Colombia is magic Realism, it's a lifetimes experience! At least 1 month!
[QUOTE=Huacho;2828490]If you are getting prices in Colombia that equat to 100 and 200 euro, you are looking in the wrong place. Colombia is much, much cheaper than Spain (if you stay out of Gusto's) but it's also much, much more dangerous. But, you have the time and cost of the flight, so you'd need probably at least a week or ten days to break even on the sex. Spain has women from all over the world and Colombia has women from Colombia and Venezuela. Would I go to Colombia if I lived in the UK? No. If I was sick of Spain I would go to Bratislava. Lots of really great looking women there, although a totally different look from the latinas.[/QUOTE]Colombia is a lot cheaper, but to break even and also do the other things museeums, resturants, Toro at Macarena (or is it banned), a lot of places. Bogota is cold, but around the capital there are valleys that a at low altitude and hence warm, 25-35 Celcius, go there w a girl or 2, it's like what santiago de Antioquia is for Medellin. 2 weeks is to short for me, one month at least. Avoid overpriced areas as Poblado. In Laureles, the hugh middle-class area, prices for any service is much lower, the same quality of girls, resturants and AUTENTIC. Poblado feels ARTIFICAL.
Poblado; paisa friends said it's new rich, criminals and overpriced prepagos who excell there, so the "old" money moved to other areas. All prepagos think Poblado is top, for me it's a red flag, why pay Western Europe prices in Colombia?, I never go there, I speak Spanish so I prefer laureles, Estadio or even centro.
Madrid is a fantastic city; medellin canˇt compete with that, but has a ace; it's always, 365 days a year, 25 celcius. No winter, spring, autumn, always summer, , even if it is called City of the eternal spring (25 is like July in Europe, not March / April).
I find colombian people, especially girls can be so life-loving, easy-going, even so that Quebec wants electronic-engineers from Colombia since they adapt culturally so easily!
Spanish people also good in Madrid.
Colombia; many places are not used to tourist, they have not learnt how to charge more, "the gringo-premium", easy to get friends. But in established places they ONLY think gringo=$.
Colombia tourist agency slogan; "the risk is that you don't want to leave!" it's very true.
Prepago-friend. If a prepago likes you, you can get a good discount, go out as a couple.
I have have met both Barracudas and Angels. You notice easily if she is a Barracuda, but the problem it's excting with dangerous females, donne pericolose.
My friends GF was dangerous and did crazy things, but he always came back to here since she was always unpredictable.
All in all, Colombia (and VNZ used to be even better but are now gone as a destination but can come back if we need their oil on a huge scale, which is a probable scenario w sanctions against Russia and the Russian oil production not can be exported since all experts has left, there production will fall and must be replaced, so VNZ might be welcomed anew into the global society and by doing so getting rid of all debt's they own Russia and China, hehehe, partly according to peter Z)).
Just for the experience.
I know nomads that are nerds and live in Colombia on tourist / student visa and get paid from their Western company, as working from home, just that living costs, prepago costs are like 22% of that in UK and then it's money well spend, which €200-300 is a really crazy price which US / Europe guys pay. I earn €300 net a day x 22 a month. €300 for 1 hour vs 8 hours at the office. It's a bad deal.
Medellin economy is growing very fastly
[QUOTE=BlueChange;2828346]I have to say hands down it is the apartments. The apartments in Medellin are sooo overpriced for Airbnb. Not only for daily but monthly as well. You get way way more bang for your buck in Bogota for housing. It isn't even keeping up with inflation. Places that were 500-600 a month are now 1400 a month in less then 2 years time. I could see if it went up to like 900 or someting but to have it more then double and ONLY in medellin is insanity. It sucks and I don't think it will change unless Colombia puts in a law of some sort.[/QUOTE]Medellin is like barcelona or milan, turin, they have a entrepreneurial gene.
When voilence now is not pressing down economic activity, growth pops-up by itself, also like Beirut!
Liberal culture, easy to do business, easy to get females.
