General Info

[QUOTE=Lukasek]P.S. Two questions:

-If I want another option where to eat fish, good fish, where I can go, so far at Marius they will never see me again ?[/QUOTE]

Try this:

Shirley

Cuisine Spanish

Hours Daily 11am-midnight

Address Rua Gustavo Sampaio 620

Location Leme, Copacabana

Transportation Metrô: Integração. Bus from Metrô: Cardeal Arcoverde to Leme or bus 472

Phone 021/2275-1398

Prices Main courses R$26-R$56 (US$13-US$28/£7-£15); most are for 2 people

Credit Cards No credit cards


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[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]Try this:

Shirley

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I have been eating at Shirley's for many years. Very good seafood at reasonable prices.

[QUOTE=Hughdad]Yes, Marius is really expensive. I went there for lunch with a special GDP friend. They also tried to pad my bill for the bread they brought out first (which we did not eat.)[/QUOTE]
At most restaurants in Rio (Carretão is one exception), there often is a charge for that little basket of bread and such that they bring before the meal (couvert). If you do not speak Portuguese and can ask if it is included in the price of your meal and you do not want to pay for it, wave your finger (no not that one - your index finger) back and forth and say não. The waiter will take it away. When paying review the bill and make sure you were not charged.

[QUOTE=Exec Talent]At most restaurants in Rio (Carretão is one exception), there often is a charge for that little basket of bread and such that they bring before the meal (couvert). If you do not speak Portuguese and can ask if it is included in the price of your meal and you do not want to pay for it, wave your finger (no not that one - your index finger) back and forth and say não. The waiter will take it away. When paying review the bill and make sure you were not charged.[/QUOTE]Exactly, we refused the bread and they still tried to pad the bill for it.

[QUOTE=Hughdad]Yes, Marius is really expensive.[/QUOTE]

That is an understatement, It is worth trying once!
Glad you enjoyed your meal, but I personally would not take a GDP for a R400 lunch@ Marius.

Do try to get off the tourist trail restaurants if you have time. There are many wonderful eating places, for instance, in Botafogo, Flamengo, and Botanico to discover that aren't in the guide books. It also means you get your GDP (if she looks respectable and you have an acceptable level of social chemistry) out of the meat-market trail where she is displayed and can report back on how much you spent on her. Most GDPs know those places that are in every guide book, almost like a badge of honour. In fact it may probably be the only bit of those locales she's ever seen. Get her out of the hamster wheel resorts and you'll discover a whole different side of her (assuming that's what you are interested in). :)

[QUOTE=Buscemi]That is an understatement, It is worth trying once!
Glad you enjoyed your meal, but I personally would not take a GDP for a R400 lunch@ Marius.[/QUOTE]Yeah, she's a GDP but she's become more of a cool party buddy. She's introduced me to some friends of her's (including having one join us a few times in bed). She's taken me out to bars and to listen to music. I made her dinner a few times in my apartment. She's also helped me translate some things for some meetings I had. I treated her to Marius for her birthday - and I wanted to check it out myself as I heard alot about it and was in Rio by myself. We ate so much at lunch that we did not need dinner and we were both full the next morning.

But think about this: I spent about R$200 on her meal, drinks and dessert and I got a whole afternoon and evening of her fun company afterwards at the beach and back in my apartment - and unlimited sex - all for free. What does that equate to: R$15/hour or R$50 per pop? Of course, that is if you are thinking about purely in monetary terms. Many guys here spend that (or more) for a few hours with someone they pull from Help. So still a bargain if you want to view it that way.

But I view it as a great day at the beach and in bed. One of the best days I've ever had in Rio - and that is saying something.

[QUOTE=Christopherd]Do try to get off the tourist trail restaurants if you have time. There are many wonderful eating places, for instance, in Botafogo, Flamengo, and Botanico to discover that aren't in the guide books. It also means you get your GDP (if she looks respectable and you have an acceptable level of social chemistry) out of the meat-market trail where she is displayed and can report back on how much you spent on her. Most GDPs know those places that are in every guide book, almost like a badge of honour. In fact it may probably be the only bit of those locales she's ever seen. Get her out of the hamster wheel resorts and you'll discover a whole different side of her (assuming that's what you are interested in). :)[/QUOTE]Yes, definately interested in venturing out more and visiting some of the "local" restaurants and bars mentioned here. That Shirley's sounds great. I've visited Centro a lot last trip. I would not go to Marius a second time. I prefer the out-of-the-way places that locals like when I travel.

Thanks

Hi, I'd like to know your experience. If you know as Colombia as Brazil, could tell me what is more expensive? Are girls in Brazil hotter than Colombia?
Thanks

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]Hi, I'd like to know your experience. If you know as Colombia as Brazil, could tell me what is more expensive? Are girls in Brazil hotter than Colombia?
Thanks[/QUOTE]

Colombia is much cheaper than Brasil. I found prices there to be similar to the Buenos Aires ones.

IMO girls in Brasil hotter than Colombianas. It's more common to get PSE in Brasil than Colombia.

