Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=DonMedellin;2816469]What's the deal with Colombian chicks and lollipops? For every girl in American with an iPhone, there is a chica sucking on a lollipop.[/QUOTE]Well if it's a hooker sucking on a lollipop and she's looking at you, she want's you to imagine her sucking on your dick.

The best question to ask a hooker sucking on a pop is whether she swallows.

Some women love guys coming in their mouth and than swallowing as strange as this may seem.

I've only had a few into this, and it's an experience not to be missed, especially if they suck out every last drop. LOL.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;2816532]Not to be a jerk, but you're honestly trying to track down one skanky 7. 5 (maybe) on this forum and think someone will have been with this girl? I wish you luck!

If you don't find her there are thousands of better looking prepagos in Medellin so don't be worried.[/QUOTE]I feel the same way. There is nothing special about that girl. She is attractive but similar to so many other girls in Medellin that you can easily meet. Also the way she acted, she seems very experienced and I think it is 50/50 that it would be a business like transaction.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;2816532]Not to be a jerk, but you're honestly trying to track down one skanky 7. 5 (maybe) on this forum and think someone will have been with this girl? I wish you luck!

If you don't find her there are thousands of better looking prepagos in Medellin so don't be worried.[/QUOTE]For real, Medellin isn't Sosua 1 can not simply fathom how many women there are available in the city.

I have never been to Gustos, however, I have used similar "methods" as you have in Moet. While I have been told as high as 300 USD (she was easily one of the most attractive women I have ever laid eyes on but I obviously passed), I have gotten very attractive women out of Moet for 250-300 k COP. My question: In your opinion, are the women in Gustos more attractive than those in Moet. I know attractive is a somewhat relative term, which is why I asked "in your opinion. " While I have regulars and get my women from a variety of places, I do enjoy flirting, a drink, and dancing from time to time.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2816412]LMAO If I could, I would. I don't have a method, nor do I have game. Tpp 10 or 20% is subjective, but yes I would say it's usually top 20% in my eyes. I don't have a special sauce to share other than what I've already said. On days I do Gustos, I don't arrive earlier than 10:30. And I don't know I've stayed later than 1:30. I do drink a bit. (Insert 10 at 2, 2 at 10 joke here) But I am extremely passive. I will almost always wait for the girl to approach me. Don't get me wrong, I don't settle. But simple eye contact and a smile will bring them over soon. I'm patient. And yes, I've lost out on "the one" more than once. That's the price I pay with my method. But I feel like them coming to me gives me at least a little leverage. I usually buy them 1 drink. 2 if I enjoy the banter. My spanish is sufficient to get by with basic conversation. I'm very chill. If there is a secret, that might be it. These girls are comfortable with me. I don't haggle with them. To me, it's counterproductive. I'm not going to ruin the mood over $20. If I don't like the price, I just say no thank you, that's more than I want to spend. I don't have a set price in mind. I go with the flow. I think everyone can understand that if I really enjoy the company of a girl, I'll spend more on her than one that needs to convince me. But I will say 600 k is my cap..[/QUOTE]

I met a Colombian girl online last year in September. I don't live in Colombia. We talked a lot and decided to meet up in Europe in December. We had a good time together and since then we've vacationed together 3 times and now I plan to visit her in Colombia. She comes from a poor background and worked for a year as an escort to make ends meet (she has a 5 year old daughter to take care of). She led a pretty crazy life the year before I met her (sex and drugs). However, when I met her she stopped and I've asked her several times if she misses it and she says it was very stressful and she doesn't miss it. I have been on the cautious side and looked for red flags all along because of all the scary stories you hear, but she seems genuine. However, lately she has suggested a few things that made my Spidey-Sense tingle. It could be that I am overreacting because she IS a freak (mildly perverted, openminded and wanting to explore and experiment). So that's why I am writing this post.

Here are some of the things she has said / done that I find weird:

1. She said she wanted to see me drunk to see how I behaved.

2. She said she wanted to take Tusi with me (which I point blank said no to).

3. On 2 of the vacations we went on abroad she suggested that we find an escort because she likes to have a woman eat her out while I fuck that woman. She wants to see me have sex with another woman and she wants to participate in the thing (trio).

4. She recently told me she was pregnant (we have had unprotected sex), but I know she has an implant in her arm that acts as a contraception. She then sends me a picture of the positive test, and as the natural skeptic that I am I do a reverse image search and see that the image was taken from a website and cropped. Why the hell would she do that? Lately she has said she might not be pregnant after all and she wasn't sure. Maybe she just wanted to see my reaction to see if I would leave her (she has insecurity issues for sure).

Long story short:

She wants to have a trio when I come to Colombia. She says I can find the woman we're going to have sex with or she can find one. She also says she has friends who might want to do it. I don't know how to go about this in the most safest and low-risk way if I choose to have a trio with her. Regardless of who finds the woman to participate in our trio, I am thinking that I'll tell her that the trio has to take place at a swinger club where we can book a room. There is no way in hell I am going to have some woman I don't know at all visit us in the airbnb I have rented.

I am hoping for some constructive feedback.

