Angeles City

[QUOTE=Panman]Today I decided to read some recent reports for the first time in years and I took the following:
1- All showcase giant bars on Fields have more inflated prices for drinks and BF than the smaller bars.
2- Staying in a more expensive hotel means we are more likely to get better response from the ladies, regardless of our looks or friendly behavior.
3- Most people are tipping over 500 after LT.
5- Buying LD is mandatory if you want to talk to someone. LD prices will vary for different beverages instead of a fixed price for all.
6- Quality is very low in small bars compared to the big bars.
7- There is nothing you can say that will stop ladies from running after first pop. Offering higher tip is the only form of strategy.

Please correct me if I am wrong, but do I have a realistic view of how things are right now? Is GFE and sweet attitudes still easy to find on Fields av?[/QUOTE]
1- Yes, sort of. Dollhouse bars actually stayed at 85 peso locals after most other bars went to 95. But they had high prices for everything else. Overall I'd call this a true statement, with the occasional outlier.

2- I've never experienced this. I've had runners from PB and had to kick girls out of 950 Condotel. I suppose they're more likely to want to stay in ABC than in the Wobbly Pension House next door, but even the average AC hotels are better than the average stay-in.

5- LD is pretty much mandatory if you want them to SIT with you. But I go to small bars a lot and sit right at the stage, and will flirt with the girls onstage until I find a fun one. Then I offer the LD for her to come talk further.

6- Quality of what? Appearance? I suppose it's easier to have a dozen girls that rate 8 or higher when you have 100 dancers instead of 15. But even so, that doesn't guarantee a better time. Besides, "small bar" is too wide of a blanket term. I don't know about now, but on my last trip, small bar La Bamba had an excellent lineup. Small bar Club 68, not so much. Small bars are a blast. I only barfine out of big bars if I already know the girls.

7- Some of the girls will flat-out lie to you about their intentions. If a girl wants to leave, I just let her leave. Tell her you don't tip for ST because you can get ST on Santos. I'd rather barfine her friend from the same bar the next night and give the friend a big tip if she stays LT.

Just my 1 peso worth.

[QUOTE=X Man]I've never accepted that the big spenders "spoil the market" or raise prices. Not sure, but I think the person quoted below was making the same point.

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Oh yes, you bet your life that I was making exactly the same point!

Cheers!


Hesekiels

went to Alaska last night and it was already late, 1am or so. No more customers around, but still loads of girls in the range of 5 to 7 on stage. And then, to my biggest surprise, I had exactly this sort of fun that you can normally find in Perimeter Bars only! Barfined a nice girl for 1300 pesos and after two rounds of excellent bedroom athletics she left at 8am with a 300 peso tip. All in all a great experience at Alaska and I will certainly go there again.

Cheers!


Hesekiels

[QUOTE=Rob Woodrow]5- LD is pretty much mandatory if you want them to SIT with you. But I go to small bars a lot and sit right at the stage, and will flirt with the girls onstage until I find a fun one. Then I offer the LD for her to come talk further.[/QUOTE]Yes, and no. But the obligatory drink is something I often save until after she's agreed to barfine. You can chat a girl for a few minutes without a drink before she gets up to go back and dance. Sitting at the stage is a MUCH better idea, the girls will come to you. Wink, smile, be happy with your drink. I think there is a common misperception that that the bars like to sell, that you need to have a seat, look over the girls, call one over to have a drink and see if she'll barfine. Ya, if you don't care much about your money and buying multiple LD. You buy a girl a drink (or 3), ask if she'll barfine, to find she's on her mens, or cherry. Worse, I see the same gent sometimes call another girl over, start buying LD, only to repeat the cycle.

A few different techniques, as Rob's, sitting at the stage. Never more than a few minutes and some girls will chat you up:

Dancing girl (body shop): "Sir, why not pick a girl for tonight? "

Me: They are too pretty. I cannot afford any here [wink]

Dancing girl: maybe you can barfine me? [notice, no LD has been purchased, and its been a short conversation]

Me: mmmm I need a special girl, who can (x), (y), (z)

Dancing girl: I can do those things sir. Also my cousin right over there if you like her more. Also my friend Alvalyn there.

In addition to this sitting at the stage thing, there is another thing that I do (but won't mention here on the board). PM me and I'll tell you. Works: everytime! To get the girls to chat you up, not vice versa.

