Chat Rooms & Pen Pals

[QUOTE=X Man; 1337263]
Anyway, this is the chat / pen pal thread. Shall we try to get back on topic. Some of us use DIA because it's free and has results. I haven't used Cherry blossom in a while, but had some good results there. If anyone finds an Apple Enriquez from Cebu / Lapu, let me know. I have pictures. She left my room in the wee hours with some of my money.[/QUOTE]X Man,

I always take a portable safe with me. MasterLock makes one. It won't stop anyone with a set of tools, but a maid or the girl you bring back to your room can't get into it.

[QUOTE=Cheapy;1334997]Embarress them young. For sure.[/QUOTE]Not sure what you mean. Embarress?

Could be Spanish: Embarazo? Embarazo means pregnancy. The wish of many it seems. I haven't embarrassed any young Filipina (that I was not married with) , worried about it, yes, but in the end nothing. Some disappointment maybe, but not on my part.

Could be French: Embrasser? Embrasser means to kiss. Sometimes mistranslated, example from FilipinoCupid: "I want my future husband to kiss me every night before going to sleep", the automatic translation provided by FC gives baiser for to kiss. But baiser while quaint and poetic ordinarilly means to fuck. So FC translates into French the original English sentence in a way that really says "I want my future husband to fuck me every night before going to sleep", a reasonable wish for a new bride I suppose. For a while.

[QUOTE=X Man; 1337263]I have to admire Jackson, he puts up with a lot of st, but still bends over backwards when it comes to these kinds of things. V, play nice.

Anyway, this is the chat / pen pal thread. Shall we try to get back on topic. Some of us use DIA because it's free and has results. I haven't used Cherry blossom in a while, but had some good results there. If anyone finds an Apple Enriquez from Cebu / LapuLapu, let me know. I have pictures. .[/QUOTE]"bends over backwards?" Should it no be forwards? Oh, no of course, not in this context, sorry.

"she left my room in the wee hours with some of my money"? A very common occurrence to say the least. Oh, you mean while you were still asleep, did you pay her in advance, maybe she did not want to wake you up if you had forgotten, DIA lists her as 18, was she good? Maybe she thought so and somehow "tipped" herself? After all she let herself be photographed in a skimpy costume I suppose, chalk what you lost to her modeling fees.

Funny the number of girls who say that they are living in Lapu-Lapu, I wonder why, the proximity of the airport and the "resorts", the industrial plants and their workers? That's it! She was on an early shift and while she really wanted to greet you with a loving "magandang umaga" (actually more likely "maayong buntag", wasn't she cebuana?) if not a regular "good, morning, sir" with benefits, she had to leave asap. Better luck next time with Peach Rosario.

[QUOTE=Hibukhibok; 1337426]"bends over backwards?" Should it no be forwards? Oh, no of course, not in this context, sorry.

"she left my room in the wee hours with some of my money"? A very common occurrence to say the least. Oh, you mean while you were still asleep, did you pay her in advance, maybe she did not want to wake you up if you had forgotten, DIA lists her as 18, was she good? Maybe she thought so and somehow "tipped" herself? After all she let herself be photographed in a skimpy costume I suppose, chalk what you lost to her modeling fees.

Funny the number of girls who say that they are living in Lapu-Lapu, I wonder why, the proximity of the airport and the "resorts", the industrial plants and their workers? That's it! She was on an early shift and while she really wanted to greet you with a loving "magandang umaga" (actually more likely "maayong buntag", wasn't she cebuana?) if not a regular "good, morning, sir" with benefits, she had to leave asap. Better luck next time with Peach Rosario.[/QUOTE]Is there something to learn from this post? I doubt it. I do believe you have had many many "next times" after that one.

[QUOTE=Hibukhibok; 1337407]Not sure what you mean. Embarress?

Could be Spanish: Embarazo? Embarazo means pregnancy. The wish of many it seems. I haven't embarrassed any young Filipina (that I was not married with) , worried about it, yes, but in the end nothing. Some disappointment maybe, but not on my part.

Could be French: Embrasser? Embrasser means to kiss. Sometimes mistranslated, example from FilipinoCupid: "I want my future husband to kiss me every night before going to sleep", the automatic translation provided by FC gives baiser for to kiss. But baiser while quaint and poetic ordinarilly means to fuck. So FC translates into French the original English sentence in a way that really says "I want my future husband to fuck me every night before going to sleep", a reasonable wish for a new bride I suppose. For a while.[/QUOTE]For proper translation, look under your stomach and between your legs. That's embraress.