MDE has changed since the 3 years I have visited, but I am here to only say this:

NO you don't have to pay 200-350 USD for pussy in Colombia.

At todays rate.

100 USD =455 K pesos.

200 USD = 911,000 pesos.

250 USA =1,139,226 MILLION pesos.

300 USD-=1. 367 MILION pesos.

350 USD= 1. 6 MiLLION Pesos.

Ask them to quote you in PESOS not dollars, can we at least agree on that? Hopefully some will realize how ridiculous these prices are when they hear 1.3-2 Million pesos coming out of a Chicas mouth.

Gusto's -any of you tried to get their numbers and negotiate away from the club? Tried holding a convo with the Chica, even if you must use a translator app, get her to laugh, treat her with some respect, be firm -but not an ass. The hardcore ones may still reject you but I bet you some 9's that will agree to see you during the day for much less.

If you can fuck a 9/10 at Loutrons, la ISL for 300-480 K pesos, why would you consider paying more at Gustos? Go find a 10 at a top establishment, get her number and go from there. I am sure quite a few Chicas who got paid 300-350 USD were either bad fucks and / or left after one pop.

We are the ones paying -be willing to go home alone if you must, take back control of this market or in few years the most basic looking Chica will be asking for 500 USD.



PS theres no need to disparage a fellow monger, laughing at him or calling him a sucker if he wants to go to gustos, rather lets help and offer advice to each other. The Chicas have banded together to raise the price of pussy but we dont have to accept it, especially members of this board who should KNOW better.

Teach the newer members who come here to seek advice, even when they are too lazy to RTFF lol, have some patience and lets stop bickering.

[QUOTE=Mtndew704;2816632]If you are stepping into gustos for any reason, you are a sucker.[/QUOTE]And Mr Know It All, do you know why I go there at all and what I do pay?

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2816028]Guys like miamiboy1 and this guy appreciate the fact that they are getting cleaner, better, top notch women by paying $200 usd. The extra high price ensures that they are std free and smell like peaches and cream.[/QUOTE]Yes and its a safe place too so I can be relaxed and dance with the girls and then get them a few drinks and get their number for the next day meeting.

[QUOTE=MateoCast98;2816539]I would argue about 90% of the girls there are fat / unattractive. The other 10% is pretty good.[/QUOTE]Yes I am only talking about the top 10-15 percent of the gusto girls on any given night. They are attractive, smell good and have good breath and dance well.

[QUOTE=Carrib;2816687]MDE has changed since the 3 years I have visited, but I am here to only say this:

NO you don't have to pay 200-350 USD for pussy in Colombia.

At todays rate.

100 USD =455 K pesos.

200 USD = 911,000 pesos.

250 USA =1,139,226 MILLION pesos.

300 USD-=1. 367 MILION pesos.

350 USD= 1. 6 MiLLION Pesos.

Ask them to quote you in PESOS not dollars, can we at least agree on that? Hopefully some will realize how ridiculous these prices are when they hear 1.3-2 Million pesos coming out of a Chicas mouth.

Gusto's -any of you tried to get their numbers and negotiate away from the club? Tried holding a convo with the Chica, even if you must use a translator app, get her to laugh, treat her with some respect, be firm -but not an ass. The hardcore ones may still reject you but I bet you some 9's that will agree to see you during the day for much less.

If you can fuck a 9/10 at Loutrons, la ISL for 300-480 K pesos, why would you consider paying more at Gustos? Go find a 10 at a top establishment, get her number and go from there. I am sure quite a few Chicas who got paid 300-350 USD were either bad fucks and / or left after one pop.

We are the ones paying -be willing to go home alone if you must, take back control of this market or in few years the most basic looking Chica will be asking for 500 USD.



PS theres no need to disparage a fellow monger, laughing at him or calling him a sucker if he wants to go to gustos, rather lets help and offer advice to each other. The Chicas have banded together to raise the price of pussy but we dont have to accept it, especially members of this board who should KNOW better.

Teach the newer members who come here to seek advice, even when they are too lazy to RTFF lol, have some patience and lets stop bickering.[/QUOTE]PREACH!! This should be pinned or Sticked to the top. WE have the leverage not them. I'll tell you, if she starts off in dollars it usually a bad sign however what I like to do is always ask in Pesos FIRST!!

Don't give them anywhere to go be like "cuanto cuesta en colombiana pesos?

Let us band together as well! We should come up with a snazzy pricing chart. I can build one that we put how much you should be paying if anyone would like. Sort of like how we hav the map.

[QUOTE=BlueChange;2816722]PREACH!! This should be pinned or Sticked to the top. WE have the leverage not them. I'll tell you, if she starts off in dollars it usually a bad sign however what I like to do is always ask in Pesos FIRST!!

Don't give them anywhere to go be like "cuanto cuesta en colombiana pesos?

