Medellin Reports

In the first place this should be in the apts thread. But anyway, I don't doubt that there are some people who bought, who decided they didn't want to live full-time in Medallo, and then have various degrees of difficulty in renting their places out. But the most prominent investor-renter is Bbrocs, who by all appearances is a pretty good guy. He has not had any problem in turn of occupancy or ROI, but in his brutal honesty he has posted (in the appropriate apt section) problems he has run into with the 30 day rule. This 30 day rule is designed to eliminate short-term apt rentals. The goal is not completely illogical, if the condos, which is mostly what they are, are rented to guys with prurient interests, then this impacts the other condo owners, in that low-rent, or high-rent, but rentable chicas, and perhaps shit-faced foreigners, are their new neighbors. But, recognizing the logic in the law, it makes me in the first place realize, again, the dangers of investing in a foreign country where you don't know all the laws or ins and outs, or for that matter to what extent you will realize your imagined paradise there. But I get the impression our friend Bbrocs has deep enough pockets, not immeasurably deep, but deep enough, to weather the storm, or even the permanent change. I hope so, as he seems quite the decent person. Also, at such time as I retire, in a few years, a monthly rental would be perfect for me, as it may be for many of you right now. As for despondent investors, in the first place I don't believe it, in the second Barry's places are the best, by the week or the month as the case may be.

that was a hoax, i contacted the poster to buy all or lease, never returned the email. that cl post was put there to scare off foreign investors. i think someone was taking a shot at me, funny he mentions the same apartment number he owns, i own that number. he says in ny freezing, i am in ny freezing. my new problem at soto, i'll go long term, short term or i'll sell them for a profit through first american. it's that simple. meanwhile good colombian real-estate continues to rise. if it goes sideways or down, i'm 42, who knows what will be in 15-20 years. chess thanks man for the kind words. me and ruben actually care about our clients, that's our secret our niche, i also can decorate the crap out of apartment, and yes i have some deep pockets, it wasn't handed to me i carved it out myself. go go gold & silver, still plenty of room to run on silver. never say i didn't give a tip. now soto verde says i can't have any women enter my apartments, gearing up for a lawsuit and half.

barry.

[quote=chesrep001;1117276]in the first place this should be in the apts thread. but anyway, i don't doubt that there are some people who bought, who decided they didn't want to live full-time in medallo, and then have various degrees of difficulty in renting their places out. but the most prominent investor-renter is bbrocs, who by all appearances is a pretty good guy. he has not had any problem in turn of occupancy or roi, but in his brutal honesty he has posted (in the appropriate apt section) problems he has run into with the 30 day rule. this 30 day rule is designed to eliminate short-term apt rentals. the goal is not completely illogical, if the condos, which is mostly what they are, are rented to guys with prurient interests, then this impacts the other condo owners, in that low-rent, or high-rent, but rentable chicas, and perhaps shit-faced foreigners, are their new neighbors. but, recognizing the logic in the law, it makes me in the first place realize, again, the dangers of investing in a foreign country where you don't know all the laws or ins and outs, or for that matter to what extent you will realize your imagined paradise there. but i get the impression our friend bbrocs has deep enough pockets, not immeasurably deep, but deep enough, to weather the storm, or even the permanent change. i hope so, as he seems quite the decent person. also, at such time as i retire, in a few years, a monthly rental would be perfect for me, as it may be for many of you right now. as for despondent investors, in the first place i don't believe it, in the second barry's places are the best, by the week or the month as the case may be.[/quote]

[quote=chesrep001;1117276]this 30 day rule is designed to eliminate short-term apt rentals. the goal is not completely illogical, if the condos, which is mostly what they are, are rented to guys with prurient interests, then this impacts the other condo owners, in that low-rent, or high-rent, but rentable chicas, and perhaps shit-faced foreigners, are their new neighbors.[/quote]the law (becoming popular in cities around the world) is actually as a result of the lobbying of the hotel companies and has nothing to do with the small number of mongers around. they recently implemented this in nyc (where i was from) and it has been bandied about here in lima.

many mongers will stay for a month or more so it does not affect them. the "real tourists" are just passing thru for a few days and are opting for apartments rather than putting up the family in a hotel. the hotels are well aware of cl and other venues and are acting in there own self interest. if there were any major players in mde they would band together to form an association and make there voices (money) heard!

