But I was concern about first 2 even though it was a non payment arrangement. I did buy penicillin to be on the safe side. Anyways soon as I reach the states I took covid and hiv, std test and negative. I will say there was quite a few I wanted to go raw but chose not to..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HuskerDude;2492093]Being a pharmacist, I say the generic drugs are the way to go. The active ingredient of both the generic & band name drugs are made in the same place. The active ingredient is then sent to the various manufacturers, where they stamp out the pills or make into capsules.[/QUOTE]Active ingredients may be the same but binders are different and therefore absorption and effects. Plus generics have less stringent manufacturing tolerances so each pill can vary in strength more than brand. Case in point, my thyroid meds. Brand name only or I am not right and blood tests aren't either.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2492095]I have at least 15 boxes of 4 x50 MG Sildenafil Genfar[/QUOTE]I remember the limit is 50 pills. I used to print out the custom rules to carry with me so I can show it the custom official. This topic has been discussed in great detail before in Tijuna forum.
[QUOTE=Questner;2492072]People move to another girl whose phone is posted. She is not available at least at the moment. Some providers without phone numbers can be located through other fora.[/QUOTE]130.000 $ does it mean 130 USD or 130000 COL $?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2492055]If they have $20 to send, that's more than the minuscule amount of self esteem they have.
Has anyone looked at the stats for global internet traffic, its seems 146% is free porn LOL.[/QUOTE]That's an interesting number. The maximum amount of internet traffic is 100%. If 146% is free porn, then not only does this forum not exist, nor any other website (each website eats up a tiny percentage of the traffic with information which isn't free porn), every second there is a backlog of requests for free porn that is growing exponentially and by now must be adding at least 1000 years of wait time to the queue every second.
I think what you meant to say is a lot of free porn is available. Yes it is. And everyone who pays for porn is a fool with no self-esteem. Right?
Do you have any idea how much free pussy is available? I recently went to my 40 year high school reunion and of the 35 or so women there, at least a dozen let me know that they would be happy to open their legs for me. 3 of them were there with their husbands. Now obviously, since free pussy is available, anyone who pays for pussy is a fool with no self-esteem.
Let's take it a step further. Check the dumpster behind any restaurant. You know what you'll find? Food. Free food. Only fools with no self-esteem would go to a restaurant and pay for food when they can get the same food for free just outside the back door. There's even napkins in there!
There appears to be a flaw in your reasoning.
Here's how life works:
If you don't want to do something, don't do it.
If someone else wants to do something, don't worry about it.
Nobody is using your money to buy videos. Whether or not some other person buys videos has no effect on you. If you're bothered or offended because people are doing things you have no interest in, your self-esteem is the least of your problems.
Seriously, to everyone, are your situations that pathetic? You have nothing more interesting than to try to tell everyone else what they should or shouldn't be doing?
If some guy wants to rent an $1100 per night penthouse and spend $10 k a night in Parque Lleras, or a guy wants to stay in a $7 per night hostel and spend $15 a day, eating the cheapest food and fucking glue sniffers, don't worry about it.
If some guy wants to send $2000 a month Western Union or hand out $100 Victoria's Secret gift cards, don't worry about it.
If some guy wants to buy photos and videos, watch webcams or buy used panties, don't worry about it.
If some guy wants to fuck fat girls, skinny girls, ugly girls, pregnant girls, one-legged girls or old women, don't worry about it.
If some guy wants to fuck a tranny while some girl pegs him, don't worry about it.
Here's the list of things you should be worrying about:
1. Things that affect your dick.
2. Things that affect your money.
You all sound like a bunch of old ladies gossiping.
50 seems like a reasonable amount for personal use and the personal use of a friend or two. More than that and it starts to feel like trafficking.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2492114]I remember the limit is 50 pills. I used to print out the custom rules to carry with me so I can show it the custom official. This topic has been discussed in great detail before in Tijuna forum.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HuskerDude;2492093]Being a pharmacist, I say the generic drugs are the way to go. The active ingredient of both the generic & band name drugs are made in the same place. The active ingredient is then sent to the various manufacturers, where they stamp out the pills or make into capsules.[/QUOTE]If its a reputable generic manufacturer. Varying levels of generic quality in 3rd world. So find a reputable generic manufacturer and stick with them, even if price is a bit more. I mean once you go generic they are all cheap anyway so why quibble over a few cents. Don't necessarily go for the cheapest generic.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2492003]Claiming that a generic drug is not effective as the "original" just demonstrates the huge ignorance of the claimer. The chemical substance is the same, exactly the same. How could the paper box and label have an effect?[/QUOTE]BP,
I agree with your general point, but there is considerable variation in the processing of the pills and the variation of the amount of medication in the pill. I think you can vary the amount by up to 20% so 50 MG may not always be 50 MG.
It is crazy to pay 10 X the price for the brand name. In fact with Viagra and Cialis, I have found two versions you can buy at the Kamagra store, Kamagra for Viagra and Taladista for Cialis that I think work better than the original, and everyone who has used them says much the same thing.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2491944]Doesn't this tell you there is no correlation with the amount of money spent?
He opened the door to allow himself to be manipulated. Elvis would have paid more if the lock down lasted longer. If there was no lock down, he paid nothing. And after all the effort, some girls still only allow covered sex and no DFK. That is very little return with so much effort.[/QUOTE]I did not pay anything. I invested in long term relationships, and some panned out and some did not which was completely expected. Overall, so far I have gotten the results I wanted, but there is a long way to go.
The best yields come when there are market disruptions. You invest when there is panic / blood in the streets.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2492083] Apparently there are entire forums devoted to bareback activities. Which is unexpected considering everybody Has been told in school never to take the condom off. I just want to know what you guys are thinking when you go bareback.[/QUOTE]Everybody was told not to go past the speed limit, not to cheat on their wife, not to be late to work, not to play with fire, not to go out in those rough seas, not to fuck with those crocodiles, not to wear shorts in Medellin, and everything else under the sun. Why is it so unexpected they would do these things anyway? What are these people thinking when they do all these things someone told them not to do?
[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2492152]If its a reputable generic manufacturer. Varying levels of generic quality in 3rd world. So find a reputable generic manufacturer and stick with them, even if price is a bit more[/QUOTE]Colombia is not (anymore) 3rd world, in the meaning "underdeveloped / poor / everything goes". Colombian pharma industry is reputable and reliable. Genfar and MK have their reputation and supply drugs to hospitals.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2492084]In my country (a major country in Europe) it is simply NOT LEGAL to sell any generic which is not 100% equivalent to the original. I assume this is obvious in any country except in the 4th world. A drug which does not pass a strict verification process is not authorized for sale.[/QUOTE]Not just in your country but in every country that is a member of EU. There is a directive from EU that every member needs to comply with it.
The not the wear shorts part is funny. Don't wear a hat either cause the glue heads near Botero will steal it off your head.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2492214]Everybody was told not to go past the speed limit, not to cheat on their wife, not to be late to work, not to play with fire, not to go out in those rough seas, not to fuck with those crocodiles, not to wear shorts in Medellin, and everything else under the sun. Why is it so unexpected they would do these things anyway? What are these people thinking when they do all these things someone told them not to do?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2492133]That's an interesting number. The maximum amount of internet traffic is 100%. If 146% is free porn, then not only does this forum not exist, nor any other website (each website eats up a tiny percentage of the traffic with information which isn't free porn), every second there is a backlog of requests for free porn that is growing exponentially and by now must be adding at least 1000 years of wait time to the queue every second.
I think what you meant to say is a lot of free porn is available. Yes it is. And everyone who pays for porn is a fool with no self-esteem. Right?
Do you have any idea how much free pussy is available? I recently went to my 40 year high school reunion and of the 35 or so women there, at least a dozen let me know that they would be happy to open their legs for me. 3 of them were there with their husbands. Now obviously, since free pussy is available, anyone who pays for pussy is a fool with no self-esteem.
Let's take it a step further. Check the dumpster behind any restaurant. You know what you'll find? Food. Free food. Only fools with no self-esteem would go to a restaurant and pay for food when they can get the same food for free just outside the back door. There's even napkins in there!
There appears to be a flaw in your reasoning.
Here's how life works:
If you don't want to do something, don't do it.
If someone else wants to do something, don't worry about it.
Nobody is using your money to buy videos. Whether or not some other person buys videos has no effect on you. If you're bothered or offended because people are doing things you have no interest in, your self-esteem is the least of your problems..[/QUOTE]Are the igs so low around here they can't even agree on the most reasonable of issues.
This is a community for mongers to communicate, you sound opposed to that, I'm guessing most foreign mongers in MDE and many other hotspots use ISG.
What other ISG members do with their dicks, affects us all, we are all in the same pond.
What other ISG members do with their money, affects us all, your attitude is the problem.
You suggested we should all "go fuck ourselves".
So why are you even here? You clearly have zero interest in consensus.
I guess you feel special because for some reason you are allowed to insult the board with impunity.
You want absolute freedom for your harmful mongering (and posting) style, yet you don't even want others to criticize it.
Admit it because even you know its indefensible.
This is not really what I wanted to write, because if I did, it would not be posted like yesterday's post.
[QUOTE=Bookie77;2492247]Not just in your country but in every country that is a member of EU. There is a directive from EU that every member needs to comply with it.[/QUOTE]You are 100% correct! I wrote "my country" because I wasn't sure, and I did not want to write something that could have offered the opportunity to attack my main claim, which is the important thing.
[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2492110]Active ingredients may be the same but binders are different and therefore absorption and effects. Plus generics have less stringent manufacturing tolerances so each pill can vary in strength more than brand. Case in point, my thyroid meds. Brand name only or I am not right and blood tests aren't either.[/QUOTE]An excellent one. There are many generics that are not equivalent to the brand and the difference gets worse when you start switching from generic to generic. As is every poster who has attempted to prove me wrong here on this topic, on Covid immunity, on anything health related, they are all back pedalling now, even if they won't admit it. Apparently now we are only talking about Viagra, although if you read back, there are posts claiming all generics are equal to branded drugs, jaja.
I am not writing from Googling, didn't check once, but from education, training and real world experience. I know what changing policy that controlled whether or not thousands of members got switched to a different generic drugs does, including the aftermath and the fall out. The Internet makes a lot of info available to a lot of people but I will not post unless I have direct experience or I will say that I don't. And despite my deserved reputation here and elsewhere on the Internet (Legend in My Own Mind Syndrome, jajaja) as a sarcastic, attention whoring asshole, I don't do this to be right. In fact, I would prefer to be wrong and learn something, but it simply does not happen than often because I know what I don't know which is harder than it sounds. And obviously very hard for certain others here.
I do this so other Users can get what I believe to be the correct information or at least a balanced viewpoint. I won't comment on generics anymore for now. I am happy for anyone who is happy with their generic drug choice. I have respect for other members here, no matter what the topic is you can count on me being a truth-seeker.
Also, with regards to the generic Viagra, it's been noted in psychology that sometimes our minds play tricks on us. And 1 of these instances is When a person see something that is for free or has a low price they trick themselves into thinking that the free lower-priced product cannot be as good as the more expensive one. False belief.
If you want to critique an item on its quality you need evidence to analyze the performance of the item. The higher price may have to do with licensing issues, import taxes, or cost of transportation, amongst other things. And of course, sometimes, the lower-priced products may be coincidentally inferior in quality.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2492307]Also, with regards to the generic Viagra, it's been noted in psychology that sometimes our minds play tricks on us. And 1 of these instances is When a person see something that is for free or has a low price they trick themselves into thinking that the free lower-priced product cannot be as good as the more expensive one. False belief.
If you want to critique an item on its quality you need evidence to analyze the performance of the item. The higher price may have to do with licensing issues, import taxes, or cost of transportation, amongst other things. And of course, sometimes, the lower-priced products may be coincidentally inferior in quality.[/QUOTE]I agree.
This most certainly applies to many mongers that think pussy is better if it cost $500.
I have tried expensive supermodel pussy, and it made me feel like a chump.
I also have tried viagra and cialis in Mexico and it is garbage, it isn't much better in Asia.
I sometimes alternate with viagra and cialis scripts in USA and can state unequivocally the branded pills are superior.
Sometimes you get what you pay for, ie boner pills, sometimes you don't, ie overpriced vagina.
You can pay for chaturbate or watch for free.
You can pay for pornhub or watch for free.
You can join and pay any of the other porn websites or watch for free ala pornhub et al.
For me the best pussy is the best ROI.
The hotter she is.
The cheaper she is.
The better the service for me.
Ie, she swallows, takes a pussy creampie, and / or an ass creampie and eats my ass.
#1 ROI LOL.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2492307]Also, with regards to the generic Viagra, it's been noted in psychology that sometimes our minds play tricks on us. And 1 of these instances is When a person see something that is for free or has a low price they trick themselves into thinking that the free lower-priced product cannot be as good as the more expensive one. False belief.
If you want to critique an item on its quality you need evidence to analyze the performance of the item. The higher price may have to do with licensing issues, import taxes, or cost of transportation, amongst other things. And of course, sometimes, the lower-priced products may be coincidentally inferior in quality.[/QUOTE][URL]https://freakonomics.com/2008/07/24/keep-the-cheap-wine-flowing/[/URL]
I will state there is a negative correlation with price vs service quality in P4P.
The mongers that pay the most get the worst service, a basic paradox of paying for pussy.
Generally speaking the more you pay the less you get.
There may be a difference between a soi 4 girl in bkk and a girl inside nana.
But once you cross a certain point, each market is different.
But once you start to overpay, the ROI shifts into the negative very quickly.
Very simply put, too much is too much.
Cutting in line by overpaying is not the solution.
I concur
[QUOTE=Frank11;2492307]Also, with regards to the generic Viagra, it's been noted in psychology that sometimes our minds play tricks on us. And 1 of these instances is When a person see something that is for free or has a low price they trick themselves into thinking that the free lower-priced product cannot be as good as the more expensive one. False belief.
If you want to critique an item on its quality you need evidence to analyze the performance of the item. The higher price may have to do with licensing issues, import taxes, or cost of transportation, amongst other things. And of course, sometimes, the lower-priced products may be coincidentally inferior in quality.[/QUOTE].
I concur
[QUOTE=Frank11;2492307]Also, with regards to the generic Viagra, it's been noted in psychology that sometimes our minds play tricks on us. And 1 of these instances is When a person see something that is for free or has a low price they trick themselves into thinking that the free lower-priced product cannot be as good as the more expensive one. False belief.
If you want to critique an item on its quality you need evidence to analyze the performance of the item. The higher price may have to do with licensing issues, import taxes, or cost of transportation, amongst other things. And of course, sometimes, the lower-priced products may be coincidentally inferior in quality.[/QUOTE].
You establish a littany of points just to shoot yourself in the foot. Chicks are saying if I can get this amount from sending a guy pics and videos. For 1 I don't need to sell pussy. 2 I might as well up my price if if I am going to do more physical and harmful work. You give them options and it affects the market. Like I said if your doing it for humanitarian purposes I can understand but geez why why why if there is free porn. The point about free food in a dumpster don't ever use that again. Makes less sense than buying pics and videos.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2492133]That's an number. The maximum amount of internet traffic is 100%. If 146% is free porn, then not only does this forum not exist, nor any other website (each website eats up a tiny percentage of the traffic with information which isn't free porn), every second there is a backlog of requests for free porn that is growing exponentially and by now must be adding at least 1000 years of wait time to the queue every second.
I think what you meant to say is a lot of free porn is available. Yes it is. And everyone who pays for porn is a fool with no self-esteem. Right?
Do you have any idea how much free pussy is available? I recently went to my 40 year high school reunion and of the 35 or so women there, at least a dozen let me know that they would be happy to open their legs for me. 3 of them were there with their husbands. Now obviously, since free pussy is available, anyone who pays for pussy is a fool with no self-esteem.
Let's take it a step further. Check the dumpster behind any restaurant. You know what you'll find? Food. Free food. Only fools with no self-esteem would go to a restaurant and pay for food when they can get the same food for free just outside the back door. There's even napkins in there!
There appears to be a flaw in your reasoning.
Here's how life works:
If you don't want to do something, don't do it.
If someone else wants to do something, don't worry about it.
Nobody is using your money to buy videos. Whether or not some other person buys videos has no effect on you. If you're bothered or offended because people are doing things you have no interest in, your self-esteem is the least of your problems.
Seriously, to everyone, are your situations that pathetic? You have nothing more interesting than to try to tell everyone else what they should or shouldn't be doing?
If some guy wants to rent an $1100 per night penthouse and spend $10 k a night in Parque Lleras, or a guy wants to stay in a $7 per night hostel and spend $15 a day, eating the cheapest food and fucking glue sniffers, don't worry about it.
If some guy wants to send $2000 a month Western Union or hand out $100 Victoria's Secret gift cards, don't worry about it.
If some guy wants to buy photos and videos, watch webcams or buy used panties, don't worry about it.
If some guy wants to fuck fat girls, skinny girls, ugly girls, pregnant girls, one-legged girls or old women, don't worry about it.
If some guy wants to fuck a tranny while some girl pegs him, don't worry about it.
Here's the list of things you should be worrying about:
1. Things that affect your dick.
2. Things that affect your money.
You all sound like a bunch of old ladies gossiping.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Frank11;2492307]Also, with regards to the generic Viagra, it's been noted in psychology that sometimes our minds play tricks on us. And 1 of these instances is When a person see something that is for free or has a low price they trick themselves into thinking that the free lower-priced product cannot be as good as the more expensive one. False belief.
If you want to critique an item on its quality you need evidence to analyze the performance of the item. The higher price may have to do with licensing issues, import taxes, or cost of transportation, amongst other things. And of course, sometimes, the lower-priced products may be coincidentally inferior in quality.[/QUOTE]When I wrote, "There is a huge psychological component in both directions: beleiving told the generic is just as good; or believing it is inferior because it is generic."
Oh, and when you can come up with a study that objectively measures performance of an ED drug, I'd like to see that. Surveys? Self reports? Hmmm, notoriously unreliable. I think we need to recruit the best girls Medellin has to offer and let them use their mouth as a gauge, jajaja.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2492028]Theres fools out there that will buy pics and video and you don't need to fuck anymore. Maybe its a humantarian reason behind it. If it is please let it be known so I can make sense of it LOL.[/QUOTE]I was fucking a chick that does the pics, videos, and cam shit. She said a lot of her clients are here in the same city. That blew my fucking mind. Why would they want to do camming or pics and videos when they could just come over here and fuck? She said she did not know. I am actually paying less to fuck all night than some other guys in the same city were paying her for pics and stuff. Hell when you fucking her you can make your own pics and videos! But I guess everybody has a thing.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2492336]You establish a littany of points just to shoot yourself in the foot. Chicks are saying if I can get this amount from sending a guy pics and videos. For 1 I don't need to sell pussy. 2 I might as well up my price if if I am going to do more physical and harmful work. You give them options and it affects the market. Like I said if your doing it for humanitarian purposes I can understand but geez why why why if there is free porn. The point about free food in a dumpster don't ever use that again. Makes less sense than buying pics and videos..[/QUOTE]Other than the price of what the dude is paying at that moment. I don't for pay for pics, pretty sure you don't. I don't give a shit who does. I think it was you who said that it's factual that paying for pics and videos drives up prices, if it wasn't you someone did? Where are those facts? How do you check those facts, or aren't we really talking more about opinon and beliefs? I call them mystical beliefs when some kind of magical cause and effect is attributed to non related events. I can think of a way to check what puta prices are doing, objectively. Can you?
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2492042]I had $50,000 jump into my lap due to an accounting error. Great right? Nope, I formed a lot of bad habits from that easy money.[/QUOTE]I am glad that I formed my bad habits when I was broke so I could realize they really did not require a lot of money. Now that I have money, my bad habits are costing me the same as when I didn't.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2492042]American men are so used to ceding women power it is ridiculous. When the ex fianc told me "You cannot force me to marry you", that told me it was something she was worried about. So I talked to a Peruvian lawyer about it, and he told me that I pretty much could put her in a position where marrying me was her best option.
And you guys think money only buys sex. It buys power[/QUOTE]Brother all this stuff you are talking is above my paygrade. I am not out here trying to get into psychological warfare with women (least of all broke ass women!) I am out here trying to have a good time and enjoy myself.
It seems you are putting too much stress on yourself with all this getting lawyers involved and trying to purchase power stuff. If a chick pizzes me off or does not want to be with me then it is a simple hit the door; good luck with the next guy. I am not rubbing my hands together scheming how can I show her who's boss like Mr. Burns on The Simpsons. Maybe thinking of vengeance is something for guys that have sunk so much money into chicks. I can cut bait at the drop of a hat with no losses.
To me you are doing it to yourself. If you want to know how someone really feels about you then you DON'T give them money. However you choose to throw more and more money at them hoping it will cause their sentiments to change. You don't have to try to buy someone that really likes you for you. And as you have seen, a chick even only will like your money for so long. The majority of people would rather be broke than to be with someone they did not like. But once again, everybody has their thing. I guess yours is using money to try to force chicks to dig you. It will never work.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2492336]You establish a littany of points just to shoot yourself in the foot. Chicks are saying if I can get this amount from sending a guy pics and videos. For 1 I don't need to sell pussy. 2 I might as well up my price if if I am going to do more physical and harmful work. You give them options and it affects the market. Like I said if your doing it for humanitarian purposes I can understand but geez why why why if there is free porn. The point about free food in a dumpster don't ever use that again. Makes less sense than buying pics and videos..[/QUOTE]I've stood right there on la 70 and watched people opening up the bags of garbage the restaurants set out at night and start eating. Might not be as warm or fresh, but it's the same food other people are paying for in the restaurant.
Here's something that will really make you happy. You know those uneaten side items, or uneaten chips or salsa? Restaurants have been known to. Shall we say, recycle? Had it happen to me once. Found something in my food that could have only been put there by another diner.
So now you're spending money on food that may have been partially eaten by someone else and claiming it's somehow superior to getting the same thing for free. Yet you claim paying for specific porn, from a specific girl, often with special requests to suit someone's fetishes is much worse than accepting generic, made for everyone, porn? That right there is hypocrisy! Either start eating out of the garbage, or stop complaining about people buying porn.
Are you trying to tell me that you have been unable to find any girls who will come over for less than 200 k plus taxi? Because before, 150 k plus taxi or 200 k was pretty much the standard rate. If people buying pics and videos has raised the prices, then there's no way you're getting away with less than 200 k.
Now that I think about it, you need to back your blame up at least 7 years. That's when the Colombian webcam industry started booming. I won't repeat the amount of money that can be made on webcam. Anyone interested can look it up. There's a job without physical interaction with guys, which offers more money than most hookers can make. It's even more tempting now since 7 years ago the exchange was 1900 to 1 and now it's 3800 to 1, and they get paid in dollars.
Why aren't you screaming bloody murder at the guys who view webcams? If a few months of a few girls selling videos has ruined the market, just imagine how much 30 k-40 k Colombian webcam models have ruined the market in the past 7 years.
Yes, there are girls who want to sell pics and videos. Shit, 6 years ago there were girls trying to sell pics and videos. There are also girls who want guys to send money. There are girls who want guys to send gifts. There are girls who want guys to take them on trips. I had one girl ask me to buy her a moto.
But you know what all those girls do when the guy they're talking to won't play their game? They switch to whatever will get them paid.
For a price, I'll be happy to teach you my course on how to deal with these types of situations. Normally I'd give an ISG discount. However, since I've already explained it to you 3 times, I'll need to charge full price.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2492364]I was fucking a chick that does the pics, videos, and cam shit. She said a lot of her clients are here in the same city. That blew my fucking mind. Why would they want to do camming or pics and videos when they could just come over here and fuck? She said she did not know. I am actually paying less to fuck all night than some other guys in the same city were paying her for pics and stuff. Hell when you fucking her you can make your own pics and videos! But I guess everybody has a thing.[/QUOTE]You're a man of the world. Why act surprised? I've watched guys in strip clubs give girls $100 for a $20 lap dance. I knew one stripper, a customer paid to send her to NYC for 2 days to have a particular photographer take pictures of her feet, paid the photographer and gave her $2500 plus expenses. For $1000 or less he could have taken the pics himself and jerked off on her toes.
Shit. There are even guys who pay to fly to different countries, just to pay women for sex when there's plenty of women right around the corner who will fuck them for free and cook them breakfast.
Everybody finds their thing, whatever that thing is, and they do it. There's no understanding it. You have said you make all the hookers say they love you. Baffles the fuck out of me, why, but that's your thing. Blakman gets the girls to table dance for him. Again, I don't understand it, but that's his thing. Yippeekaye pays girls to let him bareback them for a week and doesn't let them wash their pussy out. Another head scratchier. But that's his thing.
Unless your thing is going to harm someone else, then get out there and do it. Life's too short to spend griping about what other people are doing.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2492307]Also, with regards to the generic Viagra, it's been noted in psychology that sometimes our minds play tricks on us. And 1 of these instances is When a person see something that is for free or has a low price they trick themselves into thinking that the free lower-priced product cannot be as good as the more expensive one. False belief.
If you want to critique an item on its quality you need evidence to analyze the performance of the item. The higher price may have to do with licensing issues, import taxes, or cost of transportation, amongst other things. And of course, sometimes, the lower-priced products may be coincidentally inferior in quality.[/QUOTE]I can't believe all of the posts about the little blue pill that the majority of the board members use. It's been around a long time, and I even remember Pfizer's first pitch man for the product Bob Dole. I guess that calls me out as an old fart. It's interesting that after this drug came out, there were a lot of subsequent divorces.
It actually was a miracle drug at the time when you think about it, when it came out it enabled men who hadn't been able to get an erection let alone maintain one have sex after many years of being impotent. Hence a lot of guys getting divorced and chasing after younger women, and what a bonaza for mongers!
Has anyone been there lately that would care to weigh in? I'm thinking of possibly doing a trip next month. Also been seeing a few airbnbs that are limiting guest access due to Covid thought I would let the BM's know.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2492415]I can't believe all of the posts about the little blue pill that the majority of the board members use. It's been around a long time, and I even remember Pfizer's first pitch man for the product Bob Dole. I guess that calls me out as an old fart. It's interesting that after this drug came out, there were a lot of subsequent divorces.
It actually was a miracle drug at the time when you think about it, when it came out it enabled men who hadn't been able to get an erection let alone maintain one have sex after many years of being impotent. Hence a lot of guys getting divorced and chasing after younger women, and what a bonaza for mongers![/QUOTE]I plan on mongering til 100+ I don't expect to be picking up new sources of income, that being said, I will need to manage my funds to last many many more years of mongering.
A problem I'm more than happy to have thanks to lilly and pfizer, I despise big pharma but they did really good here.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2492399]You're a man of the world. Why act surprised? I've watched guys in strip clubs give girls $100 for a $20 lap dance. I knew one stripper, a customer paid to send her to NYC for 2 days to have a particular photographer take pictures of her feet, paid the photographer and gave her $2500 plus expenses. For $1000 or less he could have taken the pics himself and jerked off on her toes.
Shit. There are even guys who pay to fly to different countries, just to pay women for sex when there's plenty of women right around the corner who will fuck them for free and cook them breakfast.
Everybody finds their thing, whatever that thing is, and they do it. There's no understanding it. You have said you make all the hookers say they love you. Baffles the fuck out of me, why, but that's your thing. Blakman gets the girls to table dance for him. Again, I don't understand it, but that's his thing. Yippeekaye pays girls to let him bareback them for a week and doesn't let them wash their pussy out. Another head scratchier. But that's his thing.
Unless your thing is going to harm someone else, then get out there and do it. Life's too short to spend griping about what other people are doing.[/QUOTE]Man do I like this post!
Life is truly short, being happy and doing your thing is definitely not overrated.
There will always be the criticizers and the nay sayers, however, once one learns to ignore and / or not care about them, life gets better.
Most of us, I imagine, know this.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2492434]Man do I like this post!
Life is truly short, being happy and doing your thing is definitely not overrated.
There will always be the criticizers and the nay sayers, however, once one learns to ignore and / or not care about them, life gets better.
Most of us, I imagine, know this.[/QUOTE]Well said, however the reality is that most don't know this.
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2492319]Cutting in line by overpaying is not the solution.[/QUOTE]This is actually an interesting critique. I agree it's not good for Ronnie to out bid Lucy's current customer so Lucy goes home with Ronnie. It's Way better for Ronnie to find an alternative to Lucy that isn't busy with a another customer. However, the problem arises when Ronnie can't find an alternative. Ronnie isn't attracted to the other girls. Buying time with girls Ronnie doesn't like is worse than jerking off.
The solution here is to find a bigger market Or market that actually interest Ronnie.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2492397]
Are you trying to tell me that you have been unable to find any girls who will come over for less than 200 k plus taxi? Because before, 150 k plus taxi or 200 k was pretty much the standard rate. If people buying pics and videos has raised the prices, then there's no way you're getting away with less than 200 k. [/QUOTE]That's too simplistic a view of the market. The price isn't controlled entirely entirely by people buying pics and videos. But to say that it doesn't have any effect is not very smart. You can have the prices stay the same but still have an upward pressure on prices due to other factors pushing prices down. You can also have prices stay the same but the product shifts underneath. Meaning sure you can find girls for 150 k and 200 k but they're not the same caliber of girls that used to be available at that price.
If you're buying pics and videos off the internet and are happy with it that's great, but it definitely does affect prices.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2492397]
Now that I think about it, you need to back your blame up at least 7 years. That's when the Colombian webcam industry started booming. I won't repeat the amount of money that can be made on webcam. Anyone interested can look it up. There's a job without physical interaction with guys, which offers more money than most hookers can make. It's even more tempting now since 7 years ago the exchange was 1900 to 1 and now it's 3800 to 1, and they get paid in dollars. [/QUOTE]Those were the days, less gringos in parque lleras but everything overall more expensive. I'm not sure how long 3800 is going to last, but lets enjoy it while it does.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2492397] Why aren't you screaming bloody murder at the guys who view webcams? If a few months of a few girls selling videos has ruined the market, just imagine how much 30 k-40 k Colombian webcam models have ruined the market in the past 7 years.
Yes, there are girls who want to sell pics and videos. Shit, 6 years ago there were girls trying to sell pics and videos. There are also girls who want guys to send money. There are girls who want guys to send gifts. There are girls who want guys to take them on trips. I had one girl ask me to buy her a moto. [/QUOTE]I make it pretty clear I don't want to buy girls shit. I don't even want to give them taxi money.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2492397] But you know what all those girls do when the guy they're talking to won't play their game? They switch to whatever will get them paid. [/QUOTE]True that.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2492397] For a price, I'll be happy to teach you my course on how to deal with these types of situations. Normally I'd give an ISG discount. However, since I've already explained it to you 3 times, I'll need to charge full price.[/QUOTE]I'll take your guide, sound like a steal. I have some pics and videos for in exchange.
At the end of the day, people are going to spend what they are going to spend try to justify it to themselves to make themselves feel good. I do the same thing. Everyone does.
A month ago a want to be WebCam girl message my friend. He went to her Virtual room that shee was just starting out and she had a huge sign saying it was Her birthday and was asking viewers for money and gifts. Her birthday. Suuure. A month later she message my friend again she Explained at the beginning of the month she didn't have Internet so she stayed Somewhere That provided her with Internet and now she owed the tenant rent money. Of course she made nothing from her WebCam photos nor videos. Not even enough to pay thee rent. She kept telling myFriend that she was going to resort to escorting to pay her rent and Internet bill.
SoJudging by this story I suppose practically all web cam girls are broke and just like this online YouTube video business only a very few percentage of performers are actually making excessive amounts of money and then the next percentage is living below the poverty line and after that practically nobody makes anything. This web cam stuff is just the side hustle at least for most girls. If theey get lucky maybe they make some beer money.
Concerning the other post talking about leftover food at restaurants. I never really understood that because I always take all my leftover food in the restaurant home and Eat it later the same day or the following day. I just can't understand why anybody would leave food on the plate. Maybe to help out the homeboys opening the bags at the end of the day?
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2492315]I agree.
This most certainly applies to many mongers that think pussy is better if it cost $500.
I have tried expensive supermodel pussy, and it made me feel like a chump.
I also have tried viagra and cialis in Mexico and it is garbage, it isn't much better in Asia.
I sometimes alternate with viagra and cialis scripts in USA and can state unequivocally the branded pills are superior.
Sometimes you get what you pay for, ie boner pills, sometimes you don't, ie overpriced vagina.
You can pay for chaturbate or watch for free.
You can pay for pornhub or watch for free.
You can join and pay any of the other porn websites or watch for free ala pornhub et al.[/QUOTE]How much do you usually pay for 2 hours and overnight for the girls in Medellin?
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2492079]Nov 2018 I went to Moscow for my bday, I had never tried SA before, well Moscow is a very tough town to monger, so I thought I would try SA within 1-2 hours a few girls including an African sent me messages.
I asked how much most said either $1500 or $2000 for 2 hrs, I laughed and responded OK, 2000 or 1500 rubles, they immediately blocked me, 2 or 3 hrs later I was blocked from SA.
Someone must of reported me, and SA kicked me off and gave me a refund.[/QUOTE]I got similar response recently. Some rich millionaires or billionaires must be spoiling them. I also encounter a lot of scammers, asking me to transfer money online. Telling him her sister is sick and no healthcare. Another girl said she is starving.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2492077]Maybe you should ask in the Russia or Ukraine forum. They would know better.[/QUOTE]No one talks about SA there.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2492383]If a chick pizzes me off or does not want to be with me then it is a simple hit the door; good luck with the next guy. I am not rubbing my hands together scheming how can I show her who's boss[/QUOTE]If all you are interested in is a working girl and only what is between a woman's legs that is a great strategy. Why would I give up on the best women who have a flaw or two that can be corrected?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2492383]If you want to know how someone really feels about you then you DON'T give them money. However you choose to throw more and more money at them hoping it will cause their sentiments to change.[/QUOTE]You really do not understand the game. You show women money to get their interest. After that, you are on your own.
In fact, the best women hate the notion that they are pay for play and often bend over backwards to prove they are not.
Of the seven women I saw in Colombia, I paid one a wage, gave cash gifts to three which was my choice (I just stuck the money in their purses), and gave no cash to the other three.
Every day my phone lights up from these women. I love you, I miss you, when are you coming to see me? 4 from women today and 8 from women in the last four days, and there was not one request for cash.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2492383]You don't have to try to buy someone that really likes you for you. And as you have seen, a chick even only will like your money for so long.[/QUOTE]The problem with you Mr. E is you make judgements and only read whatever you want. When I was giving the women money, it was not a blank check, it was money for needs and a lot of times I turned them down.
I think that you are totally oblivious to what these Colombian women were going through and now that things have opened up, I have told them I am going to only give them money when I am see them unless they have a huge need.
Later this month, I will be flying a woman to meet me where I live. Sure, I have to pay for an airline ticket, but I would do that with a girlfriend. You guys and your shit are always diminishing the quality of the women but if this woman were here, she would be getting $500 an hour. For three days, the going rate for her would be 3 to 5 grand. Still, when I communicated to her about the flight, money was never brought up. We have great sex, but we enjoy each other's company.
This the resume of the woman I called my super model. She is a different woman.
Miss Teen Venezuela World Star Model.
Miss Venezuela Caribbean international.
Modelo en la fashion week cartagena Colombia.
Actriz principal obra de teatro "PLAN b" - Venezuela.
Modelo e imagen de diversas marcas Rolex-World Golf Championships (Mexico), Nike (Chile), FOREVER21 (panama), Chilevision (Chile), CMB (consejo mundial de boxeo), Porshe (Panama), F1 (Gran premio de mexico 2017) entre muchas otras.
This woman was mad at me because she found the hair of another woman in the shower of my hotel room. Is that something a working girl would be upset at? It shows she had an emotional investment in me, and it spurred on a conversation. I told her that I thought we were going to be friends and I would see her when I was in Mexico City. I said that I did not think you wanted to be my sugar baby or my novia? She said, "I want to be your novia. And I said, "Well, I said. I do not feel like you do. I text you and call you and you do not respond."
She said her family who is in Venezuela had stressed her out so much with texts and calls she would just turn off her phone. She had been supporting them with her modeling but because of Covid, she was out of work. That time, I did not give her any cash. I just sent money to her family in Venezuela because I had learned how. She has been much better responding since then.
You can pay for sex and passion. What you cannot pay for is after that. Does she stroke your head, give you that special loving look and smile, and then buries her head in your chest like there is nowhere else in the world she would rather be? To me, that is almost better than the sex. If I do not get that, I suspect the woman is a working girl.
The woman coming to see me asked for $150 to help with her credit card a few weeks ago, and all you would say is, "You paid a woman and got no sex? Ha, you are an idiot. Never pay in advance." That $150 helped cement a $5000 value.
So you guys can laugh all you want at the times I give $150 and get burned. If I buy five stocks, and four go to zero and one goes up 1000% I have made a killing, yet all you dummies think that I have done is lost money.
I showed the picture of the beauty queen I met in Cartagena. Instead of asking how did you land that, you dummies are like, "those pictures are from her Tinder page." And I have never used Tinder.
The more mature but wrong question I get is how much? You can show women that you have money and are successful, but if you make these women feel like hookers and are paying them for services rendered then you have already lost.
You think you are so smart Mr. E but you do not even get the concept of investing in women. You think spending money on women is purely a cost, and the reality is that I am getting way better than you and for waaaay cheaper. The funny part is I think there is a part of you that knows it too.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2492415]I can't believe all of the posts about the little blue pill that the majority of the board members use. It's been around a long time, and I even remember Pfizer's first pitch man for the product Bob Dole. I guess that calls me out as an old fart. It's interesting that after this drug came out, there were a lot of subsequent divorces.
It actually was a miracle drug at the time when you think about it, when it came out it enabled men who hadn't been able to get an erection let alone maintain one have sex after many years of being impotent. Hence a lot of guys getting divorced and chasing after younger women, and what a bonaza for mongers![/QUOTE]Yeah I remember those commercials too as a teenager. Also remember Johnny Carson saying he went into the bathroom to try this new "miracle drug" but accidentally dropped the pill in the toilet aaaaand.
The toilet seat popped up! Ba Dum Bump!
At the end of the day we agree to disagree and since you can bring humor to the debate your alright with me. But please no more expounding on eating out the dumpster. Homeless people does that. Hopefully theres no one on this site homeless. So its an irrelevant analogy.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2492397]I've stood right there on la 70 and watched people opening up the bags of garbage the restaurants set out at night and start eating. Might not be as warm or fresh, but it's the same food other people are paying for in the restaurant.
Here's something that will really make you happy. You know those uneaten side items, or uneaten chips or salsa? Restaurants have been known to. Shall we say, recycle? Had it happen to me once. Found something in my food that could have only been put there by another diner.
So now you're spending money on food that may have been partially eaten by someone else and claiming it's somehow superior to getting the same thing for free. Yet you claim paying for specific porn, from a specific girl, often with special requests to suit someone's fetishes is much worse than accepting generic, made for everyone, porn? That right there is hypocrisy! Either start eating out of the garbage, or stop complaining about people buying porn.
Are you trying to tell me that you have been unable to find any girls who will come over for less than 200 k plus taxi? Because before, 150 k plus taxi or 200 k was pretty much the standard rate. If people buying pics and videos has raised the prices, then there's no way you're getting away with less than 200 k.
Now that I think about it, you need to back your blame up at least 7 years. That's when the Colombian webcam industry started booming. I won't repeat the amount of money that can be made on webcam. Anyone interested can look it up. There's a job without physical interaction with guys, which offers more money than most hookers can make. It's even more tempting now since 7 years ago the exchange was 1900 to 1 and now it's 3800 to 1, and they get paid in dollars.
Why aren't you screaming bloody murder at the guys who view webcams? If a few months of a few girls selling videos has ruined the market, just imagine how much 30 k-40 k Colombian webcam models have ruined the market in the past 7 years.
Yes, there are girls who want to sell pics and videos. Shit, 6 years ago there were girls trying to sell pics and videos. There are also girls who want guys to send money. There are girls who want guys to send gifts. There are girls who want guys to take them on trips. I had one girl ask me to buy her a moto.
But you know what all those girls do when the guy they're talking to won't play their game? They switch to whatever will get them paid.
For a price, I'll be happy to teach you my course on how to deal with these types of situations. Normally I'd give an ISG discount. However, since I've already explained it to you 3 times, I'll need to charge full price.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2492160]BP,
I agree with your general point, but there is considerable variation in the processing of the pills and the variation of the amount of medication in the pill. I think you can vary the amount by up to 20% so 50 MG may not always be 50 MG.[/QUOTE]True, but if the manufacturer does not have high quality standards. Actually, the tolerance on the amount of medication is the main problem of generic drugs, when they come from lower quality industry. (I exclude fake products, counterfeited)
Here nobody (or at least not me) claimed to buy *any* generic and be confident it is equivalent to the original brand. The point is that if the manufacturer has its good reputation and works under quality controls of the local Agency, paying more for the "original" is just stupid (yet psychological action has its merit): the two products are 100% equivalent.
One may not trust Colombia as a system and Colombian Pharma Industry, but Colombia is not Papua New Guinea. Maybe tomorrow Colombia newspapers will post articles on a scandal affecting Genfar, proven to cheat and do not apply quality policies, but this did not happen yet. For the time being, I trust MK and Genfar, as Colombian doctors do.
Once again: in my country (I would say in all Europe) we have even a law that obliges the doctors to prescribe the generic, if available, and not explicitly the original, unless a generic fully equivalent is not available. In some cases, the public service does not even reimburse original products above the price of the equivalent generic.
I know you will not believe this, but trust me it is 100% true.
Earlier today I was talking with a girl, a university student from Medellin spending 1 year of study in my country (no, I do not fuck, I have my reputation and I pretend to be totally uninterested to girls from Medellin).
So we had a conversation starting with "how is situation in Medellin now?", then "are there tourists?", etc. She said that the President decided to reopen the country to tourists in spite of the terrible COVID situation, and people from USA are now coming, etc.
So I could not refrain to ask
- "Wow! Many gringos are used to go to Medellin? I remember I was seeing many around the city"
and she
. "Siii... Todos en Lleras..!".
I am a nasty guy, so I insisted "And also in Centro? How do you spot them??"
- [i]"Siiii... muchos... se veen muchos caminando, todos estan con pantalones cortos!"[/i]
When I heard this I wanted to rush to the computer. I could not wait longer to write this here.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2492336]........Chicks are saying if I can get this amount from sending a guy pics and videos. For 1 I don't need to sell pussy. 2 I might as well up my price if if I am going to do more physical and harmful work. You give them options and it affects the market. Like I said if your doing it for humanitarian purposes I can understand but geez why why why if there is free porn. The point about free food in a dumpster don't ever use that again. Makes less sense than buying pics and videos.[/QUOTE]I see people making this same (or closely related) argument all the time. Let's think this through a little, shall we?
Girl is selling pics and videos to scare up a little money. Does this mean that she thinks to herself. HEY self! If I can sell the suckers some pics and videos I don't need to sell my holy vag, or better yet, I can sell it for more.
Maybe you think that way but you're dealing with an immature girl who doesn't think anything like the way you do.
Let me explain. Young little paisa makes a few pesos selling the pics and vids. She doesn't put that money in a bank account. Most banks won't let her open an account because she doesn't have a job. So what does she do? She spends that money. She buys a shirt she likes, or another pair of sneakers or a flashy purse but she spends it. Tomorrow she looks in her barren wallet and it all starts again. She's going to sell what every can be sold to make some more money. Her holy vag is not exempt because of yesterday's pic and vid sale.
We often see the typical thesis. Don't overpay you'll ruin it for all of us. Seriously? What a joke. Let's see how it plays out for our young paisa. She gets a call after watching tele-novelas all day. Guy offers her 150 mil + taxi and she's en route after a little clean up and stuff. She gets there does her thing takes the money and goes home. First thing she stops at her store and gets a new pair of shoes she really wants and then goes home and gives mom 20 mil for looking after her little kid. She calls up her best amiga and tells her she had a good score and they go out drinking. Maybe some guys buy them drinks but most likely not because local men are as cheap as a lot of the mongerers on here. So a little tipsy she finally goes home. She wakes up and looks in her wallet and there it is 12 mil and 300 pesos. And it starts all over again just like yesterday. Oh and if our visiting extranjero paid her 250 mil + taxi? She just bought the shoes and a pair of designer pants she wants, gives her mother 30 mil for baby sitting and household expenses and invites her best 2 amigas to go out dancing and drinking. Same result in the morning 12 mil 300 pesos. Did the guy who overpaid ruin the market? I don't think so.
Are all girls like this? Maybe not all but certainly most. BTW she doesn't write any notes on the guys she sees so she won't remember what you paid her but she will remember the guys who give her extra money. She likes them. So do I f* it up for you? Maybe, the next time you make a date and she doesn't show or cancels, it might be because someone else offered her a little more and she canceled you to be with him. Happens all the time.
I'm not saying to throw your money around (that can cause you problems in a different direction) but the premise that it screws up the marketplace is laughable.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2492399]Everybody finds their thing, whatever that thing is, and they do it. There's no understanding it. You have said you make all the hookers say they love you. Baffles the fuck out of me, why, but that's your thing.[/QUOTE]LOL. That is just me clowning and talking shit to chicks. It is a song called U Ain't Gotta Mean It: Tell me that you love me when we fucking you ain't gotta mean it. I also say shit like "Girl if your mama could see you now". Or "If this is a dream then I am going to be mad as hell. "
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2492551]I know you will not believe this, but trust me it is 100% true.
Earlier today I was talking with a girl, a university student from Medellin spending 1 year of study in my country (no, I do not fuck, I have my reputation and I pretend to be totally uninterested to girls from Medellin).
So we had a conversation starting with "how is situation in Medellin now?", then "are there tourists?", etc. She said that the President decided to reopen the country to tourists in spite of the terrible COVID situation, and people from USA are now coming, etc.
So I could not refrain to ask
- "Wow! Many gringos are used to go to Medellin? I remember I was seeing many around the city"
and she
. "Siii... Todos en Lleras..!".
I am a nasty guy, so I insisted "And also in Centro? How do you spot them??"
- [i]"Siiii... muchos... se veen muchos caminando, todos estan con pantalones cortos!"[/i]
When I heard this I wanted to rush to the computer. I could not wait longer to write this here.[/QUOTE]Ha Ha, that might be why we couldn't get a cab at 7 pm. One time my friend and I were walking toward la 70 after getting lost looking for a casa, we tried to flag down several cabs none would stop for us. When we finally got to the apartments, we were asking the portero why the taxis wouldn't pull over, he laughingly said that we looked too much like colombians LOL. We even had chicas called us ratas, thinking that we were colombians acting as gringos. I guess we should have worn shorts.
I'm confused, what is supposed to be hard to believe. There are piles of youtube videos of random street scenes around Medellin. Anyone can watch them and judge for themselves. Personally I don't care if guys wear burkas or diapers. It changes nothing for me.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2492551]I know you will not believe this, but trust me it is 100% true.
Earlier today I was talking with a girl, a university student from Medellin spending 1 year of study in my country (no, I do not fuck, I have my reputation and I pretend to be totally uninterested to girls from Medellin).
So we had a conversation starting with "how is situation in Medellin now?", then "are there tourists?", etc. She said that the President decided to reopen the country to tourists in spite of the terrible COVID situation, and people from USA are now coming, etc.
So I could not refrain to ask
- "Wow! Many gringos are used to go to Medellin? I remember I was seeing many around the city"
and she
. "Siii... Todos en Lleras..!".
I am a nasty guy, so I insisted "And also in Centro? How do you spot them??"
- [i]"Siiii... muchos... se veen muchos caminando, todos estan con pantalones cortos!"[/i]
When I heard this I wanted to rush to the computer. I could not wait longer to write this here.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Black Page;2492551]
- [i]"Siiii... muchos... se veen muchos caminando, todos estan con pantalones cortos!"[/i]
[/QUOTE]
Good undercover work detective. Keep them on their heels. Justice and Liberty.
Remember these same people who appear civilized today are the dogmatic fanatics that tomorrow will implement the Nordic model and the model from Georgia if given a chance.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2492596]Good undercover work detective. Keep them on their heels. Justice and Liberty.
Remember these same people who appear civilized today are the dogmatic fanatics that tomorrow will implement the Nordic model and the model from Georgia if given a chance.[/QUOTE]Yikes, I thought some of my posts were hard to decipher, yet this one even though it's in English I cannot comprehend, perhaps a translation for myself and other board members who might be scratching their heads.
I have been here 3 days now and I am being hunted like a shark. I'm running out of leche. Jesus these girls are hungry. Its like clockwork. One comes, stays 2 hours and the next one comes 30 minutes later. My facebook is flooded. I can not answer them all.
[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2492612]I have been here 3 days now and I am being hunted like a shark. I'm running out of leche. Jesus these girls are hungry. Its like clockwork. One comes, stays 2 hours and the next one comes 30 minutes later. My facebook is flooded. I can not answer them all.[/QUOTE]I have never used FB for mongering but it looks like I might have to give it a shot when I head down in a few weeks haha. Thanks for the report!
[QUOTE=Blakman;2492515]At the end of the day we agree to disagree and since you can bring humor to the debate your alright with me. But please no more expounding on eating out the dumpster. Homeless people does that. Hopefully theres no one on this site homeless. So its an irrelevant analogy.
.[/QUOTE]Don't take offense. He just gets overly dramatic about anything he can. Its just his style. The best thing about the board is that you can see how other people monger and do their thing. Whether or not you follow their lead is up to you.
[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2492612]I have been here 3 days now and I am being hunted like a shark. I'm running out of leche. Jesus these girls are hungry. Its like clockwork. One comes, stays 2 hours and the next one comes 30 minutes later. My facebook is flooded. I can not answer them all.[/QUOTE]Too many facebook chicas in need of money at the moment. I don't have enough time for them. I mostly ignore them. Had one over here yesterday. Young 22 year old paisa in need of some cash. Gave her 100 k + 20 k taxi.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2492622]Too many facebook chicas in need of money at the moment. I don't have enough time for them. I mostly ignore them. Had one over here yesterday. Young 22 year old paisa in need of some cash. Gave her 100 k + 20 k taxi.[/QUOTE]I'm giving them 150 + taxi but I ask for 2 hours and sin condon. Some are offended at first but I just say "ok amor, adios" 5 minutes later they accept.
How do you seek out these girls. Is there a search group? This is the only area I am not versed on. I did get with one. But most girls friend list is private. At least that's what I experience.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2492622]Too many facebook chicas in need of money at the moment. I don't have enough time for them. I mostly ignore them. Had one over here yesterday. Young 22 year old paisa in need of some cash. Gave her 100 k + 20 k taxi.[/QUOTE].
Dearly beloved mongers we are gathered here to bid farewell to the passing of these three subjects. We promise to move on from them and continue on with our lives. AMEN!
[QUOTE=Villainy;2492569]I see people making this same (or closely related) argument all the time. Let's think this through a little, shall we?
Girl is selling pics and videos to scare up a little money. Does this mean that she thinks to herself. HEY self! If I can sell the suckers some pics and videos I don't need to sell my holy vag, or better yet, I can sell it for more.
Maybe you think that way but you're dealing with an immature girl who doesn't think anything like the way you do.
Let me explain. Young little paisa makes a few pesos selling the pics and vids. She doesn't put that money in a bank account. Most banks won't let her open an account because she doesn't have a job. So what does she do? She spends that money. She buys a shirt she likes, or another pair of sneakers or a flashy purse but she spends it. Tomorrow she looks in her barren wallet and it all starts again. She's going to sell what every can be sold to make some more money. Her holy vag is not exempt because of yesterday's pic and vid sale.
We often see the typical thesis. Don't overpay you'll ruin it for all of us. Seriously? What a joke. Let's see how it plays out for our young paisa. She gets a call after watching tele-novelas all day. Guy offers her 150 mil + taxi and she's en route after a little clean up and stuff. She gets there does her thing takes the money and goes home. First thing she stops at her store and gets a new pair of shoes she really wants and then goes home and gives mom 20 mil for looking after her little kid. She calls up her best amiga and tells her she had a good score and they go out drinking. Maybe some guys buy them drinks but most likely not because local men are as cheap as a lot of the mongerers on here. So a little tipsy she finally goes home. She wakes up and looks in her wallet and there it is 12 mil and 300 pesos. And it starts all over again just like yesterday. Oh and if our visiting extranjero paid her 250 mil + taxi? She just bought the shoes and a pair of designer pants she wants, gives her mother 30 mil for baby sitting and household expenses and invites her best 2 amigas to go out dancing and drinking. Same result in the morning 12 mil 300 pesos. Did the guy who overpaid ruin the market? I don't think so.
Are all girls like this? Maybe not all but certainly most. BTW she doesn't write any notes on the guys she sees so she won't remember what you paid her but she will remember the guys who give her extra money. She likes them. So do I f* it up for you? Maybe, the next time you make a date and she doesn't show or cancels, it might be because someone else offered her a little more and she canceled you to be with him. Happens all the time.
I'm not saying to throw your money around (that can cause you problems in a different direction) but the premise that it screws up the marketplace is laughable.[/QUOTE].
Did you see the news story of Jenni Lee The famous porn star living homeless in Las Vegas. It's true a lot of people just don't have the discipline to save money.
Way up north My friend has an escort friend girl that's been working for years and people think these girls are loaded. After getting to know her Very well one day she revealed she had practically no savings. No security, no other job no nothing.Like a Rolling Stone.
nearly 70 percent of Americans have less than $1,000 stashed away. this is why some girls upcharge foreigner s?
[QUOTE=Blakman;2492684]How do you seek out these girls. Is there a search group? This is the only area I am not versed on. I did get with one. But most girls friend list is private. At least that's what I experience..[/QUOTE]I want to know too. I have only used SA at the moment.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2492447]That's too simplistic a view of the market. The price isn't controlled entirely entirely by people buying pics and videos. But to say that it doesn't have any effect is not very smart. You can have the prices stay the same but still have an upward pressure on prices due to other factors pushing prices down. You can also have prices stay the same but the product shifts underneath. Meaning sure you can find girls for 150 k and 200 k but they're not the same caliber of girls that used to be available at that price.
If you're buying pics and videos off the internet and are happy with it that's great, but it definitely does affect prices.
Those were the days, less gringos in parque lleras but everything overall more expensive. I'm not sure how long 3800 is going to last, but lets enjoy it while it does..[/QUOTE]Sure, there's going to be a effect on the market, but it's far from significant. For every girl I see selling pics and videos, I see a girl who now has an online store. They're selling everything from ice cream to butt plugs. I know one, who I met through another prepago, who was selling videos. She got into the habit of making surprise video calls to me whenever her boyfriend was out of the house. I couldn't even message her because he would get violent if he was around. She would just occasionally message me and ask for $10-$20 for the 5 or 6 video calls she had already made.
Finally she broke up with him and got her own place. She now has a drink cart she runs in the park in Bello at night, plus an online store selling lingerie, plus an online store selling sex toys and she's still selling her pussy and probably videos as well. Once she started asking me for advice on various things, she stopped asking for money, but she still sends little video clips or hits me with a video call.
Maybe her price has gone up. I haven't asked. But I bet I will be in for 200k or less when I hit town.
If you're into that sort of thing, she's one of the few younger chicas I've seen with a full Bush. Big tits, pretty face. If you're in town and interested I will pass along her contact info. Better get her before I get there, because I will have her shave that Bush off.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2492451]A month ago a want to be WebCam girl message my friend. He went to her Virtual room that shee was just starting out and she had a huge sign saying it was Her birthday and was asking viewers for money and gifts. Her birthday. Suuure. A month later she message my friend again she Explained at the beginning of the month she didn't have Internet so she stayed Somewhere That provided her with Internet and now she owed the tenant rent money. Of course she made nothing from her WebCam photos nor videos. Not even enough to pay thee rent. She kept telling myFriend that she was going to resort to escorting to pay her rent and Internet bill.
SoJudging by this story I suppose practically all web cam girls are broke and just like this online YouTube video business only a very few percentage of performers are actually making excessive amounts of money and then the next percentage is living below the poverty line and after that practically nobody makes anything. This web cam stuff is just the side hustle at least for most girls. If theey get lucky maybe they make some beer money.
Concerning the other post talking about leftover food at restaurants. I never really understood that because I always take all my leftover food in the restaurant home and Eat it later the same day or the following day. I just can't understand why anybody would leave food on the plate. Maybe to help out the homeboys opening the bags at the end of the day?[/QUOTE]That's a fairly small sample size to draw conclusions from. I remember meeting a guy 30 years ago, he had just signed up to play minor league baseball (brother of a friend's wife). 6 months later he was asking his brother-in-law to help get him a job as a carpenter. Therefore nobody ever makes money playing professional baseball.
Just like most things, most webcam models fail. They fail because there are a bunch of guys who think they can put a girl on webcam and she'll make lots of money for them. It takes 6 to 8 weeks of 40 hour weeks before a model starts making any money. I can't guess at the number of women I've told this to. Every one, after 3 days wants to quit.
If they stick it out for 8 weeks, 75% will eventually be earning at least a middle class income working 30 hours weekly or less.
I was just chatting with my old roommate yesterday. She's been on webcam for 4 years. She now lives in a first world country, is working on her second advanced degree and is planning on buying herself an apartment back in Colombia next year. She will be paying cash. She travels when and where she wants, has a lot of money saved and is easily making a 6 figure US income.
I know of a few hookers who have been successful on webcam, but most lack the work ethic. I also know a few who were making a good living on webcam who gave it up and went back to hooking.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2492491]You think you are so smart Mr. E but you do not even get the concept of investing in women. You think spending money on women is purely a cost, and the reality is that I am getting way better than you and for waaaay cheaper. The funny part is I think there is a part of you that knows it too.[/QUOTE]There's no need to cover all the rest. Here's my question for you and everyone else:
How is what you are getting better than what anyone else is getting?
This applies to anything in life, not just pussy. You can be eating at a 3 star Michelin restaurant, a meal in which the chef outdid himself. I could be sitting at home eating ribs cooked by my brother, who thinks Michelin makes tires. Which one of us enjoyed our experience more?
Read the forum. You have guys talking about how great their experiences were, with all different types of girls in different types of situations. Which one is best? Guys are staying at all types of places, from $15 a night to $500 a night and beyond. Guys are riding around in limos and guys are riding the metro. How do you compare your experience to another's experience?
The honest answer is, you can't. I can't. Nobody can.
The experiences you are having are your experiences. They are not better than anyone else's experiences. The girls you are fucking are the girls you are fucking. They are not better than the girls anyone else is fucking.
The food you're eating, bed you sleep in, toilet paper you use can't be compared to how they make anyone else's ass feel.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2492551]I know you will not believe this, but trust me it is 100% true.
Earlier today I was talking with a girl, a university student from Medellin spending 1 year of study in my country (no, I do not fuck, I have my reputation and I pretend to be totally uninterested to girls from Medellin).
So we had a conversation starting with "how is situation in Medellin now?", then "are there tourists?", etc. She said that the President decided to reopen the country to tourists in spite of the terrible COVID situation, and people from USA are now coming, etc.
So I could not refrain to ask
- "Wow! Many gringos are used to go to Medellin? I remember I was seeing many around the city"
and she
. "Siii... Todos en Lleras..!".
I am a nasty guy, so I insisted "And also in Centro? How do you spot them??"
- [i]"Siiii... muchos... se veen muchos caminando, todos estan con pantalones cortos!"[/i]
When I heard this I wanted to rush to the computer. I could not wait longer to write this here.[/QUOTE]I've seen younger Colombian guys wearing shorts. Not often. But someone 45 or older? Very rare, except for gringos.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2492619]Don't take offense. He just gets overly dramatic about anything he can. Its just his style. The best thing about the board is that you can see how other people monger and do their thing. Whether or not you follow their lead is up to you.[/QUOTE]Not overly dramatic, it's a simple tool of logic. You apply the same premise to relatable situations in order to illustrate the fallacy.
The original fallacy was that paying for something, when something similar is free indicates a person has almost no self-esteem.
On the surface, most people should recognize how silly that is. However, this is ISG and for some reason there are a lot of members who can't manage basic math, let alone understand semantics.
Which means it's necessary to go to extremes to illustrate a point here.
Whether or not you pay for something, or how much you pay is no indication of your self-esteem.
Blakman spends much less than Slapshot. Slapshot spends much less than SJobs. Who has the highest self-esteem?
Last year in Medellin, I stayed in a great 3 bedroom apartment, 10 days, for free. What does that tell you about my self-esteem? A month ago I sent a girl $20 for 3 minutes of badly lit video shot with a cheap phone. 5 minute ago A much better looking girl sent me 3 minutes of video, with excellent lighting, shot with her iPhone X, completely free. Did my self-esteem change?
If the logic confuses you, your local university offers courses.
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2492079]Nov 2018 I went to Moscow for my bday, I had never tried SA before, well Moscow is a very tough town to monger, so I thought I would try SA within 1-2 hours a few girls including an African sent me messages.
I asked how much most said either $1500 or $2000 for 2 hrs, I laughed and responded OK, 2000 or 1500 rubles, they immediately blocked me, 2 or 3 hrs later I was blocked from SA.