Let us band together as well! We should come up with a snazzy pricing chart. I can build one that we put how much you should be paying if anyone would like. Sort of like how we hav the map.[/QUOTE]Do you really think that if you ask to get quoted in pesos you are going to get like 50% off or something? These girls might be dumb but they do track the exchange rates (due to the fact that Gusto caters to foreigners) and will charge you accordingly. Also, how many of ISG members do frequent Gusto? Very very few. The majority of gustos clientele are weekend warriors who are not ISG members. They are not price sensitive and will gladly pay 200-300 usd simply because it is cheaper than back home, that's their logic. And gusto girls know that. This is why they barely negotiate, because there is always a gringo willing to pay premium. Most of us on ISG know gusto is a tourist trap and avoid it. Your suggestion to stick together is naive and won’t work. If nobody was willing to pay outrageous (by local standards) rates, these rates would go down because the girls would not have any business. Supply and demand.

[QUOTE=BlueChange;2816722]PREACH!! This should be pinned or Sticked to the top. WE have the leverage not them. I'll tell you, if she starts off in dollars it usually a bad sign however what I like to do is always ask in Pesos FIRST!!

Don't give them anywhere to go be like "cuanto cuesta en colombiana pesos?

Let us band together as well! We should come up with a snazzy pricing chart. I can build one that we put how much you should be paying if anyone would like. Sort of like how we hav the map.[/QUOTE]There is another angle of this, some believe if they overpay they will get better treatment but probably they will get much worse. Overpaying by vast margin makes you look like a weak stupid gringo and lowers respect for all other gringos. I believe if girl tries to charge you way over market place is a sign of disrespect and such offer should be declined or countered to fair market price. In Thailand when girl doesn't want to go with you she will give you ridiculous overinflated price. Its their polite way of saying no but westerns don't get this and take everything at face value. Imagine you sell 50 $ watches and some guy asks you how much. You decided to have fun and throw him 500 $ and dude takes it face value and pays you. Would you respect him because he overpaid or maybe he would be a forever joke among your friends. The fact you pay for sex doesn't change sexual dynamic and rules of economy. Just stick to fair market prices and if you want to reward girl give her a reasonable tip but afterwards.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2816736]Do you really think that if you ask to get quoted in pesos you are going to get like 50% off or something? These girls might be dumb but they do track the exchange rates (due to the fact that Gusto caters to foreigners) and will charge you accordingly. Also, how many of ISG members do frequent Gusto? Very, very few..[/QUOTE]Agree. I find it hilarious that in some FB groups and ISG pages guys preach that you should never pay more than 150 k or 200 k because that's what they paid 10 years ago when they first came and the girls are too stupid to follow the exchange rate. Straight up naive idiots (guys, not girls). The same guys will tell you that 'a girl is a girl,' none are worth more than 200 k ($42) and all will eventually accept that if you stick to your guns. To this I ask, if 'a car is a car,' why do people regularly pay more for a BMW than a Hyundai? Both will get you to the destination. I myself prefer the BMW.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;2816748]Agree. I find it hilarious that in some FB groups and ISG pages guys preach that you should never pay more than 150 k or 200 k because that's what they paid 10 years ago when they first came and the girls are too stupid to follow the exchange rate. Straight up naive idiots (guys, not girls). The same guys will tell you that 'a girl is a girl,' none are worth more than 200 k ($42) and all will eventually accept that if you stick to your guns. To this I ask, if 'a car is a car,' why do people regularly pay more for a BMW than a Hyundai? Both will get you to the destination. I myself prefer the BMW.[/QUOTE]It all comes down to this. Do I think she is worth her asking rate? Do I see any value in the transaction? If I go to Gusto, and see a true stunner, 10/10, hanging out by the bar, and then she approaches me with a sexy smile, we talk, drink, make out passionately, she rubs on my dick, and then she convinces me to take her home until the morning and says I can do everything I want to her, then yes, most likely, I will pay her rate, whatever that rate is. This is a hypothetical scenario, that never happened. But in reality, I don't see any 10's, nor 9's. Maybe a few 8's on a good day, and a bunch of 7's. I do not see any value in paying 200-300 USD to fuck a 7. If I wanted to fuck a 7, I could easily to it elsewhere for much cheaper. Also, I don't care about paying premium for "convenience" because I am not a weekend warrior and I can afford to pass on any girl and go home with blue balls, because I have plenty of time to fuck on a different day, I'm not desperate to get laid. This is why I rarely visit Gusto, and when I do, I'm not alone but with my buddies who want to check it out or have a drink.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;2816748]To this I ask, if 'a car is a car,' why do people regularly pay more for a BMW than a Hyundai? Both will get you to the destination. I myself prefer the BMW.[/QUOTE]But pretty soon that German car is going to look good sitting in the driveway due to exorbitant maintenance and pitfall costs, while that Korean joint is still getting you to your destination. I remember my brother could not even open the trunk of his BMW without buying a $400 battery from the stealership. You can run down to Walmart in the middle of the night to get a $90 battery for the Hyundai and put it in yourself in the parking lot. I check Consumer Reports for reliability and other things before I buy a car; same as I check ISG before running around haphazardly to a new mongering place. My sister also bought a Mercedes a few years back and I just shook my head. Right now it is sitting in the driveway rusting away while she is getting to where she needs to go in a VW Beetle.