[QUOTE=Red Wine]I would just like to know what fellow mongers are paying these days.[/QUOTE]
Usually 500ps and food and drinks for her.
Cheers!
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[QUOTE=Red Wine]I would just like to know what fellow mongers are paying these days.[/QUOTE]
Usually 500ps and food and drinks for her.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Ekspat]Usually 500ps and food and drinks for her.
Cheers![/QUOTE]
fully agreed! IMHO 1000 pesos would be way too much, but let's be honest, this discussion is an endless and fruitless one! Anything goes, from zero up to 3000 pesos.
Where are the mates who will remind us now not to spoil the market? :)
Cheers!
Hesekiels
[QUOTE=Hesekiels]
Where are the mates who will remind us now not to spoil the market? :)
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Market is already spoiled! Can't unspoil it either.
Most of the good mongering spots in the world have been spoiled. You can thank the internet for that!
I've never accepted that the big spenders "spoil the market" or raise prices. Not sure, but I think the person quoted below was making the same point.
I do get midly irritated when a guy or two buys drinks for five / eight / or even ten gals because that spoils the moment for ME in THAT BAR at THAT MOMENT.
I think there is really a very complex dynamic involved in tipping / drinks / prices. I could probably make some points from a sociopsychological point, but I think it is best to quote one of my more articulate barfines.
"When I'm drunk, I don't care, but if he's really ugly, I don't want to wake up next to him. Yuck." (this was her reason for doing a runner).
X
[QUOTE=Hesekiels]fully agreed! IMHO 1000 pesos would be way too much, but let's be honest, this discussion is an endless and fruitless one! Anything goes, from zero up to 3000 pesos.
Where are the mates who will remind us now not to spoil the market? :)
Cheers!
Hesekiels[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ekspat]Usually 500ps and food and drinks for her.
Cheers![/QUOTE]
Same here. 500p
Sometimes a little less for average performance.
Zero if they leave early.
Greetings fellow ISG members. My first and only visit to AC was in 2006 for 2 weeks and now I am finally planning my return. Back then things seemed very simple to understand after reading this board, as the old Orchid and Central Park were considered great places to stay for price and location, barfines were 1200 for the most part, and tipping ranged from 200 to 500 for LT depending on peformance. I only had one runner in those 2 weeks and the women in almost every bar I visited made me feel like the center of attention. What I liked the most about AC was that nearly every woman I met gave me great GFE and treated me like their boyfriend. They would do anything to keep me happy during sex.
Today I decided to read some recent reports for the first time in years and I took the following:
1- All showcase giant bars on Fields have more inflated prices for drinks and BF than the smaller bars.
2- Staying in a more expensive hotel means we are more likely to get better response from the ladies, regardless of our looks or friendly behavior.
3- Most people are tipping over 500 after LT.
5- Buying LD is mandatory if you want to talk to someone. LD prices will vary for different beverages instead of a fixed price for all.
6- Quality is very low in small bars compared to the big bars.
7- There is nothing you can say that will stop ladies from running after first pop. Offering higher tip is the only form of strategy.
Please correct me if I am wrong, but do I have a realistic view of how things are right now? Is GFE and sweet attitudes still easy to find on Fields av?
Good places are all gone, have to agree with Amjeck. The internet took the work out of finding these places. Everyone from the famous and rich to the everyday regular has been to the places all over the world and with the influence of American government rules and money this will all change fast. Not to start a tread but just the way it is. Sad to see it go.
[QUOTE=Panman]
Today I decided to read some recent reports for the first time in years and I took the following:
1- All showcase giant bars on Fields have more inflated prices for drinks and BF than the smaller bars.
2- Staying in a more expensive hotel means we are more likely to get better response from the ladies, regardless of our looks or friendly behavior.
3- Most people are tipping over 500 after LT.
5- Buying LD is mandatory if you want to talk to someone. LD prices will vary for different beverages instead of a fixed price for all.
6- Quality is very low in small bars compared to the big bars.
7- There is nothing you can say that will stop ladies from running after first pop. Offering higher tip is the only form of strategy.
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Certainly not wrong, but I tend to doubt that 'the quality in small bars is lower'.
Cheers!
Hesekiels
[QUOTE=Red Wine]I concur with Mayntain. Tell me Mayntain, what is your range of tipping? I have heard ranges from P500-P3000. I remember my first time to AC; I tipped a girl P500 for LT. Over time my tips were between P1000-P2000 depending on performance and the GFE, not to mention my return visit for the same girl if she was outstanding. I just feel that anything less than P1000 is so cheap, especially for great performance IMO, but hey I could be the cheap one at P1000. I would just like to know what fellow mongers are paying these days.
I also did tip another girl P500 but that was because she really had a bad attitude about things so what initially began as a potential LT changed quickly to an ST.[/QUOTE]You are tipping the girls to get them to stay LT? Jesus man. P100 is fine, for tryke only. The girls typically work for me one pop each evening and morning, they rarely ask or expect a tip. I give them tryke money anyway. They are glad to work LT for half the p1500 barfine.
