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[QUOTE=X Man;1329985]CS, you're joking again, right? I never know with you. The way I read her post is that she never met the guy.[/QUOTE]I agree X Man. It seemed to me that she never actually met him in person. If she did then I agree with CS.
I actually don't have much sympathy for women who confess on line that "I love you so much" after a few chats and never having met.
For heaven's sake! What exactly do they mean by love? (rhetorical question. Please don't answer)
I have had to counsel the daughter of a friend who was heartbroken because her American "boyfriend" (read chatmate who had never been here) suddenly stopped chatting with her online. The girl was a gibbering mess because she imagined that this guy was going to come here and meet her and carry her off to a life of bliss in a land of milk and honey and then he just simply stopped chatting.
For every conniving and scheming woman on chat sites there are 2 others who are innocent and naive and easily mislead. It is good if you can work out which one is which fairly soon after you meet her online.
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[QUOTE=X Man;1329985]CS, you're joking again, right? I never know with you. The way I read her post is that she never met the guy.[/QUOTE]Guess everyone is entitled to a 'big softie' day. Best return to being...what was it again...a 'cold hearted wanker'..lol.
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1329994]I agree X Man. It seemed to me that she never actually met him in person. If she did then I agree with CS.
I actually don't have much sympathy for women who confess on line that "I love you so much" after a few chats and never having met.
For heaven's sake! What exactly do they mean by love? (rhetorical question. Please don't answer)
I have had to counsel the daughter of a friend who was heartbroken because her American "boyfriend" (read chatmate who had never been here) suddenly stopped chatting with her online. The girl was a gibbering mess because she imagined that this guy was going to come here and meet her and carry her off to a life of bliss in a land of milk and honey and then he just simply stopped chatting.
For every conniving and scheming woman on chat sites there are 2 others who are innocent and naive and easily mislead. It is good if you can work out which one is which fairly soon after you meet her online.[/QUOTE]Simple answer is most men chat with several girls at the same time. Guilty! Confess!
As we travel to Phi we have 21 days or less. Cannot meet all the girls irrespective of how many wants. There are other issues as well with regard to meeting place, sexual activity etc. Some girls want to meet along with their friends and family. In my case I will never meet anybody unless alone preferable in my room.
Many girls especially young ones having never been with a foreigner thinks that if a foreign guy shows interest in her it means a jackpot to her and her family. A girl I am going to meet wants to take me to meet her family and parade around because there is fiesta in her barangay. Do not know what experience it will be. I am still deciding.
When they say " I love you " it is not true all the time. It simply means she has cast the first line of fishing into the guys mind. Heartbroken on chatting? Even if they are they will get over it quickly.
Every man has lied to to every woman to get into her pants. Once there promising a life with blissfull happiness is not good. Better to tell straightaway you are a monger and cannot settle with one girl. Unless she is a virgin she has experienced this atleast one time maybe many times.
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[QUOTE=Sammon; 1330061]A girl I am going to meet wants to take me to meet her family and parade around because there is fiesta in her barangay. Do not know what experience it will be. I am still deciding.[/QUOTE]Probably means IMHO (and somewhat cynical opinion) that you may end up paying for the fiesta or a good part of it. As a good mate did a while ago when he visited the family and 27 relatives all turned up for a feed and drink. And of course he was paraded around. He just got totally pissed to forget what the bill was LOL.
The issue is when you 'dump' her and she loses face in the community which is a big thing and all the chismis (gossip) starts. The westerner is not there to see the real nasty way family turn on each other (I am aware of it from experience but not from 'dumping' a girl) and the cutie gets very upset etc.
But enjoy the fiesta Sammon, it is fun but be prepared to have deep pockets as it could happen that you pay for alarge chunk.
As an alternative, ask her bring her parents to a restaurant in town (eg TGIFs or something similar) and meet them there, just the parents. Maybe a way out of a possibly awkward (and relatively expensive) situation
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Example
This is an example of why you only want to get on the websites a couple of weeks before coming:
Hi ...,
Nice meeting you, I think this is the last email that I will send you. I'm bored w / our conversation.
Regards,
JTX Agent.
SPi CRM.
She seemed like a pretty decent chick. One problem though is that she didn't have access to messenger so all of our communication was through emails, which pretty much sux because I'm not about writing long one-sided emails, especially to someone I haven't met. She had sense enough to call it off first, but of course I will send her an "I'm arriving" email a couple of days before I am in country.
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[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1330157]. .
The issue is when you 'dump' her and she loses face in the community which is a big thing and all the chismis (gossip) starts. The westerner is not there to see the real nasty way family turn on each other[/QUOTE]This is the key issue as identified by WR.
If you are not seriously looking for a permanent partner then don't go through with it as she will be the one to suffer when you just disappear.
All "fiestas" are the same, except that the small town barangay ones are very "in-house" and involve simply consuming food and drink that few families can afford but they try to cater for visitors to save "face".
WR is right. You will be made to feel that you have to contribute.
If you have never experienced a fiesta just schedule a visit to attend Sinulog in Cebu or Masskara in Bacolod or Sandugo in Bohol or Kidayawan in Davao etc which are all major events. The local barangay ones are pathetically small and terribly boring.
