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Hi guys,
Thanks for the info! I couldn't do much research before I came here as work was hammering me because I was leaving for travel, so now I am ready for my own hammering. Thanks to you guys I have some idea now and will be planning on acting on it.
So LDV is a bar with no rooms etc, whereas a 'casa' has these. Is this correct? But then the hotel gave me a wristband I guess to prevent guests, I'll figure out something.
[QUOTE=DcPlaneGuy; 1478136]Hi guys,
Thanks for the info! I couldn't do much research before I came here as work was hammering me because I was leaving for travel, so now I am ready for my own hammering. Thanks to you guys I have some idea now and will be planning on acting on it.
So LDV is a bar with no rooms etc, whereas a 'casa' has these. Is this correct? But then the hotel gave me a wristband I guess to prevent guests, I'll figure out something.[/QUOTE]Hi DcPlaneGuy,
Yes LDV (La Dolce Vita) is a bar located in a small shopping centre across the road from the Hotel Dann Cartagena in El Laguito. For years (long berore the Secret Service scandal) LDV has been a well known place where foreign tourists go to pick up a pro or semi-pro chica. LDV is not a casa and as such there are no 'sex on premise' facilities there. LDV is about the easiest place to find a chica to get laid in CTG although as many of the more experienced mongers on here can testify the prices can be much more expensive. When you pick up a chica in LDV she will go back to your apartment or hotel room. If your hotel is not chica friendly, or for work / professional reasons you don't want to be seen bringing ladies back to your room then there are other options.
Casas are basically places where you can have sex on the premises with the chica you choose. I have no experience using casas in CTG so I am not the best person to advise you about this. In addition to LDV and casas it is easy to pick up chicas in other areas too. If you are staying in El Laguito then if you sit in front of your hotel or apartment building there is a reasonable chance that at some point you will be approached by ladies asking if you are interested. Another place is the beach during the day, all you literally have to do is stand on the beach and look like a gringo and chances are that you will be approached by chicas or touts offering you chicas. In the evening in the old town there are some opportunities, the plaza near the Puerto del Reloj (the old clock gate) is an area where women will make eye contact or try to attract your attention as you walk past. Across the road from the Puerto del Reloj there is a park in the neighbourhood of Getsemani there are plenty of street walkers, most of these girls were of poorer quality in the looks department, but occassionally you may find a spinner. I would not advise hunting around Getsameni at night, but during the day it is ok.
Essentially LDV is a safe venue in a safe part of town, there is a wide variety of chicas on offer and the quality can be high. But LDV prices can be very high and some of the girls are hardened pros who are more interested in separating you from your cash and then moving onto the next customer, of course you still can have a great experience from LDV. Picking up chicas in the streets and on the beach tends to be much cheaper, some of the girls can also be experts at fleecing tourists so you need to be careful and the quality and variety of the chicas may not be as good as LDV but there are some great exceptions. Now if you pick up a chica from LDV or elsewhere and you cannot go back to your hotel a good option is to use a short-time love hotel. In CTG such places often provide clean and safe facilities, a large bed, shower and small fridge with drinks, they often provide condoms too. I once used a place called Las Dunas, I can't remember the address but maybe there is another monger on here who will know of it, it was clean and inexpensive and discreet, the taxi pulled into a garage right next to the room. A place like this would be a good option for you if your hotel is not chica friendly. All the best and enjoy.
Very good. I arrived here late Saturday night. Prices definitely went up a bit from 2006 which is expected with the rising tourism and safety in Colombia (president). Beautiful woman as always and street walker prepagos easy to find in laguito or bocagrande in the night and day (many of them very beautiful and many not so beautiful). Food used to be around 5k mil pesos for carne asada and now it averages around 15k-20k mil pesos!
I can say my second time here, still only about 5% or less of the residents here speak any english. IMHO it is very hard for a monger that speaks no spanish to get by with good deals and / or without a translator / guide (more $$$). Everyone here always wants to rip off gringos and get propina. Which is likely because many people here just barely make enough money to survive. I speak decent spanish as a second language and am able to get by on my own and negotiate with chicas. IN CTG, almost everything is negotiatable as far as chicas and services go. A lot of street prepagos ask for around 200mil pesos for ST but I am able to haggle down considerably. I do not like using touts because I always end up spending a considerable amount more.