[QUOTE=Lima Busy;1117288]If there were any major players in MDE they would band together to form an association and make there voices (money) heard![/QUOTE]Or they should just be majority on the condo board or own the building outright.

[QUOTE=Nino Bravo; 1117230]Hey Luckie,

It seems you are a little "Unluckie" when it comes to travel agents. Better inform the Dali, that flight 443 on Feb. 12 leaves out of Atlanta at 4:55 pm, and arrives in Bogota at 9:42 pm. Which means of course you will miss your Avianca flight to MDE, and will have to spend the night in Bogota and catch a flight to MDE the next day. Bummer. [/QUOTE]I may be unlucky but I can research and book a flight without asking 20 different people "What should I do?", hold my own dick when I [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] [B]but [/B]I obviously I have been duped by a Dali Lama impersonator. Oh well looks like I will be stuck in some airport somewhere between Montreal and Medellin. If only I had asked more people to show me how this airport thing functions. Thanks Nino you saved me a heap of trouble.

[quote=chesrep001;1117276]in the first place this should be in the apts thread.[/quote]no! we should keep all of the apartment and rentals and 'air travel 101' here instead of in the threads where they belong. this way when some newbie stops by and says[i],"i rtff but for the last 40 pages there was nothing but crap" [/i]he will be justified.

if i am jackson i blow all this shit out and give us all warnings. especially me!

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie;1117290]Or they should just be majority on the condo board or own the building outright.[/QUOTE]There is such a group that I donate to that fights the hotel and tourism lobby, Actuiva or something close to that. Right now there is legislation to appeal it but the hotel lobby is stronger then the apartment lobby, they got much deeper pockets, have the ear of government. Our appeal has been delayed. As far as getting on apartment condo boards. That's not going to happen there snooty people running these boards, having a foreigner even at the meeting is a no no. At my building even when I'm in town they have the meetings and don't inform me. They don't want me and my lawyers there. So how you running for the board? Own the entire building you say? Wow what a great Idea, That's to much freaking money. When buying different apartments you have the ability to own all different kinds of places, that appeal to all kinds of different people. It will work itself out or it won't and I'll put these two up for sale and buy into a more friendly building. This is just my two cents. I claim to be no expert on Colombia anything. I'm just happy to have a place to go to besides NY, and Lima.

[QUOTE=Bbrocs;1117293]Right now there is legislation to appeal it but the hotel lobby is stronger then the apartment lobby, they got much deeper pockets, have the ear of government....[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Bbrocs;1117293]...buy into a more friendly building.[/QUOTE]So if you buy into a friendlier building you can obviously circumvent that 30 day law or whatever is proposed by the hotel lobby. That may not be a bad idea. If the neighbors are OK and the layout of the property is such that no one is all that bothered.....

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie;1117294]So if you buy into a friendlier building you can obviously circumvent that 30 day law or whatever is proposed by the hotel lobby. That may not be a bad idea. If the neighbors are OK and the layout of the property is such that no one is all that bothered.....[/QUOTE]Of course, but what should be stated that renting over 30 days is entirely legal. Giving someone a written lease for a month and having them stay 15 days and then giving the admin a letter they broke there lease and putting no one else in for the rest of the month is grey area legal. A lot of us did not know this would happen, I bought pre May 1, 2010 and at that time everything was legal. My buddy Rich Haus said to me and lives in Bello, might be the only gringo living there, said nothing is worse then a wealthy Colombian. He was half kidding but the poblado older crowd with some money have such a feeling of entitlement. Makes US snobs look liberal. Lets get back to stories now about pussy please. Enough wallstreet journal.

I apologize if my post wasn't appropriate for this thread, now chill out, don't blow a gasket!

She said she was coming over at 11am on Friday, the 31st, and lo and behold she arrived. We spent some time on the veranda talking. She has blond hair, a musical voice. We ventured to the bedroom. She has a great ass, beautiful face. I worshipped this 19 year old by licking most of her body, the most interesting parts with great gusto. Lately I have taken to using polyurethane condoms with olive oil. So I rubbed her soft skin with olive oil, which she likes, and then nailed her with her lying on her stomach, watching those nalgas respond to my vigorous phuck. A timely and gratifying nut.