Someone must of reported me, and SA kicked me off and gave me a refund.[/QUOTE]I always have this image that Russian cam girls are sex slaves to the Russian Mafia. When a cam model she says she is from Moscow or the Ukraine (whether or not she is telling the truth, who knows) I always get the feeling there is big, burly, Russian Mafia guy in the Room hovering nearby, ready to hit her with a rubber hose, even typing the answers for her. When her hands don't move near a keyboard but there are replies on the screen, someone is typing, jaja. Could be my mind playing tricks because I axed a Russian girl one time who was in the Room with her and she flashed the camera around the entire room, and she was alone, jajaja.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2492622]Too many facebook chicas in need of money at the moment. I don't have enough time for them. I mostly ignore them. Had one over here yesterday. Young 22 year old paisa in need of some cash. Gave her 100 k + 20 k taxi.[/QUOTE]I just got a girl that accepts 350 k cop for overnight. Is that a good deal?
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2492734]I've seen younger Colombian guys wearing shorts. Not often. But someone 45 or older? Very rare, except for gringos.[/QUOTE]I love how far down the rabbit hole we have all gone regarding shorts.
I'm going to buy a new pair of shorts, specially to wear for my trip to MDE in a couple months. I will wear them the entire trip, except when going to nightclubs (as they will likely require pants for admittance).
[QUOTE=Forever18;2492744]I just got a girl that accepts 350 k cop for overnight. Is that a good deal?[/QUOTE]For you? No, not at all. I suggest a short-time visit (1-2 hours for 150 k-200 k) first to see how she is. If she's good and you get along, then do an overnight. That way if she's lousy, you limit your losses in both time and money.
If you haven't been with this chica before, there's a roughly 50% chance that she looks at her phone at 1 or 2 AM and says there's an emergency and that she has to leave. Which makes it a fantastic deal for her.
I agree that it is better to try her out first. That said, I'm not a big TLN guy. I like my sleep. And when I do TLN, I do it with my chicas who are not being paid. If you have the ability to fuck multiple times during the night, then this may make sense for you. Bang her before you go to sleep, during the night, and first thing in the morning. But be clear she's up for that. And that she knows you might wake her up in the middle of the night for sex. Some girls think TLN is once before bed and once in the morning.
[QUOTE=Combo;2492765]For you? No, not at all. I suggest a short-time visit (1-2 hours for 150 k-200 k) first to see how she is. If she's good and you get along, then do an overnight. That way if she's lousy, you limit your losses in both time and money.
If you haven't been with this chica before, there's a roughly 50% chance that she looks at her phone at 1 or 2 AM and says there's an emergency and that she has to leave. Which makes it a fantastic deal for her.[/QUOTE]
- From life experience I think it's true to say most professional athletes will fail. Just like people in the music industry say you can be a great musician and they have made great music but they never received monetary compensation.
-So sure dream big, go play sports, try to make a record, but also focus on the jobs that you can take in that industry that can sustain your lifetime for example can you be a coach and assistant can you get involved in the business of sport?
The 1st lesson in business is 90% of all startups fail. Learn this fact in a book or university. Therefore it could be fair to say without researching that perhaps only 10% of WebCam girls will make a meaningful income, and it's probably even less because that is usually how life is.
So to say WebCam girls will make Middle-class income buy houses and pay for university sound Unlikely. Some advice for a WebCam girl would be find the a profession with opportunities for growth where you can work and grind it out for lifetime. And then 3 nights a week try to get the web cam thing going, but you should know that statistically speaking you probably won't make more than a little bit for beer money.
[QUOTE=Forever18;2492744]I just got a girl that accepts 350 k cop for overnight. Is that a good deal?[/QUOTE]Take the advice of the other members of the board. Do not take a girl you've never met for TLN. Whether 350 k is a good deal, depends on you and the girl. Do you like spending tiime with her? Is she really good looking?
Theres a lot of things that can go wrong if you've never met the girl before. You don't know her or what she's like. Even with pictures, you don't know if she's put on some weight since the pictures or she wears tons of makeup. Maybe she's really bitchy. Or your personalities clash, theres just too much chance to plop down the extra money for TLN for a first meet. Tell you what. Invite her over for a couple of hours at say 150 k. And have session and if you guys hit it off, tell her to stay for the rest of the night for an additional 150 k or whatever numbers make sense for you. Easier to extend a session than it is to cut a session short. If you cut you're TLN session short just because you aren't feeling it, she's still going to expect the 350 k.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2492718]Sure, there's going to be a effect on the market, but it's far from significant. For every girl I see selling pics and videos, I see a girl who now has an online store. They're selling everything from ice cream to butt plugs. I know one, who I met through another prepago, who was selling videos. She got into the habit of making surprise video calls to me whenever her boyfriend was out of the house. I couldn't even message her because he would get violent if he was around. She would just occasionally message me and ask for $10-$20 for the 5 or 6 video calls she had already made.
Finally she broke up with him and got her own place. She now has a drink cart she runs in the park in Bello at night, plus an online store selling lingerie, plus an online store selling sex toys and she's still selling her pussy and probably videos as well. Once she started asking me for advice on various things, she stopped asking for money, but she still sends little video clips or hits me with a video call.
Maybe her price has gone up. I haven't asked. But I bet I will be in for 200k or less when I hit town.
If you're into that sort of thing, she's one of the few younger chicas I've seen with a full Bush. Big tits, pretty face. If you're in town and interested I will pass along her contact info. Better get her before I get there, because I will have her shave that Bush off.[/QUOTE]Thats the one thing I'm NOT into. Hairy bushes. I prefer my girls hairless. I'm used to asian chicas with smooth skin and much less hair than their colombian counterparts. In one of my other posts I mentioned there was one chica in santa fe I tried to session with and the hair on her lower back completely ruined doggie style as well as the whole experience for me. Once of the few sessions I couldn't finish in.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2492773]Take the advice of the other members of the board. Do not take a girl you've never met for TLN. Whether 350 k is a good deal, depends on you and the girl. Do you like spending tiime with her? Is she really good looking?
Theres a lot of things that can go wrong if you've never met the girl before. You don't know her or what she's like. Even with pictures, you don't know if she's put on some weight since the pictures or she wears tons of makeup. Maybe she's really bitchy. Or your personalities clash, theres just too much chance to plop down the extra money for TLN for a first meet. Tell you what. Invite her over for a couple of hours at say 150 k. And have session and if you guys hit it off, tell her to stay for the rest of the night for an additional 150 k or whatever numbers make sense for you. Easier to extend a session than it is to cut a session short. If you cut you're TLN session short just because you aren't feeling it, she's still going to expect the 350 k.[/QUOTE]Great tip, I was never a fan with Todo Noche, even if I liked the girl. Jaja not because of the money either. I like to sleep alone, fart if I want and SSS in the morning when I'm ready. When I first got into this hobby years ago A wise old monger once told me, "you pay them to leave" good advice.
[QUOTE=Forever18;2492744]I just got a girl that accepts 350 k cop for overnight. Is that a good deal?[/QUOTE]Don't do this it sounds dangerous. Only have an overnight with a girl that has a long thread of positive reviews from her clients. After reading her performance reviews you will feel she's an honest hard worker. What if she is a criminal and does something to you while you're sleeping.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2492740]Not overly dramatic, it's a simple tool of logic. You apply the same premise to relatable situations in order to illustrate the fallacy.
The original fallacy was that paying for something, when something similar is free indicates a person has almost no self-esteem.
On the surface, most people should recognize how silly that is. However, this is ISG and for some reason there are a lot of members who can't manage basic math, let alone understand semantics.
Which means it's necessary to go to extremes to illustrate a point here.
Whether or not you pay for something, or how much you pay is no indication of your self-esteem.
Blakman spends much less than Slapshot. Slapshot spends much less than SJobs. Who has the highest self-esteem?.[/QUOTE]I cannot say whom it is that has the highest but I believe it is safe to say we all know whom it is with the lowest, he writes like he is trying to impress strangers on the internets.
Whether or not his exploits are fiction or not I do not know, but people with low self-esteem try very hard to convince themselves and others they really aren't inferior.
I saw many guys in Moscow strip clubs with Armani suits you won't see me buying, yes I would say they have low self esteem.
If I had the money they had you would never see me in Scs throwing money around trying to impress putas and men you will never see again.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2492684]How do you seek out these girls. Is there a search group? This is the only area I am not versed on. I did get with one. But most girls friend list is private. At least that's what I experience.
.[/QUOTE]No there is no group that you need to sign up for. What you need is an IN to the network. Like you said some of the girls have a private friend list but not all. But you don't just look at a girls friends. You can also look at a girls followers. Just keep going around until you find 1 person that has an open friend list. Once you have one person that lives in medellin with an open friend list you're in. It doesn't really have to be a girl. It can also be a guy. Make sure the person is listed as living in medellin. Then you go to his friend list and click "Current City", that gives you all of his friends that also live in medellin. Start adding all the slutty girls that you see in the list, but also keep a lookout for rando guys in the list that have open friend lists that you can come back to after you finish with the current list. Also keep a lookout for girls with open friends list. The important thing is that all these people are all in medellin. Eventually you'll have enough friends in the network that you'll start seeing some people with a decent amount of mutual friends. These are gold. Make sure you check if they have open friend lists. And repeat the same process over and over again until you have a decent amount of medellin chica friends. Eventually you can stop mining friend lists and just work through the people that facebook suggests you add.
One thing to keep in mind, you'll probably have a better rate of acceptance if you actually have a facebook profile with stuff in it. Pictures. Posts. Etc. I hate friend requests from people with rando images as their profile pics who haven't posted anything ever.
Good luck and have fun. Never give up! Never surrender!
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2492622]Too many facebook chicas in need of money at the moment. I don't have enough time for them. I mostly ignore them. Had one over here yesterday. Young 22 year old paisa in need of some cash. Gave her 100 k + 20 k taxi.[/QUOTE]Just wanted to add, that during negociations this same chica asked me if I would pay for her taxi. I asked where do you live and how much it would be. She told me she lived in Castilla and said it would be 20 k each way. I looked up Castilla in google maps and then sent her a screen shot of a Cabify quote saying it would be less than 9 k for a ride to castilla. I said I would give her 20 k taxi total. She said "Okay, when should I come over?
Keep in mind also that after the session finished I did indeed give her 20 k and also walked her to the metro. This taxi bullshit is just another way to get money out of you. LOL. Generally she was pretty cool and it was a good session. So I wasn't upset or anything. I found it funny more than anything.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2492740]Not overly dramatic, it's a simple tool of logic. You apply the same premise to relatable situations in order to illustrate the fallacy.
The original fallacy was that paying for something, when something similar is free indicates a person has almost no self-esteem.
On the surface, most people should recognize how silly that is. However, this is ISG and for some reason there are a lot of members who can't manage basic math, let alone understand semantics.
Which means it's necessary to go to extremes to illustrate a point here.
Whether or not you pay for something, or how much you pay is no indication of your self-esteem.
Blakman spends much less than Slapshot. Slapshot spends much less than SJobs. Who has the highest self-esteem?.[/QUOTE]Your attempts at sophistry make me embarrassed for you, the way you buy photo and video, please tell me you aren't also one of those people that paid for an online from China?
[QUOTE=Forever18;2492744]I just got a girl that accepts 350 k cop for overnight. Is that a good deal?[/QUOTE]Is it a good deal, where did you find this girl. Irrespective of whether you have any history with this girl, if she comes off the streets of El Centro then it's not a good deal.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2492781]Don't do this it sounds dangerous. Only have an overnight with a girl that has a long thread of positive reviews from her clients. After reading her performance reviews you will feel she's an honest hard worker. What if she is a criminal and does something to you while you're sleeping.[/QUOTE]What threads are you referring that has reviews of girls performance in Medellin, this is Colombia, and things are different here than you may be used to in other Countries.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2492773]Take the advice of the other members of the board. Do not take a girl you've never met for TLN. Whether 350 k is a good deal, depends on you and the girl. Do you like spending tiime with her? Is she really good looking?
Theres a lot of things that can go wrong if you've never met the girl before. You don't know her or what she's like. Even with pictures, you don't know if she's put on some weight since the pictures or she wears tons of makeup. Maybe she's really bitchy. Or your personalities clash, theres just too much chance to plop down the extra money for TLN for a first meet. Tell you what. Invite her over for a couple of hours at say 150 k. And have session and if you guys hit it off, tell her to stay for the rest of the night for an additional 150 k or whatever numbers make sense for you. Easier to extend a session than it is to cut a session short. If you cut you're TLN session short just because you aren't feeling it, she's still going to expect the 350 k.[/QUOTE]Not to mention, what if her pussy stinks? This happens now and then, no matter how beautiful or ugly the chica may be. Kazeu said it perfectly "Easier to extend a session that it is to cut a session short. ".
Hello everyone,
Has anyone flown back to NYC from ME recently?
If so, have you been required to quarantine?
When I came back from Europe a month ago, that took my cell number and kept calling me from tracing corps, but I didn't answer, they just left messages that I should quarantine.
Peace out.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2492733]There's no need to cover all the rest. Here's my question for you and everyone else:
How is what you are getting better than what anyone else is getting?
This applies to anything in life, not just pussy. You can be eating at a 3 star Michelin restaurant, a meal in which the chef outdid himself. I could be sitting at home eating ribs cooked by my brother, who thinks Michelin makes tires. Which one of us enjoyed our experience more?
Read the forum. You have guys talking about how great their experiences were, with all different types of girls in different types of situations. Which one is best? Guys are staying at all types of places, from $15 a night to $500 a night and beyond. Guys are riding around in limos and guys are riding the metro. How do you compare your experience to another's experience?
The honest answer is, you can't. I can't. Nobody can.
The experiences you are having are your experiences. They are not better than anyone else's experiences. The girls you are fucking are the girls you are fucking. They are not better than the girls anyone else is fucking.
The food you're eating, bed you sleep in, toilet paper you use can't be compared to how they make anyone else's ass feel.[/QUOTE]Certain things are objectively better than others. Charmin ultra soft is better than dollar store single ply. A steak at Morton's is better than Denny's. 15 hours in first class is better than 15 hours in coach. JW Marriott is better than Motel 3. Winter in Hawaii is better than winter in the Gulag in Siberia. Field passes to a football game are better than watching on a 19" black and white tv. Going to prom in a limo is better than going to prom with your date's dad as your driver and chaperone. Fucking a nympho 10 is better than fucking a 0. Fucking a girl is better than getting fucked by a guy (this one may be subjective).
But how happy each person wants to be is up to them. Would you be happier in coach or first class? Probably first class but it's your choice whether to be happy or happier or happiest. It's like the survey you get after eating or staying somewhere. Were you happy with your visit? What could we have done to improve your visit? Your experience could have been better but that doesn't mean you weren't already happy.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2492773]Take the advice of the other members of the board. Do not take a girl you've never met for TLN. Whether 350 k is a good deal, depends on you and the girl. Do you like spending tiime with her? Is she really good looking?
Theres a lot of things that can go wrong if you've never met the girl before. You don't know her or what she's like. Even with pictures, you don't know if she's put on some weight since the pictures or she wears tons of makeup. Maybe she's really bitchy. Or your personalities clash, theres just too much chance to plop down the extra money for TLN for a first meet. Tell you what. Invite her over for a couple of hours at say 150 k. And have session and if you guys hit it off, tell her to stay for the rest of the night for an additional 150 k or whatever numbers make sense for you. Easier to extend a session than it is to cut a session short. If you cut you're TLN session short just because you aren't feeling it, she's still going to expect the 350 k.[/QUOTE]I learned my lessons with TLNs. They are incredibly boring. We fucked / fooled around for two hours. I'm satisfied already. So we just lay around on our phones. I go to sleep and we fuck again in the morning which I am not in to because I like to take my mornings slow. I payed 300 mil for that. Never again. I don't speak spanish so I can't really converse with them and even if I could I don't think the conversations would be that entertaining. I'm even questioning my 2 hours deal because I leche twice in an hour and I just tell them to leave. I think I'm going to go with "150 mil mas taxi por dos leches" from now on.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2492684]How do you seek out these girls. Is there a search group? This is the only area I am not versed on. I did get with one. But most girls friend list is private. At least that's what I experience..[/QUOTE]Go to the General thread search for "Facebook" and look for a post by me. I explain the process fully.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2492704]Did you see the news story of Jenni Lee The famous porn star living homeless in Las Vegas. It's true a lot of people just don't have the discipline to save money.
Way up north My friend has an escort friend girl that's been working for years and people think these girls are loaded. After getting to know her Very well one day she revealed she had practically no savings. No security, no other job no nothing.Like a Rolling Stone.
nearly 70 percent of Americans have less than $1,000 stashed away. this is why some girls upcharge foreigner s?[/QUOTE]It's a lifestyle issue. Get to know some strippers. Even though a decent stripper can pull $3 k per week, most are always broke. As soon as one has a good night she goes out and blows it. Webcam, stripping, hooking, selling videos (RIP), are all instant gratification jobs.
[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2492741]I always have this image that Russian cam girls are sex slaves to the Russian Mafia. When a cam model she says she is from Moscow or the Ukraine (whether or not she is telling the truth, who knows) I always get the feeling there is big, burly, Russian Mafia guy in the Room hovering nearby, ready to hit her with a rubber hose, even typing the answers for her. When her hands don't move near a keyboard but there are replies on the screen, someone is typing, jaja. Could be my mind playing tricks because I axed a Russian girl one time who was in the Room with her and she flashed the camera around the entire room, and she was alone, jajaja.[/QUOTE]The mafia guy is only in the room virtually. He uses a back office program to view and control her computer.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2492772]- From life experience I think it's true to say most professional athletes will fail. Just like people in the music industry say you can be a great musician and they have made great music but they never received monetary compensation.
-So sure dream big, go play sports, try to make a record, but also focus on the jobs that you can take in that industry that can sustain your lifetime for example can you be a coach and assistant can you get involved in the business of sport?
The 1st lesson in business is 90% of all startups fail. Learn this fact in a book or university. Therefore it could be fair to say without researching that perhaps only 10% of WebCam girls will make a meaningful income, and it's probably even less because that is usually how life is.
So to say WebCam girls will make Middle-class income buy houses and pay for university sound Unlikely. Some advice for a WebCam girl would be find the a profession with opportunities for growth where you can work and grind it out for lifetime. And then 3 nights a week try to get the web cam thing going, but you should know that statistically speaking you probably won't make more than a little bit for beer money.[/QUOTE]I understand it seems that way to you, and there is much truth in what you say. However, there are significant differences.
Startup businesses fail by the quarter: 3, 6, 9 or 12 months and they close the doors. In many cases it's because they expected quicker success. If they had planned and budgeted to lose money for 12-18 months, many failures would succeed.
Webcam models tend to walk away within the first 30 days, because they expect immediate success. I can't think of any model who stuck it out for 8 weeks who failed to earn at least $50 per day, which is a comfortable living in Colombia.
I say that webcam models can do these things, because I know several who have. It's what I did for a year in Medellin, worked with webcam models. I don't say this stuff because I have 1 friend who once talked to a webcam model.
One model was renting 3, 3 bedroom apartments in Poblado. One up by El Tesoro, where she lived, 1 just north of Envigado where my roommate and I lived, (rent free) and 1 at Ciudad del Rio, which was used as a studio. Combined rent and utilities over 7 million COP monthly. She paid for this from her income and her share of my roommate's earnings. At the time my roommate was saving at least 4 million COP each month.
Will everyone reach that level? Of course not, but an income of 2-3 million COP is within reach of almost every one who sticks it out.
[QUOTE=Flak3;2492820]Certain things are objectively better than others. Charmin ultra soft is better than dollar store single ply. A steak at Morton's is better than Denny's. 15 hours in first class is better than 15 hours in coach. JW Marriott is better than Motel 3. Winter in Hawaii is better than winter in the Gulag in Siberia. Field passes to a football game are better than watching on a 19" black and white tv. Going to prom in a limo is better than going to prom with your date's dad as your driver and chaperone. Fucking a nympho 10 is better than fucking a 0. Fucking a girl is better than getting fucked by a guy (this one may be subjective).
But how happy each person wants to be is up to them. Would you be happier in coach or first class? Probably first class but it's your choice whether to be happy or happier or happiest. It's like the survey you get after eating or staying somewhere. Were you happy with your visit? What could we have done to improve your visit? Your experience could have been better but that doesn't mean you weren't already happy.[/QUOTE]Only 1 thing you listed is objective, except you introduced a false equivalence. A vacation is objectively better than a prison sentence, but a vacation in Hawaii is not equivalent to a prison sentence in Siberia.
A steak at Morton's isn't better to a vegan. First class isn't better to someone who values price over comfort. The rating of 0 to 10 is subjective. Sex with a Nympho is nor objectively better. Not when, after barebacking her she tells you she barebacked 3 strangers today. And you went down on her.
However, you missed the point. How do you compare subjective experiences between 2 people? Did you enjoy your steak at Morton's more than the vegan enjoyed her favorite meal at her favorite restaurant?
[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2492828]I learned my lessons with TLNs. They are incredibly boring. We fucked / fooled around for two hours. I'm satisfied already. So we just lay around on our phones. I go to sleep and we fuck again in the morning which I am not in to because I like to take my mornings slow. I payed 300 mil for that. Never again. I don't speak spanish so I can't really converse with them and even if I could I don't think the conversations would be that entertaining. I'm even questioning my 2 hours deal because I leche twice in an hour and I just tell them to leave. I think I'm going to go with "150 mil mas taxi por dos leches" from now on.[/QUOTE]Well you learned an important lesson. TLN (Toda la noche) can be fun but can be an ultimately boring encounter. You don't speak Spanish, you don't have a friendship with the girl, what you effectively did was pay for two single sessions with the girl (the evening and the morning) and you got to feel her warm little body in your bed during the night. You certainly aren't out anything. A single session 150 + taxis vs 300 + taxis so you spent an extra 40 bucks at the current exchange rates and you learned that TLN isn't really for you.
I wish all my learning experiences in life had only cost me 40 dollars.
[QUOTE=Forever18;2492744]I just got a girl that accepts 350 k cop for overnight. Is that a good deal?[/QUOTE]Seriously? You're so hot for an overnight that you're going to do it with a girl you don't know and have never met? Good luck.
You might consider the advice from numerous other people in the thread. Never, never arrange a todo la noche with a girl you haven't seen before and don't know.
When you're asleep in the night are you sure she won't go through your things and maybe steal your cash as leave? Or help herself to your cell phone and other things?
The least important consideration is the money. 300, 350, 400, 500 mil you're talking about roughly $55 dollars between the bottom end and the top end. I personally.
Feel my safety, comfort, peace of mind is worth a heck of a lot more than that.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2492792]Just wanted to add, that during negociations this same chica asked me if I would pay for her taxi. I asked where do you live and how much it would be. She told me she lived in Castilla and said it would be 20 k each way. I looked up Castilla in google maps and then sent her a screen shot of a Cabify quote saying it would be less than 9 k for a ride to castilla. I said I would give her 20 k taxi total. She said "Okay, when should I come over?
Keep in mind also that after the session finished I did indeed give her 20 k and also walked her to the metro. This taxi bullshit is just another way to get money out of you. LOL. Generally she was pretty cool and it was a good session. So I wasn't upset or anything. I found it funny more than anything.[/QUOTE]Really? You bust on this girl for trying to get roughly $6 instead of $3 for taxi? Better to pick your wars. If she's trying to con you into 600 K for a session when 200 K is a good day for her, that's one thing but come on man 3 bucks? Jajaj I have a favorite I sneak in, every other trip when my girl was in class. I would give her 20 K for the taxi and one day I followed her down stairs to give her a tube of VS lotion she forgot and I saw her running down the street to catch the bus. To her the 20 k was more valuable to her than the luxury of a taxi. I never said anything and I totally understand where she was coming from. She's a good kid, we have never even talked about how much or how long before or after, she just is happy with what I give her. Usually 200 + 20 for taxi. And she gives 100% every time I see her. My time with her is so hot she could probably get double from a lot of you guys because she's that good. I'll give her a gift from time to time but I don't change our price structure.
[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2492828]I learned my lessons with TLNs. They are incredibly boring. We fucked / fooled around for two hours. I'm satisfied already. So we just lay around on our phones. I go to sleep and we fuck again in the morning which I am not in to because I like to take my mornings slow. I payed 300 mil for that. Never again. I don't speak spanish so I can't really converse with them and even if I could I don't think the conversations would be that entertaining. I'm even questioning my 2 hours deal because I leche twice in an hour and I just tell them to leave. I think I'm going to go with "150 mil mas taxi por dos leches" from now on.[/QUOTE]One of the reasons I went the sugar route is how stupidly expensive vacations and TLN were in the sex prison, but there are really only three reasons to do TLN. For me, the most common one is the environment. Everybody focuses on the women but fucking someone in a crowded, uncomfortable strip club or a gym mat or massage table makes for a far less enjoyable experience. Like you said though, two hours in a hotel is probably equivalent to TLN in most cases.
The second is if you really like the woman's company beyond sex. Holding someone you like all night, spooning with them, seeing them first thing in the morning, the morning BJ can be great, but even if the woman is a working girl not a SB, you probably want to reserve this for a woman you have seen before and like. I get that for most guys Colombia is a rush to fuck as much strange as possible. Though the temptation for new is always great, if you have a great session with one gal, you probably are better off doing a repeat or considering a TLN.
The third reason is this is the most rare but what guys are hoping for, the prostitute nympho where you fuck all night. I can recall only a few times in my life this happening. The first requirement is you. Can you fuck all night? I am not even just talking about from a stamina point of view but from a hardness / lack of sleep point of view. The second requirement is a full fledged nympho that wants to fuck all night, and her mind has to be there as well. It is great when the stars align and this happens, but for me, this has been a once in a decade occurrence and in all the cases, it was not planned.
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2492941]Really? You bust on this girl for trying to get roughly $6 instead of $3 for taxi? Better to pick your wars. If she's trying to con you into 600 K for a session when 200 K is a good day for her, that's one thing but come on man 3 bucks? Jajaj I have a favorite I sneak in, every other trip when my girl was in class. I would give her 20 K for the taxi and one day I followed her down stairs to give her a tube of VS lotion she forgot and I saw her running down the street to catch the bus. To her the 20 k was more valuable to her than the luxury of a taxi. I never said anything and I totally understand where she was coming from. She's a good kid, we have never even talked about how much or how long before or after, she just is happy with what I give her. Usually 200 + 20 for taxi. And she gives 100% every time I see her. My time with her is so hot she could probably get double from a lot of you guys because she's that good. I'll give her a gift from time to time but I don't change our price structure.[/QUOTE]I respect every single word you said. I have my favorite that is incredible. Drop dead gorgeous, if not for some hideous tattoos she could easily be a top end model, and she is a hellcat in bed. I pay her above the normal rate but unlike comments from others here, she goes way overboard to make sure I have the time of my life.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2492951]If you really don't care that much about 3 dollars vs 6 dollars, I got a venmo account for you to send me 6 dollars for all of my girls taxis.[/QUOTE]Why is it always ONLY $3 that you should give away but never ONLY $3 that the girl should forgo? Of the hundreds of chicks that I have talked down on price I have never experienced one of them to be sad or to give bad service because of it. And I have never seen 1 report on this phenomenon either. I have only seen people warn of it. Fair exchange is never a robbery, so why do some take it as the girl being robbed when she agreed to a fair exchange less than her original asking price?
I take back what I said about Davivienda if you are using a schwab card. I made 3 attempts to withdraw cash using a Schwab ATM card from 2 separate Davivienda ATM machines. I never recieved any cash from any of these attempts. 1 attempt was blocked by Schwab but the other 2 withdrawal attempts reported "Transaccion con problemas. Intente luego. " and no cash was dispensed. I called schwab today to get my card sorted out and they informed me that the 2 transactions that were not blocked by them actually went through and cash was removed from my account even though I did not receive any cash. So now they are helping me dispute the transactions. There is something definitely wrong with the interaction between schwab and Davivienda at the moment. I recommend that you do not use these ATM's with Schwab cards. Also don't forget to keep your ATM receipts!
I did successfully use their atm with a different card.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2492992]I take back what I said about Davivienda if you are using a schwab card. I made 3 attempts to withdraw cash using a Schwab ATM card from 2 separate Davivienda ATM machines. I never recieved any cash from any of these attempts. 1 attempt was blocked by Schwab but the other 2 withdrawal attempts reported "Transaccion con problemas. Intente luego. " and no cash was dispensed. I called schwab today to get my card sorted out and they informed me that the 2 transactions that were not blocked by them actually went through and cash was removed from my account even though I did not receive any cash. So now they are helping me dispute the transactions. There is something definitely wrong with the interaction between schwab and Davivienda at the moment. I recommend that you do not use these ATM's with Schwab cards. Also don't forget to keep your ATM receipts!
I did successfully use their atm with a different card.[/QUOTE]Yeah I tired davienda today for 300 mil and it said problem with the transaction. I hope it doesn't go through, I hate the dispute hassle. Happened twice with banco de cajo too. Bancolombia is my favorite right now. 600 mil and the 18 mil transaction fee doesn't matter because shwab reimburses those.
On the topic of todo la noche vs todo la leche, I am firmly in the strongly satisfying 1-2 HR session camp. Its frankly better for all concerned. If you are clear in your head this is a puta and you are not mixing matters it makes sense. Safety, extortion, convenience etc are all in your favor with with Cita situation. If I go with TLN at all, it would be after multiple sessions, and if I were doing that, I probably rather do that on a short trip somewhere.
But I am sure there are other views and that is cool too.
[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2493004]On the topic of todo la noche vs todo la leche, I am firmly in the strongly satisfying 1-2 HR session camp. Its frankly better for all concerned. If you are clear in your head this is a puta and you are not mixing matters it makes sense. Safety, extortion, convenience etc are all in your favor with with Cita situation. If I go with TLN at all, it would be after multiple sessions, and if I were doing that, I probably rather do that on a short trip somewhere.
But I am sure there are other views and that is cool too.[/QUOTE]I like TLN's with Chica's I have some history with, and of course they have to be all in. This means no rules nor quotas or schedules. So when I wake up with morning wood at 6 AM there's no pushback. For me, blowing a load after a good nights sleep seems to be more satisfying than any other time of day for me personally.
Maybe another way of looking at this is imagine when your horny and want to blow a load, instead of having to go on the hunt say in El Centro, go to a casa, or schedule a Cita with a Fayboo or Tinder Chica you don't have to go far nor wait. I know other guys can relate to this, where others just want Ratos.
It's all a matter of how you roll and there's no right or wrong as everyone is so different.
Well I'm about 13 girls deep so far this trip all from Facebook and I've noticed a trend. The girls with the hotter more touched up pictures tend to be uglier. I just had a girl named Maria Camila Gonzalez and she was pretty hot in her pictures, but when she came I saw she was caked in make up, body wasnt nearly as nice. Saggy tits, smelly vagina. Did I still fill her up with my leche? Sure but it wasnt nearly as enjoyable as with other girls. In comparison girls who had normal, natural pictures that didn't paint paint them as some instagram models were much more beautiful. Has happened to me twice now. I think I might avoid the instagram girls.
Amen. These girls have a lot of competition! And a lot to model after! I wonder if your Maria Camila Gonzalez is the same as the one I had. Probably not LOL. But based on your description. Could be. I actually told her to meet me in Llares park one night at a bar during Halloween. I was pulled left and right by so many to choose from. When she went to the bar I wasn't there more than 20 minutes before I opted out. Her pictures are good bait but in person she was nothing to look at with so many other chicas everywhere. Now if I see a chica online I like, I question my whole decision. She still hates me to this day as I've seen her out Bunches of times after. We lock eyes and then look away. She's not horrendous but definitely a let down. I paid for our drinks and said I'll contact you after I leave the bars tonight. She must have called 20 times starting at 2 am Through 4 am. Good thing I met her out first because I pulled a solid 9 in my book that night. My guy actually saw her on FB and invited her over. Same stinky box story. Too many coincidences.
[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2493036]Well I'm about 13 girls deep so far this trip all from Facebook and I've noticed a trend. The girls with the hotter more touched up pictures tend to be uglier. I just had a girl named Maria Camila Gonzalez and she was pretty hot in her pictures, but when she came I saw she was caked in make up, body wasnt nearly as nice. Saggy tits, smelly vagina. Did I still fill her up with my leche? Sure but it wasnt nearly as enjoyable as with other girls. In comparison girls who had normal, natural pictures that didn't paint paint them as some instagram models were much more beautiful. Has happened to me twice now. I think I might avoid the instagram girls.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2493036]Well I'm about 13 girls deep so far this trip all from Facebook and I've noticed a trend. The girls with the hotter more touched up pictures tend to be uglier. I just had a girl named Maria Camila Gonzalez and she was pretty hot in her pictures, but when she came I saw she was caked in make up, body wasnt nearly as nice. Saggy tits, smelly vagina. Did I still fill her up with my leche? Sure but it wasnt nearly as enjoyable as with other girls. In comparison girls who had normal, natural pictures that didn't paint paint them as some instagram models were much more beautiful. Has happened to me twice now. I think I might avoid the instagram girls.[/QUOTE]Lots of fb girls are like this. There really isn't a fb girl that's higher than an 8 imo.
[QUOTE=Combo;2492765]For you? No, not at all. I suggest a short-time visit (1-2 hours for 150 k-200 k) first to see how she is. If she's good and you get along, then do an overnight. That way if she's lousy, you limit your losses in both time and money.
If you haven't been with this chica before, there's a roughly 50% chance that she looks at her phone at 1 or 2 AM and says there's an emergency and that she has to leave. Which makes it a fantastic deal for her.[/QUOTE]One of my mongering rules across 6 continents is always start with "short time" with a new girl. Never say never, but never commit to overnight or "long time" with a new girl up front until you've spent at least a couple of hours with her. I can't stand most new girls more than an hour or two. If she knocks your socks off, go from one hour, to two hours, then in Colombia after two hours usually comes overnight. Negotiate for all night after two hours and then kick her ass out the door early if you want. Always maintain control and set boundaries. The point is, after two hours you will be able to get all night for the same price she would charge you for the additional hour (s) so don't let her bleed you by the hour. Of course, pay at the end, in case she tries to run out on you.
Ninety percent of the time I get the overnight extension for 100 COP more (100.000) than what I paid up to that point. By the time you have paid the "going rate" for two hours, your girl has earned a week's average salary.
I still tip using my "motivation" rule (see my prior post), and throw in 20 for cab fare. If you want them to stay overnight after two hours, and they won't, don't sweat it or act desperate. Bring her back for the overnight a few days later or if she don't come back, she is probably doing you a favor. Don't ever get upset about not getting a certain girl. If you get upset by that shite, it means you don't have your head on straight for this kind of mongering. There are so many girls to choose from. Move on to the next and forget about the ones that fall short. Also, you will be amazed at the number of chicas who will circle back around for more on their own. Even if you fucked her face against the headboard so hard that her hips came off the bed while her legs were flailing in the air, and she left with tears in her eyes saying she will never see you again, jeje, she will be back for more.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2493055]Now sangnyc, guys who penny pinch about a few dollars are never bitter towards the girls. At least I can speak for myself. I understand I am offering way less so a rejection is expected. My thought process is I am the prize not you. If you want me you accept what I offer. Now I give it to you that sometimes a penny pincher can over do it at times and miss out. But again the attitude I am not paying what is over your worth. Here is the most humorous part. The free spenders similar to elvis, sjobs. Firmly assume that the wealth they proclaim can control these girls and will be at there beckoning. It is these guys that become bitter and call these girls putas. When they discover the wealth meant nothing to these girls as they still rather be with there non income colombian novios LOL.
[/QUOTE]Sangnyc21 may not be talking about you, then you write something that fit his description, using two that some think are fictional characters. They don't give me that kind of impression you described, at least not yet. I remember Elvis also think like you that he is the prize.
Sometimes mongers pay more because they value their own time more so they are paying for their own time, not the girl's time. There is nothing wrong with willing to miss out like yourself and there is nothing wrong for mongers who have the means to overpay something they want.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2492800]What threads are you referring that has reviews of girls performance in Medellin, this is Colombia, and things are different here than you may be used to in other Countries.[/QUOTE]For reviews of the girls in Colombia try the local forum DonColombia With Google translate or get recommendations from friends. In other countries, I definitely would feel uncomfortable with the girl sleeping over unless she had positive reviews. Anybody else know any other COP local forums?
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2493032]You ever notice its the same bitter people that insult others when they over pay or spend too much?
They don't offer a helpful message saying you should pay a certain amount but its always they're "fools" or "dumb".
People who travel on a budget can still be generous but what's mind boggling is some of you are truly bitter towards women in general and its pretty obvious.
I'm not going to call guys out but its hilarious some of you travel the world to get pussy and act like its an accomplishment that you paid less than others.
The fact that some of you guys haggle over literally pennies and nickels is disturbing.
They need the $$ more than you if you're willing to spend it on their bodies.
And some guys say they talk to girls and make fun of guys who overpay and the girls call them fools?
I guarantee you that girl would rather be with the fool than with your broke ass. This is all about money to them nothing more nothing less.
Wake up guys! We all have different budgets and different levels of income. Stop being so fuckin bitter and lets just use this board for info.[/QUOTE]The chicas are quite hostile with each other if they knew one accepted a lower rate, the FB ones often hold to their cartel rate. So for those arguing about info sharing and being generous, I think you are off base. Two board members who guide you well are Pollonegro in centro, and JJbee for the in apartment, Fb scene etc. I feel like many of the FB chicas have been to the mansion and get their rate from there. The mansion never seems to have issues finding willing chicas to hang around for those rates so clearly the demand supply dynamics are OK at that price point. Beyond that plenty subjectivity on either side.
One more point, those living or staying there long term definitely have a leg up. Especially if they also treat the Chicas well. Think about it, From her point of view, would a 250 k one and done dude serve her needs better on a risk adjusted total value basis, or one that sessions with her 120 k every week for 8-12 weeks? If you don't think that matters to them you are not analyzing the situation well. Heck I know of one that goes to a guys place in envigado, cleans his apartment for a couple hours, makes him a lunch and then fucks him all for 120mil per visit. With an arrangement like that, who needs a wife 😂. I was surprised when she told me she had been doing that for last couple years.
Girls will often come by later for less than the original agreed price if you explain it nicely, once they know and trust you. A bonus if they like fucking you. I have noticed zero correlation between price and performance, arguably to an extent it has been in reverse.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2493065]For reviews of the girls in Colombia try the local forum DonColombia With Google translate or get recommendations from friends. In other countries, I definitely would feel uncomfortable with the girl sleeping over unless she had positive reviews. Anybody else know any other COP local forums?[/QUOTE]Well I visited the DonColombia website per your advice, and it was an eye opener with girls advertising prices for one hour as low as 40 K and others offering anal for 80 K (not my cup of tea). The site is almost like Craigslist's used to be in the USA. Of course I couldn't get any of the pages translated by Google but understand enough Spanish that I could navigate it and use it if I elected to. This is a very viable option for those with solid Spanish skills, and illustrates how others could be paying like the locals versus other platforms used by foreigners. As far as sleep overs, regardless of the reviews on a girl, I would never do it unless I had some previous experience with her as others have mentioned.
[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2493074]The chicas are quite hostile with each other if they knew one accepted a lower rate, the FB ones often hold to their cartel rate. So for those arguing about info sharing and being generous, I think you are off base. Two board members who guide you well are Pollonegro in centro, and JJbee for the in apartment, Fb scene etc. I feel like many of the FB chicas have been to the mansion and get their rate from there. The mansion never seems to have issues finding willing chicas to hang around for those rates so clearly the demand supply dynamics are OK at that price point. Beyond that plenty subjectivity on either side.
One more point, those living or staying there long term definitely have a leg up. Especially if they also treat the Chicas well. Think about it, From her point of view, would a 250 k one and done dude serve her needs better on a risk adjusted total value basis, or one that sessions with her 120 k every week for 8-12 weeks? If you don't think that matters to them you are not analyzing the situation well. Heck I know of one that goes to a guys place in envigado, cleans his apartment for a couple hours, makes him a lunch and then fucks him all for 120mil per visit. With an arrangement like that, who needs a wife 😂. I was surprised when she told me she had been doing that for last couple years.
Girls will often come by later for less than the original agreed price if you explain it nicely, once they know and trust you. A bonus if they like fucking you. I have noticed zero correlation between price and performance, arguably to an extent it has been in reverse.[/QUOTE]But you're talking about a steady regular arrangement which is a different ball game.
Obviously the guaranteed money and less risk factor takes into play.
But how often do we see people insulting each other cause we go to places like Gustos or La Islas and pay top dollar to have a great night out. A lot of times guys are partying and too fucked up to even get it up but they'll pay 200-300 usd just to try LOL.
But it's their choice to do so. I think there's too much BS about whose better who got the better deal and bitterness when guys overpay for whatever reason.
I think the majority of the members on this board are here to gather info and tbh some people just love to trash others posts for the above mentioned reasons.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2493055]Now sangnyc, guys who penny pinch about a few dollars are never bitter towards the girls. At least I can speak for myself. I understand I am offering way less so a rejection is expected. My thought process is I am the prize not you. If you want me you accept what I offer. Now I give it to you that sometimes a penny pincher can over do it at times and miss out. But again the attitude I am not paying what is over your worth. Here is the most humorous part. The free spenders similar to elvis, sjobs. Firmly assume that the wealth they proclaim can control these girls and will be at there beckoning. It is these guys that become bitter and call these girls putas. When they discover the wealth meant nothing to these girls as they still rather be with there non income colombian novios LOL.
.[/QUOTE]If these girls are prepagos the $$$ is the only thing that matters.
You're right they are going to go back to their broke Colombian novios in their ghetto barrios.
I'm personally not looking to make an emotional connection with these girls. I'm only interested in doing dirty things to them.
And every once in a while I see a girl I must have I'll pay whatever it takes as long as she agrees to my terms.
The next day I wake up I don't feel regret or the need for anything more.
We are mongering here, fucking for sport. Not looking for love.
[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2493074]
One more point, those living or staying there long term definitely have a leg up. Especially if they also treat the Chicas well. Think about it, From her point of view, would a 250 k one and done dude serve her needs better on a risk adjusted total value basis, or one that sessions with her 120 k every week for 8-12 weeks? If you don't think that matters to them you are not analyzing the situation well. Heck I know of one that goes to a guys place in envigado, cleans his apartment for a couple hours, makes him a lunch and then fucks him all for 120mil per visit. With an arrangement like that, who needs a wife 😂. I was surprised when she told me she had been doing that for last couple years.
Girls will often come by later for less than the original agreed price if you explain it nicely, once they know and trust you. A bonus if they like fucking you. I have noticed zero correlation between price and performance, arguably to an extent it has been in reverse.[/QUOTE]Experience mongers definitively pay less, not just for mongers who stay longer but I think you are ignoring an important point. When everything is the same, how many Chicas will pick 120 over 250? I also don't think most Chicas thinks rationally or know how to manage money. Lower pay per meet also don't mean lower income.
Well there's something that has been confirmed by several members. Repeat customers that keep going back to the same girl usually get the best prices. Some people even call them grandfather rates. It's kind of like buying in bulk or An employee generating business for a company. It also helps to have a business friendship and emotional connection to the girl. But as always it remains a client provider relationship.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2493095]Well there's something that has been confirmed by several members. Repeat customers that keep going back to the same girl usually get the best prices. Some people even call them grandfather rates. It's kind of like buying in bulk or An employee generating business for a company. It also helps to have a business friendship and emotional connection to the girl. But as always it remains a client provider relationship.[/QUOTE]I agree 100%. You definitely have an advantage if you can stay for longer periods of time. It lets you build trust with the girls and that leads not only to better sessions but better deals on those sessions.
I would love to be able to take a month or two away form work and get an apartment in Medellin. Sadly that's not possible for me at this time so I can only go for a week at a time, that's why I don't mind paying a little more to get the girls I want. Money I have, its time that I wish I had more of.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2493090]If these girls are prepagos the $$$ is the only thing that matters.[/QUOTE]They are not prepagos. They are sugar babies. $$$ does not matter to them. You only have to show it to get their attention.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2493095]Well there's something that has been confirmed by several members. Repeat customers that keep going back to the same girl usually get the best prices. Some people even call them grandfather rates. It's kind of like buying in bulk or An employee generating business for a company. It also helps to have a business friendship and emotional connection to the girl. But as always it remains a client provider relationship.[/QUOTE]Frank,
I love your enthusiasm for this thread. However, you must visit Colombia one day sir.
OK guys,
This is my first contribution to the forum. I have been in Medellin for a few days, since Sunday, we may say.
So far I have been with a few girls. Today I went to Plaza Botero at about 6 PM. I spoke with one Colombian girl, very attractive, model figure, and then another young black girl passed by and I decided to bring them both home. They accepted 150 k COP for two hours 75+75, and they agreed to kiss. One she ate my ass, when I was fucking the other. But, when I have seen them naked, well, what a huge disappointment. Both have kids. One is 18 and she has a 2 years old kid. Her belly was the belly of an old woman, I mean old, really old. And the other one, the tits were like drained. Fuckin hell, why people do still do children in 2020? We are 7 billions, there is no fuckin need to make children! Anyway, these girls don't even have hot water. When they showered, the black girl was so happy cause the hot water.
I mean, these girls could ask 150 on prepagos, even 200, if just they were ok, but they are not anymore. How the background, the environment, and some stupid choice can turn your life in a shit.
Anyway, I let them go after the first one, because the saggy tits of the white one, and the belly of the morena, were a huge turn off.
The other night, after midnight, I went to visit a place called la Mayorista. Turn out I got busted by the police, who checked if I had drugs. They stopped the taxi, most likely because I was sitting in the front seat, since I was speaking with the driver about the place. When the police left us, we looked around a couple of times, then I contracted the price with a white 30 years old girl with fake and huge tits. I let the driver go and I spent 30 minutes with the girl. She was ok, but that's not what I'm looking for, really.
I had few other girls, but only two are worth a mention. Two prepagos. The first one is a black Venezuelan girl. Great ass, all natural, amazing tits, small but with fantastic nipples. Sex was great. I think I paid 150 to my place, but I'm not sure, I don't remember. The second one instead asked me 250, I think I gave her 230 or something like that. She proposed me to be my novia for 10 days, but she asked 800 k / day, which I think is negotiable, maybe she would accept 600. But then I will have to pay dinner, lunch, it doesn't look a good idea. Maybe one day only. That night, it was early morning, I agreed to have a trio, but they blocked the girls at the reception, because the rules don't let you have more than one guest at the time. They also bribe you 100 k COP every time you bring a girl. For that reason I changed my AirBnb booking and I got (for less money) an amazing flat in Laureles, completely independent, where I can bring 4 girls if I want, and they can even stay over, since I have two bedrooms and two bathrooms. So, I ended up to choose one of the girls, and a Canadian guy, got the other. End up the other girl left, because the retarded didn't have any money. I almost got in a fight with this stupid Canadian.
Anyway, this girl, wow, one of the best pair of tits I have ever seen and touched. Natural huge tits. And wow, she squirted. It was a great fuck. Only problem, she didn't suck natural. I'm sure if I book her again, maybe a couple of times, she might do it. Anyway, super hot 18 years old with amazing natural tits.
I can't use Tinder, because I got banned, and when I tried to use the colombian number, I got banned again, immediately. They probably check the device ID. I have instead installed Badoo. I met a black girl, a freebie, but Jesus she was fat as fuck, plus she told me she had a boob surgery, to reduce the size because she had back pain. I just paid her a drink, I even brought her to my apartment, but I couldn't really fuck her. I could have but. And tomorrow I'm about to meet another one. Never spoken about money with these girls from Badoo. Potentially I can meet 2 others, one in particular looks gorgeous. How does it work with Tinder or Facebook, do you offer money or do they ask?
So, I'm still new to the Colombian game, but I noticed all the prepagos, most of them at least, just offer a basic service for 130/150, which doesn't include french kiss, neither oral without. So for me, it's a pain, because I always need to negotiate, and most likely it's between 150 and 250. I have also noticed, many girls don't show their face on prepagos, and when you ask they are reluctant. Some completely refused, even when I said I'm a foreigner.
Anyway, what I noticed is that I'm more about quality than quantity. I will stop these cheap fucks, and I will go only with top girls, because I can't see another pair of saggy tits. What a disappointment, these girls were so pretty. I will give a try for 2 days to Badoo, to see if I can fuck one of these young girls I'm in contact.
[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2492828]I learned my lessons with TLNs. They are incredibly boring. We fucked / fooled around for two hours. I'm satisfied already. So we just lay around on our phones. I go to sleep and we fuck again in the morning which I am not in to because I like to take my mornings slow. I payed 300 mil for that. Never again. I don't speak spanish so I can't really converse with them and even if I could I don't think the conversations would be that entertaining. I'm even questioning my 2 hours deal because I leche twice in an hour and I just tell them to leave. I think I'm going to go with "150 mil mas taxi por dos leches" from now on.[/QUOTE]Me too, but I'm not happy with the basic service. And for 150 they usually don't kiss properly or they don't suck natural.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2492960]We European always feel this US 15%-20% gratuity thing a real extortion every time we go to USA. If the bill for my table dinner is $500, why the heck should we give $100 to the waiter?? At the end of the night, the waiters collect a basic monthly salary. Every night. Hard to accept this.
[/QUOTE]Actually the waiters in the USA generally don't collect a basic monthly salary.
They may make a couple dollars an hour plus tips.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2493101]They are not prepagos. They are sugar babies. $$$ does not matter to them. You only have to show it to get their attention.[/QUOTE]The whole purpose of a sugar relationship is financial gains for the girl and companionship (sexual or otherwise) on call for the man. So to show it and not give it is deception. And this is ok how?
To say money does not matter to these girls is absolutely not true. Do you guys think they're having sex with you cause they find you irresistible.
If a woman sells her body she is doing it only for the $$ And she will go where the $$$ is. Simple as that.
Sugaring for a female is all about $$ and gains. Gifts money food etc.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2493095]Well there's something that has been confirmed by several members. Repeat customers that keep going back to the same girl usually get the best prices. Some people even call them grandfather rates. It's kind of like buying in bulk or An employee generating business for a company. It also helps to have a business friendship and emotional connection to the girl. But as always it remains a client provider relationship.[/QUOTE]I definitely agree. Repeat business will always allow flexibility on price and service.
The girl feels more comfortable with you so it's only natural.
I rarely repeat unless I am desperate to get one off and no one is available.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2493120]Actually the waiters in the USA generally don't collect a basic monthly salary.
[red]They may make a couple dollars an hour plus tips[/red].[/QUOTE]This is even worse and hard to understand or accept for anyone coming from outside USA. You are admitting openly that in the "American System", waiters are not paid by the employer, but by the customer, who after having paid the (generally expensive) bill to the restaurant, is still charged additionally to compensate the waiter. If a salary is essentially made of tips, what taxes are paid? Where is the social security, retirement saving, health assistance? In Europe we call it "black work"!
I understand all this is 100 km (sorry miles) out of topic of ISG, so I will refrain to comment further, but I know you know what I am thinking.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2493189]This is even worse and hard to understand or accept for anyone coming from outside USA. You are admitting openly that in the "American System", waiters are not paid by the employer, but by the customer, who after having paid the (generally expensive) bill to the restaurant, is still charged additionally to compensate the waiter.[/QUOTE]That is correct. Here is a show that I like watching that explains all of that BS. The conclusion is that one has been put over on us Americans once again. And like you said Americans take those habits that they have been shammed into doing overseas and ruin other places. They also try to shame you if you do not do it. Paying more than shit costs is a dumb idea, but has gotten ingrained into the American psyche.
[b]Adam Ruins Everything: Season 1, Episode 5[/b]:
Adam Ruins Restaurants.
Adam explains why tipping is a custom worth ditching, shows that experts can't tell the difference between wines, and reveals that mislabelled seafood is rampant in the industry.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2493189]This is even worse and hard to understand or accept for anyone coming from outside USA. You are admitting openly that in the "American System", waiters are not paid by the employer, but by the customer, who after having paid the (generally expensive) bill to the restaurant, is still charged additionally to compensate the waiter. If a salary is essentially made of tips, what taxes are paid? Where is the social security, retirement saving, health assistance? In Europe we call it "black work"!
I understand all this is 100 km (sorry miles) out of topic of ISG, so I will refrain to comment further, but I know you know what I am thinking.[/QUOTE]I think that is true at the federal level but each state has its own rule so the minimum can be more than $10 in some states.
US residents have to pay income tax to the federal government and to the state government. Some states don't have income tax. In those cases, resident only pay federal income tax.
My friend told me, In the USA, if you walk into the restaurant, and order your food for take away, Receive the food in a bag, and then eat it at your apartment, Then you don't have to tip.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2493101]They are not prepagos. They are sugar babies. $$$ does not matter to them. You only have to show it to get their attention.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2493150]The whole purpose of a sugar relationship is financial gains for the girl and companionship (sexual or otherwise) on call for the man. So to show it and not give it is deception. And this is ok how?
To say money does not matter to these girls is absolutely not true. Do you guys think they're having sex with you cause they find you irresistible.
If a woman sells her body she is doing it only for the $$ And she will go where the $$$ is. Simple as that.
Sugaring for a female is all about $$ and gains. Gifts money food etc.[/QUOTE]This expression says it best - "The only honest woman is a prostitute".
Enough said in this one sentence. I have little respect for any woman who rationalizes what they do, should say how they justify and change the narrative to suit them, I have much more respect to the prostitute in skimpy cloths walking the streets of centro, at least they are honest and real.
Much respect for everyone!
The Tall Man.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2493151]
I rarely repeat unless I am desperate to get one off and no one is available.[/QUOTE]Why wouldn't you repeat if it's good?
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2493150]
Sugaring for a female is all about $$ and gains. Gifts money food etc.[/QUOTE]And so they can feel they are not transactional prepagos banging different guys daily for the money they want. If a girl can get a million COP a month from a guy that only shows up once a month or so then she wins, especially if she can keep it more or less a secret, like it never happened. When that guy does show up he has to take her shopping, of course and occasionally they might take a vacation.
[QUOTE=Chicafan;2493234]Why wouldn't you repeat if it's good?
[/QUOTE]Because there are millions of other chicks to try out. I monger for the variety, and not because I can not get sex. I repeat with non-pros. If I have to pay a chick then I would rather try a new one, unless like Sang said, there is nobody else available.
I monger to be the kid in the candy store trying everything under the sun, and not just sit there munching only on the baby ruths and gummy bears because they are good. 99 times out of 100 it is good anyway. As I said before, I don't really incur things to complain about how many other guys do.
[QUOTE=Chicafan;2493234]Why wouldn't you repeat if it's good?
I monger for variety as well. Once I hand my money over there is nothing more I want from the girl unless she absolutely blew me away which not many Colombian girls can do. They might be the hottest looks wise but the actual act of sex and all that it entails they are not close to the best.
The prettier the girl the more they think taking it up the poop shoot or swallowing my load is degrading to them. When they don’t realize that would make them so much $$$ in the long run.
Every once in a while I’ll find a gem and I’ll repeat. But after one or two at most I look for the next.
And so they can feel they are not transactional prepagos banging different guys daily for the money they want. If a girl can get a million COP a month from a guy that only shows up once a month or so then she wins, especially if she can keep it more or less a secret, like it never happened. When that guy does show up he has to take her shopping, of course and occasionally they might take a vacation.[/QUOTE]Too many guys do this.
It's so obvious when you look at IG stories or FB updates how these girls are always showing off gifts and how great their life is and kudos to them for their hustle.
Idc how a guy spends his $$ on women.
But I will say the only foolish thing is that some of these guys believe they are the "only one" in the girls lives.
These girls treat the internet and social media as their source of income.
I monger for variety as well. Once I hand my money over there is nothing more I want from the girl unless she absolutely blew me away which not many Colombian girls can do. They might be the hottest looks wise but the actual act of sex and all that it entails they are not close to the best.
The prettier the girl the more they think taking it up the poop shoot or swallowing my load is degrading to them. When they don't realize that would make them so much $$$ in the long run.
Every once in a while I'll find a gem and I'll repeat. But after one or two at most I look for the next.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2493244]Because there are millions of other chicks to try out. I monger for the variety, and not because I can not get sex. I repeat with non-pros. If I have to pay a chick then I would rather try a new one, unless like Sang said, there is nobody else available. I monger to be the kid in the candy store trying everything under the sun, and not just sit there munching only on the baby ruths and gummy bears because they are good. 99 times out of 100 it is good anyway. As I said before, I don't really incur things to complain about how many other guys do.[/QUOTE]You remind me how so many of us are legends in our own mind.
There have been a couple of girls who I enjoyed more than the others and I'm repeating with them today because facebook banned me from sending messages for 24 hours. I guess I offended too many chicas with my proposal. Usually if they seem appalled or say "jajajaja" I just block them and move on but I think they can still report me.
I had a couple of flakes yesterday which pissed me off. And even then no one answered my messages after 9 pm, except the obvious street walkers who for some reason never have a cedula. So yesterday was unfortunately a single girl day. One of the flakes is pleading to meet today and I will try again but the other is awol. Here is her profile: [URL]https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100030652815885&ref=content_filter[/URL] so you guys are aware.
[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2493260]There have been a couple of girls who I enjoyed more than the others and I'm repeating with them today because facebook banned me from sending messages for 24 hours. I guess I offended too many chicas with my proposal. Usually if they seem appalled or say "jajajaja" I just block them and move on but I think they can still report me.
I had a couple of flakes yesterday which pissed me off. And even then no one answered my messages after 9 pm, except the obvious street walkers who for some reason never have a cedula. So yesterday was unfortunately a single girl day. One of the flakes is pleading to meet today and I will try again but the other is awol. Here is her profile: [URL]https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100030652815885&ref=content_filter[/URL] so you guys are aware.[/QUOTE]Maybe I'm being more selective in who I proposition. But every girl I've asked, has responded with an offer.
[QUOTE=Chicafan;2493257]You remind me how so many of us are legends in our own mind.[/QUOTE]What is so legendary about fucking? That is literally what we are on this earth to do; fuck and make more people.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2493261]Maybe I'm being more selective in who I proposition. But every girl I've asked, has responded with an offer.[/QUOTE]I feel like I have to many normal girls in my friends list. I just keep adding whoever facebook recommends me and now have over 1 k girls. Also one of the girls I was with showed me a whatsapp group with all these girls in it and someone posted my profile and said I was giving "muy poco dinero" and discouraged others from seeing me. I guess its kind of a win win because girls who want more $ don't have to bother with me and I don't have to bother with them.
[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2493269]I feel like I have to many normal girls in my friends list. I just keep adding whoever facebook recommends me and now have over 1 k girls. Also one of the girls I was with showed me a whatsapp group with all these girls in it and someone posted my profile and said I was giving "muy poco dinero" and discouraged others from seeing me. I guess its kind of a win win because girls who want more $ don't have to bother with me and I don't have to bother with them.[/QUOTE]This is how putas unions inflate prices, but those mongers here that feel forced by fate to overpay, get livid when we try to do the same here.
How many putas will you see on there, arguing this is fucking bullshit, you putas are a bunch of evil monsters.
Its us vs them.
Not us vs us, like some here would prefer it to be.
I vote Mr E president of the MDE mongers local #69.
I will gladly volunteer to be his skull crusher for those that break the rules.
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2493118]OK guys,
So far I have been with a few girls. Today I went to Plaza Botero at about 6 PM. I spoke with one Colombian girl, very attractive, model figure, and then another young black girl passed by and I decided to bring them both home. They accepted 150 k COP for two hours 75+75, and they agreed to kiss. One she ate my ass, when I was fucking the other. But, when I have seen them naked, well, what a huge disappointment. Both have kids. One is 18 and she has a 2 years old kid. Her belly was the belly of an old woman, I mean old, really old. And the other one, the tits were like drained. Fuckin hell, why people do still do children in 2020? We are 7 billions, there is no fuckin need to make children! Anyway, these girls don't even have hot water. When they showered, the black girl was so happy cause the hot water.[/QUOTE]That's the advantages of the local strip clubs in Medellin, you can see what the girl looks like on stage 1st, then have her at your table for a drink, then test drive at the club and if she is fun and make a deal for the next day or night.
Hello,
I am decided that I can't wait any longer and have booked my first trip to Medellin next month.
Been mining FB as advised by a friend.
Does anyone these girls? Looking for recommendations. First one especially.
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/erikajohana.munoshernandez[/URL]
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/andrehita5050[/URL]
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/fresita.gonzalez.54[/URL]
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/daniela.alvarez.73307[/URL]
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100025134068072[/URL]
[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2493269]I feel like I have to many normal girls in my friends list. I just keep adding whoever facebook recommends me and now have over 1 k girls. Also one of the girls I was with showed me a whatsapp group with all these girls in it and someone posted my profile and said I was giving "muy poco dinero" and discouraged others from seeing me. I guess its kind of a win win because girls who want more $ don't have to bother with me and I don't have to bother with them.[/QUOTE]We should start a whatsapp group where we post profiles of girls who "cobran demasiado dinero" and discourage others from seeing them. Then send a screenshot of that to her.
[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2493269]I feel like I have to many normal girls in my friends list. I just keep adding whoever facebook recommends me and now have over 1 k girls. Also one of the girls I was with showed me a whatsapp group with all these girls in it and someone posted my profile and said I was giving "muy poco dinero" and discouraged others from seeing me. I guess its kind of a win win because girls who want more $ don't have to bother with me and I don't have to bother with them.[/QUOTE]I have been told of this group as well.
But boards like this and private chat groups don’t really help because I know mongers actually fall in love with these hookers and think they’re the only ones lmao.