I have 10 girls lined up for four days in Manila. I expect that at least a few of them will actually show up at my hotel to have sex with me. Indeed, I am worried about getting rid of each girl to make room for the next one. Fortunately, they are all real beauties (IMHO).

Here is the question. I have read a lot of the Philippine's section on ISG, and think (but I am not certain) that the proper donation for a DIA / pinalove girl is 1500 for a few hours of pleasure and 2500 for overnight. I actually do not care if the cost is double that, but I do care that I can give the girl her "present" without a scene. Of course, women are women, and a scene over money is ALWAYS a possibility, even in the most straight forward P4P.

Would anyone care to comment on my target cost for a woman in Manila?

Many thanks F.

P. S. I also pay for taxi to my hotel. I tell them to text me or have the front desk call me when they arrive. In that way (at least in other countries like the Dom Rep) , they tend to show up only one or two hours late!

You are right on target with your numbers for an Indy in Manila.

[QUOTE=Forest; 1338528]I have 10 girls lined up for four days in Manila. I expect that at least a few of them will actually show up at my hotel to have sex with me. Indeed, I am worried about getting rid of each girl to make room for the next one. Fortunately, they are all real beauties (IMHO).

Here is the question. I have read a lot of the Philippine's section on ISG, and think (but I am not certain) that the proper donation for a DIA / pinalove girl is 1500 for a few hours of pleasure and 2500 for overnight. I actually do not care if the cost is double that, but I do care that I can give the girl her "present" without a scene. Of course, women are women, and a scene over money is ALWAYS a possibility, even in the most straight forward P4P.

Would anyone care to comment on my target cost for a woman in Manila?

Many thanks F.

P. S. I also pay for taxi to my hotel. I tell them to text me or have the front desk call me when they arrive. In that way (at least in other countries like the Dom Rep) , they tend to show up only one or two hours late![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Forest;1338528]1500 for a few hours of pleasure and 2500 for overnight.[/QUOTE]That amount is plenty. It would be best to slip the money in their purse upon departure time instead of stuffing the cash in their face.

[quote=forest;1338528]p. s. i also pay for taxi to my hotel. i tell them to text me or have the front desk call me when they arrive. in that way (at least in other countries like the dom rep) , they tend to show up only one or two hours late![/quote]you obviously have tried this before elsewhere but in the philippines not all of these dia (or any other dating site) girls are innocent, lonely souls desperately wanting to meet you for sex and money.

i have heard 2 cases in the past week where a dating site girl was being pimped by her husband / boyfriend who were looking to find ways to maximise their family income.

in one case, the husband called the guy while his wife was with him in the hotel and threatened to bring the police to the room and charge him with adultery unless he handed over 12, 000 php to the girl. the wife and hubby were working together and obviously knew the legal situation very well. the guy freaked out and complied as he didn't want any hassles and complications, especially when the "wife" said she would call security and accuse him of trying to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] her.

a second case had the girl letting the boyfriend (with a big knife) into the room after 10 minutes of her being there and he lost his laptop, camera, cellphone and cash. they were 2 professionals who knew how to avoid cctvs etc and get out of the hotel undetected.

now this is probably only a small percentage of the instances each day where girls meet guys but for forest to have 10 girls trooping in and out in 4 days i see the possibility of several things going wrong and a train wreck resulting if even one of them turns out to be pissed off about something. in ac, the chances of this happening in a monger hotel are much lower i assume.

i suggest meeting any female visitor in a coffee shop to check her (or "him") out before you let them know where you are staying. if you like to live dangerously then go for it, but remember, as i said in my first paragraph, not all these girls are innocent little submissives.

i, personally, never let an unknown woman into my hotel room as i have too much to lose. much better to meet first-time in short-time places like sogo where security is much stricter and there are rarely misunderstandings about why you are there.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1338612]You obviously have tried this before elsewhere but in the Philippines not all of these DIA (or any other dating site) girls are innocent, lonely souls desperately wanting to meet you for sex and money.

