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[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2817021]Apparently you can't get out of pussy is pussy mentality. You don't see any difference between a cheap ugly SW from El Centro and a classy high end dama de compania from El Poblado.[/QUOTE]And apparently you can't get simple analogies. No one made the strawman claim that you criticise.
Last minute trip and trying Facebook for the first time this time, I've only got 2 weeks so my set up will be limited.
So far I have a few positive conversations going on over the last week. The girls have not jumped at the suggestion of "mutually beneficial date" or the various ways I've tried to softly suggest p4 p. But they have remained curious and are asking for specifics. Which I am taking as a good sign as my preference is to have the old tinder experience before it became full of scams. So mainly semi-pros vs the pros. For that I'd just use a escort listing site or visit an establishment. One girl even thought I was her friend playing a trick on her LOL. I'm not sure if she's acting or not but it was funny.
Is this similar to what most people experience when talking with the girls on FB? I was wondering if I've hit the correct network of girls others seem to mention here and it being unique to Medellin. The reason I ask is so far this just feels like it would be in any other city. Messaging girls trying to convince them of a "sugar date" or whatever. In my experience many young hot girls anywhere in the world are open for that.
I'll also share here that you can search by anything on facebook like their job and then filter on city. So it doesn't have to just be by common girls names or via friends lists. I've seen girls with prepagos in their bio and it is searchable. It's interesting if that's what you're looking for but to me that's just a pro and why not use one of the listing sites than fiddle with facebook. But searching for jobs like dancer (in spanish) or modelo or whatever you are attracted to might help find what you're looking for. Again early days for me, just sharing what I've discovered.
In my previous post I mentioned I am doing some last minute facebooking for a last minute trip. I also have a fake instagram which was already following a bunch of Colombian girls in Medellin, mainly in the webcam / OF / IG Influencer type girls. I decided to mass message them since my FB is going to be limited.
The results are 35 messages in a week, 1 response. She politely declined a meeting of any kind. I didn't expect much from this but thought I'd run the experiment and share here. My theory is that these girls accounts are essentially a funnel to their online paid channels, and they're either not checking DMs / DMs are swamped with worldwide simps or very likely not even interested in p4 p since they make enough money online. I have another experiment I want to try which is trying to find these girls on escort sites via AI image searches, but it's going to be hard to know if they're a real ad or just stolen photos (I will share later the tools I plan to use as it can be good for doing background checks / scam checks, kind of like reverse image search).
While it would be awesome to get one of the hot girls I see on my social feed that I've fantasied over, my guess is that for these webcam / stripper looking types I'm sooner better off at Fase dos or lutron anyway and just accept that it's basically the same thing.
[QUOTE=JustTK;2817071]And apparently you can't get simple analogies. No one made the strawman claim that you criticise.[/QUOTE]MB thinks strata 6 women with money and passports are in need of his money / companionship.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2817021]Apparently you can't get out of pussy is pussy mentality. You don't see any difference between a cheap ugly SW from El Centro and a classy high end dama de compania from El Poblado.[/QUOTE]But your comparison is invalid. An attractive hooker in Centro though, and there are plenty, especially in the clubs and casas when dressed up and made up and transported to a club in El Poblado suddenly becomes "high end" and "classy," while virtually all these girls including the ones you chase are from Manrique, Aranjuez and the like. But guys like you always miss the point while you dig in and fight to the death here because you want to feel superior as well as good about the $ you are spending. That said do as you like. You don't have to justify it to anyone.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2816984]That is why I say nobody would be giving these chicks a bunch of money if they saw them where they are from and live. Who would walk into the ghetto or trailer park of their hometown and offer any chick $200? Take the chick where she is from and slap some clothes and makeup on her and parade her in front of a bunch of horny foreigners and all of a sudden she is Lady Godiva.
Same exact thing happens in Thailand. All those chicks come from rice or rubber farms same as the chick in the picture. The whole farm does not take in but $1200 per year. Throw her on a bus to Bangkok or Pattaya and put a skimpy dress and makeup on her and put her under some flashing colored lights and to all the foreigners she is now worth $100 or more for short time. Guys talking about she is worth this amount or she knows her worth. Like Eddie Murphy said, she was butt naked on a zebra 2 weeks ago. You told her she was worth that. She damn sure was not worth that where she came from.[/QUOTE]I agree man. These "Johns" have no real business sense. It's almost ridicules. In short stop over paying for something that is abundant! It is not that hard to comprehend, we got the dollars they need let every man please start acting like it. Por favor.