A trick to prevent the runner. While in the bar, tell her the time in the morning you expect her to stay until (8am? I use 10am). Then, after she's changed clothes, chat with the mama with the girl present, tell the mamasan everything the girl agreed to do, including the time. You might be surprised to hear this, but if she runs, the next night the mama will make her do the remaining time with you whether she likes it or not (Geckos, Body Shop). They will not, however, return any of your money. The bars are very particular about the girl completing whatever she said she would do.
If its early, say 8pm, some girls will not agree to stay until the morning. They are just being honest, they are looking for ST. But if she says 8am, and you repeat that to mama, they don't run. If you don't clarify it in advance, she's under no obligation to the bar to stay with you for more than one pop. BTW, she is under obligation to the bar to have at least a pop, even if not negotiated. First thing the mama or manager will ask on a customer complaint is if you had naughty.
Once again, OMG, you don't need to tip the girls. This is not Burgos in Manila, where the girls will work out the tip before leaving the bar. P1000? 2000? Jeez, driving up prices. Performance is usually good anyway.
[QUOTE=Red Wine]I concur with Mayntain. Tell me Mayntain, what is your range of tipping? I have heard ranges from P500-P3000. I remember my first time to AC; I tipped a girl P500 for LT. Over time my tips were between P1000-P2000 depending on performance and the GFE, not to mention my return visit for the same girl if she was outstanding. I just feel that anything less than P1000 is so cheap, especially for great performance IMO, but hey I could be the cheap one at P1000. I would just like to know what fellow mongers are paying these days.
I also did tip another girl P500 but that was because she really had a bad attitude about things so what initially began as a potential LT changed quickly to an ST.[/QUOTE]
Cant really remember the last time I barfined in A.C. I mostly go for a few days and barhop with some ex-bargirls and they are my fuck buddys now. But If I recall I never gave less then P1000 in A.C. main reason is a never had a bad session with a bargirl there except one time. This girl talk a lot of shit in the bar about what she was gonna do to me,and when we got back to the room she damn near acted like a virgin. Cant remember exact amount I tipped her,but it was under P1000. These girls suck dick,lick nasty assholes,let fat guys bounce up and down on them,get cum sprayed in their face,and then get P500($11.00) and kicked out the room. Hmmmmm I wonder WHY these girls have a bad attitude! Go figure!
[QUOTE=Mayntain]These girls suck dick,lick nasty assholes,let fat guys bounce up and down on them,get cum sprayed in their face,and then get P500($11.00) and kicked out the room. Hmmmmm I wonder WHY these girls have a bad attitude! Go figure![/QUOTE]
And they do all the same with philippino guys who pay them nothing. Who's the fool? Also, these girls used to do the same, as you mention above, just a few years ago and were all happy campers.
ps. you forgot to add in half of the barfine with the p500 tip. These chicks aren't poor!
There has been a lot of talk RECENTLY about AC turning into a ST place, girls getting tipped very very well, and girls becoming selective. What is the reason for this recent change? Only recently have people been complaining about the girls attitudes.
IMO, this change is do to an increase of sex tourists who simply spoil the girls and give them too much money. Pretty much same story in every sex destination that has already been spoiled.
[QUOTE=Strikesfun]Good places are all gone, have to agree with Amjeck. The internet took the work out of finding these places. Everyone from the famous and rich to the everyday regular has been to the places all over the world and with the influence of American government rules and money this will all change fast. Not to start a tread but just the way it is. Sad to see it go.[/QUOTE]I think you are half right here. There are places out there but you need to know the local lingo. Places like PI are going down hill because of the net and cheap airfares.
I sometimes wonder how the people complaining about "high" prices value their own workforce (and I'm not even talking about the idea of providing sexual services to a stranger they probably don't find terribly attractive). No, what do these folks think they should get for a whole night of --insert whatever you do/did for your living--? A complete day of generic office work for 10 to 20 bucks? Of course only if you showed great attitude while doing that (providing Full Employee Experience) and only then may your boss tip you if he so chooses, otherwise you don't get anything and he sends you home with money for a bus (if you are lucky).
Talking about "spoiling" places or girls disregards that it's a supply and demand driven service and who would in all honestly deny a girl to take what she can get? Anybody thinking different about his own market value in business? And despite the fact that it is obviously still a buyer's paradise people seem to consider "almost free" anytime-sex to be a human right not a paid privilege.
You guys who tip 1000 basing the amount on western value are ridiculous. You have to realize what 1000 is for the avg Filipino. Thats what the avg get in a week. So their 500 portion of a bar fine is great money. Besides sleeping in an air con room and food. Tiping from 100 to 500 is more than enough.
Panman
Getting a room in one of the fancier hotels does NOT mean you will get laid any better than in any other room. If the girl is going to give you a good fuck. The room has little to do with it.
And most people are NOT tipping over 500 pesos for LT. Thats 50% tip or better. It won't get you laid any more or less.
Personally I never tip over 350. Usually 300 and trike fare. And no one has ever complained and I get repeats all the time.
[quote=poopbunny]same here. 500p
sometimes a little less for average performance.
zero if they leave early.[/quote]
agree with this.