Filipinas - Opinions and Advice

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Just got back from 3 days in Boracay, as always the delightful hamlet it is.
Thinking about postings on the board, I came across exactly what people in here have been discussing. I have a case of an undereducated gal from a poor background outclassing a sophisticated lady of means and outshining her in every respect.

Here is a classic example of Dominos snobs and why they can be a pain.

I had a short notice trip provided by a friend of mine in another business. He and I get together each year for a pilgrammage to Bora to have a few beers, laughs and decompress from the hard life in Manila. Being short notice, I couldn't get any of my normal college girls to go, so I had to pull up my alternate list of attendees to cull out someone that was worthy of being in the company of Ricksan.

My friend Patrick had met a girl there last year (codename Cokegirl because he hit on her when she was drinking coke only at Pier One bar with a group of her friends that were drinking beer) and he invited her along. So I bring along my partner for the swaree, (codename Chatty, which she wasnt the three times I had met her in the past in a bar).

The 4 of us stayed at Pearl of the Pacific, on the far end of Boracay beaches, but close to several of our watering holes for convenience sake. I mean, who wants to endure too long a trike ride when you are trashed and as far as walking is concerned... are you kidding?

Anyway, I digress. Cokegirl turns out to be the classic, refined, high end filipina. High maintenance and demanding to boot. Everything Domino has talked about concerning the wilting violets held true for this one. She was leading Patrick around like a little puppy with squeals of "i want this!" and "why don't you buy me that?". She came from a good family, but was spoiled rotten. Someone should have set her straight on manners. Chatty would smile and make eye contact with me when she pulled her antics, showing those subtle expressions that have you laughing inside with the situation. Non verbal ques shed a whole new light on things when you observe them. Chatty was great at letting me know "she got it" when she and I would see the same thing happening. In fact, behind closed doors when coaxed, Chatty said "Why does he let her do him like this?" Something a filipina would never say in public.

Cokegirl led Patrick around in circles and you would have thought she was the one that organized the trip and activities, of course catered to her tastes, not ours. The group was solicited for input on what we should do only once out of 3 days. I was beside myself watching her being so bossy. Restaurant selections, where to go, what to do, after the 2nd day you felt like a member of her personal shopping tour group. Were we there to amuse her i wondered?

On the other hand Chatty and I were quietly bemused with the likes of her slovenly ways. In 3 days Chatty refused me buying items all over the island saying "it was such an honor just being able to go on this trip, you have done too much for me already". I broke the zipper on her backpack, and stopped in a market to buy her a new one (a total investment of 300p by the way) and Chatty was almost in tears with the gratitude, refusing not once, but three times of this token. I wouldn't hear no for an answer and told her I felt guilty for ruining her bag and wanted to replace it, so her stuff wouldn't fall out when we left. She finally agreed, but only after much coaxing. Try that with your average bar girl.

And you knew it was from her heart, not that she was trying to be politically correct in the moment. Here is a girl from modest means, well read I found out, with great manners, that goes out of her way to fit in and not be a bother to anyone, while enjoying a vacation away from her life, which is quite a hard one (she supports her seriously ill father and wont take a dime from me to do it, claiming it is her burden to do so, not mine). Try that with your averge Jollybreeder strumpet or in this case, with a high end high maintenance strata enamored luxo wench.

Its nice to watch someone with adoring eyes enjoy the simplest of pleasures, whether it be an afternoon sipping beers over at the bar at Puka Beach after a banka boat ride, dancing at Cocomangas, or just hanging out snorkelling. She even refused to let me pack my suitcase on the checkout day, saying she wanted to repay me for what I had done for her. Hell, I felt guilty letting her do it, but I knew she felt she had to show her appreciation in a basic way. That tells a lot about the basic person much more than which family you were born into in this particular tale.

So, the bottom line of this story is:

A girl from modest means can outclass a high end gal in some situations.
Class is in the way you approach life, not just what you get out of life.

Chatty was such a girl. Cokegirl was a stereotypical wench that needed a spanking and a wake up call. I felt sorry for Patrick, but he should have put the foot down with Cokegirl's lack of class, even though she was raised in a good family, Chatty was much classier in many ways. While I am still friends with Patrick, his friend put a wet blanket on what could have been a great mini vacation.

Your thoughts?

Ricksan

I thought you would get a kick out of this.

