Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=JustinFields;2814897]This is for the most part great advice, that being said whenever YOU PAY for sex and I have paid the dynamics shift. They see you as a sugar daddy provider type and it it shard to get out of that zone. Don't get me wrong you can get out but usually NO. Not a bad thing for a guy who is 40 plus and sick of traditional dating but if you are under 40 and are paying that shows a lack of game. If my son or nephew ever said they were paying I wouldn't be too happy.

I never call the girls I bang has having game. Sure maybe you can talk to a girl in going bareback or a girl may hangout with you for 3 hours instead of one. But at the end of the day when you PAY I don't consider that game. I laugh when people talk about how they have game when they are paying LOL.[/QUOTE]Yea, the whole point is to come off as a BF and NOT a monger for free sex, even though we are mongers (giggity).

[QUOTE=Nounce;2814974]Some don't do it because the garbage that comes with it after having done it, like being found out lying.[/QUOTE]That's why it's best to be 100% honest with them. A few non-pro girls (I didn't report about them) I told I had a wife back home and kids. Two of them didn't want to be a side. One of them had a BF in Colombia so she was fine with it.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2814963]I think your classification of FB girls is all messed up. First of all, non pros are not p4 p, they are normal girls / civilians, who would go on a normal date with you and would be insulted / offended if you offer money. To score non pros, you have to have game, preferably good looks and ability to show her a good time.

Some posters here think FB is some sort of Klondike, where you find the hottest chicks for cheap. This is not the case. FB is just one of the platform one can utilize to score chicks, and like any other online platform, it got all types of chicas in different price brackets. The problem is that FB was not designed for mongering or hook up purposes, and the process of finding chicas, befriending them, weeding them out, etc is tedious and requires a shit ton of time and effort. Any idiot can make a fake FB profile and start messaging girls for free. The ones that are in high demand, with thousands of friends / followers are not easy to get their attention, simply because they can't keep up with them amount of messages and friend requests.[/QUOTE]This dude pretty much hit it on the head.

I just come to Medellin to have GFE sex with young attractive women for a reasonable price. There are no games being played and no pretense that it is anything else but sex for money at least on my part. But it is true on Facebook, that it is best to engage in some small talk before asking about money. There has been a lot of talk about game here but for most girls here, meeting and having sex with mongers, particularly mongers old enough to be their fathers or grandfathers (in my case), is about making money. It may be different for young fit handsome gringos but that is not my situation so I don't worry about it. This is for the old average looking gringos out there.

On a previous trip, I meet this 19 year old attractive girl on Facebook and she cancelled on me a few times but afterwards she apologized and said she really wanted to meet me. So on my last trip, I scheduled her again after she messaged me in the morning saying that she could see me today. This time she actually showed up and she was very good. Attractive, energetic and no rush attitude. 250 mil plus transport for a little over an hour, bareback. So on this trip, I scheduled her again and she showed up and put on another great performance. Like I said, no pretense that she likes me or is falling in love with me. Just coming over to make some money and make an old man happy.

On the previous trip two months ago, I had chatted with another girl with the same last name and I asked if they were related. She told me that they were cousins and she really wanted to see me. She knew that I had seen her cousin and it went well. But I did not have time on my last trip to see her. I told her I would see her on my next trip and I did. So, on my recent trip, I saw the cousin for the same 250 mil plus transport bareback deal and the cousin was just as attractive and the same age, 19. Once again the performance was very good. I debated in my mind which cousin was better but it was a draw.

Yes, the girls did propose a threesome together but I passed because threesomes tend not to work out the way I want.

Good sessions with the two cousins. I was happy and they were happy making money with me. Nothing more, nothing less. I am content with that. I don't need anything more.

My bad for mis categorizing the types of girls. It has been a while since the definitions were clearly discussed here so behalf of everybody that didn't know thank you. I've read over 100 pages here over the 8 or 9 months I've been planning this. There seems to be two routes here the routes for the older guys and a route for the younger guys. I'm 28 6 ft tall but I'm out of shape. Imma going to try a little bit of everything I've heard here and report what works best for me.