They don’t like to share info when it’s obvious they are fucking other guys.
I would think a group for reviews on SA girls Tinder girls, IG and FB chicas would be great but based on the lack of actual info of the girls on this board I could already tell how that would go.
Thanks for sharing your particular situation. You are doing quite well but maybe there is room for improvement. Would you consider abandoning soliciting non sugar babies on Facebook. How about chatting them up on Facebook and then asking them if they would like to hear your proposal in WhatsApp chat. Let the girls take the initiative by joining your WhatsApp chat. Otherwise you may risk getting banned from Facebook. An internet company can ban your laptop or even your IP address and that would make life difficult.
The same goes for seeking Arrangements. If you look at their website rules offering sex for money is forbidden. That's why people always take the chat outside of seeking right before it gets intimate. Maybe that had something to do with the guy mentioning he got banned in Russia.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2492946]One of the reasons I went the sugar route is how stupidly expensive vacations and TLN were in the sex prison, but there are really only three reasons to do TLN. For me, the most common one is the environment. Everybody focuses on the women but fucking someone in a crowded, uncomfortable strip club or a gym mat or massage table makes for a far less enjoyable experience. Like you said though, two hours in a hotel is probably equivalent to TLN in most cases.
The second is if you really like the woman's company beyond sex. Holding someone you like all night, spooning with them, seeing them first thing in the morning, the morning BJ can be great, but even if the woman is a working girl not a SB, you probably want to reserve this for a woman you have seen before and like. I get that for most guys Colombia is a rush to fuck as much strange as possible. Though the temptation for new is always great, if you have a great session with one gal, you probably are better off doing a repeat or considering a TLN.
The third reason is this is the most rare but what guys are hoping for, the prostitute nympho where you fuck all night. I can recall only a few times in my life this happening. The first requirement is you. Can you fuck all night? I am not even just talking about from a stamina point of view but from a hardness / lack of sleep point of view. The second requirement is a full fledged nympho that wants to fuck all night, and her mind has to be there as well. It is great when the stars align and this happens, but for me, this has been a once in a decade occurrence and in all the cases, it was not planned.[/QUOTE]It seems very few guys understand "nympho. " Don't take offense.
An actual nympho, a woman who has the clinical disorder of nymphomania, is not the wonder most guys imagine. She's a woman who literally has no control over who she has sex with or when. She can't achieve any type of satisfaction, but the need to try to get satisfaction is undeniable.
For a guy in his 20's this is great. For someone a bit older, not so great. The eye opening moment for me was, after I had just barebacked her, she told me that when she went to the store for cigarettes, just a short walk away, it took her 2 hours because she fucked 3 different guys who flirted with her, all bareback.
Now a woman with a high sex drive, that's a different story. She can fuck you silly, have multiple Os, then come back an hour later and do it again.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2493021]I like TLN's with Chica's I have some history with, and of course they have to be all in. This means no rules nor quotas or schedules. So when I wake up with morning wood at 6 AM there's no pushback. For me, blowing a load after a good nights sleep seems to be more satisfying than any other time of day for me personally.
Maybe another way of looking at this is imagine when your horny and want to blow a load, instead of having to go on the hunt say in El Centro, go to a casa, or schedule a Cita with a Fayboo or Tinder Chica you don't have to go far nor wait. I know other guys can relate to this, where others just want Ratos.
It's all a matter of how you roll and there's no right or wrong as everyone is so different.[/QUOTE]Shoot. I thought you did TLNs because it's cheaper to put them on the metro in the morning than pay for a taxi.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2493150]The whole purpose of a sugar relationship is financial gains for the girl and companionship (sexual or otherwise) on call for the man. So to show it and not give it is deception. And this is ok how?
To say money does not matter to these girls is absolutely not true. Do you guys think they're having sex with you cause they find you irresistible.
If a woman sells her body she is doing it only for the $$ And she will go where the $$$ is. Simple as that.
Sugaring for a female is all about $$ and gains. Gifts money food etc.[/QUOTE]I think you missed it. Mr E's post was pure sarcasm.
[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2493269] "muy poco dinero" [/QUOTE]If she wasn't happy with the gift Shouldn't she have asked for more. Why the need to go badmouthing another person publicly?
[QUOTE=Nounce;2493217]I think that is true at the federal level but each state has its own rule so the minimum can be more than $10 in some states.
US residents have to pay income tax to the federal government and to the state government. Some states don't have income tax. In those cases, resident only pay federal income tax.[/QUOTE]In most states the minimum is $2.13 per hour, but employer is obligated to cover up to $7.25 per hour if tips are not enough.
Some states have a higher minimum wage.
The tax issue is a good topic. An old stripper friend who saved her money had always reported minimum income for tax purposes. When she decided to buy a house she had to report much closer to her actual income to qualify for a loan, which meant paying a big chunk in taxes.
[QUOTE=Chicafan;2493234]Why wouldn't you repeat if it's good?
And so they can feel they are not transactional prepagos banging different guys daily for the money they want. If a girl can get a million COP a month from a guy that only shows up once a month or so then she wins, especially if she can keep it more or less a secret, like it never happened. When that guy does show up he has to take her shopping, of course and occasionally they might take a vacation.[/QUOTE]Or, she can take the money, see 2 or 3 other guys every week, for money, have 2 other guys sending her money and have a local boyfriend who disappears whenever one of the daddies comes to town.
Apparently, a monger known to frequent Medellin was arrested at the Bogota airport on Tuesday. His passport was confiscated and he will spend 2 months in jail before being deported. He will not be allowed to return for 5 years.
Allegedly this guy liked to tie up hookers and beat them. All good, up to a point. However, he beat them bloody and at least one ended up in the hospital.
There was someone a few months back talking about beating up hookers if they gave him any problems. It would appear that's not a good idea.
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2493118]OK guys,
This is my first contribution to the forum. I have been in Medellin for a few days, since Sunday, we may say.
So far I have been with a few girls. Today I went to Plaza Botero at about 6 PM. I spoke with one Colombian girl, very attractive, model figure, and then another young black girl passed by and I decided to bring them both home. They accepted 150 k COP for two hours 75+75, and they agreed to kiss. One she ate my ass, when I was fucking the other. But, when I have seen them naked, well, what a huge disappointment. Both have kids. One is 18 and she has a 2 years old kid. Her belly was the belly of an old woman, I mean old, really old. And the other one, the tits were like drained. Fuckin hell, why people do still do children in 2020? We are 7 billions, there is no fuckin need to make children! Anyway, these girls don't even have hot water. When they showered, the black girl was so happy cause the hot water.
I mean, these girls could ask 150 on prepagos, even 200, if just they were ok, but they are not anymore. How the background, the environment, and some stupid choice can turn your life in a shit.
Anyway, I let them go after the first one, because the saggy tits of the white one, and the belly of the morena, were a huge turn off.
The other night, after midnight, I went to visit a place called la Mayorista. Turn out I got busted by the police, who checked if I had drugs. They stopped the taxi, most likely because I was sitting in the front seat, since I was speaking with the driver about the place. When the police left us, we looked around a couple of times, then I contracted the price with a white 30 years old girl with fake and huge tits. I let the driver go and I spent 30 minutes with the girl. She was ok, but that's not what I'm looking for, really..[/QUOTE]Nice report and you might give the Botero area a few more tries, there's a lot of hidden gems there to be found but it takes a while to find them if you have the time.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2493320] An internet company can ban your laptop or even your IP address and that would make life difficult.[/QUOTE]I don't know how they'd be able to ban a certain device. Maybe someone with more tech knowledge can chime in. As to IP addresses, there's VPNs, plus simply unplugging your modem for a bit them plugging it back in will get a new IP addressed assigned.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2493331]Apparently, a monger known to frequent Medellin was arrested at the Bogota airport on Tuesday. His passport was confiscated and he will spend 2 months in jail before being deported. He will not be allowed to return for 5 years.
Allegedly this guy liked to tie up hookers and beat them. All good, up to a point. However, he beat them bloody and at least one ended up in the hospital.
There was someone a few months back talking about beating up hookers if they gave him any problems. It would appear that's not a good idea.[/QUOTE]Yikes. Do you have a source for this that you can share? Was it in the news?
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2493118]One she ate my ass, when I was fucking the other.[/QUOTE]And people here wonder why I typically am not into kissing these putas. I feel bad for the next guy she had a session with LOL.
[QUOTE=TresRios;2493293]Hello,
I am decided that I can't wait any longer and have booked my first trip to Medellin next month.
Been mining FB as advised by a friend.
Does anyone these girls? Looking for recommendations. First one especially.
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/erikajohana.munoshernandez[/URL]
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/andrehita5050[/URL]
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/fresita.gonzalez.54[/URL]
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/daniela.alvarez.73307[/URL]
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100025134068072[/URL][/QUOTE]If they are hot in your opinion, and you are ok with the price, go for it.
I haven't used Facebook to monger. I just pick up what I see and like on the streets, bars, and clubs.
Do what works for you. I recommend Leidy Barron, I'm sure you can find her on Instagram.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2493321]It seems very few guys understand "nympho. " Don't take offense.
An actual nympho, a woman who has the clinical disorder of nymphomania, is not the wonder most guys imagine. She's a woman who literally has no control over who she has sex with or when. She can't achieve any type of satisfaction, but the need to try to get satisfaction is undeniable.
For a guy in his 20's this is great. For someone a bit older, not so great. The eye opening moment for me was, after I had just barebacked her, she told me that when she went to the store for cigarettes, just a short walk away, it took her 2 hours because she fucked 3 different guys who flirted with her, all bareback.
Now a woman with a high sex drive, that's a different story. She can fuck you silly, have multiple Os, then come back an hour later and do it again.[/QUOTE]Moral of the story? Don't fuck chicks that smoke?? Lmao!
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2493322]Shoot. I thought you did TLNs because it's cheaper to put them on the metro in the morning than pay for a taxi.[/QUOTE]I do TLN's in El Centro, and when I'm done with them they are on their own whether they get on the bus or the the Metro, it's up to them. In fact, some of them have never been in a Taxi, too expensive as a combination bus / Metro ride will get you literally anywhere in the City whereas the minimum taxi fare will only get you a few miles.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2493323]I think you missed it. Mr E's post was pure sarcasm.[/QUOTE]It was not sarcasm. I simply repeated what Elvis said. I just forgot to quote him.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2493189]This is even worse and hard to understand or accept for anyone coming from outside USA. You are admitting openly that in the "American System", waiters are not paid by the employer, but by the customer, who after having paid the (generally expensive) bill to the restaurant, is still charged additionally to compensate the waiter. If a salary is essentially made of tips, what taxes are paid? Where is the social security, retirement saving, health assistance? In Europe we call it "black work"!
I understand all this is 100 km (sorry miles) out of topic of ISG, so I will refrain to comment further, but I know you know what I am thinking.[/QUOTE]What you need to understand about restaurant workers in the US earning tips is that it works out to be considerable more money than if they were paid a salary. People mostly pay with a bank card so there is usually a paper record of the transaction and this is the basis for determining the taxes. There is usually ample money in the initial pay given by the restaurant to cover the payroll taxes and the person is subject as an independent contractor to handle income tax (they can deduct for their uniforms and other work expenses and health insurance. And an IRA investment vehicle for retirement. I ran a middle of the tiers restaurant years ago and the permanent wait staff made decent money. At the more expensive restaurants that you mentioned those wait staff can earn over 100 000 USD a year, no exaggerations at all.
[URL]https://www.quora.com/How-much-does-a-waiter-at-a-5-star-restaurant-make[/URL]
Good riddance.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2493331]Apparently, a monger known to frequent Medellin was arrested at the Bogota airport on Tuesday. His passport was confiscated and he will spend 2 months in jail before being deported. He will not be allowed to return for 5 years.
Allegedly this guy liked to tie up hookers and beat them. All good, up to a point. However, he beat them bloody and at least one ended up in the hospital.
There was someone a few months back talking about beating up hookers if they gave him any problems. It would appear that's not a good idea.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2493118]OK guys,
This is my first contribution to the forum. I have been in Medellin for a few days, since Sunday, we may say.
So far I have been with a few girls. Today I went to Plaza Botero at about 6 PM. I spoke with one Colombian girl, very attractive, model figure, and then another young black girl passed by and I decided to bring them both home. They accepted 150 k COP for two hours 75+75, and they agreed to kiss. One she ate my ass, when I was fucking the other. But, when I have seen them naked, well, what a huge disappointment. Both have kids. One is 18 and she has a 2 years old kid. Her belly was the belly of an old woman, I mean old, really old. And the other one, the tits were like drained. Fuckin hell, why people do still do children in 2020? We are 7 billions, there is no fuckin need to make children! Anyway, these girls don't even have hot water. When they showered, the black girl was so happy cause the hot water..[/QUOTE]Update on Badoo?
I see a lot of conversation about Facebook and etc. I'll be traveling to Medellin for the first time and I'm fairly price insensitive as long as it's within the realm of being reasonable. The important thing for me is to just have a good time. That means I'm just hoping to find attractive women with great service and / or attitude even if I have to pay a premium. I'll be around for two weeks so I'm hoping to avoid duds. Time is more important than the money personally.
What would you recommend for someone traveling under these expectations. The Facebook route seems way to annoying for me personally. I've heard of photoprepago, colombiancupid, mansion, casas, gustos / club freelancers, streetwalkers, massage parlors, strip clubs and a bunch of others. There seems to be an insane number of things to check out. I'm looking to really cut down the list. I've tried to read up on everything but there's a lot that I'll probably just need to try out myself.
When I travel I like to explain that I'm uncultured. I have zero interest in seeing anything. I just want to eat, workout and meet women. Anything outside of that is shitting in my cornflakes.
[QUOTE=GringoTrooper;2493340]Yikes. Do you have a source for this that you can share? Was it in the news?[/QUOTE]I haven't seen it in the news yet. Heard about it in a monger group I'm a member of. There had been a lot of talk about the guy in the week before because of the girl who ended up in the hospital.
From the pictures and descriptions I've seen, this was an extreme case. It was a lot more than handcuffs and some light spanking. The guy was trying to do damage.
I'm a little surprised the ban is only for 5 years. Then again, if he makes it through 2 months in jail in Bogota, he probably won't be ready to return anytime soon.
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2493338]I don't know how they'd be able to ban a certain device. Maybe someone with more tech knowledge can chime in. As to IP addresses, there's VPNs, plus simply unplugging your modem for a bit them plugging it back in will get a new IP addressed assigned.[/QUOTE]Digital fingerprints. And many sites ban vpn services. Using socks is the best way to bypass a certain site but your device can still be recognized. All depends on how strict the security is.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2493376]Digital fingerprints. And many sites ban vpn services. Using socks is the best way to bypass a certain site but your device can still be recognized. All depends on how strict the security is.[/QUOTE]I tried a VPN for the 1st time ever.
ExpressVPN, every site I tried to use it on, blocked me.
There are so many scammers on seeking. They want to sell pictures without confirming their identity before hand through videoconference. And then they want an upfront fee before confirming their identity through videoconference.
It's such a waste of time talking to a girl and then finding out she's a scammer. Never reveal any of your details before confirming her identity. And also some of the girls are too young to have good manners so they think they don't have to reply quickly on what App and establish trust. Like they say sure let's have the video conference tomorrow. But why would I want to wait a whole day when I'm thinking she's probably just some weird guy selling pictures.
Next time from the 1st message After The greeting just say: I'm busy, please don't message me if you're sscammer. I don't buy pictures without you confirming your identity.
[QUOTE=TresRios;2493293]Hello,
I am decided that I can't wait any longer and have booked my first trip to Medellin next month.
Been mining FB as advised by a friend.
Does anyone these girls? Looking for recommendations. First one especially.
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/erikajohana.munoshernandez[/URL]
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/andrehita5050[/URL]
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/fresita.gonzalez.54[/URL]
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/daniela.alvarez.73307[/URL]
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100025134068072[/URL][/QUOTE]I can't vouch for the other girls but Mariana Palacio should be avoided harder than the clap. Another member posted about her months ago just search the forum. She, Camila Bedoya / Lidsey Santilla and Emiliana Villegas Londono specialize in taking advantage of foreigners in my experience. You're better off jacking off to Whoopi Goldberg.
[QUOTE=Kinosellis;2493366]I see a lot of conversation about Facebook and etc. I'll be traveling to Medellin for the first time and I'm fairly price insensitive as long as it's within the realm of being reasonable. The important thing for me is to just have a good time. That means I'm just hoping to find attractive women with great service and / or attitude even if I have to pay a premium. I'll be around for two weeks so I'm hoping to avoid duds. Time is more important than the money personally.
What would you recommend for someone traveling under these expectations. The Facebook route seems way to annoying for me personally. I've heard of photoprepago, colombiancupid, mansion, casas, gustos / club freelancers, streetwalkers, massage parlors, strip clubs and a bunch of others. There seems to be an insane number of things to check out. I'm looking to really cut down the list. I've tried to read up on everything but there's a lot that I'll probably just need to try out myself.
When I travel I like to explain that I'm uncultured. I have zero interest in seeing anything. I just want to eat, workout and meet women. Anything outside of that is shitting in my cornflakes.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure what makes Facebook too annoying, especially if price really isn't an issue.
It's a simple process. While you're waiting for your trip, start building a list of chicas on Facebook. You can spend 10-15 minutes a day adding to your list. Unless you are starting your trip in the next 2 weeks, you can easily have 100-200 contacts before you go to the airport.
No need to send any messages or get into any involved conversation until about a week before your trip. Any girl that messages you, keep it simple. If they do message you it will probably be something like "Hola, Como estás" (Hello, how are you?)
You can reply with "Bien. Why tu? Estaré en Medellin pronto why quiero verte." (I'm good. How are you? I will be in Medellin soon and want to see you.).
You can add in a few more pleasantries, but there's no need to get too involved. Later on you can talk price and details. My negotiation tactic is simple. If she quotes higher than I want to pay I respond with "Siempre pago. " Followed by my price (I always pay). Other people go back and forth over price. Your choice.
Then it's just a matter of day and time once you arrive.
Most Facebook girls seem happy to stay 2 or more hours and most, in my experience give full GFE. I've rarely had problems getting GFE and BBBJ and never paid extra for either.
To me, there are some advantages to Facebook.
1. Shop at home. No making 3 laps around El Centro, no visits to 3 strip clubs.
2. Many Facebook girls are active, giving you a glimpse into their lives. You can see a lot you won't see on photoprepagos. It can give you a better idea of what kind of person you're dealing with.
3. Hookers have friends who are hookers. Each one opens a door to more contacts.
4. There's always someone available. Just posting that you're in Medellin will likely get you several messages.
5. Access to special discounts. Occasionally a girl will be desperate for money, or just bored. This can result in significant discounts.
However, as you noted, there are many different options, each with advantages and disadvantages.
Everything a puta does. Regular girls do the same shit. Maybe not in the abundance but every sex act is done by a regular chick most often unbeknowst to you.
[QUOTE=GringoTrooper;2493341]And people here wonder why I typically am not into kissing these putas. I feel bad for the next guy she had a session with LOL.[/QUOTE].
Not bad, why not spill the beans and share how you found These links? This current method of looking at other people's friends list and looking at Facebook suggestion is not very impressive. There should definitely be some sort of group where people can share profiles.
[QUOTE=TresRios;2493293]Hello,
I am decided that I can't wait any longer and have booked my first trip to Medellin next month.
Been mining FB as advised by a friend.
Does anyone these girls? Looking for recommendations. First one especially.
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/erikajohana.munoshernandez[/URL]
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/andrehita5050[/URL]
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/fresita.gonzalez.54[/URL]
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/daniela.alvarez.73307[/URL]
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100025134068072[/URL][/QUOTE]
I know Daniela Alvarez. Nice girl, but a little quirky. My understanding is that she is retired, other than fucking an occasional old client. She had a baby earlier this year and still has not lost all of the weight. So her body is not what it once is. I have never banged her, so I can't speak to that. But just approach carefully, because she is not actively working as far as I know.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2493397]Not bad, why not spill the beans and share how you found These links? This current method of looking at other people's friends list and looking at Facebook suggestion is not very impressive. There should definitely be some sort of group where people can share profiles.[/QUOTE]
It's official. This facebook thread confirms Medellin is back. It's been six plus months since we had a series of "anybody know this facebook girl" profile posts.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2493397]Not bad, why not spill the beans and share how you found These links? This current method of looking at other people's friends list and looking at Facebook suggestion is not very impressive. There should definitely be some sort of group where people can share profiles.[/QUOTE]
Two things:
1. Devices have serial number like physical identifiers known as Media Access Control (MAC) addresses. They can be used to restrict or track devices. Like anything else they can be forged and hidden but few users bother with that.
2. Unplugging a device can change a device's IP address but it depends on how the network is configured for the so-called "lease period". It can be set for most any value from indefinite to 24 hours, to several days. Administrators normally try to balance convenience with efficient use of resources.
OK, anyone who uses this information owes me a $100 fee. LOL!
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2493376]Digital fingerprints. And many sites ban vpn services. Using socks is the best way to bypass a certain site but your device can still be recognized. All depends on how strict the security is.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2493398]I know Daniela Alvarez. Nice girl, but a little quirky. My understanding is that she is retired, other than fucking an occasional old client. She had a baby earlier this year and still has not lost all of the weight. So her body is not what it once is. I have never banged her, so I can't speak to that. But just approach carefully, because she is not actively working as far as I know.[/QUOTE]Interesting. Tres areíos, maybe message her and see if she wants to go out for a drink, to see whether she is open to meeting up.
She looks good in her October photo, and she certainly alludes to being a working girl in certain of her posts.
[QUOTE=Kinosellis;2493366]I see a lot of conversation about Facebook and etc. I'll be traveling to Medellin for the first time and I'm fairly price insensitive as long as it's within the realm of being reasonable. The important thing for me is to just have a good time. That means I'm just hoping to find attractive women with great service and / or attitude even if I have to pay a premium. I'll be around for two weeks so I'm hoping to avoid duds. Time is more important than the money personally.
What would you recommend for someone traveling under these expectations. The Facebook route seems way to annoying for me personally. I've heard of photoprepago, colombiancupid, mansion, casas, gustos / club freelancers, streetwalkers, massage parlors, strip clubs and a bunch of others. There seems to be an insane number of things to check out. I'm looking to really cut down the list. I've tried to read up on everything but there's a lot that I'll probably just need to try out myself.
When I travel I like to explain that I'm uncultured. I have zero interest in seeing anything. I just want to eat, workout and meet women. Anything outside of that is shitting in my cornflakes.[/QUOTE]You should try loutron atleast once.
[QUOTE=Forever18;2493365]Update on Badoo?[/QUOTE]If no kids, hugely doubtful she would be eating your ass.
[QUOTE=Kinosellis;2493366]I see a lot of conversation about Facebook and etc. I'll be traveling to Medellin for the first time and I'm fairly price insensitive as long as it's within the realm of being reasonable. The important thing for me is to just have a good time. That means I'm just hoping to find attractive women with great service and / or attitude even if I have to pay a premium. I'll be around for two weeks so I'm hoping to avoid duds. Time is more important than the money personally.
What would you recommend for someone traveling under these expectations. The Facebook route seems way to annoying for me personally. I've heard of photoprepago, colombiancupid, mansion, casas, gustos / club freelancers, streetwalkers, massage parlors, strip clubs and a bunch of others. There seems to be an insane number of things to check out. I'm looking to really cut down the list. I've tried to read up on everything but there's a lot that I'll probably just need to try out myself.
When I travel I like to explain that I'm uncultured. I have zero interest in seeing anything. I just want to eat, workout and meet women. Anything outside of that is shitting in my cornflakes.[/QUOTE]If your not fluent in Spanish, and if money is not an issue, you should perhaps stay at the Mansion and / or consider hiring a bilingual driver to take you around and perhaps be your interpreter / bodyguard. Colombia is not like other Countries for hobbying with the issues confronting you being the language, numerous venues, and it can be dangerous, yet on the other hand it can be phenomenal.
I remember the first time I came to Colombia like 12 years ago, I had a driver who took me all around. You might want to do this for a few days until you identify the venues you like such as strip clubs / casa's and when you feel comfortable go out on your own. Also would be good to have a wingman if someone is around to go out with you. I also suggest you stay either in Poblado or Laureles in a known girl friendly establishment.
What exactly is it you pay that puts you on their list? Must be pretty bad.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2493297]We should start a whatsapp group where we post profiles of girls who "cobran demasiado dinero" and discourage others from seeing them. Then send a screenshot of that to her.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Frank11;2493387]There are so many scammers on seeking. They want to sell pictures without confirming their identity before hand through videoconference. And then they want an upfront fee before confirming their identity through videoconference.
It's such a waste of time talking to a girl and then finding out she's a scammer. Never reveal any of your details before confirming her identity. And also some of the girls are too young to have good manners so they think they don't have to reply quickly on what App and establish trust. Like they say sure let's have the video conference tomorrow. But why would I want to wait a whole day when I'm thinking she's probably just some weird guy selling pictures.
Next time from the 1st message After The greeting just say: I'm busy, please don't message me if you're sscammer. I don't buy pictures without you confirming your identity.[/QUOTE]Porn is free. I never pay for videos, camming, or pics. I only gift if our date leads to intimacy. No more no less.
[QUOTE=IamLookin;2493417]What exactly is it you pay that puts you on their list? Must be pretty bad.
.[/QUOTE]
Why isn't the question, what exactly is it that they charge that puts them on my list? Must be pretty bad. Read my past reports for how much I've paid girls.
What is bad and what is good? Is it bad to come to an agreement and pay the agreed upon amount?
I'm not going to make any judgements on what you pay. Don't cast your judgements on mine.
Just to let you know, the chica who I ONLY paid 100k the other day whatsapped me today and asked to see me again this weekend. She doesn't seem so upset about it.
100k was her asking price. Not mine.
I don't care about reading your past posts. The girls on WhatsApp and Facebook are 150 to 200 usually.
I know quite a few who will stay with me TLN for around 200. To be on their shit list you must be pretty bad.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2493428]Why isn't the question, what exactly is it that they charge that puts them on my list? Must be pretty bad. Read my past reports for how much I've paid girls.
Here's another guy who wants to start making judgements on what people pay again. Every other day. lol.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=IamLookin;2493430]I don't care about reading your past posts. The girls on WhatsApp and Facebook are 150 to 200 usually.
I know quite a few who will stay with me TLN for around 200. To be on their shit list you must be pretty bad.
.[/QUOTE]No one ever said I was on their shit list. If you read the post I was responding to that guy pays around what you pay. So you would probably make their shit list too. If it makes you feel any better, I pay even less.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2493387]There are so many scammers on seeking. They want to sell pictures without confirming their identity before hand through videoconference. And then they want an upfront fee before confirming their identity through videoconference.
It's such a waste of time talking to a girl and then finding out she's a scammer. Never reveal any of your details before confirming her identity. And also some of the girls are too young to have good manners so they think they don't have to reply quickly on what App and establish trust. Like they say sure let's have the video conference tomorrow. But why would I want to wait a whole day when I'm thinking she's probably just some weird guy selling pictures.
Next time from the 1st message After The greeting just say: I'm busy, please don't message me if you're sscammer. I don't buy pictures without you confirming your identity.[/QUOTE]SA is not what it once was, they keep raising the price, what is it now, like a see note? Since the covid it has been flooded by pic sellers, scammers who want your phone number and set up cash app scams, Platonic bullshit, and too many prepagos. Send an interest and the second sentence out of her mouth is "how much you pay" fuck you! Delete. And you pay 100 a month for that? What once was a good source is over and the owners of the board don't do anything about policing that shit or do many upgrades. Thanks to keeping in touch with lots of girls I have over the years, I never need to chase the working girls anymore. Keep in touch with the good ones.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2493355]It was not sarcasm. I simply repeated what Elvis said. I just forgot to quote him.[/QUOTE]Elvis said he made investments, not payments. The best ones are during market disruption.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2493331]Apparently, a monger known to frequent Medellin was arrested at the Bogota airport on Tuesday. His passport was confiscated and he will spend 2 months in jail before being deported. He will not be allowed to return for 5 years.
Allegedly this guy liked to tie up hookers and beat them. All good, up to a point. However, he beat them bloody and at least one ended up in the hospital.[/QUOTE]This is not a monger. This is a dangerous psycho. He should stay in jail much longer than 2 months.
This is not even BDSM (which I like to some extent, BTW), as he lured poor girls with money and then violated their trust. I am surprised first how is it possible that those girls did not have a friend in their barrios who could teach him the lesson, then also how police had his data, as he was arrested at the airport, but was not able to lcate him in Medellin. I am very curious to read more of this story.
I mean most casas offer 60 k an hour 2 nuts. Some 90 k, some 120 k. There your not providing any extra entertainment they normally receive from you otherwise. Your not paying for taxi. You only pay additionals no condom, anal, cum in the mouth. Who would know the rates better than the casas. Do you go in a supermarket and pay twice as much as you pay for the listed price. Members are just trying to suggest whoa you don't really have to pay that much. I had an 8 charge me 300 k for 7 days after 2 prior session. She only stayed 5 days but hey I still came out a winner. She said look I charge 300 k for sometimes 30 minutes so don't be upset with me. When these girls hear that such a person got Xtra amount. They start asking for that amount. So now communicating, interacting become a hassle. I think that's the point the big spenders, buy pics, and video guys do not understand. You get a flood of girls requesting offers unrelated to actually meeting someone, having sex or deserving of their value.
[QUOTE=IamLookin;2493417]What exactly is it you pay that puts you on their list? Must be pretty bad.
.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=TresRios;2493293]Hello,
I am decided that I can't wait any longer and have booked my first trip to Medellin next month.
Been mining FB as advised by a friend.
Does anyone these girls? Looking for recommendations. First one especially.
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/erikajohana.munoshernandez[/URL]
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/andrehita5050[/URL]
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/fresita.gonzalez.54[/URL]
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/daniela.alvarez.73307[/URL]
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100025134068072[/URL][/QUOTE]I can only vouch for the first one. Erika Munos. I first saw her a few times a couple years back. Saw her again about two months ago. Very thin not a lot of baby damage. Friendly girl and you'll have a good time.
I wouldn't call her a super star performer but I would bet you'll be satisfied with your cita.
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2493450]scammers who want your phone number and set up cash app scams, [/QUOTE]Can scammers on seeking do a scam If they only have the sugar daddies phone number?
[QUOTE=Frank11;2493550]Can scammers on seeking do a scam If they only have the sugar daddies phone number?[/QUOTE]I was getting lots of requests to send my number so we could 'talk' jaja yea right. Never give your number. Also look out for the girl you communicating with changing her city frequently. A real warning to stay away.
They can do lots with your phone number, NEVER give a girl your number, especially here in the states.
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2493338]I don't know how they'd be able to ban a certain device. Maybe someone with more tech knowledge can chime in. As to IP addresses, there's VPNs, plus simply unplugging your modem for a bit them plugging it back in will get a new IP addressed assigned.[/QUOTE]Paulie your Win has an ID, your PC-HD has an ID, your Motherboard has an ID, the matter fact is that every program you have installed on your PC have an ID. This is one way to recognize you anywhere you travel.
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2493553]They can do lots with your phone number, NEVER give a girl your number, especially here in the states.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your answer. What exactly can a scammer do with a number?
Maybe then sugar daddys should use a separate number for seeking.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2493253]Once I hand my money over there is nothing more I want from the girl unless she absolutely blew me away which not many Colombian girls can do. They might be the hottest looks wise but the actual act of sex and all that it entails they are not close to the best.[/QUOTE]COL only pays dividends to those who are crazy about latin girls.
That depends on the sugar daddy more than anything else. It's not complicated, don't send money. Make a deal and consummate it in person only. The less wrapped in the noise you get the less vulnerable you will be to scamming.
Search your phone numbers on the internet to get a feel for how risky it may be to share it.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2493550]Can scammers on seeking do a scam If they only have the sugar daddies phone number?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Haokool;2493555]Paulie your Win has an ID, your PC-HD has an ID, your Motherboard has an ID, the matter fact is that every program you have installed on your PC have an ID. This is one way to recognize you anywhere you travel.[/QUOTE]Being really anonymous on the Internet is quite challenging. The good thing is that unless you don't do something seriously illegal you don't have the FBI and NSA chasing your footsteps.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2493593]Being really anonymous on the Internet is quite challenging. The good thing is that unless you don't do something seriously illegal you don't have the FBI and NSA chasing your footsteps.[/QUOTE]I keep an anonymous cheap walmart tracfone at my home and pay about $100 per year for service. Actually I use it to monitor a security system and my furnace settings but I also use it for my whatsapp number. I have no hesitation to give out my whatsapp number to anyone. If they call the number they will learn the temperature in my home LOL.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2493559]Thanks for your answer. What exactly can a scammer do with a number?
Maybe then sugar daddys should use a separate number for seeking.[/QUOTE]You do need a number. How do you keep in touch with SB if you don't have a number. I prefer not to chat on SA so I want to move the conversation elsewhere ASAP. Often I just give out the number on the first message to move to WA or text right away. Sometimes it is the girl who hesitates. You can always block a number.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2493593]Being really anonymous on the Internet is quite challenging. The good thing is that unless you don't do something seriously illegal you don't have the FBI and NSA chasing your footsteps.[/QUOTE]It is the site puts something on your computer. They can identify you as long as that exists. In theory, a web site can't even read a file on disk, the other stuff simply are not accessible. If a hole found, it will be plugged quickly.
I made it down to COL. Staying with some friends. I tried out the condoms but it was too small so it wouldn't roll all the way down to the base of my Mann shaft. Which brand and make of condom is a larger size. Because the boxes don't really specify the length of the condom.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2493509]I had an 8 charge me 300 k for 7 days after 2 prior session. She only stayed 5 days but hey I still came out a winner. She said look I charge 300 k for sometimes 30 minutes so don't be upset with me.[/QUOTE]300 k in total for 7 days? I don't believe it's true not even for one day. I have been with a really hot prepagos, she wants 800 k for the day, she was willing to accept 700 k, but for oral without condom she wants 300 more. I offered her 800 k in total and she didn't accept. If she doesn't accept means she can make more in a day, and she is not for sale. There is no way an 8 will accept 300 k for a week, when any prepagos doesn't even take a taxi for less than 200/250 (in most cases) when oral without and kisses are included. Unless you are Brad Pitt, or you show me proof, there is no other way I'm going to believe you. You can maybe find a girl who works en el centro, with cheap clothes and bad hygiene, a desperate. But I'm not even sure.
[QUOTE=Haokool;2493555]Paulie your Win has an ID, your PC-HD has an ID, your Motherboard has an ID, the matter fact is that every program you have installed on your PC have an ID. This is one way to recognize you anywhere you travel.[/QUOTE]Interesting. Thanks for the feedback. I know VPNs are good for spoofing locations and change IP addresses. How widespread is the capability for internet entities to access the info you speak of, Win ID, PC-HD ID, etc? I do now recall now my bank coming back with "we don't recognize this device," but these surely have better than average resources.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2493630]It is the site puts something on your computer. They can identify you as long as that exists. In theory, a web site can't even read a file on disk, the other stuff simply are not accessible. If a hole found, it will be plugged quickly.[/QUOTE]Well it is not that simple. I use TOR if I really want anonimity, but I check ISG from my office computer plain plain.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2493633]I tried out the condoms but it was too small so it wouldn't roll all the way down to the base of my Mann shaft.[/QUOTE]I expected such juicy report from SJobs, but nutting.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2493633]I made it down to COL. Staying with some friends. I tried out the condoms but it was too small so it wouldn't roll all the way down to the base of my Mann shaft. Which brand and make of condom is a larger size. Because the boxes don't really specify the length of the condom.[/QUOTE]Thank you for making my day kind sir.
Happy to hear you made it down there!
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2493504]This is not a monger. This is a dangerous psycho. He should stay in jail much longer than 2 months.[/QUOTE]I fully agree. I wonder how his time is going in jail LOL. He is probably getting tag teamed as we speak or worse.
I noticed that a lot of you talk but don't share anything. So I decided to share something, hoping you'll do the same:
1) Nakhary aka Giselle.
[URL=https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/medellin/laureles-estadio/gata-feroz-en-la-cama-quiere-divertirse-contigo-id-9s8av]link[/URL]
[URL=https://selfiescorts.com/giselle-311-756-4664-escorts-laureles]link[/URL]
It's the black girl I have spoken in the other post. Good attitude, great ass with an amazing hole, nice pussy, clean and not smelly. She doesn't like to kiss, at least me. Natural small tits with big nipples, which I love. Decent blow job. I think I paid 170 at my place. Strong features: ass and nipples, and skin color if you like black girls. She is Venezuelan. I might call her again.
2) Carla aka Klaudia.
[URL=https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/medellin/laureles-estadio/te-dare-un-oral-garganta-profunda-bien-rico-id-a8wpz]link[/URL]
130 at her place, all inclusive. No anal. Good bbj. Really talkative, she speaks a lot, way too much for me. Body is a 7, face is a 6. I'm really picky, so for you might be more. Small room and small bed. Nice person, student. I didn't come, because after a while she had pain and we didn't stop. It was about midnight and I was the 5th client. I will not return, but for the price she is not bad.
3) Veronica.
[URL=https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/medellin/sensual-dama-de-boca-grande-y-pezones-paraditos-completamente-adicta-al-oral-id-bgt4a]link[/URL]
I had an appointment this morning at 10. I didn't like her. She has a brace on her teeth, the belly is not lean like the in the pictures, and the face doesn't look so good. Paid for the taxi and sent her away. In my opinion 230 is too much for a girl like this.
4) no name.
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[URL=https://www.latinscorts.com/VAGINAL-ANAL-CON-SITIO-AMANECIDAS-24HR-GLUTEOS-GRANDS-3136497549-oral-al-natural/16954]link[/URL]
Different from the pictures, most likely triguena. She was coming for 100 to my place, can't remember precisely. When I saw her, I paid the taxi and I sent her back home. I didn't like her.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2493633]I made it down to COL. Staying with some friends. I tried out the condoms but it was too small so it wouldn't roll all the way down to the base of my Mann shaft. Which brand and make of condom is a larger size. Because the boxes don't really specify the length of the condom.[/QUOTE]My choice is Durex, long thick and also available in flavours.
Met another girl yesterday. She came to my place, we ordered food. She was here for about 3 hours. A lot of talk with a lot of contact, especially from her side. Legs on mine, etc. She didn't let me kiss her. She asked me to recharge her phone, like 2000 COP before she left, which I didn't. She was nice, but she didn't shave her legs in a while. Student. Not a prostitute anyway.
Another girl was willing to accept my offer 100 + taxi for 2 hours. We had a video call. She was with a friend. After the call she accepted the offer, but then she told me to meet the day after. We never met, and she is not answering anymore. She was looking better in the pictures. They all look much better, usually.
For now, Badoo is a waste of time.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2493645]I expected such juicy report from SJobs, but nutting.[/QUOTE]Yeah but really it's important that the Jimmy hat cover the entire Mannshaft. So, although funny, it's actually an important question. Plus, the measurement isn't always on the boxes. What are friends for, anyways?
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2493645]I expected such juicy report from SJobs, but nutting.[/QUOTE]The reports were never real, all fiction by a guy living in the basement of his parents home in Chicago.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2493405]Two things:
1. Devices have serial number like physical identifiers known as Media Access Control (MAC) addresses. They can be used to restrict or track devices. Like anything else they can be forged and hidden but few users bother with that.
2. Unplugging a device can change a device's IP address but it depends on how the network is configured for the so-called "lease period". It can be set for most any value from indefinite to 24 hours, to several days. Administrators normally try to balance convenience with efficient use of resources.
OK, anyone who uses this information owes me a $100 fee. LOL![/QUOTE]Too late. I knew all about MAC addresses 25 years ago as well as IP assignments. Although back then you had to manually assign the IP at the client computer.
That was back when Sandia National Labs decided every employee and contractor required WWW access, but they didn't bother to put out an Acceptable Use Policy first. Their words, and I quote "use your best judgement. " Before I started installing winsock, assigning IPs and downloading Netscape, I warned them they would soon have a huge problem. "Use your best judgement", when policy already says personal use of computers is acceptable during non-compensated hours, means "we can surf for porn at lunch.
2 weeks later the firings began. Nobody got fired in the 3 departments I supported, although one guy got a written reprimand. I was scrambling around, swapping NICs (Network Interface Cards. To change the MAC address), reassigning IPs and in some cases swapping computers. When they came looking, they found the guilty IPs weren't assigned and the MAC addresses were all in old computers waiting to be sent out to the redistribution center.
You guy discussed a lot about fuckin a chaturbate model. Well, I fucked one yesterday. 130 one hour my place. She asked me 170 for 2 hours, but I think she would have slept over for 170. I said no. All inclusive. I didn't ask for anal. Discrete oral, a lot of kisses, good fuck. Face 6, body 6. As always I want to repeat that I'm really picky. Nice girl, student, she also works on chaturbate. She gave me the link but I can't find the paper. She said to me she make more money on chaturbate, but she integrates. She lives with the family, therefore she can't host. She doesn't speak English. She sent me a message this morning to thank me, she clearly wants for me to invite her again, but I will not. But I feel I have to recommend her, because she has a great attitude and she is a really nice person.
The announce was active yesterday but today expired.
[URL]https://co.mundosexanuncio.com/prepagos-y-putas/angelica-universitaria-hermosa-discreta-y-con-clase-1004623[/URL]
So, you can fuck chartubate models, and they are not necessary more expensive than other girls. She works in a studio when camming.
Price is related to the beauty, it's the same in every country. So when people here say me they can get an 80 for 300k a week I laugh, because that is bullshit.
[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2493414]If no kids, hugely doubtful she would be eating your ass.[/QUOTE]You're behind the times. Eating ass is the latest fad. I'm in a twisted US Facebook group of mostly 30 some things and every other post is about eating ass.
Within the next year, most of the Medellin hookers will be eating ass during every blowjob.
Within 2 years they'll be charging extra for it.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2493578]That depends on the sugar daddy more than anything else. It's not complicated, don't send money. Make a deal and consummate it in person only. The less wrapped in the noise you get the less vulnerable you will be to scamming.
Search your phone numbers on the internet to get a feel for how risky it may be to share it.[/QUOTE]Seeking is now a prime target for e- whoring methods. These are computer hackers who use escort or dating sites and create tons of fake profiles to get the guys to send them money and gifts without meeting. Along with real girls who have this motive seeking has become a prime target for these people. There are still some gems out there on Sa. This site is actually different in Colombia because I there are girls who actually seek real relationships from guys with financial security. Few and far between but they are there if you're willing to put the work in.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2493428]Why isn't the question, what exactly is it that they charge that puts them on my list? Must be pretty bad. Read my past reports for how much I've paid girls.
What is bad and what is good? Is it bad to come to an agreement and pay the agreed upon amount?
I'm not going to make any judgements on what you pay. Don't cast your judgements on mine.
Just to let you know, the chica who I ONLY paid 100k the other day whatsapped me today and asked to see me again this weekend. She doesn't seem so upset about it.
100k was her asking price. Not mine.[/QUOTE]There is no bad price. The parties either agree or walk away. If one party feels the other was unreasonable, they tell their friends. The girls use WhatsApp groups. The guys, at least the gringos, use ISG.
I still wonder how can someone can get robbed on La 70, like I read here, not even at night, but during the day. If you get robbed during the day, you are really doing something wrong. I have been walking en el centro for hours and no one touched me. And I'm planning to go after midnight, with just enough money for the taxi, if not any, without my phone, so they will have nothing to rob.
I want to see if it's so dangerous like people say, because I'm sure it's not. They do rob, for sure, but if you don't have anything to rob, they will not rob you anything. During the day there is a LOT of police, and I have spoken with a policeman who told me they are there the entire night. Of course the night is much worse en El Centro, but it's not the Far West.
To be robbed on La 70 you must be dumb, really. There are places in Italy, and not even in the South, much more dangerous than La 70. I never felt unsafe, and I have been walking at 2 AM in the night. I went to la Mayorista at 1 AM.
I think some of you are paranoid, like the one saying you shouldn't give your phone number. LOL, to a Colombian chica. Fact is, you don't know what you are talking about.
Here's some pics for the boys. A creampie and some nice tits.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2493504]This is not a monger. This is a dangerous psycho. He should stay in jail much longer than 2 months.
This is not even BDSM (which I like to some extent, BTW), as he lured poor girls with money and then violated their trust. I am surprised first how is it possible that those girls did not have a friend in their barrios who could teach him the lesson, then also how police had his data, as he was arrested at the airport, but was not able to lcate him in Medellin. I am very curious to read more of this story.[/QUOTE]I do not know for certain, but I believe it was a monger who tipped the police where to find him. I know that some mongers were definitely getting the word out to the girls warning about him.
As for "not a monger", I wish that was true. But to the outside world he is a monger. A group, especially one outside society's norm, is judged by its worst members, not its best.
I'm certain there are guys here who will be upset that a monger turned him in. They think we're all supposed to stick together. Fuck that. If some girl tells me a monger beat her up, I will explain to her the 2 options for making certain he doesn't beat anyone else up.
As Me Phi Me sang long ago "Not my brother, brother."
[QUOTE=Nounce;2493626]I prefer not to chat on SA so I want to move the conversation elsewhere ASAP. Often I just give out the number on the first message to move to WA or text right away. Sometimes it is the girl who hesitates. [/QUOTE]The scammers also want to move the conversation elsewhere ASAP. I do not use SA, but it is the same thing on Cupid. I get tons of those messages everyday mostly from Cuba, Venezuela, and Dominican Republic. In the last couple of weeks I have started receiving them from various African countries. Even got one from the Philippines the other day. This is LATIN Cupid, not African or Asian Cupid. Duh scammer.
There will be an initial copied message, most times saying how they want a serious relationship bla, bla, bla and to contact them on whatsapp. 9 times out of 10 this is a scammer. I won't really say scammer, but it is not a person looking for what they are saying. Most are out to sell pics and videos. Others may be some overpriced agency where you can order girls. Then there are others that are I am sick and need your money ASAP to make me better. There is not anything they can do with your number besides talk about these things off the site so they will not get banned. If they could do something with your number then why would they not just pick any random number to run scams.
I pretty much ignore most of these messages. I do not plan to go to Venezuela or Cuba anytime soon. Wish I could just block messages from these countries. The places that I do plan on going then I will tell them that I do not have whatsapp and I am looking for a lover, not the serious relationship that they want. Remember this is based on them being froggish and blurting out send me a message on whatsapp before saying Hello, or anything else.
The real real scammers will just fall off because there is nothing left for them to do without me having whatsapp. The hookers will keep talking asking what I mean by lovers. They will not let me saying that I don't have whatsapp stop them. I will then trade whatsapp with them and make arangements to see them when I am in town. The true non-pros just carry on regular conversation and you usually have to ask them for their contact info; they do not blurt it out in the first message they send you.
Now for the ones that change location, this is part of scamming too. Some will change location to where a guy is and say they are in the same city or they are coming to that city. Then when he starts showing interest they will run the scam. Location change is just different bait.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2493509]I mean most casas offer 60 k an hour 2 nuts. Some 90 k, some 120 k. There your not providing any extra entertainment they normally receive from you otherwise. Your not paying for taxi. You only pay additionals no condom, anal, cum in the mouth. Who would know the rates better than the casas. Do you go in a supermarket and pay twice as much as you pay for the listed price. Members are just trying to suggest whoa you don't really have to pay that much. I had an 8 charge me 300 k for 7 days after 2 prior session. She only stayed 5 days but hey I still came out a winner. She said look I charge 300 k for sometimes 30 minutes so don't be upset with me. When these girls hear that such a person got Xtra amount. They start asking for that amount. So now communicating, interacting become a hassle. I think that's the point the big spenders, buy pics, and video guys do not understand. You get a flood of girls requesting offers unrelated to actually meeting someone, having sex or deserving of their value..[/QUOTE]Welcome to unbridled capitalism!
Girls will charge what they want to charge. Guys pay what they want to pay.
We could try to enforce a flat rate, but then you're paying the same for a 3 as for an 8. Then you're not getting any girls staying for 3 days and only getting paid for 30 minutes.
If her rates are out of line, tell her what you'll pay, wish her luck and walk away. Almost every time she'll come back with a lower rate. Be nice but firm and you will usually get your price.
"Te entiendo amor. Está bien. Pero quedaré muchos theías acá why siempre pago este. Tal vez podemos hablar un otro día."
"I understand you, love. It's okay. But I will stay here many days and this is what I always pay. Maybe we can talk another day. ".
If she's actively looking for money she'll probably drop her price. If not, she'll hit you up when the cupboards are bare.
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2493553]I was getting lots of requests to send my number so we could 'talk' jaja yea right. Never give your number. Also look out for the girl you communicating with changing her city frequently. A real warning to stay away.
They can do lots with your phone number, NEVER give a girl your number, especially here in the states.[/QUOTE]Usually the phone number request is to move you to some other platform, such as Google Hangouts. They are limited on the scamming they can do on SA or whichever site.
However, with some websites, they can spoof your number then submit a change password request, provided they have your user ID. Mostly sites are using your email to notify you if anyone changes info in your account.
[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2493621]I keep an anonymous cheap walmart tracfone at my home and pay about $100 per year for service. Actually I use it to monitor a security system and my furnace settings but I also use it for my whatsapp number. I have no hesitation to give out my whatsapp number to anyone. If they call the number they will learn the temperature in my home LOL.[/QUOTE]Laugh now! But just wait until someone hacks in and you wake up in the morning with frozen nuts.
Also be careful with girls who just post 1 or 2 pictures. Sometimes a person can look really good or completely different in a picture than what they really look like. So it's always best to ask for more pictures particularly ordinary everyday pictures To be able to see who a person is.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2493685]Also be careful with girls who just post 1 or 2 pictures. Sometimes a person can look really good or completely different in a picture than what they really look like. So it's always best to ask for more pictures particularly ordinary everyday pictures To be able to see who a person is.[/QUOTE]Wednesday I had my last meeting in MTY. Pictures were great I was real excited. Very tall, but she could have been a linebacker. She was huge. Video chat is always a good idea.
DUO is about the largest generally available. You can find Durex comfort if you shop around a lot. I always stock up on condoms and shoes to bring back. Shoe size 48 (US 13) is considered freakishly big in Colombia.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2493633]I made it down to COL. Staying with some friends. I tried out the condoms but it was too small so it wouldn't roll all the way down to the base of my Mann shaft. Which brand and make of condom is a larger size. Because the boxes don't really specify the length of the condom.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2493394]I'm not sure what makes Facebook too annoying, especially if price really isn't an issue.
It's a simple process. While you're waiting for your trip, start building a list of chicas on Facebook. You can spend 10-15 minutes a day adding to your list. Unless you are starting your trip in the next 2 weeks, you can easily have 100-200 contacts before you go to the airport.
No need to send any messages or get into any involved conversation until about a week before your trip. Any girl that messages you, keep it simple. If they do message you it will probably be something like "Hola, Como ests" (Hello, how are you?)
You can reply with "Bien. Why tu? Estar en Medellin pronto why quiero verte." (I'm good. How are you? I will be in Medellin soon and want to see you.).
You can add in a few more pleasantries, but there's no need to get too involved. Later on you can talk price and details. My negotiation tactic is simple. If she quotes higher than I want to pay I respond with "Siempre pago. " Followed by my price (I always pay). Other people go back and forth over price. Your choice.
Then it's just a matter of day and time once you arrive.
Most Facebook girls seem happy to stay 2 or more hours and most, in my experience give full GFE. I've rarely had problems getting GFE and BBBJ and never paid extra for either.
To me, there are some advantages to Facebook..[/QUOTE]I just dislike using Facebook mostly. I usually avoid social media. I'll take your advice though. I'm visiting Medellin next month starting thanksgiving. I started trying to add girls. I'm only doing five a day. See if any accept. I only threw up one pic. I think the thing about Facebook is that it's awkward cause you really don't know these people and I'm never sure if they're working. So I'm basically randomly adding girls that are attractive. At least it feels that way.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2493680]Usually the phone number request is to move you to some other platform, such as Google Hangouts. They are limited on the scamming they can do on SA or whichever site.
However, with some websites, they can spoof your number then submit a change password request, provided they have your user ID. Mostly sites are using your email to notify you if anyone changes info in your account.[/QUOTE]Just get a virtual number like textnow linked to a throwaway email. Use that number for all your down low activities, use a fake name.
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2493670]I still wonder how can someone can get robbed on La 70, like I read here, not even at night, but during the day. If you get robbed during the day, you are really doing something wrong. I have been walking en el centro for hours and no one touched me. And I'm planning to go after midnight, with just enough money for the taxi, if not any, without my phone, so they will have nothing to rob.
I want to see if it's so dangerous like people say, because I'm sure it's not. They do rob, for sure, but if you don't have anything to rob, they will not rob you anything. During the day there is a LOT of police, and I have spoken with a policeman who told me they are there the entire night. Of course the night is much worse en El Centro, but it's not the Far West.
To be robbed on La 70 you must be dumb, really. There are places in Italy, and not even in the South, much more dangerous than La 70. I never felt unsafe, and I have been walking at 2 AM in the night. I went to la Mayorista at 1 AM.
I think some of you are paranoid, like the one saying you shouldn't give your phone number. LOL, to a Colombian chica. Fact is, you don't know what you are talking about.[/QUOTE]I've walked on 70 at lots of different hours. Never was robbed. But I can see that it could happen. I don't particularly feel unsafe there as there are usually lots of people around, even into the early morning, but still, it's very possible. I saw a guy chasing another guy with a machete in the middle of the day in with lots of police and people around. An off duty army guy took it on. And sorted it out.
As far as downtown, I've been there after the metro shuts down and all the visible police leave. That was not fun. Zombie land. Everyone is a target at that time of night unless you are a zombie too. In which case you are probably still a target.
You can get robbed anywhere. A gun in your ribs, a knife at your throat. Even in the best parts of the city. I know people that have had it happen. And know of one that died trying to defend his "stuff". On Poblado Avenue in broad daylight.
It's not about being paranoid, it is about being careful and not trying to be a hero if you have an alternative.
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2493670]I still wonder how can someone can get robbed on La 70, like I read here, not even at night, but during the day. If you get robbed during the day, you are really doing something wrong. I have been walking en el centro for hours and no one touched me. And I'm planning to go after midnight, with just enough money for the taxi, if not any, without my phone, so they will have nothing to rob.
I want to see if it's so dangerous like people say, because I'm sure it's not. They do rob, for sure, but if you don't have anything to rob, they will not rob you anything. During the day there is a LOT of police, and I have spoken with a policeman who told me they are there the entire night. Of course the night is much worse en El Centro, but it's not the Far West.
To be robbed on La 70 you must be dumb, really. There are places in Italy, and not even in the South, much more dangerous than La 70. I never felt unsafe, and I have been walking at 2 AM in the night. I went to la Mayorista at 1 AM.
I think some of you are paranoid, like the one saying you shouldn't give your phone number. LOL, to a Colombian chica. Fact is, you don't know what you are talking about.[/QUOTE]Your post begs the question how will a thief know whether you have anything of value on you unless they confront / assault you and go thru your pockets.
And cruising around EL Centro after midnight is not a good idea. Just hang around the Veracruz Church at that time and you will see what happens to you, and it won't be pleasant.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2493695]DUO is about the largest generally available. You can find Durex comfort if you shop around a lot. I always stock up on condoms and shoes to bring back. Shoe size 48 (US 13) is considered freakishly big in Colombia.[/QUOTE]Shoe size 13 literally doesn't exist let alone size 12 for that matter in Colombia unless your at a specialty store with higher priced shoes. I needed to buy some waterproof size 12 hiking boots and had to go to a CAT store in a mall to find size 12. As far as condoms, well good advice to bring them with you as the larger sizes like Trojan Magnums aren't sold anywhere that I'm aware of.
The location of your home would not be difficult to discover via that number. That doesn't necessarily matter but we all need to aware.
[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2493621]I keep an anonymous cheap walmart tracfone at my home and pay about $100 per year for service. Actually I use it to monitor a security system and my furnace settings but I also use it for my whatsapp number. I have no hesitation to give out my whatsapp number to anyone. If they call the number they will learn the temperature in my home LOL.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2493670]I think some of you are paranoid, like the one saying you shouldn't give your phone number. LOL, to a Colombian chica. Fact is, you don't know what you are talking about.[/QUOTE]I have seen people using Telegram over whatsapp because supposedly it is more secure. Skype has a built in translation feature which is nice, and you can use it to get a different phone number or you could use google voice if you want.
But I have never done it and I do not know why I would. I guess if you are married something could be done, but yeah, I do not get the paranoia either.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2493676]The scammers also want to move the conversation elsewhere ASAP. I do not use SA, but it is the same thing on Cupid. [/QUOTE]SD has to pay in order to message on SA but it is free for SB to message so most scammers are SBs. I also don't reply to messages initiated by SBs and that pretty much filters out most of the scammers. I don't always send my number on first message. I do it sometimes when I am lazy and I don't think it is effective either.
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2493721]I've walked on 70 at lots of different hours. Never was robbed. But I can see that it could happen. I don't particularly feel unsafe there as there are usually lots of people around, even into the early morning, but still, it's very possible. I saw a guy chasing another guy with a machete in the middle of the day in with lots of police and people around. An off duty army guy took it on. And sorted it out.[/QUOTE]It's a percentage game. It does not mean one definitely will get robbed. It is just the percentage of being robbed is higher. The bad guys can work as a team and move around in busy places so it is not that easy to spot until you become a target. They come, they find a target, then they move on to another place.
100% completely baseless n false story. Where's the article on this arrest, or did you hear it from some chica? I know the person who this in reference too. He is collecting info to potentially file a lawsuit against the person, quite possibly a member on this board, whose spreading these false rumors. You should not be spreading these false accusations, unless you can provide details like a link to the arrest.
Take Care, and Be Safe!
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2493331]Apparently, a monger known to frequent Medellin was arrested at the Bogota airport on Tuesday. His passport was confiscated and he will spend 2 months in jail before being deported. He will not be allowed to return for 5 years.
Allegedly this guy liked to tie up hookers and beat them. All good, up to a point. However, he beat them bloody and at least one ended up in the hospital.
There was someone a few months back talking about beating up hookers if they gave him any problems. It would appear that's not a good idea.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Judd;2493748]Where's the article on this arrest, or did you hear it from some chica? I know the person who this in reference too. I'm not going to.
Discuss the details, but just simply say this is BS, and 100% completely fabricated. You should not be spreading these false accusations, unless you can provide details like a link to the arrest.
Take Care, and Be Safe![/QUOTE]Guy, gets 2 months in jail for beating up a girl likely won't make it to the newspaper buddy.
[QUOTE=Judd;2493748]100% completely baseless n false story. Where's the article on this arrest, or did you hear it from some chica? I know the person who this in reference too. He is collecting info to potentially file a lawsuit against the person, quite possibly a member on this board, whose spreading these false rumors. You should not be spreading these false accusations, unless you can provide details like a link to the arrest.
Take Care, and Be Safe![/QUOTE]1. I am not spreading any false rumors. The language I used clearly indicates I am sharing something I heard.
2. Nothing in my report, or the follow up reports can in any way be used to identify the alleged perpetrator, unless he has been arrested and there is a news story about it.
3. The report serves a purpose to warn people about the sort of behavior your friend allegedly enjoys.
If you or anyone else feels that warning mongers against committing acts of violence in Medellin is wrong, so be it. I will not budge from my belief that mongering should be safe for all parties.
As for the lawsuit, I would love to ne in the courtroom to hear that one.
"Your honor, my client engages with prostitutes."
"Counselor, could you repeat that?
"Your honor, my client engages with prostitutes in Colombia."
"In Colombia?
"Yes your honor. The country in South America. And the defendant has said things which were harmful to my client's reputation."
"You mean more harmful than admitting, on record, he travels to Colombia to pay for sex with prostitutes?
"Umm. Yes your honor."
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2493670]I still wonder how can someone can get robbed on La 70[/QUOTE]Which post? That area is generally fine. I don't recall people saying it is dangerous to not go there.
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2493670]I still wonder how can someone can get robbed on La 70, like I read here, not even at night, but during the day. If you get robbed during the day, you are really doing something wrong. I have been walking en el centro for hours and no one touched me. And I'm planning to go after midnight, with just enough money for the taxi, if not any, without my phone, so they will have nothing to rob.
I want to see if it's so dangerous like people say, because I'm sure it's not. They do rob, for sure, but if you don't have anything to rob, they will not rob you anything. During the day there is a LOT of police, and I have spoken with a policeman who told me they are there the entire night. Of course the night is much worse en El Centro, but it's not the Far West.
To be robbed on La 70 you must be dumb, really. There are places in Italy, and not even in the South, much more dangerous than La 70. I never felt unsafe, and I have been walking at 2 AM in the night. I went to la Mayorista at 1 AM.
I think some of you are paranoid, like the one saying you shouldn't give your phone number. LOL, to a Colombian chica. Fact is, you don't know what you are talking about.[/QUOTE]I've walked all over La 70 and the surrounding streets at all hours. 3 times I saw potential problems, all involving the same guy, twice during the day. I had 3 guys attempt to rob me in El Centro, in the middle of a crowd in broad daylight. I saw 2 guys rob and beat a guy one night next to the Veracruz church.
No place is dangerous, until suddenly it is.
Going to walk around El Centro after midnight, with nothing to steal sounds like a good idea, if you're wanting to rate the Colombian healthcare system. You may need to rate it posthumously.
