Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2496308]I don't think Mr. E is unaware of this "trick" by the banks. Rather I believe he is surprised that it happens in Colombia. I saw this conversion screen for the first time at the end of last year and it has spread to more banks this year. Overall it is a relatively new thing in Colombia. Yes these conversion offers are total bullshit.[/QUOTE]Exactly. This is my 3rd time here this year and I had never seen it before last night. Matter of fact I went to Colpatria first. Put my card in and it asks Spanish or English. Pressed both buttons and inserted my card multiple times and it would not get past that screen. Then I went to Davivienda and that machine would only allow a withdrawl of 300,000. By the time I got to the Banco de Bogota machine I was frustrated and just wanted to get some money out quickly. In that state I could have easily missed what was going on, but I caught it and decided to pass the word along so other people will have their eyes open.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2496315]Exactly. This is my 3rd time here this year and I had never seen it before last night.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the intel. I was there in January of this year and I did not see this on the ATM screen, so I would agree that this must be new.

Moreover, after using my debit card at places like Starbucks, etc. (in January), the amount that they charged me at the coffee shop in pesos turned out to be the correct conversion amount in USD when I checked my bank statement online.

I'll try it out at Starbucks when I get down there next month. It's hard to imagine that coffee shops and restaurants would be doing this conversion bull also.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2496308]Rather I believe he is surprised that it happens in Colombia. I saw this conversion screen for the first time at the end of last year and it has spread to more banks this year. Overall it is a relatively new thing in Colombia.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately not. I have been noticing that BS in many ATMs of USA, Colombia, Malaysia, Indonesia and Singapore for the last several years. No, I am sorry, I am not able to enumerate precisely where and when, but I mention those countries because they are the extra-EU places I have visited most often in the last years.

Mr E., pls understand I did not mean to argue with you on this. I feel totally sympathetic with your anger. I fell in this trap more than once. I may only speculate that either you did not notice it before, or your specific usual ATM did not have this option before, but they introduced it only recently. Who knows. However, no, it is not new in Colombia.

Particularly nasty is having that conversion option in the credit card payments, because when it is available the waiter or the seller is used to select YES without even asking the unaware customer.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2496327]Mr E., pls understand I did not mean to argue with you on this.[/QUOTE]LOL. Man you know I am not thinking that way.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2496300]You do not use the common terms that most usually use. Also you use them to describe your experience like you have not experienced them. "Videoconference" is just one example. You also explain things in general and not talk about Medellin so that kind of lost the relevance. My SA experience is very different from yours. I have talked to many Medellin girls on Medellin and they all know why they are on the site even for some that are just exploring. if you have talked to Medellin girls, you will know the more common terms even after translator.[/QUOTE]Exactly what I have been saying.

Great ATM tip about the conversion issue.

In col never use ATM in street. Enter a shopping mall use ATM nthere with morre cams and guards it is safer.

LOL about videoconference with the "secretary" .
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The vanilla icecream is free, baby.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2496300]you use them to describe your experience like you have not experienced them. [/QUOTE]Yup. Anonymous. And I always say " I heard... " or " a friend... " .Anonymous.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2496327]Unfortunately not. I have been noticing that BS in many ATMs of USA, Colombia, Malaysia, Indonesia and Singapore for the last several years. No, I am sorry, I am not able to enumerate precisely where and when, but I mention those countries because they are the extra-EU places I have visited most often in the last years.

Mr E., pls understand I did not mean to argue with you on this. I feel totally sympathetic with your anger. I fell in this trap more than once. I may only speculate that either you did not notice it before, or your specific usual ATM did not have this option before, but they introduced it only recently. Who knows. However, no, it is not new in Colombia.

Particularly nasty is having that conversion option in the credit card payments, because when it is available the waiter or the seller is used to select YES without even asking the unaware customer.[/QUOTE]My personal experience with ATM's that present all the conversion options, which I have encountered in Europe, is that they are selectively placed at travel hubs like airports / train stations / tourist destinations where arriving passengers / tourists are in dire need of local currency, and people easily get confused and fall into the trap set by the Banks. I remember arriving at a train station somewhere in Europe, and there were rows of ATM machines, kind of like a bunch of one armed bandits lying in wait for a tired and dazed traveller.

As far as Colombia, I have yet to encounter the multi conversion ATM's on either a Bancolombia or Scotia Bank ATM at least in Medellin. And as far as the credit card conversion option, I always say in COP, as what you mention about the waiters / sellers automatically selecting this option is so true as you get totally dinged on it. Also interesting with credit cards in Colombia is how they always ask you "cuantos quotas", meaning how many payments do you want the charge spread over.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2496310] Never answered why he could not just tell her to turn on her cam all the other times he was sending messages with her. [/QUOTE]Didn't think of it. Good advice. Will try This just turn on the camera for 10 seconds screening technique. However the what app video call is still good to talk 4 an 1/2 hour ask important questions and get a feel for the girl in seeking.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2496148]The chances of an unemployed young female Colombian, with no family in the US, granted a tourist visa to come to the US is virtually zero. And it would take a lot of time and money to discover she is denied.[/QUOTE]The better and easier route is an education visa. However, I think a tourist visa is doable on a planned trip with a strict schedule. I thought you might be able to pay for a tour and just have the woman come stay with you, but I understood customs is pretty strict about people following the itinerary.

I really don't understand why go thru all this? I use Facebook and look for recent pics of the girls.

I contact them and share whatsapp accounts. We agree on the amount and she comes to my apartment. To be totally honest I have never experienced a situation where the girl didn't look like her pics. Some girls are better than others in bed. Not even sure why guys go to seeking arrangements when these same girls have Facebook accounts.

[QUOTE=Frank11;2496348]Didn't think of it. Good advice. Will try This just turn on the camera for 10 seconds screening technique. However the what app video call is still good to talk 4 an 1/2 hour ask important questions and get a feel for the girl in seeking.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2496224]I arrived in Bogota tonight and went to the Banco de Bogota ATM in the airport. It seems these mfs have start trying to pull a trick that a few banks in Thailand have been doing the past couple of years. You key in how much money you want then it pops up on the screen an amount with them offering to exchange your currency to pesos. ALWAYS SELECT NO unless you like getting fucked instead of doing the fucking. They will charge you 7% exchange on top of the 13,000 fee if you select yes. When you select no the money just comes out normal and you get the rate that your home bank is giving you.[/QUOTE]If I remember correctly, Davivienda and Servibanco ATMs ask this too.

Took the girls to Motel Ibiza on Friday night. It was my first time at a love motel in Medellin.

DiDi to the location, intercom to request a room (Presidencial), DiDi drives into your private garage, you walk upstairs, and.

2 beds, 10 person jacuzzi, bluetooth speakers throughout with a microphone, stripper pole, couches, 2 showers, 2 bathrooms, 2 tvs, 2 refrigerators full of anything you could possibly need (booze, drinks, food, vibrators, lube, condoms, and much much more). Menu for food, drinks, costumes / lingerie, etc. Our jacuzzi had an issue for the first hour, but after several calls they got it working. We also called to turn on the A / see and also to add some cold water to the 105 degree monstrous jacuzzi. We brought a bag of drinks but ended up having a few from the fridge, and bought a vibrator. 6 hours in total, bill was about 550.000 COP. They have much cheaper options, as well as shorter periods of time.

All-in-all, it was a good option. Especially, if you can't find an apartment with a jacuzzi, or you are priced out of options. Every girl I talked to about joining us already knew about the place. In normal times, I would imagine a night out in Palmahia with a group, followed by spending your night at Motel Ibiza or the like, would be a fun way to spend the night. A couple buddies with 4 girls could be one hell of a night.

Also, I extended my tourist permit until mid-December. The process was excruciating, because of how terrible the website was, but the eventual cost was 103.000 COP. My plan is to go home and come back in early January. Found a very nice apartment for Nov-Dec, but I have a week gap before then. I am looking into a finca to host a Halloween party, maybe. I'm just not sure if I want to commit to stocking up on groceries for the week, etc.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Frank11;2496341]Yup. Anonymous. And I always say " I heard... " or " a friend... " .Anonymous.[/QUOTE]You you are in Medellin now, right? It does not sound like you have a good time. Your posts are still focus on the virtual world and mostly about the negatives.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2496373]Took the girls to Motel Ibiza on Friday night. It was my first time at a love motel in Medellin.
DiDi to the location, intercom to request a room (Presidencial), DiDi drives into your private garage, you walk upstairs, and.

...All-in-all, it was a good option. Especially, if you can't find an apartment with a jacuzzi, or you are priced out of options. Every girl I talked to about joining us already knew about the place. In normal times, I would imagine a night out in Palmahia with a group, followed by spending your night at Motel Ibiza or the like, would be a fun way to spend the night. A couple buddies with 4 girls could be one hell of a night.[/QUOTE]I agree, a nice and fun place. A WG took me there a few years ago. I was impressed with the place. But I heard that you need to reserve in advance, it can be busy at times. And it was reasonably priced.

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2496353]I really don't understand why go thru all this? I use Facebook and look for recent pics of the girls.

I contact them and share whatsapp accounts. We agree on the amount and she comes to my apartment. To be totally honest I have never experienced a situation where the girl didn't look like her pics. Some girls are better than others in bed. Not even sure why guys go to seeking arrangements when these same girls have Facebook accounts.

.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure but the Facebook game maybe it's not so big in other cities outside med. I already asked for Faceboook contacts in Cali. Found a few online In the local forum but nothing too good. In this particular situation, It was easier to be picky On seeking.There are some high-level hotties on seeking. Not that many though.

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[QUOTE=Nounce;2496376]You you are in Medellin now, right? It does not sound like you have a good time. Your posts are still focus on the virtual world and mostly about the negatives.[/QUOTE]I am nearby. But I still learned invaluable lessons in this forum. Had one date and scheduled two other dates. The best part isI could find reasonable rent prices. It's Positive fun to read about all the scam and learn to be safe and try to outsmart the danger. But yeah it can come off as negative. Not a good time? Yeah I guess it Sounds that way. But there are a lot of good things here. It's nice to be lucky. Just waiting in transit.

What scams are you referring to? Seems by going to seeking arrangements and not following the advise on this board you are making this a lot more difficult than it is. Seeking arrangements in Medellin?

Sounds to a lot of working girls as a easy way to make money from guys not knowing the ropes.

[QUOTE=Frank11;2496391]I am nearby. But I still learned a valuable lesson in this forum. Had one date and scheduled two other dates. The best part isI could find reasonable rent prices. It's Positive fun to read about all the scam and learn to be safe and try to outsmart the danger. But yeah it can come off as negative. Not a good time? Yeah I guess it Sounds that way. But there are a lot of good things here. It's nice to be lucky. Just waiting in transit.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2496393]What scams are you referring to? Seems by going to seeking arrangements and not following the advise on this board you are making this a lot more difficult than it is. Seeking arrangements in Medellin?

Sounds to a lot of working girls as a easy way to make money from guys not knowing the ropes.
.[/QUOTE]There Worst scam is the food poisoning. That's why get their pictures, video, real name, ID number or if not the guard gets the ID number. Then entitled girls On seeking looking for guys that Give free handouts. I don't respect this type of woman and I'm not interested in becoming their friend. Of course it's An exception if both the guy and a girl clearly state from the beginning They want platonic relationship. In the 3rd scam is girls On seeking asking for upfront gifts making up some weird emergency. When they Finally come over there is nothing around they can put in their pockets. I still haven't let anyone victimize me. Also 50 year old guy selling pictures of a 20 year old girl. I Am guessing these same scams happen in all major Colombian cities.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2496380]I agree, a nice and fun place. A WG took me there a few years ago. I was impressed with the place. But I heard that you need to reserve in advance, it can be busy at times. And it was reasonably priced.[/QUOTE]You only need to reserve in advance for one of the special suites. I've probably been there 20 times or more. I believe the base price for 6 hours is 89 k for 2 people. Extra charge for extra persons, plus charges for any mini-bar items.

They have a full menu available and a full sex store catalog as well.

Again, why bother with SA? I have never heard of someone doing so much work in Medellin just to meet girls. If you read the forum there are guys that have written the names of contacts they have they can recommend. Food posioning? Are you planning to dine them? If you are that paranoid maybe you should pick another hobby?

[QUOTE=Frank11;2496401]There Worst scam is the food poisoning. That's why get their pictures, video, real name, ID number or if not the guard gets the ID number. Then entitled girls On seeking looking for guys that Give free handouts. I don't respect this type of woman and I'm not interested in becoming their friend. Of course it's An exception if both the guy and a girl clearly state from the beginning They want platonic relationship. In the 3rd scam is girls On seeking asking for upfront gifts making up some weird emergency. When they Finally come over there is nothing around they can put in their pockets. I still haven't let anyone victimize me. Also 50 year old guy selling pictures of a 20 year old girl. I Am guessing these same scams happen in all major Colombian cities.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2496373]Took the girls to Motel Ibiza on Friday night. It was my first time at a love motel in Medellin.
2 beds, 10 person jacuzzi, bluetooth speakers throughout with a microphone, stripper pole, couches, 2 showers, 2 bathrooms, 2 tvs, 2 refrigerators full of anything you could possibly need
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6 hours in total, bill was about 550.000 COP. They have much cheaper options, as well as shorter periods of time.[/QUOTE]I am happy you discovered Ibiza. The best. But now I have a question: Hell, HOW MANY GIRLS did you take there??
If they were less than 5, taking that suite is what I call [I]overprovisioning[/I]...!! Congratulations, however. I feel envious.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2496373]Took the girls to Motel Ibiza on Friday night. It was my first time at a love motel in Medellin.

DiDi to the location, intercom to request a room (Presidencial), DiDi drives into your private garage, you walk upstairs, and.

2 beds, 10 person jacuzzi, bluetooth speakers throughout with a microphone, stripper pole, couches, 2 showers, 2 bathrooms, 2 tvs, 2 refrigerators full of anything you could possibly need (booze, drinks, food, vibrators, lube, condoms, and much much more). Menu for food, drinks, costumes / lingerie, etc. Our jacuzzi had an issue for the first hour, but after several calls they got it working. We also called to turn on the A / see and also to add some cold water to the 105 degree monstrous jacuzzi. We brought a bag of drinks but ended up having a few from the fridge, and bought a vibrator. 6 hours in total, bill was about 550.000 COP. They have much cheaper options, as well as shorter periods of time.

All-in-all, it was a good option. Especially, if you can't find an apartment with a jacuzzi, or you are priced out of options. Every girl I talked to about joining us already knew about the place. In normal times, I would imagine a night out in Palmahia with a group, followed by spending your night at Motel Ibiza or the like, would be a fun way to spend the night. A couple buddies with 4 girls could be one hell of a night.

Also, I extended my tourist permit until mid-December. The process was excruciating, because of how terrible the website was, but the eventual cost was 103.000 COP. My plan is to go home and come back in early January. Found a very nice apartment for Nov-Dec, but I have a week gap before then. I am looking into a finca to host a Halloween party, maybe. I'm just not sure if I want to commit to stocking up on groceries for the week, etc.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Nice report to spread some knowledge about the landscape. Keep the field reports coming. Since SJobs turned out to be a hot air blowing fictional character, really wondering what the current situation is with the chicas in MDE. The few I am in regular contact with say times are hard but somehow seem to be scraping by. They are definitely asking when I will be returning etc. So they definitley want the citas, but I am just trying to size up the situation.

I wish I knew about this option of ibiza the day I was at Porton Medellin and paid a chica fee of 150 mil! As much as the cita!

Cheers.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2496330]LOL. Man you know I am not thinking that way.[/QUOTE]Davivienda has been doing that since atleast 2018 that I know about. Whenever they ask if you would like to exchange, clicking no defaults you to the mastercard / visa rate which is much more favorable. For the uninformed it almost appears like the transaction will be terminated if you click no. But its just their way of trying to get you to accept their shitty rate.
I typically use davivienda because they charge no ATM fee and they are literally everywhere making finding a discrete and safe location (usually inside a mall for me) easy.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2496422]I wish I knew about this option of ibiza the day I was at Porton Medellin and paid a chica fee of 150 mil! As much as the cita!
Cheers.[/QUOTE]Not the only good place. There are tons of good love motels. I remember Punto Cero and others, plus this one, which I reported as "Super Chimba de Hotel":
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1547921&viewfull=1#post1547921[/URL]
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1548014&viewfull=1#post154801[/URL]
Look at the WT99's Medellin List. Ibiza is the best, probably.
(I notice some posts around those dates, where I was pretending to be scared by exagerated warnings by the US Dept. Guys, I was joking, but it was not a good joke).

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2496415]If you are that paranoid maybe you should pick another hobby?[/QUOTE]Not paranoid, Some people just enjoy not blinking and keeping the eyes on the predator. It's fun and it keeps one alive attentive and in the moment. It's like doing detective or monitoring work. Instead of feeling anxious Or worrying about danger it makes one feel confident and prepared. This "police work" isn't for everyone, you have to have the right frame of mind.

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lay down the law, fellas. 25,000 per hour, and I'm doing you a favor, here. And, She can have the ice cream.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2496164]As in you personally tried or your best spooning buddy tried and told you all about it during those intimate spooning moments you shared? Jajaja don't mind the sarcasm, I received the "The message you have entered is too short. Please lengthen your message to at least 10 characters" error message so this is my second try, jajjaja.[/QUOTE]I have known many girls over the past 10 years try to get a visa to the US. Unless they can demonstrate they clearly have motivation to return to Colombia, for example a professional level employment (for example a beautiful young lawyer I knew form Puerto Colombia was granted a visa to go to Disney World), legal husband and children, or property, they are rubber stamp denied. Forget it.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2496407]You only need to reserve in advance for one of the special suites. I've probably been there 20 times or more. I believe the base price for 6 hours is 89 k for 2 people. Extra charge for extra persons, plus charges for any mini-bar items.
They have a full menu available and a full sex store catalog as well.[/QUOTE]Here is the site with virtual tours of suites and rates:

[URL]https://motelibiza.com/[/URL]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2496228]Better yet go through one of the companies that cater to mongers.[/QUOTE]What companies are these, do you have any recommendations?

