Well if anyone ever gets confused to whether they are with Lydia / Marilyn, just look at the necklace that she wears with her name on it. She never takes it off.
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Well if anyone ever gets confused to whether they are with Lydia / Marilyn, just look at the necklace that she wears with her name on it. She never takes it off.
Unfortunately most guys only look at Marilyn from her boobs down.
[QUOTE=Jackie888;1987975]Well if anyone ever gets confused to whether they are with Lydia / Marilyn, just look at the necklace that she wears with her name on it. She never takes it off.[/QUOTE]
Hi. I've mongered in other countries, but never in Mexico. I'm planning my first trip to Tijuana / HK. Thanks to this thread, I've learned about how to take the trolley to the border the border and get a cab to the Hong Kong. (A big thank you to everyone who's posted on those subjects!) Because of my previous mongering trips were in South America and the Caribbean, I also feel fairly comfortable walking into an unfamiliar bar like the Hong Kong and meeting the working ladies. So my next questions are about the next step: how to get the hotel room for the session. I've checked the Reports of Distinction thread and I haven't found a post that covers all the options, so I'm still trying to decide what the best approach to getting a room is. By scanning this thread, I've found the following options. Please reply if I got any of the following info wrong.
Option 1: Get a short-term room at the HK / Hotel Cascadas. 30 minute time limit, $18 or less.
Option 2: Get a Hong Kong VIP pass which gives you more time in the short-term rooms. - Does that mean 45 minutes?
Option 3: Get a room at Hotel Cascadas for the whole night.
Did I get all that correct? Are there any other options I missed?
30 minutes seems rushed to me. I've never had a session that was less than 45 min in the past; I like to take my time, take a shower, etc. So Option 1 doesn't sound good for me, but I could probably make it work for my first night at HK while I'm still familiarizing myself with how things work there.
Lastly, here a couple of general questions. Please don't feel like you have to try to answer them all. (I'm sure I can piece it all together one way or another.).
- Is Hotel Cascadas really the only option? Are the ladies at the Hong Kong required to do all their sessions at Cascadas? On 10/30/2016, UltraHappy posted that they have another hotel across the street. Does that mean that Hong Kong will only let their ladies go to these 2 hotels?
- If my short-term /30 minute session is over and the lady and I both want to extend the session, is that easy to do? Obviously I'd have to negotiate with the lady for more time. But what is the process to get more time in the room? For example, do I have go back to the hotel's "front desk" to pay for another 30 min?
- What are the pros & cons of getting an individual room for every session vs renting a room for the whole evening for multiple sessions? For example, are most of ladies OK with negotiating for 60-90 minute sessions or do they tend to be in a rush to get back down to the bar? Typically I only do 2 or 3 sessions per day so the cost doesn't seem like it would be much different either way. I don't mind paying a bit extra if I'll really get some flexibility on the session time.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can offer advice!
[QUOTE=Xanadont;1988320]Option 2: Get a Hong Kong VIP pass which gives you more time in the short-term rooms. - Does that mean 45 minutes?[/QUOTE]Yes.
[QUOTE=Xanadont;1988320]- Is Hotel Cascadas really the only option? Are the ladies at the Hong Kong required to do all their sessions at Cascadas? On 10/30/2016, UltraHappy posted that they have another hotel across the street. Does that mean that Hong Kong will only let their ladies go to these 2 hotels?[/QUOTE]Different members of the same family own Hotel Cascades and the two bars below (HK & Las Chevalas). Across the street, members of the same family also owns hotel Rizo de Oro and the bar below it (Bar Tropical). If you get a room at either hotel, the bar management of these three bars will allow their bar girls to go for sessions in either hotel without charging a hefty bar exit fee during the chicas' shift. Most bar chicas from these three bars will be willing to cross the street (Coahuila Ave.) for citas in the 'related' hotel.
[QUOTE=Xanadont;1988320]If my short-term /30 minute session is over and the lady and I both want to extend the session, is that easy to do? Obviously I'd have to negotiate with the lady for more time. But what is the process to get more time in the room? For example, do I have go back to the hotel's "front desk" to pay for another 30 min?[/QUOTE]Generally, after 30 minutes a towel boy will come knocking on your S / T room door to tell you time is up. You can pay the towel boy a second room fee to double your time. If the person knocking is a mesero from the bar, he might insist on you buying a bucket of fichas, which is more expensive. If nobody comes a-knocking after 30 minutes, fuck her for as long as she'll let you.
[QUOTE=Xanadont;1988320]- What are the pros & cons of getting an individual room for every session vs renting a room for the whole evening for multiple sessions? For example, are most of ladies OK with negotiating for 60-90 minute sessions or do they tend to be in a rush to get back down to the bar? Typically I only do 2 or 3 sessions per day so the cost doesn't seem like it would be much different either way. I don't mind paying a bit extra if I'll really get some flexibility on the session time.[/QUOTE]You have answered your own question, just get an overnight room. But get the HK VIP card before checking in to get a 20% discount on the overnight room at Cascades or Rizo de Oro (Wednesday through Sunday) or an 80% discount on Monday & Tuesday nights.