An even better method. Chat the eldest waitress or mama, buy HER the drink. Be nice and chat her a bit, find out what province she's from, where her kids are. Then tell her exactly what you like; x, y, z (in fact, tell her you want a wild one who isn't afraid of anything). Its her job to point out girls for you that do those particular things. Smaller bars the mama knows about every girl. Larger bars she will only maybe know about certain girls, but she knows them well. "That one on the end. That one also the tall one. And the one there with the short hair also. " Wow, little need to buy a bunch of drinks now. Pick one she pointed out, buy her a drink and chat her a bit and get the hell out of there. Tell mama if the girl performs well tonight and in the morning, there is a tip for MAMA tomorrow (then do it). P100 for the girl's tryke and p1-200 for mama the next night is invaluable (mama got a LD + tip, she's your friend for life).

Part of my x, y, z is camera, and 10AM. See that? 10AM (in filipines, AC and elsewhere). Rarely girls say no to cam, but sometimes they can't/won't stay in the morning. Her saying so in the bar is how to avoid her. Girl's who know you have their pic, and worse have said in front of mama she can stay till 10, will rarely run after ST. About 1/3 of my barfines are still with me at noon, 1pm. I rarely tip more than p100 to the girl, and on return trips I have some who like to show up after work at 1am for a drink, videoke, and some fun free afterhours time in my room (waking up around noon). For the gents who think they have to tip 500, 1000, 2000, whatever, its fine, but not needed. Its something they do to be charitable. But, doing that, may be overpaying (to the girl's delight), and causes pain for the rest of us later (spoilage. The girls start getting pissy with someone who does not tip her).

Maybe a little off topic, but nevertheless: careful gentlemen, there is a team of pickpockets working at Fields and I can assure you that these three biniboys do know how to do their job! Unfortunately (for them! :)) they approached me yesterday night in front of Champagne and, define irony, just when the tourist police drove past. But before telling you about the yesterday's result it might be interesting for you to know how a professional pickpocketing works.

Again, three persons at work. The first one, 'the drawer' comes close to you, touches and hugs you while offering any service. The natural reaction from a victim would be to enlarge the distance between him and the thief. If you do so, or - even worse - run away, then your wallet is lifted automatically, provided that the pickpocket was able to get two (!) fingers into your pocket. The lifted wallet is then quickly handed over to the second guy, 'the courier' who passes by. After 10 meters the wallet goes to the third guy, 'the runner', who walks now in a different direction.

So, what happened to me yesterday? 'The drawer' approached me as described, but instead of running away I shortened the distance between him and me. That makes any lift a little more tricky (but of course not impossible). Moreover it was bad for the guy that he had hands like a digger. :) So, quite easy for me to 'block the way out of the pocket' with the forearm in order to secure my items.

However, since these guys did not pay me the adequate respect, I thought it might be an idea to teach them a slight lesson. Well, while securing my wallet I got two of my smooth, well-trained fingers into his pocket and when 'the drawer' quickly run away, because he f*cked it up, all of sudden his cellphone was lifted instead. Bad luck for him to realize this loss a little later and maybe even harder for him to accept that his last victim was indeed a much better pickpocket then he himself! :) BTW, many years ago I had indeed a little 'training' from a befriended magician.

Gentlemen, to make a long story short: be alert and watch your belongings! Especially if you are drunk these three guys are not to underestimate!

Cheers!


Hesekiels

[QUOTE=Hesekiels]Maybe a little off topic, but nevertheless: careful gentlemen, there is a team of pickpockets working at Fields and I can assure you that these three biniboys do know how to do their job! Unfortunately (for them! :)) they approached me yesterday night in front of Champagne and, define irony, just when the tourist police drove past. But before telling you about the yesterday's result it might be interesting for you to know how a professional pickpocketing works.

Again, three persons at work. The first one, 'the drawer' comes close to you, touches and hugs you while offering any service. The natural reaction from a victim would be to enlarge the distance between him and the thief. If you do so, or - even worse - run away, then your wallet is lifted automatically, provided that the pickpocket was able to get two (!) fingers into your pocket. The lifted wallet is then quickly handed over to the second guy, 'the courier' who passes by. After 10 meters the wallet goes to the third guy, 'the runner', who walks now in a different direction.

So, what happened to me yesterday? 'The drawer' approached me as described, but instead of running away I shortened the distance between him and me. That makes any lift a little more tricky (but of course not impossible). Moreover it was bad for the guy that he had hands like a digger. :) So, quite easy for me to 'block the way out of the pocket' with the forearm in order to secure my items.

However, since these guys did not pay me the adequate respect, I thought it might be an idea to teach them a slight lesson. Well, while securing my wallet I got two of my smooth, well-trained fingers into his pocket and when 'the drawer' quickly run away, because he f*cked it up, all of sudden his cellphone was lifted instead. Bad luck for him to realize this loss a little later and maybe even harder for him to accept that his last victim was indeed a much better pickpocket then he himself! :) BTW, many years ago I had indeed a little 'training' from a befriended magician.