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2496434]I have known many girls over the past 10 years try to get a visa to the US. Unless they can demonstrate they clearly have motivation to return to Colombia, for example a professional level employment (for example a beautiful young lawyer I knew form Puerto Colombia was granted a visa to go to Disney World), legal husband and children, or property, they are rubber stamp denied. Forget it.[/QUOTE]I was close to a university student at one of Mexico's autonomous universities who earned a two week scholarship to San Antonio. It was more of a foreign exchange program where one side paid to go and the other side couldn't afford it. When she won it they automatically stamped her for a 10 year visa. Small school, she paid attention to what was offered, and hit it on the second try. If she's truly. Then there are scholarships.

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2496443]What companies are these, do you have any recommendations?[/QUOTE]Try Lifeafar investments, formerly First American Realty. They have a lot of apartments especially around Poblado. There's also Poblado Rentals, but I wouldn't recommend them. Too many people have horror stories about dealing with the owner. There's also Provenza True Content you can find on Facebook. Apartments I the Energy Living building and in San Peter apartments are generally chica friendly as well.

[QUOTE=Info1;2496453]I was close to a university student at one of Mexico's autonomous universities who earned a two week scholarship to San Antonio. It was more of a foreign exchange program where one side paid to go and the other side couldn't afford it. When she won it they automatically stamped her for a 10 year visa. Small school, she paid attention to what was offered, and hit it on the second try. If she's truly. Then there are scholarships.[/QUOTE]Not sure there are any scholarships being offered to go and sell pussy in Las Vegas.

I know a webcam model with a tourist Visa to the US. Pretty sure she owns her penthouse apartment. Know another webcam model who has been living in the US for several years. I know she has an ex, so she might have come on a fiancée visa. I know a couple of other girls who got visas to compete in tournaments in the US, one for cheerleading and one for volleyball. Pretty sure those were just short term performance visas.

As far as a Colombian getting a US Visa at this time, without a bunch of money, or a US fiancee, it's not very likely.

I struggle with that question too. As best I can tell there is an idea that the girls are somehow more innocent / classy / safe than others. I am a Centro rat so consider the source of these doubts.

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2496415]Again, why bother with SA? I have never heard of someone doing so much work in Medellin just to meet girls. If you read the forum there are guys that have written the names of contacts they have they can recommend. Food posioning? Are you planning to dine them? If you are that paranoid maybe you should pick another hobby?[/QUOTE]

I knew a girl Medellín for a couple of years, met her a few times. Her WhatsApp went unresponsive after the covid shutdown. As far as I know she is not on Facebook or other social media. I have a copy of her cedula. Any ideas how I can contact her? Just wanted to check if she is OK. I last met her in March and the last message from her on whatsapp was in April / May.

You said the magic word freebie LOL, though I am a solo artist. Sounds inviting. Maybe.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2496158]What about re-hiring me and letting me take you on a tour in El Centro, and the first lay is on me.

Maybe if Jbee2 is in town he could tag along as well.

Just imagine how much fun it would be, kind of like the three amigos on a stroll thru the park. Heck, we could even wear sombreros, I would wear my surf trunks and flip flops, you could wear your white shorts / sneakers and ball cap, and I have no clue what Jbee2 might wear, but I'm sure we would totally blend in with now one paying any attention to us.

A good time to be had for all.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Info1;2496453]I was close to a university student at one of Mexico's autonomous universities who earned a two week scholarship to San Antonio. It was more of a foreign exchange program where one side paid to go and the other side couldn't afford it. When she won it they automatically stamped her for a 10 year visa. Small school, she paid attention to what was offered, and hit it on the second try. If she's truly. Then there are scholarships.[/QUOTE]USA 10 year student visa? Come on man! There is no such visa.

For a 2 week scholarship? To San Antonio?

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2496228]
The porteros are not policemen.[/QUOTE]Yeah sorry for the mistake there. I double checked they work for private security company. It was becausee with their uniforms they look very much like officers of the law, so it's easy to naturally assume they are armedd. But they are not armed.

Yeah but I think is we are not all perfect and sometimes there are flawws in our posts but we should all try to keep it civil and remain friends. Sorry about that.

Hey how come if you guys think my jokes are not Funny, how come I think my jokes are funny? I'm not trolling here Guys this is an honest question.Honestly, guys.

Are there actually any funny guys in here? The escorts give you discounts for being funny?because don't women love funny guys?
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I told her, "You can have a free ice cream, baby."

[QUOTE=Frank11;2496489]Yeah sorry for the mistake there. I double checked they work for private security company. It was becausee with their uniforms they look very much like officers of the law, so it's easy to naturally assume they are armedd. But they are not armed.[/QUOTE]I've never mistaken a portero or a security guard for a policeman. The police here are really quite distinctive. They are dressed more like army personel than police men. And they usually have a bright reflective "policia" vest so they really stand out.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2496485]USA 10 year student visa? Come on man! There is no such visa.

For a 2 week scholarship? To San Antonio?[/QUOTE]Definitely possible. My ex-girlfriend from Brazil applied for a transit visa and they gave her a 10 year tourist visa as well. He never said the visa she received was a student visa. He just said that is what she applied for.

[QUOTE=Frank11;2496489]Yeah sorry for the mistake there. I double checked they work for private security company. It was becausee with their uniforms they look very much like officers of the law, so it's easy to naturally assume they are armedd. But they are not armed.

Yeah but I think is we are not all perfect and sometimes there are flawws in our posts but we should all try to keep it civil and remain friends. Sorry about that.

Hey how come if you guys think my jokes are not Funny, how come I think my jokes are funny? I'm not trolling here Guys this is an honest question.Honestly, guys.

Are there actually any funny guys in here? The escorts give you discounts for being funny?because don't women love funny guys?
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I told her, "You can have a free ice cream, baby."[/QUOTE]Funny you should mention that. Earlier today I was chatting with a girl in Medellin. When she asked what I was doing, I told her I was resting today. Too much work. She asked if I had to put in extra time at work to be able to take my vacation. However, the literal translation was "Do you have to work harder to come?

My answer "it depends on the position" earned a laugh from her.

[QUOTE=MSanchez;2496127]I'm currently in an airbnb near parque lleras and the doormen here are kind of a pain. Keep in mind I don't speak fluent spanish, but from what I gathered they are hesitant to allow visitors because they are afraid of a visitor bringing covid into the building. Again, I'm not 100% sure that's what the guard was saying to me but I'm pretty sure it was along the lines of that. Or that the girl I walked in was pretty obviously a working girl based on how she dressed and just her general demeanor but I never had a problem with it before in the Philippines. Or maybe the guard frowned upon letting working girls in and that was his polite way of saying to cut it out. And to be fair the airbnb listing did say "no sexual tourism" I guess.

Anyways just my experience so far, I guess I'll try using short time hotels from now on. Or try to build more of a rapport with the girl beforehand and say she's a friend or date or something. The girl I invited was straight from mileroticos. Great natural body, morena but mechanical service, I still have her contact info if anyone wants it but she's nothing special. Also, be careful about some of the lube some girls use for anal. Some of the lube they use has a numbing agent in it I guess to make anal more bearable for them but your dick will go numb if it gets on you too. Trust me.[/QUOTE]I always send airbnb host a message asking if it's okay to bring visitor to the building. Most say no, but some say yes and go with it. It is hard to find a good place that is visitor friendly.

And the numbing agent is lidocaine, you can buy it separately from lube.

How strict is mask wearing in Medellin? Do you have to wear them walking down the street? Thanks.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2496228]Let me correct this.

The job description is unarmed security guard. [/QUOTE]I realize that everything else you said in your post is accurate and the part about "unarmed security guard" is even probably true in most buildings. But the head security guy at Edificio Energy Living carries is a semi-automatic pistol in a holster.

[QUOTE=Frank11;2496489]

Hey how come if you guys think my jokes are not Funny, how come I think my jokes are funny? I'm not trolling here Guys this is an honest question.Honestly, guys.

Are there actually any funny guys in here?
I told her, "You can have a free ice cream, baby."[/QUOTE]Funny does not come across well in a typed post where people come looking for information. Sarcasm, and all that just does not come over in typed print and the context is all wrong. Not to mention not everyone has the same sense of humor. If your friends and family think you are funny it is because they know you and the context is conducive to humor.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2496499]Definitely possible. My ex-girlfriend from Brazil applied for a transit visa and they gave her a 10 year tourist visa as well. He never said the visa she received was a student visa. He just said that is what she applied for.[/QUOTE]The student visa is for a specific school and the visa holder must be a full time student. The length of a student visa does not mean anything if the student is not a student at the same school anymore. Tuition is not cheap in US so the student must be able to afford it or be able to get a scholarship. For some student visa is easy but for most it is not easy.

[QUOTE=TopoChico571;2496524]How strict is mask wearing in Medellin? Do you have to wear them walking down the street? Thanks.[/QUOTE]No you don't have to, but they require you to use it when you enter in a shop or even in a restaurant, which is so stupid, because as soon as you seat you can remove it. But people are stupid, there is nothing you can do about that.

Theres a possibility that your 72 hour covid test is delayed with results which could be disastrous. So take one a day before and day of 72 hrs. Double the chances of getting test results.

I see majority of people wearing masks while walking but I don't see anyone getting stopped if they aren't.

Some stores will not serve you unless you wear a mask.

The funniest thing I see that some restaurants / stores spray your hand and soles of shoes with disinfectants when you walk in. The hands I get but shoe soles? No idea why that is important given that a person can be carrying germs on their clothes and every part of their exposed skin!!

[QUOTE=TopoChico571;2496524]How strict is mask wearing in Medellin? Do you have to wear them walking down the street? Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blakman;2496610]Theres a possibility that your 72 hour covid test is delayed with results which could be disastrous. So take one a day before and day of 72 hrs. Double the chances of getting test results.[/QUOTE]Problem with that is some people are mentioning paying $200 for a test.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2496485]USA 10 year student visa? Come on man! There is no such visa.

For a 2 week scholarship? To San Antonio?[/QUOTE]It was a 10 year visa to enter the country, not a student visa. Instead of giving her a limited visa for the time she was going to be in SA.

Thought some of you folks in Medellin might appreciate this. This is a boiled down list of girls from mileroticos and photoprepagos from the last 7 days. Just open the file in your browser of choice. Had to zip it because ISG won't let me upload html files.

[QUOTE=Luminous;2496624]I see majority of people wearing masks while walking but I don't see anyone getting stopped if they aren't.

Some stores will not serve you unless you wear a mask.

The funniest thing I see that some restaurants / stores spray your hand and soles of shoes with disinfectants when you walk in. The hands I get but shoe soles? No idea why that is important given that a person can be carrying germs on their clothes and every part of their exposed skin!![/QUOTE]Covid virus doesn't stay in the air forever. It drops to the ground. This is one reason you should never eat anything that has been on the ground. In Mexico places had a mat with disinfectant and a mat to dry off as you walked into places.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2496627]Problem with that is some people are mentioning paying $200 for a test.[/QUOTE]Same day test results in Southern California are running from between $275 to $400 for the PCR test. If they take the sample at 8 AM they have results that afternoon. Not cheap and I guess it's good Colombia is allowing a 96 hour window versus 72 hours like other Countries.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2496499]Definitely possible. My ex-girlfriend from Brazil applied for a transit visa and they gave her a 10 year tourist visa as well. He never said the visa she received was a student visa. He just said that is what she applied for.[/QUOTE]It's highly unlikely it was 10 years but just enough for school.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2496420]I am happy you discovered Ibiza. The best. But now I have a question: Hell, HOW MANY GIRLS did you take there??
If they were less than 5, taking that suite is what I call [I]overprovisioning[/I]...!! Congratulations, however. I feel envious.[/QUOTE]Just 2, but my hotel is girl-friendly (they check cedula). So, it was one of those situations where if I was going to do it, I was going all-in. Now, I know that if it is a short-time, I only need the basic / cheapest option. If I have a large party, I know exactly what to expect. 550.000 or 89.000 is not going to change my night or trip or life, so I don't regret what could be viewed as an overpayment. It was an experience.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2496407]You only need to reserve in advance for one of the special suites. I've probably been there 20 times or more. I believe the base price for 6 hours is 89 k for 2 people. Extra charge for extra persons, plus charges for any mini-bar items.

They have a full menu available and a full sex store catalog as well.[/QUOTE]I'm not 100% sure on this, but they did not allow me to reserve the Presidencial or Mansion. I was told to arrive early or have some one go by ahead of time to pay. I arrived just after 10 p and both were available on a Friday night.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2496422]Nice report to spread some knowledge about the landscape. Keep the field reports coming. Since SJobs turned out to be a hot air blowing fictional character, really wondering what the current situation is with the chicas in MDE. The few I am in regular contact with say times are hard but somehow seem to be scraping by. They are definitely asking when I will be returning etc. So they definitley want the citas, but I am just trying to size up the situation.

I wish I knew about this option of ibiza the day I was at Porton Medellin and paid a chica fee of 150 mil! As much as the cita!

Cheers.[/QUOTE]SJobs. What a bust. The forum has kind of flown off the rails, since the air was let out of that balloon. I was looking forward to those reports, after all the build up. Oh well. I witnessed a very good-looking mid 20's MILF in a gringo sports bar by herself, last night. I expected a gringo to walk in and join her, but instead, a 65-70 yo gringo finally bellied-up to her table. What a legend. Typical high-end Paisa look, nice tan, body, fake tits, smile, hair, clothing. I'd imagine she wasn't planning on negotiating, but who knows. There were a couple crews of girls at Bendito Seas, last Thursday night. There were also plenty of girls roaming Parque Lleras, the last few times I walked by. One pair of sisters that were pretty decent.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2496641]Same day test results in Southern California are running from between $275 to $400 for the PCR test. If they take the sample at 8 AM they have results that afternoon. Not cheap and I guess it's good Colombia is allowing a 96 hour window versus 72 hours like other Countries.[/QUOTE]Similar prices here in Dallas, TX.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2496682]Just 2, but my hotel is girl-friendly (they check cedula). So, it was one of those situations where if I was going to do it, I was going all-in. Now, I know that if it is a short-time, I only need the basic / cheapest option. If I have a large party, I know exactly what to expect. 550.000 or 89.000 is not going to change my night or trip or life, so I don't regret what could be viewed as an overpayment. It was an experience.

I'm not 100% sure on this, but they did not allow me to reserve the Presidencial or Mansion. I was told to arrive early or have some one go by ahead of time to pay. I arrived just after 10 p and both were available on a Friday night.

SJobs. What a bust. The forum has kind of flown off the rails, since the air was let out of that balloon. I was looking forward to those reports, after all the build up. Oh well. I witnessed a very good-looking mid 20's MILF in a gringo sports bar by herself, last night. I expected a gringo to walk in and join her, but instead, a 65-70 yo gringo finally bellied-up to her table. What a legend. Typical high-end Paisa look, nice tan, body, fake tits, smile, hair, clothing. I'd imagine she wasn't planning on negotiating, but who knows. There were a couple crews of girls at Bendito Seas, last Thursday night. There were also plenty of girls roaming Parque Lleras, the last few times I walked by. One pair of sisters that were pretty decent.[/QUOTE]Gentlemen just use a fake test template and fill in your name. Your airline nor immigration / customs is checking anything other then the word negative and PCR on the test result. People are flying into Colombia with hundreds of different letters saying they are not negative. They cannot verify any of them.

Showdown.

[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2496603]No you don't have to, but they require you to use it when you enter in a shop or even in a restaurant, which is so stupid, because as soon as you seat you can remove it. But people are stupid, there is nothing you can do about that.[/QUOTE]There are always exceptions. Some friends and I went to the food court at the Unicentro mall. A couple took off their mask while we were seated waiting for our food. A security guard came by and said everyone must wear a mask while waiting. I think the directive is that you must wear a mask at all times when you are outside, but it's up to the police to enforce it.

[QUOTE=Showdown;2496692]Gentlemen just use a fake test template and fill in your name. Your airline nor immigration / customs is checking anything other then the word negative and PCR on the test result. People are flying into Colombia with hundreds of different letters saying they are not negative. They cannot verify any of them.[/QUOTE]I had two PCR tests and neither of them had the word "Negative" anywhere on the report. Both stated "Not detected".

[QUOTE=MSanchez;2496127]I'm currently in an airbnb near parque lleras and the doormen here are kind of a pain. Keep in mind I don't speak fluent spanish, but from what I gathered they are hesitant to allow visitors because they are afraid of a visitor bringing covid into the building. Again, I'm not 100% sure that's what the guard was saying to me but I'm pretty sure it was along the lines of that. Or that the girl I walked in was pretty obviously a working girl based on how she dressed and just her general demeanor but I never had a problem with it before in the Philippines. Or maybe the guard frowned upon letting working girls in and that was his polite way of saying to cut it out. And to be fair the airbnb listing did say "no sexual tourism" I guess.

Anyways just my experience so far, I guess I'll try using short time hotels from now on. Or try to build more of a rapport with the girl beforehand and say she's a friend or date or something. The girl I invited was straight from mileroticos. Great natural body, morena but mechanical service, I still have her contact info if anyone wants it but she's nothing special. Also, be careful about some of the lube some girls use for anal. Some of the lube they use has a numbing agent in it I guess to make anal more bearable for them but your dick will go numb if it gets on you too. Trust me.[/QUOTE]There's so much here.