Chicas on the street that are 6-9's I am able to haggle down to only 80-120mil pesos short time. In 2007 it was around 40-80mil pesos. I went to playa de Hollywood a couple times and chicas with a tout I haggled down alltogether for around 120 mil pesos for 7-9's. I think its very hard to get a girl without a tout in playa de Hollywood because there are so many touts everywhere and they act like all the girls are theirs. Girls are beautiful everywhere I go without a doubt. I went to plaza de las coches twice and found some ok / decent girls there for around 100mil pesos short time negotiated of course. Be careful alot of girls are very smart and some of them will try to rob you in your apt when your in the bathroom or not watching. I had one girl from plaza de las coches agree on 50mil pesos for short time and then got bipolar in my apartment and I ended up giving her 20k mil pesos more. Very bad and scary experience, chick seemed normal until we got in my room and she got evil. In 2007, I had two street girls in my apartment and they plotted together to go into my pants and attempt to take my wallet but I caught her and kicked them out. Thats why I do not like more than one girl at a time from my experience.
Casas are way more safe as far as sanitation and chicks go. I went to casa de Rosio's about 20 minutes drive from el Laguito. Beautiful woman! 7-10's. And cheap! I only paid around 100mil pesos for girl and casa but I did buy alot of drinks and a few for the chick.
Careful about buying drogas here! I got searched my second night here by 5 cops on a traffic stop late at night in a taxi right in Bocagrande. They scared the shit out of me and searched me for 15 minutes. Searched my wallet, shoes, pants, shirt, the whole 9 yards. They were so insistent in finding drugs on me. It is not safe to have ANY drugs while in the street atleast! They want to find things on tourists to scare you into paying them alot of money or throwing you in jail! The cops don't play here.
So far pretty good, just need to be very smart here unless you don't care about getting ripped off. Also people here are pretty friendly for the most part but you have to be smart and be on guard at all times.
I also went to a club called Al Oadras (spelling may be off) but it is a casa which is very popular with mainly locals and about 20-25minute drive from el laguito. Women here are beautiful! And they dance and strip full naked! I got one of the most beautiful 18 year old chicks I ever seen here. I spent around 100 mil for the chick and casa but again I did order some drinks here and ended up paying around 200+mil pesos for everything.
I went to LDV around my second night here and just drank some aguardiente and cervesa aguilar and scoped out the scene. Beautiful girls here as always with around 25 chicks. I got a good show and talked to many of the girls who I danced with. However I did not take any of the girls home. Most of the girls here 9-10's and I could not get down to less than 200mil pesos short time. However I did stay there when LDV closed and I think they will end up going for around 100mil pesos.
[QUOTE=Silent Monger; 1478645]Hi DcPlaneGuy,
Yes LDV (La Dolce Vita) is a bar located in a small shopping centre across the road from the Hotel Dann Cartagena in El Laguito. For years (long berore the Secret Service scandal) LDV has been a well known place where foreign tourists go to pick up a pro or semi-pro chica. LDV is not a casa and as such there are no 'sex on premise' facilities there. LDV is about the easiest place to find a chica to get laid in CTG although as many of the more experienced mongers on here can testify the prices can be much more expensive. When you pick up a chica in LDV she will go back to your apartment or hotel room. If your hotel is not chica friendly, or for work / professional reasons you don't want to be seen bringing ladies back to your room then there are other options.[/QUOTE]Hey man thanks alot, that is a great succinct explanation of the situation of here, should be sticky-ed or something.
Summary of my first three days
1st Night. Sunday.
Flew in from Bogota on a long ass international travel, and started feeling queasy so had a long nap. When I was up and about in the evening and decided to go to Casia Rocio. However the cab driver was a woman, so I felt uneasy to tell her where to go and the only thing that came to mind was Centro and then Cafe Del Mar. Get there have 2 whiskey-cokes, keep checking out a table with 2 hot babes and just before closing time at midnight they wave me over. One speaks English the other doesn't. (I've got like 2% Spanish, and that's from my basic French and common culture, so it has been a handicap so far.) Play dumb but figure they've got to be pros, they suggest going to TuCandelaBar, and that definitely seals it. We get there, I get a bottle and have fun with both of them, dancing etc. So at the end of the bottle the main girl suggests partying with both of them. I was staying at a hotel so had to go to a nearby love motel, and had a threesome. So pretty good! 300K for each and 88K for bottle and 70K for hotel.