The flaw in your plan is the thieves don't know whether you have nothing to steal, or you're not giving them what they want. However, since you're obviously not a resident of El Centro, it seems unlikely they'll believe you have nothing. From about every report I've heard, including one from a girl I know in Milagro, when people refuse to give money, they get stabbed or shot.
As for the police, after about 9, they become scarce in El Centro.
Let us know how your experiment works out, or we can read about it elsewhere.
I think anytime an American violates the law in a Foreign Country where a police report is filed, and it's a very violent act that results in a person going to the hospital, the local newspaper would pickup that story.
Thanks,
[QUOTE=GringoTrooper;2493749]Guy, gets 2 months in jail for beating up a girl likely won't make it to the newspaper buddy.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Judd;2493748]100% completely baseless n false story. Where's the article on this arrest, or did you hear it from some chica? I know the person who this in reference too. He is collecting info to potentially file a lawsuit against the person, quite possibly a member on this board, whose spreading these false rumors. You should not be spreading these false accusations, unless you can provide details like a link to the arrest.
Take Care, and Be Safe![/QUOTE]Might be a BS story but what court is going to give someone standing for a story on a monger board from anonymous sources in which they were never named? Anyways treat those girls good until I can get there.
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[QUOTE=Surfer500;2493726]As far as condoms, well good advice to bring them with you as the larger sizes like Trojan Magnums aren't sold anywhere that I'm aware of.[/QUOTE]Magnums are sold at those sex shops but cost more than the pussy you are putting it in if you are downtown.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2493668]Seeking is now a prime target for e- whoring methods. These are computer hackers who use escort or dating sites and create tons of fake profiles to get the guys to send them money and gifts without meeting.............[/QUOTE]People who give money and gifts do so because it makes them feel good, I know people like this.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2493675]I do not know for certain, but I believe it was a monger who tipped the police where to find him. I know that some mongers were definitely getting the word out to the girls warning about him.
As for "not a monger", I wish that was true. But to the outside world he is a monger. A group, especially one outside society's norm, is judged by its worst members, not its best.
I'm certain there are guys here who will be upset that a monger turned him in. They think we're all supposed to stick together. Fuck that. If some girl tells me a monger beat her up, I will explain to her the 2 options for making certain he doesn't beat anyone else up.
As Me Phi Me sang long ago "Not my brother, brother."[/QUOTE]So if some girl goes crying to you about something on another monger you have no evidence of. You'd at the drop of the hat go hurt another monger or ruin his life? 'Fuck that' everyone stay away from this simp guys.
I just tried using my Schwab card at Banco Pichincha and it reported transaction not allowed. So far, it has not taken money from my account. I will try a couple of other banks later today and report whether success / failure.
Hey there! I've read a lot but still need a little info before I book a flight! Ha! I'm 40 why. O white guy looking to monger safely.
I don't speak Spanish. Does Colombia become a no-go without the language?
How dangerous is Medellin? I've been in many many countries but S. America seems a different beast! Is it possible to walk around during the day, maybe visit a casa, and have a 99% chance of getting home safe?
Are Colombian girls a little kinkier than most? Maybe a little BDSM. A little face-fucking. Is this possible here?
Is it safe enough to travel around the country? I'd love to take a bus over to the coast, maybe head over the border North. Am I going to have a problem?
What do girls think about taking videos / photos? No problem?
How much do I need to check for scammers? Is it likely to find a 'good girl' on FB or Tinder or whatever, without having to screen them a lot?
Looks like a lot of fun. Can't wait to get involved!
[QUOTE=Judd;2493775]I think anytime an American violates the law in a Foreign Country where a police report is filed, and it's a very violent act that results in a person going to the hospital, the local newspaper would pickup that story.
Thanks,[/QUOTE]If the victim of the alleged attack was a bank teller in Poblado or Usaquen, it would definitely be reported. A hooker? Not necessarily.
It's been brought to my attention the story may not be true. However, the moral of the story is valid. If you decide to beat up a hooker, bad things may come your way and your only hope is that the trouble comes wearing badges.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2493852]People who give money and gifts do so because it makes them feel good, I know people like this.[/QUOTE]Nearly everything people do, good or bad, they do because it makes them feel good. When you get a girl to come over for a great rate, you feel good. The guy who scores a $110 round trip on Spirit, then gets bumped for a $300 voucher and a ticket on the next flight might feel good, or bad depending on what he values more. It's all tied up in the values of each person.
I met another young shy woman on seeking chat. She wants someone to take her on a date, and then she'll make up her mind if she wants to get intimite.
She doesn't have the personality nor the looks to impose conditions, but she expects to get paid to go get pizza, and then she will still have the option to turn him down, after he already made an investment.
She should think things through before asking. I told her come to the bakery 5 minutes away from my place ( she can travel across the city, not me) buy yourself a juice and if you want to be my friend you can do that. of course she's paying her own taxi and her own juice. Duuumbooo.
Ahhh let the silly women be silly women.
[QUOTE=IguanaSix;2493889]What would you say if I told you the story was completely made up?[/QUOTE]I would say the guy should tell his side of the story. I'm certainly willing to give him an unbiased (reasonably) hearing.
I would also say, again my focus on reporting the incident (with no identifying details) was to discourage the type of behavior the guy has been (perhaps falsely) accused of.
[QUOTE=Villainy;2493537]I can only vouch for the first one. Erika Munos. I first saw her a few times a couple years back. Saw her again about two months ago. Very thin not a lot of baby damage. Friendly girl and you'll have a good time.
I wouldn't call her a super star performer but I would bet you'll be satisfied with your cita.[/QUOTE]Excellent thanks. Can you say what she charges? What she does or doesn't do?
She strikes me as the girl next door type.
TR.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2493895]I met another young shy woman on seeking chat. She wants someone to take her on a date, and then she'll make up her mind if she wants to get intimite.
She doesn't have the personality nor the looks to impose conditions, but she expects to get paid to go get pizza, and then she will still have the option to turn him down, after he already made an investment.
She should think things through before asking. I told her come to the bakery 5 minutes away from my place buy yourself a juice and if you want to be my friend you can do that. of course she's paying her own taxi and her own juice. Duuumbooo.
Ahhh let the silly women be silly women.[/QUOTE]That may be why so many use Facebook.
Hello. Are you available? I want to see you. How much do you want? I pay (whatever price you want). Is that okay? Yes I will give you 20 k for a taxi. Can you be here in 1 hour? Okay. I will see you in 2 hours.
(Hola. Estás disponible? Quiero verte. Cuanto quieres por un rato? Siempre pago (whatever). Está bien? Sí te daré 20 mil mas por un taxi. Puedes llegar acá en una hora? Claro. Entonces te veré en 2 horas.).
She'll show up, probably want to use the bathroom to freshen up, might come out in lingerie or just underwear. In less than 15 minutes she will be doing what you want. If she's enjoying your company she'll still be doing what you want 2 or 3 hours later. When she's done, give her the money and walk her to the door.
Tomorrow she'll send pictures of her friend and ask if you want a trio.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2493765]Which post? That area is generally fine. I don't recall people saying it is dangerous to not go there.[/QUOTE]If you do a search on the forum, you'll find the posts.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2493926]Simplier said than done given some of the Fayboo tales that other board members have posted.[/QUOTE]I have had no problem building a list on FB. Just need to get the first few started, then the gates will open. They will be sending you friend requests.
I started a new FB account 3 days ago and have over 200 contacts.
Find the gringos with lists, or chicas that have a lot of likes / comments from gringos.
Super easy.
TR.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2493769]I've walked all over La 70 and the surrounding streets at all hours. 3 times I saw potential problems, all involving the same guy, twice during the day. I had 3 guys attempt to rob me in El Centro, in the middle of a crowd in broad daylight. I saw 2 guys rob and beat a guy one night next to the Veracruz church.
No place is dangerous, until suddenly it is.
Going to walk around El Centro after midnight, with nothing to steal sounds like a good idea, if you're wanting to rate the Colombian healthcare system. You may need to rate it posthumously.
The flaw in your plan is the thieves don't know whether you have nothing to steal, or you're not giving them what they want. However, since you're obviously not a resident of El Centro, it seems unlikely they'll believe you have nothing. From about every report I've heard, including one from a girl I know in Milagro, when people refuse to give money, they get stabbed or shot.
As for the police, after about 9, they become scarce in El Centro.
Let us know how your experiment works out, or we can read about it elsewhere.[/QUOTE]If you have nothing with you, you have nothing. They can search you. You give them what you have. 50k for example, without any resistance, you show your pockets are empty and it's over. If you go there with your phone and 1 million, then they will pretend your phone and 1 million, but if you have 20 k for the taxi, they will take what you have. Or you think they are gone to cut in half and search if you have some money in your belly? Yesterday I didn't have my phone with me, and I was there with almost no cash. I was there in the dark, from 6 to 8:30. No one touched me. I tell you more, I was feeling more secure than in the afternoon, because less people, greater distance, I was much more in control. One guy approached me, he followed me for a 10/20 seconds, till I said him to fuck off. I never let him closer than 2 meters from me. I doubt the junkies of el centro have guns. Cartel has guns, not the junkies in el centro. If they had one, they would have sold to buy drugs. The risk to get robbed is real, but who gives a fuck if they still me 50000 COP, I don't really mind. You all speak about Medellin like you can't go out after 6, which is bullshit.
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2493935]If you do a search on the forum, you'll find the posts.[/QUOTE]Robbery can happen almost anywhere. I guess you are generalizing a specific case as the norm.
I am traveling to Medellin on Wednesday. So I did not want to deal with the drama of having a COVID test that was sent out to a lab. Having to hope I get the results back in time. So I managed to find a CVS in Orlando (about 45 minutes away) that had the rapid molecular test. I called the COVID 19 hotline for CVS and they assumed me if is a PCR test, not an antigen test. So I went and got my test today and 15 minutes later I was told I was negative. However, when I looked at the results that were sent to me, it described a "MOLECULAR POCT" test. From my understanding, a PCR test is a molecular test. But since the results says "POCT" and not "PCR" I suspect that the test will not be accepted. So, I've made another appointment with CVS for the PCR test that goes to the lab and once again I'll be waiting to see if I get my results in time. Very frustrating. What I've found is that most of the folks who give these tests are not very knowledgeable (and the web pages do not always give you clear information). So you really have to pay attention. Ugh.
[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2493965]I am traveling to Medellin on Wednesday. So I did not want to deal with the drama of having a COVID test that was sent out to a lab. Having to hope I get the results back in time. So I managed to find a CVS in Orlando (about 45 minutes away) that had the rapid molecular test. I called the COVID 19 hotline for CVS and they assumed me if is a PCR test, not an antigen test. So I went and got my test today and 15 minutes later I was told I was negative. However, when I looked at the results that were sent to me, it described a "MOLECULAR POCT" test. From my understanding, a PCR test is a molecular test. But since the results says "POCT" and not "PCR" I suspect that the test will not be accepted. So, I've made another appointment with CVS for the PCR test that goes to the lab and once again I'll be waiting to see if I get my results in time. Very frustrating. What I've found is that most of the folks who give these tests are not very knowledgeable (and the web pages do not always give you clear information). So you really have to pay attention. Ugh.[/QUOTE]Excellent advice as in Southern California while researching places offering the PCR test, hidden in the fine print of one lab was what you described not being the true PCR test performed in a lab that Colombia is looking for. Found a place that if your tested by 8 AM in the morning they will have same day results and it's called the Molecular PCR Nasopharyngeal Swab at a cost of $275 USD for same day results.
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2493935]If you do a search on the forum, you'll find the posts.[/QUOTE]Here are the official stats on robberies, a person is 3 times as likely to get robbed in El Centro as they are in Laureles or Poblado but that does not mean you are exempt in Laureles or Poblado it just means it is less likely to happen there. The most likely way is as described in this article and that has been described in posts here in this forum, It is by the passenger of a motorcycle. I think they actually have term for these guys in Colombia but I cannot remember what it is. Looking at just Laureles and Poblado the stats average out to be like 5 per day that means 15 per day in El centro on the average - so like Nounce said robbery can happen anywhere -
[URL]https://medellinguru.com/medellin-robbery/[/URL]
According to this other article the motorcycle rider thing started as a means for hitman (a method that is still around) of the Escobar cartel (it also says that the person who thought of it was eventually assassinated in the same way) so that it would be easier to evade the police through traffic, but also robbers caught on to this method, In 2014 Medellin even passed an ordinance banning male passengers of certain age group on the back of motorcycles. "motorcycle assassinations decreased by 39 percent, Robberies of cars and of motorcycles by motorcycle riders each fell by nearly 30 percent. " I do not know if that law is still in effect.
[URL]https://www.insightcrime.org/news/brief/medellin-ban-male-motorcycle-passengers-hitmen/[/URL]
[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2493965]I am traveling to Medellin on Wednesday. So I did not want to deal with the drama of having a COVID test that was sent out to a lab. Having to hope I get the results back in time. So I managed to find a CVS in Orlando (about 45 minutes away) that had the rapid molecular test. I called the COVID 19 hotline for CVS and they assumed me if is a PCR test, not an antigen test. So I went and got my test today and 15 minutes later I was told I was negative. However, when I looked at the results that were sent to me, it described a "MOLECULAR POCT" test. From my understanding, a PCR test is a molecular test. But since the results says "POCT" and not "PCR" I suspect that the test will not be accepted. So, I've made another appointment with CVS for the PCR test that goes to the lab and once again I'll be waiting to see if I get my results in time. Very frustrating. What I've found is that most of the folks who give these tests are not very knowledgeable (and the web pages do not always give you clear information). So you really have to pay attention. Ugh.[/QUOTE]You might get rejected. They don't know what a POCT is, and they aren't going to Google. Your test must be the PCR ones. And also it has to be not older than 96 hours. Also you don't want to explain what is a POCT, because probably you don't even know, and they don't care. Regulation says PCR, and PCR needs to be.
[QUOTE=Harry2;2493871]
How dangerous is Medellin? I've been in many many countries but S. America seems a different beast! Is it possible to walk around during the day, maybe visit a casa, and have a 99% chance of getting home safe?
[/QUOTE]It depends. Most locals they say they Stay safe because they don't wander around streets where there are druggies and cheap hoes. Stay in a safe neighborhood. If you visit massage parlor take the taxi walk from the taxi into the Establishment call taxi exit establishment and jump in the taxi. Research on YouTube as there is a worldwide phenomenon where Criminals slip substance into thee mongers drink. So just be aware and don't let anyone do that. Don't walk around with expensive cell phone. Just use an 80 euro android. For those concerned about the escorts, try to find some escorts that ccome from a bettter background and already have a little bit of money.Find an establishment with A reputation or get some recommendations of girls from friend.
[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2493986]Here are the official stats on robberies, a person is 3 times as likely to get robbed in El Centro as they are in Laureles or Poblado but that does not mean you are exempt in Laureles or Poblado it just means it is less likely to happen there. The most likely way is as described in this article and that has been described in posts here in this forum, It is by the passenger of a motorcycle. I think they actually have term for these guys in Colombia but I cannot remember what it is. Looking at just Laureles and Poblado the stats average out to be like 5 per day that means 15 per day in El centro on the average - so like Nounce said robbery can happen anywhere -
[URL]https://medellinguru.com/medellin-robbery/[/URL][/QUOTE]I read the article. But I also read this:
"Jeff is the founder and editor-in-chief of Medellin Guru. He first discovered Colombia back in 2006 and has traveled to all the major cities in Colombia. Jeff is fortunate to have lived over eight years in Medellín."
He has been robbed once in 8 years! I mean, statistically it's nothing really. A friend of mine in Turin has been robbed 3 times at the station by junkies using a syringe. 3 times in 2 years. Watching at the data the probability to get robbed in Laureles is really low. I'm sure it's much easier to get robbed en el centro at night. During the day there is so much police. I mean today I have seen at least 20 soldiers with automatic rifles.
And, look at him, he is a the perfect target. You can see he is a gringo from 1 km, and you know he will not do any resistance. Robberies happen all the time in all the big cities. You can't be safe in New York, London or Paris.
There were over 40 thousand robbery offences recorded by the Metropolitan Police in London in 2019/20, an increase of almost six thousand when compared with the previous year, and a peak for this type of offence in the provided time period. Did you read? 40 thousands. Yes, London is bit, but it's still much more than in Medellin with all the neighborhoods combined. In Laureles it happens not even 1. 5 times a day. Why it should be me? Most likely is going to be a monger from USA or Canada, with blue eyes, in his 60.
My point is: play smart. Leave the wallet at home, you don't need it. Leave the passport and any other ID at home. Keep your phone in the front pocket, and bring yourself the credit card only when you need it to get money from the ATM. Otherwise use Apple Pay or Google Pay, which here don't even know what is, but it works. Also, if you are going to el centro don't go with your phone, they are going to pickpocket you easily. Bring just the money for a fuck or two, and the taxi. If they rob you, you lose 30 dollars, which is not a big deal.
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2493944]If you have nothing with you, you have nothing. They can search you. You give them what you have. 50k for example, without any resistance, you show your pockets are empty and it's over. If you go there with your phone and 1 million, then they will pretend your phone and 1 million, but if you have 20 k for the taxi, they will take what you have. Or you think they are gone to cut in half and search if you have some money in your belly? Yesterday I didn't have my phone with me, and I was there with almost no cash. I was there in the dark, from 6 to 8:30. No one touched me. I tell you more, I was feeling more secure than in the afternoon, because less people, greater distance, I was much more in control. One guy approached me, he followed me for a 10/20 seconds, till I said him to fuck off. I never let him closer than 2 meters from me. I doubt the junkies of el centro have guns. Cartel has guns, not the junkies in el centro. If they had one, they would have sold to buy drugs. The risk to get robbed is real, but who gives a fuck if they still me 50000 COP, I don't really mind. You all speak about Medellin like you can't go out after 6, which is bullshit.[/QUOTE]LOL. You can go out after 6, and that's not what he's talking about. You won't necessarily get a chance to show them your pockets or have a discussion about what you have or don't have. That can be anywhere. And people get robbed and killed for nothing some of the time. It isn't the junkies you have to worry about, it's the criminals. And there are lots, and lots of guns too.
I saw a map once of the street gangs, and the higher level gangs that control the street gangs. For Medellin. There were hundreds of street level gangs, and a number of higher level organizations they may have to answer to. They don't generally want wars. That gets too much attention, as in the past with Escobar, etc. But one offs are not a problem. You don't want to be one of those. You tell someone to f off. Maybe they understand you maybe they don't. But they get the picture. But you do that to the wrong one. You're dead. They don't have any problem at all with that.
In a city where you can hire a hit man for much less than $100 US it's not all safe and secure.
Went down to el centro tonight. First went to Barra Executiva not packed. A good ratio of girls to guys maybe 15 girls and 20 or so guys. The girls were mostly 6's and 7's and not really shaped the right way for me. Too much ass on most of these girls. There was 1 girl who had a great bottle shaped body. She wore white jeans and a floral top which bared her midriff. She must have noticed me staring at her. As she passed by me she caressed my arm and then took position not far behind and to the left of me. I turned around and asked motioned for her to approach. She said her name was claudia. Unfortunately as she got closer, I got a better look at her face which revealed that she was much older than I originally thought. I would guess she was mid 30's at least. But her body still looked good. I asked her how old she was, and she replied how old do you want me to be. In my head, I thought to myself. About 15 years younger than you are. I laughed at her response and asked her how much it was to go upstairs. She quoted me 120 k. A little steep for for her and for any of the girls really.
I saw 3 obvious gringos there besides myself. 2 Black americans and 1 White guy. So foreigners are flowing back in!
I left after about 25 minutes as the dancing just wasn't doing it for me and none of the girls interested me. Walked about 150 yards over to Conejitas Grill Show. The place was packed. I couldn't even find an empty table although the waiter assured me there was a place to sit. I just took a read of the place before leaving. There must have been max 10 girls and at least 50 guys and more guys coming in. Not a good ratio. The quality of the girls was noticibly better than Barra Executiva though. I saw some mid 7's. No one stunning but some that I would do. I only spent a couple minutes there. I'll have to come back on a less busy night.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2494007]It depends. Most locals they say they Stay safe because they don't wander around streets where there are druggies and cheap hoes. Stay in a safe neighborhood. If you visit massage parlor take the taxi walk from the taxi into the Establishment call taxi exit establishment and jump in the taxi. Research on YouTube as there is a worldwide phenomenon where Criminals slip substance into thee mongers drink. So just be aware and don't let anyone do that. Don't walk around with expensive cell phone. Just use an 80 euro android. For those concerned about the escorts, try to find some escorts that ccome from a bettter background and already have a little bit of money.Find an establishment with A reputation or get some recommendations of girls from friend.[/QUOTE]My 80 Euro Android wasn't even working. It has been a pain, a waste of money and time to configure. I'm not using anymore. I just leave my expensive phone at home when I go to el centro because I don't need it. And when you get used to the neighborhood you can leave the phone at home all the time. Just be careful and always on alert, but go where you want, that's my advice.
How much do you offer on Facebook, and usually, based on the level, how much do they accept?
Badoo didn't work at all. Few matches and girls most interested in something real than sex. The only real interesting contact I had it's not in Medellin. Waste of time. In Facebook, in a couple of hours I connected with 15 girls. I added a lot of girls, so I suppose by tomorrow I might have 50 contacts. Many are hot girls, some really hot. I started from a plastic surgeon page, then once I got friend with an hot chica, I added her girlfriends. I contacted one for test (not hot and in her 30), offered 50 for 2 hours and she asked for 100, oral natural. It looks way too much. I got a deal with a girl I met en el centro which I fucked today: 140 for the entire day. I would define this girl 7.5.
Usually what do you offer for 8, 9, 10 levels?
I wouldn't ask for a 7, because you can find a 7 en el centro. You need to search very well, do a test drive, and eventually make the offer.
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2494025] You won't necessarily get a chance to show them your pockets or have a discussion about what you have or don't have.[/QUOTE]It's amazing how many people assume that robberies must come down that way, face to face with some kind of discussion. They might just whip his ass, rifle his pockets, pull off his shoes and his socks, and if nothing, kick him in the head for good measure as they have to go find another victim. Some people should have their passports detained for their own protection.
Laureles is casa and private apartment heavens. Being a cheapy charlie and into fitness I chose to walk rather than take a cab. Never once felt threaten. From la 70 to la 80 into LOS colores, estadio area. By the way remember those locations. Guess what, often I wore shorts, a hat, white shoes LOL. Members don't recommend LOL. I did not walk around at night time though. Then I suggest a cab cause its so damn cheap. Centro is not my cup of tea. But really its just an ordinary busy central business district. Whats noticeable is the grimey and disgusting prostitutes mixed up with the harden hookers forced into prostituting or there because of drugs and desperation. Walking there occasionally in day time is not bad but I don't see it as a go to spot. I am actually shocked by guys who glow about the area. Having said this I do want to check out the strip clubs in centro just to say I experienced it. Medellin is cupcake city to me. Sweet and safe
[QUOTE=Frank11;2494007]It depends. Most locals they say they Stay safe because they don't wander around streets where there are druggies and cheap hoes. Stay in a safe neighborhood. If you visit massage parlor take the taxi walk from the taxi into the Establishment call taxi exit establishment and jump in the taxi. Research on YouTube as there is a worldwide phenomenon where Criminals slip substance into thee mongers drink. So just be aware and don't let anyone do that. Don't walk around with expensive cell phone. Just use an 80 euro android. For those concerned about the escorts, try to find some escorts that ccome from a bettter background and already have a little bit of money.Find an establishment with A reputation or get some recommendations of girls from friend.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2493965]I am traveling to Medellin on Wednesday. So I did not want to deal with the drama of having a COVID test that was sent out to a lab. Having to hope I get the results back in time. So I managed to find a CVS in Orlando (about 45 minutes away) that had the rapid molecular test. I called the COVID 19 hotline for CVS and they assumed me if is a PCR test, not an antigen test. So I went and got my test today and 15 minutes later I was told I was negative. However, when I looked at the results that were sent to me, it described a "MOLECULAR POCT" test. From my understanding, a PCR test is a molecular test. But since the results says "POCT" and not "PCR" I suspect that the test will not be accepted. So, I've made another appointment with CVS for the PCR test that goes to the lab and once again I'll be waiting to see if I get my results in time. Very frustrating. What I've found is that most of the folks who give these tests are not very knowledgeable (and the web pages do not always give you clear information). So you really have to pay attention. Ugh.[/QUOTE]I have been to Colombia many times. Always as easy as pie to do the trip.
Now you have to jump thru hoops to go there plus endue stress to hope your test gets to you on time and the form is correct. The cost of this test is almost as much as the airfare RT from Miami.
After that places you used to go to are closed or cut in half.
I jumped thru hoops when I was drafted into the army. I jumped thru hoops when I was employed. I jumped thru hoops to get a divorce. No mas. I can wait till things get back to normal. I think a drug to beat this virus is close by.
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2493944]If you have nothing with you, you have nothing. They can search you. You give them what you have. 50k for example, without any resistance, you show your pockets are empty and it's over..............[/QUOTE]I have known of victims (not in Colombia) who had nothing on them but were stabbed by the robber in a fit of pique because they did not have anything to take. I will not take any chances.
[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2493965]I am traveling to Medellin on Wednesday. So I did not want to deal with the drama of having a COVID test that was sent out to a lab. Having to hope I get the results back in time. So I managed to find a CVS in Orlando (about 45 minutes away) that had the rapid molecular test. I called the COVID 19 hotline for CVS and they assumed me if is a PCR test, not an antigen test. So I went and got my test today and 15 minutes later I was told I was negative. However, when I looked at the results that were sent to me, it described a "MOLECULAR POCT" test. From my understanding, a PCR test is a molecular test. But since the results says "POCT" and not "PCR" I suspect that the test will not be accepted. So, I've made another appointment with CVS for the PCR test that goes to the lab and once again I'll be waiting to see if I get my results in time. Very frustrating. What I've found is that most of the folks who give these tests are not very knowledgeable (and the web pages do not always give you clear information). So you really have to pay attention. Ugh.[/QUOTE]There is a place in Orlando called [URL]Covidtestingllc.com[/URL]. They do 24-hour PCR tests. There are no appointments. I got the test about 8:45 am and received the results at 11 pm that night. If you have insurance, the cost is $35. All the information is on their website. I got there an hour before they opened, and was the fourth vehicle in line. Actually, they have six testing lanes, and I was first in the fourth lane. They are very efficient, I highly recommend. I also got a test at an urgent care place in Orlando, but was not sure I would get the results in time because they send the test to a lab. I received the results in two days. An additional note, neither result stated the word "Negative"; both stated "Not detected". I traveled from Orlando to Medellin last Friday, so I know the test results they provide are what is needed.
Don't forget to fill out the questionnaire on the Colombia Health Minister site the day before you travel. I forgot about it until I was in Panama. Hastily, I filled it out a little over an hour before I arrived in Medellin, and it was accepted.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2493864]I just tried using my Schwab card at Banco Pichincha and it reported transaction not allowed. So far, it has not taken money from my account. I will try a couple of other banks later today and report whether success / failure.[/QUOTE]Following up, I went to a Scotiabank Colpatria and withdrew 900 mil with my Schwab card without a problem. Their initial screen only lists 20 mil, so you have to select "Other amount", then you get more options. They charge no ATM fees.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2494007]It depends. Most locals they say they Stay safe because they don't wander around streets where there are druggies and cheap hoes. Stay in a safe neighborhood. If you visit massage parlor take the taxi walk from the taxi into the Establishment call taxi exit establishment and jump in the taxi. Research on YouTube as there is a worldwide phenomenon where Criminals slip substance into thee mongers drink. So just be aware and don't let anyone do that. Don't walk around with expensive cell phone. Just use an 80 euro android. For those concerned about the escorts, try to find some escorts that ccome from a bettter background and already have a little bit of money.Find an establishment with A reputation or get some recommendations of girls from friend.[/QUOTE]Your advice sounds very generic, almost applicable to anywhere in the world, yet not totally applicable to Colombia, and Euro's aren't used in Colombia.
Blakman,
It's great you are getting out and about without incident, but stay woke.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2494101]Laureles is casa and private apartment heavens. Being a cheapy charlie and into fitness I chose to walk rather than take a cab. Never once felt threaten. From la 70 to la 80 into LOS colores, estadio area. By the way remember those locations. Guess what, often I wore shorts, a hat, white shoes LOL. Members don't recommend LOL. I did not walk around at night time though. Then I suggest a cab cause its so damn cheap. Centro is not my cup of tea. But really its just an ordinary busy central business district. Whats noticeable is the grimey and disgusting prostitutes mixed up with the harden hookers forced into prostituting or there because of drugs and desperation. Walking there occasionally in day time is not bad but I don't see it as a go to spot. I am actually shocked by guys who glow about the area. Having said this I do want to check out the strip clubs in centro just to say I experienced it. Medellin is cupcake city to me. Sweet and safe[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2494028]. First went to Barra Executiva not packed. A good ratio of girls to guys maybe 15 girls and 20 or so guys. The girls were mostly 6's and 7's and not really shaped the right way for me. Too much ass on most of these girls. There was 1 girl who had a great bottle shaped body. She wore white jeans and a floral top which bared her midriff. She must have noticed me staring at her. As she passed by me she caressed my arm and then took position not far behind and to the left of me. I turned around and asked motioned for her to approach. She said her name was claudia. Unfortunately as she got closer, I got a better look at her face which revealed that she was much older than I originally thought. I would guess she was mid 30's at least. But her body still looked good. I asked her how old she was, and she replied how old do you want me to be. In my head, I thought to myself. About 15 years younger than you are. I laughed at her response and asked her how much it was to go upstairs. She quoted me 120 k. A little steep for for her and for any of the girls really.[/QUOTE]Barra Ejectiva / Conejitas girls are usually in the 80 k range, try offering that next time instead of asking her a price. Usually more girls on then that but you might have been there too early.
If Conejitas is packed it gets hot, try to find a seat along the back wall under the air con vents. I do like the rooms upstairs better at Conejitas, the Barra Ejectivas ones can be too dark and hot for my taste. Also when in Barra Ejectiva it worth walking thru the next door strip club Maracaibo (assuming it has reopened) just in case, some times some hotties.
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2494025]LOL. You can go out after 6, and that's not what he's talking about. You won't necessarily get a chance to show them your pockets or have a discussion about what you have or don't have. That can be anywhere. And people get robbed and killed for nothing some of the time. It isn't the junkies you have to worry about, it's the criminals. And there are lots, and lots of guns too.
I saw a map once of the street gangs, and the higher level gangs that control the street gangs. For Medellin. There were hundreds of street level gangs, and a number of higher level organizations they may have to answer to. They don't generally want wars. That gets too much attention, as in the past with Escobar, etc. But one offs are not a problem. You don't want to be one of those. You tell someone to f off. Maybe they understand you maybe they don't. But they get the picture. But you do that to the wrong one. You're dead. They don't have any problem at all with that.
In a city where you can hire a hit man for much less than $100 US it's not all safe and secure.[/QUOTE]What a lot of guys don't realize which you have posted about, is how brazen the thieves can be in Colombia. A lot of guys think a thief with a knife will brandish it, threaten you, and demand your belongings. Doesn't always work that way, I know of two gringos where the assailants walked up to them and tried to slit holes in their pants pocket with nothing being said. Neither one of them got cut or hurt and were able to run away, albeit both of them were obvious gringos and stuck out like a sore thumb with a big "X" on their backs.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2494138]Don't forget to fill out the questionnaire on the Colombia Health Minister site the day before you travel. I forgot about it until I was in Panama. Hastily, I filled it out a little over an hour before I arrived in Medellin, and it was accepted.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your post. After reading it I went looking on the health minister and immigration websites but could not find anything. Then I asked some buddies about it and they sent me the link.
[URL]https://apps.migracioncolombia.gov.co/pre-registro/public/preregistro.jsf[/URL]
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2494025]LOL. You can go out after 6, and that's not what he's talking about. You won't necessarily get a chance to show them your pockets or have a discussion about what you have or don't have. That can be anywhere. And people get robbed and killed for nothing some of the time. It isn't the junkies you have to worry about, it's the criminals. And there are lots, and lots of guns too.
In a city where you can hire a hit man for much less than $100 US it's not all safe and secure.[/QUOTE]That really puts things in perspective! $100!
These things generally happen extremely quickly. I've witnessed two muggings in Centro and the thing was 10 seconds or less. No real time to react.
Some days during the week they give specials for a day. 20 to 30 k difference.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2494106]Great report over in the Stupid Shit section by a new poster that has boots on the ground. I think Admin saw where the guy said rant in the first paragraph and just threw it over in that section.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2494033]It's amazing how many people assume that robberies must come down that way, face to face with some kind of discussion. They might just whip his ass, rifle his pockets, pull off his shoes and his socks, and if nothing, kick him in the head for good measure as they have to go find another victim. Some people should have their passports detained for their own protection.[/QUOTE]It looks like you are all expert here about robberies and crimes. Once again, if you are so afraid, stay home. I do what I fuckin want and I take my risks. You should all stop to scary people, because crimes happen all over the world. A guy run over a police officer just today in London. And today in a city in Italy, one of the most secure, a guy opened the fire with a stolen gun after a fight, 5 got shot, one is serious. So please stop, and I say to everyone of you, to scare the shit out of people, because 1) you don't know a shit; 2) crimes happen everywhere, especially in US.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2494149]What a lot of guys don't realize which you have posted about, is how brazen the thieves can be in Colombia. A lot of guys think a thief with a knife will brandish it, threaten you, and demand your belongings. Doesn't always work that way, I know of two gringos where the assailants walked up to them and tried to slit holes in their pants pocket with nothing being said. Neither one of them got cut or hurt and were able to run away, albeit both of them were obvious gringos and stuck out like a sore thumb with a big "X" on their backs.[/QUOTE]I have seen with my own eyes down the Metro Prado a guy approached from the back by two thugs. They paired him from both sides suddenly, kept him, took everything, pushed him away. I think they had a knife, but I did not approach to know more.
In such a case, I would not resist and I would let them take anything they find.
Note that people around did not do anything, just commented "ladrones..."
I have seen a poor man with backpack assaulted by a swarm of a dozen street kids. They took everything even the shoes in 30 seconds.
[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2493965]I am traveling to Medellin on Wednesday. So I did not want to deal with the drama of having a COVID test that was sent out to a lab. Having to hope I get the results back in time. So I managed to find a CVS in Orlando (about 45 minutes away) that had the rapid molecular test. I called the COVID 19 hotline for CVS and they assumed me if is a PCR test, not an antigen test. So I went and got my test today and 15 minutes later I was told I was negative. However, when I looked at the results that were sent to me, it described a "MOLECULAR POCT" test. From my understanding, a PCR test is a molecular test. But since the results says "POCT" and not "PCR" I suspect that the test will not be accepted. So, I've made another appointment with CVS for the PCR test that goes to the lab and once again I'll be waiting to see if I get my results in time. Very frustrating. What I've found is that most of the folks who give these tests are not very knowledgeable (and the web pages do not always give you clear information). So you really have to pay attention. Ugh.[/QUOTE]So a PCR test is a RNA genetic test. Anything that says they tested for multi ways is usually a PCR test it may have included the rapid test too. POCT means the samples weren't tested on site where they were collected but an accredited lab its an insurance a and government payout.
[QUOTE=Ewe52;2493860]So if some girl goes crying to you about something on another monger you have no evidence of. You'd at the drop of the hat go hurt another monger or ruin his life? 'Fuck that' everyone stay away from this simp guys.[/QUOTE]My apologies to the admins. You guys are definitely getting too much work moving everything to the Stupid Shit thread. You really don't get enough recognition for your efforts.
I can see you're new here, and by your name I see you prefer sex with sheep. Whatever works for you.
You bypassed a lot of landscape to get to your destination.
First, you're assuming I would have no evidence. I realize, freshly arriving from your latest InCel (involuntarily celibate- a group of whiney ass boys who cry because they can't get laid and compensate by calling men, who can get laid, "simp. ") pity party, you don't know much about. Really anything at all. I get messages of personal tragedy every week from some girl in Medellin. Usually it's a simple RFM (request for money). On rare occasions I will provide some help. Two weeks ago I helped a girl recover her wallet, which she had forgotten at a resort 3 hours from home.
If it's a situation where I'm willing to offer my assistance, I require compelling evidence. Which is why RFMs usually fail. In the case of a woman getting beaten bad enough to end up in the hospital, there will at least be pictures, plus a doctor's report.
If the woman is sending this information to me, it's because she's one of the few women who feel a deeper connection with me. If you ever get out from under mother's thumb, you might experience something most mongers know. Some girls you make a connection with. They stay in contact, but never ask for anything. They send messages when good things happen in their life, or just to check up on you. They consider you to be a special friend.
So now the situation is, I have evidence, plus the word of someone who I know, versus someone I know nothing about. Sorry, but I'm going to tell her to call the police and I'm going to tell her exactly what information to give them.
Here's the part you trailer park commandos never seem to understand. If some gringo beats the crap out of some Colombian hooker, the hooker is either going to the police, or she's going to her uncle, brother, cousin, father's friend. Whoever she knows that knows how to take care of the situation. And if the guy is still around a few days later, his woman beating days will come to an end. 6 months later someone will start finding the pieces.
When the police in Colombia go to arrest a rapist, or anyone who commits violence against women and children, they send a whole riot squad. Because the people don't want the guy to go to Colombian prison and get off easily. They would rather beat the guy to death.
You think a gringo who beats up hookers is going to get the key to the city?
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2494212]
I have seen a poor man with backpack assaulted by a swarm of a dozen street kids. They took everything even the shoes in 30 seconds.[/QUOTE]I have seen something similar. Someone was saying he gave middle finger to the trans at Veracruz church recently. I guess he is joking. If it were real, I think he did not realize if one of them choose to react, the others may follow like a swarm of bees to attack him.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2494212]I have seen with my own eyes down the Metro Prado a guy approached from the back by two thugs. They paired him from both sides suddenly, kept him, took everything, pushed him away. I think they had a knife, but I did not approach to know more.
In such a case, I would not resist and I would let them take anything they find.
Note that people around did not do anything, just commented "ladrones..."
I have seen a poor man with backpack assaulted by a swarm of a dozen street kids. They took everything even the shoes in 30 seconds.[/QUOTE]I'm just curious no one has ever gotten robbed in the States? How do you handle any densely populated areas? With some caution.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2494212]In such a case, I would not resist and I would let them take anything they find.[/QUOTE]That's the best thing to do. So, I'm with you man.
I love how we all are likely scaring crap out of the lurkers on the forum, who have never been to Colombia. Oh well, more chicas for us LOL!
[QUOTE=Nounce;2494226] Someone was saying he gave middle finger to the trans at Veracruz church recently.[/QUOTE]A very bad idea. I would call it "an excess of confidence". You know, you read here and there Centro is not dangerous, then someone believes it and gets harmed.
It's not dangerous if you know what you aredoing. If you walk around like Elmer Fudd like I did it is dangerous.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2494234]A very bad idea. I would call it "an excess of confidence". You know, you read here and there Centro is not dangerous, then someone believes it and gets harmed.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2493944]If you have nothing with you, you have nothing. They can search you. You give them what you have. 50k for example, without any resistance, you show your pockets are empty and it's over. If you go there with your phone and 1 million, then they will pretend your phone and 1 million, but if you have 20 k for the taxi, they will take what you have. Or you think they are gone to cut in half and search if you have some money in your belly? Yesterday I didn't have my phone with me, and I was there with almost no cash. I was there in the dark, from 6 to 8:30. No one touched me. I tell you more, I was feeling more secure than in the afternoon, because less people, greater distance, I was much more in control. One guy approached me, he followed me for a 10/20 seconds, till I said him to fuck off. I never let him closer than 2 meters from me. I doubt the junkies of el centro have guns. Cartel has guns, not the junkies in el centro. If they had one, they would have sold to buy drugs. The risk to get robbed is real, but who gives a fuck if they still me 50000 COP, I don't really mind. You all speak about Medellin like you can't go out after 6, which is bullshit.[/QUOTE]I don't speak that way. There is literally not a single time of the day when I haven't been walking in Medellin. I've walked from El Centro to Laureles after 10 pm. I've walked the length of Poblado after 4 am. I've walked around carrying 6 million pesos (furniture shopping) along with my $1,000 laptop. I've walked Bello, Manrique and Paris. I averaged 50 miles walking a week for a year. I have no problems walking around or being out after 6 pm.
You don't seem to understand how robberies work in Medellin.
2 guys come around the corner on a motorcycle and see someone walking alone. They stop. The passenger is already pointing a gun at you. As he approaches you, the driver pulls a gun. If you run, they shoot. If you don't immediately start handing stuff over, they shoot. They don't spend 5 minutes negotiating or searching you. 5 seconds after the motorcycle stops, it's driving away. You're either standing there with empty pockets, or you're lying there bleeding. If they have knives instead of guns, the results are the same.
It's hard to find a chica who hasn't been robbed multiple times. It's hard to find a chica who doesn't know someone who was killed by the robbers. They get killed for 1 of 2 reasons. Either they resisted, or they had nothing to steal.
You seem not to understand the situation. You are not a Colombian. Everyone in Colombia knows you aren't a Colombian. If you're in El Centro and you're not a Colombian, everyone knows you have money. Even if you're just walking around with 50 k and no phone, they know you have money.
Now you're facing 2 guys with guns or knives, they're panicked, because they know they need to get your money and get out quick and you expect them to listen calmly while you explain why you're only carrying 50 k? That's like going to Pamplona and explaining to the bulls that you don't eat meat.
If you want to go walking the deserted streets of El Centro after midnight, just to prove your point, at least carry enough to keep from getting killed.
[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2493986]Here are the official stats on robberies, a person is 3 times as likely to get robbed in El Centro as they are in Laureles or Poblado but that does not mean you are exempt in Laureles or Poblado it just means it is less likely to happen there. The most likely way is as described in this article and that has been described in posts here in this forum, It is by the passenger of a motorcycle. I think they actually have term for these guys in Colombia but I cannot remember what it is. Looking at just Laureles and Poblado the stats average out to be like 5 per day that means 15 per day in El centro on the average - so like Nounce said robbery can happen anywhere -
[URL]https://medellinguru.com/medellin-robbery/[/URL]
According to this other article the motorcycle rider thing started as a means for hitman (a method that is still around) of the Escobar cartel (it also says that the person who thought of it was eventually assassinated in the same way) so that it would be easier to evade the police through traffic, but also robbers caught on to this method, In 2014 Medellin even passed an ordinance banning male passengers of certain age group on the back of motorcycles. "motorcycle assassinations decreased by 39 percent, Robberies of cars and of motorcycles by motorcycle riders each fell by nearly 30 percent. " I do not know if that law is still in effect.
[URL]https://www.insightcrime.org/news/brief/medellin-ban-male-motorcycle-passengers-hitmen/[/URL][/QUOTE]Everyone in Medellin knows 2 guys on a motorcycle spells trouble.
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2494011]I read the article. But I also read this:
"Jeff is the founder and editor-in-chief of Medellin Guru. He first discovered Colombia back in 2006 and has traveled to all the major cities in Colombia. Jeff is fortunate to have lived over eight years in Medelln."
He has been robbed once in 8 years! I mean, statistically it's nothing really. A friend of mine in Turin has been robbed 3 times at the station by junkies using a syringe. 3 times in 2 years. Watching at the data the probability to get robbed in Laureles is really low. I'm sure it's much easier to get robbed en el centro at night. During the day there is so much police. I mean today I have seen at least 20 soldiers with automatic rifles.
And, look at him, he is a the perfect target. You can see he is a gringo from 1 km, and you know he will not do any resistance. Robberies happen all the time in all the big cities. You can't be safe in New York, London or Paris.
There were over 40 thousand robbery offences recorded by the Metropolitan Police in London in 2019/20, an increase of almost six thousand when compared with the previous year, and a peak for this type of offence in the provided time period. Did you read? 40 thousands. Yes, London is bit, but it's still much more than in Medellin with all the neighborhoods combined. In Laureles it happens not even 1. 5 times a day. Why it should be me? Most likely is going to be a monger from USA or Canada, with blue eyes, in his 60.[/QUOTE]At least 90% of robberies in Medellin go unreported. Instead of basing your opinion on the experience of 1 gringo, ask the chicas how many times they've been robbed. Ask how many cell phones they have had stolen. Ask how many people they know who have been stabbed or shot.
Your point about only carrying what you can afford to lose is a good one.
Your thoughts about what will happen if you don't have anything to steal are potentially fatal.
Where a small percent of violence gets over publicized to give vast contrast of what the community is really like. Theres 365 days in a year.
[QUOTE=Kafka;2494237]It's not dangerous if you know what you aredoing. If you walk around like Elmer Fudd like I did it is dangerous.[/QUOTE].
I will continue to tell any monger who wants to venture into Park Botero, Vera Cruz, and Park Berrios, have your wits about you. I have been in Medellin for 8 months, Centro is the place that I spend most of my time, if there was ever a target to rob, they would have robbed me by now. Do not make yourself a target, I can only give you warnings, if you have no street sense and you have never been in a scuffle, stay away from Centro at the current time. I have met about 8 Mongers in the past 8 months and everyone of them were older than me and everyone of them were not happy with what Centro offered them. If you know you want 18-20 year skinny chics who could pass for European, please stick with the agencies. I will leave it at that, you mongers know who you are and what you want, Centro may not be the place for you if you have very specific wants and needs, and the mongers I have met, really were particular on age, look, and weight! Centro is very dangerous if you do not speak Spanish, you have no street sense, and you are in Centro alone. You have heard my speech, to each their own! Pollo Negro is out!
And continue to take the wrong route regardless. If you are in Centro and you are not able to spend $13.00 usd on sex, my suggestion is just stay away from the park, I have seen guys tell me straight up that they will not pay any girl in the park $50,000 pesos, but turn around and complain that the chic at the casa was horrible for $60,000 pesos, I telling you now, you are giving foreigners a bad name when you are too cheap to spend $13.00 usd on the girls, your choice, your money, but you know right from wrong. Pollo Negro is out!
Hey guys the locals in Colombia get Robbed too. It's not just the tourist. If There is a higher incidence of foreigners getting robbed, It could be, but I'm not aware. It's probably because the thief knows tourist usually have money to spend.
If some thief stops me in the street just give him the wallet and the phone. In all honesty I think the criminal will be happy with 50,000. Practically nobody walks around with more money unless they just came out of the ATM Right after payday. wORST-CASE SCENARIO give the assailant you shoes or something.
There are some other Colombian scams:
-be careful after leaving the ATM. Some criminal may be waiting for you and will ask the Victim for all the cash They just withdrew.
-Don't wear a watch and don't take your phone out in public like it's your girlfriend or something. Keep your cheap watch in your pocket.
-Don't wear any cheap hippie bracelets because people may think it's an expensive bracelet and try to steal it from you.Make sure at least the bracelet is just s string without anything yellow or Silver.
- If you go to a bar they may spike your drink take a taxi to yoour place get you to give them all your belongings and then they will leave you sleeping in some park. The victims wake up without Shoes. According to the nnewspaper.
-If you're driving a car don't swing your arm outside your window they will burn you with a cigarette and when you say ouch and reach for the pain with your other arm they will take your watch. Actually this 1 may be urban myth?
Tourist can stay safe and nothing will happen to. Just take precaution and don't do anything stupid that the locals would not do.
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2494207]It looks like you are all expert here about robberies and crimes. Once again, if you are so afraid, stay home. I do what I fuckin want and I take my risks. You should all stop to scary people, because crimes happen all over the world. A guy run over a police officer just today in London. And today in a city in Italy, one of the most secure, a guy opened the fire with a stolen gun after a fight, 5 got shot, one is serious. So please stop, and I say to everyone of you, to scare the shit out of people, because 1) you don't know a shit; 2) crimes happen everywhere, especially in US.[/QUOTE]Perhaps you ought to look at all of these posts in a different light. It's not that the board members with lot's of time spent on the ground in Medellin are trying to scare anyone with what they have witnessed / experienced, but more to warn others of the dangers that lurk, and hopefully provide some advice and things to be aware of so that other board members avoid becoming a victim.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2493729]The location of your home would not be difficult to discover via that number. That doesn't necessarily matter but we all need to aware.[/QUOTE]Agreed the FBI woul be able to locate my anonymous tracphone using triangulation. But I'm not worried about scammers in foreign countires.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2493681]Laugh now! But just wait until someone hacks in and you wake up in the morning with frozen nuts.[/QUOTE]Shit I would need to change my name to Frozen Nuts LOL. Good one JjB. For anyone seriously paranoid about giving out your whatsapp number just get a 5 minute SIM card. I've done this as well with my real telephone. Walk into the phone shop next to the church on 43 & calle 10 and buy a SIM card without any data plan for a couple dollars. Load whatsapp and get it verified via text message. As soon as your whatsapp is up and running pull out that SIM card and throw it away. You are now anonymous and can give your whatsapp number to anyone without hesitation.
The real point I was originally trying to make is that I would never use my own normal USA phone number for whatsapp. Not saying it's a big mistake to do so but by using other phone numbers it provides another layer of privacy.
Besides that I'd have to put up with messages from my friends at home asking for pictures of the girls I'm meeting. I prefer to not be disturbed by such requests during my travels.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2494260]Hey guys the locals in Colombia get Robbed too. It's not just the tourist. If There is a higher incidence of foreigners getting robbed, It could be, but I'm not aware. It's probably because the thief knows tourist usually have money to spend.
If some thief stops me in the street just give him the wallet and the phone. In all honesty I think the criminal will be happy with 50,000. Practically nobody walks around with more money unless they just came out of the ATM Right after payday. wORST-CASE SCENARIO give the assailant you shoes or something.
There are some other Colombian scams:
-be careful after leaving the ATM. Some criminal may be waiting for you and will ask the Victim for all the cash They just withdrew.
-Don't wear a watch and don't take your phone out in public like it's your girlfriend or something. Keep your cheap watch in your pocket.
-Don't wear any cheap hippie bracelets because people may think it's an expensive bracelet and try to steal it from you.Make sure at least the bracelet is just s string without anything yellow or Silver..[/QUOTE]One of my girls said her watch was taken riding the metro when the train stopped two guys leaving trapped her arm stripped off the watch and ran off. All happened I'm seconds from what I was told.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2494236]I don't speak that way. There is literally not a single time of the day when I haven't been walking in Medellin. I've walked from El Centro to Laureles after 10 pm. I've walked the length of Poblado after 4 am. I've walked around carrying 6 million pesos (furniture shopping) along with my $1,000 laptop. I've walked Bello, Manrique and Paris. I averaged 50 miles walking a week for a year. I have no problems walking around or being out after 6 pm.
You don't seem to understand how robberies work in Medellin.
2 guys come around the corner on a motorcycle and see someone walking alone. They stop. The passenger is already pointing a gun at you. As he approaches you, the driver pulls a gun. If you run, they shoot. If you don't immediately start handing stuff over, they shoot. They don't spend 5 minutes negotiating or searching you. 5 seconds after the motorcycle stops, it's driving away. You're either standing there with empty pockets, or you're lying there bleeding. If they have knives instead of guns, the results are the same..[/QUOTE]So your point is that I should carry my phone and 1 million so if they rob me, they are going to be happy and they leave me alone? Because this is what you have just said. Instead I'm doing the exact opposite. I'm not carrying my phone and I'm carrying what I'm going to need for the hours I'm in el centro. Carrying 6 millions is not really smart, isn't it? There is no reason for that. Credit and debit card are accepted everywhere. And if I'm carrying such an amount, which is not going to happen, I take a taxi. It's not even smart doing your errands "en el centro" with your $1000 phone. If you know you can get robbed, you go around with nothing, so that's what they are going to rob, just the cash you have with you. If you don't have an expensive watch, you don't have to worry when your arm is outside the window of car, because no one will try to take it from you. People are not shooting at you because you don't have nothing. It happened, but it's not the rule for sure. It might happen if you are opposing resistance that you get stabbed or shot, and I don't even think it's going to happen all the time. Most the time, if there are people around, they will just walk away. Yours are just fantasies. You should do some days in a prison here in Colombia to understand why people don't get stabbed any minute. If you hand over what you have and you show you don't have nothing else, there is no reason they should hurt you. If it happens, then it was your destiny. They take what you have, as fast as they can and they run away. Please get back to reality.
[QUOTE=Ewe52;2494227]I'm just curious no one has ever gotten robbed in the States? How do you handle any densely populated areas? With some caution.[/QUOTE]Not really comparable. There's no city in the US with a population density close to Medellin and most of us, while in the US aren't spending much time walking around in areas comparable to El Centro, especially at night.
There are several ways to avoid being a victim.
1. Be aware of your surroundings. For someone to rob you they have to get close.
2. Walk with confidence. If you're wandering around lost you look like a victim.
3. Don't flaunt it. Keep the phone and money out of sight. Leave your jewelry and wallet at home.
4. Limit your exposure. If you have no need to be there, don't go there.
Number 4 seems to apply. Other than moving between strip clubs or bars, there's no reason to be walking around El Centro after midnight. What purpose does it serve? The stores are all closed. The hookers are all staying in just a few small areas. There are no real sights to see.
You might have no problems. But you travelled thousands of miles, spent hundreds of dollars, just to walk around grubby, mostly deserted streets after midnight? You could be in your room fucking, or in a club partying. But you want to spend your time proving that thieves are basically decent people who won't hurt you as long as you tell them you didn't bring any money?
I guess everyone has a different definition of "enjoy yourself."
[QUOTE=Blakman;2494249]Where a small percent of violence gets over publicized to give vast contrast of what the community is really like. Theres 365 days in a year..[/QUOTE]This too shall pass.
Twice a year we go through the "Medellin is perfectly safe and anyone who says otherwise is a paranoid coward"If you step outside you're going to die" cycle.
Everyone would rather hold to their misconception instead of accepting reality.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2493729]The location of your home would not be difficult to discover via that number. That doesn't necessarily matter but we all need to aware.[/QUOTE]That's not possible, you guys should stop to express opinions on things you don't know. Unless you are working for an operator and you have special access, or you are the police (and not all the policemen), you can't track a number. Then, just to clarify, is not really triangulation, because they don't need to use the GPS to locate you, they use the cell your phone is connected, and they know, more or less, where you are. They know the area, and that's it, they can't track exactly your position like with the GPS. If someone steal my phone I can't trace it, unless they shut it down. And I can erase the content remotely as soon the phone is connected to the Internet.
[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2494253]I will continue to tell any monger who wants to venture into Park Botero, Vera Cruz, and Park Berrios, have your wits about you. I have been in Medellin for 8 months, Centro is the place that I spend most of my time, if there was ever a target to rob, they would have robbed me by now. Do not make yourself a target, I can only give you warnings, if you have no street sense and you have never been in a scuffle, stay away from Centro at the current time. I have met about 8 Mongers in the past 8 months and everyone of them were older than me and everyone of them were not happy with what Centro offered them. If you know you want 18-20 year skinny chics who could pass for European, please stick with the agencies. I will leave it at that, you mongers know who you are and what you want, Centro may not be the place for you if you have very specific wants and needs, and the mongers I have met, really were particular on age, look, and weight! Centro is very dangerous if you do not speak Spanish, you have no street sense, and you are in Centro alone. You have heard my speech, to each their own! Pollo Negro is out![/QUOTE]This is a good post. I personally like el centro, and I never felt in danger. But I'm a suspicious, I walk around with a killer look, I do not give any confidence, I do not let anyone near me, not even a meter close. And I do speak Spanish.
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[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2494253]Centro is very dangerous if you do not speak Spanish, you have no street sense, and you are in Centro alone. You have heard my speech, to each their own! Pollo Negro is out![/QUOTE]
A man from Cali, Colombia says in 10 years he has only been to the Cali center twice. The center is considered 1 of the most dangerous zones during the day and completely off-limits at night. He went there twice In 10 years for the commerce as there are Historically some good stores in the center. 1 of the times coincidentally across the Street from the store he visited there was an ambulance police and news crew present as there had been a shooting half an hour before he arrived.
And whenever a local from Cali needs to buy something from a store in the center they look for alternative stores located in the safe parts of town. And if the local visits the center he uses the In-N-Out tactic. He doesn't waalk around and go sightseeing. So, if you wander into the center is because you're an adventurer, commando, you know what you're doing, You assume the risk, You know how to fit in, and you're not behaving like the safe part of town locals.
So, unless you have a good reason, don't take the risk. That being said, if you're Streetsmart you can do it.
Another local from cali told me there are many parts of the cityy where you just don't go.
[QUOTE=Ewe52;2494290]One of my girls said her watch was taken riding the metro when the train stopped two guys leaving trapped her arm stripped off the watch and ran off. All happened I'm seconds from what I was told.[/QUOTE]Well, sure. And in a big European city someone on a scooter grabbed my phone at a semaphore, when I was checking my mails. I was just fast enough to pinch it, and they didn't get it. It wasn't even me, it was just a reflex. They do these robberies all the time. It's happening everywhere not just in Medellin. A friend of mine got robbed of all his possessions by a girl slept with him in Portugal. So what? Be careful in Medellin like in any other country, included the one you are living in.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2494318]A man from Cali, Colombia says in 10 years he has only been to the Cali center twice. The center is considered 1 of the most dangerous zones during the day and completely off-limits at night. He went there twice In 10 years for the commerce as there are Historically some good stores in the center. 1 of the times coincidentally across the Street from the store he visited there was an ambulance police and news crew present as there had been a shooting half an hour before he arrived.
And whenever a local from Cali needs to buy something from a store in the center they look for alternative stores located in the safe parts of town. And if the local visits the center he uses the In-N-Out tactic. He doesn't waalk around and go sightseeing. So, if you wander into the center is because you're an adventurer, commando, you know what you're doing, You assume the risk, You know how to fit in, and you're not behaving like the safe part of town locals.[/QUOTE]I don't know Cali, but in Medellin there are so many soldiers, than no one is touching you during the day en el centro. I tell you that. And on La 70 this night I have seen 20 motorcycles and at least 15 agents of the special force, all in black armed like they were ready to go to war.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2494244]At least 90% of robberies in Medellin go unreported. Instead of basing your opinion on the experience of 1 gringo, ask the chicas how many times they've been robbed. Ask how many cell phones they have had stolen. Ask how many people they know who have been stabbed or shot.
Your point about only carrying what you can afford to lose is a good one.
Your thoughts about what will happen if you don't have anything to steal are potentially fatal.[/QUOTE]The reason I say it is hard to discern is because it also one of the most common ploys chicas use to get extra money from a Gringo, so beware. I've heard the story at least ten times from different girls, maybe half were believable, who knows. The angle is that you will have no way of reaching them to fuck them if they don't have a phone. Say, "Oh well" and move on. Unless you are pussy whipped by this particular chica or you think you are going to marry her, don't be buying cell phones for girls you've fucked. At least the Thai girls don't lie about it, they simply take you shopping and see what you will fork over, jajaja. Chicas will provide cell phones for their relatives, they just keep handing them down as long as there are Gringos out there willing to buy them. I knew one Gringo who bought FOUR cell phones for his chica in three months. I told him, "I guess even Grandma has a got a cell phone by now," jajajaja.
I try to include practical tips in my posts when I can: When my Number One girl got her cell phone stolen she was sitting in a cab at a stoplight and her door was unlocked. The cab driver should have locked the doors. The thief opened her door, brandished a knife, and grabbed her phone. Lock your doors and don't keep your windows rolled all the way down when in heavy traffic. The cab driver could be in on it and be setting you up as a mark.
The cops are attacking the end-users to try and combat the number of counterfeit and stolen phones in Colombia. I was walking with my Numero Uno girl and her girlfriend (they are lovers, jeje) in El Centro when the cops did a random stop on us. I am not a techy but chica's cell phone registration was not in her name, they looked it up in real time. They took her to the police station, threw her in a cold damp cell, made her take her shoes off (WTF?) and did not release her until 10 at night, over 8 hours later. She was never arrested, but they kept her phone. The chica bought her phone on the black market, but the cops are not just going after the dealers and distributors. They are punishing the consumers too, hoping to quell demand. Be forewarned.
Also, only carry what you can afford to lose but if possible have at least 400-600 on you to bribe the cops. When I say "bribe" I don't mean American style. A Gringo buddy of mine who is magnet for trouble, twice got rousted by cops who basically let him go after they took all the money in his wallet, without saying a word about it. The bicycle cops on Avenida 70 were notorious for this a while back. Mark one for the argument against shorts, jaja.
Disclaimer: My observations are all still based on a "Pre-Covid" Colombia. Locations, trouble spots, issues may have changed since then for the worse or better. Jaja.
Random Gratuitous Fotos: Same Gringo friend hooked me up with this chica on Halloween night 2019. She is dressed as GI Jane. At first, we did not have a spark but she has one of the most kick ass bodies I've ever fucked so I pursued her a bit. Now she holds the Number Five spot in my line-up (all my regulars have and know their number) and the title, "Best Body. " Remember, Sexy Dexy and Skater Chic had Best Ass, but overall got to give GI Jane "Best Body. " She has a full time job and has never asked me for a peso, except after fucking jaja and she gives me great deals on that rate and fringe benefits that would more than double the price for a full-time puta. These shots are not too revealing but as the saying goes, "You can't fake bone structure. " The fotos also suggest her fun personality which is something I always look for. Keep your eye out for more revealing shots of GI Jane in the future. I have a pussy shot of her you will never forget, jeje.