[QUOTE=JustTK;2816955]Where your car analogy collapses is this. MDE only has 1 car factory and it manufactures both BMW and Hyundai on the same production line using the same materials and production standards. Once assembled, the workers either stick a Hyundai sticker or more flashy BMW sticker on it... Then add a couple of zeros on the price.[/QUOTE]Not only you fail to understand the difference between girls, you also fail to realize the difference between BMW and Hyundai, or between any premium German car maker and mass market Korean car maker. Reliability issues aside, premium German cars give you much more comfort, better design, style, faster acceleration, and speed. You have to be blind to not notice the difference. Simply put, you are buying not only a car, but a luxury toy that gives you a shit ton of joy. Are German cars more expensive to buy and maintain? Sure they are. Just the way stunning girls are more expensive to maintain. But you get what you pay for. Both brands produce cars that will take you to your destination, virtually any woman that is up to your standards can make you climax. The difference is how you get there. And if you dont understand that, go ahead and use public transportation, and fuck you SW crack heads, more power to you.
PS. Why even discuss reliability issues? When you pay a girl for sex, you are essentially renting her body or buying her time. So to compare apples to apples, we should’t discuss renting vs purchasing. When you RENT a bmw, reliability issues are non of your concern, as well as maintenance and all other shit. You rent a premium car and you fucking enjoy it.
So this is my second trip, my first was just to Medellin. This time I landed first in Cartagena to do some Scuba diving off the island. (I travel to do and see things). So made my plans for my scuba trip as I was only in Cartagena from Friday to Sunday. Would have like to do a bike tour but I arrived too late on Friday and left too early on Sunday to do that. Landed and took about little over an hour to get thru immigration as that was a long line going back and forth. Was able to get an UBER from the airport to my airbab (unlike Medellin you have to do a taxi). Uber came quick as everyone was trying to taxi me up asking for $20 telling me it was so far away. I think my uber fare was like $5 or $6 usd. There was quite a bit of traffic in the city getting to my place. My airbnb was modern but 3 flights of stairs. Its was pretty cheap but lacking in some areas. I bring my firestick with me as I use a programmer with a build and I get everything on it so I travel with it. Well for some reason on their tv the firestick would recognize for a minute and then be gone. So no tv for me, no big deal I was out most of the time. My place was guest friendly (separate entrance from the main house to 2 different apartments) Air con fan wasn't strong enough (I like to sleep cold) bathrooms were super tiny but 2 of them as it was a 2 bedroom. No can / bottle opener, no paper towers but hey at only $55 a night I can't complain too much. I also used an ESIM thru Airalo which is only data unless you get on wifi then you can make calls thru what'sapp and maybe FaceTime. It's easy to use no physical card you different packages to choose from. I usually don't make phone calls just need data for google maps, translate, WhatsApp, facebook and so forth.
So first night I walked to clock tower which isn't far from where I stayed. Went to one of the roof top bars overlooking clock tower area. Was able to catch some of the NBA playoffs and watched from above. Walked around a bit and you can always tell where the clubs are as in front of them really packed. The police keep riding up on their motorcycle to keep moving ladies if they were just standing around the clock tower area. Had a few drinks enjoyed the sites and headed back to sleep as I had an early scuba diving day.
Scuba diving was good and a small fast boat with about 8 to 10. The diving was good but didn't see a lot of sea life compared to Thailand when I dive. Had fun and made it back to and headed to my airbnb. Rested a bit, relaxed and then headed out to a nice dinner. I went back to roof top bar to catch the Laker game. Had a few drinks as it was packed there, the waiter remembered me from the night before and all the seats were taken. He asked a guy sitting by himself at a table is I could sit with him. He was cool with it. Another american, I offered to buy him a drink for his gesture but he said it was ok. Chatted with him for a bit an he was off. I then headed down to walk around. Walked around quite a few girls smiling as I walked. I sat at a little small bar that had a small couch out front. It gave me a chance to watch the women come by. A short cute girl in regular clothes was with her friends and sat down and started grinding on me. She seemed cool, bought her a drink and her friends left. We went inside the bar for awhile and off to my airbnb. Unforgetable experience. She got a crappy attitude saying charging for multiple positions and yada yada. Then asking for a tip. I give her a small amount a uber'd her away, just to get her gone.
