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I like great sex just like everyone else but from time to time I like a good tantra message with a good lingam massage finish. I haven't explored that in Medellin yet but I do see some offers. Tantra Medellin appears to be a place that offers that but quality is unknown. Carrera 80 #44 b-139 is the address. 120 mil for 45 minutes including oral, unclear if that is BBBJCIM. Anyone try that place? Any recommendations for an attractive woman that offers a good tantra massage?
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2820188]As realistically as possible, how long could a mongering make it in Medellin if they had 1 million in cash? Could you go forever and budget your shit right. Make some money off the interest. Work some digital nomad gigs and make that shit last 20 years and live comfortably? Anyone thoughts from some people who have long term experience would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]If your money was properly invested and with little risk tolerance yes, you could live in perpetuity with that much and live like a king in Medellin.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2820451]Stereotype? The reality of a working girl is that they are fucking for money. Why would they have a need to be loyal or to not kiss anyone else that night? If you have an actual girlfriend then no she is not going around kissing any tom dick or harry. How is that even a thought? This is my actual girlfriend, but since she is Brazilian she has a tendency to go around the room kissing random strangers? That sounds ridiculous.[/QUOTE]Sigh. [URL]https://www.charliehoehn.com/2010/11/23/6-weeks-in-buenos-aires-or-how-i-learned-to-love-brazilians/[/URL].
The first thing you should know about Brazilian women is that, if you are in a bar or club, they are very quick to jump down your throat. I've seen guys walk up to them and passionately make out within 20 seconds of meeting, to the extent that it looks like they're going to rip each other's clothes off right in front of you. This is not an exaggeration.
[URL]https://www.quora.com/What-does-a-Brazilian-kiss-mean-Why-do-Brazilian-girls-like-to-engage-in-a-kiss-with-a-stranger-at-a-pub[/URL]
What does a Brazilian kiss mean? Why do Brazilian girls like to engage in a kiss with a stranger at a pub?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2820451]What do you mean you are more impressed by the Colombian work ethic? If a Colombian or Brazilian have a job, then they both go to them and work.[/QUOTE]That says a lot about who have you been hanging around with. Go to an upscale home in Brazil and one in Colombia. What is the biggest difference between the two?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2820451]If you judge on hookers alone, isn't it said here that Colombian hookers should be expected to be late? You do not see that in Brazil.[/QUOTE]You don't see that in Brazil? LOL. Hell, even if a woman wanted to be on time, you never know with the traffic in Sao Paulo.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2820451]I have had normal relationships with many Colombians and many Brazilians. They are both the same. If a woman anywhere loves you and wants to be with you then the relationship reflects that. It has nothing to do with having a yes woman who never tells you no about anything.[/QUOTE]When I was in Colombia, the woman I was with spent two hours preparing a meal. In Colombia, the government has declared that Venezuelans be paid the same minimum wage as Colombians. Maybe there are some, but I have never heard of anyone having servants in Colombia.
When I went to upscale homes in Argentina and Brazil, the servants prepared the meal, did the cleaning, and hell even raised the children. I met an Argentine who lived in Canada that was skiing two days after giving birth, and the reason she was able to do was that she had so much help. She said in Canada she would have had only one child but she was able to have four because she had so much help. And every upscale home I looked at in Brazil and Argentina had servants quarters.
The helpers typically come from rural Brazil or Paraguay, and they are paid next to nothing. A Brazilian lawyer wanted to pay her servant more but she was told by neighbors not to do so as to not raise the price on everyone else. It is kind of like the guys here bitching at others for paying the hookers more.
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2820489]Guess I should read his book. Lives in Medellin. [URL]https://www.facebook.com/josephbovino[/URL] you remeer my target market for sculptures are plastic surgeons? De. Robert Rey etc.[/QUOTE]It is a good read. It is funny that the author ended up in Medellin.
This:
[QUOTE=OldSchool318;2820338]I can think of a couple reasons. Being in the concrete jungle is a rush to some of these guys.
Many also are coming from a place where the high end shit is expensive and they are trying to save coin. Maybe they would save coin anyway by just being there but in the end. That's the way they choose to do it.
I have done it both ways going low end and high end. Even in between. I love street girls so sometimes that's the way I do it. I also love higher end girls too.
In the end I am most concerned with did you have a good time.[/QUOTE]And this:
[QUOTE=CasaNoVa;2820309]As upper middle class I can choose to fly under the radar in a third world country. Not bring much attention on myself and have my budget extend way further. From cheap hotels to Hostels I've been able to stay in countries much longer not pay a premium for lodging and women and search for those diamonds in the rough in the slummier mongering locations. I speak Spanish fluently and have had great experiences without breaking the bank. For me a pretty comfy bed and a roof over my head is all I need. Plus meeting likeminded backpackers and world travelers from all walk of life is fun when staying in hostels. If I meet a higher maintenance type of girl I always have the option of a nicer love motel or booking a 5 star hotel for one or 2 nights if necessary. I'm not flashy nor am I dirty and unhygienic. Upper thirties, fit, decent looking white Latino dude and you will find me having fun in Santa Fe, Centro Medellin or Gringo Gulch CR. If I want to treat a great girl I find to luxury we can always take a trip somewhere like Guatape or the beach.