Later another called, saying she wanted to come over around 6, it's unusual for them to venture out on the 31st. But she arrived. 18 years old, has a 2 year old, tall, brownish-blond hair, green eyes, nice tits. We talk for a while, then into the bedroom. She has some new fancy ropa interior, which I ask her to remove. Then I ask her to blow me, which she gave to understand is somewhat of an imposition, which just makes it sexier, the image is engraved in my mind. Then I nail her missionary style, she is responsive to a good phuck. Again, a timely wonderful nut.

A twofer is quite special for me. If I ever get caught in Groundhog Day, I hope it's Dec 31, 2010.

We ventured out on the 29th of December, a Wednesday. First to La Mayorista, not my personal favorite. I also want to say that I am very much against drugs. Don't do them! Somehow some drugs made their way into my system that night, along with alcohol, which affected my perception et al. (If I ever find those guys!). There was one dude with us who liked to control, and he grabbed a taxista he knew and took us on some type of tour of the badlands. I just recall underpasses, fires (sort of cookouts for the super-underclass) , and as out taxi stopped, ladies and children approaching the vehicle. I didn't understand or appreciate our modus operandi, so I took to calling out Feliz Quinceañera at the little ones. We kept moving, strange sights. We made our way to Fase II, three of us, we had a good time, I met me future ex-wife there, we didn't hook up, but she captivated me, I saw her later in another context and I really like her. Maybe I can be one of her Johns. But she was and is extraordinary.

Fase II closed about 330 or 4, and the other two dudes were going to another hotel, so they kind of left me, or I left them. The drugs that had somehow made their way into my system were affecting my perception perceptibly, but I was having fun. I just wasn't ready for bed.

So I caught a taxi, which dropped me off at Parque Lleras. There is not much happening at Lleras a 4 am, so I sat myself down in the middle. I had on my best clothes, for a guy who travels with one carry-on, which was a leather jacket, black shoes and pants, white shirt, and a miniature I-pod.

My memory is spotty, and my perception was altered.

I found myself with at least three new friends, young kids around me, we all sat down inside the fountain (waterless). The dude on my left kept requesting funds to buy party supplies, which I furnished. He would leave and return and we continued to festejar. And we talked. It's hard for me to believe, literally, but I understood the poor street urchin in front of me belonged to a swim team, and in a couple of days they had a swim meet against Itaguí and Bello. I asked who went to his swim meets, he seemed to say no one but then the guy on my right said he went, he was part of his porra (he was supposed to be his brother or half-brother).

I lent the kid on my right my little ipod and ear pods, and he spend the next eternity listening to them, occasionally I changed the music for him. He was content.

They mentioned the police occasionally, but I never turned around, never paid attention.

We partied extensively, but gradually a silence came over us, lasting for an hour, or more or less. The sun began to rise, us still sitting in the fountain. There seemed to be others at times, shadows coming and going.

As the sun came up they had to leave. The dude on my right gave me back my ipod, The dude on my left, and the swim dude asked me for some breakfast money and some money to pay the toll (?) , which I gave to them.

They left and I was alone. I didn't know where I was, and I sat there for a while just wondering about many things. After who knows how long I stood up, and began to walk. I found a street I knew, and then, almost at the point of giving up, found my apt.

Two nights later, my last night in Medallo, I was wandering around taking photos of the lights and all, and I ate at the Lebanese place in Lleras. A chiclet seller appeared in front of me and I tossed him a coin. He tossed me a little chiclet packet, I said thanks. Later, after I had walked around taking photos, I was walking back through the same area, and I heard someone call my name, the way Hispanics say my name. I couldn't locate the source for a minute, and then I saw the chiclet seller. He was sitting, and he said my name again, with affection, we did the fist bump and I wished him a happy new year. I didn't recognize him, which is strange because the three guys who sat with me I think I know them so well.

We had talked, and talked and talked and became brothers.

The fist bump with the chiclet dude means it was real and really happened. And I think about those guys, and that night, all the time.

I will never forget that night, to the extent that I can remember it.