Last night was my first visit to the Club. HK Club exchange rate is now 17.5. The first girl I took asked for 1700 pesos. I thought it was expensive based on what I read here. Later I found out all other girls are asking 100 USD or 2000 pesos, and payment up front. I found out upfront payment after entering the room. I kind of felt it was bad because in normal situation, I can't think of a reason why it matters to her as I am basically staying at their home turf overnight. I was thinking to tell the girl to leave but I was not sure if it was the right thing to do in an unfamiliar environment. It wasn't much money so I just went alone with her. The resulting experience is not good. The girl has a pretty face but wore a shirt in the club, now I know why, her stomach does not look good due to child birth. Also, not much touching is allowed. The reason I took her because she was flirty in the club. After this, just to be sure, I bought several girls lady drinks to feel them out first. Eventually I settled on a dancer. She usually is not my type but I like her attitude based on what I see on the dance floor. She eventually agreed to payment after but I still paid her up front after entering the room to build trust. The experience is much better. Overall, the first day experience is below average.
Another common thing is that none of them kiss, WTF?
[QUOTE=Xanadont;1988320]What are the pros & cons of getting an individual room for every session vs renting a room for the whole evening for multiple sessions? For example, are most of ladies OK with negotiating for 60-90 minute sessions or do they tend to be in a rush to get back down to the bar? Typically I only do 2 or 3 sessions per day so the cost doesn't seem like it would be much different either way..[/QUOTE]I think one difference is that you will get a clean room with new towels for every session you rent.
I was in HK last night from 11 pm-12:30 am, it would seem the hot girls are still on vacation. I only saw two that were to my liking but they were busy, the rest are like Adelitas girls, big and a bit old. If this is anything like last year, most of the really hot girls will not be back until after valentines day.
And what's up with the taco stand blaring music at the end of pedeast on the TJ side, it looks brand new. Once pedwest allows people to enter TJ on the west side, dont think they will be making much money. cab driver told me it's already open to allow traffic from US to TJ on pedwest, can anyone confirm this?
Last night was my first visit to the Club. HKC exchange rate is 17.5 now. The first girl I took asked for 1700 pesos. I thought it was a little high based on what I read here. I found out upfront payment after entering the room. I wanted to tell the girl to leave but I was not sure if it was the right thing to do in an unfamiliar environment. It wasn't much money so I just went alone. The resulting experience is a little odd. The girl has a pretty face but wore a shirt in the club, now I know why, she has stomach wrinkles from child birth. Also, not much touching was allowed. The reason I took her because I like her look, and she was flirty in the club. After this session, I bought several girls lady drinks to get to more about them before taking one up. All the girls I talked to were asking 100 USD or 2000 pesos, payment up front. Eventually I picked a dancer who just came off stage. She is not my usual type but I like her attitude based on what I see on the dance floor. She eventually agreed to payment after but I still paid her up front after entering the room to build trust. The experience is much better.
Another common thing is that none of the girls I asked will kiss.
HK chicas don't offer the peso discount. Some guys here use the technique of suggesting a price instead of asking or counter offering with a discounted peso rate. I tried the no reply technique which worked until she felt my pants then raised it back up (pun intended). Normal price should have been 1600 (at 20 to 1) though. Adelitas chicas are 1200. I haven't even got much GFE from escorts. Only time I did was from the play boy club but got jacked on the VIP room rate.
[QUOTE=Squid1234;1988534]HK chicas don't offer the peso discount. Some guys here use the technique of suggesting a price instead of asking or counter offering with a discounted peso rate. I tried the no reply technique which worked until she felt my pants then raised it back up (pun intended). Normal price should have been 1600 (at 20 to 1) though. Adelitas chicas are 1200. I haven't even got much GFE from escorts. Only time I did was from the play boy club but got jacked on the VIP room rate.[/QUOTE]I finally met one who gave me the normal USD 80 price today. I think her math is not very good because she took my phone to try to convert but never got the right number. I paid her asking price afterward even though she agreed to a lower price. She did use the right conversion rate. The girl today is much nicer, very easy going. She allows "a little" kissing. On a serious note, seeing many of them are young with kids. I don't feel bad to over pay. I am done with HK girls, switching to escorts tomorrow.
[QUOTE=WindAngel;1988489]Last night was my first visit to the Club. HKC exchange rate is 17.5 now. The first girl I took asked for 1700 pesos. I thought it was a little high based on what I read here. I found out upfront payment after entering the room. I wanted to tell the girl to leave but I was not sure if it was the right thing to do in an unfamiliar environment.[/QUOTE]I also never bring up the matter of 'paying after' (despues) during negotiations. Consequently I run into the same situation sometimes of being asked for payment up front from a (new 2 me) chica as soon as we enter the room.