If you rent a place that specifically states "no sexual tourism", why would you think it's just a doorman problem when you try to bring in an obvious prostitute? If you went to a vegan restaurant and they don't have steak on the menu would you suspect the waiter of trying to ruin your meal?

There's no asterisk under any of the "no sex tourism" signs or listings (*this applies to everyone but you). If you're bringing in hookers anyway, I expect you will very shortly be looking for another place to stay and you probably won't be getting a refund since you violated the host rules. My suggestion is to start looking for another place immediately, because the portero has probably already informed your host.

[QUOTE=Showdown;2496692]Gentlemen just use a fake test template and fill in your name. Your airline nor immigration / customs is checking anything other then the word negative and PCR on the test result. People are flying into Colombia with hundreds of different letters saying they are not negative. They cannot verify any of them.

Showdown.[/QUOTE]This is an excellent example of terrible advice.

Get tested. You might have to jump through hoops, there may be difficulties or added expenses to get the results within the 96 hour window. If you have no other option, you probably should stay home.

Colombia isn't stupid. If everyone just skips the test and uses a fake template, they will eventually catch on. When that happens it's probably going to become a lot more difficult for everyone else.

That's without considering that you might be bringing in the virus, sharing it with a bunch of working girls, who are going to share it with a bunch of other mongers.

[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2496603]No you don't have to, but they require you to use it when you enter in a shop or even in a restaurant, which is so stupid, because as soon as you seat you can remove it. But people are stupid, there is nothing you can do about that.[/QUOTE]You can always call people out for being stupid. However, most people seem to get upset when I do it.

It's a rule. If the restaurant or store is enforcing the rule, they are merely doing what they feel is best. They understand there may be consequences for not enforcing the rule. If you don't want to wear a mask, don't go to a country or city that requires you to wear a mask.

If the restaurant wants you to wear a mask, don't be stupid. Wear a mask. Don't argue with them. Don't be another obnoxious gringo. Just wear the mask. It's not going to hurt you. It's a minor inconvenience at most.

Members beware to check hotel rules and buildings security front desk polity. Ask your AirBnb host about these rules upfront, to avoid any surprises. This new two visitor policy per stay is VERY annoying, it has to do with COVID or not sure what else. Also, AirBnb options are quite limited, for some reason.

[QUOTE=Showdown;2496692]Gentlemen just use a fake test template and fill in your name. Your airline nor immigration / customs is checking anything other then the word negative and PCR on the test result. People are flying into Colombia with hundreds of different letters saying they are not negative. They cannot verify any of them.

Showdown.[/QUOTE]IF you're "not negative" you're positive!

[QUOTE=SeanEZ;2496718]Members beware to check hotel rules and buildings security front desk polity. Ask your AirBnb host about these rules upfront, to avoid any surprises. This new two visitor policy per stay is VERY annoying, it has to do with COVID or not sure what else. Also, AirBnb options are quite limited, for some reason.[/QUOTE]What new 2 visitor policy are you referring to, is this an individual hotel, all hotels, city wide or country wide? Care to elaborate?

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2496697]I had two PCR tests and neither of them had the word "Negative" anywhere on the report. Both stated "Not detected".[/QUOTE]Not surprised at all. Aren't we all familiar with the STD test that comes back "Non-Reactive".

It works out sometimes to be cheapy charley. Sincerely though i saw a couple and family not allowed to travel for lack of documentation. Luckily i did consecutive. Cuz my 72 results came after i hit paydirt.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2496627]Problem with that is some people are mentioning paying $200 for a test.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2496631]Thought some of you folks in Medellin might appreciate this. This is a boiled down list of girls from mileroticos and photoprepagos from the last 7 days. Just open the file in your browser of choice. Had to zip it because ISG won't let me upload html files.[/QUOTE]Any reviews on these girls or just collection of the girls on milerticos?

[QUOTE=Frank11;2496489]Yeah sorry for the mistake there. I double checked they work for private security company. It was becausee with their uniforms they look very much like officers of the law, so it's easy to naturally assume they are armedd. But they are not armed.

Yeah but I think is we are not all perfect and sometimes there are flawws in our posts but we should all try to keep it civil and remain friends. Sorry about that.

Hey how come if you guys think my jokes are not Funny, how come I think my jokes are funny? I'm not trolling here Guys this is an honest question.Honestly, guys.

Are there actually any funny guys in here? The escorts give you discounts for being funny?because don't women love funny guys?
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I told her, "You can have a free ice cream, baby."[/QUOTE]If you can make her smile she will hold you hand, if you can make her laugh, she will follow you up the stairs to the bedroom.

Of those chicas I have asked, 90% have said it's true. Works for me. Just another tool in the armamentarium.

Finally, I don't know if this is a practical tip or not, but the least funny thing in the world is to analyze humor or talk about what is funny and what is not and why. Not saying you can't do it, us comedy writers do it all the time. But for Gawd's sake don't do it and expect a laugh.

Random gratuitous one of my girls sent me: "This is what's waiting for for you when you get back to Medellin".

[QUOTE=Stirling;2496725]IF you're "not negative" you're positive![/QUOTE]Sterling my negative test says this:

"Your COVID-19 test results are negative.

Thank you for taking a COVID-19 test. Your negative test results mean that you probably weren't infected when your sample was collected. However, your results do not rule out COVID-19. We used a Viral PCR test. Specimens processed by PCR-based technology are the only federally approved tests that can be used to make a diagnosis of COVID-19.

Showdown.

[QUOTE=MMHikeus;2496476]I knew a girl Medelln for a couple of years, met her a few times. Her WhatsApp went unresponsive after the covid shutdown. As far as I know she is not on Facebook or other social media. I have a copy of her cedula. Any ideas how I can contact her? Just wanted to check if she is OK. I last met her in March and the last message from her on whatsapp was in April / May.[/QUOTE]Since you did not specify "cheap" way to find her.

Gratuitous foto, that I guarantee you won't see anywhere else unless they steal it from here:

[QUOTE=SeanEZ;2496718]Members beware to check hotel rules and buildings security front desk polity. Ask your AirBnb host about these rules upfront, to avoid any surprises. This new two visitor policy per stay is VERY annoying, it has to do with COVID or not sure what else. Also, AirBnb options are quite limited, for some reason.[/QUOTE]It sounds like you are at Factory Lofts.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2496373]Took the girls to Motel Ibiza on Friday night. It was my first time at a love motel in Medellin.

DiDi to the location, intercom to request a room (Presidencial), DiDi drives into your private garage, you walk upstairs, and.

2 beds, 10 person jacuzzi, bluetooth speakers throughout with a microphone, stripper pole, couches, 2 showers, 2 bathrooms, 2 tvs, 2 refrigerators full of anything you could possibly need (booze, drinks, food, vibrators, lube, condoms, and much much more). Menu for food, drinks, costumes / lingerie, etc. Our jacuzzi had an issue for the first hour, but after several calls they got it working. We also called to turn on the A / see and also to add some cold water to the 105 degree monstrous jacuzzi. We brought a bag of drinks but ended up having a few from the fridge, and bought a vibrator. 6 hours in total, bill was about 550.000 COP. They have much cheaper options, as well as shorter periods of time.

All-in-all, it was a good option. Especially, if you can't find an apartment with a jacuzzi, or you are priced out of options. Every girl I talked to about joining us already knew about the place. In normal times, I would imagine a night out in Palmahia with a group, followed by spending your night at Motel Ibiza or the like, would be a fun way to spend the night. A couple buddies with 4 girls could be one hell of a night.

Also, I extended my tourist permit until mid-December. The process was excruciating, because of how terrible the website was, but the eventual cost was 103.000 COP. My plan is to go home and come back in early January. Found a very nice apartment for Nov-Dec, but I have a week gap before then. I am looking into a finca to host a Halloween party, maybe. I'm just not sure if I want to commit to stocking up on groceries for the week, etc.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Gentlemen, Love Hotels are a good option to consider for first meetings(where sex is the implied or expressed activity), special dates, small parties, and just getting out of the routine. Ibiza is the upper end in price. There are many, many others. They may even work for you when you have an unfilled of 1-3 night gap in your living accommodations. Mid-week they are extremely affordable. Hot water showers, jacuzzi if you wish. Anything can be delivered by the hotel or Rappi. Years ago I stayed in one in Barranquilla for several nights. Cheap with vital Air Conditioning! Drawbacks: Typically no windows, no WiFi, not a good place if you're going to be in all day. You might even meet some ladies hanging around. Be very discrete and respect the privacy and anonymity of couples.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2496641]Same day test results in Southern California are running from between $275 to $400 for the PCR test. If they take the sample at 8 AM they have results that afternoon. Not cheap and I guess it's good Colombia is allowing a 96 hour window versus 72 hours like other Countries.[/QUOTE]275+ to get a swab shoved up half-way to my brain? I'm having second thoughts.

Landed in Medellin after an 8 month break, stayed close to lleras. Most of the restaurants close to calle 40 survived and are thriving, the once interior specially calle 37 was devastated with lots of closures. It is a mixed bag, Provenza is wide open, so is the front section of lleras. Gustos is open with 50 girls and 50 guys, lots of WG in lleras park walking as usual looking for clients. I would say lleras is at 75 percent of 2019 activity. Girls are still 150,000 peso I. E 39 USD, very cheap, perfect combination of beauty, sex, service, and ease of finding. Nothing can beat Medellin.

I call my regular girls from my Whatsup list and had a blast as usual, I was glad to see them so were they.

Night clubs are still closed, but I have seen a lot of construction activity during day, I guess they are getting ready to open.

Been to Envigado for Lunch and most restaurants are open, they check temp, spray your shoe, give you the gel. Everyone has a mask on, weird but the new normal I guess.

Let us hope Covid is behind us.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2496738]Not surprised at all. Aren't we all familiar with the STD test that comes back "Non-Reactive".[/QUOTE]I thought that was the result for the ED test.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2496772]Gentlemen, Love Hotels are a good option to consider for first meetings(where sex is the implied or expressed activity), special dates, small parties, and just getting out of the routine. Ibiza is the upper end in price. There are many, many others. They may even work for you when you have an unfilled of 1-3 night gap in your living accommodations. Mid-week they are extremely affordable. Hot water showers, jacuzzi if you wish. Anything can be delivered by the hotel or Rappi. Years ago I stayed in one in Barranquilla for several nights. Cheap with vital Air Conditioning! Drawbacks: Typically no windows, no WiFi, not a good place if you're going to be in all day. You might even meet some ladies hanging around. Be very discrete and respect the privacy and anonymity of couples.[/QUOTE]There are some very basic rooms in Mayorista, last time I walked through, 3 hours for 17 k. Some in El Centro are 40 k for 4 hours. There are quite a few throughout the city. Your chicas probably know where to find one.

BTW, Ibiza has excellent WiFi. I've set up a few webcam shows from there with no problems.

I was in El Centro for first time in months Monday afternoon. Checked out several casas.

New Life presented 10 girls, four I liked. Half-hour costs 55, hour 90. Viewing but not choosing costs 3.

Aiffe presented 6 girls, one I considered. 50/80 viewing free.

Dulce Compania had 8 working, two I liked. 45/80, free.

Amigas Sexy showed 12, two or three for me. 45/80, free.

Chicas Punto Com presented 14, one I chose. 48/68, free I think to view.

Yakusa has been remodeled effectively. Four girls working, Coke 5.50/100.

Botero Plaza and Veracruz had fewer tourists, more vendors, some police, plenty of working girls. I liked looks of quite a few.

[QUOTE=TDC985;2496745]Any reviews on these girls or just collection of the girls on milerticos?[/QUOTE]If I've been with a girl, you may see some of my notes in the list. But obviously I can't fuck them all, nor would I want to. The point of the list is that its just easier to wade through. You don't get repeated ads from agencies that post every day. You don't get random dick pics. That's about it. You can find all the the girls in the list by yourself, but it would take you much longer going to mileroticos. Use it, or don't. As they say in the philippines: Up to you.

[QUOTE=DetJunky;2496797]Landed in Medellin after an 8 month break, stayed close to lleras. Most of the restaurants close to calle 40 survived and are thriving, the once interior specially calle 37 was devastated with lots of closures. It is a mixed bag, Provenza is wide open, so is the front section of lleras. Gustos is open with 50 girls and 50 guys, lots of WG in lleras park walking as usual looking for clients. I would say lleras is at 75 percent of 2019 activity. Girls are still 150,000 peso I. E 39 USD, very cheap, perfect combination of beauty, sex, service, and ease of finding. Nothing can beat Medellin.

I call my regular girls from my Whatsup list and had a blast as usual, I was glad to see them so were they.

Night clubs are still closed, but I have seen a lot of construction activity during day, I guess they are getting ready to open.

Been to Envigado for Lunch and most restaurants are open, they check temp, spray your shoe, give you the gel. Everyone has a mask on, weird but the new normal I guess.

Let us hope Covid is behind us.[/QUOTE]Are the guys prepagos too? Or are they just customers?

All the decent ones I spoke to want 200-250 K for each hour, 400 for 2 hours. Maybe your negotiation skills are better than mine.

[QUOTE=DetJunky;2496797]\Girls are still 150,000 peso I. E 39 USD, very cheap, perfect combination of beauty, sex, service, and ease of finding. Nothing can beat Medellin.
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[QUOTE=JjBee62;2496704]There's so much here.

If you rent a place that specifically states "no sexual tourism", why would you think it's just a doorman problem when you try to bring in an obvious prostitute? If you went to a vegan restaurant and they don't have steak on the menu would you suspect the waiter of trying to ruin your meal?

There's no asterisk under any of the "no sex tourism" signs or listings (*this applies to everyone but you). If you're bringing in hookers anyway, I expect you will very shortly be looking for another place to stay and you probably won't be getting a refund since you violated the host rules. My suggestion is to start looking for another place immediately, because the portero has probably already informed your host.[/QUOTE]In all my travels throughout the world Colombia is the only country in which I see ¨No sex tourism¨ signs in hotel rooms and elsewhere.

[QUOTE=Lugnut;2496753]It sounds like you are at Factory Lofts.[/QUOTE]My friend stayed at Factory Lofts (Laureles). He should have never stayed there. They have a nice rooftop bar but you cannot even invite your male friends for beers.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2496899]In all my travels throughout the world Colombia is the only country in which I see No sex tourism signs in hotel rooms and elsewhere.[/QUOTE]I've only seen that in Medellin. Other cities I have not seen those signs.

[QUOTE=Combo;2496782]275+ to get a swab shoved up half-way to my brain? I'm having second thoughts.[/QUOTE]I used to fly to Colombia for the weekend. Maybe arrive Thursday evening or Friday morning depending on flights and prices. Fly out Sunday or Monday. Now we have to pay $250 to $400 depending where you go to have the PCR test next day I have to go and stay a while for it to be worth it.

You will see anti sex tourism signs in airports in many of the hotspots. You also see them from time to time in immigration halls in the United States.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2496899]In all my travels throughout the world Colombia is the only country in which I see No sex tourism signs in hotel rooms and elsewhere.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Conick2000;2496908]I used to fly to Colombia for the weekend. Maybe arrive Thursday evening or Friday morning depending on flights and prices. Fly out Sunday or Monday. Now we have to pay $250 to $400 depending where you go to have the PCR test next day I have to go and stay a while for it to be worth it.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately the labs are taking advantage of the situation where somebody (travelers) need a very quick turnaround time to get a test result. And to further complicate things, a lot of labs don't run tests over the weekends, so as an example if you have flight on a Tuesday you may have a problem getting a test result within the time window required by Countries requiring a PCR test within 72 hours. Hence labs are offering same day test results with the test being taken early in the morning of which they charge a ton of money as you have pointed out.

[QUOTE=Conick2000;2496908]I used to fly to Colombia for the weekend. Maybe arrive Thursday evening or Friday morning depending on flights and prices. Fly out Sunday or Monday. Now we have to pay $250 to $400 depending where you go to have the PCR test next day I have to go and stay a while for it to be worth it.[/QUOTE]I read that Venezuela has discovered a cure for covid 19 which for me is better than a vaccine. If it is indeed successful that would bring an end to the need for tests or vaccine and the good times will be here again.

Or I just have to get some cream from jjbee and do me LOL. Only if the girl looks worth it will I pay more.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2496918]I read that Venezuela has discovered a cure for covid 19 which for me is better than a vaccine. If it is indeed successful that would bring an end to the need for tests or vaccine and the good times will be here again.[/QUOTE]That would be awesome, I hope it's true! They have some beautiful islands as well as women from what I've seen on YouTube. I've met a few in Medellin and are were very nice and seemed very educated. I'm not talking politics and would want to visit if things settle down which I'm sure they will if this is true.

[QUOTE=SeanEZ;2496904]My friend stayed at Factory Lofts (Laureles). He should have never stayed there. They have a nice rooftop bar but you cannot even invite your male friends for beers.[/QUOTE]I think I dodged a bullet. I almost booked an airbnb for that place since it has nice views of the city from one of the pic with good nice amenities. I read the guest policies and was turned off by it so didn't even bother to contact the host.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2496932]Or I just have to get some cream from jjbee and do me LOL. Only if the girl looks worth it will I pay more.[/QUOTE]Hey, I love women, and I respect them, And they love me. But this is great news very close to the 25,000 COP per hour worldwide gold standard. Standard recognized by the bankers And escorts in Switzerland.

I scheduled a seeking date towards the end of the year and the girl got impatient and message me an ultimatum " Like, hey man, let's meet soon, or it's off. " I said, "Beaaaach Pleasssse. "
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I treat a beach like 7-up. I never have. I never will. hahahahahahjajaja :)

[QUOTE=SeanEZ;2496718]Members beware to check hotel rules and buildings security front desk polity. Ask your AirBnb host about these rules upfront, to avoid any surprises. This new two visitor policy per stay is VERY annoying, it has to do with COVID or not sure what else. Also, AirBnb options are quite limited, for some reason.[/QUOTE]Any guys down there that is experiencing any problems with the lodging requirements. I looked through others sites and groups haven't heard any news of this. I was suspecting some of the hotels might implement this tactic. Which is why I'm not going to one of my usual stops, Estalar blue, which is cheap when I head down in December.