Analogy: I try not to assume well off people from any City when going out into the woods always go glamping. Maybe a tent and a sleeping bag and connecting with the raw somewhat dangerous nature of it all is exciting to some. To others maybe not.[/QUOTE]You can find loud, obnoxious, poorly educated gringos, with no class and poor hygiene, anywhere. If you're anywhere in Medellin, and you hear people conversing in English, there's a fair chance you'll hear something which fits into 1 of the categories above. Talk to 20 random gringos, probably 1 will have bad breath, body odor, or enough cologne to pose a health hazard. You can find them in Provenza and Parque Lleras, or in El Centro.
Poorly educated has no connection to the level of education completed. Read the forum and tell me I'm wrong. The post which started all this, which mentioned high school dropouts, appears to have been written by a low achieving 12 year old. Run it by your favorite 6th grade English teacher and watch the red pen go to work. The follow-up posts claiming a definite correlation between low class and preference for El Centro are nothing more than poorly disguised bigotry and bigotry can only exist by embracing ignorance.
Instead of posting your beliefs on the inferiority of people who have different preferences, why not post something useful? Where do you eat? What shopping do you do? What have you learned that helps you connect with the girls? What problems have you experienced and how did you overcome them? If you've spent more than a few weeks in Medellin, you should have some knowledge, which others can use to improve their visit.
And isn't helping others better than insulting people you know nothing about?
I'll start.
If I'm staying in an apartment, I'll usually cook breakfast. Fry some eggs, slice an avocado, and wash it down with some juice. Lunch I take at any Colombian restaurant, with a menu of the day. You should have no trouble finding something for under 25 k (when I started, 12-15 k was high end). That's your choice of pork chicken or beef, usually with rice, some type of potato, possibly yuca (edible drywall), a small salad, maybe a choice of soup or beans, and either juice or guandolo. It's just a simple meal, cheap and easy.
Talking to the girls, throw out a few compliments. Most will eat it up. Don't waste a lot of time getting to know them. If you're talking to a girl 6 months before your trip, you'll probably be disappointed. Make contact, let them know when you're coming and move on until you're on the way.
If you've got some special girls and want to make their stay more memorable, get a Disney+ subscription and bring a jar of bread and butter pickles (I wrap the jar in bubble wrap and put it in a zip lock bag in my checked bag). The pickles are like candy and Disney can be streamed in Spanish with English subtitles (or vice versa).
What useful tips do you have?
For awhile I've been sporadically chatting with this attractive Facebook girl. I told her I'll be visiting Medellin and that maybe we can have some fun together, my usual opening line. She readily agreed. Fast forward to today, I message her saying I'm in Medellin for a few weeks if you still want to meet. She says sure, but you should know that I only go out on "citas". Now I've seen this term translated as "date" and "appointment", and pros use it to mean the latter, so I ask if she means a regular date or a paid date. Immediately blocked. Guess she meant a romantic date, whoops.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;2820562]I like great sex just like everyone else but from time to time I like a good tantra message with a good lingam massage finish. I haven't explored that in Medellin yet but I do see some offers. Tantra Medellin appears to be a place that offers that but quality is unknown. Carrera 80 #44 b-139 is the address. 120 mil for 45 minutes including oral, unclear if that is BBBJCIM. Anyone try that place? Any recommendations for an attractive woman that offers a good tantra massage?[/QUOTE]I went there a couple years back. It wasn't anyting speical like a second rate energy and not that organized. I actually got caught by my noiva at the time because I had "tantra medellin" in my most recent uber rides and I had a uber driver waiting of for me. He cancled the ride and I had to put an address in when my GF showed up and she grab my phone, typed and then giggle nervously. Later that night she revelaed and ya. Tantra Medellin pretty hard to hide haha.
I didn't get any Tantra either, its just a name. Normal sex place with pretty average girls.
[QUOTE=Talon;2820547]Om Spa for Men is the only one I've tried in the last couple years and the most I've gotten a girl to do is a HJ. How are those others? Do they offer more?[/QUOTE]I literally just left Zen. Got a really hot masseuse. Believe her name is Joanna. Very nice look to her. But best I could do was a HJ. Same experience as OM. But the massage was very good.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;2820562]I like great sex just like everyone else but from time to time I like a good tantra message with a good lingam massage finish. I haven't explored that in Medellin yet but I do see some offers. Tantra Medellin appears to be a place that offers that but quality is unknown. Carrera 80 #44 b-139 is the address. 120 mil for 45 minutes including oral, unclear if that is BBBJCIM. Anyone try that place? Any recommendations for an attractive woman that offers a good tantra massage?[/QUOTE]Tried it several years ago, so not sure this is helpful. But I left pretty disappointed.