Gentlemen, to make a long story short: be alert and watch your belongings! Especially if you are drunk these three guys are not to underestimate!

Cheers!


Hesekiels[/QUOTE]

Good for you, hope that fucker really misses that cell phone. I hope you made a lot of calls on that thing LOL

[QUOTE=Hesekiels]Maybe a little off topic, but nevertheless: careful gentlemen, there is a team of pickpockets working at Fields and I can assure you that these three biniboys do know how to do their job!.

However, since these guys did not pay me the adequate respect, I thought it might be an idea to teach them a slight lesson.[/QUOTE]This was a great result for you and I am glad it it turned out very well.

However, there are a couple of things to remember about these street-smart people.

- At least one of them will have some sort of weapon, like a knife, so it is highly risky to confront them because it can turn nasty if you corner one of them. Usually best to just skedaddle as fast as you can, and it doesn't mean you are a wimp either;

- You must assume now that they know who you are and what you look like so maybe you should get out of Dodge asap. You have a bull's eye painted on your back, and it won't matter if you are 10 foot tall and have been to the Jackie Chan karate school. Don't be misled into thinking that they will not remember you in 6 months or 12 month either.

Just a few thoughts.

Just my 2 cents on these two issues:

The hotel can certainly make a difference to whether or not a girl will go with you. When going after the top girls, they have THEIR pick of who they will sleep with. A nicer room equates to a richer customer, and since this is all about money, it obviously makes a difference. This is why one of the first questions they will ask is "where are you staying". Therefore I always stay in the best place my budget will allow.

I give a 500P tip in the morning, less if I was not happy with the performance. The only exception is if I am getting turned down by a girl (menstration or some other excuse) and I have to offer a higher a tip up front to get the girl to go with me. However, this is not common, and would estimate that I negotiate a higher tip up front with the girl about 10% of the time.

At the end of the day, we cannot make ourselves any younger or better looking, so our hotel and tip are two of the ways to convince a girl that you are their best bet for the night. Of course, the most important thing is to get the girl to like you, so above all, try not to come across as an asshole.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt]This was a great result for you and I am glad it it turned out very well.

However, there are a couple of things to remember about these street-smart people.[/QUOTE]RK:

Thanks for your concern and advice! However, the next days I continue with business as usual and I will update you guys if something happened. I do see indeed the kind of risk you have described, but I do not overestimate it. And for sure, you bet your life, that won't spoil my vacations in AC!

All pickpockets from AC are herewith happily invited to find out who the 'softer fingers' has! I am pretty certain that I will win this competion, because learned is learned!

Cheers!

Hesekiels

Hey guys,

Sorry if this is off topic, but I'll be arriving in AC on the 20 August and I am a bit worried about the weather forecasts, all showing thunderstorms everyday!

How is the weather right now? Does it rain all day? Can I have a dip in the pool or will I be stuck in my room 24/7!

Thanks in advance

Donald

To fufill a minor fetish, what is the assessment for picking a mom-to-be? I realise that they won't be dancing...!

Thoughts? harder/easier than Manila?

Cheers, Y

[QUOTE=Yendor]To fufill a minor fetish, what is the assessment for picking a mom-to-be? I realise that they won't be dancing...!

Thoughts? harder/easier than Manila?

Cheers, Y[/QUOTE]

No disrespect or sarcasm intended.
Hmmm why not check out the malls they seem to be teaming with new moms, moms to be, sisters etcetera... you get the point a closed mouth won't get fed.
Ask the girls if they got a pregnant friend.

Let the monger gods bless you. be safe and wrap that rascal.

[QUOTE=Yendor]To fufill a minor fetish, what is the assessment for picking a mom-to-be? I realise that they won't be dancing...!

Thoughts? harder/easier than Manila?

Cheers, Y[/QUOTE]
I have not seen any pregnant dancers atleast with visible bump apart from fat.
Most Bars send them home the moment they discover they are pregnant. However I have seen some pregnant waitresses and mamasans. Will they go with you? Maybe!
I have seen many pregnant girls in LA cafe. You would have had better chance to take them there if they were open.
Just handle the poor lady with care.

If you are looking for a pregnant dancer, Mexico is your best bet.

[QUOTE=Westcoast1]Yes, and no. But the obligatory drink is something I often save until after she's agreed to barfine. You can chat a girl for a few minutes without a drink before she gets up to go back and dance. Sitting at the stage is a MUCH better idea, the girls will come to you. Wink, smile, be happy with your drink.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, there's more than one way to find a friend for the evening. I hardly ever "point and click" anymore. It's more fun to play around with the format a little. So I agree, no you don't have to buy LD's to find out if the girl will go with you. I do usually buy a drink before I ask, but not always. I might try buying fewer next trip to see what happens.