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2496950]That would be awesome, I hope it's true! They have some beautiful islands as well as women from what I've seen on YouTube. I've met a few in Medellin and are were very nice and seemed very educated. I'm not talking politics and would want to visit if things settle down which I'm sure they will if this is true.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't put much faith in that "cure."

[QUOTE=Frank11;2496954]Hey, I love women, and I respect them, And they love me. But this is great news very close to the 25,000 COP per hour worldwide gold standard. Standard recognized by the bankers And escorts in Switzerland.

I scheduled a seeking date towards the end of the year and the girl got impatient and message me an ultimatum " Like, hey man, let's meet soon, or it's off. " I said, "Beaaaach Pleasssse. "
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I treat a beach like 7-up. I never have. I never will. hahahahahahjajaja..[/QUOTE]You're trying to find dates on seeking, trying to set up dates 2 months in advance and think you're going to get anyone for 25k per hour?

I finally see the humor.

It's not impossible to find someone to agree to 25k for an hour. You might even end up keeping her for several hours without paying more. Depends on how long it takes the coroner to show up after she dies from the overdose of whatever drug she took.

However, instead of Seeking Arrangements, you need to be looking on "Seeking a spot on the sidewalk to curl up and pass out. " You don't even need to pay a subscription fee.

Surprised to not have read it, yet, but there are restrictions in place for this weekend.

Alcohol sales end at 6 pm on Friday, until maybe Monday or Tuesday.

Bars close at 10 pm.

I am not sure how strictly this will be enforced. Example: bars are to close at midnight, recently, and I was in one until 1 a. Bars were not allowed to serve alcohol, going back a month or so. One I was in was putting an empty Aguila Cero bottle in front of every customer that ordered a beer.

So, I don't quite know what to expect, but it certainly won't be some crazy Halloween night club vibe.

I'm considering a finca or other options, but I'm sure many locals are now doing the same, unfortunately. Every finca I have talked to, despite being available on AirBnB, etc. , is already rented.

TBH, I might plan to head back to Motel Ibiza and throw a party. The only downside is 96 k per person after the first 4. Of course, that, the rent, and the alcohol would all likely be paid for by yours truly. So, I'm going to try to keep tabs on this throughout the week. I asked a bar manager two nights ago about a possible ley seca this weekend and he confidently said no. I'm wondering if they have some tricks up their sleeves, or if I should be doing whatever it takes to uncover an option to assure I can spend the evening with a group of friends and not worry about the rules.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2496918]I read that Venezuela has discovered a cure for covid 19 which for me is better than a vaccine. [/QUOTE]SJobs must be there already. Just the idea that Maduro will save the world and USA is awesome by itself.

So, now we will see people further divided into new religions who will:

A) disregard any prudence and with baseball hat dive into bars because protected by hydroxychloroquine;.

B) open a "Maduro Fan Club" and request a visa for Venezuela to enjoy Venezolanas, instead of risking and hunting them in Medellin;.

C) stay at home and read ISG while waiting for better times.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2496917]Unfortunately the labs are taking advantage of the situation where somebody (travelers) need a very quick turnaround time to get a test result. And to further complicate things, a lot of labs don't run tests over the weekends, so as an example if you have flight on a Tuesday you may have a problem getting a test result within the time window required by Countries requiring a PCR test within 72 hours. Hence labs are offering same day test results with the test being taken early in the morning of which they charge a ton of money as you have pointed out.[/QUOTE]Yes one lab quoted me $325.00. They advised come at 8 am and we will have your test results back at noon. That's as much as the dam flight. I mainly do my mongering in Mexico now. Living in Texas those weekend trips are a lot easier but thought about going back to Medellíand but at that price I'll wait.

I read that free tests are available. I guess the problem is the turnaround time but I am still getting e-mails from the airlines that tell me there are no change fees if you need to postpone a flight reservation.

[QUOTE=Conick2000;2497004]Yes one lab quoted me $325.00. They advised come at 8 am and we will have your test results back at noon. That's as much as the dam flight. I mainly do my mongering in Mexico now. Living in Texas those weekend trips are a lot easier but thought about going back to Medelland but at that price I'll wait.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turgid;2496918]I read that Venezuela has discovered a cure for covid 19 which for me is better than a vaccine. If it is indeed successful that would bring an end to the need for tests or vaccine and the good times will be here again.[/QUOTE]You should share the link. But it does not matter. Fake News. Venezuela is not known for Big Pharma. Most the educated people with money left already. So the Scientists worth anything left the country months or years ago. Medical research costs big money. Venezuela has none. Common sense dictates that Venezuela finding anything is a super wet fantasy dream.

Honestly the humor needs work. I just want to stop you while you are ahead. I feel you though

[QUOTE=Frank11;2496954]Hey, I love women, and I respect them, And they love me. But this is great news very close to the 25,000 COP per hour worldwide gold standard. Standard recognized by the bankers And escorts in Switzerland.

I scheduled a seeking date towards the end of the year and the girl got impatient and message me an ultimatum " Like, hey man, let's meet soon, or it's off. " I said, "Beaaaach Pleasssse. "
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I treat a beach like 7-up. I never have. I never will. hahahahahahjajaja :)[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2496917]Unfortunately the labs are taking advantage of the situation where somebody (travelers) need a very quick turnaround time to get a test result. And to further complicate things, a lot of labs don't run tests over the weekends, so as an example if you have flight on a Tuesday you may have a problem getting a test result within the time window required by Countries requiring a PCR test within 72 hours. Hence labs are offering same day test results with the test being taken early in the morning of which they charge a ton of money as you have pointed out.[/QUOTE]Some 72 hours ones is from the date of the report, not the date of the test. Also, some count only working days so weekend days are not counted.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2496984]SJobs must be there already. Just the idea that Maduro will save the world and USA is awesome by itself.

So, now we will see people further divided into new religions who will:

A) disregard any prudence and with baseball hat dive into bars because protected by hydroxychloroquine;.

B) open a "Maduro Fan Club" and request a visa for Venezuela to enjoy Venezolanas, instead of risking and hunting them in Medellin;.

C) stay at home and read ISG while waiting for better times.[/QUOTE]One "religion" you left out.

D) those who have a collection of life size blow up dolls to amuse themselves to ride out the Pandemic.

Any experience with Mariana Palacio? I am thinking of inviting her over this weekend. [URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100025134068072[/URL].

200 y taxi.

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2496950]That would be awesome, I hope it's true! They have some beautiful islands as well as women from what I've seen on YouTube.[/QUOTE]Venezuela can not even provide itself with electricity and internet. Whenever I talk to a friend in Venezuela they have a brownout. You think they actually have been able to find a cure?

Maybe Maduro agreed to market the Russian vaccine on behalf of Putin. Anyone who takes it, let us know how you make out.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2497043]Venezuela can not even provide itself with electricity and internet. Whenever I talk to a friend in Venezuela they have a brownout. You think they actually have been able to find a cure?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nounce;2497027]Some 72 hours ones is from the date of the report, not the date of the test. Also, some count only working days so weekend days are not counted.[/QUOTE]It's 96 hours from the date of the sample, not the test.

[QUOTE=Noamsadovnik;2497041]Any experience with Mariana Palacio? I am thinking of inviting her over this weekend. [URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100025134068072[/URL].

200 y taxi.[/QUOTE]Is there like a central database somewhere? Haha with all the girls and options here in Medellin I find it hard to match up with the same girls unless your going to Gusto / Isla every day.

[QUOTE=Conick2000;2497004]Yes one lab quoted me $325.00. They advised come at 8 am and we will have your test results back at noon. That's as much as the dam flight. I mainly do my mongering in Mexico now. Living in Texas those weekend trips are a lot easier but thought about going back to Medelland but at that price I'll wait.[/QUOTE]I got mine for 140,000 peso and it was a 3 hour turn around. Just ask a Colombian where they might have gotten theirs or look on medellin facebook groups on where to get them cheap.

[QUOTE=TDC985;2496952]I think I dodged a bullet. I almost booked an airbnb for that place since it has nice views of the city from one of the pic with good nice amenities. I read the guest policies and was turned off by it so didn't even bother to contact the host.[/QUOTE]I booked the place. The first 3 guests are free, then you have to pay 100000 COP per guest. It's stated in the house rules on the ad on AirBnb, which I didn't read when I booked. I mean, I avoided the hotel because people here told me about a sort of COVID policy, and I booked that place to be independent. Then I discover about the rules. I left after 4 days (and 4 guests), which I didn't pay for. I changed the reservation. They asked me the money for the last guest, which I didn't pay, of course. The guy at the reception was indirectly asking for a propina to not register the guests. I don't like this stuff. They authorized the change of dates, because I forced the rules. The others don't and pay. I'm no fool. Got another apartment, totally independent, with two bathrooms and all the possible amenities. Laureles Lofts is a scam, be aware.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2497043]Venezuela can not even provide itself with electricity and internet. Whenever I talk to a friend in Venezuela they have a brownout. You think they actually have been able to find a cure?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2497045]Maybe Maduro agreed to market the Russian vaccine on behalf of Putin. Anyone who takes it, let us know how you make out.[/QUOTE]What they said.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2497017]I read that free tests are available. I guess the problem is the turnaround time but I am still getting e-mails from the airlines that tell me there are no change fees if you need to postpone a flight reservation.[/QUOTE]Depends on where you are. Free tests are available, with insurance some places with 48 hour results. Other places free, but 72 hours or longer for results, not counting weekends. There's a place in Fort Lauderdale with 24 hour results for $179. They don't accept any insurance. With my schedule that seems to be my best option. Fly into Miami Friday, get the test first thing Monday then fly on to Medellin Tuesday.

[QUOTE=Noamsadovnik;2497041]Any experience with Mariana Palacio? I am thinking of inviting her over this weekend. [URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100025134068072[/URL].

200 y taxi.[/QUOTE]That is one fine little pop tart. Thanks for posting. Sorry, no experience. Anyone here listen to the economist weekly audio news. They often have an audio named Bello. I could never figure out where the hell Bello actually is. Then I saw it listed on the poptart' s Facebook page. Bello, Antioquia.

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The worldwide gold standard must be respected. 25,000 COP per hour, and I'm doing you a favor here.

[QUOTE=Noamsadovnik;2497041]Any experience with Mariana Palacio? I am thinking of inviting her over this weekend. [URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100025134068072[/URL].

200 y taxi.[/QUOTE]I had a decent time with her early 2019 and then reccomended her to a punter early this year. His experience was really bad. I think he wrote about it here. She was high, shorted him time, didn't perform, had some vag. Drainage and there was plenty of drama and threats etc. Our conclusion (i spoke with him after) was that she had gone probably off the deep end with drugs etc.

I have taken her off my FB list.

She also looks less attractive than her pics once the clothes come off.

[QUOTE=Noamsadovnik;2497041]Any experience with Mariana Palacio? I am thinking of inviting her over this weekend. [URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100025134068072[/URL].

200 y taxi.[/QUOTE]I can second GeneHickman. Her career is in taking advantage of gringos. TLDR: You're better off looking for Mother Teresa's pubes.

[QUOTE=Tomcat88;2496812]I was in El Centro for first time in months Monday afternoon. Checked out several casas.

New Life presented 10 girls, four I liked. Half-hour costs 55, hour 90. Viewing but not choosing costs 3.

Aiffe presented 6 girls, one I considered. 50/80 viewing free.

Dulce Compania had 8 working, two I liked. 45/80, free.

Amigas Sexy showed 12, two or three for me. 45/80, free.

Chicas Punto Com presented 14, one I chose. 48/68, free I think to view.

Yakusa has been remodeled effectively. Four girls working, Coke 5.50/100.

Botero Plaza and Veracruz had fewer tourists, more vendors, some police, plenty of working girls. I liked looks of quite a few.[/QUOTE]Very useful post, one of the most useful I have read since joining not so long ago.

Thank you for the Intel.

Gratuitous foto that failed to load from one of my previous posts, sent to me from one of my regular Chicas, "I'm waiting for you. . . ".

As always I guarantee you will never see any of my photos anywhere else unless they were ripped off from here. As I was typing that I just realized what a stupid mistake I may have committed. For example, this photo was sent to me by one of my favorite girls. For all I know, she spread that same foto all over the Internet. So moving forward, I will specify the photo was sent to me, or I took it myself, the latter being the case 82.3354 percent of the time. If you understand the meaning of significant digits, then you will get the joke. Drops mike second time.

I decide to invite a young lady over who never ask for money and be very frank that she wants sex. I always give her a few gifts. I gave her address and she was pretty much on time. She came into the apartment and liked it immediately. Its nicely decorated but too close to the main road. You hear everything passing by. I had music going and tried the porn on my firestick. She didn't mind. Few kisses on her back and she was stripping and stripping me. She loves to tease and seduce and I love it too. Oh I forgot to mentioned I offered her moscati wine that I imported in my suitcase. Somebody tell slapmotel I am moving up in the world LOL. Anyways man she put on a nice show sucking dick and in record time had stuff shooting out. Man I was making so much noise. Going to have to hit up security. I was all set. I had nothing left. Old age is kicking in. Anyways I offered to warm up some pizza to pass time. And while it was warming we shift to the bedroom. Got my condom had her prep me to get hard. My mood was like let me fuck and get this over rather than I am going to fuck the shit out you. Times are really changing. Anyways she cum quickly and came again and again and I was okay she good let me check on the pizza and call it a night LOL. And so we finished up having pizza. Chill watch a few shows. She stay 3 hrs. I gave her a dress, a bag, and a top. She loved them all total $22. She paid for the cab. I think she's heading to another session. My old ass is heading to bed.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2497043]Venezuela can not even provide itself with electricity and internet. [/QUOTE]This seems to be common in Venezuela, even before the virus.

I used to have an online teacher and I had to stop lessons with her because half of the time, she didn't have any electricity and internet.

The situation is quite sad in that country.

Anyone have any experience using this colombiancupid website? I heard alot about SA, but I don't think I came across anyone talking about this? What are you experiences? Would be nice doing a normal dates once a while and see how that goes. Much appreciated. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2497017]I read that free tests are available. I guess the problem is the turnaround time but I am still getting e-mails from the airlines that tell me there are no change fees if you need to postpone a flight reservation.[/QUOTE]Yes, they are charging you for expediting. The test is free if you meet certain criteria. Also most insurances cover it. You want it the same day or the next day in time for a flight. You are going to pay.

[QUOTE=Conick2000;2497092]Yes, they are charging you for expediting. The test is free if you meet certain criteria. Also most insurances cover it. You want it the same day or the next day in time for a flight. You are going to pay.[/QUOTE]I came back from Brazil 2 weeks ago, and my wife said I could not come home without a negative test. We have small children in our house. I went to the far rockaway section of Queens and got a rapid test as soon as I left JFK. It was free, and I got my results in less than an hour. COVID 19 test.

For all I know she sent same fotos out to a hundred other Gringos at the same time but worth a look. Recall, she is "Best Overall Body" in my line up, at number Four, or is it Five, fuck I've been away too long. The message that came attached to the photos, "Quiero que me folles," jeje. Soon, bebe, very soon.

[QUOTE=Deldarunna;2497103]I came back from Brazil 2 weeks ago, and my wife said I could not come home without a negative test. We have small children in our house. I went to the far rockaway section of Queens and got a rapid test as soon as I left JFK. It was free, and I got my results in less than an hour. COVID 19 test.[/QUOTE]Anyone know any free covid-19 test near San Francisco where individuals can get their test score within 96 hours?

[QUOTE=TDC985;2497091]Anyone have any experience using this colombiancupid website? I heard alot about SA, but I don't think I came across anyone talking about this? What are you experiences? Would be nice doing a normal dates once a while and see how that goes. Much appreciated. Thanks.[/QUOTE]In Medellin most girls are either prepagos or Sugar babies (post pago), so just about any girl will want money, if you date via Colombiancupid, Amigos, SA, SB they want money for full access, usually a lot like 1 or 2 M peso when they need it for unlimited sex. Usual street girls, casa girls, Gusto girls, facebook girls are paid per session usually 150,000 peso or 39 USD. I have always had sugar babies in Medellin and I love it, we called post pago (pay after) girls vs WG are called prepagos (prepaid).

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2497057]Depends on where you are. Free tests are available, with insurance some places with 48 hour results. Other places free, but 72 hours or longer for results, not counting weekends. There's a place in Fort Lauderdale with 24 hour results for $179. They don't accept any insurance. With my schedule that seems to be my best option. Fly into Miami Friday, get the test first thing Monday then fly on to Medellin Tuesday.[/QUOTE]My insurance paid for PCR and usual deductible applies, I traveled 4 times and they paid for all the tests.

[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2497048]It's 96 hours from the date of the sample, not the test.[/QUOTE]We are not talking about Colombia.

At how many Americans come to Colombia to be have their freedoms limited. You are staying in Poblado and you are paying three times to five times to going rate for rent. Why would you allow anyone to tell you what you can or cannot do in an apartment that you are paying that much for? Maybe that's just acceptable for some of you guys, not me. I refuse to be anywhere that my freedoms are limited. Mongering is legal in Colombia, it may not be tolerated as much in Poblado, but I refuse to pay 5 times the going rate to be told who I can bring and cannot bring into my apartment. I am leaving soon, but what I have established is this, next year I will have a rental history, proof that I have rented an apartment in Medellin for the past year and that will give me the going rate for anywhere I want to live in Medellin. Everyone has their own preference, but don't come to board complaining about rules that you freely accept. The sooner that you put a demand on your money the sooner you will have freedoms about the places that you rent. Pollo Negro is out!

