Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=Chicago85;2829090]For me it's because damn near every girl tells me that Colombian men are dogs, with the exception of their father or brother (s) of course. Perhaps they say it because it's what I want to hear, but many of them have the stories to back it up. Also, if the local guys treat the girls so well, why the heck are so many of them single mothers? You're not much of a man if you abandon a girl (and your child) where I come from, but it's very common in their culture.
On the other hand the worst 'treatment' I hear about foreigners is usually them not tipping or having bad hygeine LOL.[/QUOTE]A lot of women gravitate toward men that treat them poorly, and this is cross cultural. Some claim to want "nice guys," and may experiment with that but ultimately return to the familar and what they find exciting.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;2829090]Also, if the local guys treat the girls so well, why the heck are so many of them single mothers? You're not much of a man if you abandon a girl (and your child) where I come from, but it's very common in their culture.[/QUOTE]If that is their reasoning it is obvious they have not seen all the single mothers that foreigners left behind in other countries as well as their own. Just finished reading an article about it in Philippines. When a chick tells me about how bad local men are I say all men and all women are the same. It does not matter where they come from. You are just not used to a foreign man's bullshit yet. Besides that, it should be pretty easy getting along with a mf that is on vacation. The problems start when you have to see each other everyday or live together. Back in the day I used to mess with a Filipina chick and she would call her American husband Noriega because he was so tough on her.

From the Time article:

"Eventually, she found an email address, and when she sent a message, to her delight, she got a reply. Levante says her biological father, a sailor from Belfair, Washington, who left Subic for good in 1981, was sympathetic at first to her life story. But when she decided to ask him for help, noting that she was midway through a nursing attendant degree but would soon have to drop out because she couldn't afford tuition, he replied: ​8203;"Please do not think that I am a knight in shining armor who is going to ride in and rescue you. " A few months later, Levante was told by her father's wife in the USA That he had died. ".

This is a roundabout way of saying girls are keen to use guys as ATMs. It's all good as long as the sex is to your liking.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2829009]I agree with you and the majority of people who post stuff don't really understand Latino culture (at least how it applies to Colombia). If you are here for 2 weeks, not many girls will want to start a relationship that isn't compensation based. I mean after-all, Even if you can speak some Spanish you won't be around to give her gifts on her birthday. You won't be around to buy her that new pair of shoes. Men are the providers (in this culture) and if you aren't going to be here to help out, she isn't likely to be interested.

OTOH if you do live here, speak Spanish and can be available to take her to dinner at a nice restaurant or maybe a weekend trip to Guatape or San Jeronimo or someplace else. Now you are very interesting to her. If she sees you as a friend who can help out in times of need you become very handsome even if you are her grandfather's age. Girls are groomed to find a stable man who can be a productive member of the family. Mothers tell their daughters. "it is just as easy to fall in love with a rich man as it is with a poor man". Obviously there aren't enough "rich men" to go around. But show a girl that you live here, and can be a friend and sex will follow since it isn't a big deal. It is almost as plentiful as avocados.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2828974]Why is that your mentality? Whenever I see a normal chick that I like I just talk to them normally and ask to get to know them or whatever. It does not pop into my head that I would pay her. Some of you guys are really too deep into this P4P shit.[/QUOTE]Why would a girl give it up for free to any John who approaches and talks to her? They know why John is in Colombia. Also, you assume that every John has game, speaks Spanish and is at least half decent looking, and this is not always the case. You have been talking a lot lately about "messing" with girls for free, if you can still pull that off, good for you, but then what are you doing on a mongering forum? My understanding is that you mess with average or below average looking girls, fucking them for free is not a big deal. Go ahead and try to score a hot chick without paying, and let us know how that goes.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2828765]You have been talking a lot lately about "messing" with girls for free, if you can still pull that off, good for you, but then what are you doing on a mongering forum?[/QUOTE]They are women. They are not some sacred untouchable alien orb. So because I ate pizza today, I can not eat a ribeye tomorrow? Because I drove my car today, I can not ride my motorcycle tomorrow or my bicycle the next day? There is no either or or mutual exclusivity with paying chicks or fucking chicks for free. You know that both can be done right?

