American Politics

[QUOTE=CaliGuy;2654645]Thank you to the 50 republicans and 2 democrats who stopped another big wasteful spending spree. BBB would have dramatically increased inflation and hurt the majority of Americans.[/QUOTE]And yet the majority of Americans (70% by some reports) support the BBB plan. [URL]https://www.dataforprogress.org/blog/2021/12/23/build-back-better-was-popular-all-year[/URL] and [URL]https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/bidens-build-back-better-framework-supported-over-half-americans-110321[/URL].

Of course, since the poll contradicts the narrative for the fascists, they will say that polls don't mean anything. What they really mean is that polls they don't agree with don't mean anything. Polls that they agree with are valid.

In fact, 50 RethugliKKKan Senators represent something less than 25% of the American people.

[QUOTE=Canada;2654643]History will prove again that nothing is going to happen to Trump from January 6 protest. Just like nothing happened to Trump with Russia collusion. This is just a far left fantasy that they can talk about over and over and over again because they need to distract their mind from Biden failures. Nothing will happen and the idiots are going to repeat it over and over and over again.[/QUOTE]What's with the "collusion thing"? First, Mueller didn't investigate collusion. The fact that fascists bring it up continually proves that they really do have room-temperature IQs.

You can howl at the moon all you want but the House Committee [B]will hold[/B] public hearings and those hearings [B]will prove[/B], beyond a shadow of a doubt that the one-term, twice-impeached former guy [B]tried to stage a coup[/B]. The fact that he and his henchmen were incompetent will come as a surprise to absolutely nobody.

[QUOTE=Canada;2654643]History will prove again that nothing is going to happen to Trump from January 6 protest. Just like nothing happened to Trump with Russia collusion.[/QUOTE]If there was one word to describe what's wrong with this country nowadays, that would be cowardice.

Despite the litany of criminal charges that should've been brought against Trump already, he's yet to be charged with anything.

I mean, just his RECORDED phone conversation with Georgia officials when he's OPENLY PRESSING them to change the votes in his favor -- how can it possibly NOT be criminal, for fuck's sake? That's a third world territory.

It's impossible to believe that anyone other than Trump could've blatantly committed so many criminal offences, one after another, in broad daylight and gotten away with it. Who's Teflon Don now?

Mindboggling, really.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2654696]And yet the majority of Americans (70% by some reports) support the BBB plan. [URL]https://www.dataforprogress.org/blog/2021/12/23/build-back-better-was-popular-all-year[/URL] and [URL]https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/bidens-build-back-better-framework-supported-over-half-americans-110321[/URL].

Of course, since the poll contradicts the narrative for the fascists, they will say that polls don't mean anything. What they really mean is that polls they don't agree with don't mean anything. Polls that they agree with are valid.

In fact, 50 RethugliKKKan Senators represent something less than 25% of the American people.[/QUOTE]70% I favor of BBB is a fabricated number by the far left only to be found on liberal fake news sites. Republicans, democrats and independents are against BBB. Only ones for it are Biden, far left, socialists and fools.

52 senators got it right and the American people are grateful.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2654703]If there was one word to describe what's wrong with this country nowadays, that would be cowardice.

Despite the litany of criminal charges that should've been brought against Trump already, he's yet to be charged with anything.

I mean, just his RECORDED phone conversation with Georgia officials when he's OPENLY PRESSING them to change the votes in his favor -- how can it possibly NOT be criminal, for fuck's sake? That's a third world territory.

It's impossible to believe that anyone other than Trump could've blatantly committed so many criminal offences, one after another, in broad daylight and gotten away with it. Who's Teflon Don now?

Mindboggling, really.[/QUOTE]You are wrong. Hunter Biden has gotten away with far more crimes than Trump and him and his dad are profiting daily from it.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy;2654705]70% I favor of BBB is a fabricated number by the far left only to be found on liberal fake news sites. Republicans, democrats and independents are against BBB. Only ones for it are Biden, far left, socialists and fools.[/QUOTE]Our resident fake ex-democrat is at it again.

[QUOTE]A recent Reuters/Ipsos poll finds that over half of Americans (56%) support the Build Back Better Framework, but that support is primarily driven by Democrats. Eighty-three percent of Democrats support the plan, while only 28% of Republicans do. [b]However, although support for the plan is split along party lines, individual components of the plan garner high support from all Americans[/b]. Expanding Medicare coverage gets the most support (80%), followed by imposing a 5% tax on incomes of over $10 million a year (70%), and universal preschool (69%). Investing in the immigration system (53%) and imposing a 15% minimum corporate tax (56%) are least supported, with the lack of support primarily from Republicans. Finally, 57% think Americans would be positively impacted, and a majority think they would personally benefit from the bill being passed.