A Filipino friend of mine was discussing about his family matters he has faced recently. His sister was in the states in college, and living with their aunt as she went to school. Now she comes from a pretty middle class family, but Dad dotes on his daughter and gives her a car, charges cards, and allowances, and trusts her to do well in school. Go enjoy yourself, study hard, we will help you succeed little darling. But here comes the problems with living in Western Society. The dark side of life in America as far as Filipinos are concerned, especially if you have a traditional values family.

It seems Daddy's little precious made the mistake of attending a rave in the LA area and it got communicated back to Daddy-O. She was out till 3 am and didn't let anyone know until after the fact, when it was overhead in a conversation with one of her gal pals (blonde valley girl that invited her). Probably if she had been up front with it and let auntie know what she was doing it would have settled out better. What she did was sneak it into her nightlife and auntie found out after the fact. Remember the rumor mill extends back to Manila, and let's say dad wasn't amused.

As you well know, raves are a way of life in southern California and it was all pretty much innocent fun, a night out with her girlfriends but Dad has seen expose's on 20/20 and decided that it was leading the daughter down the wrong track. There will be no rufies and all night orgies for his precocious daughter!

Egads! His charming little coquette could have sex before marriage? What other decadence would she try? It was time for the electronic choke chain to be applied.

That's it he decides, he calls up auntie and muffy is on the airplane back to the RP for a little re-education on proper filipina morals, post haste!

The brother is now the sisters keeper. He is 30 and established in business. He was to get her return ticket and charge cards and keep them locked up, make sure she only goes to church and chaperoned affairs until Dad decides that she is back on the right moral track. Dad's investment in his daughters life is at stake. There will be none of that California rave business! The funny thing is, he agrees this is the right approach.

Kinda funny, eh? 24 and grounded!

When I was 24 I had already been to 10 foreign countries and spend a year in Japan on my own, but remember Filipino society is a lot more strict when it comes to "finding yourself". Its hard to relate, but I can see where they come from when they are confronted with western behavior firsthand.

I laughed and asked the brother, "what happens on the second offense?", "Grounded till you are 30?" The brother said, "Dad was being lenient and I can see where he is coming from, in fact I agree with him" I guess he had seen his own self in some of her actions and could relate now, being older and wiser. He praised his Dad on being tough with him in his own oat-sowing days. Don't think Dad didn't get in sonny boys case too!

It looks like the daughter learned her lesson, not to incur the wrath of Dad and the family. You guys probably think that most of these girls don't have morals here, but I can assure you most of the time it simply isn't true. Family pressure to succeed, especially for a woman to be chaste, is in the higher order of things in a lot of families here. We could use a lot more of that in the western world. Maybe parent pressure isn't that bad an idea. Western families could learn a lot from this episode.

Sometimes I wish my kids had been exposed to the same helping hand that some of these kids do. It may seem draconian, but maybe it nips future problems in the bud. A lot of us are expecting things to take care of themselves and bad things happen as a result down the line.

Perhaps a little more involvement and less hand wringing can set a person's life on the right track early. Once they are indeed on their own, they are prepared to make the right decisions. I hear a lot in the board about class and moral upbringing but really think of it. How far would you go to get involved in your kids life? We talk about it a lot, but seldom get involved. Sure, this i am sure was innocent in nature given the girl, but it was the underlying sneaking around part that really sealed the deal. I think Dad was more miffed at that than the event itself.

So when you look for that future someone, remember the principles they are going to bestow on your potential offspring and where they might have gotten their guidance from, and how much they might just appreciate it.

Ricksan

[QUOTE=Ricksan]
So, the bottom line of this story is:

A girl from modest means can outclass a high end gal in some situations.
Class is in the way you approach life, not just what you get out of life.

Chatty was such a girl. Cokegirl was a stereotypical wench that needed a spanking and a wake up call. I felt sorry for Patrick, but he should have put the foot down with Cokegirl's lack of class, even though she was raised in a good family, Chatty was much classier in many ways. While I am still friends with Patrick, his friend put a wet blanket on what could have been a great mini vacation.

Your thoughts?

Ricksan[/QUOTE]


Ah yes oh Ricksan.

As a good friend has said many times in similar situations. Your friends girl had lots of class. Only problem is that is was all third class.

FF

Busted out laughing when I read Ricksan's post where he said, "jollybreeder strumpet".

Note to myself: do not read Ricksan when in the office supposedly working.

Ricksan,

Can you give us a bit more info about your Boracay trip?

Is Cocomangas the place for dancing? What's the story with p4p?