[QUOTE=TweedleD;1117049]I understand there is also some senatorial foot tapping in the bathroom stalls but I'm not really into that[/QUOTE]Tweedle. Very funny dude. Not sure if everyone got the joke but I appreciated it.

i enjoyed this!

[quote=chesrep001; 1117333]we ventured out on the 29th of december, a wednesday. first to la mayorista, not my personal favorite. i also want to say that i am very much against drugs. don't do them! somehow some drugs made their way into my system that night, along with alcohol, which affected my perception et al. (if i ever find those guys!). there was one dude with us who liked to control, and he grabbed a taxista he knew and took us on some type of tour of the badlands. i just recall underpasses, fires (sort of cookouts for the super-underclass) , and as out taxi stopped, ladies and children approaching the vehicle. i didn't understand or appreciate our modus operandi, so i took to calling out feliz quinceañera at the little ones. we kept moving, strange sights. we made our way to fase ii, three of us, we had a good time, i met me future ex-wife there, we didn't hook up, but she captivated me, i saw her later in another context and i really like her. maybe i can be one of her johns. but she was and is extraordinary.

fase ii closed about 330 or 4, and the other two dudes were going to another hotel, so they kind of left me, or i left them. the drugs that had somehow made their way into my system were affecting my perception perceptibly, but i was having fun. i just wasn't ready for bed.

so i caught a taxi, which dropped me off at parque lleras. there is not much happening at lleras a 4 am, so i sat myself down in the middle. i had on my best clothes, for a guy who travels with one carry-on, which was a leather jacket, black shoes and pants, white shirt, and a miniature i-pod.

my memory is spotty, and my perception was altered.

i found myself with at least three new friends, young kids around me, we all sat down inside the fountain (waterless). the dude on my left kept requesting funds to buy party supplies, which i furnished. he would leave and return and we continued to festejar. and we talked. it's hard for me to believe, literally, but i understood the poor street urchin in front of me belonged to a swim team, and in a couple of days they had a swim meet against itaguí and bello. i asked who went to his swim meets, he seemed to say no one but then the guy on my right said he went, he was part of his porra (he was supposed to be his brother or half-brother).

i lent the kid on my right my little ipod and ear pods, and he spend the next eternity listening to them, occasionally i changed the music for him. he was content.

they mentioned the police occasionally, but i never turned around, never paid attention.

we partied extensively, but gradually a silence came over us, lasting for an hour, or more or less. the sun began to rise, us still sitting in the fountain. there seemed to be others at times, shadows coming and going.

as the sun came up they had to leave. the dude on my right gave me back my ipod, the dude on my left, and the swim dude asked me for some breakfast money and some money to pay the toll (?) , which i gave to them.

they left and i was alone. i didn't know where i was, and i sat there for a while just wondering about many things. after who knows how long i stood up, and began to walk. i found a street i knew, and then, almost at the point of giving up, found my apt.

two nights later, my last night in medallo, i was wandering around taking photos of the lights and all, and i ate at the lebanese place in lleras. a chiclet seller appeared in front of me and i tossed him a coin. he tossed me a little chiclet packet, i said thanks. later, after i had walked around taking photos, i was walking back through the same area, and i heard someone call my name, the way hispanics say my name. i couldn't locate the source for a minute, and then i saw the chiclet seller. he was sitting, and he said my name again, with affection, we did the fist bump and i wished him a happy new year. i didn't recognize him, which is strange because the three guys who sat with me i think i know them so well.

we had talked, and talked and talked and became brothers.

the fist bump with the chiclet dude means it was real and really happened. and i think about those guys, and that night, all the time.

i will never forget that night, to the extent that i can remember it. [/quote]

[QUOTE=Ouzo 12;1117315]I apologize if my post wasn't appropriate for this thread, now chill out, don't blow a gasket![/QUOTE]Ouzo,

You have nothing to apologize about and certainly not to anyone here except maybe Jackson. Many long time members post in the wrong section so no one here is perfect. As far as your original question I have been around this game for a few years and still find great info about flights and travel search engines from other members.

I was a newbie once and like to give back like those who helped me. If you have any questions feel free to post and don't worry about pleasing anyone else.

Devo