The sample includes 449 Democrats, 381 Republicans, and 91 independents.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CaliGuy;2654705]70% I favor of BBB is a fabricated number by the far left only to be found on liberal fake news sites. Republicans, democrats and independents are against BBB. Only ones for it are Biden, far left, socialists and fools.

52 senators got it right and the American people are grateful.[/QUOTE]When it comes to the fascist Republican party, Forrest's contention that "You can't fix stupid" is on the money. And everybody knows it.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2654729]Our resident fake ex-democrat is at it again.[/QUOTE]Biden and I don't believe in polls. Just agreeing with Sleepy Joe on me thing. BBB was bad for the American people and that is why it was defeated. Common sense.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2654736]When it comes to the fascist Republican party, Forrest's contention that "You can't fix stupid" is on the money. And everybody knows it.[/QUOTE]Yes your posts prove it. Forrest knows you well.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy;2654705]70% I favor of BBB is a fabricated number by the far left only to be found on liberal fake news sites. Republicans, democrats and independents are against BBB. Only ones for it are Biden, far left, socialists and fools.

52 senators got it right and the American people are grateful.[/QUOTE]The only thing that is fabricated is your fact free posts. To paraphrase Sir Winston Churchill "Never have so many posts in so short amount of time contained so few facts".

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2654533]Yeah exactly. Presidents do not create jobs. If they are doing their jobs right, they are like refs in a football game. They cannot create a great game but they sure as hell can ruin it. Nixon put price controls on oil, supply cratered, and he fucked up the economy. Carter thought the answer was to wear sweaters and ration gasoline (seriously) and Reagan came in and got rid of the price controls and oil was cheap and plentiful for decades, and the economy zoomed. I do not think party affiliation had anything to do with anything, one president was smart and two were morons. Reagan really did not do anything. He just let the players play and made the game fair.

What I have seen now is Republicans are more honest than Dems. Here are quotes of someone I agree with:

"If Democrats had just figured a way to deliver a few things for ordinary people over the years, they would never have lost again. The formula was obvious. Single-payer health care, bulk negotiation of drug prices, antitrust action against Too Big To Fail banks or Silicon Valley's surveillance monopolists really anything that demonstrates a willingness to prioritize voters over the takeover artists and CEOs who fund the party would have given them enduring credibility..[/QUOTE]LOL. That's priceless. You open by asserting that presidents don't create jobs and then launch into a description of what Reagan did to improve the economy and create jobs. Yes, he did things to produce and preside over what was then the deepest Great Repub Recession since the Great Repub Depression of the late 1920's / early 1930's, drove the unemployment rate into ten consecutive months of 10%+ figures and achieved a final annual average jobs creation record that pales in comparison to Carter, LBJ and Clinton, each of whom did the exact opposite of what Reagan did.

But you certainly made your point that presidents do indeed create or destroy jobs and can produce and preside over Great Recessions or avert and avoid them.

Far from being mere refs, Presidents are stewards of the economy. They propose what goes or does not go into budgets and legislation. They lay out full economic agendas.

Of course, it is then up to Congress to go with it or reject it. And history clearly shows when Repub presidents largely get their way, as Reagan did in his first year in office, what follows is economic disaster and all too often a Great Recession vs when Dem presidents largely get their way, as happened for FDR, LBJ, Clinton, Obama and even Biden so far, what follows is historic jobs creation, economic expansion and, guess what, no Great Recessions.

Presidents are faced with dozens of economic decisions on proposals and plans every day that can either lead to more jobs created and economic expansion for the country or to jobs destruction and economic contraction.

The actual historical data and record of results of at least the past 100 years show Dem presidents overwhelmingly choose to support and promote the former while Repub presidents, including Reagan, overwhelmingly choose to support and promote the latter.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy;2654706]You are wrong. Hunter Biden has gotten away with far more crimes than Trump and him and his dad are profiting daily from it.[/QUOTE]There is exactly as much evidence of Hunter Biden's supposed crimes as there is in the once-term, twice-impeached former guy's lawsuits about the 2020 election being stolen. None.

Speaking for an impressive 1 hour and 51 minutes, President Joe Biden delivered the question that should define the rest of 2022, "What are Republicans for?

For the first year of the Biden presidency, Republicans have been able to universally oppose the Biden agenda while escaping scrutiny to offer alternatives. It's hardly surprising for a political party that didn't even bother to write a party platform at their last political convention. But the media's penchant for diving head-first into "Democrats in disarray" narratives while so casually accepting GOP obstructionism is a tremendous disservice to the American people.

You cannot chronicle the Biden administration's perceived shortcomings addressing COVID-19 without first acknowledging the context that the Republican Party has done anything and everything possible to sabotage life-saving health care initiatives and promote misinformation.

You cannot report on efforts to protect voting rights in America without first talking about the 19 states that have enacted new voting restriction laws or the unanimous opposition from Republicans in Congress to measures that would shore up the right to vote.