I have heard 2 cases in the past week where a dating site girl was being pimped by her husband / boyfriend who were looking to find ways to maximise their family income.[/QUOTE]These may be isolated cases but your advice is sound. My hotel is my home away from home and I like to know who I am inviting in.

Slim

[QUOTE=Hibukhibok; 1332024]Hello. Am rosejean. Am very nice and honest girl. Not like other girls who are liar.

I do have 2 Filipino boyfriends but none of them have any income, so am searching foreigners for help.

There is no problem if you want to meet me here as long you are able to help me. I will do all your services.

I started work in bar as a bargirl when I was 15 in manila. Then at age 16, I was bargirl in cebu and when I was 17, I was bargirl in pampanga, angeles city.

I hope this year 2012 will be a good year for me.

You see am not a liar girl like others, I just want to survive.

Am sorry that I can`t love foreign man, I only love my Filipino buys.

I hope you all understand me becos sometimes I don`t understand myself.

You can also visit my other profile here, with name; Rosejean!

I want to meet understanding men and very kind. I like excitment so better you have girlfriend or are married.

Age and look are not important to me but you need to love me every minutt and every day we spend together in bed. I hope you are very good hearted to give me expencive gifts etc becos I don`why have anything.

So grab the chance if you want to try a girl who is not like others!

Her other profile is much less explicit, but marriage is mentioned.

In both profiles she wants children.

Actually I like this girl, her frankness and sincerity are most refreshing.

Of course her Filipino BFs are pimping her, poor girl.

A girl like no other indeed.[/QUOTE]Along the same line, andreagonsalez 28 / F, of Manila.

On her fff profile she writes:

"ill be honest from the start,

I am doing naked cam show to survive, because I am living alone and need 2 support my self.

But I am am also looking for my right man to love me and accept me for who I am and not for who I pretend to.

My Ideal Person: man who is understanding and willing 2 accept me for who I am will be enough,"

[quote=red kilt; 1338612]you obviously have tried this before elsewhere but in the philippines not all of these dia (or any other dating site) girls are innocent, lonely souls desperately wanting to meet you for sex and money.

i have heard 2 cases in the past week where a dating site girl was being pimped by her husband / boyfriend who were looking to find ways to maximise their family income.

in one case, the husband called the guy while his wife was with him in the hotel and threatened to bring the police to the room and charge him with adultery unless he handed over 12, 000 php to the girl. the wife and hubby were working together and obviously knew the legal situation very well. the guy freaked out and complied as he didn't want any hassles and complications, especially when the "wife" said she would call security and accuse him of trying to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] her.

a second case had the girl letting the boyfriend (with a big knife) into the room after 10 minutes of her being there and he lost his laptop, camera, cellphone and cash. they were 2 professionals who knew how to avoid cctvs etc and get out of the hotel undetected.

now this is probably only a small percentage of the instances each day where girls meet guys but for forest to have 10 girls trooping in and out in 4 days i see the possibility of several things going wrong and a train wreck resulting if even one of them turns out to be pissed off about something. in ac, the chances of this happening in a monger hotel are much lower i assume.

i suggest meeting any female visitor in a coffee shop to check her (or "him") out before you let them know where you are staying. if you like to live dangerously then go for it, but remember, as i said in my first paragraph, not all these girls are innocent little submissives.

i, personally, never let an unknown woman into my hotel room as i have too much to lose. much better to meet first-time in short-time places like sogo where security is much stricter and there are rarely misunderstandings about why you are there.[/quote]yes, my strategy is based on experience with semi/"non" pros in other countries.

i usually meet my girls in the bar of my hotel and talk with them for a while before heading to my room. i never have them meet me in my room. it is simply a matter of style, not a precautionary thing, but i like to meet them in public. this approach is absolutely necessary for the occasional case where the girl appears to be **** (the borderline girls are quickly sent away). many times, we go out to eat before getting nasty. all 10 of my potential dates have agreed to have sex, but nevertheless, at least a few are likely to balk at diving into bed like straight-forward prostitutes. some type of gentle reassurance / seduction may be necessary and is part of the fun. of course, i do not really think i will have time for 10 girls; i have ten lined up so i do not waste time calling numbers where no one answers. and, i still have the option of going to burgos if things get slow. my guess is that in 4 nights, i will actually meet 2 or 3 of the girls i have lined up, taken advantage of burgos street massage places for 2-3 blow jobs and will fuck one p4p girl from a burgos street bar.

