Seeking Arrangements

[QUOTE=TheCane;2961358]Beyutch thought I was going to give her rusty ass $300 just to show up and meet and greet and eat and drink and be merry on my dime at the same time. I don't pay out allowance-level money the very first time I meet somebody who I don't even know and may not like. That's just throwing money away. She's now out while I set meetings up with much younger and much hotter "snowbunnies". Like somebody just said. Seeking is mostly a waste of your time. At least it's not an efficient use of time as you seek the right one for you.[/QUOTE]One reason I always start off with sex. If they aren't willing to meet in the bed room first, then they shouldn't be on Seeking, or pretty much any "dating" website with the possible exception of eHaromny or the like.

[QUOTE=HumbleHal;2961349]Try SugarDaddyMeet its much cheaper and about the same, and they do not kick you off for negotiating price on the site.[/QUOTE]Yeah but how's the database? Are there a lot of girls who will join Seeking but not SDM?

[QUOTE=VanessasClient;2961482]One reason I always start off with sex. If they aren't willing to meet in the bed room first, then they shouldn't be on Seeking, or pretty much any "dating" website with the possible exception of eHaromny or the like.[/QUOTE]Yeah, women who expect to show up and be paid just to meet and greet are on the wrong site. They aren't seeking an arrangement. They're seeking free money! And guys who pay out like that are suckers! Unfortunately, I can't start off with sex. I'm really, really picky! I have to meet somebody in person first to see if I really am attracted to them. I don't try to fuck somebody I'm not attracted to. And I'm not confident I'm truly attracted unless and until I see someone in person. This is a key reason I don't deal with escort agencies with all their bait and switch tactics. So still looking for the one. Like I said, I've got some real prospects one hell of a lot younger and hotter than her. Her loss and not mine!

[QUOTE=TheCane;2961584]Yeah, women who expect to show up and be paid just to meet and greet are on the wrong site. They aren't seeking an arrangement. They're seeking free money! And guys who pay out like that are suckers! Unfortunately, I can't start off with sex. I'm really, really picky! I have to meet somebody in person first to see if I really am attracted to them. I don't try to fuck somebody I'm not attracted to. And I'm not confident I'm truly attracted unless and until I see someone in person. This is a key reason I don't deal with escort agencies with all their bait and switch tactics. So still looking for the one. Like I said, I've got some real prospects one hell of a lot younger and hotter than her. Her loss and not mine![/QUOTE]Yeah I am same. I don't want to just meet at the hotel and fuck. I will in a pinch but def not my preference. I want a real date with dinner and wine and laughter (or bare minimum a drink). But then I def want sex that first night while the momentum and attraction are there. I haven't done the date then sex the next time thing much at all and have had a few fails that way. Always take it to the bedroom while the iron is hot!

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2961620]But then I def want sex that first night while the momentum and attraction are there. I haven't done the date then sex the next time thing much at all and have had a few fails that way. Always take it to the bedroom while the iron is hot![/QUOTE]Not all girls are experienced players and some of the 19 and 20 year olds do not even kiss on the first date, which is a bad sign. Nor are all of them hot, either. Some are iffy. Some want too much money for their sex. So sometimes its better to go home and think about it, maybe the next day they will come down in their price. There are always better ones there unless she is a 10/10/10 in face, body and attitude.

Its like fishing, not all are worth taking home, some have to be thrown back because they are overvalued in their own mind, and not worth it for one reason or another.

Lately I have come across many who are heavier and larger than their photos, and they think they are worth top dollar. I have even rejected a few at the restaurant door, saying "I prefer slim and you are too large, sorry. " Then I walk away.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2961620]Yeah I am same. I don't want to just meet at the hotel and fuck. I will in a pinch but def not my preference. I want a real date with dinner and wine and laughter (or bare minimum a drink). But then I def want sex that first night while the momentum and attraction are there. I haven't done the date then sex the next time thing much at all and have had a few fails that way. Always take it to the bedroom while the iron is hot![/QUOTE]If it's a matter of looks, I would agree. But I've found most women aren't willing to do that (ie pay me cash in exchange for dinner; my response: FUCK OFF! If she is pretty, she'd have to be a total moron for the sex not to work. I've only encountered a few of those in my lifetime. But, I have had more than several instances of shitty services. Rushed, no kissing, poor attitude, etc. I'm not 100% sure that would change if I had dinner with them first, but maybe.

[QUOTE=VanessasClient;2961679]If it's a matter of looks, I would agree. But I've found most women aren't willing to do that (ie pay me cash in exchange for dinner; my response: FUCK OFF! If she is pretty, she'd have to be a total moron for the sex not to work. I've only encountered a few of those in my lifetime. But, I have had more than several instances of shitty services. Rushed, no kissing, poor attitude, etc. I'm not 100% sure that would change if I had dinner with them first, but maybe.[/QUOTE]Maybe we are looking for different things or vet them differently. I'm looking for a regular girl who is trying this out for extra cash. Waitress. Customer service. Admin. Clothing store clerk. Pretty girls. Nice girls. A girl I want to make my "girlfriend" in a given city. Someone I enjoy spending time w outside the bedroom. These girls often end up being much cheaper too because they aren't straight up hourly pros.