You cannot chastise the president for not having enough news conferences or doing enough interviews without pointing out that "the former guy" told more than 30,000 lies in four years.

When you look at some of the takeaways that followed the president's news conference, it's not hard to understand why he does so few of them.

Politico led with the headline "Biden breaks up with Bernie." In actuality, Biden was answering a loaded question about trying to "pull the country so far to the left." What he said was, "you guys have been trying to convince me that I am Bernie Sanders. I'm not. I like him, but I'm not Bernie Sanders. I'm not a socialist. I'm a mainstream Democrat, and I have been. " On what planet is that a breakup?

The Washington Post's "analysis" was headlined, "Biden's marathon Q&A forces White House to play cleanup – twice. " The so-called cleanup centered on the president saying out loud what everyone around the world knows to be true about the situation between Russia and Ukraine and acknowledging the obvious reality that the Republican Party's efforts to sabotage democracy may in fact impact the legitimacy of elections to come.

Who deserves more scrutiny?

I guess the media would prefer that next time Biden just flat-out lies to them. Do they really miss President Donald Trump that much?

Biden and Democrats have offered the American people an ambitious and robust policy agenda. One so popular that Republicans such as Rep. Ashley Hinson are taking credit for its successes despite voting against them.

Looking ahead to the coming year and the midterm election, the media should not allow Republicans to get away with just saying "no" to everything and anything. Rather than fixate on two senators in the Democratic Caucus, maybe spend some time looking at the 50 who have an "are" next to their name.

Rather than labeling the Democratic agenda as too far "left," maybe ask the Republicans to produce their own alternatives. Rather than parsing the truthful words of a president acting in good faith, maybe pay more attention to the avalanche of lies being told every single day by the GOP. Rather than clinging to the outdated notion of "both sides," maybe adapt to the times and start calling things as they are, rather than how you wish they were.

Ask yourself, who deserves more scrutiny: a president who acts with integrity, sincerity and honesty or the party that believes the free press is the "enemy of the people."

The fascists believe that it is the former and not the latter.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy;2654759]Biden and I don't believe in polls. Just agreeing with Sleepy Joe on me thing. BBB was bad for the American people and that is why it was defeated. Common sense.[/QUOTE]Actually, that isn't really what Biden said:

[B]Biden: 'I don't believe the polls'[/B]

[URL]https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/590512-biden-i-dont-believe-the-polls[/URL]

[QUOTE]President Biden told reporters on Wednesday that he doesn't believe the public opinion polls indicating his waning approval rating among moderates and independents.

Asked by McClatchy White House correspondent Francesca Chambers how he plans to win back moderates and independents who voted for him in 2020 but, according to polls, are now unhappy with his job performance, Biden responded I dont believe the polls."[/QUOTE]BTW, that RCP Poll of Polls thing that momentarily showed Biden's Job Approval Rating below 41% for the first time and on his 1 year anniversary in office that got wingers all excited even though it was still higher than Trump's was on his 1st year anniversary?

I said at the time they had until 12 Noon on the 20th to jam in another Rasmussen or Trafalgar poll or two and maybe they can help lift Trump out of another humiliating defeat against Biden on something for a change.

Well, that is exactly what RCP did! They jammed in another Rasmussen poll dated the 20th, I mean. And a FUX News poll!

Unfortunately for them, the result as of this writing is that Biden's Job Approval Rating on their Poll of Polls went back up to 41.2%.

[URL]https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president-biden-job-approval-7320.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2654863]Speaking for an impressive 1 hour and 51 minutes, President Joe Biden delivered the question that should define the rest of 2022, "What are Republicans for?

For the first year of the Biden presidency, Republicans have been able to universally oppose the Biden agenda while escaping scrutiny to offer alternatives. It's hardly surprising for a political party that didn't even bother to write a party platform at their last political convention. But the media's penchant for diving head-first into "Democrats in disarray" narratives while so casually accepting GOP obstructionism is a tremendous disservice to the American people.

You cannot chronicle the Biden administration's perceived shortcomings addressing COVID-19 without first acknowledging the context that the Republican Party has done anything and everything possible to sabotage life-saving health care initiatives and promote misinformation.

You cannot report on efforts to protect voting rights in America without first talking about the 19 states that have enacted new voting restriction laws or the unanimous opposition from Republicans in Congress to measures that would shore up the right to vote.[/QUOTE]The only ones that thought Biden speech was impress was China and Putin. I fortunately we don't have a president with integrity. We have a president that is a puppet for Putin and who is failing the American people. The American people know he has gone to far left. He lied to the public when he said he was a moderate. He has not tried to pass one moderate agenda. His BBB was just another big socialist give away that would have raised inflation even higher. Thank god for the GOP and a couple smart democrats who really are moderate. But the socialists hatred is severe for a moderate democrat these days.