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2828765]My understanding is that you mess with average or below average looking girls,[/QUOTE]Where did you get that understanding from?

Look under FAQ. General Questions, What is the purpose of the forum? And it says in red bold print:

[B]The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women.[/B]

Now for those who have difficulty with reading comprehension in the English language, this is not a mongering board. This is a big tent forum about having sex with girls. Now please tell me that at least some of you out there know how to have sex with a girl without paying her. That discussion is very active other threads.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2828975]Why do tourists always have the idea that local guys treat chicks bad but foreigners treat them well? This is a common bullshit idea in damn near every thread. There are locals that treat chicks good and there are foreigners that treat chicks like shit.[/QUOTE]I talk to all of my dates at length before I fuck them & I am talkin hundreds of paisas & I am hard pressed to remember just one who spoke highly of the local men. Of course, hookers are at the lower end of the strata but still, almost 100% speak ill of local men & that is why they are not livin the dream of a husband, children, a house etc. Etc. If a guy was treating my prospective dates good, they would not be selling their snatch for a pittance, Mr. Know=it=all Enternational.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2829135]Why would a girl give it up for free to any John who approaches and talks to her? They know why John is in Colombia. Also, you assume that every John has game, speaks Spanish and is at least half decent looking, and this is not always the case. You have been talking a lot lately about "messing" with girls for free, if you can still pull that off, good for you, but then what are you doing on a mongering forum? My understanding is that you mess with average or below average looking girls, fucking them for free is not a big deal. Go ahead and try to score a hot chick without paying, and let us know how that goes.[/QUOTE]I've lived long enough now to know that hot chicks and ugly chicks are 2 different skill sets. Ugly girls are starved for male attention and sex. Guys don't hit on them or pay them no mind. I had a 65 yo women at a sports bar tell me she wanted to F me after talking to me for 10 minutes. Hot chicks don't do that. If ugly chick is a co worker she will immediately hit on you if you are friends. Hot chicks are so much work no matter your age. The 19 yo cashier at Taco Bell was smoking, she must get hit on 20 times a day. The song brickhouse was written for this girl. My late 40's ass at that time would have looked creepy trying to get a date, but I sure as hell would have paid her. That's why I love Brazil. There are a few of those types at one of the termas every time. They aren't in huge abundance anymore since help closed, but they are still there.

To sum up, I go to Brazil to bang hot chicks because I'm too lazy to hit on them in the states. I don't go for ugly chicks.

[QUOTE=Shemp;2829157]I talk to all of my dates at length before I fuck them & I am talkin hundreds of paisas & I am hard pressed to remember just one who spoke highly of the local men. Of course, hookers are at the lower end of the strata but still, almost 100% speak ill of local men & that is why they are not livin the dream of a husband, children, a house etc. Etc. If a guy was treating my prospective dates good, they would not be selling their snatch for a pittance, Mr. Know=it=all Enternational.[/QUOTE]Since you seem to only talk to hookers I guess you would not know that women that are not hookers talk about local men the same way. It has nothing to do with whether they are selling pussy or not. It works the same way as guys that come on this board and talk about the women where they are from. Really. Is every chick where you come from fat and bitchy?

You made two valid points. (1) Prepagos often have daddy issues that permeate their other interactions with men. (2) Prepagos are not the sum total of Colombian womanhood. The second point appears to be a distinction without a difference to some of us.

