Seeking Arrangements

[QUOTE=VanessasClient;2961737]Personal topic, and most women are protective of their kids. They don't want clients knowing about their families, nor discussing them, as it's "none of their business" and a potential safety issue. Also there is a stigma associated with being a single mom. I can't even count the number of profiles that list "prefer not to answer" on the line for "has kids".[/QUOTE]Oddly enough she claimed to not have any kids, but then continued to feel insulted about me asking.

Usually when they answer "Prefer not to answer" It means yes they have kids.

[QUOTE=DwayneJohnson;2961742]Probably she would be thinking you are a psychopath. Try to pick slim women, fatter they are more likely they have stretch marks. Most of the eastern Europe women are well maintained and stretch mark free even after couple of kids.[/QUOTE]All the women on seeking use filters to remove any sort of marks they have.

[QUOTE=Gfefan;2961707]What is it with advance payment and $80?
This figure keeps coming up. I need to find a babysitter. $80.
I need to find someone to take care of my grandad. $80.
I need gas and some commitment from you that you are real. $80.
Perhaps, it's high enough and yet is below 100 that scammers think guys will dole out?[/QUOTE]They are scammers, wanting you to send them money before you meet them, then they do not show up. Another popular request is their car is in the shop and not working so they need $$ to get it fixed to come to meet you at a restaurant. If you send money on Cashapp or elsewhere, then they do not show up. Sometimes I tell them I will give them $20 for gas at the restaurant where I meet them, but usually they are scamming me. Its a red flag that more fraud is coming, likely they are using 5 year old photos also, when they were slim, and when you meet them in person you will see they are fat.

I don't think you are an asshole for asking that but a lot depends on the context.

Context of first and foremost how you asked. It depends on what you both were discussing when you popped the question.

Secon, there is this culture element. Where is the lady from? I usually have seen European women open a out it VS. US women are cagey. Unless they need $ to babysit. LOL.

It also depends on what mood she was in. Perhaps, she was mad at something else at that time and you just happened to ask it at the wrong time.

So, don't feel bad about it. Next time, choose carefully when and how you ask.

There's plenty of fish out there. Put this lady behind you and move on.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2961729]Just had a seeking girl spew profanities at me for asking her if she had any kids. After repeatedly asking me why I would ask that, I told her straightforwardly, I don't like stretch marks on my women. She got really pissed after that and told me I should go find a prostitute. Am I the asshole here? Do women really think that having kids doesn't devalue them?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2961729]Just had a seeking girl spew profanities at me for asking her if she had any kids. After repeatedly asking me why I would ask that, I told her straightforwardly, I don't like stretch marks on my women. She got really pissed after that and told me I should go find a prostitute. Am I the asshole here? Do women really think that having kids doesn't devalue them?[/QUOTE]This is a really interesting topic. I also screen out girls with kids. For a few reasons. They tend to be looser down there. Unless they've had a see section but then they tend to have a visible unsightly scar. None of these reasons would be deal breakers except for the fact that there are so many girls on seeking that if it bothers me why even consider it.

Then there's the problem that single moms need child care. You don't really have their full attention. They can only stay so late because they're paying a sitter. Or their mind is elsewhere. I don't fault that of course. I just don't need to deal with it so why would I?

And of course women hate being told that having kids disqualifies them. Why wouldn't they? It's like telling a guy he's disqualified because he's bald or too short or whatever. It's insulting because it's something you can't change. But once again, it's your money so it's your choice.

The one thing I'll say however is I would never tell a woman that's why. It's just impolite. There are other ways to part ways with someone that leaves her feelings intact. Sometimes lying is the ethical thing to do.

[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2961903]
The one thing I'll say however is I would never tell a woman that's why. It's just impolite. There are other ways to part ways with someone that leaves her feelings intact. Sometimes lying is the ethical thing to do.[/QUOTE]That's a good way to put it. Once on seeking I had this great rapport and we exchanged pics and she said "I don't think I could get with anyone that old". Damn that stung. Would rather have a white lie or a ghosting!

In the end we became Penpals and I helped her with her med school application. You just never know where this world will lead us.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2961929]That's a good way to put it. Once on seeking I had this great rapport and we exchanged pics and she said "I don't think I could get with anyone that old". Damn that stung. Would rather have a white lie or a ghosting!

In the end we became Penpals and I helped her with her med school application. You just never know where this world will lead us.[/QUOTE]I once told a courtesan I wouldn't be able to make the appointment I scheduled rather far in advance. She got pissed as shit and snapped back at me. Looking back at it, it might have been better to block her. Not ideal either way; but remember, you don't owe these people anything.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2961729]Just had a seeking girl spew profanities at me for asking her if she had any kids. After repeatedly asking me why I would ask that, I told her straightforwardly, I don't like stretch marks on my women. She got really pissed after that and told me I should go find a prostitute. Am I the asshole here? Do women really think that having kids doesn't devalue them?[/QUOTE]If you are an asshole for caring how a woman looks, then we are all assholes.