Quick aside to the guy that said he would be disappointed if his nephews where paying for it. Chances are they are already paying for it the dating pool in the US is kinda fucked up for my generation. With that said I can admit my game is rusty cause I'm not attracted to the western archetype of women, but it definitely works. I want game tips specifically to understand if there is a culture aspect I could be missing. I just think I'd be a fool to pass up the opportunity to not get some guaranteed action, with girls I find 8 9 and 10's while searching for some GFE type action or even a girlfriend. No amount of game is going to guarantee you sex as much as you want off the back like paying can. Not to mention I make 6 figures bro, 50 to 100 bucks to fuck ain't shit. Aside over.

I'm grateful for the tips on game and the knowledge that just paying in being nice can get there while family to like you. It seems family threesomes aren't uncommon on this bored. That's definitely a goal of mine on this trip. Starting next week be looking out for my exploits. I look forward to reading your critiques and future tips on improvement. Special shout out to downlow you were extremely helpful and I'm going to look into those resources your provided.

[QUOTE=DownLow123;2815076]That's why it's best to be 100% honest with them. ....[/QUOTE]There was just a discussion about this in the Seeking Arrangement thread that is why I use it as an example.

[QUOTE=MoonShot;2815099]I just come to Medellin to have GFE sex with young attractive women for a reasonable price. .... Nothing more, nothing less. I am content with that. I don't need anything more.[/QUOTE]It's YMMV. The majority of the girls hold back on service and may deliver only enough. I guess that is what others don't want. The interesting thing is BBFS happens not to be the one they are holding back often.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2815141]It's YMMV. The majority of the girls hold back on service and may deliver only enough. I guess that is what others don't want. The interesting thing is BBFS happens not to be the one they are holding back often.[/QUOTE]I'm in Medellin right now and I do only BBFS.

I think the one thing about finding a girl that really isn't in the business or not her main gig its more natural. I agree a regular won't be jaded, as these women are longer in this industry many become jaded and treat men the way they do. Women are made to constantly just keep hitting it their instinct is usually to find that mate. This is a different generation though, most are all about the money and social media. LOL. That's for the write up.

[QUOTE=MoonShot;2815099]I just come to Medellin to have GFE sex with young attractive women for a reasonable price. There are no games being played and no pretense that it is anything else but sex for money at least on my part. But it is true on Facebook, that it is best to engage in some small talk before asking about money. There has been a lot of talk about game here but for most girls here, meeting and having sex with mongers, particularly mongers old enough to be their fathers or grandfathers (in my case), is about making money. It may be different for young fit handsome gringos but that is not my situation so I don't worry about it. This is for the old average looking gringos out there.

On a previous trip, I meet this 19 year old attractive girl on Facebook and she cancelled on me a few times but afterwards she apologized and said she really wanted to meet me. So on my last trip, I scheduled her again after she messaged me in the morning saying that she could see me today. This time she actually showed up and she was very good. Attractive, energetic and no rush attitude. 250 mil plus transport for a little over an hour, bareback. So on this trip, I scheduled her again and she showed up and put on another great performance. Like I said, no pretense that she likes me or is falling in love with me. Just coming over to make some money and make an old man happy..[/QUOTE]

I've read back on some old posts regarding Facebook method. I have a few questions.

Semi-pros:

Beyond Facebook being what the girls in Medellin use for this, why do you use Facebook over things like instagram, tinder?

I used tinder a few years back in Cartagena / Medellin and the whole thing was effortless / instant. Is tinder much more full of scams these days? Is Facebook just a safer source?

GF:

I've looked around facebook briefly, on a dating Medellin group. And it seems a lot of the hot girl profiles might only be a few months old and are likely just their fake accounts for P4P. Is this what is usually expected on FB? Or are you guys finding plenty of real accounts and then chatting them up and testing waters on if they're just for the money or a more genuine girl?