as for the threat of blackmailing spouses with knives, i am not quite certain how to eliminate it, assuming rk is correct that this is really a concern. even if i take a girl out for dinner and drinks, she can always text her blackmailing spouse my location when we get back to the hotel (i am staying at a 5 star hotel in makati with security, so her husband is not likely to simply show up at my door with a knife). anything is possible i guess, but i take precautions, i always use the safe, i quickly get rid of girls who seem crazy (i have had a few start screaming about sexual imperialism precisely at the time when they should have been putting my dick in their mouths. these experiences were very sobering) , i always ask the girl to register, etc. but, even the best plans can go wrong. nevertheless, i prefer the semi / non- pro to the full time pro, and dia and pinalove are good ways to find such girls.

How do you know Peach Rosario?

[QUOTE=Hibukhibok; 1337426.

BIG SNIP.

"maayong buntag", wasn't she cebuana?) if not a regular "good, morning, sir" with benefits, she had to leave asap. Better luck next time with Peach Rosario.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Forest;1338702]As for the threat of blackmailing spouses with knives, I am not quite certain how to eliminate it, assuming RK is correct that this is really a concern. Even if I take a girl out for dinner and drinks, she can always text her blackmailing spouse my location when we get back to the hotel (I am staying at a 5 star hotel in Makati with security, so her husband is not likely to simply show up at my door with a knife). Anything is possible I guess, but I take precautions, I always use the safe, I quickly get rid of girls who seem crazy (I have had a few start screaming about sexual imperialism precisely at the time when they should have been putting my dick in their mouths. These experiences were very sobering) , I always ask the girl to register, etc. But, even the best plans can go wrong. Nevertheless, I prefer the semi / non- pro to the full time pro, and DIA and pinalove are good ways to find such girls.[/QUOTE]I am glad you went on to explain your approach more clearly F.

You expanded on your original post. I pictured girls arriving at reception and coming straight up to the room. You obviously vet them a lot more than that.

I also note that you accept that maybe only 2 or 3 of the DIA girls will come through. I think that's about the right percentage.

I agree that my 2 anecdotes about risks were extreme and unlikely to happen on a daily basis but they actually happened and I think it helps to have a jolt of reality now and again about what MIGHT or COULD happen if you drop your guard or are too naive about filipinas. I must add that a MAJORITY of them are harmless and sweet; it's the OTHER ones you have to worry about.

the origins of this exchange indicate that these things happened in manila. is that correct? is it possible to name the hotels? i've had a "problem" in cebu in the last six months and i feel it was organized. nothing as aggressive as what rk suggests, but maybe the situation was more dynamic than my original assesment.

[quote=red kilt; 1338612]you obviously have tried this before elsewhere but in the philippines not all of these dia (or any other dating site) girls are innocent, lonely souls desperately wanting to meet you for sex and money.

i have heard 2 cases in the past week where a dating site girl was being pimped by her husband / boyfriend who were looking to find ways to maximise their family income.

in one case, the husband called the guy while his wife was with him in the hotel and threatened to bring the police to the room and charge him with adultery unless he handed over 12, 000 php to the girl. the wife and hubby were working together and obviously knew the legal situation very well. the guy freaked out and complied as he didn't want any hassles and complications, especially when the "wife" said she would call security and accuse him of trying to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] her.

a second case had the girl letting the boyfriend (with a big knife) into the room after 10 minutes of her being there and he lost his laptop, camera, cellphone and cash. they were 2 professionals who knew how to avoid cctvs etc and get out of the hotel undetected.

now this is probably only a small percentage of the instances each day where girls meet guys but for forest to have 10 girls trooping in and out in 4 days i see the possibility of several things going wrong and a train wreck resulting if even one of them turns out to be pissed off about something. in ac, the chances of this happening in a monger hotel are much lower i assume.

i suggest meeting any female visitor in a coffee shop to check her (or "him") out before you let them know where you are staying. if you like to live dangerously then go for it, but remember, as i said in my first paragraph, not all these girls are innocent little submissives.

i, personally, never let an unknown woman into my hotel room as i have too much to lose. much better to meet first-time in short-time places like sogo where security is much stricter and there are rarely misunderstandings about why you are there.[/quote]