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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2577660]You really didn't impress me for your cleverness, from what you showed and told me when I didn't ask you anything, but you knew I was her regular on her start on end of February 2016 , and you needed to tell me. But after 1 month, when she claimed in the club she was my number 1, I had to choose Megan and I never regretted, keeping on with Megan who is a bit prettier and much less crazy.[/QUOTE]Bravo for you. In fucked for free.
[QUOTE]That's straight academia and does not happen in reality. There will be evolutionary pressure both ways, naturally or through vaccination. Gravitation will be towards more infectious and less pathogenic sure, but natural pressure will cause more variants and if left unchecked, odds will be that the same pathogenicity would eventually arise. In the mean time, more mortality due to longer time variable. Vaccination if meeting critical mass, actually gives us a shot of nipping it in the bud and actually stops the pandemic before the death toll is too great.[/QUOTE]You can nip it in the butt, if it prevent transmission. It does not, it lower the transmission.
[QUOTE]The last paragraph is straight boloney and makes a connection without actually connecting the dots. It's an attempt to sound knowledgeable. Vague comment that uses clinical terms but actually doesn't make sense.[/QUOTE]The dots is the vaccine allow vaccinated people to get infected and transmit it to unvaccinated people. Because it does not prevent infection, therefore, antibody is sub optimal. Thus allow for selection in the body. If you still don't get it at this point, I don't know. Go back and take high school biology. Read the section on evolution by natural selection.
[QUOTE]Lastly, explain your theory in regards to Polio and measles. Why does it not apply? Both are faster mutating RNA viruses. Vaccines were / are quite effective for them. No super lethal measle or polio came to be. No vaccines completely stamps out transmission. They reduce transmission at the population level. (That's another clue that you're kinda fluffing your post).[/QUOTE]Other vaccine prevent transmission. These covid vaccine reduce transmission. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that reduce transmission is all bad. There is a time and place for it. None of the condition have been met to use these vaccine.
[QUOTE]Science people spreading science misinformation is worse than layman's nonsensical ramblings. Reader should not credit someone with basic academic knowledge with a working knowledge of epidemiology and population level virology.[/QUOTE]This is where I agree with you, there is serious misinformation. If you meet me or any of the virologist that I know, we will tell you that the covid vaccine is great! You should take it. No one dare to say anything different. Privately, everyone is saying that escape of adaptive immunity is a issue. Now what is the consequences, well it is not good. However, is it neutral or a catastrophe, or somewhere in between? This is the part that make me shit in my pant. Humanity already decided to fuck with a system so complex, that a human brain have no way of even guessing what will happen next.
Now, all of this is a moot point because it is too late. Too many people have been vaccinate already. Sooner or later the unvaccinated people will suffer the same consequences as the vaccinated people. I hope the consequence will be neutral.
[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2577749]You are just embarrassing yourself. You think that you have more disposable cash available, what has that got to do with anything.[/QUOTE]The money flaunting, that's the kind of thing you expect to hear from a 30 year old financial, investment "Bro", not a seasoned man in his 50's or 60's.
[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2577928]You can nip it in the butt, if it prevent transmission. It does not, it lower the transmission.[/QUOTE]That's true, I agree. And it's nothing to write off, especially in a worldwide state of emergency.
[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2577928]The dots is the vaccine allow vaccinated people to get infected and transmit it to unvaccinated people. Because it does not prevent infection, therefore, antibody is sub optimal. Thus allow for selection in the body. If you still don't get it at this point, I don't know. Go back and take high school biology. Read the section on evolution by natural selection.[/QUOTE]If recommending others to brush up on textbook "high school" science, I implore you to brush up on graduate level Public Health. These comments seem to be written from the view of someone approaching this in theoretical silo rather than actual practice.
Re: Sub-optimal? I'm not even sure what that is supposed to mean at the tangible level. Stopping transmission at the individual level is never the expectation of vaccination programs. It is always evaluated at the population level. Reduction in pathogen transmission is always evaluated with the goal of reaching herd immunity, not with the practically impossible goal of completely stopping transmission from a single person to another. Again, laboratory / academia versus real world practice.
[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2577928]Other vaccine prevent transmission. These covid vaccine reduce transmission. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that reduce transmission is all bad. There is a time and place for it. None of the condition have been met to use these vaccine.[/QUOTE]Name one vaccine that stops transmission completely. What conditions? Worldwide state of emergency is not a condition? Again, real world practice was theoretical ideals.