I would recommend Happy Massage for what you're looking for. It is pricey, by Colombian standards, but has exactly what you are looking for. I've visited with all of the current girls and I don't think you can make a bad choice.
[QUOTE=Talon;2820621]For awhile I've been sporadically chatting with this attractive Facebook girl. I told her I'll be visiting Medellin and that maybe we can have some fun together, my usual opening line. She readily agreed. Fast forward to today, I message her saying I'm in Medellin for a few weeks if you still want to meet. She says sure, but you should know that I only go out on "citas". Now I've seen this term translated as "date" and "appointment", and pros use it to mean the latter, so I ask if she means a regular date or a paid date. Immediately blocked. Guess she meant a romantic date, whoops.[/QUOTE]Cita means what you want it to, generally it means that you meet up for sex, any other activities will be up to you but it generally means at your place. Few Colombian girls will be talking to foreign men they've never met over the internet, those that do know what the score is.
Honestly, I wouldn't bother talking to them too much until you're in country or at least very close to it (I. E. You're sitting in the departure lounge and bored).
Colombianas live in the moment, at best they might make plans for the next few days, even then those plans are pretty far from solid. If she's asking if you want a cita, she means now-ish, as in she's bored and needs money today.
As a side note, if you've never been to Medellin, you should really read up on Colombian slang (Google is your friend here). This will really help with the language barrier,.
Yoo.
Last time I was in MDE I stayed at no doorman airbnb near Lleras and it was great I would just walk the girls back to my spot for fun.
This time I think I will stay away from the noise in a large building that checks all IDs and I will try to get most of my girls not from Lleras. But if I did want a Lleras girl and they don't have an ID where are the short time motels to go to that are close?
[QUOTE=Talon;2820621]Now I've seen this term translated as "date" and "appointment", and pros use it to mean the latter, so I ask if she means a regular date or a paid date. Immediately blocked. Guess she meant a romantic date, whoops.[/QUOTE]That is why my favorite thing to say is "como asi?" so that I can get clarification.
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2820462]MiamiBoy is just being a ******* as usual. The fact of the matter is that- El Centro is the heart of Medellin and you can find people from all walks of life there. Wasting money just because you have it is stupid. Obviously, as he has proven time and time again with his arrogant posts, MB1 doesn't know the real Colombia, he stays in his plastic barrios fucking his plastic women that he overpays.
El Centro is much more than just Botero or Veracruz, it is the heart of the city where you can find anything your looking for whether that be bandeja paisa, paintings being sold by local artists, even shower heads and excellent quality knock off shoes. I myself like to sip on a 2 mil lemonade while sitting down and people watching.
As far as the prostitution goes sure there are a lot of undesirable hags in the Veracruz area but there are also beautiful, sweet diamonds in the rough to be found there, it just takes a little effort to find what you are looking for. To blow the whole place off is just asinine. But hey I guess if you've got "the coin" you can live in your own little arrogant world.[/QUOTE]Your right on the money here.
Most guys who go to Centro and see all the undesirables as you described have a tendency to jump to the conclusion that anyone who partakes there is also an undesirable as well.
However I think it takes a lot of effort, versus a little effort to find what your looking for, the language barrier is huge, and probably the hardest part is that you need to spend lots of time on the ground there and be very patient to find the diamonds in the rough.
I have been exploring the listings of Abnb places in Medellin. There are quite a few that expressly say no sex tourism or "no hookers". It is a shame that a number of those places are very nice. A lot more places say that visitors are not allowed or the registered guests are allowed, meaning if you have a special girl. Medellin probably has more Abnb places with guest restrictions than other cities. There is definitely a lot of hosts who do not want the business of gringos engaged in mongering so be careful about reading the house rules when trying to book an Abnb place.
If you are a casa guy or El Centro streetwalker fan, it will not be a problem and there are a lot of great places that you can stay for a reasonable price. There are still a number of good places on Abnb that are guest friendly but I would say it is a minority of listings on Abnb.
It is the same with the hotels. There are guest friendly hotels but there are also a lot of hotels that do not allow guests or charge a high price for visitors.
You don't run into this issue as much in Thailand or the Philippines or even Mexico. But apparently it is an issue in Medellin.
[QUOTE=LivingFossil;2820698]Yoo.
Last time I was in MDE I stayed at no doorman airbnb near Lleras and it was great I would just walk the girls back to my spot for fun.
This time I think I will stay away from the noise in a large building that checks all IDs and I will try to get most of my girls not from Lleras. But if I did want a Lleras girl and they don't have an ID where are the short time motels to go to that are close?[/QUOTE]A girl without an ID from Lleras is a death wish.