Day 2-
Jetlagged and / or dehydrated. Chug Gatorades, evening is a pass.
Day 3.
Walked around the beach, pretty crap really, did get hollered by a Tony. Got hustled by some crab leg dudes.
In the evening tried to go to an actual Colombian restaurant at Centro, but since some of the roads are closed for pedestrian access, the taxi couldn't take me all the way. Walked around and ended up and found my first non-working hotties there. 2 waitresses.
After that got a cab to Casa Rosario (Rocio) but got strongly encouraged by the cab driver to go to Pleyclub insead. So this fits in with the presumption of them getting good commission there. Got there and got shown in by an english speaking worker. It was a weird set-up, several garden tables and chairs and a row of like 15 chairs with the hotties sitting on them. Didn't know the action plan there, now I know you were just supposed to go them and either invite to table / action room. After 2 beers I went up to the dude and he took me to the girls and told me to pick. I had my eyes on an Emilia Clarke (from Game of Thrones) but some dude was on her so had to pick someone else, picked a short girl with a butt that stuck out. She was alright but probably was a mistake. 200K ST.
After that went to my newly found apartment (thanks to the apartment thread) showered and went towards LDV around 12. Before I went in I spotted a cute faced meaty beauty, talked to her, brought her over. That was fun. 200K ST.
Had a late start for dinner etc but nothing in between, meaning that I was walking back home and it was 11:10pm so decided to go to LDV and actually see the inside of it, and boy is it a strange place, but interesting.
Had a drink and then starting speaking to one short skinny girl dancing next to me, had some kinda English. Had a few more drinks, and agreed to leave for 400K for 4 hours but then she also said all night, so the TLN is what I would like to do in this trip, and she got me there. She was a little too chatty and a little annoying, and some ridiculously hot girls had arrived, so started doubting it but went with her anyway, figure some anger fuck would be nice. Got back home, danced, drank and fucked, it was really fun.
Then she wanted to snuggle and watch some shit on her phone, after a while I tried for round 2 and she was like no I'm tired and said something like even if it's for all night, guys can only fuck once, so that really confused me. I guess she taught I wanted the GFE experience!
I admit I'm young and dumb and naive, but all this in Colombia is new to me, so I figure live and learn. I live in Korea, so I figure my next trip is Phuket, to avoid some of this BS.
So my question, even if you get a girl all night, would I be able to do it however times I want? I mean it would probably be just twice but I would like the option. And what is the wording for this agreement, all night until breakfast / lunch?
Thanks
[QUOTE=DcPlaneGuy; 1479407]Hey man thanks alot, that is a great succinct explanation of the situation of here, should be sticky-ed or something.
Summary of my first three days
1st Night. Sunday.
Flew in from Bogota on a long ass international travel, and started feeling queasy so had a long nap. When I was up and about in the evening and decided to go to Casia Rocio. However the cab driver was a woman, so I felt uneasy to tell her where to go and the only thing that came to mind was Centro and then Cafe Del Mar. Get there have 2 whiskey-cokes, keep checking out a table with 2 hot babes and just before closing time at midnight they wave me over. One speaks English the other doesn't. (I've got like 2% Spanish, and that's from my basic French and common culture, so it has been a handicap so far.) Play dumb but figure they've got to be pros, they suggest going to TuCandelaBar, and that definitely seals it. We get there, I get a bottle and have fun with both of them, dancing etc. So at the end of the bottle the main girl suggests partying with both of them. I was staying at a hotel so had to go to a nearby love motel, and had a threesome. So pretty good! 300K for each and 88K for bottle and 70K for hotel...[/QUOTE]You paid 300mil pesos short time for each girl? Thats 600mil pesos altogether around $350 us dollars! For one fuky fuky thats a lot! This is why girls keep asking for a lot of money because they think they can get it from gringos. But that happens especially since your Spanish is limited to 2. TLN means Todas Las Noches (the whole night) and your supposed to be able to fuky fuky as much as you want the whole night bro not only one time! No exceptions. Pleyclub is the most expensive casa here but 200k ST isn't bad I think.
Late night 5:
All I took from this experience is to lose weight and try this threesome business again, and even then it'll probably never happen again. So good luck and all to you folk. I give up.