[QUOTE=Shoman;2814896]Taking a trip for a few days with a FB girls I have seen before several times. We hit it off and she is an enthusiastic lover and I help her with her needs. Taking her away and will pay for everything. Curious what others have provided as a "regalo" on something like this.[/QUOTE]Are you planning to discuss a number up front or do it on the back end (less transactional)? The number she is happy with is going to depend on how much she wants this trip / likes you. Gauge it and adjust accordingly. To give you data, my friend took a 10/10 girl from a casa in Bogota with us to Cartagena for I think 3 nights. I believe 300 USD was the stated price with flights / expenses on top. She was definitely having fun with us (partying) before the agreement and knew we had a luxury place / vacation planned in cartagena. She wanted to come probably would have for free. She got the best treatment, yacht, dinners etc. It all went pear shaped when she saw the other girls we were bringing around were making more than her per hour. I guess she took their 4 hour hangout number and felt she was being underpaid. They had a disagreement, I think he had to give her 500 USD at the end including her flight back, which she never took as she wanted cash and not him to book it again, I saw her talking to guys in cartagena on her phone so guess she stayed to make some more $$. The problem here was she had other girls in her ear and she saw too much $$$ being spent on a luxury vacation and realized he was good for more. Best not to flash too much.

Anyway.

If this feels more like a sugar scenario and less transactional, I always advise this set up to any guy anywhere in the world with this. The key is to remain in control because these girls love to finesse you out of money / gifts. (not sure on how experienced you are).

Set a budget for her expenses for the entire trip (keep this to yourself, don't tell her). If she wants payment up front and asks for more than you'd expected, just spend on her less, go for a cheaper dinner, or don't do the fancy tour or buy the cheaper gift. If she doesn't bring up payment until end do it based on how pushy she was for gifts / dinners, if she was happy with a take out you can reward her a bit more as she didn't blow her budget. The good thing about this is it makes no difference to you, the end total cost is the same. It also works in that the ones who are a cheaper date are feeling relatively more rewarded than the ones who are expensive to hang out with.

[QUOTE=DrPistol;2815173]Are you planning to discuss a number up front or do it on the back end (less transactional)? The number she is happy with is going to depend on how much she wants this trip / likes you. Gauge it and adjust accordingly. To give you data, my friend took a 10/10 girl from a casa in Bogota with us to Cartagena for I think 3 nights. I believe 300 USD was the stated price with flights / expenses on top. She was definitely having fun with us (partying) before the agreement and knew we had a luxury place / vacation planned in cartagena. She wanted to come probably would have for free. She got the best treatment, yacht, dinners etc. It all went pear shaped when she saw the other girls we were bringing around were making more than her per hour. I guess she took their 4 hour hangout number and felt she was being underpaid. They had a disagreement, I think he had to give her 500 USD at the end including her flight back, which she never took as she wanted cash and not him to book it again, I saw her talking to guys in cartagena on her phone so guess she stayed to make some more $$. The problem here was she had other girls in her ear and she saw too much $$$ being spent on a luxury vacation and realized he was good for more. Best not to flash too much.

Anyway.

If this feels more like a sugar scenario and less transactional, I always advise this set up to any guy anywhere in the world with this. The key is to remain in control because these girls love to finesse you out of money / gifts. (not sure on how experienced you are).

Set a budget for her expenses for the entire trip (keep this to yourself, don't tell her). If she wants payment up front and asks for more than you'd expected, just spend on her less, go for a cheaper dinner, or don't do the fancy tour or buy the cheaper gift. If she doesn't bring up payment until end do it based on how pushy she was for gifts / dinners, if she was happy with a take out you can reward her a bit more as she didn't blow her budget. The good thing about this is it makes no difference to you, the end total cost is the same. It also works in that the ones who are a cheaper date are feeling relatively more rewarded than the ones who are expensive to hang out with.[/QUOTE]Taking a casa girl, or any WORKING girl for that matter, on a luxury trip is not a good idea. Especially bringing her to Cartagena from Bogota is like bringing your sand to the beach. What's the point? Did he expect GFE experience and loyalty for the duration of the trip? Clearly she would never go there for free, her goal was to milk the guy as much as possible, then stay there longer to milk others. Typical puta behavior. He needed to focus on semi pros instead, or even non pros, who would travel for free or for a reasonable gift.