Colombianas have prettier faces and larger boobs on average than Brasileirinhas. But not too many mulatas there. Only Triquenas.

[QUOTE=Hughdad]How do some of these slim, sexy ladies eat so much?[/QUOTE]
It's called bulimia. Does she go into the bathroom within a half hour after eating? That is usually a clue.

Hughdad instead of bread plate, last time at Marius they charged me the dessert when I thought it was all included, as indeed, this time was, so I guess they low a bit the price, maybe cause september is low season and not much customer or for the crisi too.
Maybe I will not take a GDP there, but one regular one, who knows...zero zero had more than one that I will not regret to have close to me even at Marius :)

Amerioca thanks for sharing, do you think it is due to low quality of food at Monchique ? Cause what you had, can happens in Brazil. I was afraid at Marius, as oysters, but luckily nothing happens.

Sangue Bon thanks too, next time I will go for sure to Shirley, mainly cause I still never been to Leme and it is in my plan during my third time to Rio to explore as much as I can out of copa.

So I agree with Christopherd too, I am a bit lazy, specially if I am in holiday for short period as this time, 11 days, but I am sure there are tons of restaurants good for quality and price that you will not find in lonely planet.
I guess only when you go out of copa you start to discover the real Rio and to see how do they look like cariocas.

About this, so far as we are in general info, I was surprised to see ipanema this time, it looks for a second timer as me, so much different from copa, it seems a distric of only building and apartments with almost no internet cafe, juice shop, laundry and so on that I had the feeling if you live there, you almost need a car. For the lack of bars and restaurants in avenida atlantica looks to me as boring in comparison to copa, where it is seems much more practical as every next door you find all you need.

But on opposite side, ipanema to me looks much much more elegant and class than copa, with almost no gringo.
So close to copa, but it seems another city, so I am asking now, how many of you actually in Rio stay in copa and how many stay in ipanema ?
I have the feeling, but I know I can be totally wrong, where in copa you almost never meet regular girls in ipanema you never meet pros.
Anybody who would like to share some POV about stay or living in ipanema VS copa ?

Thanks in advance guys.

[QUOTE=Marak5]Brazil VP says country should build nuclear arms.

This is weird. Article just posted today.

[url]http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9AUCIKG0&show_article=1[/url][/QUOTE]
The Brazilian Constitution only allows nuclear energy for peaceful purposes.

[QUOTE=Lukasek]Hughdad instead of bread plate, last time at Marius they charged me the dessert when I thought it was all included, as indeed, this time was, so I guess they low a bit the price, maybe cause september is low season and not much customer or for the crisi too.
Maybe I will not take a GDP there, but one regular one, who knows...zero zero had more than one that I will not regret to have close to me even at Marius :)
[/quote]Although the bread thing is common and it's best to ask, since overcharging at tourist traps like Marius is also common.

[quote]I was afraid at Marius, as oysters, but luckily nothing happens.[/quote]You'll get fabulous oysters [url="http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?cid=4798401437989909330&q=restaurants+gourmet&hl=en"]here[/url] and without the pomp and circumstance. btw this restaurant IMHO is in a different class to other ones in the chain (such as the one in Copa, which personally I wouldn't touch).

[quote]next time I will go for sure to Shirley, mainly cause I still never been to Leme and it is in my plan during my third time to Rio to explore as much as I can out of copa.[/quote]Easy walking distance but there are a great number of decent restaurants round there. Personally I have always been disappointed with the quality of the very-hyped food in Shirleys. It can also be rather crowded. I think the reviews in LonelyPlanet etc are very old. But having said that it still has a good following so maybe I am consistently unlucky or spoilt by places where there's room to change your mind without fighting past cramped tables to go outside. Leme is nice and compact. You can explore the nice shops, do the beach, check out which restaurants look appealing and make a reservation if needed. Quite a few have live music ranging from contemporary to classical.
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It seems a distric of only building and apartments with almost no internet cafe, juice shop, laundry and so on that I had the feeling if you live there, you almost need a car. For the lack of bars and restaurants in avenida atlantica looks to me as boring in comparison to copa, where it is seems much more practical as every next door you find all you need.

But on opposite side, ipanema to me looks much much more elegant and class than copa, with almost no gringo.
So close to copa, but it seems another city, so I am asking now, how many of you actually in Rio stay in copa and how many stay in ipanema ? . . . where in copa you almost never meet regular girls in ipanema you never meet pros.
[/quote] Ipa does have all of that but is definitely more upmarket and not quite so 'built for tourists' as Copa now is. I have had aching feet many a day in Ipa. The transport is bad, the roads get clogged, and it is further and much more hassle to get to places I want to go to towards Centro. But the beach is nicer. The view is mostly nicer. It's cleaner. It's easier to meet educated people. And women do not feel quite so forced (as they do in Copa) to walk around with a badge on their forehead constantly proving and proclaiming, to anyone who wonders, that they are not a prostitute.

[QUOTE=Lorenzo]It's called bulimia. Does she go into the bathroom within a half hour after eating? That is usually a clue.[/QUOTE]You ever know anyone that had bulimia? It is a very horrible and tragic disease.