Woke up the next day and off the the airport I went. Started posting on FB on my flight to Medellin. Had a few girls on my list from before but seemed some weren't going to pan out. Got to Medellin and taxi'd to my airbnb Energy living (I stayed last time and really nice place with security, pool, gyn, good views and upper scale residence.) Started trying to hit some girls up. Got to see a girl from before.
Estefania Carmona, she came over but this time it was like she was bored and just not that great. I would pass on her. She is petite fun last time, kinda shy but just laid there this time. Funny these girls hit you up the day after wanting a date again. (I'm like to myself nahh).
Monday I'm lazing around get some coffee early my own I make and hit the gym upstairs. Start talking to a few ladies, a few from before went pro, one who is a civie I was really trying to meet up with but it never happened. I had some dinner but the ones I talked with either never got back to me as they probably got scheduled and I took too long to decide. Oh well, watched the new guardians of Galaxy and had rappi deliver.
I ended up hitting up a Casa my first time. It was ellas erotic?? Something like that. All the girls there looked good. I had a good experience but forgot the girls name stacey, alex, I forgot but she was really good and spoke a bit of english one of the better experiences.
Next day I had been messaging Laura cristina and planning to meet as she was going to take me around like a tour guide to Comuna. Well I get a message at home my upstairs bedroom flooded, ugh so I spent the first half of the day dealing with that texting and on the phone. The girl started giving me the business when they text you, become a bit needy and pushy at times. I understand they need money but I tell ladies if you keep irritating me while I"m busy I will just block you and there will be no date for sure. So she chilled a bit. (told her I was having issues and wasn't sure If we could meet up) Finally settled on a time and guess what I almost left the hotel as it was like 2 hours later with no response. As I was telling her I left hotel she literally texted me she was at my airbnb. The bad part is she didn't have a physical ID. They won't left people in with copies of just the I. The. So we took an uber to Comuna 13, it was like almost 7 pm and I told her I had dinner plans at 9. I really only planned just to use her for the tour and catch up with another girl. Her english was ok my spanish even less. We had a good time walking around Comuna 13 as no crowds as it was late. I got her some food and she said she uses a place called the LOV suites. So decided to take her up on it. It was 300 mil for the whole time with the tour and being with her. We got to the suites nice clean place, you could smell the bleach. LOL pron was on the tv. She is a petite girl and as were going at it she said 100 more for anal. I was like ok. LOL Did the deed and I uber'd her back to her place. I wanted dinner so was going to uber to Tony Romas but didn't realize her trip needed to be finished before I could use uber and her place was like 25 minutes away. So finally got a taxi to Tony romas rotating restaurant. I was starving at that point. Had dinner then back to my place to crash. I think she was also a see again girl. I would recommend.
I had a massage already scheduled the next morning before I left at 10-1130 as check out is at 12. Her name is Lexi and she does an erotinuru massage. I saw her last time and she remembered me. Had a good time and sent me off with a smile.
Inboxed a few guys about Cartagena and they mentioned FB isn't the way to go its seeking or tinder which I didn't use. Clock tower has a good amount of women but just way out in the open. I didn't go to the park in Medellin as some have said the women might not be there not sure about that. I also got a really good massage at Sports massage Medellin if you are looking for different types deep tissue, sports, cupping and so forth (used them last time also) RAppi works well and uber. Maybe head back at the end of the year. Next stop Philippines for diving.
Good day,
An excited first timer heading to Medellin this Tuesday at a local AirBnB in El Poblado. I've been searching for more details on casas around El Poblado, as I intend to make the pilgrimage to Gutsos to see what all the fuss is about, and take a long week to safely explore this option. With "casas" a common term, I get everything or nothing as I navigate the site. I'd thought to earn a whisker or two in El Centro, but I don't think I'm there out of the box just yet. Thanks and a tip of the hat to you all for providing the forum and info to make the trip a reality.
[QUOTE=Southerngent85;2817111]Good day,
An excited first timer heading to Medellin this Tuesday at a local AirBnB in El Poblado. I've been searching for more details on casas around El Poblado, as I intend to make the pilgrimage to Gutsos to see what all the fuss is about, and take a long week to safely explore this option. With "casas" a common term, I get everything or nothing as I navigate the site. I'd thought to earn a whisker or two in El Centro, but I don't think I'm there out of the box just yet. Thanks and a tip of the hat to you all for providing the forum and info to make the trip a reality.[/QUOTE]El Centro is worth a visit during the day. Lleras Parque is more of a late night destination.