[QUOTE=Gilolo;2815156]I'm in Medellin right now and I do only BBFS.[/QUOTE]We don't know what the quality of your FB girls is. But I would assume pretty much any average looking chica that normally charges 200-250 mil, would do BBFS for 500 mil (that's what you are paying based on your recent report). And yes, as Nounce said, it is also YMMV. Age, looks, hygiene, etc is important.

[QUOTE=Gilolo;2814925]I'm right now in Medellin and I meet only facebook girls! I practise only BBFS and CIP and I pay usually 500 mil and the girl stay with me all night.

I've a regular girl too I love a lot! I met all her family and her sister who is very sexy too. She's very jealous because she knows she has lot of money with me and many gifts. Yesterday we went to a burger colombian restaurant with all her family, and she told me she wants I stay with her all week. Her mum asked me the same to take care of her daughter all the week because she says I'm a very good guy with good manners. And I answered them that I love her too, but I don't want serious relationship because I live in Europe, and I don't come very often in Colombia and I told them that when I'm on holidays I like to try few girls even if it's not serious. I just say that I don't fuck in Europe and I need to have beautiful girls too. Not lot of girls but few sexy ladies who will fuck with me.

During the dinner, my girl went to the restrooms, and the mum asked me if I like her sister too who is 18. Of course, I said YES but I told her that I don't want make problems between the 2 sisters. And she told me that if she would love I stay with her 2 daugthers all the week. I was shoked on the moment. Then the sister came to sit next to me because her sister was still in the toilets. And she took my hand to her breasts and asked me if I like! Of course I like it and she kissed me. Then her sister come back from the toilets, and wasn't so surprised her sister sat next to me. She asked me if I want to fuck her sister she's ok, she's not jealous! But she told me I must pay her sister 500 too.

And her mum was OK too! Their mum just told me to be good man with them. Of course I'm a good guy.

But I told them I can't bring 2 girls in my hotel. And they directly proposed me to go to Motel Ibiza to make party during 6 hours with her and her sister too.

So we took a taxi till the motel ibiza. I was shy but the 2 sisters were happy. They started to kiss me together and we took a shower all together. The 2 sisters started to kiss each other and kissed me. It's really great! Then I started to fuck the sister inside the shower and her sister told me to not come inside her pussy because the day before I came inside the pussy of her sister.

And she told me she doesn't want the 2 sister take the risk to be prenant!

Finally it was great evning, we stayed 6 hours in the love motel, we fuck and we eat again because we can't order food there. There was jaccuzy too. The 2 sisters wanted to drink a lot too and finally we fuck in the shower, on the bed, in the jaccuzy. They were very happy. And I can say I came in their pussy many times during these 6 hours.[/QUOTE]Are the sisters look to meet anyone new.

[QUOTE=Gilolo;2814925]I'm right now in Medellin and I meet only facebook girls! I practise only BBFS and CIP and I pay usually 500 mil and the girl stay with me all night.
\.[/QUOTE]I hope you're cut man because it's not uncommon for these girls to try and get knocked up by a foreign guy. If that happens you're screwed because abortion is illegal in Colombia and per Catholic tradition all children are 'Gifts from God' and 'God's plan' (funny how so many become religious when pregnant, but not before). Just warning others out there as I've had 3-4 friends over the years who have had to pay a stiff price to get out of the situation and 1 guy is paying child support for a kid he never sees. That's why I prefer CIM LOL.