The funny part is that it goes both ways. There was a female gorilla in a lab being shown videos of a potential mate. The first one was so ugly to her that she ran from the screen. With the second one, she was kissing the screen. Women are just better at hiding it than men are. I saw on a talk show once with this geek named Blayne. There was a hottie on the show and she was asked if she would date Blayne, and she said it was his name not what he looked like that she had an issue with. If Blayne were an adonis, I doubt the name would have stopped her.

The reality is you have a pool of women wanting to date you, and you have women in that pool you are attracted to. So when a woman says she should be in your attractive pool, that just tells me she is insecure. The mature response is "Oh, you do not like me. Thanks for being honest" and she goes on and looks for a guy who does not mind stretch marks. Instead of saying this one man does not like me, she is thinking all men do not like her which is a sign of immaturity.

I think the biggest mistake guys make is not focusing on their own pool and getting bogged down on those outside of it. Even when I worked my way into a woman's pool, the juice was never worth the squeeze.

I wonder if Seeking has "ringers" on the payroll just to try to get guys hooked on paying those high membership fees? I'm talking women (or could be a guy pretending) who have no intention of meeting you, and are just there to try to keep you as a paying member. I know other types of dating sites are guilty of this unethical practice, and even knew a girl who did that kind of work for a dating site once. Keep them hooked! I mean I was talking to somebody supposedly from a little town not too far from me, and we had some good conversation on the site. Then next thing I know, several days later her profile shows her in another little town all the way across the country! Definitely something fishy going on. Blocked! Also, beware if you drop your membership on any dating site, and then all of a sudden you start getting all of these messages you have to pay for to read. It's a scam! So don't fall for it.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2962111]I wonder if Seeking has "ringers" on the payroll just to try to get guys hooked on paying those high membership fees? I'm talking women (or could be a guy pretending) who have no intention of meeting you, and are just there to try to keep you as a paying member. I know other types of dating sites are guilty of this unethical practice, and even knew a girl who did that kind of work for a dating site once. Keep them hooked! I mean I was talking to somebody supposedly from a little town not too far from me, and we had some good conversation on the site. Then next thing I know, several days later her profile shows her in another little town all the way across the country! Definitely something fishy going on. Blocked! Also, beware if you drop your membership on any dating site, and then all of a sudden you start getting all of these messages you have to pay for to read. It's a scam! So don't fall for it.[/QUOTE]You mean live people are doing the communication instead of bots?

About 10 months ago, I met this chick via SA.

Slim, fit, blonde. Totally my type. We met for a few drinks, conversation flowed well. We discussed what each of us expect.

There were slight differences but nothing deal breaking. I walked with her after drinks and we had this tender moment of a deeply passionate kiss. And we parted ways. It was no expectations meet and greet anyway. But I walked with a bulge in pants after that kiss.

Few days later, she texted me that she was expecting around 600 to 800 per date and that I was offering half. I told her my upper limit and mentioned to her that 600 is a deal breaker. And, it kinda went cold.

But, she would text me once a while and just have random chats. Like just two friends checking in and neither of us mentioned $ or meet up.

Last week, I checked in on her because I know she had a rough few weeks. She responded that she is doing OK.

This morning, I woke up to text "hey, you got any plans for tonight? If not, maybe, we grab a drink and see where it goes?

I am headed for that drink. Excited. But holding my horse (s) back.

Will post back how this night goes.

[QUOTE=Gfefan;2962192]About 10 months ago, I met this chick via SA.

Slim, fit, blonde. Totally my type. We met for a few drinks, conversation flowed well. We discussed what each of us expect.

There were slight differences but nothing deal breaking. I walked with her after drinks and we had this tender moment of a deeply passionate kiss. And we parted ways. It was no expectations meet and greet anyway. But I walked with a bulge in pants after that kiss.

Few days later, she texted me that she was expecting around 600 to 800 per date and that I was offering half. I told her my upper limit and mentioned to her that 600 is a deal breaker. And, it kinda went cold.

But, she would text me once a while and just have random chats. Like just two friends checking in and neither of us mentioned $ or meet up.

Last week, I checked in on her because I know she had a rough few weeks. She responded that she is doing OK.

This morning, I woke up to text "hey, you got any plans for tonight? If not, maybe, we grab a drink and see where it goes?

I am headed for that drink. Excited. But holding my horse (s) back.