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2817082]But your comparison is invalid. An attractive hooker in Centro though, and there are plenty, especially in the clubs and casas when dressed up and made up and transported to a club in El Poblado suddenly becomes "high end" and "classy," while virtually all these girls including the ones you chase are from Manrique, Aranjuez and the like. But guys like you always miss the point while you dig in and fight to the death here because you want to feel superior as well as good about the $ you are spending. That said do as you like. You don't have to justify it to anyone.[/QUOTE]While I agree that El Poblado specifically might be a bit of a stretch, but over the years I have meet plenty of girls from other decent neighborhoods. Envigado, Laureles, Itaqui, Sabaneta. In Bogota, I have met girls from Chapinero and Usaquen. Most of the girls from nicer neighborhoods that I have met don't sell pussy for living, but don't mind p4 p or companionship or tavel. On average, they are more intelligent, well travelled, well mannered and fun. Some do speak English. And overall, are much better company than your average dumb chick from Manrique or Aranjuez, who prefers, as other poster pointed out, to sit on a couch all day messaging her FB contacts, trying to find a sucker who pays the most. You guys fail to understand that "high end" and "classy" doesn't only mean looks, fancy clothes and makeup, but also the ability to hold a interesting or meaningful conversation (and for this, she needs to have some brains), the correct use of manners, confidence, sexual charisma, the ability to travel and maintain healthy lifestyle. This is what you pay premium for.
You can get the girl out of the ghetto, but the ghetto can't get out of the girl.
Heck, most of the barrio girls can't even dress properly for a date. They have absolutely no taste, no sense of style. Countless times I was embarrassed to be with them out in public, or embarrassed to bring them over to my place. Damn, If you know we are going out to dinner, put a fucking dress and heels on, doesn't have to be designer's dress or something, just a plain, basic cheap dress or a skirt. Instead, she shows up in a see through top, and thigh high over knee boots that literally screams "Hoe!" or some oversized baggy ripped jeans covered with crystals and shit, big ass sneakers and backpack. Seriously? Not to mention tattoos, which I don't mind here and there, but tatts on her face? Fists? Neck? That's so ghetto. Are you a fucking mafia or something? LOL. How about purple or green hair? 2 inch nails or 1 inch eyelashes? Or the makeup is so excessive that she looks like a female clown? Most do use drugs, smoke cigarettes and smell like ashtray, just disgusting. Even if a chick is naturally attractive, all of the above ruins my desire to fuck her.
[QUOTE=TheMan31;2817094]I agree man. These "Johns" have no real business sense. It's almost ridicules.[/QUOTE]If you do not like the price, then do not play the game.
[QUOTE=TheMan31;2817094]IIn short stop over paying for something that is abundant! It is not that hard to comprehend, we got the dollars they need let every man please start acting like it. Por favor.[/QUOTE]If guys are paying $200 for women who are midgets, pregnant, average looking, or cannot apply makeup, then yeah, guys need to stop paying that.
On the other hand, I met a seeking woman for a drink. She was smoking hot and wanted $140 for two hours, and we went at it bare three times. In fact, she was so fucking good I called her back and did her again.
Maybe I could have gotten her down some but I got the impression that she was low volume and that was the minimum she would take, and I did not want to risk negotiating.
And you are saying I paid too much and shouldn't have fucked her? I tell you what. Guys spend their money how they see fit and if you do not like the prices, use your hand.
Are you seriously telling guys what to do when some hottie is in front of them? LOL. Yeah, I am sure that is gong to work. / sarc.