[QUOTE=Shemp;2829157]I talk to all of my dates at length before I fuck them & I am talkin hundreds of paisas & I am hard pressed to remember just one who spoke highly of the local men. Of course, hookers are at the lower end of the strata but still, almost 100% speak ill of local men & that is why they are not livin the dream of a husband, children, a house etc. Etc. If a guy was treating my prospective dates good, they would not be selling their snatch for a pittance, Mr. Know=it=all Enternational.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AfternoonSnack;2829094]I'm headed back to Medellin next week and my semi-pro novia invited me to a family finca party to meet her grandmother and the rest of her extended family. Any idea what I'm in for?[/QUOTE]You'll be required to give grandma a rim job. Don't forget that the correct term is "Beso Negro. " Afterwards, all the men in the family will spank you with bamboo while singing the Colombian National Anthem. At midnight everyone finds a goat to molest. Kind of like Friday night in rural Alabama, but in Spanish.

There will be food, drink and music. Some people will probably be dancing and will urge you to join them. The older generation will be interested in talking to you. The party will probably last until 2 or 3 am. Bring some special snack from home to share. My current favorite is a jar or 2 of bread and butter pickles. Treat it like a family reunion.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2829118]This is a roundabout way of saying girls are keen to use guys as ATMs. It's all good as long as the sex is to your liking.[/QUOTE]Well gee. I wasn't addressing direct pay-4-play but let's not be naive here. We all pay in one way or another. Unless you are a gigolo and the woman pays you.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2829097]As you are in fact their grandfather's age, that's what you want to think but it's self-delusion. To them it's like eating a bad meal for money, and if married to grandpa they are very likely to cheat with men they are attracted to.

Also one doesn't need to live in Colombia to provide birthday gifts and the like or even fill the role of "novio. " Many have a number of foreign men with this designation while the real novio is close to their age and Colombian. In fact good spending novios from afar are surely often preferred as they have to fuck them less.[/QUOTE]How would you know? Have you ever been out on a date that wasn't transactional in nature? I didn't think so.

[QUOTE=Shemp;2829157]I talk to all of my dates at length before I fuck them & I am talkin hundreds of paisas & I am hard pressed to remember just one who spoke highly of the local men. Of course, hookers are at the lower end of the strata but still, almost 100% speak ill of local men & that is why they are not livin the dream of a husband, children, a house etc. Etc. If a guy was treating my prospective dates good, they would not be selling their snatch for a pittance, Mr. Know=it=all Enternational.[/QUOTE]If you are a young heaux and a more seasoned heaux is giving you advice wouldn't the vet say, "Tell 'them that men from his country are amazing and our young men are all douchebags".

Just seems like good sales technique to build rapport.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2829135]Why would a girl give it up for free to any John who approaches and talks to her? They know why John is in Colombia. Also, you assume that every John has game, speaks Spanish and is at least half decent looking, and this is not always the case. You have been talking a lot lately about "messing" with girls for free, if you can still pull that off, good for you, but then what are you doing on a mongering forum? My understanding is that you mess with average or below average looking girls, fucking them for free is not a big deal. Go ahead and try to score a hot chick without paying, and let us know how that goes.[/QUOTE]She wouldn't, not to "any John."

Why would any man assume the "any John" role?

I used to spend my time in strip clubs. I behaved just like anyone else, "any John", and only got attention from the ones wanting money. Then I learned to not be "any John. " I stopped approaching strippers and started just talking with girls.

Instead of spending $200 or more trying to get a girl interested in me, I would end up spending $50 and half the girls, the bouncers, cook and manager would drop by to say Hello,. A few of the girls took me to lunch or dinner, their treat. 4 ended up renting my spare bedroom at different times, several of them hired me to move them. For 1 week I was driving a stripper's Corvette, while she arranged an indoor parking spot for it. Another always asked me to take her to and from the airport, leaving her Infiniti with me as long as I fed her cats while she was away.

And some of them would fuck me for free.

If you approach any woman with the goal of getting her to fuck for money, the only good outcome is you might find one to fuck you for money.

If you approach any woman, just to talk, be friendly, get to know them, if you're the least bit interesting, some will be interested. It doesn't matter if you're the right age, weight or height. All that matters is that you're a nice guy who can carry a conversation. If so, there's a decent chance you'll walk out with a Whatsapp number.

Of course, in Colombia, if you're not willing to invest the time and effort into learning the language, it's going to be difficult.