I will post the link to a security guide. It's in Spanish but worth of effort to read. [URL]https://www.policia.gov.co/sites/default/files/cartilla-de-Autoproteccion.pdf[/URL] Since most of the debates here are about the central area of the city, I would suggest to avoid Sundays, morning and evening peak time hours, and leave before the evening rush hour.
Other security considerations you may think of. Assume you are made of glass and even the little shatter will break you. Assume there isn't any law, but a thin veil around you to fool you into thinking law can help you. And also know, when bad folks shoot they don't usually miss. It costs about 300-500 K to borrow a weapon, and 2 mln to buy, and there are actually tens of thousands illegal arms in the city.
Why would a group of colombian girls go down to mexico. Inquisitive mind wants to if other than vacation.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2494332]Why would a group of colombian girls go down to mexico. Inquisitive mind wants to if other than vacation.[/QUOTE]Up, not down.
Jajajaja, couldn't resist.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2494332]Why would a group of colombian girls go down to mexico. Inquisitive mind wants to if other than vacation.[/QUOTE]Some work, some get 'rented' by guys for an extended period.
That is a fair question. You can add these destinations to the list: Curacao, St. Maarten, Aruba, Spain.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2494332]Why would a group of colombian girls go down to mexico. Inquisitive mind wants to if other than vacation.[/QUOTE]
I don't have your expertise I assume. Here is what I know. A couple of months ago I needed to send an online purchase to a relative's house. I could not remember her address and I could not reach her by phone in time to place the order soon enough to get a promotional price. I used her mobile phone number to look up her postal address on the Internet. It took five to ten minutes. I am neither law enforcement nor an operator (I assume you mean ISP or telecommunications carrier by that). If it were my imagination rather than what really happened then you would be correct.
To be fair, my relative leads a plain vanilla straight arrow life. She has no reason to take the very basic personal privacy steps to prevent me doing what I was able to do. Others who may have reason to secure that sort of information don't always bother to do it or know how to do it.
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2494305]That's not possible, you guys should stop to express opinions on things you don't know. Unless you are working for an operator and you have special access, or you are the police (and not all the policemen), you can't track a number. Then, just to clarify, is not really triangulation, because they don't need to use the GPS to locate you, they use the cell your phone is connected, and they know, more or less, where you are. They know the area, and that's it, they can't track exactly your position like with the GPS. If someone steal my phone I can't trace it, unless they shut it down. And I can erase the content remotely as soon the phone is connected to the Internet.[/QUOTE]
I might not know right from wrong but I do know 30 K is all anyone has to pay in Centro. If you 50 K number includes a hotel room then I'm with you. I've been to a Centro casa or two; I can't think of any that are north of 55 K on the high side for half an hour.
[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2494254]And continue to take the wrong route regardless. If you are in Centro and you are not able to spend $13.00 usd on sex, my suggestion is just stay away from the park, I have seen guys tell me straight up that they will not pay any girl in the park $50,000 pesos, but turn around and complain that the chic at the casa was horrible for $60,000 pesos, I telling you now, you are giving foreigners a bad name when you are too cheap to spend $13.00 usd on the girls, your choice, your money, but you know right from wrong. Pollo Negro is out![/QUOTE]
Yes, it's getting to be ISG World Star edition.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2494249]Where a small percent of violence gets over publicized to give vast contrast of what the community is really like. Theres 365 days in a year..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2493670]I still wonder how can someone can get robbed on La 70, like I read here, not even at night, but during the day. If you get robbed during the day, you are really doing something wrong. I have been walking en el centro for hours and no one touched me. And I'm planning to go after midnight, with just enough money for the taxi, if not any, without my phone, so they will have nothing to rob.
I want to see if it's so dangerous like people say, because I'm sure it's not. They do rob, for sure, but if you don't have anything to rob, they will not rob you anything. During the day there is a LOT of police, and I have spoken with a policeman who told me they are there the entire night. Of course the night is much worse en El Centro, but it's not the Far West.
To be robbed on La 70 you must be dumb, really. There are places in Italy, and not even in the South, much more dangerous than La 70. I never felt unsafe, and I have been walking at 2 AM in the night. I went to la Mayorista at 1 AM.
I think some of you are paranoid, like the one saying you shouldn't give your phone number. LOL, to a Colombian chica. Fact is, you don't know what you are talking about.[/QUOTE]But I will tell you what I saw there. I was walking with Novia #2 (Maid Service) in the heart of Avenida 70, closer to the University that the Metro Station. I became aware of someone sprinting and approaching from an angle over my left shoulder, street side. What happened next was amazing. Two other guys swooped in at a full sprint, one guy knocked him down with a flying kick and then with perfect accuracy did a side kick to his head while he down, bounced his head off the concrete and knocked him out instantly. At most we were ten feet away and there no one else near. As soon as the guy was down and out, the other two guys sprinted off, from start to finish not more than ten seconds. I am sure all of them were teenagers. The downed guy had on a back pack but his attackers were not interested. Everyone I spoke to said that was an "unusual" incident for that area. My dominant thought then and now was how skillful the little dude was who took him down. Two kicks, one on a full run, the second with pinpoint accuracy. Game over.
Disclaimer: All my posts are based on "pre-Covid" Colombia. Locales and their associated issues may be different now, better or worse.
Prado, especially around the metro station, is the area that makes me more nervous than any other in Medellin. I actively avoid it. It is really easy to get hemmed in there with no way to escape. When I pass through on foot I keep moving at a brisk pace and always keep a building at my side. I can't ever remember moving through there at night on foot. In fact taxi and uber drivers usually detour to avoid it at night so they don't have to stop at a traffic light. That's when the stick up boys on motorcycles or guys off the street run up on you.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2494212]I have seen with my own eyes down the Metro Prado a guy approached from the back by two thugs. They paired him from both sides suddenly, kept him, took everything, pushed him away. I think they had a knife, but I did not approach to know more.
In such a case, I would not resist and I would let them take anything they find.
Note that people around did not do anything, just commented "ladrones..."
I have seen a poor man with backpack assaulted by a swarm of a dozen street kids. They took everything even the shoes in 30 seconds.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2494032]How much do you offer on Facebook, and usually, based on the level, how much do they accept?
Badoo didn't work at all. Few matches and girls most interested in something real than sex. The only real interesting contact I had it's not in Medellin. Waste of time. In Facebook, in a couple of hours I connected with 15 girls. I added a lot of girls, so I suppose by tomorrow I might have 50 contacts. Many are hot girls, some really hot. I started from a plastic surgeon page, then once I got friend with an hot chica, I added her girlfriends. I contacted one for test (not hot and in her 30), offered 50 for 2 hours and she asked for 100, oral natural. It looks way too much. I got a deal with a girl I met en el centro which I fucked today: 140 for the entire day. I would define this girl 7.5.
Usually what do you offer for 8, 9, 10 levels?
I wouldn't ask for a 7, because you can find a 7 en el centro. You need to search very well, do a test drive, and eventually make the offer.[/QUOTE]I usually offer 300k to 350k COP for all night. Keep me updated on how it goes. When are you going by the way?
[QUOTE=Blakman;2494332]Why would a group of colombian girls go down to mexico. Inquisitive mind wants to if other than vacation.[/QUOTE]I know a few Medellin girls who went to Mexico. They went to "work" there. They mostly see Mexican men. Apparently, the pay is better. They get moved to different cities. I know of a girl stuck in Mexico after the covid shutdown, but was able to return after the Colombian government allowed their citizens bank in.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2493901]That may be why so many use Facebook.
Hello. Are you available? I want to see you. How much do you want? I pay (whatever price you want). Is that okay? Yes I will give you 20 k for a taxi. Can you be here in 1 hour? Okay. I will see you in 2 hours.
(Hola. Ests disponible? Quiero verte. Cuanto quieres por un rato? Siempre pago (whatever). Est bien? S te dar 20 mil mas por un taxi. Puedes llegar ac en una hora? Claro. Entonces te ver en 2 horas.).
She'll show up, probably want to use the bathroom to freshen up, might come out in lingerie or just underwear. In less than 15 minutes she will be doing what you want. If she's enjoying your company she'll still be doing what you want 2 or 3 hours later. When she's done, give her the money and walk her to the door.
Tomorrow she'll send pictures of her friend and ask if you want a trio.[/QUOTE]He summed up the entire knowledge base succinctly. Took me a couple of years to figure it out.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2494318]A man from Cali, Colombia says in 10 years he has only been to the Cali center twice[/QUOTE]I think the discussion here is a little different. Most what we are discussing here are from members who have been in the area practically all day for a long period of time. It is not like that they stay away from downtown and warn others not to come. I think the definition of downtown is far smaller for new members than experienced members so the viewpoint is also somewhat different.
It may not happen to you, but if it happens to you just once, I think you are going to change your opinion very quickly. That may be the difference of opinion between people never experience it and people who have experienced it.
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2494305]That's not possible, you guys should stop to express opinions on things you don't know. Unless you are working for an operator and you have special access, or you are the police (and not all the policemen), you can't track a number. Then, just to clarify, is not really triangulation, because they don't need to use the GPS to locate you, they use the cell your phone is connected, and they know, more or less, where you are. They know the area, and that's it, they can't track exactly your position like with the GPS. If someone steal my phone I can't trace it, unless they shut it down. And I can erase the content remotely as soon the phone is connected to the Internet.[/QUOTE]I think he is not talking about tracking live location.
I have been "en el centro" at from 20:30 to 21:40 on Sunday. I don't know if it's because it was Sunday, but all the chicas were gone. Only the few working in front of the bars were still there. Some of them. I can say I have seen just 10% of the girls I have seen Saturday afternoon. I think the best time is between 16 and 19, after most of the chicas leave.
I have seen a monger there, speaking with two girls, maybe around 9 PM? He had a small backpack. One of you guys?
I didn't let anyone near me. I have been really careful to change path when two guys or a group was 30 meters away from me. Police was there, not many policemen, but it was there. And to be honest "el centro" was empty. No girls in Veracruz, no girls in Plaza Botero, I mean just 5. A few zombies around, real zombies, like in The Walking Dead. One was walking dragging his leg, he was like in the tv series.
Well, that's my last night visit there, but I will return between 16 and 19.
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2493656]Met another girl yesterday. She came to my place, we ordered food. She was here for about 3 hours. A lot of talk with a lot of contact, especially from her side. Legs on mine, etc. She didn't let me kiss her. She asked me to recharge her phone, like 2000 COP before she left, which I didn't. She was nice, but she didn't shave her legs in a while. Student. Not a prostitute anyway.
Another girl was willing to accept my offer 100 + taxi for 2 hours. We had a video call. She was with a friend. After the call she accepted the offer, but then she told me to meet the day after. We never met, and she is not answering anymore. She was looking better in the pictures. They all look much better, usually.
For now, Badoo is a waste of time.[/QUOTE]I'm reading your reports with interest as I will travel to Medellin for the first time soon. As you have stated in your reports a number of times that you have taken girls back to yours can you please tell me what area you stay in and if you are using a hotel or airbnb. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2494374]I think the discussion here is a little different. Most what we are discussing here are from members who have been in the area practically all day for a long period of time. It is not like that they stay away from downtown and warn others not to come. I think the definition of downtown is far smaller for new members than experienced members so the viewpoint is also somewhat different.
It may not happen to you, but if it happens to you just once, I think you are going to change your opinion very quickly. That may be the difference of opinion between people never experience it and people who have experienced it.[/QUOTE]Cali and Medellin are also different. Last I heard Cali was more dangerous. And I would not be surprised if Cali centro is dangerous. Everyone I know from Cali has been held up at gunpoint at some time, mostly while driving, including just coming in from the airport on a shuttle bus. But, before there is an outcry. I don't know that many people from Cali, so I'm sure someone will have had a great time there, no problems at all, and spent all kinds of time in Centro.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2494374]I think the discussion here is a little different. Most what we are discussing here are from members who have been in the area practically all day for a long period of time. It is not like that they stay away from downtown and warn others not to come. I think the definition of downtown is far smaller for new members than experienced members so the viewpoint is also somewhat different.
It may not happen to you, but if it happens to you just once, I think you are going to change your opinion very quickly. That may be the difference of opinion between people never experience it and people who have experienced it.[/QUOTE]Issues of personal violence risk are in their own category. Most risks in life we can play the odds and not worry to much about outliers. The risk of getting in accident while driving, the risk of moving to a new city for a job, the risk of a marriage lasting, etc. But some risks are defined by the outcome more than the probability. Imagine a rare fatal disease, one in a million, one in ten million. But if you have it the incidence is 100%. Doesn't help for someone to say, "Wow, the disease that is killing you is SO rare. " So like you said, everything is copacetic until everything goes wrong, then what? I take way more risks than I should, been lucky so far. Personally I used to stroll El Centro all hours, pre-Covid. But I wouldn't recommend doing what I did. Jumping off the airport bus and running over to NutiBara Hotel? Sure. Heading the opposite direction at 2 AM into the Venezuelan section of town wearing a Nike track suit and sneaks? Probably not a good idea but that didn't stop me. Hey, I wanted to get laid and that's where my girls lived. Peace out.
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2494447]Cali and Medellin are also different. Last I heard Cali was more dangerous. And I would not be surprised if Cali centro is dangerous. Everyone I know from Cali has been held up at gunpoint at some time, mostly while driving, including just coming in from the airport on a shuttle bus. But, before there is an outcry. I don't know that many people from Cali, so I'm sure someone will have had a great time there, no problems at all, and spent all kinds of time in Centro.[/QUOTE]Cali is fine. Visited in March with zero problems. Visit the two clinicas and you shall be rewarded with a huge selection of chicas with good service.
Prices are extremely reasonable.
An issue with Cali is the lack of English compared to Medellin.
Overall Medellin is better for mongering due to the numerous options.
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2494447]Cali and Medellin are also different. Last I heard Cali was more dangerous. And I would not be surprised if Cali centro is dangerous. Everyone I know from Cali has been held up at gunpoint at some time, mostly while driving, including just coming in from the airport on a shuttle bus. But, before there is an outcry. I don't know that many people from Cali, so I'm sure someone will have had a great time there, no problems at all, and spent all kinds of time in Centro.[/QUOTE]As for centro do not walk around. Taxi to your location and be smart. The security is always outstanding. A few gems are around for decent pricing with an attached facility to do your business.
[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2494407]I'm reading your reports with interest as I will travel to Medellin for the first time soon. As you have stated in your reports a number of times that you have taken girls back to yours can you please tell me what area you stay in and if you are using a hotel or airbnb. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I do stay in Laureles, which I prefer to Poblado, not because La 70, but because it remembers me "El Vedado" in Cuba (very different, but residential). In addition Poblado is on the mountains, meanwhile Laureles is in the valley, therefore Poblado can get "cold" from time to time.
I used AirBnb, but pay attention when you book, be sure you read the notes. Previously I booked a place to discover after I had to pay 100 k for every guest I had. Which I didn't. I just left the place. If you book an hotel, be sure you can bring guests in your room. I heard by some members there is COVID supplement in some cases. I can't confirm it's true, but these people know what you are here for and they try to get all they can from your pocket.
I don't like casas, neither I like the love hotels, so if I have the opportunity I bring the girls at my place. Sometimes I do errands in El Centro, I try one or two girls, and if I like particularly one I invite her to my place a few days later.
I usually go for the best restaurants in the city, doesn't matter if I have to take a taxi. They are cheap, even the best. I take a taxi usually when the ETA is more than 15/20 minutes, otherwise I walk. In Laureles there are many restaurants, and most of them are concentrated in a couple of areas. I have been to Carmen the other day, which is considered one of the best restaurant in the city. I spent less than 40 dollars for a starter, a main course and postres. Other places I recommend are Barbaro Cocina Primitiva, and if you want to try a peculiar, very thin pizza, made with high quality ingredients, there is this restaurant called Ammazza, which is great IMHO. Also worth a check Saludpan. It's a good place for an alternative lunch. Mondongo offer huge portions, but the quality is not great. I have been there once and I will not repeat.
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2494299]So your point is that I should carry my phone and 1 million so if they rob me, they are going to be happy and they leave me alone?[/QUOTE]You should always have some money to give. If you have only 20 k, nobody would believe it, they could shoot you or hurt you just to cut the story short. Have a reasonable amount, give it, and that's it.
Have a phone with you, as everyone has a phone, but buy it cheap if you don't want to risk.
I was never robbered by two guys with gun on a motorbike, but in such a case I would be happy to have 100k in my wallet and a cheap phone instead of my Samsung.
Who attempted to rob me in a street of Bogota was a small group of teens with a small knife. They run away after 1 min, but they were not dangerous. It can be worse.
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2494299]
Most the time, if there are people around, they will just walk away. Yours are just fantasies. ...... Please get back to reality.[/QUOTE]Seriously, you don't know what you are talking about. Medellin is not Naples. This is not Gomorra. Don't think you can lecture people who has spent years in Medellin. Jjbee62 knows the place, you don't have gathered his experience yet.
Go to Medellin, enjoy without being paranoid, take basic precautions and you will be fine, but do not think you are smarter than others or you may risk to pay the price. The probability of incident may be not high, but the risk size is huge.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2494265]Perhaps you ought to look at all of these posts in a different light. It's not that the board members with lot's of time spent on the ground in Medellin are trying to scare anyone with what they have witnessed / experienced, but more to warn others of the dangers that lurk, and hopefully provide some advice and things to be aware of so that other board members avoid becoming a victim.[/QUOTE]
EXACTLY. Well said.
[QUOTE=Kafka;2494237]It's not dangerous if you know what you aredoing.[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately, not everyone has the experience to know what they are doing. We advise caution, simply stated.
Cali and the surrounding Valle de Cauca department have severe long standing security problems. Armed rebel groups that actively operate there don't present much risk to our constituency but the rampant robbery and petty crime do. When I worked in Colombia my company had to tailor its operations to avoid situations that would involve employees making intercity trips. We also had problems getting vendors and support organizations to visit our facilities during afternoon hours for fear their employees would end up on the wrong side of a traffic jam that could keep them out after dark.
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2494447]Cali and Medellin are also different. Last I heard Cali was more dangerous. And I would not be surprised if Cali centro is dangerous. Everyone I know from Cali has been held up at gunpoint at some time, mostly while driving, including just coming in from the airport on a shuttle bus. But, before there is an outcry. I don't know that many people from Cali, so I'm sure someone will have had a great time there, no problems at all, and spent all kinds of time in Centro.[/QUOTE]
I was not talking about live location.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2494377]I think he is not talking about tracking live location.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2494447]Cali and Medellin are also different. Last I heard Cali was more dangerous.[/QUOTE]This is not a competition. LOL. The point I was trying to make is people who give advice are sharing real experience because they have actually been there and often. Just take that into consideration and do whatever one pleases. It is an unique sight and experience.
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2494386]I have been "en el centro" at from 20:30 to 21:40 on Sunday. I don't know if it's because it was Sunday, but all the chicas were gone. Only the few working in front of the bars were still there. Some of them. I can say I have seen just 10% of the girls I have seen Saturday afternoon. I think the best time is between 16 and 19, after most of the chicas leave.
I have seen a monger there, speaking with two girls, maybe around 9 PM? He had a small backpack. One of you guys?
I didn't let anyone near me. I have been really careful to change path when two guys or a group was 30 meters away from me. Police was there, not many policemen, but it was there. And to be honest "el centro" was empty. No girls in Veracruz, no girls in Plaza Botero, I mean just 5. A few zombies around, real zombies, like in The Walking Dead. One was walking dragging his leg, he was like in the tv series.
Well, that's my last night visit there, but I will return between 16 and 19.[/QUOTE]You learn fast. You can also try go in the morning. You may find different girls working. This is only the outskirt of where the zombies show up.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2494340]That is a fair question. You can add these destinations to the list: Curacao, St. Maarten, Aruba, Spain.[/QUOTE]I know my Conejitas girl wen to St Maarten to work at at the strip club there, they import Colombian girls for a few months at a time.
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2494299]So your point is that I should carry my phone and 1 million so if they rob me, they are going to be happy and they leave me alone? Because this is what you have just said. Instead I'm doing the exact opposite. I'm not carrying my phone and I'm carrying what I'm going to need for the hours I'm in el centro. Carrying 6 millions is not really smart, isn't it? There is no reason for that. Credit and debit card are accepted everywhere. And if I'm carrying such an amount, which is not going to happen, I take a taxi. It's not even smart doing your errands "en el centro" with your $1000 phone. If you know you can get robbed, you go around with nothing, so that's what they are going to rob, just the cash you have with you. If you don't have an expensive watch, you don't have to worry when your arm is outside the window of car, because no one will try to take it from you. People are not shooting at you because you don't have nothing. It happened, but it's not the rule for sure. It might happen if you are opposing resistance that you get stabbed or shot, and I don't even think it's going to happen all the time. Most the time, if there are people around, they will just walk away. Yours are just fantasies. You should do some days in a prison here in Colombia to understand why people don't get stabbed any minute. If you hand over what you have and you show you don't have nothing else, there is no reason they should hurt you. If it happens, then it was your destiny. They take what you have, as fast as they can and they run away. Please get back to reality.[/QUOTE]You're going to have to dig up some old memories. You seem to have forgotten what you posted which started all of this.
You suggested you were going to go walk around the deserted streets of El Centro after midnight with only enough money for a taxi, just to prove it's not dangerous. Do you remember? Everything I've said is based upon that claim. It's not based on walking around conducting your business at noon or 6 pm. It's based upon walking around, with no purpose, in empty streets after midnight. Can you remain focused on that for about 3 minutes.
If you have absolutely no purpose to be in El Centro, particularly after midnight, particularly away from where the people are, you should not be there. There is absolutely nothing to gain from the excursion. The same is true anywhere in the city. If you're just going to a part of the city to prove crime never happens, and if it does, the thieves are basically decent fellows who are always 100% reasonable and polite, head up to Paris, Manrique or Milagro for your midnight stroll.
If you decide to take such a stroll, for no purpose other than to validate your opinion about the thieves in El Centro, you're being foolish. However, if there were laws against foolishness we would all be in jail. You don't need to take 1 million pesos and your phone. 150 k, especially if you include your small bills, should be enough for them to grab and run away.
Because, grab it and run away is what you want them to do in the event someone does rob you.
You know what, you do it your way. I'm absolutely certain the nice guy with the gun will be very understanding.
Could you do us all one favor? Before you take your "after midnight nothing dangerous here stroll", put a piece of paper in your pocket that says "Apparently I was wrong. " That way when they find the body, we'll be able to identify you from the news report.
[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2494333]Up, not down.
Jajajaja, couldn't resist.[/QUOTE]Thank you.
Depending on who took them. Some of it is trafficking. They get the girls to agree to go to Mexico to work, but then only give the girls enough to live on and not what was promised, stranding them there for months.
Some are legitimate pimping situations. Some are taken solo by guys. Some go on their own because they can make more money in Mexico.
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2494386]I have been "en el centro" at from 20:30 to 21:40 on Sunday. I don't know if it's because it was Sunday, but all the chicas were gone. Only the few working in front of the bars were still there. Some of them. I can say I have seen just 10% of the girls I have seen Saturday afternoon. I think the best time is between 16 and 19, after most of the chicas leave.
I have seen a monger there, speaking with two girls, maybe around 9 PM? He had a small backpack. One of you guys?
I didn't let anyone near me. I have been really careful to change path when two guys or a group was 30 meters away from me. Police was there, not many policemen, but it was there. And to be honest "el centro" was empty. No girls in Veracruz, no girls in Plaza Botero, I mean just 5. A few zombies around, real zombies, like in The Walking Dead. One was walking dragging his leg, he was like in the tv series.
Well, that's my last night visit there, but I will return between 16 and 19.[/QUOTE]Best time is between 4 and 7 as you have surmised. There basically is a shift change, a sort of overlap between the daytime Chicas and nighttime Chicas. Sunday's are the worst days to monger in El Centro, albeit there are some part time Chicas that do come out during the daytime that have normal jobs during the week to make some extra money. As far as avoiding people, well it sounds as though your an obvious gringo and probably smart to do this, especially during the evening, however during prime time, 4-7 PM it will be harder for you to avoid people.
You are better off utilizing tinder or exploring casas. They are all over.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2494519]You learn fast. You can also try go in the morning. You may find different girls working. This is only the outskirt of where the zombies show up.[/QUOTE].
No arm dune. I will sik my stanford university daughtar on yu LOL.
[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2494333]Up, not down.
Jajajaja, couldn't resist.[/QUOTE].
I think they stayed a week and half. Just was only able to see edited girls having fun video on status. Want to make sure I am not dealing with a cartel girl LOL.
[QUOTE=MMHikeus;2494360]I know a few Medellin girls who went to Mexico. They went to "work" there. They mostly see Mexican men. Apparently, the pay is better. They get moved to different cities. I know of a girl stuck in Mexico after the covid shutdown, but was able to return after the Colombian government allowed their citizens bank in.[/QUOTE].
Talking to a Facebook chick, I countered her with a much lower offer (more in line with what a local would pay). Her response was "Eres un gringo why. Pagas tan. Poco y tu tienes dinero". I laughed so hard at that, first time a chica admitted that to me. If more of us banded together and stopped paying these ridiculous prices we can get Facebook chicas for local pricing but I doubt that happens. They all band together on pricing but we can't do that.
Just wanted to recommend this video of el centro. If you're planning to visit its a great view.
It's from this week, made by a "paisa" with good humor and information, the language is Spanish.
[URL]https://youtu.be/6TGWJJPaDCM[/URL]
I'm Off.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2494547]You are better off utilizing tinder or exploring casas. They are all over..[/QUOTE]Not everyone is going to agree with you that utilizing Tinder or exploring casa's is better than El Centro. Just because you don't like El Centro doesn't mean it's better or worse than Tinder, Casa's, or Fayboo Chicas. And I am surprised quite frankly that El Centro doesn't appeal to you in that it's the cheapest option available for sex in Medellin, and is a "cheap charlie's" paradise.
But for most guys on this board there are numerous reasons it's a no go for them, and understandably so, but at the end of the day it all depends on how guys like to monger. So telling other members not to waste their time should be prefaced with specific reasons for not going there. Such as it's dangerous being an obvious foreigner there, you have no Spanish speaking skills, the quality of the girls can be very poor, too many weird people walking around, it's filthy and dirty. These in essence are the reasons it's a no go for most members, yet for some these are not an impediment. Some guys want things served to them on a platter, kind of like going to a casa and making a selection. Or calling room service, aka having a Tinder / Fayboo Chica come over. While others like to go on the hunt, lurk, and cruise the streets looking for Chicas.
How much is the dues LOL.
[QUOTE=KillaCam11;2494565]Talking to a Facebook chick, I countered her with a much lower offer (more in line with what a local would pay). Her response was "Eres un gringo why. Pagas tan. Poco y tu tienes dinero". I laughed so hard at that, first time a chica admitted that to me. If more of us banded together and stopped paying these ridiculous prices we can get Facebook chicas for local pricing but I doubt that happens. They all band together on pricing but we can't do that.[/QUOTE].
St maarten has a nice little strip with bars where girls do there thing. Real close to cruise stop.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2494527]I know my Conejitas girl wen to St Maarten to work at at the strip club there, they import Colombian girls for a few months at a time.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2494480]
I usually go for the best restaurants in the city, doesn't matter if I have to take a taxi. They are cheap, even the best. I take a taxi usually when the ETA is more than 15/20 minutes, otherwise I walk. In Laureles there are many restaurants, and most of them are concentrated in a couple of areas. I have been to Carmen the other day, which is considered one of the best restaurant in the city. I spent less than 40 dollars for a starter, a main course and postres. Other places I recommend are Barbaro Cocina Primitiva, and if you want to try a peculiar, very thin pizza, made with high quality ingredients, there is this restaurant called Ammazza, which is great IMHO. Also worth a check Saludpan. It's a good place for an alternative lunch. Mondongo offer huge portions, but the quality is not great. I have been there once and I will not repeat.[/QUOTE]La Causa, El Correo, and Cambria are favorites of mine.
[QUOTE=TvFan;2494579]Just wanted to recommend this video of el centro.
[URL]https://youtu.be/6TGWJJPaDCM[/URL]
I'm Off.[/QUOTE]Great video recommendation. It's nice to be able to experience things without really being there. Doing that thing in the centro. From the looks Of the neighborhood I can't tell the difference from the Cali centro.
Man I have to say goodbye to the forum. I have to go work lol. Great community lots of fun keep it up. Too funny rolf.
So, today I have been witness of two episodes en el centro. Before I have seen a group of chicas discussing. One of them was losing blood from one hand. I didn't assist at the event, so I don't know if it was a fight or something else. Police was around, but apparently no one called.
About one hour later between Veracruz Church and Plaza Botero, a man in his fifty with a backpack has been robbed of his phone by two guys. I didn't see any weapons, but the man was on the ground trying to hold his phone, but the two guys took it from him and ran away. I can't say exactly because he was wearing a mask, but considering he had a backpack, my guess is that he was a tourist. Most of the tourists I have seen had a backpack.
So, once again, if you go to El Centro, leave your phone in the hotel, and if you have it, just don't use it. And bring with you just the money you need for a couple of shots.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2494532]You're going to have to dig up some old memories. You seem to have forgotten what you posted which started all of this.[/QUOTE]It might look like a paradox, but yesterday I was there really late, and no one was there. When the closest person is at 20 meters from you, you don't feel really in danger. On the contrary, during the day, there are so many people around, that you need to stay on alert all the time, especially when you pass by a group of guys or you just cross the path with them. After nine Plaza Botero is more like a desert of zombies.
[QUOTE=KillaCam11;2494565]Talking to a Facebook chick, I countered her with a much lower offer (more in line with what a local would pay). Her response was "Eres un gringo why. Pagas tan. Poco y tu tienes dinero". I laughed so hard at that, first time a chica admitted that to me. If more of us banded together and stopped paying these ridiculous prices we can get Facebook chicas for local pricing but I doubt that happens. They all band together on pricing but we can't do that.[/QUOTE]I'm active on Facebook since yesterday, and I might have a nurse interested. How much do you offer? I asked this question the other day but I didn't receive any answer, or maybe I missed it.
I really like your taste in restaurants. Hit me up in private message if you would like a few recommendations I think you would enjoy.
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2494480]I do stay in Laureles, which I prefer to Poblado, not because La 70, but because it remembers me "El Vedado" in Cuba (very different, but residential). In addition Poblado is on the mountains, meanwhile Laureles is in the valley, therefore Poblado can get "cold" from time to time.
I used AirBnb, but pay attention when you book, be sure you read the notes. Previously I booked a place to discover after I had to pay 100 k for every guest I had. Which I didn't. I just left the place. If you book an hotel, be sure you can bring guests in your room. I heard by some members there is COVID supplement in some cases. I can't confirm it's true, but these people know what you are here for and they try to get all they can from your pocket.
I don't like casas, neither I like the love hotels, so if I have the opportunity I bring the girls at my place. Sometimes I do errands in El Centro, I try one or two girls, and if I like particularly one I invite her to my place a few days later.
I usually go for the best restaurants in the city, doesn't matter if I have to take a taxi. They are cheap, even the best. I take a taxi usually when the ETA is more than 15/20 minutes, otherwise I walk. In Laureles there are many restaurants, and most of them are concentrated in a couple of areas. I have been to Carmen the other day, which is considered one of the best restaurant in the city..[/QUOTE]
Full disclosure, I am a Centro rat so no one should consider me an objective source. Real talk, Centro is the low end. Even Colombian web sites like this one disparage it. We talk about it a lot on here but the vast majority of the clients are Colombian laborers who earn very low wages even by Colombia standards. Playing the Centro game is a lengthy and risky treasure hunt. It really is not for everyone, just like Loutron is not for everyone. Albeit for a different reason. If you have experience or grew up in a marginal urban setting you will not feel disoriented in Centro. If you are from a more sheltered background it will be a massive culture shock. Familiarity with street life is in my opinion much more important than the ability to conduct meaningful conversations with people in Centro.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2494547]You are better off utilizing tinder or exploring casas. They are all over..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2494486]I was not talking about live location.[/QUOTE]It doesn't really matter. You location, even if static, can be tracked in 3 ways: 1) via GPS; 2) through the cell your phone is connected; 3) based on your IP address. Ordered by accuracy, from the most accurate to the less one. For example, if I know your IP I can do a traceroute and understand, most likely, in which city you are, and which provider you are using, but I can't guess your exact physical location.
None of this is possible if you give away your number and you communicate with WhatsApp. On WhatsApp, for example, messages are sent through a server, it's not a peer to peer application, it uses the Jabber protocol, so your IP is not known to the client (the other person's phone). On other applications, well it depends. But here everyone is using WhatsApp, so don't be afraid. Just don't click on any links they may send you. That way they can potentially track your IP, but this is not a country off hackers, they are not going to do much with your IP, which is the IP of your local wireless network or the one assigned by Claro or Movistar, depending by the operator you use here.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2494501]This is not a competition. LOL. The point I was trying to make is people who give advice are sharing real experience because they have actually been there and often. Just take that into consideration and do whatever one pleases. It is an unique sight and experience.[/QUOTE]I've never been to Cali, but walked a lot in Medellin centro. It can be a different world one block to the next. I do know that there are places I avoid, even in the daytime, and on the other hand places I have walked at night to get back to the metro. I have my favored routes, I stay alert, and have never had a problem. But I still believe it is a dangerous area especially at night. But at least it is the type of area that can keep you alert.
Walking in Poblado, or on la setenta, or on 33rd may give you a false sense of security. You still need to be alert. I've been sized up on la setenta at least once. Guy decided it wasn't worth it, not that I'm intimidating, but combination of surroundings, I didn't look that rich perhaps, or perhaps I had a look that it would be him or me, and even though he would have the advantage it wasn't worth the chance.
Sure, do whatever you please. But some of my fellow travellers here look like ducks in a shooting gallery when I see them in centro. I just don't want that much attention.
GI Jane holds down the Number Five spot in my line-up with "Best Body. " Every time I look at her I think to myself, how can she possibly be Number Five with a Nine body? Well, I've posted photos of girls Numbers Two thru Four so her competition is tuff. She smokes cigarettes which is not terrible but I don't and none of the chicas above her smoke. She brings free cocaine to the party but I am not into the white stuff. And her face is cute but not as cute as three of the girls above her. But that body. I am not a boob man but her chest is exceptional. She is at her pudgiest in the first photo with the red skirt but still looks spectacular. She's weighs a little less in the rest of the photos but who's counting? She definitely is capable of having the most orgasms per unit time of any of my girls. The single hottest session I have ever had in Medellin was with her but she's not consistent. So many variables. You don't have to agree with me about her body. There's a lot of personal preference that goes into that so let's not debate pointless issues. In the second photo, she has one of the cutest pussy gaps I've seen. I have taken every photo I have posted so far, except for the nightgown, she sent that to me so you may already have a copy too, jajaja. She is sitting on a dildo in that photo, you can barely see the pink between her legs.
She's works full-time in her family business. I am still looking for that pussy photo of her I mentioned before that you will never forget.
I believe I have been descriptive on my thoughts of centro. But let me confine it to the veracruz alley / short stretch carrera 53 to the corner. Let me describe the hunt. You can thank jjbee for this analogy. Its like digging in a garbage bin praying to find fresh food. Now the other portion of Centro is great. Local food, fruits, shopping but no one talks about that. About me I am cheapy charlie to a degree. I have class to a degree. But I like girly girly girls, fashionable, soft looking, soft tone, safe and uplifting environments. Ratchet is not for me. I cannot linger and be comfortable in that environment. So my thoughts is how could any other person be that's not force to survive in those conditions. What sickness attracts him there and allow him to get comfortable. Well surfer did I get detailed enough LOL
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2494616]Not everyone is going to agree with you that utilizing Tinder or exploring casa's is better than El Centro. Just because you don't like El Centro doesn't mean it's better or worse than Tinder, Casa's, or Fayboo Chicas. And I am surprised quite frankly that El Centro doesn't appeal to you in that it's the cheapest option available for sex in Medellin, and is a "cheap charlie's" paradise.
But for most guys on this board there are numerous reasons it's a no go for them, and understandably so, but at the end of the day it all depends on how guys like to monger. So telling other members not to waste their time should be prefaced with specific reasons for not going there. Such as it's dangerous being an obvious foreigner there, you have no Spanish speaking skills, the quality of the girls can be very poor, too many weird people walking around, it's filthy and dirty. These in essence are the reasons it's a no go for most members, yet for some these are not an impediment. Some guys want things served to them on a platter, kind of like going to a casa and making a selection. Or calling room service, aka having a Tinder / Fayboo Chica come over. While others like to go on the hunt, lurk, and cruise the streets looking for Chicas.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2494663]
Sure, do whatever you please. But some of my fellow travellers here look like ducks in a shooting gallery when I see them in centro. I just don't want that much attention.[/QUOTE]Zeos, my apologies. Although I was replying to your post but that statement was not directed to you. It was to BMs who think people are trying to scarce them.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2494547]You are better off utilizing tinder or exploring casas. They are all over.[/QUOTE]The same thing can be said about El Centro. I don't limit myself to any one place. It won't bother me if it is gone. I don't look at the cost the same way you do. What you think is cheap is actually expensive to me, and vice versa.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2494547] Its like digging in a garbage bin praying to find fresh food.[/QUOTE]
Isn't that how Tinder works? In Centro, you don't have to dig. You can just sit there to wait for the food to be served and eat what you like. LOL.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2494703]Now the other portion of Centro is great. Local food, fruits, shopping but no one talks about that.[/QUOTE]I have posted about it and that is one reason being there and being out at night. It is quite lively actually.
Wise words indeed, I too have been very lucky around Centro considering how much time I spend there. I remember the first time it became clear to me how dangerous it must really be. After having been warned, and after having spent time there for a couple of years or so, one day I was walking along Carrera 47 toward Parque de Bolívar. It was late morning so the street was still fairly deserted. A woman approaching me from the opposite direction abruptly crossed the street before continuing to walk past me on the opposite sidewalk. That is when it hit me. She was genuinely afraid to get within grabbing distance of me. Trust the locals, they know.
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2494663]I've never been to Cali, but walked a lot in Medellin centro. It can be a different world one block to the next. I do know that there are places I avoid, even in the daytime, and on the other hand places I have walked at night to get back to the metro. I have my favored routes, I stay alert, and have never had a problem. But I still believe it is a dangerous area especially at night. But at least it is the type of area that can keep you alert.
Walking in Poblado, or on la setenta, or on 33rd may give you a false sense of security. You still need to be alert. I've been sized up on la setenta at least once. Guy decided it wasn't worth it, not that I'm intimidating, but combination of surroundings, I didn't look that rich perhaps, or perhaps I had a look that it would be him or me, and even though he would have the advantage it wasn't worth the chance.
Sure, do whatever you please. But some of my fellow travellers here look like ducks in a shooting gallery when I see them in centro. I just don't want that much attention.[/QUOTE]
I cannot debate your response. It all makes sense. I am just one voice of many offering a perspective. We agree to disagree without anymosity.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2494726]The same thing can be said about El Centro. I don't limit myself to any one place. It won't bother me if it is gone. I don't look at the cost the same way you do. What you think is cheap is actually expensive to me, and vice versa.Your Centro is my lleras parque unfortunately at a higher cost but better environment.
Isn't that how Tinder works? In Centro, you don't have to dig. You can just sit there to wait for the food to be served and eat what you like. LOL.
I have posted about it and that is one reason being there and being out at night. It is quite lively actually.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Blakman;2494703]I believe I have been descriptive on my thoughts of centro. But let me confine it to the veracruz alley / short stretch carrera 53 to the corner. Let me describe the hunt. You can thank jjbee for this analogy. Its like digging in a garbage bin praying to find fresh food. Now the other portion of Centro is great. Local food, fruits, shopping but no one talks about that. About me I am cheapy charlie to a degree. I have class to a degree. But I like girly girly girls, fashionable, soft looking, soft tone, safe and uplifting environments. Ratchet is not for me. I cannot linger and be comfortable in that environment. So my thoughts is how could any other person be that's not force to survive in those conditions. What sickness attracts him there and allow him to get comfortable. Well surfer did I get detailed enough LOL.[/QUOTE]I appreciate your thoughts and detailed analogy of El Centro, in essence your calling the Veracruz area a place for mongers who are Dumpster Divers.
The area you described, lets call it the Veracruz Alley with the glass covered sidewalk and the hangout spot for the shemales is probably the very best spot to hang your hat in El Centro while Dumpster Diving. Thru this area every single hooker who works the area walks thru there either in route to the Love Motels and the bars, and lots of girls take laps walking around and thru the area to Botero and the surrounding areas so there is always a lot of foot traffic in the area. Now granted there are some very deplorable looking girls that line this passageway, but there also is a continuous steady stream of girls cruising and walking thru this area. Forgetting that this is not a safe and uplifiting environment, there are contrary to what you think soft tone / looking girly girls there, albeit they won't be dressed to the nine.
So setting aside the enviornment from which you pull a woman from, once your in a bedroom and the clothes are off, how would one know where they were found, whether it be Tinder, Fayboo, or Lleras. And let's take it a step further, imagine being with someone who doesn't negotiate about taxi money, or perhaps have a set menu or rules, and so on like those from Tinder / Fayboo. I remember encountering a candy girl in the alley, totally covered up wearing a dirty jogging outfit, no make-up, and once in the room behold a beautiful naked slim 22 year old Morena with no rules, tight and wet. So if you set aside where the girls are encountered and how they are dressed would you call someone who dumpster dives in El Centro sick, I don't think so. And the thought of paying a Fayboo / Tinder Chica 150 K-200 K plus taxi money for what can be had for a third of that I think would be quite a lure for a cheap charlie.
Albeit Centro is not going to work for most mongers with the reasons being that the monger sticks out like a sore thrumb being an obviuos foreigner and will feel uncomfortable there, may have limited Spanish speaking skills and not accustomed to going with locals versus Fayboo / Tinder Chicas, and no stomach for the filth, grime, stench, zombies, and others in the area makes sense.
It's all a matter of personal preference and tolerance, being able to sort thru things, being able to put aside mis-conceptions, and open to experiencing the unexpected, and new things.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2494557]I think they stayed a week and half. Just was only able to see edited girls having fun video on status. Want to make sure I am not dealing with a cartel girl LOL..[/QUOTE]There is an "organization" that recruits and facilitates this. Not sure if it is the narco cartel or their affiliates. Not even sure if they are Colombian or Mexican organizations. The few girls I know who went to Mexico seem to have gone there after they turned 18. At least none of them complained about the experience, one did say that the recruitment pitch doesn't always match the actual experience. I think they get the passports and glamour shots done. Not sure what the revenue sharing is like.
The one girl that was stuck in Mexico due to covid, used to post pictures and videos from Mexico. It was either a bunch of girls hanging out in an apartment doing makeup or smoking and generally chilling out, or a bunch of girls all dressed up and partying on boats or other party locations. Don't remember seeing guys in the videos but I am sure those are working parties. She is back in Colombia now. Seems to have made it back safely.
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2494635]So, today I have been witness of two episodes en el centro. Before I have seen a group of chicas discussing. One of them was losing blood from one hand. I didn't assist at the event, so I don't know if it was a fight or something else. Police was around, but apparently no one called.
About one hour later between Veracruz Church and Plaza Botero, a man in his fifty with a backpack has been robbed of his phone by two guys. I didn't see any weapons, but the man was on the ground trying to hold his phone, but the two guys took it from him and ran away. I can't say exactly because he was wearing a mask, but considering he had a backpack, my guess is that he was a tourist. Most of the tourists I have seen had a backpack.
So, once again, if you go to El Centro, leave your phone in the hotel, and if you have it, just don't use it. And bring with you just the money you need for a couple of shots.[/QUOTE]You probably saw a Colombian getting robbed. Lots and lots of Colombians have backpacks to carry umbrellas, jackets, and other stuff in them. If it had been a tourist, an obvious foreigner, they would of taken the backpack as well thinking that it was full of gold. When someone has a phone in their hand it's much easier to steal then wrestling a backpack off of someone.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2494638]I really like your taste in restaurants. Hit me up in private message if you would like a few recommendations I think you would enjoy.[/QUOTE]I can't, I'm still a regular member. I guess to PM you need to be a senior. Anyway, yesterday I visited El Cielo. It was great, highly recommended! I went for the menu degustation, which is 190000 or something like that. Another level. Superior restaurant with creative cousin.
It's a good place to go to just observe people. And be a touruat. But if you give that looking for something vibe you're going to get in trouble. Locals can smell it. I say that out of experience cuz I've been in some of the world situations in Haiti the Dominican republic in the other places with no problems, but looking lost in El Centro not a good idea
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2494795]I appreciate your thoughts and detailed analogy of El Centro, in essence your calling the Veracruz area a place for mongers who are Dumpster Divers.
The area you described, lets call it the Veracruz Alley with the glass covered sidewalk and the hangout spot for the shemales is probably the very best spot to hang your hat in El Centro while Dumpster Diving. Thru this area every single hooker who works the area walks thru there either in route to the Love Motels and the bars, and lots of girls take laps walking around and thru the area to Botero and the surrounding areas so there is always a lot of foot traffic in the area. Now granted there are some very deplorable looking girls that line this passageway, but there also is a continuous steady stream of girls cruising and walking thru this area. Forgetting that this is not a safe and uplifiting environment, there are contrary to what you think soft tone / looking girly girls there, albeit they won't be dressed to the nine.
So setting aside the enviornment from which you pull a woman from, once your in a bedroom and the clothes are off, how would one know where they were found, whether it be Tinder, Fayboo, or Lleras. And let's take it a step further, imagine being with someone who doesn't negotiate about taxi money, or perhaps have a set menu or rules, and so on like those from Tinder / Fayboo. I remember encountering a candy girl in the alley, totally covered up wearing a dirty jogging outfit, no make-up, and once in the room behold a beautiful naked slim 22 year old Morena with no rules, tight and wet. So if you set aside where the girls are encountered and how they are dressed would you call someone who dumpster dives in El Centro sick, I don't think so. And the thought of paying a Fayboo / Tinder Chica 150 K-200 K plus taxi money for what can be had for a third of that I think would be quite a lure for a cheap charlie.
Albeit Centro is not going to work for most mongers with the reasons being that the monger sticks out like a sore thrumb being an obviuos foreigner and will feel uncomfortable there, may have limited Spanish speaking skills and not accustomed to going with locals versus Fayboo / Tinder Chicas, and no stomach for the filth, grime, stench, zombies, and others in the area makes sense.
It's all a matter of personal preference and tolerance, being able to sort thru things, being able to put aside mis-conceptions, and open to experiencing the unexpected, and new things.[/QUOTE]
I stumbled across this very recent video taken inside Gusto. This is from last Friday. I have to admit that there is some nice eye candy in this place.
I am not a huge fan of this place for the obvious reason that the poontang is overpriced, the drinks are overpriced, plus I got a little peed off the last time I was there I went outside for a few minutes to track a hot sweet chica's I had seen in the park from Gusto balcony and get her number to negotiate a session later and when I came back they wanted me to stand in line again, it was not worth all that.
It is common knowledge that a chica will go home with you all night for $200 - BMs have suggested that this can be negotiated down especially as the night winds down. That is almost twice as much as you can probably negotiate with a FB chica or even some of the SWs walking around in Parque Lleras. And the El Centro guys heads are exploding even at those prices.
This is a "high rollers" place where people who have the money and not only do they not mind spending in they want to spend the money. Get your bottle service and little VIP area and be surrounded by hot chicas. Dance with them and pick one to take home and spend all night driving her head into the headboard. That is not my scene (except for the last part about trying to drive her head through the headboard) but I am not judging.
Again I repeat that I do not recommend this place because personally I have done my hours and hours of research on FB and when I am on vacation I am lazy spoiled bastard who would rather sit in my room and get room service by getting on FB or my contacts in Whatsapp. If I were not a lazy bastard I would probably develop a plan to walk the spots in El Centro.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zcIkywvx08&t=314s[/URL]
My friend who is a local told me a robbery made the news there. Guy was drugged through a cookie. They took his credit cards and made off with 30 million cop through purchases and cash withdrawals.
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2494637]I'm active on Facebook since yesterday, and I might have a nurse interested. How much do you offer? I asked this question the other day but I didn't receive any answer, or maybe I missed it.[/QUOTE]It depends on some factors but I usually start at 150 k + 20 k taxi fees for a short time and I negotiate to be sure that I get BBBJ. And be sure they give GFE. That is just an average looking chica and for the basics. Hotter chicas will ask for more, 200 k is a norm for a lot of hot chicas who have regular customers, and there are some smoking hot chicas that have reputations for performing like porn stars who want even more.
[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2494855]I stumbled across this very recent video taken inside Gusto. This is from last Friday. I have to admit that there is some nice eye candy in this place.
I am not a huge fan of this place for the obvious reason that the poontang is overpriced, the drinks are overpriced, plus I got a little peed off the last time I was there I went outside for a few minutes to track a hot sweet chica's I had seen in the park from Gusto balcony and get her number to negotiate a session later and when I came back they wanted me to stand in line again, it was not worth all that.
It is common knowledge that a chica will go home with you all night for $200 - BMs have suggested that this can be negotiated down especially as the night winds down. That is almost twice as much as you can probably negotiate with a FB chica or even some of the SWs walking around in Parque Lleras. And the El Centro guys heads are exploding even at those prices.
This is a "high rollers" place where people who have the money and not only do they not mind spending in they want to spend the money. Get your bottle service and little VIP area and be surrounded by hot chicas. Dance with them and pick one to take home and spend all night driving her head into the headboard. That is not my scene (except for the last part about trying to drive her head through the headboard) but I am not judging.
Again I repeat that I do not recommend this place because personally I have done my hours and hours of research on FB and when I am on vacation I am lazy spoiled bastard who would rather sit in my room and get room service by getting on FB or my contacts in Whatsapp. If I were not a lazy bastard I would probably develop a plan to walk the spots in El Centro.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zcIkywvx08&t=314s[/URL][/QUOTE]Agree this is about what it is like in Gustos, but only later like after 1030 pm or so. Perhaps you can see how the lights and booze mess with your eyes and senses and make the chicas appear more attractive than the one you see in your room in the morning, 😂. They are dolled up, and they are fishing for top $$. Performance is not guaranteed. If that's your thing have at it, but there are better and cheaper options in Medellin for those willing to put in the time and effort.
[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2494860]It depends on some factors but I usually start at 150 k + 20 k taxi fees for a short time and I negotiate to be sure that I get BBBJ. And be sure they give GFE. That is just an average looking chica and for the basics. Hotter chicas will ask for more, 200 k is a norm for a lot of hot chicas who have regular customers, and there are some smoking hot chicas that have reputations for performing like porn stars who want even more.[/QUOTE]OK, because this is what they are asking for and I was thinking it's too much, but I'm new to the game here.
One chica asked me 200 (for two hours), but she had ass and boobs done. Problem is she doesn't offer BBBJ, which is a must for me. So we didn't sign the deal. She is a nurse. I might renegotiate because she is hot.
Another one just left my place. I paid 150 + 15, a lot of kisses and BBBJ included, one hour. It was good but not so good.
Two days ago I got a prepagos for 200 + 10 (one way taxi, she paid the other) for an hour. But she liked it so much she decided to stay 2 hours. I didn't complain, just fucked her a second time. Said story, no second channel, just fingered, but she was scared. I think I might call her again.
I'm discussing with one I fucked en El Centro. She accepted 100 for 2 horas. It was 80, but she keeps raising the price. I told her 100 is the maximum I offer and she accepted. Let's see.
I'm not keen to pay more than 150 for one hour, honestly. I think we should all offer less. We make the price. Most of the colombians don't use internet, it's just us. I always offer 100, and they all complain it's not enough, but it should be enough.
These girls on FB, either they have a job, either they get clients in bars.
Anyway I still didn't have a really hot girl here. I mean, of of these girls that you say: wow! I had an 8. 5, but not a 9 or a 10. And I have seen just a couple around. Where are these girls? Do they exist? Maybe some casas? Time is kicking, I need to fuck a princess. Help me guys.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2494858]My friend who is a local told me a robbery made the news there. Guy was drugged through a cookie. They took his credit cards and made off with 30 million cop through purchases and cash withdrawals.[/QUOTE]Never accept candies from strangers, that what mum said. I don't let anyone near me, and I do not accept candies or cookies.
The pussy with pearls pic I may have a oversold a bit because it helped to be there. She walked into my hotel room in a short skirt (we had fucked on several occasions by now) plopped her tight ass down on my bed, and spread eagle to show me this. At the same time she asked, "Do you think these would sell in the United States?" I told her I would need to take a close look and some pictures, jeje. She is a seamstress by trade and family business and I understood her to say they were making these at her shop. She got up, still fully clothed. My Gringo buddy staying at the same hotel barged in, and because I knew she would without hesitation, I told her, "Show him. " She did, and he liked it and did a pretty good job of keeping a straight face.
I did not take the middle foto, she sent that one to me, in case you recognize it, jajajaa.
OK, so this has gone way off the topic of the thread. That topic was the potential for a phone number to lead curious parties to a home address. When you suggested it is not possible I cited a specific of example that in fact it is. There was nothing to dispute so that should have been that. Rather than address it directly, you veered off into obscure IT details about location tracking which, again, was not the topic. I will step over, rather than into, that rathole with this closing observation. Your reference to IP addresses does not take into account things like tor clients or VPN tunnels. We can get back onto the topic of girls now.
I think you likely already know where to go but if you don't and have a burning need to continue up and down the OSI stack, private message me and I can give you some web site addresses where people will engage with you about it at very great length.
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2494644]It doesn't really matter. You location, even if static, can be tracked in 3 ways: 1) via GPS; 2) through the cell your phone is connected; 3) based on your IP address. Ordered by accuracy, from the most accurate to the less one. For example, if I know your IP I can do a traceroute and understand, most likely, in which city you are, and which provider you are using, but I can't guess your exact physical location.
None of this is possible if you give away your number and you communicate with WhatsApp. On WhatsApp, for example, messages are sent through a server, it's not a peer to peer application, it uses the Jabber protocol, so your IP is not known to the client (the other person's phone). On other applications, well it depends. But here everyone is using WhatsApp, so don't be afraid. Just don't click on any links they may send you. That way they can potentially track your IP, but this is not a country off hackers, they are not going to do much with your IP, which is the IP of your local wireless network or the one assigned by Claro or Movistar, depending by the operator you use here.[/QUOTE]
I was quoted 250 by Erika. I thought that was high, but she told me that she isn't working and hasn't for over a year.
However, another member at Villainy reported that he has seen her a couple of months ago, so maybe she didn't like my vibe.
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1747990672024923&set=a.111695268987813&type=3&theater[/URL]
I like something about her. So I might see if we can't negotiate.
TR.
Besides Gustos in Lleras park there are a lot good places to drink and listen to music. If you want to take a break and hang out with friends it is pretty good. You can always stop in Gustos just don't order their overpriced beer and drinks. Some good places to eat around there as well.
[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2494872]Agree this is about what it is like in Gustos, but only later like after 1030 pm or so. Perhaps you can see how the lights and booze mess with your eyes and senses and make the chicas appear more attractive than the one you see in your room in the morning, 😂. They are dolled up, and they are fishing for top $$. Performance is not guaranteed. If that's your thing have at it, but there are better and cheaper options in Medellin for those willing to put in the time and effort.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2494874]OK, because this is what they are asking for and I was thinking it's too much, but I'm new to the game here.
One chica asked me 200 (for two hours), but she had ass and boobs done. Problem is she doesn't offer BBBJ, which is a must for me. So we didn't sign the deal. She is a nurse. I might renegotiate because she is hot.
Another one just left my place. I paid 150 + 15, a lot of kisses and BBBJ included, one hour. It was good but not so good.
Two days ago I got a prepagos for 200 + 10 (one way taxi, she paid the other) for an hour. But she liked it so much she decided to stay 2 hours. I didn't complain, just fucked her a second time. Said story, no second channel, just fingered, but she was scared. I think I might call her again..[/QUOTE]They way you posted before you got there I though you were a disaster waiting to happen so congrats on proving me wrong. I was pullng for you, but concerned by some of the words that come out of your moufus pre-arrival to Medellin. Anywho, you done god. For a Nine? I dunno (I don't give out tens). Mostly random good luck. One of the best looking teenagers I ever saw stopped me in Parque Botero one time and wanted to go fuck at my hotel but I couldn't at that moment. I got her number but we never hooked up. Another time, at a bar where I never saw better than a 7, one night a 9 waltzes in like it was no big deal and she was great in bed. I consider all my regular girls to be Nines, but there was no "one way" I met them. Another cream dream was a girl who was standing outside of Help in Rio near closing time with not enough money to get inside. I threw her on my back and literally carried her back to my apartment. I was just walking by at the time. My regular girls are all Nines to me but they evolved over time by keeping the best and discarding the rest. And that was one of the points I mentioned to you before you left. The time factor. Other mongers may offer you up more specifics. For me it was a process that took time to get a bunch of steady Nines (poetic). Oh, I did just think of one thing that might help. Don't ever hesitate to ask a girl you fucked for a recommendation for another girl. Always open with, "In case you are not available. . . " for the obvious reasons. She might give you a number, or you can tell her to provide your number to her friends. Tell her what you like, face, big butt, boobs, three-hole access, etc. My best ones seemed to appear when I least expected it.
Gratuitous foto and the first glimpse so far of mi Numero Uno.
Hey do any of you med cats know any Nines Or tens in Cali, Closer to the European type. I already asked in the Cali forum But had no reply.I have one 10 Cali In Facebook and one really hot seeking contact to Trade. If you're interested Don't send me any links send me the picture 1st.
In that video of giustos club in Medellin one can clearly see a guy with shorts, white sneakers, and a baseball cap.
[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2494855]I stumbled across this very recent video taken inside Gusto. This is from last Friday. I have to admit that there is some nice eye candy in this place.
I am not a huge fan of this place for the obvious reason that the poontang is overpriced, the drinks are overpriced, plus I got a little peed off the last time I was there I went outside for a few minutes to track a hot sweet chica's I had seen in the park from Gusto balcony and get her number to negotiate a session later and when I came back they wanted me to stand in line again, it was not worth all that.
It is common knowledge that a chica will go home with you all night for $200 - BMs have suggested that this can be negotiated down especially as the night winds down. That is almost twice as much as you can probably negotiate with a FB chica or even some of the SWs walking around in Parque Lleras. And the El Centro guys heads are exploding even at those prices.
This is a "high rollers" place where people who have the money and not only do they not mind spending in they want to spend the money. Get your bottle service and little VIP area and be surrounded by hot chicas. Dance with them and pick one to take home and spend all night driving her head into the headboard. That is not my scene (except for the last part about trying to drive her head through the headboard) but I am not judging.
[/QUOTE]Those are some "grande chicas".
You couldn't pay me to do them jajajajajaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2494878]I think you likely already know where to go but if you don't and have a burning need to continue up and down the OSI stack, private message me and I can give you some web site addresses where people will engage with you about it at very great length.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry, it was just a clarification, it's a professional distortion. These are thing I know a lot about. But, yes, let's get back to the girls.
Just joking
[QUOTE=Frank11;2494895]Hey do any of you med cats know any Nines Or tens in Cali, Closer to the European type. I already asked in the Cali forum But had no reply.I have one 10 Cali In Facebook and one really hot seeking contact to Trade. If you're interested Don't send me any links send me the picture 1st.
In that video of giustos club in Medellin one can clearly see a guy with shorts, white sneakers, and a baseball cap.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2494874]Anyway I still didn't have a really hot girl here. I mean, of of these girls that you say: wow! I had an 8. 5, but not a 9 or a 10. And I have seen just a couple around. Where are these girls? Do they exist? Maybe some casas? Time is kicking, I need to fuck a princess. Help me guys.[/QUOTE]You are too cheap to pay the $25 admission fee to this site? If you can have a guy hold your hand for 2-3 hours to show you some places and teach you some things it would more than pay for your $25 admission fee. You want girls names and numbers which can not be posted. FB links can but you get the point. Nobody here can post their contact information. You need to pay $25. Then maybe someone can help you.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2494895]In that video of giustos club in Medellin one can clearly see a guy with shorts, white sneakers, and a baseball cap.[/QUOTE]That was Blakman no doubt about it.
I had over 60 girls and only 4 was in the 7 to 8 range. 1 was at 220 k, 2 was at 150 k and another at a casa was for 100 k special. Lleras parque club, gusto club, maybe walking in lleras park or hooking up with a girl that has some top of the line group of friends. You see a few non pros walking who are stunners. Grocery store excetera. But I think Dominican republic has Colombia beat as far as accessible girls. Threesomes are easier in Colombia and the girls are easy to get along with and in my case great performers. You will not see an 7 or 8 in Centro. I do not care what any monger reports LOL.
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2494874]OK, because this is what they are asking for and I was thinking it's too much, but I'm new to the game here.
One chica asked me 200 (for two hours), but she had ass and boobs done. Problem is she doesn't offer BBBJ, which is a must for me. So we didn't sign the deal. She is a nurse. I might renegotiate because she is hot.
Another one just left my place. I paid 150 + 15, a lot of kisses and BBBJ included, one hour. It was good but not so good.
Two days ago I got a prepagos for 200 + 10 (one way taxi, she paid the other) for an hour. But she liked it so much she decided to stay 2 hours. I didn't complain, just fucked her a second time. Said story, no second channel, just fingered, but she was scared. I think I might call her again.