[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2577928]This is where I agree with you, there is serious misinformation. If you meet me or any of the virologist that I know, we will tell you that the covid vaccine is great! You should take it. No one dare to say anything different. Privately, everyone is saying that escape of adaptive immunity is a issue. Now what is the consequences, well it is not good. However, is it neutral or a catastrophe, or somewhere in between? This is the part that make me shit in my pant. Humanity already decided to fuck with a system so complex, that a human brain have no way of even guessing what will happen next.
Now, all of this is a moot point because it is too late. Too many people have been vaccinate already. Sooner or later the unvaccinated people will suffer the same consequences as the vaccinated people. I hope the consequence will be neutral.[/QUOTE]Again, real world evaluation in necessary. It is the decision between dealing with the immediate effect of perpetual lockdowns and uncontrolled death versus the possible effect of a future super virus. All of your proposed theories of future variants apply to both natural and artificial selection through vaccines. Artificial selection through vaccination does not stop evolutionary drift of the viral mutation moving towards escaping host defenses. The only difference is that mass vaccination would speed up the selection timeline. We would have to deal with future variants one way or another. With the vaccination, we solve the immediate problem rather than just sitting on our hands and feet while society crumbles.
Half the reason I left research science and moved into clinical medicine was because of mindsets like this. Real world usefulness versus theoretical but effectively, impractical near-term use.
Theoretical and real world practical?
How about we listen to the people who are right and stop listening to the people who are wrong?
Florida and Texas proof that the "real world public health experts" was wrong, wrong, wrong. There was no reason for the shut down. If anything, I kind of think that they should now shut down because too many people already got the vaccine. But I guess I'm been theoretical.
Who is right, the FLCC doctors are right, right, right. They was the first to give their patient dexamethasone. And the world belittle them for it. Now, well dexamethasone is standard of care. Those guy are real world practical, having to treat sick people everyday and not some dude in the lab or behind the desk.
[QUOTE=DecentDude;2577789]Hi all,
I am a newbie to the NRW region (previously been to the Frankfurt FKKs many times). Which FKKs would you recommend visiting in the region? And where would you base yourself in a hotel for a multi day trip? Cologne? Thanks![/QUOTE]For my advice, but at least I visited since reopening, I m not Asian or US coming once a year and who didn't come since 1 year and half, meaning knowing just nothing, highest potential at the moment is Samya Koln on Friday and Saturday evenings with no upselling and for best looks. I could also try Aca Gold where can sometimes find a beauty, PHG for potential at night if You are able to manage without rules. I will return to Oase of course, where usually potential and I don t need rules but I like to play with my talent. Sharks casting on early July was so disappointing for looks, wish will improve. Can sometimes find a beauty at Finca or Bab. Not so bad.
[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2577752]Responding here, trying to keep the Globe thread less polluted with BS from the land of bullshits. Virginia didn't DFK her first few days in Globe, but a few days later she did. It might be that on that Saturday she would only DFK guys who brushed their teeth.
I told you several times, my grandmother cycles faster than you. I have seen her cycling, while you obviously just make up things in your head.
Remember how you keep saying that weight is everything in cycling? How was it that Wout van Aert (77 kg) dropped Kenny Elissonde (52 kg) on the Ventoux at the head of the race? Did your head explode?[/QUOTE]Because you never visited any German club, not even Freubad, nor Cleo, nor Zeus, but you play ghost here since months, when all those who ever saw me, know I'm really not a ghost, so I preferred to answer you on your home club, then everybody can judge there, about your posts proving your lies about Virginia or new Swiss girl when you don't know who she is, but you wrote not your type, not interesting, when I m fully sure you paid 140/30 for Virginia, without kissing, on your single room with her, waiting for CIM to repeat as you wrote, even not so cute, when she told many guys don't ask to kiss. So obvious. At least, when she told me and told about only 80 rate, I didn't insist, I just didn't go, even for 80, when I don't go in Germany for 50 nor even 40 . When I only go to climb highest ranked, when W V AERT was not 77 kgs yesterday, easy to see even tall, rather than believing all data and behaving like a faker here, just learn about Newton whose apple talked. I will be on 2 October at the bottom for Verbier, for US, then you can make your strava, or follow me, when I m never a ghost, but topless to be lighter. Also learn about Colin Chapman for race cars, Newton best student, for light is right. Except if you want to play Sumo of course, but then you are at big risk to die.