Can you find many "good" girls who are also there on holiday?

I see that you stayed at Pearl of the Pacific. A bit too much for my budget. Any other recommendations?

I've been to the Philippines before, but this month I will make my first trip to Boracay. I would appreciate any info you can share.

Can anyone recommend a simple gift that would be appreciated by the ladies. I'll be in Japan before I go to the Philippines, so my first thought is to buy some kind of Japanese souviners.

I know most things imported to the Philippines can be very expensive. What about soaps or shampoos?

Any ideas would be appreciated.

X-Man,

Take a look at Lakbay.com.ph, they tend to have some good deals in there, quoted in Philippine Pesos, they also will give you some background on the area.

Boracay.com will give you info on the island. Hotels near boat station 2 are in the thick of things. Good restaurants on the beach, plenty of shopping. Hotels near boat station 1 are pricier and less tourists.

Low budget? Try Nigi Nigi e Noo Noos. Kinda funky low budget affair with fan rooms if you are into the tiki look cabanas they have it. Great bar in front. Canadian owns the place as I remember. Lots of expats hang around in the evening sipping drinks and watching the sunset.

Take your own girl along. Pick a nice one in Manila to import in. Airfare is cheap, you want to fly into Caticlan, a 5 min trike ride away to the pier to board banka boat to the resort.

Most of the hotels have package deals including transportation. They will have a sign when you step off the plane at the airport.

Cocomangas is a stellar Boracay hangout, disco, bar, pizza, t-shirts, it has it all. Great place to go dancing and drinking. The place is filled with Manila types on weekends but why waste time striking up conversation for a possible bedfest when you can have your own prequalified jollybreeder with you? Saves time, saves patience.

Hope this helps.

Ricksan

Ricksan,

I liked your post #614 in this thread on 04-12-05 very much. Thank you for that.

W

Bring Chocolate they love it and all ways ask to bring back or send to them.
And you have good chance the girls will be... sweet to you :)

Tylenol

[QUOTE=X Man]Can anyone recommend a simple gift that would be appreciated by the ladies. I'll be in Japan before I go to the Philippines, so my first thought is to buy some kind of Japanese souviners.

I know most things imported to the Philippines can be very expensive. What about soaps or shampoos?

Any ideas would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]

Ricksan: Chatty had true class which money can not buy. There are many well brought up Non-Rich girls that have class, while many rich girls have crass. A suggested spelling correction: Swaree = Soiree.

XMAn: If you can, bring in the perfume for women like Estee Lauder, Calvin Klein, Chanel, etc. They really love these. You can also buy these at the Phil Tourist Duty Free shop upon your arrival. Filipinos seem to love Pistacchio Nuts.

XMan,

I'd like to affirm genius8's comment about buying the stuff after you get to RP. I spent (read, wasted) some time shopping in my local USA stores for some perfume that my new gf wanted, only to find out that it was half the price in the duty free shop in RP.

Well another night of boredom came and went, but there is always an gem when you least expect it on the streets of Manila. My fortunes turned around quickly, and here is my latest story.

After countless nights of mongering, I had one of the wildest rides of my life last night. Yes, its true! In staid Manila you too can find a voluptous (yes Gertrude, its true) screamer amogst the flatchested, lip biting set of Jollybreeders in this fair town.

I was in a bar last night on Burgos with a business collegue of mine. It was late and we were on our last drink before we headed our separate ways home when I have a young, full breasted Chinese Filipina set down next to me. Of course it helped that my friend knew the mamasan of the place and probably she offered some fresh muff as a gift to our table. I am not talking the normal, stale, used, flabby boobs from 3 prior kids sort of gal. The little delight that sat next to me and introduced herself was a rare gem indeed.

Her father was a half-Chinese half-Macau resident, which married a half filipina, half european gal from Davao. The result was a gal that could have passed as Singaporean, with a distinctive Chinese accent and looks and nice, firm hooties. Who could ask for more?

It was her first night in the bar. She was a student (23) that was finishing up her Business Management degree and had been supporting her study in various businesses and decided to try earning a little extra cash in the trade. She was very naive to the ways of how bars worked as well as bar fines, what happens next, etc. After having an hour or so of interesting conversation on world affairs, which was the best business to start up in Manila and her future plans after college it was clear that she could be a prime romp in the rack.