I'm discussing with one I fucked en El Centro. She accepted 100 for 2 horas. It was 80, but she keeps raising the price. I told her 100 is the maximum I offer and she accepted. Let's see.
I'm not keen to pay more than 150 for one hour, honestly. I think we should all offer less. We make the price. Most of the colombians don't use internet, it's just us. I always offer 100, and they all complain it's not enough, but it should be enough.
These girls on FB, either they have a job, either they get clients in bars.
Anyway I still didn't have a really hot girl here. I mean, of of these girls that you say: wow! I had an 8. 5, but not a 9 or a 10. And I have seen just a couple around. Where are these girls? Do they exist? Maybe some casas? Time is kicking, I need to fuck a princess. Help me guys.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Frank11;2494895]Hey do any of you med cats know any Nines Or tens in Cali, Closer to the European type. I already asked in the Cali forum But had no reply.I have one 10 Cali In Facebook and one really hot seeking contact to Trade. If you're interested Don't send me any links send me the picture 1st.
In that video of giustos club in Medellin one can clearly see a guy with shorts, white sneakers, and a baseball cap.[/QUOTE]Just visit Escoces whiskeria or Deluxe Club and see or ask what you are looking for. Prices about 450 K COP per hour now on premises or you get her number. The situation is very hot, so unless you have needed experience, better find what you need in Meddy.
Sounds on target.
[QUOTE=MMHikeus;2494798]There is an "organization" that recruits and facilitates this. Not sure if it is the narco cartel or their affiliates. Not even sure if they are Colombian or Mexican organizations. The few girls I know who went to Mexico seem to have gone there after they turned 18. At least none of them complained about the experience, one did say that the recruitment pitch doesn't always match the actual experience. I think they get the passports and glamour shots done. Not sure what the revenue sharing is like.
The one girl that was stuck in Mexico due to covid, used to post pictures and videos from Mexico. It was either a bunch of girls hanging out in an apartment doing makeup or smoking and generally chilling out, or a bunch of girls all dressed up and partying on boats or other party locations. Don't remember seeing guys in the videos but I am sure those are working parties. She is back in Colombia now. Seems to have made it back safely.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Blakman;2494918]I had over 60 girls and only 4 was in the 7 to 8 range. 1 was at 220 k, 2 was at 150 k and another at a casa was for 100 k special. Lleras parque club, gusto club, maybe walking in lleras park or hooking up with a girl that has some top of the line group of friends. You see a few non pros walking who are stunners. Grocery store excetera. But I think Dominican republic has Colombia beat as far as accessible girls. Threesomes are easier in Colombia and the girls are easy to get along with and in my case great performers. You will not see an 7 or 8 in Centro. I do not care what any monger reports LOL..[/QUOTE]Agree 100%, I would say that Mexico can even be better. Correct Colombia is good, but Russia, Mexico and Parts of Europe are all better.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2494352]Prado, especially around the metro station, is the area that makes me more nervous than any other in Medellin. I actively avoid it. It is really easy to get hemmed in there with no way to escape. When I pass through on foot I keep moving at a brisk pace and always keep a building at my side. I can't ever remember moving through there at night on foot. In fact taxi and uber drivers usually detour to avoid it at night so they don't have to stop at a traffic light. That's when the stick up boys on motorcycles or guys off the street run up on you.[/QUOTE]What? El Centro es peligroso? Lol. Ive been roaming there for about 20 years now and lets just say I enjoy the danger debate.
Its all cool and good, til its not, and thats just reality.
Anyway, heres a paisita that I met in Centro about a year ago, who in my book is pretty hot, that i keep in my stable of favoritas.
Sorry señor Blackman, but they’re out there for the skilled hunter, lol. However, you’re right, most guys should stick to FB and Gustos, Parque Lleras, etc.. I miss being the only gringo out there, jeje.
I enjoy the hunt in all the venues, but I'm an original Centro rat at heart.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2494918]. You will not see an 7 or 8 in Centro. I do not care what any monger reports LOL..[/QUOTE]I'd say some of my Centro girls were certainly at least 7's but YMMV.
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Anyway I still didn't have a really hot girl here. I mean, of of these girls that you say: wow! I had an 8. 5, but not a 9 or a 10. And I have seen just a couple around. Where are these girls? Do they exist? Maybe some casas? Time is kicking, I need to fuck a princess. Help me guys.[/QUOTE]Hey the only place I know for sure you can find a 9 or 10 is on seeking arrangement. The problem is there'll probably be less than 5 active ones and 2 of them may be a 7 or and 8. My friend got one for 300,000 For 3 hours. The other wasn't really interested in 300,000 maybe she already Another client. The rate is similar to Facebook girls which I guess is 150,000 or 200,000 for 2 hours. For people that only get laid once a week once every 2 weeks or oonce a month seeking is actually a good deal. On the other hand if you want to fuck 4 times a weekWell, you get the point.
If you want 1 of these girls and you want them faast you have to send a catchy message. Say something like I really need to hook up with you quickly so make you a higher offer. The alternative just to save your money. Desperation calls for desperate measures. Agreed Colombia is overrated. But there are some hotties in seeking in med. However I suppose a lot of people really like it because then why does this med forum have almost 50,000 posts? In some of the guys here I suppose they really love the local Exotic flavor of the girls? Maybe the guys like the low prices too. If you're not impressed with med perhaps try Ukraine The prices are similar to Colombian prices. The Difficult part In Ukraine is RRussian speakersHave it the best. Use sign language? Make a circle with the thumb and index in your left hand and then run your right hand Index finger through the circle!
Don't send any money for pictures. Don't send any money for videoconference. Confirm her identity quickly through videoconference. If not you will end up talking 2 hours to scammer.
If you talk about money or sex in the seekingg arrangement chat you will get banned. So before talking about that as for her WhatsApp and continue the conversation there.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2494616]Not everyone is going to agree with you that utilizing Tinder or exploring casa's is better than El Centro. Just because you don't like El Centro doesn't mean it's better or worse than Tinder, Casa's, or Fayboo Chicas. And I am surprised quite frankly that El Centro doesn't appeal to you in that it's the cheapest option available for sex in Medellin, and is a "cheap charlie's" paradise.
But for most guys on this board there are numerous reasons it's a no go for them, and understandably so, but at the end of the day it all depends on how guys like to monger. So telling other members not to waste their time should be prefaced with specific reasons for not going there. Such as it's dangerous being an obvious foreigner there, you have no Spanish speaking skills, the quality of the girls can be very poor, too many weird people walking around, it's filthy and dirty. These in essence are the reasons it's a no go for most members, yet for some these are not an impediment. Some guys want things served to them on a platter, kind of like going to a casa and making a selection. Or calling room service, aka having a Tinder / Fayboo Chica come over. While others like to go on the hunt, lurk, and cruise the streets looking for Chicas.[/QUOTE]This may be your best post.
I love El Centro, but I rarely monger there, just an occasional casa or strip club. However, I love the feel of El Centro. It's gritty, dirty and has its dangers, but it's real. Poblado and Laureles are great, but there you're seeing Medellin all made up wearing its best dress.
El Centro is Medellin, no makeup, no filters, wearing nothing but worn out dollar store panties.
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2494637]I'm active on Facebook since yesterday, and I might have a nurse interested. How much do you offer? I asked this question the other day but I didn't receive any answer, or maybe I missed it.[/QUOTE]There are 2 schools of thought on this.
1. Offer 100-150 k, depending on how hard you want to work. You can start lower. Most will expect you to add 20 k for a taxi.
2. I ask how much they want. Cuanto quieres? How much do you want? My response is always "siempre pago" followed by the price I want to pay. Usually 150 k. Then it's just a matter of negotiating extra for the taxi.
Standard FB rate is 150k + taxi or 200 k no taxi.
If a girl insists on her price I thank her and tell her maybe another day. If a girl mentions dollars I tell her I have pesos not dollars. If a girl mentions an hour, I tell her I don't do time limits. I prefer to take my time.
I don't negotiate extras, services or anything else. I find that most will do BBBJ. Most will stay 2 or more hours. Most will do whatever I want.
If you have certain requirements get agreement in advance.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2494703]I believe I have been descriptive on my thoughts of centro. But let me confine it to the veracruz alley / short stretch carrera 53 to the corner. Let me describe the hunt. You can thank jjbee for this analogy. Its like digging in a garbage bin praying to find fresh food. Now the other portion of Centro is great. Local food, fruits, shopping but no one talks about that. About me I am cheapy charlie to a degree. I have class to a degree. But I like girly girly girls, fashionable, soft looking, soft tone, safe and uplifting environments. Ratchet is not for me. I cannot linger and be comfortable in that environment. So my thoughts is how could any other person be that's not force to survive in those conditions. What sickness attracts him there and allow him to get comfortable. Well surfer did I get detailed enough LOL.[/QUOTE]Yes, but.
I recall you saying the thought of having sex with anyone over 30 made you physically ill. We all know what happened next.
Veracruz alley is quite often a shitshow. Between the grannies and the trannies it tends to ruin the mood. But if you make enough trips down the alley, eventually you'll spot one who looks right.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2494941]. Agreed Colombia is overrated. But there are some hotties in seeking in med. However I suppose a lot of people really like it because then why does this med forum have almost 50,000 posts?[/QUOTE]I agree, Medellíand is kinda overrated right now. I'm sure it was better in the past, but right now all the girls available at affordable prices (150 mil, $45) or below are meh in looks. All the 8+ (and sometimes even the ugly ones) are asking for +300 mil with the most basic of services. I didn't travel 2000 thousand miles to pay $90 for a boring fuck that probably won't even get me off. Centro girls are mostly ugly with maybe a few that are worth doing but the attitude is very rushed from my experience, same with casa girls.
Facebook has been alright. 60% of the girls don't bother responding even after reading the message. 20% just laugh in your face or act offended. I had a girl say "Con 150 ni me limpió el culo" after my 150 mil why taxi por dos leches offer and she was a solid 6. Of the 20% that actually accept the offer maybe 15% show up. Of the 15% that showed up 3 girls were truly worth the trip for me, not because of their looks (6-7), but because of their attitudes and sexual techniques.
All in all I released a lot of stores up leche and will probably try some other country next time.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2494933]What? El Centro es peligroso? Lol. Ive been roaming there for about 20 years now and lets just say I enjoy the danger debate.
Its all cool and good, til its not, and thats just reality.
Anyway, heres a paisita that I met in Centro about a year ago, who in my book is pretty hot, that i keep in my stable of favoritas.
Sorry seor Blackman, but theyre out there for the skilled hunter, lol. However, youre right, most guys should stick to FB and Gustos, Parque Lleras, etc.. I miss being the only gringo out there, jeje.
I enjoy the hunt in all the venues, but I'm an original Centro rat at heart.[/QUOTE]You are not the only one. I like roaming there. Today I was trying Facebook. Got two chicas, one in the afternoon, the other after dinner. Disappointed twice. The first one did the work. Both 6. I'm not happy with the results so far. In Cuba I was fuckin less, but I could find better girls. Here it's easier, but girls aren't so good looking. After you fuck 3 girls every day you want something really good. I hope tomorrow will visit me the one I met in El Centro. She is a 7 with a pretty face. She could be an 8, but she is coming from a very poor background. The environment is heavy on these girls.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2494941]. Hey the only place I know for sure you can find a 9 or 10 is on seeking arrangement.[/QUOTE]Honestly I don't want to pay for SA. I'm also getting tired of these socials. I prefer to see the girls in person. Most likely, once naked, they will not look like expected, but at least I have an idea, and I can smell them.
I know Ukraine very well. I have been there multiple times for other reasons. Girls are very attractive but the attitude is the worst and prices are not reasonable. You know, I'm 100% confident I could fuck for "free" here in Medellin if I could stay more time. I could find a girlfriend or something like that. In Ukraine find an 8-9 as a girlfriend is impossible, unless you are a 9 yourself and you are willing to spend a lot of money. Ukrainian girls are absolutely superficial, the one really attractive especially. (I think this is common all over the world).
Anyway, the reason Ukrainian girls are so expensive is because they can travel across the whole Europe without a Visa. Otherwise they could be cheap like Romanians are. The most attractive ones work in Europe, and the one you can find there, travel often. I have been on over 20 dates in Ukraine with Tinder girls. Only one was an escort, but none of them will ever tell you if you meet them on Tinder. A couple of 8, all the others between 5 and 7.5 max. I didn't have finalized much. I have seen 9 and 10 in clubs. I still remember one. OMG why didn't I approach her? I could have paid $300 for that one, she was really on another level.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2494941]. Hey the only place I know for sure you can find a 9 or 10 is on seeking arrangement. The problem is there'll probably be less than 5 active ones and 2 of them may be a 7 or and 8. My friend got one for 300,000 For 3 hours. The other wasn't really interested in 300,000 maybe she already Another client. The rate is similar to Facebook girls which I guess is 150,000 or 200,000 for 2 hours. For people that only get laid once a week once every 2 weeks or oonce a month seeking is actually a good deal. On the other hand if you want to fuck 4 times a weekWell, you get the point.
If you want 1 of these girls and you want them faast you have to send a catchy message. Say something like I really need to hook up with you quickly so make you a higher offer. The alternative just to save your money. Desperation calls for desperate measures. Agreed Colombia is overrated. But there are some hotties in seeking in med. However I suppose a lot of people really like it because then why does this med forum have almost 50,000 posts? In some of the guys here I suppose they really love the local Exotic flavor of the girls? Maybe the guys like the low prices too. If you're not impressed with med perhaps try Ukraine The prices are similar to Colombian prices. The Difficult part In Ukraine is RRussian speakersHave it the best. Use sign language? Make a circle with the thumb and index in your left hand and then run your right hand Index finger through the circle!.[/QUOTE]Overrated? You must be talking about a different Colombia. Either that or your rating system is all messed up.
For $25 a night I get a 2 bed, 2 bath apartment with a great balcony, in a safe and quiet, upscale neighborhood. Even if I was on crutches, here's a list of things within walking distance:
A full grocery store, 2 pharmacies, 3 ATMs, 8 restaurants, an office supply store, a laundry, 2 tailors, a pet supply store, 2 nail salons, 4 hair salons, a bus stop and a taxi stand.
I don't plan on being on crutches. Which means the Metro, 3 malls, 75 more restaurants, every kind of shopping you can imagine, 3 more grocery stores, ba Jumbo store, ATMs for every bank, casinos and a red light district are also within walking distance.
I can get breakfast for $1.70, lunch and dinner for $2.50, all with fresh fruit juice. Which means I can stay, eat and travel the city for under $40 per day. If I want to go the low budget route, I could manage $25 per day.
The climate, particularly in Medellin is almost perfect. There are very few flying pests to annoy you. Even the rainy season isn't too bad.
The people are genuinely friendly. They are usually polite and helpful. The women are gorgeous and dress to display their sexuality, instead of hiding it. A trip to the mall is better than a trip to most US beaches. For anyone with a spandex fetish, Ciclovia is like a pilgrimage to Mecca.
Then there's the sex. With patience and persistence you can get laid for $7. Even if you insist on paying top dollar, there's no need to pay over $200 and most guys are paying $50 or less. And no matter how much you're spending, you can find beautiful and passionate women.
Everyone has their preference. If you feel Colombia is overrated, find me a place which exceeds it in all the important categories.
I disagree on the performance from Colombian women. I got the best head there / to be more accurate very competitive head jobs. I got sexy lap dances. And chicks that stayed extra. They sometines accepted less the next go around. Theres a strategy to the colombian women. Well basically to all foreign women. I write about it in my book LOL. But it will get them to go all out for you in bed. All this while mostly being in the 70 to 100 k including taxi range. The Colombian attraction I think is abundance of newbies that's easily available.
[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2494958]I agree, Medelland is kinda overrated right now. I'm sure it was better in the past, but right now all the girls available at affordable prices (150 mil, $45) or below are meh in looks. All the 8+ (and sometimes even the ugly ones) are asking for +300 mil with the most basic of services. I didn't travel 2000 thousand miles to pay $90 for a boring fuck that probably won't even get me off. Centro girls are mostly ugly with maybe a few that are worth doing but the attitude is very rushed from my experience, same with casa girls.
Facebook has been alright. 60% of the girls don't bother responding even after reading the message. 20% just laugh in your face or act offended. I had a girl say "Con 150 ni me limpi el culo" after my 150 mil why taxi por dos leches offer and she was a solid 6. Of the 20% that actually accept the offer maybe 15% show up. Of the 15% that showed up 3 girls were truly worth the trip for me, not because of their looks (6-7), but because of their attitudes and sexual techniques.
All in all I released a lot of stores up leche and will probably try some other country next time.[/QUOTE].
From the looks of that pic. She's certainly not a hot girl. That fact you are a Brazil man surprises me of this visual you are presenting. Come better, show better, do better. Snapshot did a better jop than that. LOL
[QUOTE=Balboa;2494933]What? El Centro es peligroso? Lol. Ive been roaming there for about 20 years now and lets just say I enjoy the danger debate.
Its all cool and good, til its not, and thats just reality.
Anyway, heres a paisita that I met in Centro about a year ago, who in my book is pretty hot, that i keep in my stable of favoritas.
Sorry seor Blackman, but theyre out there for the skilled hunter, lol. However, youre right, most guys should stick to FB and Gustos, Parque Lleras, etc.. I miss being the only gringo out there, jeje.
I enjoy the hunt in all the venues, but I'm an original Centro rat at heart.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Blakman;2494781]I cannot debate your response. It all makes sense. I am just one voice of many offering a perspective. We agree to disagree without anymosity.[/QUOTE]I don't disagree with you, and I have learned a lot from your posts. I think the girls are fine but the rooms in El Centro can be disgusting. LOL. On the few times I used the ones that are outside of the plaza, the girl and I always tiptoed if we took showers. Who knows what's on the floor. We chased after the 1 clean towel after sex, I won of course. There are rooms with a big window hole on the door that everyone can peek inside. These are rooms that I probably won't go the second times.
I owe my knowledge to Pollo Negro. He showed me the rope, and sometimes I spent a lot of time hung out with him in the park. I don't think I will have the same experience if I stay elsewhere and just visit El Centro for a few laps.
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2494874]but not a 9 or a 10. And I have seen just a couple around. Where are these girls? Do they exist? Maybe some casas? Time is kicking, I need to fuck a princess. Help me guys.[/QUOTE]Have you tried Gusto? Some have reported that seeing 1 or 2 there. Another place is La Isla.
Its your money, Its your time, spend it how you see fit. From my observation, you can not find 9-10's when all you are looking for are 18-20 yr olds, skinny, European looking chics. They have not developed enough in Medellin, you haven't given them enough time to mature. Maybe you have tricked yourself into believing that just because 18 yrs old is legal, that the girl's body has fully matured, well it hasn't.
I am going to post another post soon about a friend of mine's who just left and the trip he had here, it was a different point of view and we both has an excellent time. Truth is many of the mongers who I have met, other than Nounce and Vsebudeny, only wanted girls that met the South East Asian body type and that is very rare in Colombia. Many of these Colombian women are very curvy and have nice huge butts, so if you want a 85 lb 4 foot 8 inch tall chica at age 18, you may want to try Thailand.
Then again if you want only 9 & 10's you may want to try the casa's and the agencies, many of my monger friends have told me that the Casa's have some pretty nice looking chicas on hand from time to time. The almost sure way to find the 9 & 10's is to bring more money, hit up the whatsapp groups and have the group send you photos and tell them if the girl doesn't match the photo you will send her back. Pollo Negro is out!
Excellent extra-large condoms may be purchased from dozen GuiaCereza shops scattered around Medellin. German-made Vitalis XL in black box with green trim. 8000 pesos for 3.57 x 190 mm.
[QUOTE=TresRios;2494879]I was quoted 250 by Erika. I thought that was high, but she told me that she isn't working and hasn't for over a year.
However, another member at Villainy reported that he has seen her a couple of months ago, so maybe she didn't like my vibe.
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1747990672024923&set=a.111695268987813&type=3&theater[/URL]
I like something about her. So I might see if we can't negotiate.
TR.[/QUOTE]Well that is interesting. I just checked my WhatsApp and I saw her and the very end of June. I didn't pay 250. If I remember correctly it was 200 + 1 taxi. I like Erika and she's affectionate enough.
But once you've finished she is ready to take a shower and get dressed and leave. So she isn't the cuddle-bunny afterwards that some guys like. But she does provide a very good date.
By the way, how is your Spanish? I've had some girls ask me how well I speak Spanish and I tell them that I'm learning but can speak a fair amount. They then tell me it isn't fun for them to see someone who is tied.
To a translator and they won't accept those dates unless they really 'have to'.
[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2494958]All the 8+ (and sometimes even the ugly ones) are asking for +300 mil with the most basic of services. I didn't travel 2000 thousand miles to pay $90 for a boring fuck that probably won't even get me off. Centro girls are mostly ugly with maybe a few that are worth doing but the attitude is very rushed from my experience, same with casa girls.[/QUOTE]I agree with you and Frank. Thank God we have some honest posters here. By the time, you add up the cost of the flight, the time, the hotel, and the PCR test, I would say Brazil is a better value in terms of looks and performance, and you do not need a PCR test.
There are also a lot of Colombian and Venezuelan women in Mexico. To make up the difference in cost, you would have to do at least five to ten women before you could even compare the cost of the two because Mexico is that much cheaper. Quite frankly, many of the adventurous and smart Colombian and Venezuelan women do go to Mexico.
The hit rate I had from [URL]seeking.com[/URL] was great in Colombia and it was best in Medellin although Cali sure is intriguing to me. I was getting two dates a day there when I was trolling for women and the women on [URL]seeking.com[/URL] I met were hot. I did bareback with half of them, but they were expecting between $80 and $100. Some guys here were bitching about what I paid but we live in different universes.
Half the women I saw had Iphones, and the other half had decent Android phones. I remember college tuition being like $5000 to 10,000 per year, and of the two chicas who worked, one was making $6000 per year and the other $9000 per year. I do not see these women fucking some stranger for $20.
For that price, you are going to get the Venezuelans who cannot work and the druggies.
I like to think that I am not a lodging snob but some of these places are gross beyond belief: the smell, the paper think walls, the beds are uncomfortable as hell and often are terrible for fucking. I stayed a night at the Sheraton Four Points in Medellin and it was like $50 a night and a nice place. I hooked up with one of my women there and had a good time but I registered her in advance. The hotel was super anal about Covid and the only way you would get an unregistered guest in there was paying another $50 for a hotel room. I didn't pay it here, but I racked up $200 in guest fees on this trip to boot.
Sure, I could have gotten an Uber, gone to a love motel, and had her meet me there, but I had done that before, and it is a pain in the ass. First off, I am on vacation, and secondly inevitably there will be something I forgot to bring from my hotel.
If you are going to be there for 1 month, and you have a chance to scope things out: find a place where you can bring back multiple women, lay the groundwork of finding great women who eventually want to fuck you for nothing then there are few places better.
The sugar thing worked for me, but I would not recommend it to guys who prefer variety. Maybe it will come back, but a one week trip to bang a bunch of cheap strange is not really that cheap or that great. I found most of the women giving up for cheap to be ugly or disgusting.
In women. I think she looks delicious and would scoop her up if I saw her in Centro.
Also wanted to say that one mans 6-7 is another mans 9-10. In that latest Gustos video the only thing I liked was the short one in the heels and the pleated short skirt standing back on to the bar.
But to each their own and you like what you like!!
[QUOTE=Blakman;2494990]From the looks of that pic. She's certainly not a hot girl. That fact you are a Brazil man surprises me of this visual you are presenting. Come better, show better, do better. Snapshot did a better jop than that. LOL
.[/QUOTE]
Does anyone have a link to check Cedula's, like they use at some of the hotels?
I had one earlier but it's not working now, I have a few cedula numbers from some girls and just wanted to check if their info was legit.
Be advised it does not account for "shared" or "borrowed" cedulas:
[URL]https://wsr.registraduria.gov.co/Consultas-cedulas.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=Luminus;2495090]Does anyone have a link to check Cedula's, like they use at some of the hotels?
I had one earlier but it's not working now, I have a few cedula numbers from some girls and just wanted to check if their info was legit.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Blakman;2494918]I had over 60 girls and only 4 was in the 7 to 8 range. 1 was at 220 k, 2 was at 150 k and another at a casa was for 100 k special. Lleras parque club, gusto club, maybe walking in lleras park or hooking up with a girl that has some top of the line group of friends. You see a few non pros walking who are stunners. Grocery store excetera. But I think Dominican republic has Colombia beat as far as accessible girls. Threesomes are easier in Colombia and the girls are easy to get along with and in my case great performers. You will not see an 7 or 8 in Centro. I do not care what any monger reports LOL..[/QUOTE]I have bought into the hype a few times, people like Sjobs that writes MDE is "heaven on earth."
I went to Moscow after someone told me how great it was, it wasn't.
I went to FKK after someone told me how great it was, it wasn't.
I suspect the best places to monger, are well kept secrets.
I don't like the idea of banging chicas that have 10 customers a day.
Mongers fighting for sloppy 10 the like pigs at the trough ala HK in Tijuana LOL.
Tierra Del Fuego anyone?
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2494939]I'd say some of my Centro girls were certainly at least 7's but YMMV.[/QUOTE]And I don't care what her ass looks like, she's past that point.
One of best looking girls I ever saw anywhere ever was in Parque Botero. I couldn't go fuck her at that moment like she wanted, or was it she did not have a cedula (I don't remember)? She gave me her number but we never hooked up. She did not look or act like a pro, more like a girl in a pinch needing some money in hurry.
The girl in the top right foto, in the back. I fucked her jajaja or at least a girl who looks exactly like her. My very first post here, the Wassap transcript, that's her, I am 96.5435% sure, jajajaja.
Posts with lots of fotos of girls. Good, need more or that.
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2495104]I have bought into the hype a few times, people like Sjobs that writes MDE is "heaven on earth."
I went to Moscow after someone told me how great it was, it wasn't.
I went to FKK after someone told me how great it was, it wasn't.
I suspect the best places to monger, are well kept secrets.[/QUOTE]What is it that you are looking for? To be the only guy in the city with chicks groveling all over you? That place does not exist. FKKs and Medellin are great. There are tons of friendly women that are easily accessible at an affordable price. Some people could not have a good time if you dropped them in the middle of it. There are no secrets. There is no secret tribe of virgin women waiting deep in the Amazon for you and only those you invite. Most mongers understand that hoes are for everybody and shared amongst the community.
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2495104]I don't like the idea of banging chicas that have 10 customers a day.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you are trying to be selfish and keep the hooker to yourself. Easy to know how many customers she bangs per day. Pay her for the entire day so you can be the only one. It is a service. How would they support themselves with you being the only customer? Who cares how many houses the maid has cleaned in a day or how many tires Pep Boy has changed in a day. Throw her in the shower and brush her teeth and gargle with mouthwash and she is good as new. Or this may not be the hobby for you.
I could be wrong but most girls are only getting like 1 to 2 rounds a day. Except for casas and centro maybe. But I don't see alot of traffic flowing through casas. Its actually quite discrete. Transportation plays a role, setting up babysitters, traffic. And other possible dynamics. I like the city though. Its progressive with roads and technology.
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2495104]I have bought into the hype a few times, people like Sjobs that writes MDE is "heaven on earth."
I went to Moscow after someone told me how great it was, it wasn't.
I went to FKK after someone told me how great it was, it wasn't.
I suspect the best places to monger, are well kept secrets.
I don't like the idea of banging chicas that have 10 customers a day.
Mongers fighting for sloppy 10 the like pigs at the trough ala HK in Tijuana LOL.
Tierra Del Fuego anyone?[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2495146]What is it that you are looking for? To be the only guy in the city with chicks groveling all over you? That place does not exist. FKKs and Medellin are great. There are tons of friendly women that are easily accessible at an affordable price. Some people could not have a good time if you dropped them in the middle of it. There are no secrets. There is no secret tribe of virgin women waiting deep in the Amazon for you and only those you invite. Most mongers understand that hoes are for everybody and shared amongst the community.
Sounds like you are trying to be selfish and keep the hooker to yourself. Easy to know how many customers she bangs per day. Pay her for the entire day so you can be the only one. It is a service. How would they support themselves with you being the only customer? Who cares how many houses the maid has cleaned in a day or how many tires Pep Boy has changed in a day. Throw her in the shower and brush her teeth and gargle with mouthwash and she is good as new. Or this may not be the hobby for you.[/QUOTE]O trust me I know how to have a good time, I fly to Thailand to visit a friend that lives in Pattaya (I never made it to Pattaya), I landed in BKK and wound up staying 60 days until I legally could fuck no more, so I decided to go to Manila for a quick 24 HR visa run, and wound up staying 120 nites and probably did at least 120 different girls (keep a hooker for myself WUT?) LOL, but I will say the best places are not the high traffic monger hubs for those that like shooting fish in the barrel, but are small town strip clubs all over the USA Mexico Canada.
Who cares how many houses the maid has cleaned in a day or how many tires Pep Boy has changed in a day.
Really this is the analogy you want to use? LOL.
I like putas that aren't dripping jizz from every orifice and pubes between their teeth, I don't use escorts anymore but when I used to, I was the 1st customer of the day or I didn't use them that day.
They started outcalls at 10 a and stopped at 10 p, if I couldn't book the girl I wanted for 10 am, I wouldn't do any that day, I don't know how many mongers rather be 10th rather than 1st?
You think that's being selfish? Seriously? Ok you go last every time, great noble one! LMAO.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2495146]Throw her in the shower and brush her teeth and gargle with mouthwash and she is good as new. [/QUOTE]Damn you Mr. E, I just spit-up my tasty beverage!:D
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2494971]Overrated? You must be talking about a different Colombia. Either that or your rating system is all messed up.
For $25 a night I get a 2 bed, 2 bath apartment with a great balcony, in a safe and quiet, upscale neighborhood.
Everyone has their preference. If you feel Colombia is overrated, find me a place which exceeds it in all the important categories.[/QUOTE]I'm on board with everything that was in this post and I totally agree-that's why MDE works for me. But, I got to ask about the 2 bed 2 bath apartment / balcony for 25 a night. Safe etc. Where? And how did you find that? Security in the building? In normal times I am in MDE 3-4 times a year-I have never found that type of deal-unless you are strictly referencing something you got on like a 1 year lease or something. I am a shot term guy for now. Hopefully in 1-3 years I am able to start spending 1/2 my year in MDE.
[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2495033]Its your money, Its your time, spend it how you see fit. From my observation, you can not find 9-10's when all you are looking for are 18-20 yr olds, skinny, European looking chics. They have not developed enough in Medellin, you haven't given them enough time to mature. Maybe you have tricked yourself into believing that just because 18 yrs old is legal, that the girl's body has fully matured, well it hasn't.
I am going to post another post soon about a friend of mine's who just left and the trip he had here, it was a different point of view and we both has an excellent time. Truth is many of the mongers who I have met, other than Nounce and Vsebudeny, only wanted girls that met the South East Asian body type and that is very rare in Colombia. Many of these Colombian women are very curvy and have nice huge butts, so if you want a 85 lb 4 foot 8 inch tall chica at age 18, you may want to try Thailand.
Then again if you want only 9 & 10's you may want to try the casa's and the agencies, many of my monger friends have told me that the Casa's have some pretty nice looking chicas on hand from time to time. The almost sure way to find the 9 & 10's is to bring more money, hit up the whatsapp groups and have the group send you photos and tell them if the girl doesn't match the photo you will send her back. Pollo Negro is out![/QUOTE]There's some solid truth there. Some of these girls I've been watching for over 3 years and watched a lot of cute 18's turn into hot 21's. Although I've also seen a few who went downhill.
If you think things are better somewhere else, why go to Colombia and complain. Go to wherever your type of girls can be found.
The girl ask for the guys what's up number on seeking then contacts him. Funny part she sends a picture through WhatsApp that does not correspond to her seeking profile. So the guy asks where did we meet she says seekiing the guy ask what is your profile name on seeking she provides a random profile name that doesn't correspond to her name on seeking. The guy goes back to the seeking application to ask The girl for Her number To see if it matches with the what app number and now he receives no reply. He tells the girl on what's app goodbye and havve a nice day. The girl asked so are you interested? And then leaves the chat. Standard escort webpage bait and switch scam arrives seeking. Brilliant (sarcasm).
What a strange world people want to find friendship love and sex but not before filtering all these scammers.
Another scammer repeatedly refused to verify her identity through video call. She used pictures of a very good-looking woman A 10 and had an Instagram account and insisted on selling photos for 50,000 pesos. She says she can't the video call because she has no Wi-Fi and only cell phone data but that doesn't stop her from asking for money even though the guy insists he can give her a present but only in persoon. Why send money to a 50-year-old man pretending to be a woman? Before leaving she says men are just too poor to buy photos. Honestly her comment was not taken as challenge. The scammer was so smart she said "my profile is obviously not fake I have an Instagram account " okay, whatever that means.
The 3rd scam has occurred 3 times already. Both times Coincidentally the profile Had pictures of a woman that looked way too European compared to the rest of the profiles. After all, South America isn't located in the European continent. These profiles just find it impossible to prove their identity. However there is actually one girl that commes from Europe on seeking that's been living in Colombia for a few years.
That is the scam report of the day.
Besides that, successful dates Arranged with 4 women For the end of the year. Also a few contacts for the future.
These scammers are just wasting everyone's time trying to steal money. And they are so dumb they probably couldn't even steal a lollipop From an 8-year-old.
Be kind generous and respectful but never drop your guard always looking for the "smart" scammer that pretends to be trustworthy.
Have a good day, and until that day keep your ear to the grindstone gentlemen. And May the church always be separate from the state. As it has been for centuries. May your balls hang low And your Mannshaft fly strong. May you always do for others and let others do for you.
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2495104]I have bought into the hype a few times, people like Sjobs that writes MDE is "heaven on earth."
I went to Moscow after someone told me how great it was, it wasn't.
I went to FKK after someone told me how great it was, it wasn't.
I suspect the best places to monger, are well kept secrets.
I don't like the idea of banging chicas that have 10 customers a day.
Mongers fighting for sloppy 10 the like pigs at the trough ala HK in Tijuana LOL.
Tierra Del Fuego anyone?[/QUOTE]Can you clear up my confusion?
You don't want anyone to overpay. You don't want anyone to buy pictures or videos. You want women who don't see multiple guys each day. Did I get that right?
The girls who are accepting the lowest price are the ones seeing the most customers. The ones who aren't selling pictures and videos need to ride more dick than the ones selling content.
If you want to be a girl's only customer of the day, find one of the 200 k+ girls. If you treat her right, she'll stay 3 hours or more.
Your expectations don't seem reasonable. No wonder you are disappointed everywhere you go.
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2495104]I have bought into the hype a few times, people like Sjobs that writes MDE is "heaven on earth."
I went to Moscow after someone told me how great it was, it wasn't.
I went to FKK after someone told me how great it was, it wasn't.
I suspect the best places to monger, are well kept secrets.
I don't like the idea of banging chicas that have 10 customers a day.
Mongers fighting for sloppy 10 the like pigs at the trough ala HK in Tijuana LOL.
Tierra Del Fuego anyone?[/QUOTE]I can understand why you might not like MDE, but both Moscow and FKK are great. You have to try not to have fun in Moscow it is that good, if you have any skill at all and decent budget. Russia is just not that expensive at the moment.
I can say I'm an happy monger. The chica with fake boobs and ass, got back to me accepting my offer of 200 k (taxi included), for 2 hours and BBBJ. I didn't compromise and the day after she sent me a message. And today I had 2 hours an half round, plus 40/50 minutes of talk and shit, with the girl I met and fucked en el centro. IMHO she is an 8. She is small doll, with a pretty face, good teeth, very nice ass, and I love the way she kisses. I would date a girl like this in my country. BBBJ included, all for 100 k + 6000 of taxi from my place to the metro. And tomorrow I will see her again, we'll go to visit a place together and then I will have a good time for two hours at my place. For 100. Where else in the world? Not in Europe for sure!
And I have others to try, but I want to focus on the very good looking ones. I'm tired of mediocre experiences with girls I could potentially have for free. I want to fuck at least 2 very hot girls. The nurse can be one of them, but I have 3 more in the radar. I will do my best to justify this expensive trip, and the next month, maybe it will be Africa.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2495182]Can you clear up my confusion?
You don't want anyone to overpay. You don't want anyone to buy pictures or videos. You want women who don't see multiple guys each day. Did I get that right?
The girls who are accepting the lowest price are the ones seeing the most customers. The ones who aren't selling pictures and videos need to ride more dick than the ones selling content.
If you want to be a girl's only customer of the day, find one of the 200 k+ girls. If you treat her right, she'll stay 3 hours or more.
Your expectations don't seem reasonable. No wonder you are disappointed everywhere you go.[/QUOTE]I don't want to overpay for anything, why would anyone? A fool and his money soon part! Jaja.
I can't recall saying anything about photos or video, but does anyone really want that? I prefer monger unionization organization myself.
When did I say I want to be the only customer?
Expectations ahhhhhhhhhhhh therein lies my dilemma.
When I went to FKK and bboi told me to bring 100000 Euros, my expectations spiked and I was disappointed.
When Jake told me to go to Moscow I was disappointed.
BM chimed in that MDE is overrated, well I can say many places are, like HK in Tijuana young boys standing in line to get into a brothel to see their 1st naked woman.
I've been mongering for almost 40 yrs and the best places I can ever remember were never on ISG.
I have worked with several Vietnam vets over the yrs that all told me very similar tales of glory in BKK in the 60's.
I guess that is the Shangri La I am searching for.
When PN says those searching for thin girls should instead go to SEA, I consider scrapping my MDE plans.
But my thinking is that can't all be overweight? I rather jack off to porn for free than pay to have sex with a puta with a higher BMI than myself.
[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2495187]I can understand why you might not like MDE, but both Moscow and FKK are great. You have to try not to have fun in Moscow it is that good, if you have any skill at all and decent budget. Russia is just not that expensive at the moment.[/QUOTE]I think FKK blows, the format is a nice idea, but in action, it just doesn't work for me.
The condom rules are a real deal breaker, I rather watch porn for free.
Moscow is an amazingly beautiful city, it left me speechless, difficult to put in words, especially around Christmas with the light snow and Christmas lights around the Bolshoi.
But it was incredibly cold, and I spent most of my life in Chicago. It is very very difficult to monger, I speak zero Russian, finding anyone that speaks English there.
Is like finding a needle in a haystack (except for a few strip club workers or hotels), I love the people more than anywhere in the world with all my heart (and I am Deustch LOL), but the putas are a different story, the sex was good.
But I believe many have ice water in their veins, so it is very very cold and I don't know your finances but I doubt anyone would disagree that pussy is very very expensive.
Getting around is very hard sitting in a Yandex for an hour to go 1 mile is no fun, maybe the worst traffic I've ever seen besides manila.
I don't smoke or drink so it was a tough city for me.
My last day I made it to Sanduny and had some caviar whilst waiting to catch my flight, it is definitely my favorite city in the universe!
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2495082]I agree with you and Frank. Thank God we have some honest posters here. By the time, you add up the cost of the flight, the time, the hotel, and the PCR test, I would say Brazil is a better value in terms of looks and performance, and you do not need a PCR test.
There are also a lot of Colombian and Venezuelan women in Mexico. To make up the difference in cost, you would have to do at least five to ten women before you could even compare the cost of the two because Mexico is that much cheaper. Quite frankly, many of the adventurous and smart Colombian and Venezuelan women do go to Mexico.
The hit rate I had from [URL]seeking.com[/URL] was great in Colombia and it was best in Medellin although Cali sure is intriguing to me. I was getting two dates a day there when I was trolling for women and the women on [URL]seeking.com[/URL] I met were hot. I did bareback with half of them, but they were expecting between $80 and $100. Some guys here were bitching about what I paid but we live in different universes..[/QUOTE]Is Sheraton four points hotel okay with you bringing a different girl each time?
These chicks have learned they can get money without meeting you. With jjbee paying for pics and video then why should she want to meet you. Now words spread this is what you can do without leaving your house now every chica wants to attempt to do it. Either the pics and video or a sad story to get money without meeting you. How this came about well a guy one day decided to pay a girl for pics and videos so the lightbulb turn on and here we are 80% of chicks just get on line to really seek money without activity. There goes the neighbor. Jjbee please no response about you jumping in the dumpster please.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2495176]The girl ask for the guys what's up number on seeking then contacts him. Funny part she sends a picture through WhatsApp that does not correspond to her seeking profile. So the guy asks where did we meet she says seekiing the guy ask what is your profile name on seeking she provides a random profile name that doesn't correspond to her name on seeking. The guy goes back to the seeking application to ask The girl for Her number To see if it matches with the what app number and now he receives no reply. He tells the girl on what's app goodbye and havve a nice day. The girl asked so are you interested? And then leaves the chat. Standard escort webpage bait and switch scam arrives seeking. Brilliant (sarcasm).
What a strange world people want to find friendship love and sex but not before filtering all these scammers.
Another scammer repeatedly refused to verify her identity through video call. She used pictures of a very good-looking woman A 10 and had an Instagram account and insisted on selling photos for 50,000 pesos. She says she can't the video call because she has no Wi-Fi and only cell phone data but that doesn't stop her from asking for money even though the guy insists he can give her a present but only in persoon. Why send money to a 50-year-old man pretending to be a woman? Before leaving she says men are just too poor to buy photos. Honestly her comment was not taken as challenge. The scammer was so smart she said "my profile is obviously not fake I have an Instagram account " okay, whatever that means.
The 3rd scam has occurred 3 times already. Both times Coincidentally the profile Had pictures of a woman that looked way too European compared to the rest of the profiles. After all, South America isn't located in the European continent. These profiles just find it impossible to prove their identity. However there is actually one girl that commes from Europe on seeking that's been living in Colombia for a few years.
That is the scam report of the day.
Besides that, successful dates Arranged with 4 women For the end of the year. Also a few contacts for the future.
These scammers are just wasting everyone's time trying to steal money. And they are so dumb they probably couldn't even steal a lollipop From an 8-year-old.
Be kind generous and respectful but never drop your guard always looking for the "smart" scammer that pretends to be trustworthy.
Have a good day, and until that day keep your ear to the grindstone gentlemen. And May the church always be separate from the state. As it has been for centuries. May your balls hang low And your Mannshaft fly strong. May you always do for others and let others do for you.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Blakman;2495232]These chicks have learned they can get money without meeting you. With jjbee paying for pics and video then why should she want to meet you. Now words spread this is what you can do without leaving your house now every chica wants to attempt to do it. Either the pics and video or a sad story to get money without meeting you. How this came about well a guy one day decided to pay a girl for pics and videos so the lightbulb turn on and here we are 80% of chicks just get on line to really seek money without activity. There goes the neighbor. Jjbee please no response about you jumping in the dumpster please..[/QUOTE]I've kinda been following these posts about paying Chicas for pics and videos. I just can't ever imagine paying a Chica for something like this. I guess now with the Pandemic we are becoming a "virtual world". I'll just stick to "dumpster diving", and god forbid if I were yo encounter Jbee2 there.
And Blakman, if it hasn't already happened, your about to get a good spanking!
[QUOTE=Blakman;2495150]I could be wrong but most girls are only getting like 1 to 2 rounds a day. Except for casas and centro maybe. But I don't see alot of traffic flowing through casas. Its actually quite discrete. Transportation plays a role, setting up babysitters, traffic. And other possible dynamics. I like the city though. Its progressive with roads and technology.[/QUOTE]Depends. I visited a prepagos and I was the 5th client. She asked me 130 for BBBJ, one hour. For another one, I was the one and only in the day. For the one I'm meeting tomorrow evening I'm the only one, since she works as nurse and doesn't do this as a job. She meets me tomorrow because it's her day off. Another that works en El Centro told me she does, generally, 4 clients a day. Some are so ugly that I wonder if they make a single client. I think some days a girl can make 3 or even 5 and some days she doesn't do not even one. Some girls ask a lot of money and maybe they don't work all days. But when they do they make 3 or 5 times a colleague, and they are happy like that. I used to date a Brazilian escort, and she could do from 1 to 5 clients a day.
[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2495109]And I don't care what her ass looks like, she's past that point.
One of best looking girls I ever saw anywhere ever was in Parque Botero. I couldn't go fuck her at that moment like she wanted, or was it she did not have a cedula (I don't remember)? She gave me her number but we never hooked up. She did not look or act like a pro, more like a girl in a pinch needing some money in hurry.
The girl in the top right foto, in the back. I fucked her jajaja or at least a girl who looks exactly like her. My very first post here, the Wassap transcript, that's her, I am 96.5435% sure, jajajaja.
Posts with lots of fotos of girls. Good, need more or that.[/QUOTE]Tanya worked at Conejitas and was cute from the back also IMO, the top right in the purple floral dress is Dulce from Conejitas also, that's also her lower right in purple shirt too.
Anyone know if it is worth staying in Medellin between Christmas eve and New Year. Are most of the chickas going to be with their families? Trying to gauge the level of mongering activity in quality and quantity in that period. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2495232]These chicks have learned they can get money without meeting you. With jjbee paying for pics and video then why should she want to meet you. Now words spread this is what you can do without leaving your house now every chica wants to attempt to do it. Either the pics and video or a sad story to get money without meeting you. How this came about well a guy one day decided to pay a girl for pics and videos so the lightbulb turn on and here we are 80% of chicks just get on line to really seek money without activity. There goes the neighbor. Jjbee please no response about you jumping in the dumpster please.[/QUOTE]If people pay for pictures and videos, we will all end up jerking off. Don't buy anything from girls. Do not pay for dinners, do not buy pictures or videos, do not subscribe on Patreon, Onlyfans or even Twitch. Do not give these girls money for nothing. How can a monger do that?
[QUOTE=Tomcat88;2495050]Excellent extra-large condoms may be purchased from dozen GuiaCereza shops scattered around Medellin. German-made Vitalis XL in black box with green trim. 8000 pesos for 3.57 x 190 mm.[/QUOTE]Obtain FC-1 Female Condoms by Reality, Inc. Before you go.
Once you switch, you will not go back.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2494990]From the looks of that pic. She's certainly not a hot girl. That fact you are a Brazil man surprises me of this visual you are presenting. Come better, show better, do better. Snapshot did a better jop than that. LOL
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Is it just me or has this Medellin forum gone a little cockcooo? Lol
[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2495172]I'm on board with everything that was in this post and I totally agree-that's why MDE works for me. But, I got to ask about the 2 bed 2 bath apartment / balcony for 25 a night. Safe etc. Where? And how did you find that? Security in the building? In normal times I am in MDE 3-4 times a year-I have never found that type of deal-unless you are strictly referencing something you got on like a 1 year lease or something. I am a shot term guy for now. Hopefully in 1-3 years I am able to start spending 1/2 my year in MDE.[/QUOTE]I found it through knowing a specific area. Hit me in PM and I'll divulge the info.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2495232]These chicks have learned they can get money without meeting you. With jjbee paying for pics and video then why should she want to meet you. Now words spread this is what you can do without leaving your house now every chica wants to attempt to do it. Either the pics and video or a sad story to get money without meeting you. How this came about well a guy one day decided to pay a girl for pics and videos so the lightbulb turn on and here we are 80% of chicks just get on line to really seek money without activity. There goes the neighbor. Jjbee please no response about you jumping in the dumpster please..[/QUOTE]I actually delivered food to restaurants for a few years. I got to see all the kitchens. You don't want to think about how many bugs, mice and even rats I saw. And that was in the US. Just imagine how much worse a restaurant in Colombia has to be before it gets shut down.
Buen provecho.
I'm literally the biggest influencer in Colombia. Somehow I managed to convince women to ask gringos to send them money at least 10 years before I ever talked to anyone in Colombia. There are how many? 100,000 prostitutes in Colombia? And you're telling me that 80 k of them are basing everything they do on what they think I want? I need to start my own clothing line.
Sorry man, but I can't take all the credit. I especially can't take the credit for the scam he described, because that one is worldwide and at least 20 years old. Every now and then I'll toy with one of them. They're pretty easy to figure out. I'll let the guy keep talking, sending teaser pics and I'll say something like "I prefer to send at least $100. " Had one just a few days ago. Some guy (pretending to be a girl) hitting me on Messenger out of the blue. Within 5 minutes I could tell it was a scam. So I played along and then went dark. Didn't read any messages, just let them pile up for 10 hours before blocking the account.
I wish I had the power you think I have. But, I seriously doubt every hooker in Colombia is basing her actions on me.
BTW, every time you call me out, I'll have another story that will make you nauseous.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2495236]I've kinda been following these posts about paying Chicas for pics and videos. I just can't ever imagine paying a Chica for something like this. I guess now with the Pandemic we are becoming a "virtual world". I'll just stick to "dumpster diving", and god forbid if I were yo encounter Jbee2 there.
And Blakman, if it hasn't already happened, your about to get a good spanking![/QUOTE]If you're there when I'm there, you'll almost certainly see me while you're dumpster diving. I have to do 3 or 4 laps around El Centro to reconnect with the city.
There's no need to spank Blakman, besides he might enjoy it too much. It's much easier to just torture his weak stomach.
[QUOTE=MMHikeus;2495255]Anyone know if it is worth staying in Medellin between Christmas eve and New Year. Are most of the chickas going to be with their families? Trying to gauge the level of mongering activity in quality and quantity in that period. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Mongering activity, in a normal year, is low, but there's still options available. You might have to lower your expectations a bit. Christmas Eve and Day will be tough.
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2495256]If people pay for pictures and videos, we will all end up jerking off. Don't buy anything from girls. Do not pay for dinners, do not buy pictures or videos, do not subscribe on Patreon, Onlyfans or even Twitch. Do not give these girls money for nothing. How can a monger do that?[/QUOTE]It's easy. A monger can do it because a monger doesn't let anyone else tell him how to spend his time or money. If all mongers let other people decide what is right for them to do, there would be no mongers.
Let's add to your list of things no monger should ever do:
Never go to any club or strip club with a cover charge, when looking for girls.
Never buy anything in any bar where you've gone to find girls, if the price is higher than the price available in a bar where there are no girls.
Never buy any condoms except for the cheapest brand. Never buy lube. Never buy any type of sex toy.
Never pay a girl extra for anal, BBBJ, BBFS, multiple shots, multiple hours or TLN.
Never pay extra to take pics and videos.
If a girl agrees to a price for an hour, but you blow your load after 3 minutes, only pay her 5% of the agreed price.
Never pay a girl for sex. She fucks other guys for free. Why should you pay?
See how quickly it gets really stupid when you decide you get to make the rules for everyone?
I actually stopped buying videos when international flights resumed, but all of the crying has convinced me I should start again. Don't worry, I'll be selective. Any girl who asks me to buy videos, I'll tell her I'll only buy them if she can show me that some gringo refused to pay her at least 150 k + taxi.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2495262]Is it just me or has this Medellin forum gone a little cockcooo? Lol[/QUOTE]A little? When I signed in today I had to fill in a form with my measurements for a strait jacket.
Do I play hardball, do I compromise, or do I fold to a female I see as very impressive and spend. I text my 8 I have no money and I am coming soon. She says I want you to have lots of sex with me LOL. She's been getting treated very well lately based on her status and trip out the country. I repeated. I have no money. I cannot pay alot. She said well do you love me LOL. I didn't know what to say cause I am not a good liar. So I said I need to see you first. She stop texting LOL
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2495236]I've kinda been following these posts about paying Chicas for pics and videos. I just can't ever imagine paying a Chica for something like this. I guess now with the Pandemic we are becoming a "virtual world". I'll just stick to "dumpster diving", and god forbid if I were yo encounter Jbee2 there.
And Blakman, if it hasn't already happened, your about to get a good spanking![/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Forever18;2495228]Is Sheraton four points hotel okay with you bringing a different girl each time?[/QUOTE]DEFINITELY NOT.
It was said many times already: in Colombia, and Medellin is no exception, hotels just above the basic level of decency are NOT girl friendly. Never. Forget it. Nada.
Go to a motel with your girls (search the topic and you will find an encyclopedia here), or rent an apartment if you really like have guests in your headquarters.
Four Points is my place when I go to MDE. I feel at home. The only time I brought a girl there (invited from another city to spend 3 days with me in Medellin), I had to leave her name the day before to the registration desk as my novia. I paid the extra for double occupancy. The night I tried to bring back a nice girl met in a club to stay with me, I was asked to pay exactly one full night fee as extra. We moved to Ibiza. This happened several years ago. I was told explicitely by the receptionist (with whom I had some confidence) that the management does it on purpose to strictly avoid to see any "casual guest" in their hotel.
How can a monger do it? That is a reasonable question. The fact is it happens every day all day, for many years. Western Union and other cash transfer services thrive on it. It won't ruin the game for the rest of us. If there was danger of that, it would have happened many years ago.
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2495256]If people pay for pictures and videos, we will all end up jerking off. Don't buy anything from girls. Do not pay for dinners, do not buy pictures or videos, do not subscribe on Patreon, Onlyfans or even Twitch. Do not give these girls money for nothing. How can a monger do that?[/QUOTE]
It is a symptom of acute blue balls.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2495262]Is it just me or has this Medellin forum gone a little cockcooo? Lol[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2495331]DEFINITELY NOT.
It was said many times already: in Colombia, and Medellin is no exception, hotels just above the basic level of decency are NOT girl friendly. Never. Forget it. Nada.[/QUOTE]That is not accurate. Many, many, many nice hotels will allow you to bring back a girl with her cedula being registered at the desk. Several will not charge during the day, and will only charge at night if the girl stays after 9 or 10 pm and its usually 25-40 bucks depending on the property.
Affinity in Poblado, Estelar Blue, Florencia Plaza, Dan Carlton, Hotel Poblado Plaza, Casa Portico, to name a few in Poblado. None are roach motels, all are decent to very nice.
Art Hotel Boutique costs like 150 bucks a night and they let you bring chicas back to your place-but I am not paying that much for a Medellin hotel LOL.
The Charlee and the Marriott allow ladies back to the rooms--but they charge more than I want to pay to stay in Medellin. I haven't stayed at most of these places, I have stayed at some on this list. The ones I haven't stayed at I have verified through friends or emails to them in the past. Dan Carlton I walked by once, walked in and told them I was considering them for a future stay -I was shown a room and given their chica policy when I asked about bringing my friends back to the room to hang out-about 5 years ago this was. And the rule was registered girls in the day is fine, after 8 or 9? Pm it was an additional 40 US or so.
In Laureles, Hotel Dorado La 70 is one my buddy stayed at and was able to bring girls back-its near Estadio Metro If I remember correctly. And he said it was pretty nice--though, like most Medellin hotels--could be a bit loud from outside traffic and other noise.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2495331]DEFINITELY NOT.
It was said many times already: in Colombia, and Medellin is no exception, hotels just above the basic level of decency are NOT girl friendly. Never. Forget it. Nada.
Go to a motel with your girls (search the topic and you will find an encyclopedia here), or rent an apartment if you really like have guests in your headquarters.
Four Points is my place when I go to MDE. I feel at home. The only time I brought a girl there (invited from another city to spend 3 days with me in Medellin), I had to leave her name the day before to the registration desk as my novia. I paid the extra for double occupancy. The night I tried to bring back a nice girl met in a club to stay with me, I was asked to pay exactly one full night fee as extra. We moved to Ibiza. This happened several years ago. I was told explicitely by the receptionist (with whom I had some confidence) that the management does it on purpose to strictly avoid to see any "casual guest" in their hotel.[/QUOTE]Thanks, good to know.
I saw this report about happy ending massage places in Medellin. [URL]https://girlsheavens.com/happy-ending-massage-in-medellin/[/URL].
Can someone verify it's legit and which massage place they would recommend?
[QUOTE=MMHikeus;2495255]Anyone know if it is worth staying in Medellin between Christmas eve and New Year. Are most of the chickas going to be with their families? Trying to gauge the level of mongering activity in quality and quantity in that period. Thanks.[/QUOTE]You will be fine and the chicas will be available. Monger away.
That's usually the time period when I travel to Colombia, due to time off from work.
Yes, a portion will be with their family on Christmas. Just find the girls without families that day, LOL.
Give Leidy Baron (Instagram) a call, her family doesn't speak to her, unfortunately.
October 10- October 17th.
Just recently I had a young friend of mines who came to Medellin for a short stay. This is about his 7th trip here. He is a different kind of guy and his main objective is having fun, regardless of cost. I can tell you that he used an agency that has girls in a Whatsapp group and every one of his girls arrived on time and looked really nice, better than nice, in my book they were all 8's and up!
Every day, this young thundercat had no less than 3 chics come through his upscale apartment in Poblado. The guards recognized me and never gave me a hassle, even when I brought 3 chics from Centro out to the apartment. No one ever complained about us playing music, chilling, relaxing and cooking, while enjoying the girls.
This guy was the kind of guy who knew what he wanted and spared no expense. This guy never complained about price and told me that he had been stuck in America for 8 months without being able to return to Colombia and he just wanted to unwind with all the extra cash from bonuses he received while travel was restricted. I can also tell you that this guy was on a million to a million and a half pesos a day budget.
If you do not have the kind of budget that this guy had, then you will probably not see the kind of girls this guy was dating. He truly had 8's, 9's, 10's. This guy did not try and undershoot the girls or bargain, they gave a price, he paid it, we partied!
We had the nice big bottles of Tequila and Grey Goose, this young guy did not spare anything, even when I suggested that he could do things on a much cheaper budget, he insisted that he only had a week to play and did not want to haggle around with prices or look for girls in the street. This guy knew what he wanted and most of all he just really wanted to unwind and have everything at his command and I salute him for that because not once did he ever complain about money, not once.
I can tell you this, watching this young man enjoy himself really gave me a different perspective on mongering and the outcome of what each monger wants, which will be individual for each monger. I came with a plan to survive regardless of how long I had to be in Medellin. My friend came on a one week trip and achieved everything he wanted to achieve. He even booked an apartment for his return in December, he will be staying 3 months on that trip. Took me a few days to rest up from all of the partying with him but this is just a review of the great weak he and I had with all of the girls in Poblado. Pollo Negro is out!
[QUOTE=Blakman;2495232]These chicks have learned they can get money without meeting you. With jjbee paying for pics and video then why should she want to meet you. Now words spread this is what you can do without leaving your house now every chica wants to attempt to do it. Either the pics and video or a sad story to get money without meeting you. How this came about well a guy one day decided to pay a girl for pics and videos so the lightbulb turn on and here we are 80% of chicks just get on line to really seek money without activity. There goes the neighbor. Jjbee please no response about you jumping in the dumpster please. [/QUOTE][QUOTE=Incrociatore;2495256]If people pay for pictures and videos, we will all end up jerking off. Don't buy anything from girls. Do not pay for dinners, do not buy pictures or videos, do not subscribe on Patreon, Onlyfans or even Twitch. Do not give these girls money for nothing. How can a monger do that?[/QUOTE]Oh my God! Where do you guys come from? Have you ever had a girl pitch you for photos and / or videos? I've heard the pitch they usually are trying to get 25 mil maybe a little more because they know they can't get more than that. That might cover food for a few days. You really think girls are going to stop hooking if they can get a few 25 mil sales? And you think that is going to completely kill the marketplace for personal encounters?
I almost never buy pics and videos and if I want one or the other I usually tell the girl ahead of time and for a reasonable tip during our session most will let me take photos or videos. But, since reading these kind of completely out of reality based comments, I'm going to set aside $100 (US dollars) a month for the next 3 months solely for the purpose of purchasing some photo and videos. At less than 50 mil each I should be able to buy at least 7 sets of photos / videos from girls a month. We'll take a look at the end of 3 months and see if all the hookers are closing shop.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2495082]I agree with you and Frank. Thank God we have some honest posters here. [/QUOTE]Elvis has spoken the truth.
[QUOTE=MMHikeus;2495255]Anyone know if it is worth staying in Medellin between Christmas eve and New Year. Are most of the chickas going to be with their families? Trying to gauge the level of mongering activity in quality and quantity in that period. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Not a good time to monger in Medellin, very slow with families together. If there was no Pandemic, Thailand would be the place to be!
This is correct.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2495331]DEFINITELY NOT.
It was said many times already: in Colombia, and Medellin is no exception, hotels just above the basic level of decency are NOT girl friendly. Never. Forget it. Nada.
Go to a motel with your girls (search the topic and you will find an encyclopedia here), or rent an apartment if you really like have guests in your headquarters.
Four Points is my place when I go to MDE. I feel at home. The only time I brought a girl there (invited from another city to spend 3 days with me in Medellin), I had to leave her name the day before to the registration desk as my novia. I paid the extra for double occupancy. The night I tried to bring back a nice girl met in a club to stay with me, I was asked to pay exactly one full night fee as extra. We moved to Ibiza. This happened several years ago. I was told explicitely by the receptionist (with whom I had some confidence) that the management does it on purpose to strictly avoid to see any "casual guest" in their hotel.[/QUOTE]
I will divulge it here. You can find similar deals all over airbnb. As jaybee indicated, you need some knowledge of the neighborhoods to judge how well the locations fit your needs.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2495266]I found it through knowing a specific area. Hit me in PM and I'll divulge the info.[/QUOTE]
Of course you tell her you love her, you tell her you love her like you love no other (each chika is different and so your "love" for each one is different), not a lie and she feels special and you get a cheap or even free evening!