Apologies about previous post, one should not post at late night and while intoxicated. I was pissed off but more frustrated, of dealing with money grabbing working girls instead of cum guzzling working girls. I hadn't detailed too much of my first night threesome, which actually was one of the best nights of my life to avoid jinxing it, but it got jinxed anyway. So I tried to repeat the same feat last night, but they just screwed me over. Ah well, I'm going to have to be working overtime for the next few months anyway.
NIGHT 6 (Final Night in Cartagena):
Anyway I almost didn't go out but fought through it and went to Cafe Del Mar which had good civilian potential but the slight rain drove the people away. Decided to go to Isis Club (supposedly strip club) to see some boobies but apparently just like Rosario's (Rocio) House this place had a stripper pole but no dancing girls. Again just a place to drink with the working girls and take them home. Decided to skip it and go home, but on the way went to LDV and started just sitting at the benches. Sat a while to get individual girls but didn't happen, and even this one crazy old dude came by telling some preposterous stories, but surprisingly had decent English.
Decided I'd had enough listening to this guy and made a move on 2 girls sitting and chatting, sat with them, barely any English spoken, agreed on 150K each for ST and went home for a simple, easy threesome to cap my time here. I guess it helped that by this point I didn't care about anything happening.
So in summary, it was a decent trip, but it definitely helps to have Spanish here because you get hustled at every step.
[QUOTE=DcPlaneGuy; 1480200]Apologies about previous post, one should not post at late night and while intoxicated. I was pissed off but more frustrated, of dealing with money grabbing working girls instead of cum guzzling working girls. I hadn't detailed too much of my first night threesome, which actually was one of the best nights of my life to avoid jinxing it, but it got jinxed anyway. So I tried to repeat the same feat last night, but they just screwed me over. Ah well, I'm going to have to be working overtime for the next few months anyway.
NIGHT 6 (Final Night in Cartagena) :
Anyway I almost didn't go out but fought through it and went to Cafe Del Mar which had good civilian potential but the slight rain drove the people away. Decided to go to Isis Club (supposedly strip club) to see some boobies but apparently just like Rosario's (Rocio) House this place had a stripper pole but no dancing girls. Again just a place to drink with the working girls and take them home. Decided to skip it and go home, but on the way went to LDV and started just sitting at the benches. Sat a while to get individual girls but didn't happen, and even this one crazy old dude came by telling some preposterous stories, but surprisingly had decent English.
Decided I'd had enough listening to this guy and made a move on 2 girls sitting and chatting, sat with them, barely any English spoken, agreed on 150K each for ST and went home for a simple, easy threesome to cap my time here. I guess it helped that by this point I didn't care about anything happening.
So in summary, it was a decent trip, but it definitely helps to have Spanish here because you get hustled at every step.[/QUOTE]The old dude outside LDV with the stories: you met Nelson.
[quote=camaro1257; 1478072]i spent 7 days in cartagena in april and 5 days in cali in september, i have done a brief comparison of the 2 cities for your review:
currency:
the colombian peso cop fluctuates daily in comparison to us currency therefore there is no way to predict what the exchange rate will be in the future. in both cartagena and cali you will need to do commerce with cop, i recommend checking your bank exchange rate as well as considering atm fees for the amount of cop needed. you can also exchange us for cop at different locations on the ground in both cities the exchange rate varying from 1600cop-1 us to 1800-1us currently.
note: neither cartagena or cali is like sosua, dominican republic where you can have a level of trust of changing money on the street. under no circumstances would i change money on the street in either city.
lodging:
mirador laquito: (cartagena)
i had an excellent studio apartment for $60. 00 per night. the building is located in laquito. i didn't have a good view but i was more than satisfied for the price. there was a kitchen, dining bar, living room and decent size bedroom all in the same space. the internet was slow sometimes but overall it was pretty efficient. security was on point 24 hours a day. chicas had to sign in with cedula and the front door was always locked, you had to be buzzed in and out by security.
there was no room safe but the building did have a small pool available for the residents. the advantage to the mirador was the location was familiar to all the taxi drivers and there were atm's and restaurants close by within a 10 minute walk.
parceros townhouse: (cali)
the townhouse is located in barrio santa monica residencial which is a quiet neighborhood with several other townhouses on the street. the town house is on the 4th floor which is on the top floor of the building. there are 2 front balconies and 1 rear balcony all of which provide an excellent view. i enjoyed the breeze in the late evening. and there is no elevator so be prepared to exercise. the townhouse is a 2 story with a winding staircase and 2 bedrooms down stairs and 2 bedrooms upstairs. there is a kitchen living room and small den with a television. i was given a key to my room the townhouse and the main door downstairs. the master bedroom was $53. 00 per night which included breakfast. the wi-fi connection was excellent with great speed.