[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2578039]Theoretical and real world practical?
How about we listen to the people who are right and stop listening to the people who are wrong?
Florida and Texas proof that the "real world public health experts" was wrong, wrong, wrong. There was no reason for the shut down. If anything, I kind of think that they should now shut down because too many people already got the vaccine. But I guess I'm been theoretical.
Who is right, the FLCC doctors are right, right, right. They was the first to give their patient dexamethasone. And the world belittle them for it. Now, well dexamethasone is standard of care. Those guy are real world practical, having to treat sick people everyday and not some dude in the lab or behind the desk.[/QUOTE]There were literally semi trucks used as morgues in Texas Hospitals. Medical personnel were dispatched in mass along with the National Guard. Tents were erected to treat the sick.
Proof? I don't know what world in which you live but my 2 weeks in Texas was entirely different than the picture you paint.
It would have been much worse if it it wasn't for the fact that Texas and Florida are two of the larger states in the USA with a geographically dispersed population. The cities were a completely different story as Houston, El Paso, and Miami saw ridiculous death tolls with only the large rural population bringing down the average to make numbers look better for the state as whole. If it wasn't for the fact that the heavily populated cities in Texas and Florida enforced restrictions, we would have had NYC type scenarios.
You have no idea what happened in the real world to be telling people about COVID care especially making the statement that Decadron is the standard of care as if it is a single miracle medication. We used steroids like this since one day one just as we would any inflammatory condition. No one was belittling decadron use.
Do you even know how it works? It is only an adjunct symptomatic treatment used in the early stages of care and has no effect once the inflammatory phase is over. The only standard of care was symptomatic treatment, early prevention of viral replication, and then supporting organ function as the person must naturally recover.
So please, take your laboratory science education elsewhere and stop talking about things in which you have no first hand knowledge.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2578047]For my advice, but at least I visited since reopening, I m not Asian or US coming once a year and who didn't come since 1 year and half, meaning knowing just nothing,[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Sirioja;2578060]Because you never visited any German club, not even Freubad, nor Cleo, nor Zeus, but you play ghost here since months, [/QUOTE] You complain here about guys not being in Germany and not being real yet you make about 30 posts per day in the Thailand forum with your many fake handles when it's obvious from your posts that you've never even been to Thailand!
Also, stop PM'ing me with your fake handles. I know they're all you!
Bit Siri.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2578047]For my advice, but at least I visited since reopening, I m not Asian or US coming once a year and who didn't come since 1 year and half, meaning knowing just nothing, highest potential at the moment is Samya Koln on Friday and Saturday evenings with no upselling and for best looks. I could also try Aca Gold where can sometimes find a beauty, PHG for potential at night if You are able to manage without rules. I will return to Oase of course, where usually potential and I don t need rules but I like to play with my talent. Sharks casting on early July was so disappointing for looks, wish will improve. Can sometimes find a beauty at Finca or Bab. Not so bad.[/QUOTE]So thirsty.
[QUOTE=Mursenary;2578071]There were literally semi trucks used as morgues in Texas Hospitals. Medical personnel were dispatched in mass along with the National Guard. Tents were erected to treat the sick.
Proof? I don't know what world in which you live but my 2 weeks in Texas was entirely different than the picture you paint.
It would have been much worse if it it wasn't for the fact that Texas and Florida are two of the larger states in the USA with a geographically dispersed population. The cities were a completely different story as Houston, El Paso, and Miami saw ridiculous death tolls with only the large rural population bringing down the average to make numbers look better for the state as whole. If it wasn't for the fact that the heavily populated cities in Texas and Florida enforced restrictions, we would have had NYC type scenarios.
You have no idea what happened in the real world to be telling people about COVID care especially making the statement that Decadron is the standard of care as if it is a single miracle medication. We used steroids like this since one day one just as we would any inflammatory condition. No one was belittling decadron use.
Do you even know how it works? It is only an adjunct symptomatic treatment used in the early stages of care and has no effect once the inflammatory phase is over. The only standard of care was symptomatic treatment, early prevention of viral replication, and then supporting organ function as the person must naturally recover.