I see it as kinda like playing the same game as they play!
[QUOTE=Blakman;2495310]Do I play hardball, do I compromise, or do I fold to a female I see as very impressive and spend. I text my 8 I have no money and I am coming soon. She says I want you to have lots of sex with me LOL. She's been getting treated very well lately based on her status and trip out the country. I repeated. I have no money. I cannot pay alot. She said well do you love me LOL. I didn't know what to say cause I am not a good liar. So I said I need to see you first. She stop texting LOL
.[/QUOTE]
That is what I should have said. I am afraid of a scorn woman so I try to be as honest as possible. Maybe I need to acquire that skill so I can be an elite mongerer LOL.
[QUOTE=Luminus;2495399]Of course you tell her you love her, you tell her you love her like you love no other (each chika is different and so your "love" for each one is different), not a lie and she feels special and you get a cheap or even free evening!
I see it as kinda like playing the same game as they play![/QUOTE].
Hello all,
I am new here and just had some questions. I am going within the next few weeks and wanted to know if you all make these girls shower before doing anything with them? Trying to be clean and as safe as I can. Also, where can I find these WhatsApp groups some of you are referring to? Thanks a lot.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2495383]This is correct.[/QUOTE]The 4 times I've stayed in hotels in Medellin never once a problem 2 times art hotel, 2 times hotel Charlie! YMMV but just my experience, never once a jam up!
Hi there,
Hopefully I can come to Medellin next year. I started to learn some Spanish and want to continue when I am finally here.
My motivation is higher, when my teacher is an attractive woman. You know anyone who gives private lessons and does not mind a flirt (or more)?
[QUOTE=MMHikeus;2495255]Anyone know if it is worth staying in Medellin between Christmas eve and New Year. Are most of the chickas going to be with their families? Trying to gauge the level of mongering activity in quality and quantity in that period. Thanks.[/QUOTE]The weeks before Christmas are great, with a lot of ladies working to accumulate a bit of Christmas cash. After Christmas, they mostly stay home with family.
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2495203]When PN says those searching for thin girls should instead go to SEA, I consider scrapping my MDE plans.
But my thinking is that can't all be overweight? I rather jack off to porn for free than pay to have sex with a puta with a higher BMI than myself.[/QUOTE]True story. I was at a strip club once and this attractive Latina had me guess where she was from. I told her to turn around, looked at her ass which was broad compared to the rest of her body and said, "Colombia", and she said I was right.
Unlike the song, I do not like big butts. Still, I have found the women with more European ancestry but have the thinner asses I like better. Of the seven women I saw in Colombia, and I like the thinner girls PN was speaking of, three had European asses and four had the classic Colombian ones.
None of the women were over 125 lbs and none had waist lines over 26 inches. I did not measure but I am scary good at guessing these things.
No doubt the thinner women with European asses are harder to find than the curvy ones, but they are there. Between MDE and Bogota, I have probably been with 20 women with the European asses.
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2495203]When PN says those searching for thin girls should instead go to SEA, I consider scrapping my MDE plans.
But my thinking is that can't all be overweight? I rather jack off to porn for free than pay to have sex with a puta with a higher BMI than myself.[/QUOTE]No, of course not, I love flacas and there are plenty to be had. Everything from $10 little skinny street to chicks that are close to nines and 10's to me like Estrella and Allison from the higher end strip club Fase Dos.
[QUOTE=Forever18;2495355]I saw this report about happy ending massage places in Medellin. [URL]https://girlsheavens.com/happy-ending-massage-in-medellin/[/URL].
Can someone verify it's legit and which massage place they would recommend?[/QUOTE]Here's my report from 15 months ago.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2346439]After writing up some of the massage places, I decided a massage sounded like a good idea. Took a long walk, stopped for some lunch and eventually hopped on a bus towards Poblado. My original plan was to visit OM Spa for Men, but the door was locked and nobody answered my WhatsApp message until 2 hours passed.
In the Rio Sur mall there are 3 massage places. OM Spa has already been mentioned, it's on the 4th floor. On the 3rd floor is.
[B]El Garage Spa for Men[/B]
Carrera 43 A #6 Sur-26 suite 310...[/QUOTE]You could also try the Jade Palace near Parque Lleras. Full service is available.
There are also a few girls who have massage businesses on Facebook.
[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2495361]October 10- October 17th.
Just recently I had a young friend of mines who came to Medellin for a short stay. This is about his 7th trip here. He is a different kind of guy and his main objective is having fun, regardless of cost. I can tell you that he used an agency that has girls in a Whatsapp group and every one of his girls arrived on time and looked really nice, better than nice, in my book they were all 8's and up!
Every day, this young thundercat had no less than 3 chics come through his upscale apartment in Poblado. The guards recognized me and never gave me a hassle, even when I brought 3 chics from Centro out to the apartment. No one ever complained about us playing music, chilling, relaxing and cooking, while enjoying the girls.
This guy was the kind of guy who knew what he wanted and spared no expense. This guy never complained about price and told me that he had been stuck in America for 8 months without being able to return to Colombia and he just wanted to unwind with all the extra cash from bonuses he received while travel was restricted.[/QUOTE]It does my poor, old heart good to see this. Progress is made and through experience we all grow a little wiser.
It's not where you stay, how much you pay, how hard you negotiate or how many girls you squeeze in. It's, at the end of the day, standing back, looking at it all and being able to say "damn that felt good."
Too much effort is wasted trying to follow in another monger's footsteps, or trying to gain their approval. Find your comfort zone. Find the experiences that fit both your budget and your personality.
Casas and their chicas are very clean. The house or apartment are quite well kept. As a matter of fact they may request you shower with them. Most girls that visit you at the apartment come very fresh even though they may lack perfume. The younger ones are more casual. Dress or jeans with sneakers. Only my 8 comes dolled up but she's 32. The rest over 18 under 25 was just casual so maybe that had to do with my selections. Majority of the time the girls will request to take a shower just to enjoy a better shower. This is casa and apartment advice. For centro info check with surfer the dumpster diving centro king. He will tell you everything you want to know about them girls LOL. But on the low. They different LOL
[QUOTE=SuperDan;2495406]Hello all,
I am new here and just had some questions. I am going within the next few weeks and wanted to know if you all make these girls shower before doing anything with them? Trying to be clean and as safe as I can. Also, where can I find these WhatsApp groups some of you are referring to? Thanks a lot.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=SuperDan;2495406]Hello all,
I am new here and just had some questions. I am going within the next few weeks and wanted to know if you all make these girls shower before doing anything with them? Trying to be clean and as safe as I can.[/QUOTE]Kinda depends on what you intend on doing with them, one of our recent posters who doesn't "dumpster dive" likes licking ass. Others like dining at the "why" so if your into eating pussy or licking girl's behinds it might not be a bad idea to have them shower and even douche, but I wouldn't be gargling with their douche water unless your into that.
All kidding aside, besides the women taking showers which I recommend 100% of the time, you should shower as well and let the Chica see you washing your junk. I say this as a Chica will hopefully be more enthusiastic about giving you a blow job, especially if it is uncovered.
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2495195]I can say I'm an happy monger. The chica with fake boobs and ass, got back to me accepting my offer of 200 k (taxi included), for 2 hours and BBBJ. I didn't compromise and the day after she sent me a message. And today I had 2 hours an half round, plus 40/50 minutes of talk and shit, with the girl I met and fucked en el centro. IMHO she is an 8. She is small doll, with a pretty face, good teeth, very nice ass, and I love the way she kisses. I would date a girl like this in my country. BBBJ included, all for 100 k + 6000 of taxi from my place to the metro. And tomorrow I will see her again, we'll go to visit a place together and then I will have a good time for two hours at my place. For 100. Where else in the world? Not in Europe for sure!
And I have others to try, but I want to focus on the very good looking ones. I'm tired of mediocre experiences with girls I could potentially have for free. I want to fuck at least 2 very hot girls. The nurse can be one of them, but I have 3 more in the radar. I will do my best to justify this expensive trip, and the next month, maybe it will be Africa.[/QUOTE]RN stands for "Ready Now" and they have no hang-ups about human orifices or bodily functions, jajjajjajaa.
Your friend is a true "Weekend Millionaire". Some cats don't understand the difference between living somewhere and just visiting for a weekend. If you are just there for a weekend your time is worth more than gold. No time to dumpster dive.
[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2495361]October 10- October 17th.
Just recently I had a young friend of mines who came to Medellin for a short stay. This is about his 7th trip here. He is a different kind of guy and his main objective is having fun, regardless of cost. I can tell you that he used an agency that has girls in a Whatsapp group and every one of his girls arrived on time and looked really nice, better than nice, in my book they were all 8's and up!
Every day, this young thundercat had no less than 3 chics come through his upscale apartment in Poblado. The guards recognized me and never gave me a hassle, even when I brought 3 chics from Centro out to the apartment. No one ever complained about us playing music, chilling, relaxing and cooking, while enjoying the girls.
This guy was the kind of guy who knew what he wanted and spared no expense. This guy never complained about price and told me that he had been stuck in America for 8 months without being able to return to Colombia and he just wanted to unwind with all the extra cash from bonuses he received while travel was restricted. I can also tell you that this guy was on a million to a million and a half pesos a day budget.[/QUOTE]
Just a quick question for anyone currently in Medellin. I plan to travel to Medellin in the coming weeks. Are the Casas open? I could not find any recent report on here to confirm. If they are open, are they taking any precautions (temperature checks, etc.)? Any help in answering my questions are appreciated.
[QUOTE=MMHikeus;2495255]Anyone know if it is worth staying in Medellin between Christmas eve and New Year. Are most of the chickas going to be with their families? Trying to gauge the level of mongering activity in quality and quantity in that period. Thanks.[/QUOTE]If you're going to be in Colombia between Christmas and New Year, I highly recommend traveling a bit farther southwest to Cali. That week is the absolute best time in Cali because of the Feria de Cali. It is a fantastic event, a bit like Carnaval in Rio. The chicas are in the mood to fuck (including non-pros if you're reasonably young and good-looking). I imagine the Covid stuff might lesson the intensity, but they are having it this year from what I'm told. If you like Salsa music and dance, it's even more of a must-see.
Medellin will be dead. Though if you already have connections (from previous visits), you should be able to arrange hook-ups.
[QUOTE=Combo;2495489]If you're going to be in Colombia between Christmas and New Year, I highly recommend traveling a bit farther southwest to Cali. That week is the absolute best time in Cali because of the Feria de Cali. It is a fantastic event, a bit like Carnaval in Rio. The chicas are in the mood to fuck (including non-pros if you're reasonably young and good-looking). I imagine the Covid stuff might lesson the intensity, but they are having it this year from what I'm told. If you like Salsa music and dance, it's even more of a must-see.
Medellin will be dead. Though if you already have connections (from previous visits), you should be able to arrange hook-ups.[/QUOTE]Cool, never been to Cali. If possible I will check it out.
[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2495361]October 10- October 17th.
Just recently I had a young friend of mines who came to Medellin for a short stay. This is about his 7th trip here. He is a different kind of guy and his main objective is having fun, regardless of cost. I can tell you that he used an agency that has girls in a Whatsapp group and every one of his girls arrived on time and looked really nice, better than nice, in my book they were all 8's and up!
Every day, this young thundercat had no less than 3 chics come through his upscale apartment in Poblado. The guards recognized me and never gave me a hassle, even when I brought 3 chics from Centro out to the apartment. No one ever complained about us playing music, chilling, relaxing and cooking, while enjoying the girls.[/QUOTE]Can you share the contact of one girl who is in this group? She must have a link on Internet somewhere, right? Am I asking too much?
Ding ding ding. Coming out swinging and Hitting below the belt. Taking a cheap shot. Honestly I do not like licking ass. But thisvery hygenic 8, legit 8 maybe a 7, who sloppy toppy, wears sexy lingerie, cook for me, charged me 300 k for a week, strip dance on my table and was always ready for sex, records us having sex, shakes her nice booty in front of your face. Hey the freak comes out. And I licked that freshly washed ass. I think its call passionate sex. I hope I explain myself well. Blakman out LOL
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2495479]Kinda depends on what you intend on doing with them, one of our recent posters who doesn't "dumpster dive" likes licking ass. Others like dining at the "why" so if your into eating pussy or licking girl's behinds it might not be a bad idea to have them shower and even douche, but I wouldn't be gargling with their douche water unless your into that.
All kidding aside, besides the women taking showers which I recommend 100% of the time, you should shower as well and let the Chica see you washing your junk. I say this as a Chica will hopefully be more enthusiastic about giving you a blow job, especially if it is uncovered.[/QUOTE].
Told her I am in love with her. Come visit me when I arrive no charge. She said yes. So then I ask really are you sure. But flashed a very stylish heels I bought for $10. And she confirmed yes. You are a genius. You are my go to guy from now on. Surfer and Jjbee is fired LOL.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2495405]That is what I should have said. I am afraid of a scorn woman so I try to be as honest as possible. Maybe I need to acquire that skill so I can be an elite mongerer LOL.
.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Blakman;2495501]Ding ding ding. Coming out swinging and Hitting below the belt. Taking a cheap shot. Honestly I do not like licking ass. But thisvery hygenic 8, legit 8 maybe a 7, who sloppy toppy, wears sexy lingerie, cook for me, charged me 300 k for a week, strip dance on my table and was always ready for sex, records us having sex, shakes her nice booty in front of your face. Hey the freak comes out. And I licked that freshly washed ass. I think its call passionate sex. I hope I explain myself well. Blakman out LOL.[/QUOTE]Your tempting me, I have one gal who I call the Indian Princess who's ass I could see licking, so I totally get where your coming from in the heat of the moment. However, I'm not sure how many board members would of surmised it was you, so you have kinda come out of the closet (again) as an ass licker, but I will probably be joining your club so don't sweat it like you did last time when I called you on it!
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2495195]And I have others to try, but I want to focus on the very good looking ones. I'm tired of mediocre experiences with girls I could potentially have for free. I want to fuck at least 2 very hot girls. The nurse can be one of them, but I have 3 more in the radar. I will do my best to justify this expensive trip, and the next month, maybe it will be Africa.[/QUOTE]My advise is to check out Fase Dos strip club on a Fri / Sat after 11 pm, can be over 50 girls, with the top 5 being "WOW".
[URL]http://clubfasedos.com/site/[/URL]
Also the Isla strip club. If you hit it off after a test run at the club, make a date with her for the next night.
Don't be too quick to fire anybody, LOL, I'm fairly new to the game but treating them right, showing a bit of care and emotion seems to open doors and the chicka's drink it up.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2495505]Told her I am in love with her. Come visit me when I arrive no charge. She said yes. So then I ask really are you sure. But flashed a very stylish heels I bought for $10. And she confirmed yes. You are a genius. You are my go to guy from now on. Surfer and Jjbee is fired LOL.
.[/QUOTE]
They fired LOL. Your advice didnt cost me a dime. Your this cheapy charlie type of guy.
[QUOTE=Luminus;2495511]Don't be too quick to fire anybody, LOL, I'm fairly new to the game but treating them right, showing a bit of care and emotion seems to open doors and the chicka's drink it up.[/QUOTE].
Yes. Enjoy your visit.
[QUOTE=BlackCowboy;2495486]Just a quick question for anyone currently in Medellin. I plan to travel to Medellin in the coming weeks. Are the Casas open? I could not find any recent report on here to confirm. If they are open, are they taking any precautions (temperature checks, etc.)? Any help in answering my questions are appreciated.[/QUOTE]
The last girl I saw in COL was the most lame and boring experience. This girl retired the mannshaft. The manager and 4 players gone. I'm definitely going to go back to jerking off to the porn videos. I may retire to the countrySide to tend sheep. If any of my old girl contact me I may suggest they pay me for my time from now on. LOL.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2495527]The last girl I saw in COL was the most lame and boring experience. This girl retired the mannshaft. The manager and 4 players gone. I'm definitely going to go back to jerking off to the porn videos. I may retire to the countrySide to tend sheep. If any of my old girl contact me I may suggest they pay me for my time from now on. LOL.[/QUOTE]It's a sad state of affairs here which I blame on the Pandemic if board members have been driven to pay for videos, and are considering bonking animals.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2495310]Do I play hardball, do I compromise, or do I fold to a female I see as very impressive and spend. I text my 8 I have no money and I am coming soon. She says I want you to have lots of sex with me LOL. She's been getting treated very well lately based on her status and trip out the country. I repeated. I have no money. I cannot pay alot. She said well do you love me LOL. I didn't know what to say cause I am not a good liar. So I said I need to see you first. She stop texting LOL
.[/QUOTE]She knows if you can buy a ticket to get your cheap ass there, you got money.
[QUOTE=Neophaser;2495444]Hi there,
Hopefully I can come to Medellin next year. I started to learn some Spanish and want to continue when I am finally here.
My motivation is higher, when my teacher is an attractive woman. You know anyone who gives private lessons and does not mind a flirt (or more)?[/QUOTE]Spanish lessons and would fuck you at the same time. The Spanish lessons were legit, with regular times and lesson plans, but they emphasized "mongering" language from the start, I-kid-you-not, along side the traditional content. They had a brick and mortar office on one of the side streets off Avenida 70. I could get you within a 5 block radius but I never went there he just told me about it. Can't ask him, he decided to check out while in Medellin, permanently. He fucked the business owner and teacher for nominally more than the Spanish lessons and they practiced Dirty Talk in Spanish, while in bed. She also hooked him up with a couple of girls. I like the business model, maybe there's more than one of them. But it could be tricky calling up a business that advertises Spanish lessons and asking, "BTW, will the teachers fuck the students?" Jjajajaja I just remembered this business did a lot of other things besides Spanish lessons and fuck. They specialized in helping Gringos assimilate to Medellin. Stuff like intermediary for apartment hunting and help with leases, shopping, cell phone activation, maid service, I don't think they did visas. . . I saw their menu one time. Good luck.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2495458]No, of course not, I love flacas and there are plenty to be had. Everything from $10 little skinny street to chicks that are close to nines and 10's to me like Estrella and Allison from the higher end strip club Fase Dos.[/QUOTE]There appears to be some confusion. I've found very few women in Medellin who are overweight. However most have nicely rounded butts, unlike the typical north American or Asian woman.
[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2495361]October 10- October 17th.
Just recently I had a young friend of mines who came to Medellin for a short stay. This is about his 7th trip here. He is a different kind of guy and his main objective is having fun, regardless of cost. I can tell you that he used an agency that has girls in a Whatsapp group and every one of his girls arrived on time and looked really nice, better than nice, in my book they were all 8's and up!
Every day, this young thundercat had no less than 3 chics come through his upscale apartment in Poblado. The guards recognized me and never gave me a hassle, even when I brought 3 chics from Centro out to the apartment. No one ever complained about us playing music, chilling, relaxing and cooking, while enjoying the girls.
This guy was the kind of guy who knew what he wanted and spared no expense. This guy never complained about price and told me that he had been stuck in America for 8 months without being able to return to Colombia and he just wanted to unwind with all the extra cash from bonuses he received while travel was restricted. I can also tell you that this guy was on a million to a million and a half pesos a day budget.
If you do not have the kind of budget that this guy had, then you will probably not see the kind of girls this guy was dating. He truly had 8's, 9's, 10's. This guy did not try and undershoot the girls or bargain, they gave a price, he paid it, we partied!
We had the nice big bottles of Tequila and Grey Goose, this young guy did not spare anything, even when I suggested that he could do things on a much cheaper budget, he insisted that he only had a week to play and did not want to haggle around with prices or look for girls in the street. This guy knew what he wanted and most of all he just really wanted to unwind and have everything at his command and I salute him for that because not once did he ever complain about money, not once.
I can tell you this, watching this young man enjoy himself really gave me a different perspective on mongering and the outcome of what each monger wants, which will be individual for each monger. I came with a plan to survive regardless of how long I had to be in Medellin. My friend came on a one week trip and achieved everything he wanted to achieve. He even booked an apartment for his return in December, he will be staying 3 months on that trip. Took me a few days to rest up from all of the partying with him but this is just a review of the great weak he and I had with all of the girls in Poblado. Pollo Negro is out![/QUOTE]It's always a given.
The more you spend the more there is available to you. There are 8's and 9's our there. But you're not getting them for Centro prices.
Great report. Sounds exactly about right. But I'm interested which agency this was.
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[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2495256]If people pay for pictures and videos, we will all end up jerking off. Don't buy anything from girls. Do not pay for dinners, do not buy pictures or videos, do not subscribe on Patreon, Onlyfans or even Twitch. Do not give these girls money for nothing. How can a monger do that?[/QUOTE]I have to agree to some of this although not all.
I am a believer pics and vids are an absolute waste and at times a scam.
Anything that is strictly an online thing can be a scam.
But don't pay for dinners?? That's a bit overboard.
Unless we are talking just hookers and prepagos. Then yes I agree I wouldn't pay for anything but sex and sex acts.
But I remember I got grilled because I was told I'm overpaying or spending too much and ruining the market etc etc.
How about these guys who spend tons of money on gifts and cam shows and they fall in love thinking they're the only one sending the monthly western unions or Moneygram. Those are the ones that ruin the market.
Even if I pay a Facebook girl double her going rate if she can resort to making money without actually having to fuck think about how much higher the price is going to be?
This happened to a Facebook girl last name Jimenez forgot her fn.
Last trip I decided I wanted to bang her. She said her price is 500 k for an hour.
She's not even a 7 in my book. Come to find out she makes side money doing cam shows and guys send her gifts without ever touching her.
THIS is what truly ruins the market.
[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2495361]October 10- October 17th.
Just recently I had a young friend of mines who came to Medellin for a short stay. This is about his 7th trip here. He is a different kind of guy and his main objective is having fun, regardless of cost. I can tell you that he used an agency that has girls in a Whatsapp group and every one of his girls arrived on time and looked really nice, better than nice, in my book they were all 8's and up!
Every day, this young thundercat had no less than 3 chics come through his upscale apartment in Poblado. The guards recognized me and never gave me a hassle, even when I brought 3 chics from Centro out to the apartment. No one ever complained about us playing music, chilling, relaxing and cooking, while enjoying the girls.
This guy was the kind of guy who knew what he wanted and spared no expense. This guy never complained about price and told me that he had been stuck in America for 8 months without being able to return to Colombia and he just wanted to unwind with all the extra cash from bonuses he received while travel was restricted. I can also tell you that this guy was on a million to a million and a half pesos a day budget.
If you do not have the kind of budget that this guy had, then you will probably not see the kind of girls this guy was dating. He truly had 8's, 9's, 10's. This guy did not try and undershoot the girls or bargain, they gave a price, he paid it, we partied!
We had the nice big bottles of Tequila and Grey Goose, this young guy did not spare anything, even when I suggested that he could do things on a much cheaper budget, he insisted that he only had a week to play and did not want to haggle around with prices or look for girls in the street. This guy knew what he wanted and most of all he just really wanted to unwind and have everything at his command and I salute him for that because not once did he ever complain about money, not once.
I can tell you this, watching this young man enjoy himself really gave me a different perspective on mongering and the outcome of what each monger wants, which will be individual for each monger. I came with a plan to survive regardless of how long I had to be in Medellin. My friend came on a one week trip and achieved everything he wanted to achieve. He even booked an apartment for his return in December, he will be staying 3 months on that trip. Took me a few days to rest up from all of the partying with him but this is just a review of the great weak he and I had with all of the girls in Poblado. Pollo Negro is out![/QUOTE]If I am correct 1 million pesos is about $250 dollars a day. Not what you want to spend every day if you live there. But he is not retired so $250 a day is a modest amount to spend for a vacation for a regular middle class person. I agree with him. When I have limited time I don't do a lot of haggling as long as I am somewhere near the going rates. The whole idea of a vacation is to treat yourself. And that's what I do when I travel. If I am living in Medellin I would do more bargaining as time would be on my side. But his circumstances are that he has more money than time. Good for him.
Guys. I will be in Medellin from Oct 24th. Nov 1st, will love to have a beer with forum members.
Please pm me.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2495478]Casas and their chicas are very clean. The house or apartment are quite well kept. As a matter of fact they may request you shower with them. Most girls that visit you at the apartment come very fresh even though they may lack perfume. The younger ones are more casual. Dress or jeans with sneakers. Only my 8 comes dolled up but she's 32. The rest over 18 under 25 was just casual so maybe that had to do with my selections. Majority of the time the girls will request to take a shower just to enjoy a better shower. This is casa and apartment advice. For centro info check with surfer the dumpster diving centro king. He will tell you everything you want to know about them girls LOL. But on the low. They different LOL.[/QUOTE]Thank a lot for the info. All makes sense. I unfortunately have a higher end taste as well. I just can't do the dumpster diving (would be a ton cheaper LOL).
[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2495361]October 10- October 17th.
Just recently I had a young friend of mines who came to Medellin for a short stay. This is about his 7th trip here. He is a different kind of guy and his main objective is having fun, regardless of cost. I can tell you that he used an agency that has girls in a Whatsapp group and every one of his girls arrived on time and looked really nice, better than nice, in my book they were all 8's and up!
Every day, this young thundercat had no less than 3 chics come through his upscale apartment in Poblado. The guards recognized me and never gave me a hassle, even when I brought 3 chics from Centro out to the apartment. No one ever complained about us playing music, chilling, relaxing and cooking, while enjoying the girls.
This guy was the kind of guy who knew what he wanted and spared no expense. This guy never complained about price and told me that he had been stuck in America for 8 months without being able to return to Colombia and he just wanted to unwind with all the extra cash from bonuses he received while travel was restricted. I can also tell you that this guy was on a million to a million and a half pesos a day budget.
If you do not have the kind of budget that this guy had, then you will probably not see the kind of girls this guy was dating. He truly had 8's, 9's, 10's. This guy did not try and undershoot the girls or bargain, they gave a price, he paid it, we partied.[/QUOTE]Do you by chance have the name and whatsapp # from the company he used?
Next time a girl asks me for 500,000 I will say 50,000 per hour because I know you're making millions with your WebCam. WebCam girls are filthy rich and then they asked for 500,000? And the girl 10 at giusto offered me 40,000 per night because her pussycat was wet. At least that is what she said. I countered her offer with 25,000 per night. I am laying down the law in COL. fuck them bitches. If they have a WebCam, they are wearing high heels, and a baseball cap, I know they have money. So I always ask for 25,000 pm in that case.
Tell these pitches the sheriff is in town. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyP9CSRSxRk
[QUOTE=BigTimeFun;2495578]If I am correct 1 million pesos is about $250 dollars a day. Not what you want to spend every day if you live there. But he is not retired so $250 a day is a modest amount to spend for a vacation for a regular middle class person. I agree with him. When I have limited time I don't do a lot of haggling as long as I am somewhere near the going rates. The whole idea of a vacation is to treat yourself. And that's what I do when I travel. If I am living in Medellin I would do more bargaining as time would be on my side. But his circumstances are that he has more money than time. Good for him.[/QUOTE]This guy and I have linked up about 7 times, he has finally decided to come down for 3 months, and work from Medellin like I did. Its not a weekly vacation thing, this young thundercat has money and he is not afraid to enjoy himself. He wanted me to show him how I have managed over the last 8 months and I did, I will be leaving soon and cannot return until like late May early June, so I won't be in Medellin for his 3 month stay, but I am sure he will survive just fine and be safe in Poblado, the setup in Poblado is ideal for guys like him. Pollo Negro is Out!
[QUOTE=Villainy;2495051]Well that is interesting. I just checked my WhatsApp and I saw her and the very end of June. I didn't pay 250. If I remember correctly it was 200 + 1 taxi. I like Erika and she's affectionate enough.
But once you've finished she is ready to take a shower and get dressed and leave. So she isn't the cuddle-bunny afterwards that some guys like. But she does provide a very good date.
By the way, how is your Spanish? I've had some girls ask me how well I speak Spanish and I tell them that I'm learning but can speak a fair amount. They then tell me it isn't fun for them to see someone who is tied.
To a translator and they won't accept those dates unless they really 'have to'.[/QUOTE]No worries. If not her there are others. If I do see her I will post the report here.
My Spanish is decent enough. Sounds like we are at the same level. Not fluent, but better than most gringos.
Are you in Medellin now? I will be there in a week. Maybe we can get a beer? TR.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2495647]Next time a girl asks me for 500,000 I will say 50,000 per hour because I know you're making millions with your WebCam. WebCam girls are filthy rich and then they asked for 500,000? And the girl 10 at giusto offered me 40,000 per night because her pussycat was wet. At least that is what she said. I countered her offer with 25,000 per night. I am laying down the law in COL. fuck them bitches. If they have a WebCam, they are wearing high heels, and a baseball cap, I know they have money. So I always ask for 25,000 pm in that case.
Tell these pitches the sheriff is in town. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyP9CSRSxRk[/QUOTE]I can't tell if you are being sarcastic about camgirls being rich. I don't think you are.
Sure, the very, very elite camgirls make big money. But 99 percent of them do not. Don't be fooled. Webcam is just a job. That's why mongers are still connecting with them. They are not special.
[QUOTE=Lugnut;2495664]I can't tell if you are being sarcastic about camgirls being rich. [/QUOTE]Yes it was a joke. Satire because Some Women actually are doing this overcharging guys because of appearance attire sneakers hat etc. Is their behavior correct?
as a side note, yes, I also agree girls trying to sell pictures isn't going to make them rich. unless they find petroleum in the garden.
[QUOTE=MMHikeus;2495494]Cool, never been to Cali. If possible I will check it out.[/QUOTE]You must be able to speak Spanish to succeed in Cali. The 2 popular clinicas are good options.
IMO the music scene is overrated.
I do completely agree, and yes, I'm talking about hookers and prepagos.
But there is a trend in some of the big cities. On Tinder there is a proliferation of girls with their amazon wish list or they onlyfans links. But also there are girls who like dinners out in expensive restaurants, and even after a few dates they do not give you anything in return. And in the meantime, between a date and another, they ask you for the nails, the hair, or whatever they need. It happened to me twice. Girls were stunning, but they didn't really have any interest in my person but just in my money. And it's a trend in big cities like NY or London. They manage to handle multiple men at once, and some maybe very generous when they are courting a girl. So be aware, because these women are the worst.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2495577]I have to agree to some of this although not all.
I am a believer pics and vids are an absolute waste and at times a scam.
Anything that is strictly an online thing can be a scam.
But don't pay for dinners?? That's a bit overboard.
Unless we are talking just hookers and prepagos. Then yes I agree I wouldn't pay for anything but sex and sex acts.
But I remember I got grilled because I was told I'm overpaying or spending too much and ruining the market etc etc..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Frank11;2495669]Yes it was a joke. Satire because Some Women actually are doing this overcharging guys because of appearance attire sneakers hat etc. Is their behavior correct?[/QUOTE]Ok, I understand. Some people here have put camgirls on pedestals, but I'm not one of them. Being a camgirl does not make her elite; any girl who desires can do so. Most do not make big money. The average girl who tries it lasts only one month. If they make so much money, then why are they still connecting with mongers? Because they don't, in fact, make it like they want us to believe. Not the girls who are on tinder or seeking or whatever.
Hot 9 and her slightly older 7 sister told they can make lots of money on web cam. I told her the lock down is over so that money will be drying up. She may or may not do it.
Video and pictures are BS.
(reminder story I posted before) A girl I found at Botero park, who I had sex with, tried to get me to download some App so she could send me pictures for money! If I was an idiot like some of you and would have sent her money for pix, I would then never get any real sex again. Just virtual sex.
Then if these 3 girls make money at it then they tell their friends. It matters.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2495669]I also agree girls trying to sell pictures isn't going to make them rich. unless they find petroleum in the garden.[/QUOTE]They said the same thing about Hugh Hefner. Depends on how many pictures they are selling.
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2495497]Can you share the contact of one girl who is in this group? She must have a link on Internet somewhere, right? Am I asking too much?[/QUOTE]I can send it to you if you become a ISG member. I tried already. Everybody has their own scale but none of them were eight and above on mine. You can do just as well on Mileroticos or Photosprepagos and you won't have to pay the agency fee.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2495683]They said the same thing about Hugh Hefner. Depends on how many pictures they are selling.[/QUOTE]Some will make a decent amount of money selling pics. But to get rich like I said they need a lot of luck. For every Hugh Hefner there may be 100 other guys whose magazine startup failed. Failed business ads valuable experience to their resume.
[QUOTE=Lugnut;2495664]I can't tell if you are being sarcastic about camgirls being rich. I don't think you are.
Sure, the very, very elite camgirls make big money. But 99 percent of them do not. Don't be fooled. Webcam is just a job. That's why mongers are still connecting with them. They are not special.[/QUOTE]Quoted. I also reported here my recent meeting with one of them, a standard 130 k at my place. She is saving for a motorbike and a boobs job.
[QUOTE=Villainy;2495051]
By the way, how is your Spanish? I've had some girls ask me how well I speak Spanish and I tell them that I'm learning but can speak a fair amount. They then tell me it isn't fun for them to see someone who is tied. to a translator and they won't accept those dates unless they really 'have to'.[/QUOTE]Never heard this before.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2495577]
But don't pay for dinners?? That's a bit overboard.
Unless we are talking just hookers and prepagos. Then yes I agree I wouldn't pay for anything but sex and sex acts.
[/QUOTE]In real life dating not (hookers not seeking not escort). I would never pay for a women's dinner during the courting phase. I expect friends pay 50/50. Because if I take her out to dinner three times and then she says she's not interested in me that would put me in an awkward position because I paid three dates for nothing.
Plus I broke my back earning the money at work for those three dinners.
For Free dates and courting I will just take the girl for a walk at the park.
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2495497]Can you share the contact of one girl who is in this group? She must have a link on Internet somewhere, right? Am I asking too much?[/QUOTE]Can you share $25 for membership to get the information from this group? You must have money somewhere, right? Am I asking too much?
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2495674]
But there is a trend in some of the big cities. On Tinder there is a proliferation of girls with their amazon wish list or they onlyfans links. But also there are girls who like dinners out in expensive restaurants, and even after a few dates they do not give you anything in return. And in the meantime, between a date and another, they ask you for the nails, the hair, or whatever they need. It happened to me twice. Girls were stunning, but they didn't really have any interest in my person but just in my money. And it's a trend in big cities like NY or London. They manage to handle multiple men at once, and some maybe very generous when they are courting a girl. So be aware, because these women are the worst.[/QUOTE]These women are just "innocent scammers. " She would say I didn't steal anything he gave me the money. Suuuuure.
The guys are fools being played like fiddles. Exception is if the men are looking for platonic relationships.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2495555]It's always a given.
The more you spend the more there is available to you. There are 8's and 9's our there. But you're not getting them for Centro prices.[/QUOTE]Of course many say "beauty is in the eye of the beholder," yet there tends to be a lot of agreement as to who the hottest girls are. It's funny that many of the "8's and 9's" you find in places like Fase Dos and Loutron started out in Centro. I know two New Life girls that graduated to Loutron where customers were charged six times as much, but they looked better in their first job, more natural and less hardcore. And I know two Venezuelans friends that started out stripping in Bar Maricaibo, then both added silicone and moved to Fase Dos. Both would be 8's, 9's in am the books of many guys, but both likewise looked better in their first jobs. There's plenty of very attractive girls to be found working in Centro casas and strip clubs if you have time and patience.
P.S. There's also a lot of flow from New Life and other Centro casas over to the higher end Energy casa by the stadium, same girl but triple the price.
Can anyone recommend any good agencies to use? I know a lot show pictures of girls that don't look anything like they do and some are scams. Any help is appreciated thanks.
[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2495680]Hot 9 and her slightly older 7 sister told they can make lots of money on web cam. I told her the lock down is over so that money will be drying up. She may or may not do it.
Video and pictures are BS.
(reminder story I posted before) A girl I found at Botero park, who I had sex with, tried to get me to download some App so she could send me pictures for money! If I was an idiot like some of you and would have sent her money for pix, I would then never get any real sex again. Just virtual sex.
Then if these 3 girls make money at it then they tell their friends. It matters.[/QUOTE]Agree it matters. Just like with economic opportunity and prosperity come the rise of feminism and fewer women out to make us happy. Neither can be stopped. Roll with it.
There are a lot of avenues opening up to exploit the gap between lonely sexless men of which there are hordes in the west and poor, available and decent looking chicas in the poorer countries, and more and more of this will unfortunately go virtual. It is what it is. But agree I won't be supporting it. Covid or not, habits get formed.
[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2495726]Agree it matters. Just like with economic opportunity and prosperity come the rise of feminism and fewer women out to make us happy. Neither can be stopped. Roll with it.
There are a lot of avenues opening up to exploit the gap between lonely sexless men of which there are hordes in the west and poor, available and decent looking chicas in the poorer countries, and more and more of this will unfortunately go virtual. It is what it is. But agree I won't be supporting it. Covid or not, habits get formed.[/QUOTE]I read online and someone said Ibis hotel at Medellin is guest friendly without having to pay joiner fee even that person bring a different girl to the room every night. Can't someone verify that?
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2495674]But also there are girls who like dinners out in expensive restaurants, and even after a few dates they do not give you anything in return. And in the meantime, between a date and another, they ask you for the nails, the hair, or whatever they need. It happened to me twice. Girls were stunning, but they didn't really have any interest in my person but just in my money. And it's a trend in big cities like NY or London. They manage to handle multiple men at once, and some maybe very generous when they are courting a girl. So be aware, because these women are the worst.[/QUOTE]A decent restaurant in Colombia is like $20. The purpose of taking a woman to dinner for me is to find out if she is worth an investment of my time and money and if I find her attractive in real life. Taking a woman to get her hair done is not going to help me in any way with that. That is a reward to a woman who has pleased me in and out of the bedroom or one I care about.
I think most women without much money fall into the category about wanting to take money from men and have sex with them but not feel like a prostitute. For those women, this is about dipping their toe in and not feeling like they have sold their soul. Dinner is a chance for me to tell them you can fuck me and not feel badly about it.
Guys who stupidly proclaim that is still prostitution miss the point. You are not going to have a good experience or get laid if the woman feels like a working girl.
For the most part, though, taking the working girl who has accepted what she is to dinner is a no win proposition. You are better off saving your money for sex. The exception is the woman who can give me as much pleasure with her company as with her orifices. I grant you such women are very rare.
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2495674]On Tinder there is a proliferation of girls with their amazon wish list or they onlyfans links. But also there are girls who like dinners out in expensive restaurants, and even after a few dates they do not give you anything in return. And in the meantime, between a date and another, they ask you for the nails, the hair, or whatever they need. It happened to me twice. Girls were stunning, but they didn't really have any interest in my person but just in my money. So be aware, because these women are the worst.[/QUOTE]They are not the worst. All you have to do is say no. Why you can't just say no? Because you don't want to miss out on that pussy that is why. So you throw money at it.
First off, you should know if a chick is out of your league. That is half the problem; guys are trying to go out of their lane. Same as all these big stars get famous and marry a chick that would not have looked at them twice before they were rich and famous. Then before you know she has divorced him and taken half his shit.
You think I am out here trying to holler at chicks that have pictures in their profile where they are on yachts in bikinis and shit? Nope. Because I already know what they are about. Like Jj said about me before, I am after simple chicks that live normal ass lives and work normal ass jobs, not chicks that want to portray themselves as supermodels when in actuality they don't have 2000 pesos to rub together. They were ballin on the yacht, but as soon as the dude that was paying for it all sent them home, they turned back into pumpkins. You each want a fantasy from the other. Just because it glitters does not mean it is gold.
And after a few minutes they literally stop using the translater LOL. It was like you figure it out lmao.
[QUOTE=KilledSoul;2495705]Never heard this before.[/QUOTE].
Today she said mucho money mucho sex. I said no dinero. Just a few gifts. She said ok then gifts no sex. I said no sex then take care and find someone else who pay you mucho money. So lets see who gives in. But your fired LOL.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2495647]Next time a girl asks me for 500,000 I will say 50,000 per hour because I know you're making millions with your WebCam. WebCam girls are filthy rich and then they asked for 500,000? And the girl 10 at giusto offered me 40,000 per night because her pussycat was wet. At least that is what she said. I countered her offer with 25,000 per night. I am laying down the law in COL. fuck them bitches. If they have a WebCam, they are wearing high heels, and a baseball cap, I know they have money. So I always ask for 25,000 pm in that case.
Tell these pitches the sheriff is in town. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyP9CSRSxRk[/QUOTE]Let us know how all that works out. If you go that route, I know of some stores in Colombia which sell excellent hand creams. You're going to want some nice soft hands, because your hands will end up being your only date.
Why does everyone make it so difficult? If you look at a restaurant menu and see the cheapest entree is $150 do you yell at them that you'll only pay $15? Walk your ass down the fucking street to McDonald's.
If a girl asks more than you're willing to pay, just tell her, nicely, what you pay and thank her for her time. She'll either hold firm or come back with a lower price. If you treat her with a bit of respect, she'll think of you when she needs the money. If you act like a spoiled brat, not only is she forever out of your reach. She's going to let 20-100 other girls know not to have anything to do with you. Before long you'll be lucky to find anyone under 40 who will accept a date with you.
It's incredibly simple.
1. Either ask her price or tell her what you will pay.
2. Talk nicely to her.
3. If her price is more than you will pay, tell her what you'll pay.
4. If she isn't willing to accept your price, tell her you understand, thank her and tell her maybe you will talk to her another day.
5. Move on to the next one. Repeat as necessary.
If you're going to be insulting and obnoxious during the price negotiation, why would she want to bother with you?
Ever try to rent an apartment, or buy something off a private seller? Try that "laying down the law" approach and see how well it works.
Treat people with respect. Deal with them fairly. Be nice. You'll find that you'll pay less and have a lot more options, along with much better experiences.
Or you can try it your way. Not sure why you would fly to Colombia just to sit in your room angry all day.
[QUOTE=KilledSoul;2495705]Never heard this before.[/QUOTE]I've never heard it, but I've experienced it. When I was reaching for my phone every 30 seconds, my sessions were not as good as when my Spanish improved to the point of having basic conversations.
"Chupalo y mirame" is more effective if you don't have to pick up your phone and type in "suck it and look at me." Especially when autocorrect gives you "Pata lo why mira me."
[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2495680]Hot 9 and her slightly older 7 sister told they can make lots of money on web cam. I told her the lock down is over so that money will be drying up. She may or may not do it.
Video and pictures are BS.
(reminder story I posted before) A girl I found at Botero park, who I had sex with, tried to get me to download some App so she could send me pictures for money! If I was an idiot like some of you and would have sent her money for pix, I would then never get any real sex again. Just virtual sex.
Then if these 3 girls make money at it then they tell their friends. It matters.[/QUOTE]Do you think their friends don't already know about webcam? When I was recruiting webcam models, nearly every hooker I talked to had tried it, or knew someone who did.
Actually, the end of the lockdown, or more precisely, the economy recovering, means more money spent on webcam. There's not a big crossover between webcam customers and mongers. There are some who do both, but most are either or.
I wouldn't worry too much about it. When they find out it takes 6-8 weeks of 4-8 hour days, just to get to where they make as much as they do hooking, they'll be back on the streets.
Okay guys this has been the trickiest scammer so far. She even confirmed her identity through video.
A girl on seeking.
1st red flag after agreeing to videoconference she asked for an up front gift so she can have lunch with her girlfriend.
2nd red flag she doesn't show up for the videoconference.
3rd red flag she doesn't reschedule the videoconference and disappears for 4 days after the videoconference.
She says her phone was getting fixed and that's why she was away.
4th red flag all of a sudden she and her girlfriend owe a business partner 200,000 each in a clothing sale. She wants 100,000 upfront through PayPal so she can get rid of this guy who she claims is angry and threatening her.
5th red flag she says she can only come over at 1 AM and since it's a three-hour date it ends at 4 AM. She says she is okay with staying up late. Suuure. Look how sly she is offering to come over at a time when she knows 98% of people would rather be sleeping. I mean what's the hassle can you just come tomorrow at 8 PM so we can all sleep well?
While she is asking for money I mentioned maybe you should do the videoconference this will help us build trust and confidence each other. So she does videoconference and her identity matches the photos. At 12 AM before going to sleep I message her. But of course she doesn't reply even though she said she's available at 12 AM.
6 red flag the next day during the afternoon she asked for 100,000 up front so she can pay the guy and then come over later that afternoon. The lies begin to add up. She claimed the debt would be cleared the previous night and she owed 200,000 not 100,000. And if she owes some much money why doesn't she come over and get her gift? But of course she only wants money up front. After I politely tell her I will only give her presenTS in person, she disappears on Watts app. The app indicates she has received the messages but has not read them.
This girl asked for upfront money and gifts 3 times. Offered to come over at an unreasonable hour. And made up a story with loose ends.
What she doesn't understand is if she were an honest hard-working person that can be friendly around otheRS she would have made the money. Don't let your guard down.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2495712]In real life dating not (hookers not seeking not escort). I would never pay for a women's dinner during the courting phase. I expect friends pay 50/50. Because if I take her out to dinner three times and then she says she's not interested in me that would put me in an awkward position because I paid three dates for nothing.
Plus I broke my back earning the money at work for those three dinners.
For Free dates and courting I will just take the girl for a walk at the park.[/QUOTE]Different culture here. In Colombia even with locals men are expected to pay. So I'm ok with paying for dinners and taxis.
If I'm in the USA I always pay as well but that's just me.
I don't wait 3 dates. They know based on the restaurant I take them too they're giving it up on the first date.
However if a girl still pays half the bill after I ordered top notch steak bottle of wine and a shot of expensive whiskey then she's earned the right to hold out the pussy LOL.
But if after the first date I don't get the pussy there is no second date. And so far I've never had an issue.
[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2495726]Agree it matters. Just like with economic opportunity and prosperity come the rise of feminism and fewer women out to make us happy. Neither can be stopped. Roll with it.
There are a lot of avenues opening up to exploit the gap between lonely sexless men of which there are hordes in the west and poor, available and decent looking chicas in the poorer countries, and more and more of this will unfortunately go virtual. It is what it is. But agree I won't be supporting it. Covid or not, habits get formed.[/QUOTE]Interesting ideas that you added to the conversation. Just to add a few more things. Some girls do make money with WebCam. However it isn't an easy answer. Being a cam girl or being associated with these sex industry jobs come with a huge stigma which is very real. There are social emotional consequences. I'm not going to dive deep into the issues but they are in the news and the girls have told me about it too.
Don't believe? They have cried on my shoulder talking about these things.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2495712]In real life dating not (hookers not seeking not escort). I would never pay for a women's dinner during the courting phase. I expect friends pay 50/50. Because if I take her out to dinner three times and then she says she's not interested in me that would put me in an awkward position because I paid three dates for nothing.
Plus I broke my back earning the money at work for those three dinners.
For Free dates and courting I will just take the girl for a walk at the park.[/QUOTE]In real life, whoever does the inviting picks up the check. Isn't that a universal?
[QUOTE=Shamester;2495673]You must be able to speak Spanish to succeed in Cali. The 2 popular clinicas are good options.
No different than Medellin or Bogota for Spanish.
IMO the music scene is overrated.[/QUOTE]If you're not into Salsa, it might be overrated. If you're into Salsa, it's definitely not. The week of La Feria, you can see 1 or 2 world-famous bands each day / night. I'm talking El Gran Combo, Hermanos Lebron, Grupo Niche, etc. (no Reggaeton, Bachata, Merengue, etc, only Salsa). The only thing I know of where you can approach that type lineup is during a festival in Cuba, like the annual Jazz Festival in Havana.
Anyway, my point is if you're going to be in Colombia for the week between Christmas and NY, the best place to be by far is Cali.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2495734]And after a few minutes they literally stop using the translater LOL. It was like you figure it out lmao..[/QUOTE]So you've been with some girls that are frustrated with you because you don't speak much Spanish. Not surprising, and I'm not busting your chops on this, but makes perfect sense, especially if your spending a lot of time with them. Communicating using a translator has its limitations, especially for those who speak very little Spanish and are totally dependent on a translator to communicate, hence it's a pain in the ass and boring for the girls to have to sit there trying to communicate very basic things like are you hungry, do you want something to drink, etc.
I struggle with my Spanish to communicate, and sometimes because of the girl's accents, I have a hard time understanding them. To illustrate imagine speaking with someone from California, New York, New Orleans, and South Carolina. I remember once visiting a factory in Tennessee and somebody came on the public address system and I asked if they were speaking English as the accent was so strong I could barely understand it. Or once when I was in Glasgow in Britain and couldn't understand much either albeit they were speaking English. So my point is that there is quite a variance in the Spanish at least how it is spoken in Colombia. And it's one thing to be able to speak Spanish, and another to understand Spanish. I understand way more than I can say, why and it takes a long time to learn what the words sound like when they are pronounced, especially with all the conjugations and different tenses.
The better your Spanish skills are, the easier it is to navigate things in Colombia, and especially with the Chicas.
Lolol I humbly step back.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2495738]Today she said mucho money mucho sex. I said no dinero. Just a few gifts. She said ok then gifts no sex. I said no sex then take care and find someone else who pay you mucho money. So lets see who gives in. But your fired LOL.[/QUOTE]
I can live without Bachata.
[QUOTE=Combo;2495769]If you're not into Salsa, it might be overrated. If you're into Salsa, it's definitely not. The week of La Feria, you can see 1 or 2 world-famous bands each day / night. I'm talking El Gran Combo, Hermanos Lebron, Grupo Niche, etc. (no Reggaeton, Bachata, Merengue, etc, only Salsa). The only thing I know of where you can approach that type lineup is during a festival in Cuba, like the annual Jazz Festival in Havana.
Anyway, my point is if you're going to be in Colombia for the week between Christmas and NY, the best place to be by far is Cali.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Combo;2495769]If you're not into Salsa, it might be overrated. If you're into Salsa, it's definitely not. The week of La Feria, you can see 1 or 2 world-famous bands each day / night. I'm talking El Gran Combo, Hermanos Lebron, Grupo Niche, etc. (no Reggaeton, Bachata, Merengue, etc, only Salsa). The only thing I know of where you can approach that type lineup is during a festival in Cuba, like the annual Jazz Festival in Havana.
Anyway, my point is if you're going to be in Colombia for the week between Christmas and NY, the best place to be by far is Cali.[/QUOTE]Frankie Lebrón passed away last month. The Feria will be mostly virtual this year. You can watch it on Telepacifico.
Whats my next steps to get on the plane.
[QUOTE=Luminus;2495776]Lolol I humbly step back.[/QUOTE].
But if they show up to your apartment they fucking. I just give them gifts and they happy. If you flatly say no i am not generous til i meet you face to face and they stick around. Then you are making progress
[QUOTE=Frank11;2495754]Okay guys this has been the trickiest scammer so far. She even confirmed her identity through video.
A girl on seeking.
1st red flag after agreeing to videoconference she asked for an up front gift so she can have lunch with her girlfriend.
2nd red flag she doesn't show up for the videoconference.
3rd red flag she doesn't reschedule the videoconference and disappears for 4 days after the videoconference.
She says her phone was getting fixed and that's why she was away.
4th red flag all of a sudden she and her girlfriend owe a business partner 200,000 each in a clothing sale. She wants 100,000 upfront through PayPal so she can get rid of this guy who she claims is angry and threatening her.
5th red flag she says she can only come over at 1 AM and since it's a three-hour date it ends at 4 AM. She says she is okay with staying up late. Suuure. Look how sly she is offering to come over at a time when she knows 98% of people would rather be sleeping. I mean what's the hassle can you just come tomorrow at 8 PM so we can all sleep well?
While she is asking for money I mentioned maybe you should do the videoconference this will help us build trust and confidence each other. So she does videoconference and her identity matches the photos. At 12 AM before going to sleep I message her. But of course she doesn't reply even though she said she's available at 12 AM.
6 red flag the next day during the afternoon she asked for 100,000 up front so she can pay the guy and then come over later that afternoon. The lies begin to add up. She claimed the debt would be cleared the previous night and she owed 200,000 not 100,000. And if she owes some much money why doesn't she come over and get her gift? But of course she only wants money up front. After I politely tell her I will only give her presenTS in person, she disappears on Watts app. The app indicates she has received the messages but has not read them.
This girl asked for upfront money and gifts 3 times. Offered to come over at an unreasonable hour. And made up a story with loose ends.
What she doesn't understand is if she were an honest hard-working person that can be friendly around otheRS she would have made the money. Don't let your guard down.[/QUOTE].
Whats happening on the ground over there.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2495739]Let us know how all that works out. If you go that route, I know of some stores in Colombia which sell excellent hand creams. You're going to want some nice soft hands, because your hands will end up being your only date.
[/QUOTE]Next time I'll try to make it clear what I wrote was a joke and satire. I'll explain: I've read several reports where women here charge men more money because they appear to be or addressed like or talk like foreigners. This appears to be a poor practice by this woman. How would 1 of these women feel she went to San Francisco and some guy asked for her birthplace and then told her well I will only pay you $100 per hour because you were born over there not here.
So if having an accent or baseball Hat Represents having to pay more then the joke was I ask the escort if she has a WebCam. Any girl who escorts and has a WebCam is clearly very rich. so I should only have to pay 25,000 per hour.
bad jokes happen.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2495754]Okay guys this has been the trickiest scammer so far. She even confirmed her identity through video.
A girl on seeking.
1st red flag after agreeing to videoconference she asked for an up front gift so she can have lunch with her girlfriend.
2nd red flag she doesn't show up for the videoconference.
3rd red flag she doesn't reschedule the videoconference and disappears for 4 days after the videoconference.[/QUOTE]Dude what is up with all the BS? Scheduling a videocall? What is wrong with when you are messaging with a chick just saying turn on your cam? And if she is a hooker then say come over and fuck at 8 pm and I will give you Xamountofpesos. What is with all the hemming and hawing? Again I thought the reason to deal with hookers was to cut through the BS. It seems you are keeping yourself around for it. Come fuck or kick rocks. It is simple.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2495729]
For the most part, though, taking the working girl who has accepted what she is to dinner is a no win proposition. You are better off saving your money for sex. The exception is the woman who can give me as much pleasure with her company as with her orifices. I grant you such women are very rare.[/QUOTE]Hey this is a great post. It shares personal experience. I found a woman that is great in the bedroom and at keeping me company. I found her on my 1st try lookiing for someone. So I always wondered if all women were so great or if there was just some things special about her. would it be hard to find someone like her again?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2495821]Dude what is up with all the BS? Scheduling a videocall? What is wrong with when you are messaging with a chick just saying turn on your cam? And if she is a hooker then say come over and fuck at 8 pm and I will give you Xamountofpesos. What is with all the hemming and hawing? Again I thought the reason to deal with hookers was to cut through the BS. It seems you are keeping yourself around for it. Come fuck or kick rocks. It is simple.[/QUOTE]According to reports there are a lot of dangerous criminal women out there. They want to steal and they want to drug their victims. Scheduling a video call is just part of the safety procedure so I don't become a victim of a criminal. the guard gets their ID or I get there ID because I don't do businesss with strangers nor dates with strangers.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2495757]Interesting ideas that you added to the conversation. Just to add a few more things. Some girls do make money with WebCam. However it isn't an easy answer. Being a cam girl or being associated with these sex industry jobs come with a huge stigma which is very real. There are social emotional consequences. I'm not going to dive deep into the issues but they are in the news and the girls have told me about it too.
Don't believe? They have cried on my shoulder talking about these things.[/QUOTE]Don't doubt it, but the same is true for them being a hooker and visiting strangers. I mean doing something like bigo is minor compared to being a puta right. All they have to do is wear a slightly skimpy clothes.The families of many of these Chicas know exactly what they are up to and turn a blind eye to it. I often see family members walk by as they are webcaming. Heck some of their family know they are eating tonight due to that. So they tolerate it. The concept of a young good looking girl hanging out with a wealthy older man often married is fairly well known and even tolerated / ignored in many cultures, and I sense that is the case in Colombia as well. Maybe its a part of the gang culture or something else. But its clearly there and not just with gringos. In fact when I go to fase dos etc. its often more locals, traveling businessmen, older buddies etc.
Finally as societies evolve/develop they tend to ignore these stigmas more and more. They also tend to get less religious.
Being a porn actress 30 yrs ago was far more stigmatized than it is today. And 30yrs ago porn was a lot more benign with just mostly just suck and fuck.
Heck go 30 yrs prior to that and what Marilyn Monroe did was frowned upon. Some of these societies haven't moved as far as the US yet. Let's face it, the more we "lead the world" the more they start to embrace US ideals, good in many ways, but on gender relations we are a complete clusterfuck of a country! I hope we learn from them. But doubtful as a pig is more attractive to me than the average American feminist.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2495754]Okay guys this has been the trickiest scammer so far. She even confirmed her identity through video.
A girl on seeking.
1st red flag after agreeing to videoconference she asked for an up front gift so she can have lunch with her girlfriend.
2nd red flag she doesn't show up for the videoconference.
3rd red flag she doesn't reschedule the videoconference and disappears for 4 days after the videoconference.
She says her phone was getting fixed and that's why she was away.
4th red flag all of a sudden she and her girlfriend owe a business partner 200,000 each in a clothing sale. She wants 100,000 upfront through PayPal so she can get rid of this guy who she claims is angry and threatening her.
5th red flag she says she can only come over at 1 AM and since it's a three-hour date it ends at 4 AM. She says she is okay with staying up late. Suuure. Look how sly she is offering to come over at a time when she knows 98% of people would rather be sleeping. I mean what's the hassle can you just come tomorrow at 8 PM so we can all sleep well?
While she is asking for money I mentioned maybe you should do the videoconference this will help us build trust and confidence each other. So she does videoconference and her identity matches the photos. At 12 AM before going to sleep I message her. But of course she doesn't reply even though she said she's available at 12 AM.
6 red flag the next day during the afternoon she asked for 100,000 up front so she can pay the guy and then come over later that afternoon. The lies begin to add up. She claimed the debt would be cleared the previous night and she owed 200,000 not 100,000. And if she owes some much money why doesn't she come over and get her gift? But of course she only wants money up front. After I politely tell her I will only give her presenTS in person, she disappears on Watts app. The app indicates she has received the messages but has not read them.
This girl asked for upfront money and gifts 3 times. Offered to come over at an unreasonable hour. And made up a story with loose ends.
What she doesn't understand is if she were an honest hard-working person that can be friendly around otheRS she would have made the money. Don't let your guard down.[/QUOTE]A long winded way of saying, don't send money till the deed is done. I doubt there is a monger here that hasn't heard that. Now whether all of them follow it is another story, but I think everyone has heard it. Where seeking is a little different is it's possibly a sort of hybrid between dating and mongering. Some of that maybe related to the hostile environment to prostitution in the good ole USA. So in order to sanitize it, the lines have to be blurred. So the question is how to look at a date. For me, if the chica is attractive enough, then money spent on a dinner date is a small loss, so I go along, but if it's looking like I ain't getting in those pants, it will be noted and she gets blacklisted.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2495734]And after a few minutes they literally stop using the translater LOL. It was like you figure it out lmao.
.[/QUOTE]Yes agree and some make that an excuse. One even cut the date short with me saying the communication was an issue. And I have about 30-40% Spanish, not fluent and conversational but certainly enough to get by with basics. So it happens occasionally with ones that are in demand. But most are patient with you, definitely the ones that want a repeat date.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2495824]Hey this is a great post. It shares personal experience. I found a woman that is great in the bedroom and at keeping me company. I found her on my 1st try lookiing for someone. So I always wondered if all women were so great or if there was just some things special about her. would it be hard to find someone like her again?[/QUOTE]You are assuming people want something in return. It is a trivial amount of money to most people so why sweat about it. I have no problem buying dinner for hookers who I don't even intend to have sex with. LOL.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2495821]Dude what is up with all the BS? Scheduling a videocall? What is wrong with when you are messaging with a chick just saying turn on your cam? And if she is a hooker then say come over and fuck at 8 pm and I will give you Xamountofpesos. What is with all the hemming and hawing? Again I thought the reason to deal with hookers was to cut through the BS. It seems you are keeping yourself around for it. Come fuck or kick rocks. It is simple.[/QUOTE]Elvis and Slapshot who date girls from SA don't complain so how bad can it be?
As for all the price talk, I think you should be the one who complain the loudest on here because there are even more competitions, more big spenders in Pattaya. But you just do your own thing and I don't remember you ever whine about others causing you to pay more.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2495754]Okay guys this has been the trickiest scammer so far. She even confirmed her identity through video.
A girl on seeking.
1st red flag after agreeing to videoconference she asked for an up front gift so she can have lunch with her girlfriend.
2nd red flag she doesn't show up for the videoconference.
3rd red flag she doesn't reschedule the videoconference and disappears for 4 days after the videoconference.
She says her phone was getting fixed and that's why she was away.
4th red flag all of a sudden she and her girlfriend owe a business partner 200,000 each in a clothing sale. She wants 100,000 upfront through PayPal so she can get rid of this guy who she claims is angry and threatening her.
5th red flag she says she can only come over at 1 AM and since it's a three-hour date it ends at 4 AM. She says she is okay with staying up late. Suuure. Look how sly she is offering to come over at a time when she knows 98% of people would rather be sleeping. I mean what's the hassle can you just come tomorrow at 8 PM so we can all sleep well?
While she is asking for money I mentioned maybe you should do the videoconference this will help us build trust and confidence each other. So she does videoconference and her identity matches the photos. At 12 AM before going to sleep I message her. But of course she doesn't reply even though she said she's available at 12 AM..[/QUOTE]A red flag means stop. Do not continue. There should never be a second or third red flag, but you went for 6?
