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[QUOTE=TheCane;2962203]I'm talking to a smoking hot 21 year-old baby who knows it too. Slim, beautiful, blue-eyed, and blonde. Really pretty face! A freaking 10 on my optics scale. And she wants to bareback! She asked for a ridiculous $1,000 per meet, twice the going rate in this town, and I said hell no! I countered with $500 per meet plus if she needs something like some clothes, groceries, something for her apartment, shoes, etc. She thought about it for a day and came back and said OK. We're going to both get recent testing so we can go bareback. She wants me to cum in her! This girl is so, so hot! Even more than my last one and only baby (we were also barebacking). My dick is so hard right now it hurts! My god! When you score on Seeking you really fucking score! Man! All I can say is cast a wide net, be persistent, and swing for the fences for the home run! Wow![/QUOTE]I hope you're snipped man. You are playing with fire if not. A girl telling you she's on birth control means nothing unless you are 100% sure. Don't let a few nights of passion stick you with a child. You don't know that a girl doesn't see you as an 18 year early pension. Just do your due diligence and don't trust the word of a girl you don't know.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2962111]I wonder if Seeking has "ringers" on the payroll just to try to get guys hooked on paying those high membership fees? I'm talking women (or could be a guy pretending) who have no intention of meeting you, and are just there to try to keep you as a paying member. I know other types of dating sites are guilty of this unethical practice, and even knew a girl who did that kind of work for a dating site once. Keep them hooked![/QUOTE]The day you first join they feature your profile to other women, and give you priority to interact with women all around the world. Also on the day or two before your membership expires. So you get all kinds of hit and attention on those days.

On the days in between your profile and photo is shuffled in the middle with everyone else and you get much less exposure. Its all designed to boost renewals. All the dating sites do this.

[QUOTE=HumbleHal;2962341]The day you first join they feature your profile to other women, and give you priority to interact with women all around the world. Also on the day or two before your membership expires. So you get all kinds of hit and attention on those days.

On the days in between your profile and photo is shuffled in the middle with everyone else and you get much less exposure. Its all designed to boost renewals. All the dating sites do this.[/QUOTE]If that is true, that's not exactly unethical, compared to deliberately filling the site with bots, or having a human pose as an interested party.

I recently acquired a new sugar baby named HOpe. Another in my rotation is named HOlly. They both have the same birthday, Monday November 18th of this week. What are the chances / odd? 1 out of 365. Less than. 003 chance. They are identical according to horoscope and both easy to get along with, but one gets twice the $$ what I give the other.

I took one for lunch today and shopping, the other one goes for lunch and shopping next Monday. They do not know about each other but are both my HOes. What are the odds they would do a 3-some with me? Afraid to tell them about each other to suggest it. True.

Last day of a 5 week trip, started in BA and ending in SP.

I only had 1 girl in BA because I found a gem on the first date.

Guili, 33 why. O fake blonde, all natural tits. I kept going back to her because I felt the price was fair a one hundred dollar bill for 2 hours.

She does BBBJ, bb anal BUT covered in pussy, afraid of babies. She also does CIM, great attitude, does golden showers too, not on her face. Saw her five times in three weeks, will probably fly her somewhere to meet for vacation.

I went to Rio but did not use seeking. Then I went on to SP, have seen 3 ladies here, all in early 30's.

Mary was first, when I asked her how much she wanted. She just said whatever I feel is fair which turns out to be not. The case she wanted four hundred for the full day but I wasn't willing to give her that, so I was planning on giving her two hundred and we agreed on two fifty and then she tried to get another fifty which I denied will not see her again.

The next one is renata who is a thirty two year old attorney all natural, paid $200 usd, totally a traditional date with sex at the end all covered, no anal, speaks perfect English. Fun to be with, but sex was not worth it. If I could convince her that I was s. T. the free and away to figure out how she could not worry about getting pregnant. She might end up going bareback.

Last night saw Cris, another thirty something professional that speaks perfect english this one did everything bare including CIM.

In s p I might have paid a little bit more, but it was worth it for me.

[QUOTE=HumbleHal;2962456]I recently acquired a new sugar baby named HOpe. Another in my rotation is named HOlly. They both have the same birthday, Monday November 18th of this week. What are the chances / odd? 1 out of 365. Less than. 003 chance. They are identical according to horoscope and both easy to get along with, but one gets twice the $$ what I give the other.

I took one for lunch today and shopping, the other one goes for lunch and shopping next Monday. They do not know about each other but are both my HOes. What are the odds they would do a 3-some with me? Afraid to tell them about each other to suggest it. True.[/QUOTE]Sometimes life is stranger than fiction. I have had two sugar babies turn from 23 to 24 in my hotel room in London. I shit you not. We fucked on their birthday in my room and I barely knew either one. Seems like they could be making hit up but no. The first was Thifany who I flew from Brazil. I had her passport to book her flight so I know it was factually her birthday. The second was a local London girl of Viet descent. It was our very first date, and she took "the birthday call" from her mom while sittting on my bed as I removed her leather fuck-me boots!