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt; 1329894]The old, cold, hard ticker went momentarily into defrost mode when I read this profile. If it was a ISG member who misused this pretty girl, shame on you.
It is amazing that not more of these girls don't become teflon coated the way they are treated by Pinoys and foreigners.[/QUOTE]Also I am always aghast by these men / women who wait to have 5 kids to discover that they should divorce, it's hard enough for a woman (and somewhat less for a man, but still) to have 1 kid. But 5. My record (former co-worker) is 7 before divorce, there was also this colleague who spent his time telling us how much he hated his wife, crazy, deranged, despicable etc and yet every other year was adding 1 more to his collection, divorced when he reached 5.
The innate urge to reproduce I guess (which is alive and well in the Phils) , nature taking its course.
In the case of this Pinay it's probably just as well since with the alimony and the child suport the foreigner may not have had much money left to support her (assuming he was sincere but of course he was not).
But of course fathers having large families and who still stray with fresh young things is also a very Filipino thing, but I still wonder what's going on in the girls' minds.
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1329848]This Cebuana has got to be having a laff with her DIA profile pic although I shouldn't be overly surprised if she was serious.[/QUOTE]Ladyboy having undergone a particularly disastrous course of treatment?
More likely a morena girl trying through picture processing software trying to whiten her skin and doing it very badly.
Or getting ready for Halloween a little early?
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Why would you think that is written by an Asian person? I think her foreign bf helped her out on this one.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1330159]This is an example of why you only want to get on the websites a couple of weeks before coming:
Hi,
Nice meeting you, I think this is the last email that I will send you. I'm bored w / our conversation.
Regards,
JTX Agent.
SPi CRM.
She seemed like a pretty decent chick. One problem though is that she didn't have access to messenger so all of our communication was through emails, which pretty much sux because I'm not about writing long one-sided emails, especially to someone I haven't met. She had sense enough to call it off first, but of course I will send her an "I'm arriving" email a couple of days before I am in country.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1330246]This is the key issue as identified by WR.
If you are not seriously looking for a permanent partner then don't go through with it as she will be the one to suffer when you just disappear.
All "fiestas" are the same, except that the small town barangay ones are very "in-house" and involve simply consuming food and drink that few families can afford but they try to cater for visitors to save "face".
WR is right. You will be made to feel that you have to contribute.
If you have never experienced a fiesta just schedule a visit to attend Sinulog in Cebu or Masskara in Bacolod or Sandugo in Bohol or Kidayawan in Davao etc which are all major events. The local barangay ones are pathetically small and terribly boring.[/QUOTE]Have decided against going. I have seen many fiestas where there is a Church service followed by parade and rest of the time people are drinking and eating. As a foreigner it is boring. But for the local people this is one time they let loose and enjoy.
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1330246]This is the key issue as identified by WR.
If you are not seriously looking for a permanent partner then don't go through with it as she will be the one to suffer when you just disappear.[/QUOTE]Easier said than done especially when you are a newbie in search of the famous (and completely imaginary) GFE, and she is trying by all kinds of tricks to hook you and to load you with guilt and obligations (not all of them imaginary). A newbie and not a confirmed monger of course. They seduce as much as you seduce them (or so you think).
Having you visit her parents is the ultimate "deception".
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Reverse Scam
DIA beauty queen tried to scam me for 3000p for jeepney.
Fare from Toledo to Cebu. It's 300p roundtrip. Her profile is.
(jilivie). I told her ok and I would western union it to her LOL.
I actually had to explain that I scammed her. Then she went ballistic and
Cussed like a sailor plus 44 txts. Lost face with her barkada. Not nice 18 yr. Old anymore.
We should start a scammer forum and share their "tools" of deception.
It was a pleasure to "scam back".
Actually the "prostis" are more honest.
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Not enough info.
What do you mean? She traveled and you didn't pay? Are you sure it wasn't a typo of one extra zero? Do you think this helps the next guy who comes along? I find this kind of behavior offensive. But maybe I / we don't know the whole story. I would hope cheapy can explain himself. Duh, with a name like cheapy, I guess I shouldn't expect too much. As for the vitrol, why don't you share it with us? X.
[QUOTE=Cheapy; 1330640]DIA beauty queen tried to scam me for 3000p for jeepney.
Fare from Toledo to Cebu. It's 300p roundtrip. Her profile is.
(jilivie). I told her ok and I would western union it to her LOL.
I actually had to explain that I scammed her. Then she went ballistic and
Cussed like a sailor plus 44 txts. Lost face with her barkada. Not nice 18 yr. Old anymore.
We should start a scammer forum and share their "tools" of deception.
It was a pleasure to "scam back".
Actually the "prostis" are more honest.[/QUOTE]
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Beggers and scammers
I think there is a website for beggers and scammers.
Some play the role as a baiter and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off the scammer or scam the scammer and report their findings. You can also ask questions.
I think it is called dragonlady. Com.
Personally I do not want to send the time doing this but they are interesting to read and many dia ladies are on there.
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[QUOTE=Cheapy;1330640]We should start a scammer forum and share their "tools" of deception.[/QUOTE]Already exist at dragon ladies dot org.