You can go with 4 to 5 street girls for 150,000, unless the street you are referring to borders Parque Lleras.

[QUOTE=DetJunky;2497208]In Medellin most girls are either prepagos or Sugar babies (post pago), so just about any girl will want money, if you date via Colombiancupid, Amigos, SA, SB they want money for full access, usually a lot like 1 or 2 M peso when they need it for unlimited sex. Usual street girls, casa girls, Gusto girls, facebook girls are paid per session usually 150,000 peso or 39 USD. I have always had sugar babies in Medellin and I love it, we called post pago (pay after) girls vs WG are called prepagos (prepaid).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Deldarunna;2497103]I came back from Brazil 2 weeks ago, and my wife said I could not come home without a negative test. We have small children in our house. I went to the far rockaway section of Queens and got a rapid test as soon as I left JFK. It was free, and I got my results in less than an hour. COVID 19 test.[/QUOTE]Okay yes, It can be an hour it can be 4 days buts it's not guaranteed. Also you mentioned you got back from Brazil you didn't need the results in a particular time frame. If you pay to expedited you are guaranteed the results in a particular time frame, which is good for someone with a flight to catch. Just because you got them in an hour does not mean that someone else will get them in an hour. It could be 3 days.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2497131]For all I know she sent same fotos out to a hundred other Gringos at the same time but worth a look. Recall, she is "Best Overall Body" in my line up, at number Four, or is it Five, fuck I've been away too long. The message that came attached to the photos, "Quiero que me folles," jeje. Soon, bebe, very soon.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing. Much appreciated. Glad your into skinny chicks. They need food too. LOL.

Personally for me this girl is a probably a 6 / 10 in terms of body. Girls like this are dime a dozen in asia. I come to Colombia to find girls with a wider caboose.

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2496950]That would be awesome, I hope it's true! They have some beautiful islands as well as women from what I've seen on YouTube. I've met a few in Medellin and are were very nice and seemed very educated. I'm not talking politics and would want to visit if things settle down which I'm sure they will if this is true.[/QUOTE]I keep re-reading my post and still can't find where it says I believe that there's a cure in Venezuela. I said and will repeat that it would be awesome if there was a cure in Venezuela. It would also be awesome if a cure or vaccine " is around the corner". It would also be awesome if it went away this past summer like president s. Jobs said it would and that the pillow guy really had a cure.

I don't have a love affair with Maduro or the North Korean dictator either.

Most likely there is no cure or vaccine in Venezuela and no cure or vaccine anywhere soon. The Russians s claim to have one too but that's doubtful.

[QUOTE=Noamsadovnik;2497041]Any experience with Mariana Palacio? I am thinking of inviting her over this weekend. [URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100025134068072[/URL].

200 y taxi.[/QUOTE]Is not worth it. She has sold me bad product before. The session was not good, she had weird body odor and she does a lot of drugs. I would stay away from this Bello thug.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2497077]I decide to invite a young lady over who never ask for money and be very frank that she wants sex. I always give her a few gifts. I gave her address and she was pretty much on time. She came into the apartment and liked it immediately. Its nicely decorated but too close to the main road. You hear everything passing by. I had music going and tried the porn on my firestick. She didn't mind. Few kisses on her back and she was stripping and stripping me. She loves to tease and seduce and I love it too. Oh I forgot to mentioned I offered her moscati wine that I imported in my suitcase. Somebody tell slapmotel I am moving up in the world LOL. Anyways man she put on a nice show sucking dick and in record time had stuff shooting out. Man I was making so much noise. Going to have to hit up security. I was all set. I had nothing left. Old age is kicking in. Anyways I offered to warm up some pizza to pass time. And while it was warming we shift to the bedroom. Got my condom had her prep me to get hard. My mood was like let me fuck and get this over rather than I am going to fuck the shit out you. Times are really changing. Anyways she cum quickly and came again and again and I was okay she good let me check on the pizza and call it a night LOL. And so we finished up having pizza. Chill watch a few shows. She stay 3 hrs. I gave her a dress, a bag, and a top. She loved them all total $22. She paid for the cab. I think she's heading to another session. My old ass is heading to bed.[/QUOTE]I'm impressed, but like LeBron in Miami, you still have room for improvement. Importing cheap moscato is not terribly wise. There is plenty of cheap wine in Medellin. What you should bring is cheap thongs, bikinis, jewelry, bags, candy, perfume, etc. That don't take up much room. Although, if you're packing a bunch of white sneakers, jean shorts, and ball caps, I'm just impressed you fit anything extra in your suitcase. The dress, bag, and top was a nice touch. She'll be back, but it seems maybe the ship has sailed. Ask her about a friend or cousin. She'll arrange for her cut, or you can offer it.

Looking forward to your upcoming report about Lleras. I'm not expecting a Gustos report, but I'd recommend posting up across from the entrance, and loitering for a bit.

If I see a guy dressed up as Leon from Curb Your Enthusiasm on Saturday, I'm not saying shit about the costume. It might just be Blakman headed out for lunch.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2497281]Importing cheap moscato is not terribly wise. There is plenty of cheap wine in Medellin.[/QUOTE]Many years ago I brought to my beloved girl in Cartagena 1 kg of Parmigiano Reggiano (about 30 USD). She was special to me.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2497284]Many years ago I brought to my beloved girl in Cartagena 1 kg of Parmigiano Reggiano (about 30 USD). She was special to me.[/QUOTE]One girl I hooked up with as a freebie asked me for nutella. I went to exito and bought her the largest jar I could find for 27 k at the time. She was happy.

[QUOTE=DetJunky;2497209]My insurance paid for PCR and usual deductible applies, I traveled 4 times and they paid for all the tests.[/QUOTE]Mine will pay too. However, around here that means starting my vacation Monday, getting tested Monday, flying to Miami Wednesday and hoping my test results are back Thursday. Which gets me in Colombia 2 days later.

[QUOTE=TDC985;2497091]Anyone have any experience using this colombiancupid website? I heard alot about SA, but I don't think I came across anyone talking about this? What are you experiences? Would be nice doing a normal dates once a while and see how that goes. Much appreciated. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Very few prepagos use this Site, and unless you have strong Spanish speaking skills I wouldn't waste your time. Also, not a lot of the women are going to be interested in guys much older than them. Now if your around thirty years old and handsome which I am not, and speak Spanish you might do very well, but again it's not a prepago Site but I have gotten a few interests from Chicas trolling for a sugar daddy. And if I wanted to date someone my age I would do well as well, but I'm not going to be in Colombia to go on dates with women close to my age with their dried out pussies and flabby bodies!

How come every chick in Medellin, no matter what the age is 18 or 38, is busy with the University? These chicks can't be studying that much. I think that's just a code word for I can't right now.

Shoulda or did. Victoria secrets panties equals the thong and bikini. Every girl loves shoes. You have not thought of nothing I haven't. Actually I took a 2 mile calle 10 walk from exito up poblado. Shorts, tank top, comfy sandals. Look like a sculpted stud that doesn't need to pay a lot for some legs LOL. Better think twice fuck with me. I am just cooling this trip. Trying to stay away from covid.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2497281]I'm impressed, but like LeBron in Miami, you still have room for improvement. Importing cheap moscato is not terribly wise. There is plenty of cheap wine in Medellin. What you should bring is cheap thongs, bikinis, jewelry, bags, candy, perfume, etc. That don't take up much room. Although, if you're packing a bunch of white sneakers, jean shorts, and ball caps, I'm just impressed you fit anything extra in your suitcase. The dress, bag, and top was a nice touch. She'll be back, but it seems maybe the ship has sailed. Ask her about a friend or cousin. She'll arrange for her cut, or you can offer it.

Looking forward to your upcoming report about Lleras. I'm not expecting a Gustos report, but I'd recommend posting up across from the entrance, and loitering for a bit.

If I see a guy dressed up as Leon from Curb Your Enthusiasm on Saturday, I'm not saying shit about the costume. It might just be Blakman headed out for lunch.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2496978]Surprised to not have read it, yet, but there are restrictions in place for this weekend.

Alcohol sales end at 6 pm on Friday, until maybe Monday or Tuesday.

Bars close at 10 pm.

I am not sure how strictly this will be enforced. Example: bars are to close at midnight, recently, and I was in one until 1 a. Bars were not allowed to serve alcohol, going back a month or so. One I was in was putting an empty Aguila Cero bottle in front of every customer that ordered a beer.
So, I don't quite know what to expect, but it certainly won't be some crazy Halloween night club vibe.[/QUOTE]According to an article in VivirenPoblado today, they are going to deploy an additional 4,000 police to enforce the curfew / prohibition, and in another article all of the restaurants / bars are up in arms. A step backward in time but hopefully only for this coming weekend.

[QUOTE=DetJunky;2497208]In Medellin most girls are either prepagos or Sugar babies (post pago), so just about any girl will want money, if you date via Colombiancupid, Amigos, SA, SB they want money for full access, usually a lot like 1 or 2 M peso when they need it for unlimited sex. Usual street girls, casa girls, Gusto girls, facebook girls are paid per session usually 150,000 peso or 39 USD. I have always had sugar babies in Medellin and I love it, we called post pago (pay after) girls vs WG are called prepagos (prepaid).[/QUOTE]It's not even close to "most" girls are prepagos (the ones you call postpago are the true prepagos, they expect payment before you even meet them). Maybe 10%. Probably closer to 5%.

Most of the girls the gringos deal with in Medellin are prepagos, because gringos are mainly looking for prepagos, but gringos spend a lot of time chasing after some other gringos pussy.

Colombian Cupid is like any other dating site. There will be normal girls looking for a normal date. There will be hookers looking for customers. There will be scammers looking for suckers. There are plenty of older women 40+ looking for a husband.

If all you're looking for is some hookers, there are better options. If you're looking for actual, go to dinner, hold hands then go home and jerk off dates, it's a good choice.

[QUOTE=Luminous;2497304]How come every chick in Medellin, no matter what the age is 18 or 38, is busy with the University? These chicks can't be studying that much. I think that's just a code word for I can't right now.[/QUOTE]It is code for fucking another gringo.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2497305]Shoulda or did. Victoria secrets panties equals the thong and bikini. Every girl loves shoes. You have not thought of nothing I haven't. Actually I took a 2 mile calle 10 walk from exito up poblado. Shorts, tank top, comfy sandals. Look like a sculpted stud that doesn't need to pay a lot for some legs LOL. Better think twice fuck with me. I am just cooling this trip. Trying to stay away from covid.

.[/QUOTE]Atta boy! But no Fing way I'm packing extra shoes when you can buy knockoffs here.

I read taking vitamin D the helps protect from COVID, not sure if giving it helps, as well.

Go get a big breakfast at Sweet Georgia Cafe, one day, and let me know what you think. Likely no atmosphere, but it's better than arepa and platano. My other favorite is Al Alma, if you walk up to Provenza.

I'd say PM me for Halloween plans, but I'd guess it would be difficult to get you to contribute the Coin part, let alone the Bit, for a membership. Glad you're back. I was getting driven away by the forum chatter, since you left.

Thats my playoffs impersonation. The 4 month trip I went to 3 restaurants. Bro I am a legit cheapy charlie. As we text, i am negotiating over 20mil lol. Home Cook food is what I know. I don't even order in. Besides I am trying to get down to 15% fat. Platanos is good for you LOL. But thanks for info. Cartegena report? Worth it or not?

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2497324]Atta boy! But no Fing way I'm packing extra shoes when you can buy knockoffs here.

I read taking vitamin D the helps protect from COVID, not sure if giving it helps, as well.

Go get a big breakfast at Sweet Georgia Cafe, one day, and let me know what you think. Likely no atmosphere, but it's better than arepa and platano. My other favorite is Al Alma, if you walk up to Provenza.

I'd say PM me for Halloween plans, but I'd guess it would be difficult to get you to contribute the coin part, without even considering the bit, for a membership Glad you're back. I was getting driven away from the forum a bit, since you left.[/QUOTE].

I know this girl very well. I recommend her. Evelyn and she loves having pics taken.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2497131]For all I know she sent same fotos out to a hundred other Gringos at the same time but worth a look. Recall, she is "Best Overall Body" in my line up, at number Four, or is it Five, fuck I've been away too long. The message that came attached to the photos, "Quiero que me folles," jeje. Soon, bebe, very soon.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blakman;2497329]Thats my playoffs impersonation. The 4 month trip I went to 3 restaurants. Bro I am a legit cheapy charlie. As we text, i am negotiating over 20mil lol. Home Cook food is what I know. I don't even order in. Besides I am trying to get down to 15% fat. Platanos is good for you LOL. But thanks for info. Cartegena report? Worth it or not?

.[/QUOTE]No.

It's far more expensive and far less options. It's going to be tough to get down to 15% if you don't eat egg whites because you don't want to waste the yolk.

You are in the wrong businessman. Stop being an adult star and lets get this comedy career going. You are too funny man. Lmao. 3 boiled eggs 1 with the yolk.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2497345]No.

It's far more expensive and far less options. It's going to be tough to get down to 15% if you don't eat egg whites because you don't want to waste the yolk.[/QUOTE].

This post does not apply to this weekend (with curfew), but when I was in Medellin last weekend, I found two late-night options (not that there are not more):

1) Casa Blanca (White House) in Prado. It doesn't really even getting going until 2 am, but it's open earlier. Drinks, working girls (warning: most are ugly, so if you are planning to be with a working girl after, import one with you). Do NOT walk that neighborhood in the middle of the night.

2) Farenheit. Not sure how they are doing it, but gringo friend of mine told me that Farenheit is staying open until 3 am (used to stay open all night). Maybe it's because it's not in Medellin proper and is subject to different rules. But if you are looking for a club, this is an option.

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2497271]I keep re-reading my post and still can't find where it says I believe that there's a cure in Venezuela. I said and will repeat that it would be awesome if there was a cure in Venezuela. It would also be awesome if a cure or vaccine " is around the corner". It would also be awesome if it went away this past summer like president s. Jobs said it would and that the pillow guy really had a cure.

I don't have a love affair with Maduro or the North Korean dictator either.

Most likely there is no cure or vaccine in Venezuela and no cure or vaccine anywhere soon. The Russians s claim to have one too but that's doubtful.[/QUOTE]The RF has already three types of vaccines developed on different principles. The first one is a vector one based on human adenovirus, the second is totally synthetic and works well for anyone with allergies, the third one is based on the same platform that a vaccine against polio and encephalitis. Put your doubts aside. The first will be produced in Brazil and maybe in Venezuela next year.

[QUOTE=Deldarunna;2497103]I came back from Brazil 2 weeks ago, and my wife said I could not come home without a negative test. We have small children in our house. I went to the far rockaway section of Queens and got a rapid test as soon as I left JFK. It was free, and I got my results in less than an hour. COVID 19 test.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately rapid tests lack sensitivity, I. E. They are prone to false negatives. They may be useful as a means for someone to facilitate travel, but are unreliable, particularly in those with no symptoms.

Stirling.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2497268]Thanks for sharing. Much appreciated. Glad your into skinny chicks. They need food too. LOL.

Personally for me this girl is a probably a 6 / 10 in terms of body. Girls like this are dime a dozen in asia. I come to Colombia to find girls with a wider caboose.[/QUOTE]I love 'them all.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2497324]Atta boy! But no Fing way I'm packing extra shoes when you can buy knockoffs here.

I read taking vitamin D the helps protect from COVID, not sure if giving it helps, as well.

Go get a big breakfast at Sweet Georgia Cafe, one day, and let me know what you think. Likely no atmosphere, but it's better than arepa and platano. My other favorite is Al Alma, if you walk up to Provenza.

I'd say PM me for Halloween plans, but I'd guess it would be difficult to get you to contribute the Coin part, let alone the Bit, for a membership. Glad you're back. I was getting driven away by the forum chatter, since you left.[/QUOTE]There are a few Al Alma locations. I believe there's one in Manila and another in La Strada. d'Andres is another good breakfast. Hotel Du Park Royal used to do a good breakfast buffet, with omelettes to order.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2497345]No.

It's far more expensive and far less options. It's going to be tough to get down to 15% if you don't eat egg whites because you don't want to waste the yolk.[/QUOTE]Heck, he even grinds up the eggshells and uses them in his coffee so he doesn't waste them.

I like to be creative and fun. I wrote a long post but it was erased so keeping it brief.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2497265]At how many Americans come to Colombia to be have their freedoms limited. You are staying in Poblado and you are paying three times to five times to going rate for rent. Why would you allow anyone to tell you what you can or cannot do in an apartment that you are paying that much for? Maybe that's just acceptable for some of you guys, not me. I refuse to be anywhere that my freedoms are limited. Mongering is legal in Colombia, it may not be tolerated as much in Poblado, but I refuse to pay 5 times the going rate to be told who I can bring and cannot bring into my apartment. I am leaving soon, but what I have established is this, next year I will have a rental history, proof that I have rented an apartment in Medellin for the past year and that will give me the going rate for anywhere I want to live in Medellin. Everyone has their own preference, but don't come to board complaining about rules that you freely accept. The sooner that you put a demand on your money the sooner you will have freedoms about the places that you rent. Pollo Negro is out![/QUOTE]That probably sounds crazy to most of the Gringos here but I avoid Poblado. And two terms I will never use to describe myself are "expatriate" or a "Digital Nomad" even though they both could apply. The typical American I have met who identifies with with either or both labels are insufferable bores.