You cannot make this shit up!

So, this turned out to be a good date but I consciously ended with no action.

We met at a bar, grabbed a few drinks, cozy place given the storm outside.

Chatted a lot. She walked me through all goods and bads in her life. She has a startup now and we discussed some feedback on her approach and website.

(Yes, I know her real name and place etc. ,

She has had a rough few months due to a personal loss. As she drank more, she opened up more. I was happy to lend her a listening ear.

Two hours of chit chat and hugs and few kisses.

Neither did I push for taking it to the room (didn't feel like it. Felt like I would take advantage of her vulnerability that night. Just didn't feel right) nor did she offer.

A deep lingering kiss by the corner where we waited for her uber. Uber arrived. A warm hug and we both went our ways.

Next AM got a text from her that she felt good after letting it out previous night.

Spent $70 on our snacks / drinks but I have this good feeling that the money didn't go waste. If I could make someone feel better, why not!

[QUOTE=Gfefan;2962192]About 10 months ago, I met this chick via SA.

Slim, fit, blonde. Totally my type. We met for a few drinks, conversation flowed well. We discussed what each of us expect.

There were slight differences but nothing deal breaking. I walked with her after drinks and we had this tender moment of a deeply passionate kiss. And we parted ways. It was no expectations meet and greet anyway. But I walked with a bulge in pants after that kiss.

Few days later, she texted me that she was expecting around 600 to 800 per date and that I was offering half. I told her my upper limit and mentioned to her that 600 is a deal breaker. And, it kinda went cold.

But, she would text me once a while and just have random chats. Like just two friends checking in and neither of us mentioned $ or meet up.

Last week, I checked in on her because I know she had a rough few weeks. She responded that she is doing OK.

This morning, I woke up to text "hey, you got any plans for tonight? If not, maybe, we grab a drink and see where it goes?

I am headed for that drink. Excited. But holding my horse (s) back.

Will post back how this night goes.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gfefan;2963102]So, this turned out to be a good date but I consciously ended with no action.

We met at a bar, grabbed a few drinks, cozy place given the storm outside.

Chatted a lot. She walked me through all goods and bads in her life. She has a startup now and we discussed some feedback on her approach and website.

(Yes, I know her real name and place etc. ,

She has had a rough few months due to a personal loss. As she drank more, she opened up more. I was happy to lend her a listening ear.

Two hours of chit chat and hugs and few kisses.

Neither did I push for taking it to the room (didn't feel like it. Felt like I would take advantage of her vulnerability that night. Just didn't feel right) nor did she offer.

A deep lingering kiss by the corner where we waited for her uber. Uber arrived. A warm hug and we both went our ways.

Next AM got a text from her that she felt good after letting it out previous night.

Spent $70 on our snacks / drinks but I have this good feeling that the money didn't go waste. If I could make someone feel better, why not![/QUOTE]Yep. Genuine human interaction with these women is underrated. Fuck bunny even told me she enjoyed hanging out with me more than her BF because I listen to her shit. You could tell she just needed to let it out. And then a very grateful fuck later that night.

[QUOTE=Gfefan;2963102]So, this turned out to be a good date but I consciously ended with no action.

We met at a bar, grabbed a few drinks, cozy place given the storm outside.

Chatted a lot. She walked me through all goods and bads in her life. She has a startup now and we discussed some feedback on her approach and website.

(Yes, I know her real name and place etc. ,

She has had a rough few months due to a personal loss. As she drank more, she opened up more. I was happy to lend her a listening ear.

Two hours of chit chat and hugs and few kisses.

Neither did I push for taking it to the room (didn't feel like it. Felt like I would take advantage of her vulnerability that night. Just didn't feel right) nor did she offer.

A deep lingering kiss by the corner where we waited for her uber. Uber arrived. A warm hug and we both went our ways.

Next AM got a text from her that she felt good after letting it out previous night.

Spent $70 on our snacks / drinks but I have this good feeling that the money didn't go waste. If I could make someone feel better, why not![/QUOTE]So, are you going to follow up with her?

Yes. We text each other.

I am open to fucking her when she is out of her vulnerable zone and is consciously OK fucking. Thumb rule is neither I nor her should regret the fuck next AM.

Until then, a few texts here and there or a few drinks is totally fine with me. After all, a $40 for a weekend drinks at a bar is something I would do anyway. Picking up the tab including her drinks is no big deal. To be clear, I will not pay her for her time on platonic dates. I will not cause that inflation or encourage that behavior...but picking the tab for an additional 30/40 bucks, once a while, is no biggie.