there is no doorman for security you are simply given keys to a double lock downstairs and a door key to the apartment and a separate door key to your room. there is no room safe and the building did not have a pool available for the residents. the advantage to parcero's townhouse is its location. you could do the majority of things you would like to do within a 15 minute radius.
neighborhoods:
laquito in cartagena. had more of a tourist feel with plenty of expensive hotels and restaurants. it was a mixed residential and tourist area with a plethora of apartment buildings. most everything you needed was within a 10 minute walking distance.
barrio santa monica residential in cali. was a very comfortable and safe residential neighborhood. barrio santa monica residential had more of a middleclass neighborhood feel with grocery stores, parks and a mall all within a 15 minute walking distance.
note: both areas were relatively safe and put me in the mind of recoleta, buenas aires, miraflores, lima and poblado, medellin. i walked around the areas during the day and well into the evening with no problems.
weather:
cartagena. the weather during my stay was generally hot and humid throughout since the city is at the mouth of the caribbean sea. it is not un-common to have 95 degree temperatures during the day and it cools down at night to about 75 degrees.
cali- the weather during my stay was quite pleasant, it was about 85 degrees during the day and 70 degrees at night. it was a dry heat with very little humidity so i didn't sweat that much. the early mornings and late evenings were very comfortable. the townhouse is situated at the foot of a hill so parcero would leave the windows open so we could get the breeze of the hill which was quite enjoyable.
transportation:
cartagena- walking was easy to most spots in laquito and boca grand which is the next neighborhood over. taxis to the old city were about $3. 00.
cali- walking was easy to most places in barrio santa monica residencial. all taxis have a meter that is set at the beginning of the trip, most of my trips were less than $3. 00. when i rode to the other side of town i spent around $13. 00. the buses are called mio and you have to buy a electronic debit card that is called a "gane" for $1. 50 and you recharge it at different locations throughout the city. each trip was. 85. the buses were modern clean and air-conditioned.
la comida:
cartagena. there were a variety according to taste but i enjoyed riquisimo's which was within walking distance of my apartment in laquito. the food was good but on the expensive side dishes for $20. 00 or more. there was something for everybody within walking distance. there are more than enough us fast food chains from mcdonalds to burger king because cartagena has more of a tourist flavor.
cali. if you are the type of person who travels to eat at burger king and kentucky fried chicken cali is not the place for you. cali provides an authentic latin american culinary experience. typical foods such as chicken, steak, beans & rice, soups and salads make the staple of the latin american diet. you can eat a hearty meal which includes soup, salad, meat, and 2 sides for between $3. 00. $7. 00 depending on the type of restaurant you are in.
casas de la citas cartagena.
i do not have the exact addresses of the below listed cartagena casas but if you give your taxista the name of the casa and the barrio he should be able to find it. some of these casa are called "the poor man's casas" and some as you can see not so much.
the pley club- location: barrio bosque:
the most expensive casa in cartagena apparently they pay a big tarifa to taxistas. the casa was dark and dingy inside with a bar dance floor and a few chairs. there were chicas sitting outside and a few inside. the average chica was about a 7, i was not impressed!
• 1 hour 300, 000cop ($158. 00)
los angeles. location: barrio brusseles:
this joint was scary as hell! security is there at the gate which is pad locked. security opens the gate and pad locks it behind you. you walk into a dark house where you can see little of anything what i could see of the chicas the average was a 6.
• 1 hour 150, 000cop ($79. 00)
chicas linda. barrio bomba del amparo:
chicas linda is next store to chicas rica. chicas linda is nice inside with a wide bar a dance floor and plenty of plastic white chairs to talk to the chicas. the club was well lighted and good for meeting the chicas. the average chica was about a 7. i swore i saw riahnna there she was soooooooooooo fyne it was ridiculous but she looked too mean!
• 30 minutes 100, 000cop ($53. 00)
empana. location :barrio los alpes:
it was very dark and there were about a half dozen women averaging about a 7 most of them looked board.
• 30 minutes 150, 000cop ($79. 00)
allondra- barrio los alpes:
this joint was off dah chain! there were so many fyne chicas in there is was ridiculous! the average chica was an 8 like real model types about a dozen were working.