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Finally met Sofia last week from* photoprepagos after communicating on WA. It was a pain in the ass because she takes to long to answer you back on WA or never gives you all the info one would think you would need to make an expedient* transaction instead of all the nonsense of going back and fourth of* her not giving necessary info. When I first text her she sends the generic post (like most of the girls on prepagos do) what she charges and a brief synopsis of what and why you should use her services. But she leaves out her hours and address. I was first interested in her because when you view the map section for her ad her address comes close to Botero plaza. Right at the corner of calle 52 and Avenida Oriental only a few blocks from Hotel Nutibara. So I message her last night and ask her for the hours she worked and she finally says she finishes at 8 pm. Then I thought ok maybe I'll visit her tomorrow so then of course I have to ask her when she starts and she says 11 am. I ask what the address was and she messaged "I am located in front of the quarto brigade cielo stadium medellin. I thought what Kind of address is that and its definitely not where it is according to her ad. So I put the address she provided me in google maps and sure enough it came up with a building. So I figured she would give me the apt number when I showed up. So I finally make it to the building. I then text her that I was outside her building. She text back "I'm glad your here" but you need an appointment my love. So I asked when is the soonest I could see her she said in 40 minutes. I text her "ok that's fine,* see you in 40 minutes" so I then walked around the area and realized spa Energy was right around the corner on calle 74. I figured great I'll kill some time seeing the line up at Energy. The girls were a mix of 5, 6's and 7's add or subtract depending on your taste. 30 mins later I looked at my phone and noticed she texted me another address. I thought what the hell is going on here. What is she playing at. Anyways at least it was close by in Laureles I guess. It was further up Calle 50 near Carrera 80. I finally get to the address. I went to the door and knocked and it was slightly opened. I heard a girls voice and went inside and there was like maybe 7 girls inside. They were raising their voice in Spanish and I believe they were saying "what are you doing in here you can't be here" Then I mentioned Sofia's name and they said ok (I guess she was getting ready). So they led me up to a room that had a red light on (you could barely see anything). So I looked for a light switch to see if there was a regular light where I could actually see what she look like once she came in the room. While I was standing in the doorway one of the girls was standing a few feet away so I pointed to the light and told I her that's not going to cut it I need a real light. Then the girls were raising their voices (I mean how dare I make such a request to see what I'm fucking, let alone say anything at all) and then Sofia comes out I guess to see what the ruckus was about and she was standing at the foot of the stair case naked. She did have big tits like in the pictures in her ad and it was quite errotic seeing her in the staircase naked with her tits shaking as she was bickering away with the other girls about our disagreement with the lighting. Anyways She said forget it and So I said fuck it and walk down the stairs and out the door. I wasn't going to screw her in a barely lit, dark red room. I didn't get an up close look at her but what I seen from around 25 ft away she had nice tits and a mole on the side of her face. She was definitely fuckable from what I seen but she didn't look as good as her photos. She had an attitude like most of the girls that were in there. She charged 150 k for an hour and then 350 k for out call service. 200 k extra for her to meet you at your place. What is she going to do about the lighting situation when she shows up to your place, bring the red bulb with her. Anyhow I decided to walked down to carrera 74 near the stadium to Energy, but then I started to think that I was all ready there and if I asked for another presentation they might tell me get lost since I didn't chose anyone a moment ago. So I decided I would return to Energy the following day and just visit the place right next door to it. I ended up choosing the same girl I had last trip there for 150 k. Good session I was finished in 15 min. Just when I though the session was done she asks me if I wanted a back massage. I agreed since I had almost 40 mins left. She went out the room and returned with a massage gun and I thought wow never had this treatment at a casa before. Anyways the massage lasted 20 min with her hands, massage gun and all. What a way to end a really good session. I wish all casa girls or sessions ended this way. I thought let me friend her on FB, because Im tired of all this other BS nonsense from the girls. I generally never did repeat performances through casa girls, but for quite a while I changed my mind on it because a lot of this is way more miss than hit and I rather get what I want from the same girl then going through tedious odds of all these different girls to get the service and treatment I want.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2817172]Heck, most of the barrio girls can't even dress properly for a date. They have absolutely no taste, no sense of style. Countless times I was embarrassed to be with them out in public, or embarrassed to bring them over to my place. Damn, If you know we are going out to dinner, put a fucking dress and heels on, doesn't have to be designer's dress or something, just a plain, basic cheap dress or a skirt. Instead, she shows up in a see through top, and thigh high over knee boots that literally screams "Hoe!" or some oversized baggy ripped jeans covered with crystals and shit, big ass sneakers and backpack. Seriously? Not to mention tattoos, which I don't mind here and there, but tatts on her face? Fists? Neck? That's so ghetto. Are you a fucking mafia or something? LOL. How about purple or green hair? 2 inch nails or 1 inch eyelashes? Or the makeup is so excessive that she looks like a female clown? Most do use drugs, smoke cigarettes and smell like ashtray, just disgusting. Even if a chick is naturally attractive, all of the above ruins my desire to fuck her.[/QUOTE]Oh no miamiboy, I didn't take you for the kind of guy to hang out with those type of chicks, that's a big no no for me, fortunately for me the girls I've taken out to dinner so far in medellin dressed really nice, and appropriate. No crazy tattoos either.
My girls all look cara, bitchy, classy, en cuatro fantastic lmao like the Feid song that's popular right now, bitches love that song.