Bogotá is stagnating, it have had a long period of growth but now macro factors are pointing in the wrong direction.
A paia friend have been buying 3 apartments the last decade and he runs a small resturant and they are now worth 300 k COP each, at least 100% growth since 2015.
The resturant pays the bills, the pension, richness comes from his apartments. And not having time to spend them on casinos or prepagos, his novia is a beauty but very hard discling him!
The whole motoway / freewy access to Rio Grande Airport, and other areas are filled with new de luxe.
They say 50% of emplyed people in Medellin are informal, 85% in he rural areas around, so GNP / capita etc is hard to estimate.
Moving money to tax paradises.
65-75% are truly hard working and poor, 10-20% are just rake home the profits.
The optimism, this gives growth, 2000-2019 people in absolute poverty fell by 1% by year from 30% to 10% in medellin.
Still many have a life =all waking hours are working hours! . Monday to Sunday.
But it's also a human phenomonen, migration. Latin people March from Brazil to USA. It's a thing humans do.
Living ouside medellin, in marinilla, which is close or guarne, very chill, good air everything.
2013; in sabaneta; a paisa friend measured the airquality, it was bad, today it's cancer. Provoking, an un espected side effect of frequent mongering.
Take your IT newwork and work from home, get paid from your company in US / Europe, bu live or spend much time outside the major cities and use sun-protection, maybe even more important than condoms!
True, but with modifications.
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2828331]I have been traveling everywhere in Colombia for decades and now living full time in Medellin for almost 10 years, so "been there and done that", heck I have experienced more than what many visitors and even most expats will never or could never comprehend.
The Ibiza is a good suggestion and just know that if your a single gringo in Medellin there is no escaping the stereotype that your a sex tourist, 1000% end of story. The hotel your at and as your walking in the street or in a store or a mall every Colombian that you come across sees you as a visiting sex tourist, but don't worry because they could care less.
Have fun!
TTM.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2828331]I have been traveling everywhere in Colombia for decades and now living full time in Medellin for almost 10 years, so "been there and done that", heck I have experienced more than what many visitors and even most expats will never or could never comprehend.
The Ibiza is a good suggestion and just know that if your a single gringo in Medellin there is no escaping the stereotype that your a sex tourist, 1000% end of story. The hotel your at and as your walking in the street or in a store or a mall every Colombian that you come across sees you as a visiting sex tourist, but don't worry because they could care less.
Have fun!
TTM.[/QUOTE]I agree, but when you have learned the lingo and can communicate fluently; this "sex-turist" factor becomes a minor factor.
But 95% don't speak Spanish or rudimentary.
I learn this by avoiding anglosaxon and other light skinned people and where they hang and got my own oscial phere, with foreigners, but they are a majority and they also speak Spanish.
Then again; people doesn't care so much in medellin, all men go to prepagos. All married men I know in Colombia gos to prepagos. You can even discuss which clubs or girls which are the best with your professors in Spanish at La UPB!
I would say; if you don't hunt females, for relationship or sex or both, then you are considered gay or strange!
The females except you to attack you when opportunity given, colombian or gringo!
Sometimes I feel paisa females are even more into getting sex than men. They think like, a good fxxx + some money, married or not!
Those of us who come from countries where poor hygiene has been the norm, where we haven't had access to hot baths, have developed a fear of touch.
Colombian women are meticulous about their and your hygiene, but we from cold countries have a kind of anxiety about physical touch.
Probably because thousands of years of touching has been contagious.
My teacher in Medellin who often lives in the US said "if I had hugged and kissed my American girlfriends like I do my Colombian ones, I would have gone to jail!