I want to assimilate the local culture, improve my Spanish, live more like a local (okay not a homeless local), and take advantage of the lifestyle and lower cost of living in Medellin. I am sure there are some great places, restaurants, and women in Poblado, and undoubtedly I will get off the Metro one day at that stop, probably on a whim. But the last thing I want when I visit or move to a place as beautiful as Medellin is live like an American in an enclave that reminds me in style and cost of back home. I realize a lot of guys don't or can't roll like that and more power to you. You stay in the high rent district, and I'll stick with my novia's casas and apartments. My favorite place to stay if I wasn't at a girl's place was Hotel Botero in El Centro, the rate fluctuated but I don't think I ever paid over $20 per night and sometimes it was as low as eleven. I heard they were closed. Very user friendly, with a kick-ass little brothel across the street, a few nearby "discos" as my main squeeze called them- the bars with stripper poles and girls to take home. And easy pickens to Botero Parque, and a nice stroll to New Life.

Gratuitous fotos in honor of Halloween. This is the second time I have posted my Numero Uno chica. I claim her catwoman is better than Michelle Pfiefer's jajajaa. These are selfies she sent to me and Gawd knows to who else, but she acts like I am her Numero Uno tambien. Doesn't matter if it's true as long as we both buy into it, jajajajjaja.

Very good session. Full participation throughout and went the distance. I had a bit of everything. Sexy dancing, sensuality, passion, and seem very happy with time spent. Wine at arrival along with a little porn on tv. Addition with music and things heading in a great direction. She loved the masked ideal and that's how we took pictures. Suck me off first round and then took the pounding 2nd round without any complaints. Good time. I was very much satisfied. No kids. Very tight body. Not a sex goddes or chaturbate girl like the slapanonymous. LOL

[QUOTE=Blakman;2497448]I like to be creative and fun. I wrote a long post but it was erased so keeping it brief.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2497265]At how many Americans come to Colombia to be have their freedoms limited. You are staying in Poblado and you are paying three times to five times to going rate for rent. Why would you allow anyone to tell you what you can or cannot do in an apartment that you are paying that much for? Maybe that's just acceptable for some of you guys, not me. I refuse to be anywhere that my freedoms are limited. Mongering is legal in Colombia, it may not be tolerated as much in Poblado, but I refuse to pay 5 times the going rate to be told who I can bring and cannot bring into my apartment. I am leaving soon, but what I have established is this, next year I will have a rental history, proof that I have rented an apartment in Medellin for the past year and that will give me the going rate for anywhere I want to live in Medellin. Everyone has their own preference, but don't come to board complaining about rules that you freely accept. The sooner that you put a demand on your money the sooner you will have freedoms about the places that you rent. Pollo Negro is out![/QUOTE]I'm not sure where you're getting your numbers. The apartment I planned to rent in Poblado (1 bed 1. 5 bath, big balcony, literally less than 100 yards from everything I need) was $25 per night. Unfortunately, it's not available for all my stay so I ended up paying $30 per night in Laureles. On a short term rental (less than 1 month) I don't believe you can find anything comparable on El Centro for $5-$10 per night.

A friend, who always stays in El Centro managed to find a nice hotel, with air conditioning, in El Centro for $17 per night. But it doesn't really compare. I'll have everything he has plus a full kitchen and washer and dryer. I'll also have no issues with guests.

However, and this is true whether you're in El Centro, Poblado or Laureles, some hotels and apartments have rules prohibiting or limiting guests. It doesn't matter if you're paying $12 a night or $250 a night. The owner has every right to set whatever rules they want. It doesn't matter if prostitution is legal. The same as a hotel can prohibit smoking in the rooms, even though smoking is legal.

Which is why guys need to do their research. If a place restricts guest access, find another place. You're just going to cost yourself more money if you think you can get around the rules.

While I don't have a balcony, I do have 2 bedroom and 2 bathroom and I can bring anybody I want. But keep the noise down. And that's at you guess it $25 a night. Nicely decorated living room, dining room of course kitchen. Confession its in manila. My first 2 guess stayed full 3 hrs so I am already getting my moneys worth. The 8th comes over tomorrow 9 am to 7 pm for 160 mil but she had to beg for it. Anyways blackman out. Surfy turfy what's the news on centro strip clubs this weekend.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2497672]I'm not sure where you're getting your numbers. The apartment I planned to rent in Poblado (1 bed 1. 5 bath, big balcony, literally less than 100 yards from everything I need) was $25 per night. Unfortunately, it's not available for all my stay so I ended up paying $30 per night in Laureles. On a short term rental (less than 1 month) I don't believe you can find anything comparable on El Centro for $5-$10 per night.

A friend, who always stays in El Centro managed to find a nice hotel, with air conditioning, in El Centro for $17 per night. But it doesn't really compare. I'll have everything he has plus a full kitchen and washer and dryer. I'll also have no issues with guests.

However, and this is true whether you're in El Centro, Poblado or Laureles, some hotels and apartments have rules prohibiting or limiting guests. It doesn't matter if you're paying $12 a night or $250 a night. The owner has every right to set whatever rules they want. It doesn't matter if prostitution is legal. The same as a hotel can prohibit smoking in the rooms, even though smoking is legal.

Which is why guys need to do their research. If a place restricts guest access, find another place. You're just going to cost yourself more money if you think you can get around the rules.[/QUOTE].

I thought had at least a couple of more catgirl fotos but couldn't find them. Problem is, I've had every photo on my phone erased more than once by jealous chicas, a couple of times by ones I had just met. Never let any chica get hold of your fone for even a second. Colombianas are also infamous for putting tracking software on your phone in a flash that is nearly impossible to detect and remove, so the rumor goes. I know mine was loaded once because the girl I was talking to blurted out my location when I tried to tell her I was somewhere else. Even chicas you just met, don't hand over your phone for a minute and for Gawd's sake don't leave them alone with your phone while you are in the bathroom. You have been warned!

Here are a few gratuitous photos of my Numero Uno chica I came across when I was scanning for her catgirl fotos. She is setting out to pick coffee beans at the family pueblo in the photo with the pail. The birds eye view from Guatape she was flipping me a bird two seconds later, can't recall what she was so pissed about, jajaja. We were there for a long weekend with one of her bisexual girl friends, jeje. I took the first two fotos, she sent me the last two. . .

Should be taken with a Large chunk of salt, when it comes to price paid, girls fucked, time spent, and wonders beheld. You think guys don't want to play a game of One Upmanship when there is no accountability? Of course they do. Of course we all do. Ask yourself, does it have the ring of truth, a consistent thread of believability, not just in one post but across multiple posts? Or does it sound like a failed attempt in creative writing?

Yeah, but do you have a counter they can dance on?

[QUOTE=Blakman;2497709]While I don't have a balcony, I do have 2 bedroom and 2 bathroom and I can bring anybody I want. But keep the noise down. And that's at you guess it $25 a night. Nicely decorated living room, dining room of course kitchen. Confession its in manila. My first 2 guess stayed full 3 hrs so I am already getting my moneys worth. The 8th comes over tomorrow 9 am to 7 pm for 160 mil but she had to beg for it. Anyways blackman out. Surfy turfy what's the news on centro strip clubs this weekend..[/QUOTE]

Yeah but do you have a rental history?

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2497672]I'm not sure where you're getting your numbers. The apartment I planned to rent in Poblado (1 bed 1. 5 bath, big balcony, literally less than 100 yards from everything I need) was $25 per night. Unfortunately, it's not available for all my stay so I ended up paying $30 per night in Laureles. On a short term rental (less than 1 month) I don't believe you can find anything comparable on El Centro for $5-$10 per night.

A friend, who always stays in El Centro managed to find a nice hotel, with air conditioning, in El Centro for $17 per night. But it doesn't really compare. I'll have everything he has plus a full kitchen and washer and dryer. I'll also have no issues with guests.

However, and this is true whether you're in El Centro, Poblado or Laureles, some hotels and apartments have rules prohibiting or limiting guests. It doesn't matter if you're paying $12 a night or $250 a night. The owner has every right to set whatever rules they want. It doesn't matter if prostitution is legal. The same as a hotel can prohibit smoking in the rooms, even though smoking is legal.

Which is why guys need to do their research. If a place restricts guest access, find another place. You're just going to cost yourself more money if you think you can get around the rules.[/QUOTE]

Would love to be able to tell you I fucked her dressed as Batman but it wasn't meant to be. . . Jajaja.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2496631]Thought some of you folks in Medellin might appreciate this. This is a boiled down list of girls from mileroticos and photoprepagos from the last 7 days. Just open the file in your browser of choice. Had to zip it because ISG won't let me upload html files.[/QUOTE]How old this contacts are and are these independent girls for they work for a agency.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2497709]While I don't have a balcony, I do have 2 bedroom and 2 bathroom and I can bring anybody I want. But keep the noise down. And that's at you guess it $25 a night. Nicely decorated living room, dining room of course kitchen. Confession its in manila. My first 2 guess stayed full 3 hrs so I am already getting my moneys worth. The 8th comes over tomorrow 9 am to 7 pm for 160 mil but she had to beg for it. Anyways blackman out. Surfy turfy what's the news on centro strip clubs this weekend..[/QUOTE]Damn Blakonomics. What did you do, win the lottery? Next thing you know you'll be doing the champagne and caviar bit with Slapstick. When's Robin Leach dropping by?

Here's what you do. Go to Parque Lleras, find the 3 hottest girls and offer to let them crash in your extra bedroom for 20k each. That's half the cost of a round-trip to Bello. Charge them another 10k each for breakfast and you're making money. Then you take pictures of them, post them here and charge 50 k for every date you set up.

Just think of all the cheap shoes you could buy.

Hey there,

Has anyone being able to invite SA girl to international travel and only pay her airfare, food, and other expenses, but doesn't have to give her allowance? If so, how do you guys do it?

I schedule a cita at casa never been Hotel 69 and 58. Something like that. Close to la 70. I got there and my wifi was down, so difficulty contacting intended girl. Big but, tits negra. Went inside hotel and my lack of spanish became a blessing. The receptionist was asking me who I am here for and also asking me to pay her. That made me suspicious. I did not want to pay her and have to pay the girl too. After few minutes of confusion she sent me to room 402. The chica came to the door and look overweight and she didn't say anything so I said nah wrong room and she close the door. Now I was thinking how to get out without someone asking for the 100 mil fee or preparation fee. Got in elevator and walked out. Felt good. Saved 100 mil. Realized I was close to another casa that I am familiar with. Across from hotel imperio. Rung doorbell and chica look out. Ask what you want. I said look at chicas. Came down and walk me up to sit. 8 girls came out and amongst them was katorlin. She's a cute little excellent performer. Every aspect she's good at. Nice little frame. I chose her. No hesitation even though I like new pussy. We go into the room give her 60 mil. She puts on her playlist. I hear say nah play mines. I know my playlist gets them in the mood. She strips start dancing, such a little thing. I pick her up like its nothing. She wants to turn off the light I say nah I want to see your body. Some foreplay and then some head. Her head game and ride game is solid. Gives me little head then stops, I say beso mas, she sucks more. Very submissive how I like it. She sucks more and stops again. I say more. She sucks more but this time I push her head down for deep throat. She pops up and I guess that hit the spot. No more need to encouraging her. She continues sucking the switches to ride. She's going full steam while singing to my playlist. After a good while she opts to doggy. I am hitting it, enjoying it and thinking I am burning calories at the same time. I hit a spot that slows down the pounding and switch to missionary. I go strong for her to orgasm. Maybe I did, maybe I didn't. But she was fucking pretty quick and aggressively to make me believe I did. Finally I went into a position that makes me cum. I started looking at her, thinking about my 8 and the girl last night to get that orgasm. It was a nice explosion. I was fully satisfied. I layed on the bed for like 15 minutes. I wanted to tip her. Her performance deserving but shit cost me taxi just to get there so no tip today. She walk me out. It was pouring in rain but plenty of cabs. Hopped in and that was my casa journey. Katerlin well recommended.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2497672]I'm not sure where you're getting your numbers. The apartment I planned to rent in Poblado (1 bed 1. 5 bath, big balcony, literally less than 100 yards from everything I need) was $25 per night. Unfortunately, it's not available for all my stay so I ended up paying $30 per night in Laureles. [/QUOTE]Let's use the numbers you have and leave it at that. I am in a brand new apartment, 3 bedrooms, 2 bath, my apartment is bigger than the once that my friend rented in Poblado, I pay $312.00 usd a month. Once again unless I misspoke, you are still paying 3 to 5 times more than me. My apartment needed to be put in the rental agency's name for services, so even at $312.00 I am overpaying for the rental agency assisting me in obtaining services. Every one continue to have fun and enjoy the girls, take time to find places that allow you some freedom for your American Dollar. I can bring anyone to my place that I want if I didn't have a live in girlfriend and I have very few rules other than music or running a drill before 8 am. These Airbnb and Poblado hotels understand that Gringos come here with little knowledge of the laws of the country. Get the most bang for your buck. Pollo Negro is out!

[QUOTE=Blakman;2497640]No kids. Very tight body. Not a sex goddes or chaturbate girl like the slapanonymous. LOL

.[/QUOTE]GreenMan, can you prove this? Did you use a VPN? Many chicas block Colombia on Chaturbate. Go check, again, then get back to me!

[QUOTE=Blakman;2497709]While I don't have a balcony, I do have 2 bedroom and 2 bathroom and I can bring anybody I want. But keep the noise down. And that's at you guess it $25 a night. Nicely decorated living room, dining room of course kitchen. Confession its in manila. My first 2 guess stayed full 3 hrs so I am already getting my moneys worth. The 8th comes over tomorrow 9 am to 7 pm for 160 mil but she had to beg for it. Anyways blackman out. Surfy turfy what's the news on centro strip clubs this weekend.

.[/QUOTE]Here is the latest:

6p today. Ley Seca (Dry).

10p nightly until 6a. Curfew for Adults.

So, buy your alcohol before 5p, today. Bars will be closed, unless you are in some areas of Centro or barrios without patrol / with pay-offs, in my opinion. Any girls need to be out by 9-930p or stay until morning. If they want to chance it, let them, but they might try to get you on the hook for a fine. Or worse, pretend they got a fine, and get some bobo gringo to pay.

You can search Gobernacion de Antioquia on Twitter, or Anibal Gobernado, for any updates. It's already changed 2-3 times, so it could certainly change again.

I have a freshy, and I think freebie, coming over to join us, tonight. She's never done anything with a girl, and says she is timid. We'll see how it goes. Tomorrow, I'll host a party at the house I rented for the weekend. Jacuzzi is out of service but the pool will be going off. I chose to rent a house in Envigado that seems pretty private, rather than trying to figure out how to get everyone out to Guatape or San Jeronimo or Copacabana, etc.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2497725]Ask yourself, does it have the ring of truth, a consistent thread of believability, not just in one post but across multiple posts? Or does it sound like a failed attempt in creative writing?[/QUOTE]Good point. What you say through, and, I just like to add that it goes both ways. Even though all my post are 95% honest, (Only details are obscure to remain anonymous) I've been hassled several times about the veracity. As a society I think we have an obsession with critical thinking, which could be balance out with More creative thinking. And also I think in the Montral form I said The best thing I liked about this 9 that I met was her honesty. And some people just couldn't accept as truth that someone would care about How honest a girl is.

Also it's okay to be criticized. After all people just want to clear their doubts and make sure the story adds up.

Pics are the proof. Only thing questionable is I needed to screenshot the original to get it to upload into the forum since original was modified to shield the face. I am as cheap and honest as they come.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2497889]GreenMan, can you prove this? Did you use a VPN? Many chicas block Colombia on Chaturbate. Go check, again, then get back to me!

Here is the latest:

6p today. Ley Seca (Dry).

10p nightly until 6a. Curfew for Adults.

So, buy your alcohol before 5p, today. Bars will be closed, unless you are in some areas of Centro or barrios without patrol / with pay-offs, in my opinion. Any girls need to be out by 9-930p or stay until morning. If they want to chance it, let them, but they might try to get you on the hook for a fine. Or worse, pretend they got a fine, and get some bobo gringo to pay.

You can search Gobernacion de Antioquia on Twitter, or Anibal Gobernado, for any updates. It's already changed 2-3 times, so it could certainly change again.

I have a freshy, and I think freebie, coming over to join us, tonight. She's never done anything with a girl, and says she is timid. We'll see how it goes. Tomorrow, I'll host a party at the house I rented for the weekend. Jacuzzi is out of service but the pool will be going off. I chose to rent a house in Envigado that seems pretty private, rather than trying to figure out how to get everyone out to Guatape or San Jeronimo or Copacabana, etc.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Forever18;2497811]Hey there,

Has anyone being able to invite SA girl to international travel and only pay her airfare, food, and other expenses, but doesn't have to give her allowance? If so, how do you guys do it?[/QUOTE]If the girl is economically secure, and no obligations, for example from lower middle class, student or has a job to support herself, looking to travel and see the world, it would work.

If she is broke, or needs to support starving family, she won't care about travel and stuff, she would want cash. If she has kids, very little chance she will travel.

You need a lot of research and luck to find the right girl.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2497729]Yeah but do you have a rental history?[/QUOTE]A rental history and 5, will get you a tinto at Juan Valdez.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2497672]I'm not sure where you're getting your numbers. The apartment I planned to rent in Poblado (1 bed 1. 5 bath, big balcony, literally less than 100 yards from everything I need) was $25 per night. Unfortunately, it's not available for all my stay so I ended up paying $30 per night in Laureles. On a short term rental (less than 1 month) I don't believe you can find anything comparable on El Centro for $5-$10 per night.

A friend, who always stays in El Centro managed to find a nice hotel, with air conditioning, in El Centro for $17 per night. But it doesn't really compare. I'll have everything he has plus a full kitchen and washer and dryer. I'll also have no issues with guests.

However, and this is true whether you're in El Centro, Poblado or Laureles, some hotels and apartments have rules prohibiting or limiting guests. It doesn't matter if you're paying $12 a night or $250 a night. The owner has every right to set whatever rules they want. It doesn't matter if prostitution is legal. The same as a hotel can prohibit smoking in the rooms, even though smoking is legal.