When faced with that situation I tell the chica that I always pay "after", and usually they back away. But if they still demand payment up-front, then I quickly relent & pay them immediately instead of arguing. But then again, I've never come close to paying any chica 1,700 pesos for a basic cita.
While you and I have decided not to insist on paying despues, many mongers will insist. And as long as sex has not begun, and she has not disrobed, you can stop the cita before it begins and ask her to leave. The hotel generally will not refund your short-term room fee, but instead give you credit for your payment if you return soon that day with a replacement chica.
I got similar experience. Most girls would ask for $80-$100 or MXN $ 2000.
I think that quite some will take it for the range MXN $1200-$1600.
You have to be patient. Some also agree for $1200. But they just decline when I talk about "payment after the session".
[QUOTE=WindAngel;1988489]Last night was my first visit to the Club. HKC exchange rate is 17.5 now. The first girl I took asked for 1700 pesos. I thought it was a little high based on what I read here. I found out upfront payment after entering the room. I wanted to tell the girl to leave but I was not sure if it was the right thing to do in an unfamiliar environment. It wasn't much money so I just went alone. The resulting experience is a little odd. The girl has a pretty face but wore a shirt in the club, now I know why, she has stomach wrinkles from child birth. Also, not much touching was allowed. The reason I took her because I like her look, and she was flirty in the club. After this session, I bought several girls lady drinks to get to more about them before taking one up. All the girls I talked to were asking 100 USD or 2000 pesos, payment up front. Eventually I picked a dancer who just came off stage. She is not my usual type but I like her attitude based on what I see on the dance floor. She eventually agreed to payment after but I still paid her up front after entering the room to build trust. The experience is much better.
Another common thing is that none of the girls I asked will kiss.[/QUOTE]
Some girls are honest, but some are not.
This might vary with many factors.
I did have unpleasant experience in the past.
For me, I can accept MXN $2000 or more, but surely would not budge for "payment after service".
[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;1988777]I also never bring up the matter of 'paying after' (despues) during negotiations. Consequently I run into the same situation sometimes of being asked for payment up front from a (new 2 me) chica as soon as we enter the room.
When faced with that situation I tell the chica that I always pay "after", and usually they back away. But if they still demand payment up-front, then I quickly relent & pay them immediately instead of arguing. But then again, I've never come close to paying any chica 1,700 pesos for a basic cita.
While you and I have decided not to insist on paying despues, many mongers will insist. And as long as sex has not begun, and she has not disrobed, you can stop the cita before it begins and ask her to leave. The hotel generally will not refund your short-term room fee, but instead give you credit for your payment if you return soon that day with a replacement chica.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WindAngel;1988665]I finally met one who gave me the normal USD 80 price today. I think her math is not very good because she took my phone to try to convert but never got the right number. I paid her asking price afterward even though she agreed to a lower price. She did use the right conversion rate. The girl today is much nicer, very easy going. She allows "a little" kissing. On a serious note, seeing many of them are young with kids. I don't feel bad to over pay. I am done with HK girls, switching to escorts tomorrow.[/QUOTE]With my experience only standing girls and musas escorts give peso discounts. Not sure if the clubs give the girls correct exchange rate, most likely HK does. Escorts get a much lower exchange rate at the hotels and I don't believe a standing girl is going to the border to exchange her money every day for a better rate (especially if she uses a taxi), so she will get a lower rate. HK normal price is 80 (and 60 for Adelita). I'm sure HK as similar rules as the US (House fee to work, min drink and table dance sale, tip DJ and bouncers, etc).
[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;1988777]I also never bring up the matter of 'paying after' (despues) during negotiations. Consequently I run into the same situation sometimes of being asked for payment up front from a (new 2 me) chica as soon as we enter the room.
When faced with that situation I tell the chica that I always pay "after", and usually they back away. But if they still demand payment up-front, then I quickly relent & pay them immediately instead of arguing. But then again, I've never come close to paying any chica 1,700 pesos for a basic cita.
While you and I have decided not to insist on paying despues, many mongers will insist. And as long as sex has not begun, and she has not disrobed, you can stop the cita before it begins and ask her to leave. The hotel generally will not refund your short-term room fee, but instead give you credit for your payment if you return soon that day with a replacement chica.[/QUOTE]If pushed for a prepay, I want to recommend a 50/50 pay before and after arrangement. She will unlikely back out, upsell, get pissed, fall asleep, rush nor pull any other bullshit stunts until it is done. If in the extremely unlikely event that she refuses, one should immediately demand a refund from her and the front desk for a refund on the room.