• 30 minutes 70, 000cop. ($37. 00)
chicas rica- barrio bomba del amparo:
• 30 minutes 40, 000cop ($21. 00)
casas de la citas-cali.
cali has more casas than you can count and while there are some high end casas there are some excellent tarifas with chicas that rate 7-8 in many of them.
las calenas 2: cra 44 #5b. 79b tequndama.
i saw approximately a half dozen chicas which ranged from 6-8. most of them were glued to their cell phones which were plugged in the wall charging. i was turned off by their in-attentiveness.
• 1 hour: 90, 000cop ($47. 00)
nuts & bolts (tuercas why tornillos) : calle 17n #5n. 33.
i went to nuts & bolts which is behind a big metal non descript door. you press the button and security opens the door has you face the camera and pats you down. then you stand in the center of the hallway and a chica comes out and pats you down again this time checking your package. about 7 chicas came out none of them were less than a 7 and a couple were pushing 9. the set up here was totally different from calena 2 in that there was no music playing or bar where guys could sit around and talk. you pick the chica you want do the deed then hasta luego. before i left my chica said she had to call down stairs and i spoke with the mamasan who asked me how was my service and i said "esta bien" even though it was average. parcero later told me that nuts & bolts is one of the strictest casas in cali.
• 1 hour 65000cop ($34. 00)
jc: avenida segunda b norte 34n 55.
the walls were white brick and there were plastic chairs with a small wall fan in the seating area. the chicas presented themselves and all of 5 of them ranged from 7-8 i was impressed with the line up from such a crappy place but they weren't the friendliest group.
• 1 hour 100000cop ($52. 00)
kaliente calle: 25 norte #2 bis-47.
kaliente wasn't too caliente you walk into a non descript house sit down in the living room and 3 chicas came out and introduced themselves. the chicas ranged between 5-6 and none were very inviting. the increments are as follows:
• 1 hour 100000cop ($52. 00)
the mediterranean spa: calle 28 norte #4n-72.
this casa had a very nice atmosphere that looked like a spa with comfortable chairs and beautiful pictures of models on the walls. there were 4 chicas who introduced themselves. the chicas ranged between 5-6 and all seemed to be very pleasant and inviting.
• 1 hour 80000cop ($42. 00)
the deluxe club: calle 5 #65-25.
this casa was very nice inside set up like a club with chairs a dance floor and stripper pole. there were 6 chicas that introduced themselves. most were 6's but there was one that looked like a model who fell out of a magazine she was a 9. this joint was plastic surgery central and some of the women looked like they were ready to explode. the tarifas here were ridiculous in comparison to the other cali casa and not worth the expense imho.
• 1 hour 250-350cop ($131. 00- $184. 00)
la clinica dr amor: avenida 2n no 23n-23.
this casa was nice inside but it was obvious they were doing some renovations with unfinished paint on the walls. normally they pat you down but since i was with parcero i just got waived through. there is a big living room with several couches and you can be seated and wait for the chicas to come out and introduce themselves. i would rate most of the chicas between 7-8. there were about a dozen chicas present and maybe 1 or 2 were 9's. the tarifas are based on 3 different levels classic, vip and platinum and the chicas wear bands to indicate their status.
• 1 hour 90000cop ($47. 00)
la picina: next door to jc at avenida segunda b norte 34n 55.
although the talent pool fluctuates this was my favorite casa in cali because of the ambiance. the chicas hang outside and greet you as you walk in. there is a waiting area and a pool area where you sit and wait for the chicas to come out and introduce themselves. everyone i saw was decent ranging from 7-9 and they all seemed to be very pleasant. some casa girls it is obvious they don't want to be there but these girls had a very pleasant disposition.
• 1 hour 80000cop ($42. 00)
note: always remember that the casa business is a fluid in colombia, casas open and close frequently and the talent pool varies from one day to the next. one day a specific casa may be a gold mine and the next day it may be a salt mine. most casas have take out where you pay a fine and negotiate separately with the chica her tarifa.
other sex venues:
the only sex venues i visited in cali were the casas but in cartagena the sex venues for freelancers are more diverse for example:
la playa:
there are chulos on the beach that can get chicas for you expect to pay a minimum 150, 000 cop for this service and the chicas can range from 5-9 depending on the day of the week. many of the chicas that you see alone or in groups are available a little eye to eye contact and body language should be sufficient to let you know if you should move forward. you can keep your cost less between 100, 000. 150, 000 cop if she insist on more you have met a shark on the beach.