Which is why guys need to do their research. If a place restricts guest access, find another place. You're just going to cost yourself more money if you think you can get around the rules.[/QUOTE]Hi, if you don't mind, could possibly PM me contact details of the place you're renting in Laureles. Thanks.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2497672] However, and this is true whether you're in El Centro, Poblado or Laureles, some hotels and apartments have rules prohibiting or limiting guests. It doesn't matter if you're paying $12 a night or $250 a night. The owner has every right to set whatever rules they want. It doesn't matter if prostitution is legal. The same as a hotel can prohibit smoking in the rooms, even though smoking is legal.[/QUOTE]Another thing to be mentioned are the rules for apartments (specifically) that all owners, tenants, residents, and renters must comply with regardless of any specific restrictions an owner may have for renting their apartment.

As an example, in my building there are rules against making noise, and fines associated with it. May sound odd, but what occured recently was one of the owners rented out his apartment to a couple, and apparently the couple had parties and made noise on various occasions, and the Porteros gave them warnings, and informed them if they violated the buildings rules they would sanctioned on the third violation which was being documented by the Porteros. So for the first warning they were given a verbal warning, the second warning was a letter stating that if they violated the rules again they would be fined, and when they broke the rules again, guess what, the owner got fined based on a formula they used which basically came to 300,000 Pesos in this instance which the owner than charged his renters for.

[QUOTE=Forever18;2497811]Hey there,

Has anyone being able to invite SA girl to international travel and only pay her airfare, food, and other expenses, but doesn't have to give her allowance? If so, how do you guys do it?[/QUOTE]My "GF" got lots of offers on SA for intl travel. She did travel to Santa Marta and to Costa Rica with men from SA. How do you do it? Make your offer. Most of the girls here have never left Antioquia.

[QUOTE=MMHikeus;2497947]If she has kids, very little chance she will travel.[/QUOTE]I have a new nonpro in Barranquilla. She wanted to stay with me the days I was there but said she would need to pay a babysitter. I said how much is that. She said standard price. I said I don't know what that is. She said yeah I keep forgetting you are not from here. It was 30K/day to keep her kids for 24 hours. I also did not know there was a welfare system in Colombia. She said she gets 300K from the government every 2 months for 2 kids.

This must have been the poorest chick that I have met in my life. She had never eaten Mexican food, never eaten salmon, only been to the movies 2 times in her life, and never seen a bathtub. The first day we went to the salon and got her hair and nails done. We also ate Mexican food. The next day she wanted to eat Mexican food again, but I told her we should go eat salmon instead. Movies are closed for Covid and I told her next time I will find a hotel with a bathtub.

After I left she said:

Amor quiero darte las gracias por todo. nunca haba vivido algo como lo que vivi. Nunca nadie me haba hecho sentir tan importante

Nothing like dealing with chicks that appreciate shit.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2498004]I have a new nonpro in Barranquilla. She wanted to stay with me the days I was there but said she would need to pay a babysitter. I said how much is that. She said standard price. I said I don't know what that is. She said yeah I keep forgetting you are not from here. It was 30K/day to keep her kids for 24 hours. I also did not know there was a welfare system in Colombia. She said she gets 300K from the government every 2 months for 2 kids.

This must have been the poorest chick that I have met in my life. She had never eaten Mexican food, never eaten salmon, only been to the movies 2 times in her life, and never seen a bathtub. The first day we went to the salon and got her hair and nails done. We also ate Mexican food. The next day she wanted to eat Mexican food again, but I told her we should go eat salmon instead. Movies are closed for Covid and I told her next time I will find a hotel with a bathtub.

After I left she said:

Amor quiero darte las gracias por todo. nunca haba vivido algo como lo que vivi. Nunca nadie me haba hecho sentir tan importante

Nothing like dealing with chicks that appreciate shit.[/QUOTE]You left it better than you found it. Good stuff.

[QUOTE=Frank11;2497903]Good point. What you say through, and, I just like to add that it goes both ways. Even though all my post are 95% honest, (Only details are obscure to remain anonymous) I've been hassled several times about the veracity. As a society I think we have an obsession with critical thinking, which could be balance out with More creative thinking. And also I think in the Montral form I said The best thing I liked about this 9 that I met was her honesty. And some people just couldn't accept as truth that someone would care about How honest a girl is.

Also it's okay to be criticized. After all people just want to clear their doubts and make sure the story adds up.[/QUOTE]After going through summer reading the creative writing from sjobs who we would have to call the master of deception, the current writers may embellish but for sure are rooted in reality.

[QUOTE=Forever18;2497811]Hey there,

Has anyone being able to invite SA girl to international travel and only pay her airfare, food, and other expenses, but doesn't have to give her allowance? If so, how do you guys do it?[/QUOTE]With international travel, you have to pay $200 or so for a Covid PCR test now just to get her back into Colombia and besides the expense, it is a pain in the ass.

It is 50-50 I get stood up even when I know the girl in the USA and buy the plane ticket, and you get a lot of late minute cancellations. I have scheduled three trips with Colombian women to Mexico, and only one got through. Mexico will not tell you how much but in general you want the woman to have at least $500 in cash to get through customs. Other countries have a similar amount. Any woman who is single and young is going to arouse trafficking suspicions. So between that and the plane ticket and the Covid test, you are up to $1000.

Hell, I just had a gal from Mexico with a tourist visa come to the USA sex prison. She is a professional as am I, and she got questioned up and down and strip searched. I asked a buddy of mine who is in the export industry about it, and he said because she is pretty that the men probably watched as they had a woman officer feel her up. It is disgusting how routine this is. She made it out of customs three hours after arriving and was in tears when I met her. Thing is other countries can provide an even worse customs experience.

You need to go to Colombia first and meet the girl and then invite her on a trip. If at all possible, the first time I would recommend that you and she fly together. For your sake, you want to get to know the woman. Honestly, I went to Cancun with a gorgeous Mexican hottie, but her personality was pretty bland and outside of the sex, it was not that great of a time. If you have the right girl, it is a ball.

If you want a Colombian woman and do not have time to fly to Colombia, I would recommend you fly to Mexico City and check out Twitter and Laboutiquevip. You can find plenty of Colombian and Venezuelan pussy in Mexico and do not have to fly to Colombia and deal with all that PCR Covid shit if time is an issue for you. I found four Colombian women on [URL]seeking.com[/URL] in Mexico so they are there as well.

Is it true there is a 4 day lockdown started today? Is only because of Halloween & if true?

When they show you that gratitude. I've taken some from the lowest estratos (1 or 2) to some truly amazing locals and they always, always, reward how we treat them with true nymphomaniac, mind blowing, out of this world sessions. Sometimes I wish I was younger and in better shape!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2498004]I have a new nonpro in Barranquilla. She wanted to stay with me the days I was there but said she would need to pay a babysitter. I said how much is that. She said standard price. I said I don't know what that is. She said yeah I keep forgetting you are not from here. It was 30K/day to keep her kids for 24 hours. I also did not know there was a welfare system in Colombia. She said she gets 300K from the government every 2 months for 2 kids.

This must have been the poorest chick that I have met in my life. She had never eaten Mexican food, never eaten salmon, only been to the movies 2 times in her life, and never seen a bathtub. The first day we went to the salon and got her hair and nails done. We also ate Mexican food. The next day she wanted to eat Mexican food again, but I told her we should go eat salmon instead. Movies are closed for Covid and I told her next time I will find a hotel with a bathtub.

After I left she said:

Amor quiero darte las gracias por todo. nunca haba vivido algo como lo que vivi. Nunca nadie me haba hecho sentir tan importante

Nothing like dealing with chicks that appreciate shit.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Frank11;2497903]Good point. What you say through, and, I just like to add that it goes both ways. Even though all my post are 95% honest, (Only details are obscure to remain anonymous) I've been hassled several times about the veracity. As a society I think we have an obsession with critical thinking, which could be balance out with More creative thinking. And also I think in the Montral form I said The best thing I liked about this 9 that I met was her honesty. And some people just couldn't accept as truth that someone would care about How honest a girl is.

Also it's okay to be criticized. After all people just want to clear their doubts and make sure the story adds up.[/QUOTE]That's a waste of time. And I agree point / counterpoint should be part of the process. No frequent flier here "changes" how he rolls based on what goes on here. I don't write to those guys, I write from experience for the guy who maybe really wants to get a different perspective and who maybe has never posted before. I try to learn a thing or two along the way but in reality I am a sarcastic, attention whoring asshole who believes my way is best for me and what others say has little effect. The only line that I don't like to see crossed, is when someone tries to ram their way of thinking down the throats of others. Or pretend that because they have an "opinion" about how to monger that is the way everyone else should do it. That is the bullshit.

So when a guy pays 250, his finger drifts and it becomes 150 by the time he hits the Submit button. She stayed for 2 hours but what difference does it make if I type 3? And those errors compound themselves in the never ending Swinging Dick cycle where guys try to outdo one another. That is male testosterone driven One-Upmanship in action and comes with the territory here. Your admirable 95% benchmark is not even close for most of what goes on here. I am not trying to make this board something it isn't or shouldn't be, but don't pretend it's something that it's not either. For the most part, unverified, unconfirmed, unsourced and with lots of imagination and creative thinking. Even on matters of supposed factual information there are usually more posts with wrong answers that right ones, so heaven help the poor schmuck who chooses to read the wrong post out of the hundreds of thousands that exist here. And then on matter of opinion the embellishments quickly get out of control. That is the nature of the beast, the Internet and will never change. If you can maintain 95% honesty then IMO that is waaaaay above the average. With that said, the Fun Factor here is probably the main attraction and worth the price of admission.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2498004]I have a new nonpro in Barranquilla. She wanted to stay with me the days I was there but said she would need to pay a babysitter. I said how much is that. She said standard price. I said I don't know what that is. She said yeah I keep forgetting you are not from here. It was 30K/day to keep her kids for 24 hours. I also did not know there was a welfare system in Colombia. She said she gets 300K from the government every 2 months for 2 kids.

This must have been the poorest chick that I have met in my life. She had never eaten Mexican food, never eaten salmon, only been to the movies 2 times in her life, and never seen a bathtub. The first day we went to the salon and got her hair and nails done. We also ate Mexican food. The next day she wanted to eat Mexican food again, but I told her we should go eat salmon instead. Movies are closed for Covid and I told her next time I will find a hotel with a bathtub.

After I left she said:

Amor quiero darte las gracias por todo. nunca haba vivido algo como lo que vivi. Nunca nadie me haba hecho sentir tan importante

Nothing like dealing with chicks that appreciate shit.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Voyajer1;2498116]When they show you that gratitude. I've taken some from the lowest estratos (1 or 2) to some truly amazing locals and they always, always, reward how we treat them with true nymphomaniac, mind blowing, out of this world sessions. Sometimes I wish I was younger and in better shape![/QUOTE]I must agree, my gringo buddy and I talk often how we love the barrio WG, damn they can be a lot of fun and when you find one that appreciates experiencing new things your in like Flynn, hehehehe.

It is really neat when, a number of girls I brought to the coast, they have never been out of Antioquia and the look on their faces when they see the ocean for the first time in their short and often miserable barrio ghetto life.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2497856]Let's use the numbers you have and leave it at that. I am in a brand new apartment, 3 bedrooms, 2 bath, my apartment is bigger than the once that my friend rented in Poblado, I pay $312.00 usd a month. Once again unless I misspoke, you are still paying 3 to 5 times more than me. My apartment needed to be put in the rental agency's name for services, so even at $312.00 I am overpaying for the rental agency assisting me in obtaining services. Every one continue to have fun and enjoy the girls, take time to find places that allow you some freedom for your American Dollar. I can bring anyone to my place that I want if I didn't have a live in girlfriend and I have very few rules other than music or running a drill before 8 am. These Airbnb and Poblado hotels understand that Gringos come here with little knowledge of the laws of the country. Get the most bang for your buck. Pollo Negro is out![/QUOTE]Well, if we use the number I have, $360 for my stay and compare it to your number $312 x 6 months or $1872, my stay is 5 times cheaper. That wouldn't be a very good deal for me.

What you paid for your apartment is the rate for a 6 month lease. If you tried to rent that same apartment for 10-15 days, you would be paying twice to three times as much. Shorter term rentals come with increased risks and costs, plus down time between rentals for cleaning and repair, not to mention the difficulty, especially in your area, to find trustworthy short term renters.

You were just gushing like a school girl over your friend's stay in Poblado, how much money he was spending, how he overpaid for everything. Now you're telling everyone they shouldn't pay more than you're paying, even though what you're paying is unobtainable for anyone staying less than 6 months.

Stay where you want to stay. Spend what you want to spend. Just make certain the place allows you to do what you want to do. If you're someone who plans on hanging out in Parque Lleras every night, it makes no sense to find a place in El Centro.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2497977]Another thing to be mentioned are the rules for apartments (specifically) that all owners, tenants, residents, and renters must comply with regardless of any specific restrictions an owner may have for renting their apartment.

As an example, in my building there are rules against making noise, and fines associated with it. May sound odd, but what occured recently was one of the owners rented out his apartment to a couple, and apparently the couple had parties and made noise on various occasions, and the Porteros gave them warnings, and informed them if they violated the buildings rules they would sanctioned on the third violation which was being documented by the Porteros. So for the first warning they were given a verbal warning, the second warning was a letter stating that if they violated the rules again they would be fined, and when they broke the rules again, guess what, the owner got fined based on a formula they used which basically came to 300,000 Pesos in this instance which the owner than charged his renters for.[/QUOTE]And if you're the short term renter who is breaking the rules, the property owner can immediately terminate your lease without giving a refund. If that happens at 2 am, you might have a long night finding someplace to spend the next 2 weeks.

Know the rules and follow them. Complaining about the rules doesn't fix anything. Trying to find ways around the rules will make things worse. Telling people they need to buy or lease a house or apartment long term to avoid rules, doesn't help the guys staying for 5 days.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2498004]I have a new nonpro in Barranquilla. She wanted to stay with me the days I was there but said she would need to pay a babysitter. I said how much is that. She said standard price. I said I don't know what that is. She said yeah I keep forgetting you are not from here. It was 30K/day to keep her kids for 24 hours. I also did not know there was a welfare system in Colombia. She said she gets 300K from the government every 2 months for 2 kids.

This must have been the poorest chick that I have met in my life. She had never eaten Mexican food, never eaten salmon, only been to the movies 2 times in her life, and never seen a bathtub. The first day we went to the salon and got her hair and nails done. We also ate Mexican food. The next day she wanted to eat Mexican food again, but I told her we should go eat salmon instead. Movies are closed for Covid and I told her next time I will find a hotel with a bathtub.

After I left she said:

Amor quiero darte las gracias por todo. nunca haba vivido algo como lo que vivi. Nunca nadie me haba hecho sentir tan importante

Nothing like dealing with chicks that appreciate shit.[/QUOTE]I love this story!

Any Casa's open? Just got into town, staying indefinitely.

It is the screenplay of the Julia Roberts movie "Pretty Woman".

[QUOTE=Combo;2498141]I love this story![/QUOTE]

This made me laugh out loud. Like all good humor, it is based in truth.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2497968]A rental history and 5, will get you a tinto at Juan Valdez.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Voyajer1;2498116]When they show you that gratitude. I've taken some from the lowest estratos (1 or 2) to some truly amazing locals and they always, always, reward how we treat them with true nymphomaniac, mind blowing, out of this world sessions. Sometimes I wish I was younger and in better shape![/QUOTE]I can 100% relate to this as I have experienced it myself. I took an Estrata 1 girl to San Geronimo earlier this year, and she was like on another planet staying in a Hotel with a pool and a sauna which we had to ourselves to play in. Besides all of the mind blowing sex, I only wish I could have been blowing loads every 4 hours, versus 3 times a day being an old fart. She thanked me profusely upon returning, and wants to go to Santa Fe De Antioquia with me next time. It's amazing that so many in Colombia have never travelled anywhere, like even 30 miles outside of Medellin, or even seen the Ocean.

[QUOTE=Voyajer1;2498116]When they show you that gratitude. I've taken some from the lowest estratos (1 or 2) to some truly amazing locals and they always, always, reward how we treat them with true nymphomaniac, mind blowing, out of this world sessions. Sometimes I wish I was younger and in better shape![/QUOTE]This from my Day One. Regular, non-pro girls are more likely to rock your socks off than the average pro. I believe in the smorgasboard theory of sampling as much from the buffet as my tastes will lead me. The convenience of snagging a Botero Parque chica for 50 mil or less has a definite place in my mongering. But my numbered line-up of steady girls is ten times more fulfilling and fun. To each his own. As Lenny Bruce once put it, "A man will fuck mud. " If any wet hole will do then do any wet hole. But if you want your mind and your cock blown get to know the right regular girl and develop an "understanding. " There is a dance that must be done to keep them all happy and maybe that is a snag for some. I personally don't lie to any of them, and I tell them where they stand and don't expect me to stick with one girl. A few won't tolerate sharing (oh well, there are twenty more waiting in the wings) and being ranked, but amazingly, the majority do.

If they told me to learn spanish and gave me this reason in school. I probably would've learned something. Haha.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2498004]I have a new nonpro in Barranquilla. She wanted to stay with me the days I was there but said she would need to pay a babysitter. I said how much is that. She said standard price. I said I don't know what that is. She said yeah I keep forgetting you are not from here. It was 30K/day to keep her kids for 24 hours. I also did not know there was a welfare system in Colombia. She said she gets 300K from the government every 2 months for 2 kids.

This must have been the poorest chick that I have met in my life. She had never eaten Mexican food, never eaten salmon, only been to the movies 2 times in her life, and never seen a bathtub. The first day we went to the salon and got her hair and nails done. We also ate Mexican food. The next day she wanted to eat Mexican food again, but I told her we should go eat salmon instead. Movies are closed for Covid and I told her next time I will find a hotel with a bathtub..[/QUOTE]

Mileroticos. Connect with girl, she will give you location

[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2498150]Any Casa's open? Just got into town, staying indefinitely.[/QUOTE].