I should note also that such girls disappear fast. They are only on for a few weeks before some many douche bags scare them off. So u have to be constantly mining for gold.

Yeah, makes sense. Dropping the idea.

Thanks for putting sense into my head.

[QUOTE=VanessasClient;2961249]Yeah but subscriptions to Seeking are expensive. Why blow the money when there's another ad posted with a 10 year age difference? Unless you think someone stole her pictures on tinder.[/QUOTE]

You are right. There's plenty of fish in the bowl.

I normally subscribe, fish, take contacts, play with those girls until I am bored and then, return to subscribe. Cycle repeat. In an average I spend 3 months a year on seeking with a subscription.

So, no point returning for this specific girl. Next time when I return, if she is still around, maybe I will hit her up.

If not on to the next fish.

[QUOTE=Indy69;2961298]I'd only go back on if you actually want to go back on. That means you're in the mood for a sugar baby in general, not this particular woman. I've learnt from experience not to attach any value to a girl from Seeking until she's earned it. Even then, I do so reluctantly!

The plain fact of the matter is, the vast majority of interactions you have on Seeking are a waste of your time. By the time you filter through the scammers, the flakes, the ones who you meet and who you're not interested in, the ones you lije, but who drop you, you're into the 1/2 per hundred territory! The lesson being, always be ready to move on abd Never change your plans to chase or suit someone from Seeking.[/QUOTE]

What is it with advance payment and $80?

This figure keeps coming up. I need to find a babysitter. $80.

I need to find someone to take care of my grandad. $80.

I need gas and some commitment from you that you are real. $80.

Perhaps, it's high enough and yet is below 100 that scammers think guys will dole out?

[QUOTE=HumbleHal;2961654]Not all girls are experienced players and some of the 19 and 20 year olds do not even kiss on the first date, which is a bad sign. Nor are all of them hot, either. Some are iffy. Some want too much money for their sex. So sometimes its better to go home and think about it, maybe the next day they will come down in their price. There are always better ones there unless she is a 10/10/10 in face, body and attitude.

Its like fishing, not all are worth taking home, some have to be thrown back because they are overvalued in their own mind, and not worth it for one reason or another.

Lately I have come across many who are heavier and larger than their photos, and they think they are worth top dollar. I have even rejected a few at the restaurant door, saying "I prefer slim and you are too large, sorry. " Then I walk away.[/QUOTE]Try Ruthless Hal hahaha!

Just had a seeking girl spew profanities at me for asking her if she had any kids. After repeatedly asking me why I would ask that, I told her straightforwardly, I don't like stretch marks on my women. She got really pissed after that and told me I should go find a prostitute. Am I the asshole here? Do women really think that having kids doesn't devalue them?

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2961729]Just had a seeking girl spew profanities at me for asking her if she had any kids. After repeatedly asking me why I would ask that, I told her straightforwardly, I don't like stretch marks on my women. She got really pissed after that and told me I should go find a prostitute. Am I the asshole here? Do women really think that having kids doesn't devalue them?[/QUOTE]Personal topic, and most women are protective of their kids. They don't want clients knowing about their families, nor discussing them, as it's "none of their business" and a potential safety issue. Also there is a stigma associated with being a single mom. I can't even count the number of profiles that list "prefer not to answer" on the line for "has kids".

[QUOTE=Gfefan;2961707]What is it with advance payment and $80?

This figure keeps coming up. I need to find a babysitter. $80.

I need to find someone to take care of my grandad. $80.

I need gas and some commitment from you that you are real. $80.

Perhaps, it's high enough and yet is below 100 that scammers think guys will dole out?[/QUOTE]Two things I can think of.

First, it could be a protocol that scammers are passing around the dark web. Maybe some psychological study shows that numbers at or below this amount don't arouse suspicion. Perhaps since it is not a round number, it stands out less, or makes the story more believable.

Secondly, it could be that over 80 triggers a red flag with the payment processors such as Venmo, etc. Or that under 80 most consumers lose disputes / chargebacks due to some obscure regulation about lower amounts.

Do you mean 80 US dollars?

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2961729]Just had a seeking girl spew profanities at me for asking her if she had any kids. After repeatedly asking me why I would ask that, I told her straightforwardly, I don't like stretch marks on my women. She got really pissed after that and told me I should go find a prostitute. Am I the asshole here? Do women really think that having kids doesn't devalue them?[/QUOTE]Probably she would be thinking you are a psychopath. Try to pick slim women, fatter they are more likely they have stretch marks. Most of the eastern Europe women are well maintained and stretch mark free even after couple of kids.