Greg / Mansion "charge to much"
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2828328]The mansion would probably not meet your requirements, it is nothing like a brothel where there are a variety of girls wandering around that you choose from. These are working girls from their own places that come in to the hotel, not in any way employed or controlled by the hotel, and may be available. During the day there may only be a very few or none sometimes. You say "plenty of girls". That will never be the case. Anything between none and maybe 6? I have not stayed there recently but during the day it was only a few around. At night they come into the bar next door, same as they might in any bar, and try to get business that way. It is a small bar so anything over 6 girls would be a lot. If you have very specific requirements I can almost guarantee there will never be one or two. Of course I have no idea what you consider medium quality or your type.[/QUOTE]A girl said she wanted no relationship with me, she wanted to be single. But alng the conversation, "I'm like that, I don't want a BF". I asked about th mansion. "No, Greg / Mansion charges too much", besides the fee they take for the room the Mansion demands extra money from the girls, but officially they deny it.
Just her comment was so spontanous, like it was like there where no point going there for here and she was a HOT girl, mayby not a 10 but looking like a very sexy blond american pornstar with brown eyes.
Medellin v peru v Argentina
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2828233]Brother TK you are so right. During my first trip to Medellin I was actually disappointed by the way the girls looked. Yes, there were a few stunners out there. But all the hype I had read about Medellin and the girls of Colombia simply was not true according to a "boots on the ground" observation with my own eyes.
That being said, there is going to be someone who jumps up (beats their chest and calls me names because I am new to the Medellin forum and have strong opinions they disagree with)' and tells me to go someplace else if I don't like it. And to them I just put two middle fingers up! I'll go where I want, when I want and write what want about it.) [B]I had a great trip![/B] And I got all the sex I wanted. And I learned that I simply prefer the skin shade of my girls to be butterscotch to dark chocolate. And to have some ass. Because the most beautiful Colombianas that I saw looked like that.
So it is off to Cali at some point to explore a place I have been told has more of girls of my preferred type. The girls of Medellin that I saw on the street fell on the numeric attractiveness scale that would fit a Standard Deviation curve. A beauty standard that I have found to be consistent the world over. In my opinion, the girls of Medellin are no more attractive or less attractive than I have found during my travels throughout the world.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2828233]Brother TK you are so right. During my first trip to Medellin I was actually disappointed by the way the girls looked. Yes, there were a few stunners out there. But all the hype I had read about Medellin and the girls of Colombia simply was not true according to a "boots on the ground" observation with my own eyes.
That being said, there is going to be someone who jumps up (beats their chest and calls me names because I am new to the Medellin forum and have strong opinions they disagree with)' and tells me to go someplace else if I don't like it. And to them I just put two middle fingers up! I'll go where I want, when I want and write what want about it.) [B]I had a great trip![/B] And I got all the sex I wanted. And I learned that I simply prefer the skin shade of my girls to be butterscotch to dark chocolate. And to have some ass. Because the most beautiful Colombianas that I saw looked like that.
So it is off to Cali at some point to explore a place I have been told has more of girls of my preferred type. The girls of Medellin that I saw on the street fell on the numeric attractiveness scale that would fit a Standard Deviation curve. A beauty standard that I have found to be consistent the world over. In my opinion, the girls of Medellin are no more attractive or less attractive than I have found during my travels throughout the world.[/QUOTE]No.
I lived in Arequipa for a semester and studied. The best looking prepagos where Colombianas, which came there since they simply look so much better on avergae.
A friend moved from medellin to Lima, "all men are so ugly here".
A good paisa friend " the girls in Buenos Aires", where his son studied art, "have faces like horses", long-faced.
But yes, 50-60% are normal or ugly in Medellin.
Before we all get nuked, the russian and ukrainian girls!
In Africa, girls, and men also, from somalia / etiopia / Eritrea, tall, slim, tall necks, long thin arms and legs, they are simply very beautiful, good looking faces too, like black-barbies.
But I have had 4 10-GF in Peru. In my local gym hee at home, there are very few girls, one are a latina; she is awesome, and she is from Peru.
But I remember, if you been in the old center in Arequipa, with resturants all around on 3-5-7 floor. I thought, I will good looking girl; there where zero! During eating a lunch or dinner daytime! Maybe one, she was awesome, the waitress, but 99% she was from Colombia.
I went to big casa in Arequipa, but it was closed, but the guys let me in for a beer. Especially then I understood, in Peru "Colombiana" means good looking girl!