She had the GFE look in her eyes, that little twinkle that tells you she had not gotten jaded and wanted to explore what could be a future relationship with a foreigner. She had lost her virginity to a european and had not had a boyfriend since he left town a year earlier. They had met via a marketing job at a major hotel here, where he was on staff. I could see what he saw in her, and his loss was my gain.

Well after paying her bar fine, she looked at the mamasan as if to say "what do I do now?" and after a few minutes was encouraged to dress up and go with me. She really looked clueless as to the next steps, which convinced me of her innocence. In fact, she almost backed out of going and me paying the barfine on a couple of occasions before she finally agreed. She was indeed looking for a long term lover, and some fun in her life, not just a romp in the sack.

We went to my place, where after a lengthy conversation we started kissing and one thing moved to another. Talk about the blushing bride! It was so much fun unwrapping those 36 D's she had, firm and proud. Also she had an ass that would just make you cry. She protected those breasts of hers like the keys to Fort Knox, for it was revealed that once you started kissing on them, she was defenseless. After an hour or so of foreplay, we ended up in the bedroom.

She screamed loud enough to wake up the neighbors for sure, as well as participated in fingering and other foreplay. Her eurosuitor had taught her well I think and she definitely loved sex, after getting comfortable with the short duration period of getting to know one another.

After being used to these lip biting coquettes here in Manila, it was a refreshing change. I think it was the asian slant to her upbringing, vs the normal repressed Catholic "sex is not to be enjoyed" background that let her express herself. Over 10 orgasms in an hour for her, and 3 for me during the evening. It was a major event when she dropped her panties, with a lot of hesitation for she didn't want to be viewed by me as "a bad girl". I truly believe that looking back on it all. Was I a lecher i thought?

So I ask you, how many big boobed Filipinas have you met that weren't jaded or used up? And, would you have felt guilty for taking the prize in this situation instead of looking at the long term prospects by waiting and developing the relationship instead of just racking her for the evening?

Sometimes you can indeed have what you want, but was it right? Pussy is an easy commodity here, and sometimes you come across a girl that is just trying to get ahead, but you can feel guilty in plucking low hanging fruit like I came across last night in the interest of draining my gonads.

I love pussy as much as the next guy, but taking advantage of her innocence in the quest for lust can make a guy feel guilty, even a lecher like me.

I think I will have to look her up, but I get the feeling she will have second thoughts on what she did last night and hide if I try to contact her, that's my observation. It was a wild night, but for her I think she will feel guilt about what she did. Maybe me too. What would you do differently?

Ricksan

Ricksan,

I would do the same, if she's working in a bar, she's there to make money, and her "nieve" approach most likely is an act. I met a girl very similar to her in the Casino Bar @ EDSA named "Ann" who acted very nieve when it came to being barfined, but the mamasan told me she had been working there for over six months and likes other girls as well. Since I only had time for ST that night, I only took her back to my hotel. After some conversation, and kissing, she took the lead opening my pants and taking me into her mouth. After an hour, I was so worn out, I couldn't go on.

Anyways, do you mind telling what bar you met her in? Is it a bar that mainly caters to asians, filipinos, or Americans and europeans? Have you called her or gone back to the bar since? How did she react if you did?

Ricksan,

This is a typical "line" that Babes use, I want you to imagine a chrous line of sweet little darlings all lined up from Northern Luzon to The Sulu, dressed in one peice outfits, top hats black fishnet stockings and high heels (man what an erotic image) all singing the song of the Philippines in their cute little cartoon chipmunk voices, sounds like this:

Its my first time doing this (barfine) Its my first time doing this( blow job in hotel room) its my first time.........(fill in the blanks anything from anal sex to posing in lingerie, a chinese basket job, a two girl double etc.)

Second chorus:

I've only had sex with one man before (Loud chorus)

Its been________years since I last had sex (fill in the blank with any number between one and fifteen)

(Right, thats why that thing stretches like gumby sweetie, man, talk about waving a stick in a cave!!!!)

Third chorus..... You are the first foreigner to make love to me.

The Spamhog says, these girls always come up with a line, your Chinese beauty should have been paid an extra 500 pesos just on the story alone
Any busty little gal like that is going to have rich Chinese all over her like flies trying to be her sugar daddy, they want a young, busty chinese mistress, she commands a premium.

Now as far as what to do about it, obviously you enjoyed the little sweetheart and she sounds like she did too (no pun intended) so I say go with it, enjoy the ride, so shes a good actress, when you think about it, isn't that part of what you pay for? A good performance,

Sounds like this should get an Oscar!

Enjoy

The Spamhog