Will post back how this night goes.[/QUOTE]This is soooo exciting. Best of luck to you. Yeah girls circumstances change. Rents due. Broke up w BF whatever. You have to be constantly in touch because you never know when is the right time. Fingers crossed.

A wise man once explained it to me this way. Guys make decisions based on facts. And facts don't change. So guys decisions are consistent. Girls make decisions based on emotions. And emotions change. So other decisions. Suddenly the world made total sense! Plus their facts (situation) do change over time.

[QUOTE=Gfefan;2962192]About 10 months ago, I met this chick via SA.

Slim, fit, blonde. Totally my type. We met for a few drinks, conversation flowed well. We discussed what each of us expect.

There were slight differences but nothing deal breaking. I walked with her after drinks and we had this tender moment of a deeply passionate kiss. And we parted ways. It was no expectations meet and greet anyway. But I walked with a bulge in pants after that kiss.

Few days later, she texted me that she was expecting around 600 to 800 per date and that I was offering half. I told her my upper limit and mentioned to her that 600 is a deal breaker. And, it kinda went cold.

But, she would text me once a while and just have random chats. Like just two friends checking in and neither of us mentioned $ or meet up.

Last week, I checked in on her because I know she had a rough few weeks. She responded that she is doing OK.

This morning, I woke up to text "hey, you got any plans for tonight? If not, maybe, we grab a drink and see where it goes?

I am headed for that drink. Excited. But holding my horse (s) back.

Will post back how this night goes.[/QUOTE]How odd, I've only had it go the other way around. Except they would always offer extras first, then later on it would go to shit. Bad luck for me, I guess.

[QUOTE=Gfefan;2962192]About 10 months ago, I met this chick via SA.

Slim, fit, blonde. Totally my type. We met for a few drinks, conversation flowed well. We discussed what each of us expect.

There were slight differences but nothing deal breaking. I walked with her after drinks and we had this tender moment of a deeply passionate kiss. And we parted ways. It was no expectations meet and greet anyway. But I walked with a bulge in pants after that kiss.

Few days later, she texted me that she was expecting around 600 to 800 per date and that I was offering half. I told her my upper limit and mentioned to her that 600 is a deal breaker. And, it kinda went cold.

But, she would text me once a while and just have random chats. Like just two friends checking in and neither of us mentioned $ or meet up.

Last week, I checked in on her because I know she had a rough few weeks. She responded that she is doing OK.

This morning, I woke up to text "hey, you got any plans for tonight? If not, maybe, we grab a drink and see where it goes?

I am headed for that drink. Excited. But holding my horse (s) back.

Will post back how this night goes.[/QUOTE]I'm talking to a smoking hot 21 year-old baby who knows it too. Slim, beautiful, blue-eyed, and blonde. Really pretty face! A freaking 10 on my optics scale. And she wants to bareback! She asked for a ridiculous $1,000 per meet, twice the going rate in this town, and I said hell no! I countered with $500 per meet plus if she needs something like some clothes, groceries, something for her apartment, shoes, etc. She thought about it for a day and came back and said OK. We're going to both get recent testing so we can go bareback. She wants me to cum in her! This girl is so, so hot! Even more than my last one and only baby (we were also barebacking). My dick is so hard right now it hurts! My god! When you score on Seeking you really fucking score! Man! All I can say is cast a wide net, be persistent, and swing for the fences for the home run! Wow!

[QUOTE=TheCane;2962203]I'm talking to a smoking hot 21 year-old baby who knows it too. Slim, beautiful, blue-eyed, and blonde. Really pretty face! A freaking 10 on my optics scale. And she wants to bareback! She asked for a ridiculous $1,000 per meet, twice the going rate in this town, and I said hell no! I countered with $500 per meet plus if she needs something like some clothes, groceries, something for her apartment, shoes, etc. She thought about it for a day and came back and said OK. We're going to both get recent testing so we can go bareback. She wants me to cum in her! This girl is so, so hot! Even more than my last one and only baby (we were also barebacking). My dick is so hard right now it hurts! My god! When you score on Seeking you really fucking score! Man! All I can say is cast a wide net, be persistent, and swing for the fences for the home run! Wow![/QUOTE]Many of these level 10 girls are "Dead Fish" in the bedroom. It comes down to their attitude. Its all about them and very little about you.

I always tell them I cannot wear condoms because I cannot feel anything, so I get checked often, just recently, I might add, and never have had anything. I offer to let them see my test results, but they never have taken me up on it, they trust me. I also tell them I have only had sex with 7-8 women in my life. In reality, add 2 zeros at the end, more like 700 to 800.

Unless they have an IUD, I always do the pull out method and cum on their ass. I prefer not to make a baby and pay child support for 18 years, although I have had 2 women that wanted to and asked to have babies with me.

So after a few fucks I get tired of them and ghost them and get something different.