the old city at the clock tower:
activity starts at dark with chicas that range between 5-8. be careful because you will find transvestites and homosexuals in the same area. i wouldn't pay more than 100, 000 cop for any of the chicas in this area regardless as to how beautiful she was.
la dolce vida (ldv) :
the most popular freelance bar in cartagena and for that reason it is plastic surgery central, some of the chicas look like if you stick them with a pin they would pop. in addition you are likely to see the best colombia has to offer because colombianas come from all over the country to work this venue. tarifas range from 150, 000cop- 350, 000cop. personally i wouldn't pay any more than 200, 000cop regardless as to how beautiful she was. it has been reported that ldv had an 80, 000cop drink minimum which can be avoided simply by getting the chicas number and meeting her later.
electrika in the old city:
is a hole in the wall small after hours joint in cartagena that some chicas go to after ldv closes. the tarifas can range from 150, 000cp- 350, 000cop. you have leverage in this venue because it is at the end of the night and if a chica hasn't worked she is more open to negotiation i would stay between 150 – 200, 000cop. there is also a 80, 000cop drink minimum here that can be avoided by meeting the chica outside separately. if you leave with a chica you will be stopped and asked to any up.
la polica & danger:
always carry a copy of your passport with you because there is a police presence everywhere especially at night. there is no such thing as reasonable articulable suspicion or probable cause in colombia, be prepared!
cartagena. is a the primary tourist destination in colombia and for this reason it has a great police presence. there is a police station in the middle of laquito and road blocks abound especially at night. it is not uncommon to be stopped at a road block or by la policia riding motorcycles and be patted down. if i were you i would avoid party favors it could save you allot of grief. if you are stopped by the la policia you may notice an uncomfortable pause, this is the time were there may be an implicit expectation of a "multa." whether you pay this "multa" or not will depend on what you have been stopped for. if you have done nothing you can simply say "lo siento senor mil disculpes" or just speak in english. be wary of pushy street vendors who wave t-shirts and other objects in your face if you don't want it don't touch it! a simple "estoy bien" or "no gracias" will do.
cali- is not a tourist town so the law enforcement emphasis is different. i noticed just as many la policia en cali as in cartagena but they seemed to be more polite imho. there is a police station in the center of barrio santa monica residential and while police vehicles abound throughout the city i noticed no road blocks during my stay. it not uncommon for the la polica to drive around at night with their red lights flashing therefore most times there will be no reason for alarm.
note:
it might sound obvious, but don't walk around flashing expensive cameras, jewelry, wads of money etc. places like beaches, outside banks and the area around the clock tower are favored pickpocket haunts.
the biggest concern that many people would have with cali is the reputation it shared with medellin in the 1980's-90's with the medellin- cali drug cartels. pablo escobar is dead and although the drug trade is still alive in colombia the government has made significant strides combating the problem. even the problems the government was having with guerillas and para-militaries in the country side has seriously been abated. it is not that there is no threat in colombia it's that the threat is minimal and not a significant reason not to travel to this beautiful country. cali is no utopia by any stretch of the imagination however it is possible to do well with the right strategy.
chicas:
the subject of the most beautiful women in the world can be debated into eternity but i prefer colombianas because of their ethnic diversity. both cities have their share of people of european, indian and african decent which makes for an incredible mix. colombians are truly a hybrid group of people.
observations:
• cali was different from cartagena because it is not a tourist town it lacked a beach and in general everything was less expensive. if there was a gringo tax it was hidden unlike cartagena where it is obvious you are getting gouged.
• you do not need fluent spanish in cali but it would be advisable to have basic spanish if you should decide to visit as there are not as many english speakers as in cartagena.
• since cartagena is a tourist city you will have to deal with touts. touts are people who are trying to get you to buy something from souvenirs to directing you to a casa de cita. touts are annoying as hell and you can simply respond by saying "no gracias."
• cartagena and cali have more casa de citas than you can count. in addition they open and close regularly and have varying ebb and flows throughout the course of the week with the weekends being the busiest time. i sense that the facebook, freelance and civilian chica market is very fertile here for a person who has the time to invest.
conclusion:
i have a personal fondness for cartagena because it was the first city i visited in colombia and i made acquaintances there, so i have ties to the city. in addition the old city at night in my opinion is one of the most beautiful cities in the western hemisphere. however, if i had to make a choice between the 2 cities i would choose cali for the below listed reasons:
• weather, cartagena is uncomfortably hot and humid and cali is hot during the day but absolutely beautiful at night except during the rainy season.