If a sign says "beware of dog", how many times does the dog need to bite you before you believe it?
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2495756]Different culture here. In Colombia even with locals men are expected to pay. So I'm ok with paying for dinners and taxis.
If I'm in the USA I always pay as well but that's just me.
I don't wait 3 dates. They know based on the restaurant I take them too they're giving it up on the first date.
However if a girl still pays half the bill after I ordered top notch steak bottle of wine and a shot of expensive whiskey then she's earned the right to hold out the pussy LOL.
But if after the first date I don't get the pussy there is no second date. And so far I've never had an issue.[/QUOTE]Not really true for Colombia, amongst friends. A female friend will ask if you are inviting her, "me invitas", or she may tell you "te invito." In Colombia, inviting means your treat. It's perfectly acceptable to ask a female friend if she wants to go eat or drink without picking up the tab.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2495757]Interesting ideas that you added to the conversation. Just to add a few more things. Some girls do make money with WebCam. However it isn't an easy answer. Being a cam girl or being associated with these sex industry jobs come with a huge stigma which is very real. There are social emotional consequences. I'm not going to dive deep into the issues but they are in the news and the girls have told me about it too.
Don't believe? They have cried on my shoulder talking about these things.[/QUOTE]For some, that is true. For others it isn't.
I just checked in with my old roommate. She's doing fine, no stigma.
For th.
Well said. Great advice on negotiations.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2495739]Let us know how all that works out. If you go that route, I know of some stores in Colombia which sell excellent hand creams. You're going to want some nice soft hands, because your hands will end up being your only date.
Why does everyone make it so difficult? If you look at a restaurant menu and see the cheapest entree is $150 do you yell at them that you'll only pay $15? Walk your ass down the fucking street to McDonald's.
If a girl asks more than you're willing to pay, just tell her, nicely, what you pay and thank her for her time. She'll either hold firm or come back with a lower price. If you treat her with a bit of respect, she'll think of you when she needs the money. If you act like a spoiled brat, not only is she forever out of your reach. She's going to let 20-100 other girls know not to have anything to do with you. Before long you'll be lucky to find anyone under 40 who will accept a date with you.
It's incredibly simple.
1. Either ask her price or tell her what you will pay.
2. Talk nicely to her.
3. If her price is more than you will pay, tell her what you'll pay.
4. If she isn't willing to accept your price, tell her you understand, thank her and tell her maybe you will talk to her another day.
5. Move on to the next one. Repeat as necessary.
If you're going to be insulting and obnoxious during the price negotiation, why would she want to bother with you?
Ever try to rent an apartment, or buy something off a private seller? Try that "laying down the law" approach and see how well it works.
Treat people with respect. Deal with them fairly. Be nice. You'll find that you'll pay less and have a lot more options, along with much better experiences.
Or you can try it your way. Not sure why you would fly to Colombia just to sit in your room angry all day.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Frank11;2495757]Interesting ideas that you added to the conversation. Just to add a few more things. Some girls do make money with WebCam. However it isn't an easy answer. Being a cam girl or being associated with these sex industry jobs come with a huge stigma which is very real. There are social emotional consequences. I'm not going to dive deep into the issues but they are in the news and the girls have told me about it too.
Don't believe? They have cried on my shoulder talking about these things.[/QUOTE]For some, that is true. For others it isn't.
I just checked in with my old roommate. She's doing fine, no stigma.
For those who don't know the story:
I shared an apartment with a webcam model for almost 10 months. She's a successful webcam model. She's 30 years younger than me. I met almost her entire family, some of her friends and her ex boyfriend. All of them knew she's a webcam model. For the record she comes from an estrato 4 family.
On the other side, about 4 years ago a webcam model in Medellin jumped off a bridge in front of a metro train after some guy threatened to tell her family.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2495791]Whats my next steps to get on the plane.[/QUOTE]I could tell you, but you fired me. LOL.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2495828]According to reports there are a lot of dangerous criminal women out there. They want to steal and they want to drug their victims. Scheduling a video call is just part of the safety procedure so I don't become a victim of a criminal. the guard gets their ID or I get there ID because I don't do businesss with strangers nor dates with strangers.[/QUOTE]As I said, you're going to want to invest in some quality hand cream.
[QUOTE=SuperDan;2495406]Hello all,
I am new here and just had some questions. I am going within the next few weeks and wanted to know if you all make these girls shower before doing anything with them? Trying to be clean and as safe as I can. Also, where can I find these WhatsApp groups some of you are referring to? Thanks a lot.[/QUOTE]And my high school was in a good part of town in the good ol' US of A, jjaaja. I find the Medellin girls are obsessed with cleanliness. All my regulars and even the majority of the new ones. Usually the last words out of their moufuses before we meet is "I'll take a shower before I call the taxi. " In fact, I told Sexy Dexy to stop showering right before she arrived because I wanted to taste something real and not just soap and perfume when I ate her out. The one exception is GI Jane, who would usually come see me directly from work where she gets sweaty and has to hustle. ONE time I asked her to jump in the shower after we started sex and she laughed, took zero offense and happily complied. If you're dealing with a random street puta, then she might ask to use your shower or you can point her in that direction, I don't think she will be offended. BTW, don't be surprised if your girl avoids the hot water. Some girls love it, but I think something like 80%+ of these girls, maybe higher, live without hot water, and they are used to it. I've showered with two separate girls who laughed at me because I was "afraid" of the cold water. Chalk it up to another cross-cultural experience and go with the flow (punny).
Disclaimer: All my posts and opinions are based on a pre-Covid Medellin, I got out right before the quarantine.
Random gratuitous foto: I took this screenshot but have never met this Cali girl, yet. She swears she wants to hook up and I have not ever been ghosted, but there is always a first time. Usually I have my hooks in them pretty deep by the time we agree to meet, and they are leaving a snail trail on their way to my door. I'll let you know. Her face is a 7 with make-up. But that body is as close to a ten for me as I will come. 9+. I might tell you the punch line in a future post, but it will be so much sweeter if I wait until after I use her body like my personal playground.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2495845]You are assuming people want something in return. It is a trivial amount of money to most people so why sweat about it. I have no problem buying dinner for hookers who I don't even intend to have sex with. LOL.[/QUOTE]You can buy lunch or dinner for under 1 k. I'll happily spend 15k to buy lunch before doing the deed. If I want a no-frills fuck I'd go to a casa.
That 15k gives the girl a chance to get comfortable with you. It slows down the pace, which for me means a better and longer session.
If 15k is going to break your budget you picked the wrong hobby.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2495849]Elvis and Slapshot who date girls from SA don't complain so how bad can it be?
As for all the price talk, I think you should be the one who complain the loudest on here because there are even more competitions, more big spenders in Pattaya. But you just do your own thing and I don't remember you ever whine about others causing you to pay more.[/QUOTE]Nobody else has any effect on the price I pay.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2495798]Whats happening on the ground over there.[/QUOTE]These were made last weekend.
Tis video is by an expat that lives in Medellin, for a YouTube video its a little long but and during the middle he gets into a long conversation with another expat about why they chose to live in Medellin. At about the 24:40 he usms it up when he says "it is is picking up it is not what it was but it is almost there".
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9iUvGSvFZ4[/URL]
This guy stops and talking to the door promotor at Gusto.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbxNtkkAIeE[/URL]
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2495701]Quoted. I also reported here my recent meeting with one of them, a standard 130 k at my place. She is saving for a motorbike and a boobs job.[/QUOTE]Nature of the beast. At least none that I can find on the InterWeb. My best guess? 2% of the girls are making a nice living. 10-20% are getting by. 80% try it and have to drop out in a year or less. The people who own the sites are getting rich. Supposedly there is a high rise building in Medellin where every floor, every room, is occupied by a cam model. Anyone else heard this or can verify? I am pretty sure they don't get free tours, jaja.
Videocalls, voicenotes, videonotes all help in deciphering your potential clients integrity. You might lose her interest but better safe than sorry. This kind of behavior is just built in ones character. And that's how they flow. I am definitely that way safety first.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2495828]According to reports there are a lot of dangerous criminal women out there. They want to steal and they want to drug their victims. Scheduling a video call is just part of the safety procedure so I don't become a victim of a criminal. the guard gets their ID or I get there ID because I don't do businesss with strangers nor dates with strangers.[/QUOTE].
I really regret having to pass this along. We have at least one total dirtbag in our midst. A member asked about a certain girl that he found on FaceBook. I responded that I had met her before and shared a few short observations that were true and designed to help the member decide if this was a good person for him to see. The comments were mostly positive. Well, I bet you can see where this is going.
I got a message from the lady last night and she was steamed that I had spoken about her in this group.
So fair warning gentlemen. It isn't safe to speak of a lady in the forum. We will have to share intel or information through PMs because we have a fool (or more than one) among us who think that one of their hookers is their best friend and they have to pass along anything they see to the girl. Yes, I know. It is possible to have a genuine friendship with a working girl BUT that doesn't mean you share everything you read in the forum with her.
A member of the board shared some contact details with a Milk Maiden whose services he has used. I won't mention him but he can mention who he is if he likes.
Nice girl and was willing to come to Bogota with her roommate for a threesome complete with milk. She sent me tons of videos and photos and I talked to her a few times. Nice girl. I sent her a few dollars for her videos and it is obvious she is struggling to survive after seeing her surroundings and the infant she has. Was my good deed for the day. Here are a few snaps of her.
She wanted to take the bus down to Bogota but I have so many casas and street sweeties I want to hunt down there I've decided not to do it. I am sure I can find a Milk Maiden or a preggo on the streets of Santa Fe.
Showdown.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2495828]According to reports there are a lot of dangerous criminal women out there. They want to steal and they want to drug their victims. Scheduling a video call is just part of the safety procedure so I don't become a victim of a criminal. the guard gets their ID or I get there ID because I don't do businesss with strangers nor dates with strangers.[/QUOTE]This sounds very peculiar, interactions involving scheduling a video conference call prior to meeting for the first time with most women in Colombia doesn't happen. Have you ever been to Colombia, the guards in buildings are called Portero's, and they don't hang onto the girls ID's which are called Cedulas while the girls are in the room, nor are the women going to allow strangers to hang onto to their ID's.
[QUOTE=Showdown;2495956]I sent her a few dollars for her videos and it is obvious she is struggling to survive after seeing her surroundings and the infant she has.[/QUOTE]Why are you so sure she is struggling to survive? She looks pretty happy in the pictures. The surroundings appear to be a typical place to me. Don't fall in to the foreign man's guilt trap. Compared to where you are from, in 95% of the places on the earth it may appear folks are struggling to survive.
My first time in India I ran into a family that you may have thought was struggling to survive, but they had food and smiles on their faces. Not living as we are accustomed in no way means struggling to survive.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2495986]Why are you so sure she is struggling to survive? She looks pretty happy in the pictures. The surroundings appear to be a typical place to me. Don't fall in to the foreign man's guilt trap. Compared to where you are from, in 95% of the places on the earth it may appear folks are struggling to survive.
My first time in India I ran into a family that you may have thought was struggling to survive, but they had food and smiles on their faces. Not living as we are accustomed in no way means struggling to survive.[/QUOTE]Let me rephrase. I felt generous and I sent her a pittance. I learned a long time ago not to get caught up with this working girls. I got burned once or twice. But it does not mean you lose your humanity.
Showdown.
Handle it like a man. Be a bigger man LOL. Is the migration registration 24 hrs before flight the last step. I have the results on my phone. That should be good enough. I got a 96 HR results and waiting on 72 HR results.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2495869]I could tell you, but you fired me. LOL.[/QUOTE].
Hola everyone,
I'm thinking about pulling the trigger and go back to Medellin after Christmas until the new year. Does anyone know of a hotel or apartment near Parque Lleras that is guest friendly, with and without charging a fee?
I was in Medellin last year and stayed at San Peter Apartments in Laureles. It was great and did not charge me a guest fee, but it was a bit far from Lleras.
Also wondering what the chica scene is like in Medellin right now. TIA.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2495975]This sounds very peculiar, interactions involving scheduling a video conference call prior to meeting for the first time with most women in Colombia doesn't happen. Have you ever been to Colombia, the guards in buildings are called Portero's, and they don't hang onto the girls ID's which are called Cedulas while the girls are in the room, nor are the women going to allow strangers to hang onto to their ID's.[/QUOTE]It may sound Fiction to you. That is your opinion. Maybe you want To ask for an explanation? It's not fiction and And it is true. 3 dates on seeking in Columbia all have used videoconference to confirm identity. Maybe videoconference doesn't happen with escort agencies but videoconference does happen on seeking.
And I asked the guard in the condominium and they use a process called "registro" were the guards are allowed to ask to see the visitors photo ID and write down their number as requirement for entry into the condominium.
If a girl wants to be friends with the guy She has to to show her ID To the guy because she has to prove she is over 18. If the girl doesn't want to show the man her ID and doesn't want to show the guard her ID before entering the apartment complex then she should find someone else to visit because I don't want her to visit me. On seeking I don't do business with strangers and I don't do dates with strangers. Why should anybody take that risk?
I never said the guard hangs on to the girls ID. I never said the women allow strangers to hang onto their ID.
It doesn't sound peculiar to me.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2495857]A red flag means stop. Do not continue. There should never be a second or third red flag, but you went for 6?
If a sign says "beware of dog", how many times does the dog need to bite you before you believe it?[/QUOTE]
Yes I agree on the not continue. But the pickings are slim so I needed to date. Sometimes the girl may appear to be a thief but it is only because she is young, doesn't know how to communicate, inexperienced, hasn't studied negotiation.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2495870]As I said, you're going to want to invest in some quality hand cream.[/QUOTE]Maybe one day I will try that hand cream. But maybe I can do it without the hand cream. :)
[URL]https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/10/21/milwaukee-women-suspected-stealing-85000-chicago-men/[/URL]
Anyone recognize these 2 from MDE? Jajajajajaja.
I had to turn away a few girls cause they didn't carry cedula. Which I never face this issue in other countries. 99% of the girls know to carry identification or else no entry. Apparently medellin has places that don't check ID and girls will try to come without identification.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2496012]It may sound Fiction to you. That is your opinion. Maybe you want To ask for an explanation? It's not fiction and And it is true. 3 dates on seeking in Columbia all have used videoconference to confirm identity. Maybe videoconference doesn't happen with escort agencies but videoconference does happen on seeking.
And I asked the guard in the condominium and they use a process called "registro" were the guards are allowed to ask to see the visitors photo ID and write down their number as requirement for entry into the condominium.
If a girl wants to be friends with the guy She has to to show her ID To the guy because she has to prove she is over 18. If the girl doesn't want to show the man her ID and doesn't want to show the guard her ID before entering the apartment complex then she should find someone else to visit because I don't want her to visit me. On seeking I don't do business with strangers and I don't do dates with strangers. Why should anybody take that risk?
I never said the guard hangs on to the girls ID. I never said the women allow strangers to hang onto their ID.
It doesn't sound peculiar to me.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Frank11;2495757]Interesting ideas that you added to the conversation. Just to add a few more things. Some girls do make money with WebCam. However it isn't an easy answer. Being a cam girl or being associated with these sex industry jobs come with a huge stigma which is very real. There are social emotional consequences. I'm not going to dive deep into the issues but they are in the news and the girls have told me about it too.
Don't believe? They have cried on my shoulder talking about these things.[/QUOTE]Know some cam girls up in Bello and their cams are not shown in Colombia at all, one has a German name and a german them to her "show" and the other Swedish, you cannot even see them in the United States. It is just the way they have it wet up some hoe and then there are some chica in the same warehouse that run cams that can be seen in the USA. That and europe are the big markets. The spanish speaking market is much smaller.
Hey guys for those of you doubting my allegiance.
I just want to make it clear I was taking shrapnel in Cambodia while you guys were gathering your first 150,000 k and jerking off to MTV.
*THIS IS A JOKE ALERT*. LOL ROLF good times. if I took shrapnel in Cambodia I can take some criticism too.
[QUOTE=Villainy;2495945]I really regret having to pass this along. We have at least one total dirtbag in our midst. A member asked about a certain girl that he found on FaceBook. I responded that I had met her before and shared a few short observations that were true and designed to help the member decide if this was a good person for him to see. The comments were mostly positive. Well, I bet you can see where this is going.
I got a message from the lady last night and she was steamed that I had spoken about her in this group.
So fair warning gentlemen. It isn't safe to speak of a lady in the forum. We will have to share intel or information through PMs because we have a fool (or more than one) among us who think that one of their hookers is their best friend and they have to pass along anything they see to the girl. Yes, I know. It is possible to have a genuine friendship with a working girl BUT that doesn't mean you share everything you read in the forum with her.[/QUOTE]You haven't done nothing wrong mate. You have just shared your opinion about her. What's the difference if someone says his opinion through PMs or public?
[QUOTE=Frank11;2496012]It may sound Fiction to you. That is your opinion. Maybe you want To ask for an explanation? It's not fiction and And it is true. 3 dates on seeking in Columbia all have used videoconference to confirm identity. Maybe videoconference doesn't happen with escort agencies but videoconference does happen on seeking.
And I asked the guard in the condominium and they use a process called "registro" were the guards are allowed to ask to see the visitors photo ID and write down their number as requirement for entry into the condominium.
If a girl wants to be friends with the guy She has to to show her ID To the guy because she has to prove she is over 18. If the girl doesn't want to show the man her ID and doesn't want to show the guard her ID before entering the apartment complex then she should find someone else to visit because I don't want her to visit me. On seeking I don't do business with strangers and I don't do dates with strangers. Why should anybody take that risk?
I never said the guard hangs on to the girls ID. I never said the women allow strangers to hang onto their ID.
It doesn't sound peculiar to me.[/QUOTE]I have no experience with Seeking, and if video conferencing is utilized then your smart to use it, and I agree with avoiding risks albeit regardless of videoconferences, all of the girls I would consider strangers and can be very good actors. However what sounds peculiar though is the terminology you have been using in some your posts which sound generic in many ways and not specific to any one Country, hence this was the reason I asked if you have ever been to Colombia.
After three dates in Colombia you would know that the ID in Colombia is called the "Cedula", and that whom you have been calling guards are called "Porteros". Also apartment complexes in Colombia are not referred to as condominiums.
So if you haven't been to Colombia, one might assume that your currently in the interview process with three future potential dates on Seeking who you have been videoconferencing with and will be able to confirm their identity upon meeting with them in person.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2495869]I could tell you, but you fired me. LOL.[/QUOTE]Your not alone, I was fired as well and didn't even get a severance package.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2496040]*THIS IS A JOKE ALERT*. LOL ROLF good times. if I took shrapnel in Cambodia I can take some criticism too.[/QUOTE]Like one of my jokes. If Sadam couldn't kill me, why would I be worried about mfs in downtown Medellin?
[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2496035]Know some cam girls up in Bello and their cams are not shown in Colombia at all, one has a German name and a german them to her "show" and the other Swedish, you cannot even see them in the United States. [/QUOTE]What about with a VPN?
Hey if you guys know any American working girls in Colombia hook me up by pm. I'm looking for someone who can call me daddy with an American accent while we fuck.
Ok, True story, in Kanada there is this girl that I was loving, so I'm trying to talk this girl into calling me daddy. So she says, "What? No way!" So I tell her, "But listen, after all the things we did in the bedroom you can't call me daddy? I practically had it balls deep in your ass, and that was nothing, it was like having breakfast." She slowly turned her head towards me, glared, she was breathing fire, and then with a heavy French accent, "Fuck you, I'm not calling you daddy!" Her eyes Became narrow like cats do.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhahahahaahahahahahahaha. ROLF LOL haahahahahahahhahahahahahhah the dog house! hahahahashasahhahahahhahahahahahahhaa
Lay down the law, fellas. 25,000 per hour. And I'm doing you a favor here.
[QUOTE=Villainy;2495945]I really regret having to pass this along. We have at least one total dirtbag in our midst. A member asked about a certain girl that he found on FaceBook. I responded that I had met her before and shared a few short observations that were true and designed to help the member decide if this was a good person for him to see. The comments were mostly positive. Well, I bet you can see where this is going.
I got a message from the lady last night and she was steamed that I had spoken about her in this group.[/QUOTE]Some of us have to find out the hard way that there are all kinds on this board. I learned when I hooked a guy with a chick in Thailand with her permission, but after their meeting she never spoke to me again for some reason. Even when I ran into her in public she would ignore me. I will talk about the where, when, how much, but you got to find your own who. YMMV anyway so no sense in chasing after a chick because of someone else's experience with her. Create your own experiences.
No more backing you. LOL
[QUOTE=Frank11;2496059]Hey if you guys know any American working girls in Colombia hook me up by pm. I'm looking for someone who can call me daddy with an American accent while we fuck.
Ok, True story, in Kanada there is this girl that I was loving, so I'm trying to talk this girl into calling me daddy. So she says, "What? No way!" So I tell her, "But listen, after all the things we did in the bedroom you can't call me daddy? I practically had it balls deep in your ass, and that was nothing, it was like having breakfast." She slowly turned her head towards me, glared, she was breathing fire, and then with a heavy French accent, "Fuck you, I'm not calling you daddy!" Her eyes Became narrow like a cat's eyes.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhahahahaahahahahahahaha. ROLF LOL haahahahahahahhahahahahahhah the dog house! hahahahashasahhahahahhahahahahahahhaa
Lay down the law.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Blakman;2496066]No more backing you. LOL
[/QUOTE]*IT WAS JUST A JOKE ALERT* something very similar actually did happen but I fixed it up to make a better story. And the girl still loves me.
Lay down the law, fellas. 25,000 per hour, and I'm doing you a favor, here.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2496061]Some of us have to find out the hard way that there are all kinds on this board. I learned when I hooked a guy with a chick in Thailand with her permission, but after their meeting she never spoke to me again for some reason. Even when I ran into her in public she would ignore me. I will talk about the where, when, how much, but you got to find your own who. YMMV anyway so no sense in chasing after a chick because of someone else's experience with her. Create your own experiences.[/QUOTE]"Sounds like you are trying to be selfish and keep the hooker to yourself. " jajajajajaja.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2496066]No more backing you. LOL.[/QUOTE]Your learning now when to call a spade a spade, something has been off with the posts from the get go, kinda like the Sjob chronicles, amusing at first, somewhat credible, and then evolving into the absurd.
Maybe now you will consider rehiring me, or perhaps even Jbee2, I could take you deep into the bowels of El Centro and get you laid for 20,000 COP including the room, with a "woman", yet you would have to be tied, blindfolded, and dragged to go along with the program.
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2496078]"Sounds like you are trying to be selfish and keep the hooker to yourself. " jajajajajaja.[/QUOTE]Nah. I just don't want any strangers fucking shit up for me again. Horehouse is thataway. Go choose your own chick.
[QUOTE=Villainy;2495945]I really regret having to pass this along. We have at least one total dirtbag in our midst. A member asked about a certain girl that he found on FaceBook. I responded that I had met her before and shared a few short observations that were true and designed to help the member decide if this was a good person for him to see. The comments were mostly positive. Well, I bet you can see where this is going.
I got a message from the lady last night and she was steamed that I had spoken about her in this group.
So fair warning gentlemen. It isn't safe to speak of a lady in the forum. We will have to share intel or information through PMs because we have a fool (or more than one) among us who think that one of their hookers is their best friend and they have to pass along anything they see to the girl. Yes, I know. It is possible to have a genuine friendship with a working girl BUT that doesn't mean you share everything you read in the forum with her.[/QUOTE]Something similar happened to me a few years ago, except it was on Facebook. A dirtbag attorney asked me about one of my friends. He said he saw her profile and may be interested in seeing her. I told him I thought she was out of the business. He then asked more questions, and I let my guard down and answered some of them. A few days later, the lady contacted me and told me everything I had said to the dirtbag. The dirtbag had the balls to ask me more questions, and said "Bros before hoes". I never responded to him. No one needs to try to pull the "Bros before hoes" on me because I will trust a hooker I know before a monger I have never met.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2496083]Your learning now when to call a spade a spade, something has been off from the get go, kinda like the Sjob chronicles, amusing at first, somewhat credible, and then evolving into the absurd.
[/QUOTE]Surfer500 if you want to be rude by all means do so. Does not bother me.
Blakman Wrote "I am backing you frank1" because it appears blakman Agreed with some of my statementts regarding Colombian photo ID and security.
Then blakman Wrote "Now you lost me No more backing you. LOL" After I made an amusing joke.He even included a laughing out loud as a result of the joke.
Nowhere has blakman Called me a spade, nor said I had been off from the go, nor said that I am like S job Chronicles, nor said I am Amusing, nor somewhat credible, nor that I am absurd.
So why are you putting words into blakman mouth? Black man never said he is learning to call me a spade. He didn't say those things. You, surfer 500, said those things. Surfer 500 that is your own personal opinion.
You know whether you like my post or not I have actually contributed a lot of information. I'm not here to make friends. And I understand I made an crazy amusing joke. Not making apologies. Because I wanted to make that joke.
You surfer 500 keep questioning the veracity of my posts. But you have no evidence nor can you prove that I am lying about anything. So congratulations keep up your critical thinking and read up on Socrates and his friend Aristotle.
But remember this is just your opinion. How about you consider not being rude and let other people make up their own minds, and not put your own words and opinions into their mouth.
All my post I wrritten not to reveal anything about myself nor about any of the girls. So there's a lot of anonymous information. However my posts are not Untrue. The only thing that is off and untrue An absurd is your opinion about my post.
I could post the WhatsApp chat historyTo show all those things actually happen with the girl with the 6 red flags. But I'm not going to waste my time arguing with some guy who has God-given powers to determine what is true and what is false. You are completely wrong and if I do post the WhatsApp history you Will just be a complete embarrassment with your Psychotic accusation.
If you don't like my post at them to the ignore list and you will nevver see them again.
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2495195]BBBJ included, all for 100 k + 6000 of taxi from my place to the metro. And tomorrow I will see her again, we'll go to visit a place together and then I will have a good time for two hours at my place. For 100. Where else in the world? [/QUOTE]I seem to remember in one of your posts that you said BBBJ was a must for you, please tell how you ask for this requirement in Spanish. Thanks.
[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2496099]I seem to remember in one of your posts that you said BBBJ was a must for you, please tell how you ask for this requirement in Spanish. Thanks.[/QUOTE]"Cuanto cuesta para chuparme sin condon?
"Tienes que chuparme sin condon. Esta bien?
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2495857]A red flag means stop. Do not continue. There should never be a second or third red flag, but you went for 6?
If a sign says "beware of dog", how many times does the dog need to bite you before you believe it?[/QUOTE]You picked up on the lunacy quicker than I did and have been one of the few to call it out.
[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2496099]I seem to remember in one of your posts that you said BBBJ was a must for you, please tell how you ask for this requirement in Spanish. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Or oral natural.
Guys I'm planning to visit MDE soon, reading the forum daily and gathering a ton of info. I'll stay in a Airbnb. One thing that's making my head spin all this talk about Cedulas and condo doormen.
The last thing I want to do is book an apartment for 3 weeks and then have issues taking chicas back.
Here is what I'm unsure of / need clarification on.
Is it possible that I can book an apartment where the owner confirms I'm allowed guests but a doorman becomes a gatekeeper and denies entry?
I'm already scoping out Airbnb's and one states in the rules "visitor friendly" once over 18 with government ID, again who's checking this?
Generally speaking how are these doormen, can they be ok for a few days and then decide no more chicas or are they generally laid back and don't give a rats ass.
Maybe I'm overthinking this but I've never had to deal with condo gatekeepers while mongering.
I have a question for you guys, have you ever invited a girl to come and visit you in the US instead of you going to Colombia? I am asking because I have a friend who has a reserved suite in Las Vegas and is willing to invite someone as an escort for a weekend.
I don't know if this is possible considering that you would have to have met the girl first and she would have to have a visa, but has anyone ever pulled it off?
[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2496110]
Is it possible that I can book an apartment where the owner confirms I'm allowed guests but a doorman becomes a gatekeeper and denies entry?
I'm already scoping out Airbnb's and one states in the rules "visitor friendly" once over 18 with government ID, again who's checking this?
[/QUOTE]
It may not be possible for the guard to deny entry, unless there is some sort of Legal justification?
These doorman are actually policeman. They have their uniform on. Depending on what you want the best may be an apartment building with a police man at the gate. Preferably with cameras. These guards are allowed to ask for the ID and write down the ID number of the girl. Security is good because the newspaperr report that these girls going to the apartment drug the guy in the apartment and then steal all his belongings and Steel all his credit cards. A few posts ago someone mentioned that the monger was eating and singing Beatles songs in his apartment With the girl and the next thing he knew he woke up druged. Also tell the security guard that you will walk the girl out of the building. And if the girl leaves alone there could be something wrong and he maay agree to go knock at your door to see if you're okay.
But if you prefer something more discrete Well then.
[QUOTE=Jim0129;2496113]I have a question for you guys, have you ever invited a girl to come and visit you in the US instead of you going to Colombia? I am asking because I have a friend who has a reserved suite in Las Vegas and is willing to invite someone as an escort for a weekend.
I don't know if this is possible considering that you would have to have met the girl first and she would have to have a visa, but has anyone ever pulled it off?[/QUOTE]I've heard a similar case. But the guy who invited the escort was already very close friends with her. For example he met her a few years ago they became trustworthy friends and then A year later he invited her and she agreed.
[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2496110]Guys I'm planning to visit MDE soon, reading the forum daily and gathering a ton of info. I'll stay in a Airbnb. One thing that's making my head spin all this talk about Cedulas and condo doormen.
The last thing I want to do is book an apartment for 3 weeks and then have issues taking chicas back.
Here is what I'm unsure of / need clarification on.
Is it possible that I can book an apartment where the owner confirms I'm allowed guests but a doorman becomes a gatekeeper and denies entry?
I'm already scoping out Airbnb's and one states in the rules "visitor friendly" once over 18 with government ID, again who's checking this?
Generally speaking how are these doormen, can they be ok for a few days and then decide no more chicas or are they generally laid back and don't give a rats ass.
Maybe I'm overthinking this but I've never had to deal with condo gatekeepers while mongering.[/QUOTE]Don't sweat this, make sure where your staying is guest friendly. The doorman (Porteros) are not the Police, they don't carry guns, and if they deny entry to a visitor into the building who has a Cedula, then they are going to need to have a good excuse for denying entry with your recourse being contacting the owner. Don't be surprised if nobody checks the ID's of visitors, however there may be issues with the other residents / tenants of the building complaining about a gringo bringing in a parade of girls. With this being said, you should tell your visitors to dress down, not wearing skimpy outfits, and always try to fly under the radar.
If you speak Spanish you should try to be-friend the Porteros by occasionally bringing them snacks, cookies, etc. The Portero's know everything that goes on in the buildings they work in, and literally know who is fucking who. Having a cordial respectful attitude and showing gratitude for the job there doing will go a long way, especially if any issues come up which the Porteros can easily diffuse, so having a good rapport with them is strongly advised. Again as long as the apartment is guest friendly for visitors with a Cedula don't sweat it.
[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2495885]Nature of the beast. At least none that I can find on the InterWeb. My best guess? 2% of the girls are making a nice living. 10-20% are getting by. 80% try it and have to drop out in a year or less. The people who own the sites are getting rich. Supposedly there is a high rise building in Medellin where every floor, every room, is occupied by a cam model. Anyone else heard this or can verify? I am pretty sure they don't get free tours, jaja.[/QUOTE]Your numbers are pretty close. Just change the 1 year to 1 month or less. Practically every camgirl who makes it a year is supporting herself.
I doubt that building exists. I know of a smaller one, 3 stories, in Manila, that is used exclusively by a webcam studio to provide broadcast rooms for their models.
There are probably several high-rises in Poblado where about 10% of the apartments have webcam models living in them. I knew of at least 6 in my building of 100 apartments and I saw several girls going in and out who appeared to be models.
There are a few models with blogs worth reading, if it interests you. Sofia Storm is a good one to start with. She's originally from Bogota, retired to New Zealand.
[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2496110]Guys I'm planning to visit MDE soon, reading the forum daily and gathering a ton of info. I'll stay in a Airbnb. One thing that's making my head spin all this talk about Cedulas and condo doormen.
Maybe I'm overthinking this but I've never had to deal with condo gatekeepers while mongering.[/QUOTE]I'm currently in an airbnb near parque lleras and the doormen here are kind of a pain. Keep in mind I don't speak fluent spanish, but from what I gathered they are hesitant to allow visitors because they are afraid of a visitor bringing covid into the building. Again, I'm not 100% sure that's what the guard was saying to me but I'm pretty sure it was along the lines of that. Or that the girl I walked in was pretty obviously a working girl based on how she dressed and just her general demeanor but I never had a problem with it before in the Philippines. Or maybe the guard frowned upon letting working girls in and that was his polite way of saying to cut it out. And to be fair the airbnb listing did say "no sexual tourism" I guess.
Anyways just my experience so far, I guess I'll try using short time hotels from now on. Or try to build more of a rapport with the girl beforehand and say she's a friend or date or something. The girl I invited was straight from mileroticos. Great natural body, morena but mechanical service, I still have her contact info if anyone wants it but she's nothing special. Also, be careful about some of the lube some girls use for anal. Some of the lube they use has a numbing agent in it I guess to make anal more bearable for them but your dick will go numb if it gets on you too. Trust me.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2495995]Handle it like a man. Be a bigger man LOL. Is the migration registration 24 hrs before flight the last step. I have the results on my phone. That should be good enough. I got a 96 HR results and waiting on 72 HR results..[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure I am the bigger man. We can measure when I get to Medellin.
I'll send you my standard 30 day consulting contract and you can send me a check.
Yes, between 1-24 hours before your flight fill out the migracióand form. I'd recommend printing your test results, just in case.
[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2496035]Know some cam girls up in Bello and their cams are not shown in Colombia at all, one has a German name and a german them to her "show" and the other Swedish, you cannot even see them in the United States. It is just the way they have it wet up some hoe and then there are some chica in the same warehouse that run cams that can be seen in the USA. That and europe are the big markets. The spanish speaking market is much smaller.[/QUOTE]Webcam sites allow the model to block any country they want. Models in the US can block individual states.
You can get around the block with a VPN. However, not all. VPNs work with every site.
[QUOTE=Bookie77;2496041]You haven't done nothing wrong mate. You have just shared your opinion about her. What's the difference if someone says his opinion through PMs or public?[/QUOTE]The difference is, many girls don't want to end up on "the internet. " Some get quite upset about it. If it's a girl you wanted to repeat with, that could be shot down. Worse though, the girls all talk to each other. Your problem with one girl might get you blocked by 50 girls.
I don't even share info in PM without checking with the girl. Not going to get burned again.
[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2496110]Guys I'm planning to visit MDE soon, reading the forum daily and gathering a ton of info. I'll stay in a Airbnb. One thing that's making my head spin all this talk about Cedulas and condo doormen.
The last thing I want to do is book an apartment for 3 weeks and then have issues taking chicas back.
Here is what I'm unsure of / need clarification on.
Is it possible that I can book an apartment where the owner confirms I'm allowed guests but a doorman becomes a gatekeeper and denies entry?
.[/QUOTE]This has been covered in this thread in the past and the answer is yes! When you write the people in Airbnb or whichever app you use always ask their policy on visitors and the buildings policy on visitors. I haver heard many people say it can go against you either way. Sometimes the owner of the apartment does not want to be associated with prostitution even though the building has no rules against it, and sometimes the building has rules against it even though the owner might not mind. So I repeat: you need to message the renter using the Airbnb message service and ask about both the buildings policy on visitors and the apartment owners policy on visitors.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2496061]Some of us have to find out the hard way that there are all kinds on this board. I learned when I hooked a guy with a chick in Thailand with her permission, but after their meeting she never spoke to me again for some reason. Even when I ran into her in public she would ignore me. I will talk about the where, when, how much, but you got to find your own who. YMMV anyway so no sense in chasing after a chick because of someone else's experience with her. Create your own experiences.[/QUOTE]Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!
There are probably 20,000 hookers in Medellin who have never fucked a gringo. There are probably another 50k women who would happily give it up if only someone would ask.
I was walking El Centro with a guy who was a pro level Centro rat. He kept stopping in stores and at kiosks because he knew a woman that worked there. Some had been girlfriends, some one shot girls.
Then he stopped at a kiosk run by an old woman and her granddaughter. He talked to grandma for a few, told her he wanted to take the girl back to his room. She had him buy a dress for 20k. He bought it, gave it to the girl. She gave it back to granny, who hung it back up, and off he went with the girl.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2496069]*IT WAS JUST A JOKE ALERT* something very similar actually did happen but I fixed it up to make a better story. And the girl still loves me.
Lay down the law, fellas. 25,000 per hour, and I'm doing you a favor, here.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure keeping guys from getting laid is much of a favor.
The original poster seems disinclined to RTFF about this subject. A quick workaround is to rent a place in one of the punter clubhouses like San Peter and others. If that's not the preferred way then I recommend a quick search of Lugnut's posts during the May and June period. There are some helpful hints of what to do and what to avoid doing.
[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2496137]This has been covered in this thread in the past and the answer is yes! When you write the people in Airbnb or whichever app you use always ask their policy on visitors and the buildings policy on visitors. I haver heard many people say it can go against you either way. Sometimes the owner of the apartment does not want to be associated with prostitution even though the building has no rules against it, and sometimes the building has rules against it even though the owner might not mind. So I repeat: you need to message the renter using the Airbnb message service and ask about both the buildings policy on visitors and the apartment owners policy on visitors.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jim0129;2496113]I have a question for you guys, have you ever invited a girl to come and visit you in the US instead of you going to Colombia? I am asking because I have a friend who has a reserved suite in Las Vegas and is willing to invite someone as an escort for a weekend.
I don't know if this is possible considering that you would have to have met the girl first and she would have to have a visa, but has anyone ever pulled it off?[/QUOTE]The chances of an unemployed young female Colombian, with no family in the US, granted a tourist visa to come to the US is virtually zero. And it would take a lot of time and money to discover she is denied.
I am staying out of this battle with you and frankie.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2496083]Your learning now when to call a spade a spade, something has been off with the posts from the get go, kinda like the Sjob chronicles, amusing at first, somewhat credible, and then evolving into the absurd.
Maybe now you will consider rehiring me, or perhaps even Jbee2, I could take you deep into the bowels of El Centro and get you laid for 20,000 COP including the room, with a "woman", yet you would have to be tied, blindfolded, and dragged to go along with the program.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Frank11;2496096]Surfer500 if you want to be rude by all means do so. Does not bother me.
Blakman Wrote "I am backing you frank1" because it appears blakman Agreed with some of my statementts regarding Colombian photo ID and security.
Then blakman Wrote "Now you lost me No more backing you. LOL" After I made an amusing joke.He even included a laughing out loud as a result of the joke.
Nowhere has blakman Called me a spade, nor said I had been off from the go, nor said that I am like S job Chronicles, nor said I am Amusing, nor somewhat credible, nor that I am absurd.
So why are you putting words into blakman mouth? Black man never said he is learning to call me a spade. He didn't say those things. You, surfer 500, said those things. Surfer 500 that is your own personal opinion.
You know whether you like my post or not I have actually contributed a lot of information. I'm not here to make friends. And I understand I made an crazy amusing joke. Not making apologies. Because I wanted to make that joke.
You surfer 500 keep questioning the veracity of my posts. But you have no evidence nor can you prove that I am lying about anything. So congratulations keep up your critical thinking and read up on Socrates and his friend Aristotle.
But remember this is just your opinion. How about you consider not being rude and let other people make up their own minds, and not put your own words and opinions into their mouth..[/QUOTE]You tell him Frank!
What were you thinking Surfer? Being rude to Frank? Everyone knows being rude is my job. Stay in your lane.
Sorry about that Frank. I've been very busy and haven't had time to be properly rude to you. I'm sure Surfer500 was just trying to cover for me.
Nobody doubts your conversation with the 6 red flags girl. It's just that nobody understands why. Anyone with more experience hiring hookers than the Pope, would have walked away after the 3rd red flag. Yet you said her scam was the trickiest one yet. There was nothing tricky about it.
Surfer500 rightfully called you out, that rude bastard. From your posts it appears you have never been to Colombia. It also appears you have very little mongering experience. I don't know if you realize it yet, but none of your jokes have been amusing. As a side note, if you were taking shrapnel in Cambodia while everyone else was watching MTV, you were taking it from a museum.
If I had to guess, I'd say you're probably from a Scandinavian country and you have never been outside of Europe, but that's just a guess.
Prove me wrong. Post something which shows you've been to Colombia.
[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2496099]I seem to remember in one of your posts that you said BBBJ was a must for you, please tell how you ask for this requirement in Spanish. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Oral natural.
Sexo oral sin condon.
Chupa me sin condon.
Pone tres dedos en mi culo why llámame tú perra.
[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2496110]Guys I'm planning to visit MDE soon, reading the forum daily and gathering a ton of info. I'll stay in a Airbnb. One thing that's making my head spin all this talk about Cedulas and condo doormen.
The last thing I want to do is book an apartment for 3 weeks and then have issues taking chicas back.
Here is what I'm unsure of / need clarification on.
Is it possible that I can book an apartment where the owner confirms I'm allowed guests but a doorman becomes a gatekeeper and denies entry?
I'm already scoping out Airbnb's and one states in the rules "visitor friendly" once over 18 with government ID, again who's checking this?
Generally speaking how are these doormen, can they be ok for a few days and then decide no more chicas or are they generally laid back and don't give a rats ass.
Maybe I'm overthinking this but I've never had to deal with condo gatekeepers while mongering.[/QUOTE]Most apartment buildings will have security controlling access, called porteros. Unless you're being a dick or causing problems, you have nothing to worry about.
[QUOTE=Jim0129;2496113]I have a question for you guys, have you ever invited a girl to come and visit you in the US instead of you going to Colombia? I am asking because I have a friend who has a reserved suite in Las Vegas and is willing to invite someone as an escort for a weekend.
I don't know if this is possible considering that you would have to have met the girl first and she would have to have a visa, but has anyone ever pulled it off?[/QUOTE]There are already hookers in Las Vegas. Probably much easier than spending 90-180 days trying to get a girl a visa just to find out she will almost certainly have her application rejected unless she owns property in Colombia.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2496149]I am staying out of this battle with you and frankie..[/QUOTE]What about re-hiring me and letting me take you on a tour in El Centro, and the first lay is on me.
Maybe if Jbee2 is in town he could tag along as well.
Just imagine how much fun it would be, kind of like the three amigos on a stroll thru the park. Heck, we could even wear sombreros, I would wear my surf trunks and flip flops, you could wear your white shorts / sneakers and ball cap, and I have no clue what Jbee2 might wear, but I'm sure we would totally blend in with now one paying any attention to us.
A good time to be had for all.
[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2496148]The chances of an unemployed young female Colombian, with no family in the US, granted a tourist visa to come to the US is virtually zero. And it would take a lot of time and money to discover she is denied.[/QUOTE]As in you personally tried or your best spooning buddy tried and told you all about it during those intimate spooning moments you shared? Jajaja don't mind the sarcasm, I received the "The message you have entered is too short. Please lengthen your message to at least 10 characters" error message so this is my second try, jajjaja.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2496059]Hey if you guys know any American working girls in Colombia hook me up by pm. I'm looking for someone who can call me daddy with an American accent while we fuck.
Ok, True story, in Kanada there is this girl that I was loving, so I'm trying to talk this girl into calling me daddy. So she says, "What? No way!" So I tell her, "But listen, after all the things we did in the bedroom you can't call me daddy? I practically had it balls deep in your ass, and that was nothing, it was like having breakfast." She slowly turned her head towards me, glared, she was breathing fire, and then with a heavy French accent, "Fuck you, I'm not calling you daddy!" Her eyes Became narrow like cats do.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhahahahaahahahahahahaha. ROLF LOL haahahahahahahhahahahahahhah the dog house! hahahahashasahhahahahhahahahahahahhaa
Lay down the law, fellas. 25,000 per hour. And I'm doing you a favor here.[/QUOTE]Maybe "Papi" doesn't float your boat like "Daddy" but think of it like a Spanish lesson. And Papi is a term of endearment.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2496045]I have no experience with Seeking, and if video conferencing is utilized then your smart to use it, and I agree with avoiding risks albeit regardless of videoconferences, all of the girls I would consider strangers and can be very good actors. However what sounds peculiar though is the terminology you have been using in some your posts which sound generic in many ways and not specific to any one Country, hence this was the reason I asked if you have ever been to Colombia.
After three dates in Colombia you would know that the ID in Colombia is called the "Cedula", and that whom you have been calling guards are called "Porteros". Also apartment complexes in Colombia are not referred to as condominiums.
So if you haven't been to Colombia, one might assume that your currently in the interview process with three future potential dates on Seeking who you have been videoconferencing with and will be able to confirm their identity upon meeting with them in person.[/QUOTE]Well I see this post is not arguing but more just talking. So I could participate in this civil conversation. Yes good point I think the seeking app has a videoconference feature and it may have been recently added. I'm not sure. What's app video is better.
Some people on this form are all about privacy. For example I only revealed my location after 190 posts. And I diidn't make clear which city I was. And well yeah I think in Columbia people say "edificio" for apartment complex In the building and for a housing complex the say "condominio. " Yes that's true I just pick a similar word in English not the best translation sometimee. And I didn't bother replacing the u within O when I wrote Colombia. In the previous sentence.
Also, a Portero can be just a man that stays up all night at the gate.This man is trained to open tthe door and communicate through the sitofono But in some apartments buildings and condominiums this Portero is actually a police man who is trained in school and later in the Academy and they wear a policeman uniform and often like all policemen they are allowed to carry weapons. So the word Portero can mean 2 types of watchmen.
I'm not going to make it easy for anyone to slip something into my drinkNor scam me. I despise this type of criminal and I think I can outsmart them. I look for dates with girls who have a less "dangerous" profile. It's a little bit more expensive. But since I made only a few dates. Money spent remains low. Also I don't go to bars which are also locally places where people get drugged. I even met a hard-working educated man that played semiprofessional sport in his twenties and some girls drugged him in a bar.
And I make lousy jokes all the time. I don't give a woman a dollar unless she says before hand that I am her man. Anybody remember that old hip-hop record "I treat a beaach like 7-Up. I never have. I never will." The most I Will Spend on a woman that doesn't Share the pussy is a free walkIn the park and I will buy her a vanilla ice cream So when she eats it she can get all over her mouth and it looks like Seaman. She can have the ice cream. I am appalled at the amount of women on seeking who expect to receive free handouts.
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lay down the law, fellas. 25,000 per hour, and I'm doing you a favor, here. And, She can have the ice cream.
[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2496148]The chances of an unemployed young female Colombian, with no family in the US, granted a tourist visa to come to the US is virtually zero. And it would take a lot of time and money to discover she is denied.[/QUOTE]A buddy of mine tried that with a chick from the Philippines. It took him 10 years and quite a bit of money for her to get a visa to the US. However, once she came to the US, my friend could not wait to send her back to the PI after a short stay. She was very disappointed, as she thought they were going to get married.
Chupa sin condon.
[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2496099]I seem to remember in one of your posts that you said BBBJ was a must for you, please tell how you ask for this requirement in Spanish. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Totally agree. I know a chica who is well known to many on this board. She co-owns her little house with her mom. But she obviously has not legitimate job, she does not study, and she has no proof of any income. She, like many, used a visa service who lied for her. Putting her address in a better barrio, claiming she had a job, etc. But she still got denied. Despite the attempt at fraud.
There are a few chicas in Medellin who have a tourist visa for the USA Facebook girls. I cannot recall who, other than Maroly Garcia who has traveled to the USA Often (she had some gringo with contacts in the USA Government help her out).
[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2496148]The chances of an unemployed young female Colombian, with no family in the US, granted a tourist visa to come to the US is virtually zero. And it would take a lot of time and money to discover she is denied.[/QUOTE]
I arrived Wednesday and now have one more day until I leave on Monday. It has been a good trip. I do not have a lot to report, as the girls I've seen are non-pros, with the exception of one. I had to work hard to cultivate some of them, but it's paid off. Found a new one. She just turned 18 about two months ago. Nice.
Lots of girls still working hard to get dates. I told almost none of them that I am here, but somehow the word leaks out and the messages start flowing.
I went out last night with a fellow monger for some drinks at Lleras Park. He and his friend had invited about 10-12 girls. Obviously all of them were putas. I had been with one of the before, and she looked the best. She works out a lot! A couple of the others are friends of mine on facebook, but I've never pulled them.
Lleras Park got closed down early (at 11? Think they had too many customers. So we went to the Casa Blanca in Prado. What a dump. Used to be a low-end strip club. Now it's just a local bar with working girls hanging out. But it stays open late. I was the only gringo in the place (my fellow monger is a gringo Colombian). Never worried about my safety inside. Good distancing. Doormen handle the taxis. Girls got ripped. With booze and tussi. Got some nice grinding in with a couple of the betters one, but had already decided I was not pulling anyone since I had a 10 am Cita. Got a few numbers for next time. I'm not into tussi or other drugs, so that was a turn off. But if I'm going to fuck them for a few hours in a controlled environment (my apartment), that won't be an issue.
Trying to figure out which two to see tomowwo. Have to make the best of it.
[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2496203]I arrived Wednesday and now have one more day until I leave on Monday. It has been a good trip. I do not have a lot to report, as the girls I've seen are non-pros, with the exception of one. I had to work hard to cultivate some of them, but it's paid off. Found a new one. She just turned 18 about two months ago. Nice.
Lots of girls still working hard to get dates. I told almost none of them that I am here, but somehow the word leaks out and the messages start flowing.
I went out last night with a fellow monger for some drinks at Lleras Park. He and his friend had invited about 10-12 girls. Obviously all of them were putas. I had been with one of the before, and she looked the best. She works out a lot! A couple of the others are friends of mine on facebook, but I've never pulled them.
Lleras Park got closed down early (at 11? Think they had too many customers. So we went to the Casa Blanca in Prado. What a dump. Used to be a low-end strip club. Now it's just a local bar with working girls hanging out. But it stays open late. I was the only gringo in the place (my fellow monger is a gringo Colombian). Never worried about my safety inside. Good distancing. Doormen handle the taxis. Girls got ripped. With booze and tussi. Got some nice grinding in with a couple of the betters one, but had already decided I was not pulling anyone since I had a 10 am Cita. Got a few numbers for next time. I'm not into tussi or other drugs, so that was a turn off. But if I'm going to fuck them for a few hours in a controlled environment (my apartment), that won't be an issue..[/QUOTE]I know you mentioned the girls are nonpro except one, do they ask you for money after the intimate encounter or they just want to be around you because you are a foreigner with character?
I arrived in Bogota tonight and went to the Banco de Bogota ATM in the airport. It seems these mfs have start trying to pull a trick that a few banks in Thailand have been doing the past couple of years. You key in how much money you want then it pops up on the screen an amount with them offering to exchange your currency to pesos. ALWAYS SELECT NO unless you like getting fucked instead of doing the fucking. They will charge you 7% exchange on top of the 13,000 fee if you select yes. When you select no the money just comes out normal and you get the rate that your home bank is giving you.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2496224]I arrived in Bogota tonight and went to the Banco de Bogota ATM in the airport. It seems these mfs have start trying to pull a trick that a few banks in Thailand have been doing the past couple of years. You key in how much money you want then it pops up on the screen an amount with them offering to exchange your currency to pesos. ALWAYS SELECT NO unless you like getting fucked instead of doing the fucking. They will charge you 7% exchange on top of the 13,000 fee if you select yes. When you select no the money just comes out normal and you get the rate that your home bank is giving you.[/QUOTE]They got me in the lobby in Sharks in Darmstadt, I know it was way more than 7%, they got me good.
I typically know better, I should of had enough loot, but I took some puta to a room, and we did a bunch of upcharges and she.
Needed all my euros and then some more, so I had to use the ATM, I'm standing in the lobby in a towel with her freaking out that I didn't have enough cash LOL.
I wasn't paying attention it was 2am I was tired and they got me good on like 500 E.
[QUOTE=Frank11;2496115]It may not be possible for the guard to deny entry, unless there is some sort of Legal justification?
These doorman are actually policeman. They have their uniform on. Depending on what you want the best may be an apartment building with a police man at the gate. Preferably with cameras. These guards are allowed to ask for the ID and write down the ID number of the girl. Security is good because the newspaperr report that these girls going to the apartment drug the guy in the apartment and then steal all his belongings and Steel all his credit cards. A few posts ago someone mentioned that the monger was eating and singing Beatles songs in his apartment With the girl and the next thing he knew he woke up druged. Also tell the security guard that you will walk the girl out of the building. And if the girl leaves alone there could be something wrong and he maay agree to go knock at your door to see if you're okay.
But if you prefer something more discrete Well then.[/QUOTE]Let me correct this.
The porteros are not policemen. They have no connection to the Colombian national police. They work for a private security company. The job description is unarmed security guard. One of their duties is to control building access.
How they control access depends on the building and sometimes on the apartment. Some buildings check the seeédula. Some make copies or write down the info. Some will call to tell you you have a visitor. Some have an intercom system. Some limit the number of visitors or the time when they are allowed.
If you are going through Airbnb, read carefully and ask about the visitor policy. Better yet go through one of the companies that cater to mongers.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2496224]I arrived in Bogota tonight and went to the Banco de Bogota ATM in the airport. It seems these mfs have start trying to pull a trick that a few banks in Thailand have been doing the past couple of years. You key in how much money you want then it pops up on the screen an amount with them offering to exchange your currency to pesos. ALWAYS SELECT NO unless you like getting fucked instead of doing the fucking. They will charge you 7% exchange on top of the 13,000 fee if you select yes. When you select no the money just comes out normal and you get the rate that your home bank is giving you.[/QUOTE]Mr. E, I am frankly surprised of your surprise! You have travelled all around the world, and I understand you are expert of all pitfalls we may encounter in travelling.
You discovered the obvious, sorry to tell you that. ANYWHERE in the world, NEVER accept conversion by the ATM of the local currency to your account currency. It is near to be a scam, but they present it as "so you know for sure how much you will be charged on your bank account". ALWAYS withdraw an amount specified in the local currency. In your bank account, you will be charged the amount in local currency (e.g., COP) converted to your currency (e.g., USD) at the international interbank rate (you see it on XE.COM or Yahoo Finance) plus some 1.5% fee charged by the international circuit (most commonly Maestro/MasterCard or VISA) plus some fixed fee your bank may charge (some banks waive that).
As it was stated many times in the board, if you avoid currency conversion by the ATM, withdrawing money from ATMs can be more convenient than changing cash.
The same holds when you pay with your credit card. In many countries (and Colombia is one of those), the paying device has an option "accept conversion to EUR (or USD, whatever is your native currency) YES / NO". NEVER accept conversion. ALWAYS pay in COP. The nasty point is that many waiters in restaurants do not understand the difference and will select YES for you, thinking to do a favour to the customer. Always check and be sure they select NO. Sometimes, I had a strong discussion with the cashier in various places, even in places as Carbon de Palo supposed to be used to deal with foreigners, and I was rerely able to convince them that if they select YES I am going to pay some significant extra money to the bank.
It is good you raised this point, as many people are totally unaware of this.
[QUOTE=Lefeu;2496175]A buddy of mine tried that with a chick from the Philippines. It took him 10 years and quite a bit of money for her to get a visa to the US. However, once she came to the US, my friend could not wait to send her back to the PI after a short stay. She was very disappointed, as she thought they were going to get married.[/QUOTE]Well, I am not surprised or her disappointment! He spent TEN YEARS AND QUITE A BIT OF MONEY to give her a visa, and she should think that all this was for a short tour to see USA?? Seriously?
Anyone got a good full service massage place they'd recommend? Was going to try energy but they are closed on Sundays.
Correct. The ATMs of several banks in Colombia have for years now been presenting the foreign currency conversion option to people who use cards issued by foreign banks. Decline that option 100% of the time and there will be no problems.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2496276]Mr. E, I am frankly surprised of your surprise! You have travelled all around the world, and I understand you are expert of all pitfalls we may encounter in travelling.
You discovered the obvious, sorry to tell you that. ANYWHERE in the world, NEVER accept conversion by the ATM of the local currency to your account currency. It is near to be a scam, but they present it as "so you know for sure how much you will be charged on your bank account". ALWAYS withdraw an amount specified in the local currency. In your bank account, you will be charged the amount in local currency (e.g., COP) converted to your currency (e.g., USD) at the international interbank rate (you see it on XE.COM or Yahoo Finance) plus some 1.5% fee charged by the international circuit (most commonly Maestro/MasterCard or VISA) plus some fixed fee your bank may charge (some banks waive that).
As it was stated many times in the board, if you avoid currency conversion by the ATM, withdrawing money from ATMs can be more convenient than changing cash.
The same holds when you pay with your credit card. In many countries (and Colombia is one of those), the paying device has an option "accept conversion to EUR (or USD, whatever is your native currency) YES / NO". NEVER accept conversion. ALWAYS pay in COP. The nasty point is that many waiters in restaurants do not understand the difference and will select YES for you, thinking to do a favour to the customer. Always check and be sure they select NO. Sometimes, I had a strong discussion with the cashier in various places, even in places as Carbon de Palo supposed to be used to deal with foreigners, and I was rerely able to convince them that if they select YES I am going to pay some significant extra money to the bank..[/QUOTE]
I am confused by the terms "Colombian gringo" and "non-pro", especially "non-pro". Is non-pro a way to say you are a non-punter?
[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2496203]I arrived Wednesday and now have one more day until I leave on Monday. It has been a good trip. I do not have a lot to report, as the girls I've seen are non-pros, with the exception of one. I had to work hard to cultivate some of them, but it's paid off. Found a new one. She just turned 18 about two months ago. Nice.
Lots of girls still working hard to get dates. I told almost none of them that I am here, but somehow the word leaks out and the messages start flowing.
I went out last night with a fellow monger for some drinks at Lleras Park. He and his friend had invited about 10-12 girls. Obviously all of them were putas. I had been with one of the before, and she looked the best. She works out a lot! A couple of the others are friends of mine on facebook, but I've never pulled them.
Lleras Park got closed down early (at 11? Think they had too many customers. So we went to the Casa Blanca in Prado. What a dump. Used to be a low-end strip club. Now it's just a local bar with working girls hanging out. But it stays open late. I was the only gringo in the place (my fellow monger is a gringo Colombian). Never worried about my safety inside. Good distancing..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Frank11;2496171]Well I see this post is not arguing but more just talking. So I could participate in this civil conversation. Yes good point I think the seeking app has a videoconference feature and it may have been recently added. I'm not sure. What's app video is better.[/QUOTE]You do not use the common terms that most usually use. Also you use them to describe your experience like you have not experienced them. "Videoconference" is just one example. You also explain things in general and not talk about Medellin so that kind of lost the relevance. My SA experience is very different from yours. I have talked to many Medellin girls on Medellin and they all know why they are on the site even for some that are just exploring. if you have talked to Medellin girls, you will know the more common terms even after translator.
I don't think Mr. E is unaware of this "trick" by the banks. Rather I believe he is surprised that it happens in Colombia. I saw this conversion screen for the first time at the end of last year and it has spread to more banks this year. Overall it is a relatively new thing in Colombia. Yes these conversion offers are total bullshit.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2496276]Mr. E, I am frankly surprised of your surprise! You have travelled all around the world, and I understand you are expert of all pitfalls we may encounter in travelling.
You discovered the obvious, sorry to tell you that. ANYWHERE in the world, NEVER accept conversion by the ATM of the local currency to your account currency. It is near to be a scam, but they present it as "so you know for sure how much you will be charged on your bank account". ALWAYS withdraw an amount specified in the local currency. In your bank account, you will be charged the amount in local currency (e.g., COP) converted to your currency (e.g., USD) at the international interbank rate (you see it on XE.COM or Yahoo Finance) plus some 1.5% fee charged by the international circuit (most commonly Maestro/MasterCard or VISA) plus some fixed fee your bank may charge (some banks waive that).
As it was stated many times in the board, if you avoid currency conversion by the ATM, withdrawing money from ATMs can be more convenient than changing cash.
The same holds when you pay with your credit card. In many countries (and Colombia is one of those), the paying device has an option "accept conversion to EUR (or USD, whatever is your native currency) YES / NO". NEVER accept conversion. ALWAYS pay in COP. The nasty point is that many waiters in restaurants do not understand the difference and will select YES for you, thinking to do a favour to the customer. Always check and be sure they select NO. Sometimes, I had a strong discussion with the cashier in various places, even in places as Carbon de Palo supposed to be used to deal with foreigners, and I was rerely able to convince them that if they select YES I am going to pay some significant extra money to the bank.
It is good you raised this point, as many people are totally unaware of this.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nounce;2496300]You do not use the common terms that most usually use. Also you use them to describe your experience like you have not experienced them. "Videoconference" is just one example. [/QUOTE]That is what I was saying before. Videoconference is a term used in a formal workplace. And to have to schedule this like a formal job? Hey ho. Thursday at 1630 we will be having a videoconference and I expect you to be there and to have made all the necessary preparations. Who does that? Then he was like she missed the videoconference. Like uh oh, dereliction of duty. She is about to get put on probation. Never answered why he could not just tell her to turn on her cam all the other times he was sending messages with her. Like it is some big to do. Takes all of 30 seconds to turn on the cam and verify that is the person you are really talking to. I have nothing against him. It is just odd.