Fuck or no fuck. I think what I like about this girl is that we both know the ppm is not something we are aligned. But, she is mature enough to see beyond just ppm. So, that itself is a win in terms of neither of us taking it transactionally. As long as those good vibes last, why not?

It costs nothing to make someone feel good. I guess that's what we are doing to each other.

[QUOTE=VanessasClient;2963126]So, are you going to follow up with her?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gfefan;2963352]Yes. We text each other.

I am open to fucking her when she is out of her vulnerable zone and is consciously OK fucking. Thumb rule is neither I nor her should regret the fuck next AM.

Until then, a few texts here and there or a few drinks is totally fine with me. After all, a $40 for a weekend drinks at a bar is something I would do anyway. Picking up the tab including her drinks is no big deal. To be clear, I will not pay her for her time on platonic dates. I will not cause that inflation or encourage that behavior...but picking the tab for an additional 30/40 bucks, once a while, is no biggie.

Fuck or no fuck. I think what I like about this girl is that we both know the ppm is not something we are aligned. But, she is mature enough to see beyond just ppm. So, that itself is a win in terms of neither of us taking it transactionally. As long as those good vibes last, why not?

It costs nothing to make someone feel good. I guess that's what we are doing to each other.[/QUOTE]Hmmmm. What if you find yourself in a similar situation, but the girl is over an hour drive away? What if at the end of the date, she requested $50 to go fill her tank with gas; would you do it?

[QUOTE=VanessasClient;2963391]Hmmmm. What if you find yourself in a similar situation, but the girl is over an hour drive away? What if at the end of the date, she requested $50 to go fill her tank with gas; would you do it?[/QUOTE]You are NOT obligated to give them $50 gas money or any money unless you start an arrangement at an agreed price, other than pay for the meal if you offer to meet them in a restaurant. Get over this. I have just gotten rid of one Mooch that otherwise had good talent (firm boobies) because she keeps begging and asking for more money for gas, groceries, baby sitter, etc.

I have had enough of the Mooching. Then when I go to the gas station, grocery store checkout or 7-11 Cashier they always ask if I would like to donate for someone else's kids. Come on, man! Stop asking me for money, mooches! Just say NO! Then BYE. Just like the pan handlers on the street corner, you are NOT obligated to give them shit! And you are not obligated to tip at a restaurant if you get shitty service or no walnuts on your salad, like they did to me today.

And when I am tired of the woman or want to take a break, I simply say "I am short of money this week, babe! Or "going out of town this week to visit family" "Maybe next week!" And then I can cut them loose if I want and get another. Sometimes the chase is the fun. And most women are not worth the aggravation they cause! You need to be able to say NO and cut them off when YOU are tired of them!

That is not similar situation.

The moment she asks money for "her time" but no intimacy, deal is off the table.

I entertain only those girls who are non-transactional. For example, my Europe SB got into an accident and I helped her with money although we areon different continents. And that sweet one returns the money to me the next time we met. The AM after sex at hotel she was returning my money and I actually joked "wait. Am I the SB now?

Needless to say, I refused to take it back but you get the point. It is not the distance that matters. Nor the $. It is the overall package.

And, if they are after gas / baby sitter money, they don't make the cut of being my SB. I pay. What they do with it is upto them.

Wise ones use me well. Rest. I just don't give a fuck.

[QUOTE=VanessasClient;2963391]Hmmmm. What if you find yourself in a similar situation, but the girl is over an hour drive away? What if at the end of the date, she requested $50 to go fill her tank with gas; would you do it?[/QUOTE]

Hey All,

I have a potential trip coming up to Amsterdam. Thinking of seeing what's out there on Seeking and looking to see if I can have a fun evening or two. Anyone had any recent experience here? Would be good to know what the going rate is allowance-wise and if it's generally worth the hassle. My expectations are actually pretty low, as I'm expecting girls to be demanding and possibly for not a great experience. Just thought I'd reach out and see how others have done here first though.

Not sure about Amsterdam city but overall NL is good.

I have done 300 date, dinner, overnight stay. Maastricht is where my regular is from. It is a university town couple hours drive from Amsterdam.

The Hague also has given me great experiences at the same price point.

Tall, athletic blondes.

[QUOTE=Indy69;2964201]Hey All,

I have a potential trip coming up to Amsterdam. Thinking of seeing what's out there on Seeking and looking to see if I can have a fun evening or two. Anyone had any recent experience here? Would be good to know what the going rate is allowance-wise and if it's generally worth the hassle. My expectations are actually pretty low, as I'm expecting girls to be demanding and possibly for not a great experience. Just thought I'd reach out and see how others have done here first though.[/QUOTE]