• the gringo tax, almost everything in cartagena is more expensive if you are a gringo. unless you have an inside connection be prepared to pay more. the chicas come from all over colombia for one reason and one reason alone "to get paid!" the same chica you get in cartagena can likely be had in her home town for half the price with a better attitude.
• although cali was a big city i found most of the people i met to be more than hospitable, more so than cartagena.
as in all things ymmv i encourage you to visit both cities and make an assessment for yourselves.[/quote]great find with allondra. i would like to nominate this as a report of distinction
Would someone please find the exact location and the rest of the info for these places?
[i][b]Barrio Los Alpes[/i][/b]-North of [b][I]Bomba Esso, El Amparo[/b][/i]
1. Allondra, ____. __ Chicas. Prices: 70k 30 min. Tel: ___. Hours: ____.
2. Empana, _____. 6+ Chicas. Prices: 150k 30 min. Tel: ___. Hours: ____.
This one also:
[b][i]Location ?[/b][/i]
1. Club Al Oadras, _____. __ Chicas. Prices: 200k 30 min. Tel: ____. Hours: _____.
[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt;1481046]Great find with allondra. I would like to nominate this as a report of distinction[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GucciJayda;1479676]You paid 300mil pesos short time for each girl? Thats 600mil pesos altogether around $350 us dollars! For one fuky fuky thats a lot! This is why girls keep asking for a lot of money because they think they can get it from gringos. But that happens especially since your Spanish is limited to 2. TLN means Todas Las Noches (the whole night) and your supposed to be able to fuky fuky as much as you want the whole night bro not only one time! No exceptions. Pleyclub is the most expensive casa here but 200k ST isn't bad I think.[/QUOTE]That's true its really expensive and besides there are plenty of girls right there with cheap prices but quality performance. These girls take advantage on tourists.
[QUOTE=DcPlaneGuy; 1479412]Then she wanted to snuggle and watch some shit on her phone, after a while I tried for round 2 and she was like no I'm tired and said something like even if it's for all night, guys can only fuck once, so that really confused me. I guess she taught I wanted the GFE experience!
I admit I'm young and dumb and naive, but all this in Colombia is new to me, so I figure live and learn. I live in Korea, so I figure my next trip is Phuket, to avoid some of this BS.
So my question, even if you get a girl all night, would I be able to do it however times I want? I mean it would probably be just twice but I would like the option. And what is the wording for this agreement, all night until breakfast / lunch?
Thanks[/QUOTE]That girl was wrong wrong wrong, and she would have tried that shit with anybody it wasn't just because you, or because she thought you were dumb or naive the second she said no, I would have offered her 150 mil and asked her to leave, or stay and have sex all night for the price agreed, or offered the 150 mil and told her I was going to Electra to find a real woman. She agreed to all night then she agreed to sex all night. It is hard to know what is right and what is not right, and you should agree on even the details before you agree to go with the girl just because these individual women will try this shit!
You mentioned Phuket, which is great, YOU WILL LOVE IT, I was in Patong Beach, Bangla Road (Heaven on Earth but the chics with nice tits are hard to find) , and I had sort of a bad experience with a girl, she was soooo fucking gorgeous and had a body more like a colombiana than a thai, but first she had to eat, so I took her someplace to eat, that when we got to my apartment she wanted to play on facebook for an hour to "catch up" becuase she didn't own a computer, and than of course all Thais shower before and after sex, which is fine of course, but from the time I picked this little honey up from Bangal Road, and got to see her naked was like two and half hours, the upside was that she did stay all night, and I hit it in the morning. The only down side to me about Thailand is that i do not like the ultra skinny woman with the small breast thing, but there are some exceptions, I found a few. The prices and variety are outrageously better than Cartagena. But I love Cartagena and live a 20 hour $2000 dollar plane ride from Thailand.
[QUOTE=GucciJayda;1479676]. especially since your Spanish is limited to 2. TLN means Todas Las Noches (the whole night) .[/QUOTE]Well almost, TLN means 'Toda la noche' (kill the s's) LOL, otherwise you'd be referring to every night.
Have fun!