So please, take your laboratory science education elsewhere and stop talking about things in which you have no first hand knowledge.[/QUOTE]And we saw fridge trucks in streets, not in deep Romania, but in NYC and also pathetic Hart island there, when crazy golfer claimed to drink disinfectant. Amazing disappointing number 1 . When aiming to become new number 1 is land of lies and not respecting human rights. Poor world, let s enjoy our small pleasures, starting my best on 14 July if not raining like on 3. Still warming up in Iseran where Cavendish cried and 9 were out of time and at home, but I don t criticize because it was so cold and wet, not human, even their paid job.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2578106]You complain here about guys not being in Germany and not being real yet you make about 30 posts per day in the Thailand forum with your many fake handles when it's obvious from your posts that you've never even been to Thailand!
Also, stop PM'ing me with your fake handles. I know they're all you!
Bit Siri.[/QUOTE]I have only one profile, I think I'm very easy to recognize and you can even ask administration when all my posts are under administration moderation, for proof. I never wrote in Thailand where I don t know anything and I m not interested at all by Asia for sex. I also really don t need to send You PM and administration can also easily control, easy from IP. I'm not a ghost but as I'm super trained for pressure, I'm also super trained to smell fakers.
Rrrrrrrrrright,
After Florida and Texas open up, infection rate go up to the sky and people are dropping death like flies as I'm typing this. Just as the public health expert predicted it. When the FLCC doctor testify in the US Senate about how much success they was having in their ICU. No one criticized them. Dexamethasone become standard of care the very next day. Yep, All of that did happen. And 2+2 do equal to 5.
Sorry. I don't trust the public health expert. I trust evolution. I trust the latest recommendation coming from the FLCC, which some people believe could end the pandemic. The last part might be a little optimistic or maybe they are right. Unfortunately most doctor are too lazy and will just follow NIH guideline and will not give you the prescription for the FLCC I-mask protocol. I ordered and received all of these medication from India and Japan. Good luck to all (vaccinated and unvaccinated).
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2577654]You think girls are vaccinated? I don't know any club which select only vaccinated. Maybe GT, but he died from vaccine: bad luck. If you are afraid of covid, my advice is to stay away from FKK land which is a real playfield for virus and now delta.[/QUOTE]Who can read already has an advantage. He doesn't say that he thinks that the girls are vaccinated, but he would prefer if they would be.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2578060]Because you never visited any German club, not even Freubad, nor Cleo, nor Zeus, but you play ghost here since months, when all those who ever saw me, know I'm really not a ghost, so I preferred to answer you on your home club, then everybody can judge there, about your posts proving your lies about Virginia or new Swiss girl when you don't know who she is, but you wrote not your type, not interesting, when I m fully sure you paid 140/30 for Virginia, without kissing, on your single room with her, waiting for CIM to repeat as you wrote, even not so cute, when she told many guys don't ask to kiss. So obvious. At least, when she told me and told about only 80 rate, I didn't insist, I just didn't go, even for 80, when I don't go in Germany for 50 nor even 40 . When I only go to climb highest ranked, when W V AERT was not 77 kgs yesterday, easy to see even tall, rather than believing all data and behaving like a faker here, just learn about Newton whose apple talked. I will be on 2 October at the bottom for Verbier, for US, then you can make your strava, or follow me, when I m never a ghost, but topless to be lighter. Also learn about Colin Chapman for race cars, Newton best student, for light is right. Except if you want to play Sumo of course, but then you are at big risk to die.[/QUOTE]OK, let's see who writes bullshit here.
Here are 3 different sources for Kenny Elissonde (1.69 m and 52 kg) and Wout van Aert (1. 87 m and 78 kg) stats.
[URL]https://www.procyclingstats.com/rider/kenny-elissonde[/URL]
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenny_Elissonde[/URL]
[URL]https://www.eurosport.com/cycling/kenny-elissonde_prs256438/person.shtml[/URL]
[URL]https://www.procyclingstats.com/rider/wout-van-aert[/URL]
[URL]https://www.eurosport.com/cycling/wout-van-aert_prs356278/person.shtml[/URL]
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wout_van_Aert[/URL]
Do you agree that WVA dropped Kenny Elissonde on the Ventoux or are you saying it's not true? Do you agree that WVA is significantly heavier? Oh, I forget, you believe that the earth is flat, nothing will change your mind, you only trust your half blind eyes and your imagination. Please, you should tell the commentators at TV France 2 and Eurosport that you have better information than them.
The fact that you are unwilling to accept easily proven facts, just shows everybody that most of what you write is pure BS.