Prepared to hit lleras park first time this trip. Whats a good time?

8 PM or later for drinks / dinner, 10 PM or later for overpriced providers.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2498236]Prepared to hit lleras park first time this trip. Whats a good time?[/QUOTE]

4% people. Mostly couples. Police presence. Not much more to tell. 1 cutie.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2498242]8 PM or later for drinks / dinner, 10 PM or later for overpriced providers.[/QUOTE].

Stay vigilant and aware!

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D8CHyaJTfg&fbclid=IwAR0r6NG6Uok1Q2quPH-5_ahLcMTw3zIrEpVh_eY44NBfT_E3iRE4t9so6uI&app=desktop[/URL]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2498153]It is the screenplay of the Julia Roberts movie "Pretty Woman".[/QUOTE]That movie is pure fantasy. When will MFs learn? Spending money taking putas to restaurants, cinemas and shit.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2498435]That movie is pure fantasy. When will MFs learn? Spending money taking putas to restaurants, cinemas and shit.[/QUOTE]Do you mean Mr E is one of the MFs? Or just what's in the movie?

[QUOTE=Blakman;2498277]4% people. Mostly couples. Police presence. Not much more to tell. 1 cutie.[/QUOTE]This was to be expected with it being a dry weekend and an evening curfew.

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[QUOTE=Nounce;2498455]Do you mean Mr E is one of the MFs? Or just what's in the movie?[/QUOTE]Mr E barely spent anything other than the babysitter and cost of wining and dining. And even that was at the level of lifestyle he is used to but happens to be heavenly for her. And in return he got showed special attention. A more than fair deal.

Most of us get far worse than that outcome in a marriage.

I will Sign up for this every time.

That is rather a grim assessment Blakman. I've not been to Lleras in nearly two years. Thanks for re-confirming my decision to vote with my feet.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2498277]4% people. Mostly couples. Police presence. Not much more to tell. 1 cutie..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2498489]Mr E barely spent anything other than the babysitter and cost of wining and dining. And even that was at the level of lifestyle he is used to but happens to be heavenly for her. And in return he got showed special attention. A more than fair deal.

Most of us get far worse than that outcome in a marriage.

I will Sign up for this every time.[/QUOTE]I have always made an explicit distinction on this site between chicks that are hookers and chicks that are not hookers. I do not pay chicks that are not hookers.

There was not anything I would call wining and dining. We WALKED to Benito Juarez for Mexican. We went to Las Flores where there are tons of seafood restaurants that many working class people go to at lunchtime. We went to the salon where I always get my nails done. My nails, her nails and hair 150K. We watched the new Borat on my laptop. I am thinking we are about to go to a nice restaurant for dinner and she ends up taking me to a food court restaurant at the mall.

I have also said why pay so much for a flashy chick when you can get a normal chick and make her flashy yourself. Without the hair, makeup, and provocative clothing all those broads look the same. Take a normal chick to fix her hair and makeup and get her some nice threads and you have your own personal "instagram model" just like the ones in the pictures that many guys drool over.

Does anyone even pay attention to Turds that posts all commentaries and no trip reports?

I agree. Hairdo, make up and clothing makes a big difference in women. I notice that mostly when I go to my homeland in the island. You see a girl at house looking normal and wouldn't even give her a second. Then see her hair done, makeup, sexy clothing and wow. But do sound like you in love LOL.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2498544]I have always made an explicit distinction on this site between chicks that are hookers and chicks that are not hookers. I do not pay chicks that are not hookers.

There was not anything I would call wining and dining. We WALKED to Benito Juarez for Mexican. We went to Las Flores where there are tons of seafood restaurants that many working class people go to at lunchtime. We went to the salon where I always get my nails done. My nails, her nails and hair 150K. We watched the new Borat on my laptop. I am thinking we are about to go to a nice restaurant for dinner and she ends up taking me to a food court restaurant at the mall.

I have also said why pay so much for a flashy chick when you can get a normal chick and make her flashy yourself. Without the hair, makeup, and provocative clothing all those broads look the same. Take a normal chick to fix her hair and makeup and get her some nice threads and you have your own personal "instagram model" just like the ones in the pictures that many guys drool over.

Does anyone even pay attention to Turds that posts all commentaries and no trip reports?[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2498430]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D8CHyaJTfg&fbclid=IwAR0r6NG6Uok1Q2quPH-5_ahLcMTw3zIrEpVh_eY44NBfT_E3iRE4t9so6uI&app=desktop[/URL][/QUOTE]Good post. Before I say anything sure this happens everywhere and People have good experiences in Colombia too.

The guy says he lost all his savings acquired from years of work. How do you guys think he could have avoided this entire situation?

Do you think the Workers in the restaurant poisoned his food or did 1 of the 2 women poison his food? Also this story of the woman "oh look my friend is here can she join us?" that seems to be where the danger started. Don't allow any unexpected guests to join the party late.

I guess the teaching here is never go out with strangers to a restaurant. If you're going to meet a girl from seeking forget about drinks and food.

Don't date girls without reputation. Some of the girls in Columbia do have threads just look in the local forum Don Colombia. Also there has to be some accountability some guys think asking for her ID is silly but is It really silly? Get as much info as you can before hand her pictures her social media profile video real name ID. If you collect all this data it will be harder to become a victim and the thief will go look for someone easier to rob.

If One has an account with savings, then block the card. If They are savings why do you need a card that facilitates withdrawing the money?completely unnecessary. Only the account with everyday money should have a card.

How to be safe? What do you suggest?

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2498430]Stay vigilant and aware!

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D8CHyaJTfg&fbclid=IwAR0r6NG6Uok1Q2quPH-5_ahLcMTw3zIrEpVh_eY44NBfT_E3iRE4t9so6uI&app=desktop[/URL][/QUOTE]After viewing this video what's obvious is that this individual had a credit / debit card with a Colombian bank, and my bet it was Bancolombia. If it had been a card from a USA bank, the card would of been blocked after a few transactions, and regardless, the user would not be liable for fraudulent use. It's unfortunate what happened and the mistake he made was carrying the card with him outside of his Hotel but perhaps based on what transpired he didn't have the option to lock it up before going out. God forbid if the Chica had been allowed in his Hotel, he may have been missing a lot more.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2498476]This was to be expected with it being a dry weekend and an evening curfew.[/QUOTE]In my two week stay there was one busy day that was Monday. Weekends were dead (10-20% of 2019 or less). Most places are closed. You'll find some girls in Llears but it's not same now, for now.

[QUOTE=Frank11;2498582]Good post. Before I say anything sure this happens everywhere and People have good experiences in Colombia too.

The guy says he lost all his savings acquired from years of work. How do you guys think he could have avoided this entire situation?

Do you think the Workers in the restaurant poisoned his food or did 1 of the 2 women poison his food? Also this story of the woman "oh look my friend is here can she join us?" that seems to be where the danger started. Don't allow any unexpected guests to join the party late.

I guess the teaching here is never go out with strangers to a restaurant. If you're going to meet a girl from seeking forget about drinks and food.

Don't date girls without reputation. Some of the girls in Columbia do have threads just look in the local forum Don Colombia. Also there has to be some accountability some guys think asking for her ID is silly but is It really silly? Get as much info as you can before hand her pictures her social media profile video real name ID. If you collect all this data it will be harder to become a victim and the thief will go look for someone easier to rob.

If One has an account with savings, then block the card. If They are savings why do you need a card that facilitates withdrawing the money?completely unnecessary. Only the account with everyday money should have a card.

How to be safe? What do you suggest?[/QUOTE]I guess we can all learn from this, but this seem to becoming a more regular occurrence in Colombia.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2498489]Mr E barely spent anything other than the babysitter and cost of wining and dining. And even that was at the level of lifestyle he is used to but happens to be heavenly for her. And in return he got showed special attention. A more than fair deal.

Most of us get far worse than that outcome in a marriage.[/QUOTE]Like divorce court, and over a $ 100 K in attorney's fees!

I am sure this attributed to the results which was actually 1%. I do noticed an influx of foreigners during my 2 mile daily walk. Flyers be aware. Pattern of flights being cancelled and you have to hastily reschedule.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2498504]That is rather a grim assessment Blakman. I've not been to Lleras in nearly two years. Thanks for re-confirming my decision to vote with my feet.[/QUOTE].

The Envigado house rental was a success! Probably about 30 people at the party, with a good ratio. Maybe 10 guys and 2 of them were gay. The place looked like a frat house, today. The pool was in use, the music was good, and all the sexy ladies were dancing like it was their last night of being alive.

I had a 18yo cutie from Tinder that came down and wanted to go to the bedroom, immediately. I didn't want to start the day by sneaking in a quick lay and getting caught by my girl, so I told her another time. Then, as she loosened up and the party was going, I couldn't resist. She told me to get a condom but my girl and her friend were in my room getting ready, so I opted for a lovely blowjob. She told me to go get a condom, again. I told her next time. Later, we had a 3 way kiss with my girl and discussed her coming over to the new apartment, which is fucking amazing, by the way. Paid for her Uber both ways. I ended the night with a 3 some with my girl and her lesbian best friend. This morning, I had another round with my girl, and another when we went for an afternoon nap.

The manager and owner both messaged me about my girl and her friend showing their cedulas, because the portero was worried they were menores. My girl's friend does look 12, so I wasn't terribly offended. Got that all sorted out, and crushed some hangover Rappi.

It looks like a good time was had by all. Who got to clean up after that?

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2498616]The Envigado house rental was a success! Probably about 30 people at the party, with a good ratio. Maybe 10 guys and 2 of them were gay. The place looked like a frat house, today. The pool was in use, the music was good, and all the sexy ladies were dancing like it was their last night of being alive.

I had a 18yo cutie from Tinder that came down and wanted to go to the bedroom, immediately. I didn't want to start the day by sneaking in a quick lay and getting caught by my girl, so I told her another time. Then, as she loosened up and the party was going, I couldn't resist. She told me to get a condom but my girl and her friend were in my room getting ready, so I opted for a lovely blowjob. She told me to go get a condom, again. I told her next time. Later, we had a 3 way kiss with my girl and discussed her coming over to the new apartment, which is fucking amazing, by the way. Paid for her Uber both ways. I ended the night with a 3 some with my girl and her lesbian best friend. This morning, I had another round with my girl, and another when we went for an afternoon nap.

The manager and owner both messaged me about my girl and her friend showing their cedulas, because the portero was worried they were menores. My girl's friend does look 12, so I wasn't terribly offended. Got that all sorted out, and crushed some hangover Rappi.[/QUOTE]

Hey everyone,

First post! It's been cool reading the forum and appreciate all the insight. I'm from the US and I've booked my flight to arrive November 13th. The 17th in Parque Lleras. Couple questions for the forum. 1. Has anyone been successful in using a BinaxNOW rapid test as sufficient evidence that you're covid free or are they hard up on the PCR? And 2. Do you need some sort of exit immigration for you need to fill out in order to leave the country? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2498610]I am sure this attributed to the results which was actually 1%. I do noticed an influx of foreigners during my 2 mile daily walk. Flyers be aware. Pattern of flights being cancelled and you have to hastily reschedule..[/QUOTE]Pehaps you can share with us which airlines / routes are being cancelled that your aware of and why the flights are being cancelled. Is it one specific carrier, or all of them.

I'm assuming you have been affected by this, or know somebody who has, hence this would be good information to share for others with flights already scheduled.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2498603]I guess we can all learn from this, but this seem to becoming a more regular occurrence in Colombia.[/QUOTE]Not really becoming more regular. It's been happening for years, but many guys don't report it, along with the other scams and robberies. There's a bit of embarrassment after you've fallen victim to something like this.

Here's something everyone should learn from that:

You aren't that good looking.

Colombian women aren't typically extremely forward. They'll smile at you and if you approach them, they'll talk to you, but it's not common for a woman to approach you. Even the prostitutes tend to be more reserved. Chances are slim that any Colombian woman is going to approach you. If one does, the best you can hope for is that she's a hooker who is getting desperate.

[QUOTE=Onthehunt2020;2498624]Hey everyone,

First post! It's been cool reading the forum and appreciate all the insight. I'm from the US and I've booked my flight to arrive November 13th. The 17th in Parque Lleras. Couple questions for the forum. 1. Has anyone been successful in using a BinaxNOW rapid test as sufficient evidence that you're covid free or are they hard up on the PCR? And 2. Do you need some sort of exit immigration for you need to fill out in order to leave the country? Thanks.[/QUOTE]1. The requirement specifically states a PCR test. You might be able to get through with the BinaxNOW test. Or you might get off the plane in Medellin and get sent out on the next flight. Would that outcome be acceptable to you?

2. Unless my memory is messing with me, you have to check through Immigration before you leave. It's just a quick formality, only takes a few minutes depending on how long the line is.

[QUOTE=Onthehunt2020;2498624]1. Has anyone been successful in using a BinaxNOW rapid test as sufficient evidence that you're covid free or are they hard up on the PCR? And 2. Do you need some sort of exit immigration for you need to fill out in order to leave the country? Thanks.[/QUOTE]PCR dude. It is very clear and simple what they want.

I filled that same form out online but put exit. I don't think it was needed though because nobody said anything about it to me when I was leaving Colombia as they did when I was heading there.

You need to complete the same on-line form to exit as you did to enter. Obviously you are providing information on your out-going flight and destination. I had to upload my PCR test again.

The first time I went to Medellin in September, I did not do this, but the immigration officer kindly did it for me. I imagine there were more than a few people who did not do this and it probably backed up the immigration lines since. As such, my second trip a week ago, Spirit was checking that you had the form completed before they would let you get in line to check-in. I noticed that it was mostly Colombians who had not completed the form in advance. This time I was prepared.

[QUOTE=Onthehunt2020;2498624]Hey everyone,

First post! It's been cool reading the forum and appreciate all the insight. I'm from the US and I've booked my flight to arrive November 13th. The 17th in Parque Lleras. Couple questions for the forum. 1. Has anyone been successful in using a BinaxNOW rapid test as sufficient evidence that you're covid free or are they hard up on the PCR? And 2. Do you need some sort of exit immigration for you need to fill out in order to leave the country? Thanks.[/QUOTE]

Hello Fellow ISGers.

I heard that in Medellin they have gone to Dry Law on weekends which means no liquor to be sold during weekends? I also heard there was a 12 am curfew in effect placed by the govt.

Can anyone there confirm this? If so, that would suck if it were long term. I was planning to go soon.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2498544]I have always made an explicit distinction on this site between chicks that are hookers and chicks that are not hookers. I do not pay chicks that are not hookers.

There was not anything I would call wining and dining. We WALKED to Benito Juarez for Mexican. We went to Las Flores where there are tons of seafood restaurants that many working class people go to at lunchtime. We went to the salon where I always get my nails done. My nails, her nails and hair 150K. We watched the new Borat on my laptop. I am thinking we are about to go to a nice restaurant for dinner and she ends up taking me to a food court restaurant at the mall.

I have also said why pay so much for a flashy chick when you can get a normal chick and make her flashy yourself. Without the hair, makeup, and provocative clothing all those broads look the same. Take a normal chick to fix her hair and makeup and get her some nice threads and you have your own personal "instagram model" just like the ones in the pictures that many guys drool over.

Does anyone even pay attention to Turds that posts all commentaries and no trip reports?[/QUOTE]I hope you're not referring to me Mr E. I have posted trip reports.

Whatever you say the reason she was enamored was what she got was beyond her usual means. Experiences are relative.

[QUOTE=Frank11;2498582]Good post. Before I say anything sure this happens everywhere and People have good experiences in Colombia too.

The guy says he lost all his savings acquired from years of work. How do you guys think he could have avoided this entire situation?

Do you think the Workers in the restaurant poisoned his food or did 1 of the 2 women poison his food? Also this story of the woman "oh look my friend is here can she join us?" that seems to be where the danger started. Don't allow any unexpected guests to join the party late.

I guess the teaching here is never go out with strangers to a restaurant. If you're going to meet a girl from seeking forget about drinks and food.

Don't date girls without reputation. Some of the girls in Columbia do have threads just look in the local forum Don Colombia. Also there has to be some accountability some guys think asking for her ID is silly but is It really silly? Get as much info as you can before hand her pictures her social media profile video real name ID. If you collect all this data it will be harder to become a victim and the thief will go look for someone easier to rob.

If One has an account with savings, then block the card. If They are savings why do you need a card that facilitates withdrawing the money?completely unnecessary. Only the account with everyday money should have a card.

How to be safe? What do you suggest?[/QUOTE]A couple of rules.

1) Never take a girl in your place unless she is someone you really know her for long.

2) If you have your savings in a Colombian bank account (which is stupid) open an account deposit 400 US $ and always use this debit when you go out at night. In the worst scenario you 'll loose 400 US $.

3) I have never been drugged with scopolamine and I do not know if someone can do something with his will or not. In case he can then I would carry an iv drug with me. In a matter of minutes scopolamine's effects will disappear.

Anyone stay at the Alori in Laureles and have issue with guests? Kinda iffy on how to interpret their policy?

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2488401]
Hot girls on SA in the states ask for at least $5000 month. [/QUOTE]Where did you find this information? Thanks for sharing.

[QUOTE=Bookie77;2498771]A couple of rules.

1) Never take a girl in your place unless she is someone you really know her for long.

2) If you have your savings in a Colombian bank account (which is stupid) open an account deposit 400 US $ and always use this debit when you go out at night. In the worst scenario you 'll loose 400 US $.

3) I have never been drugged with scopolamine and I do not know if someone can do something with his will or not. In case he can then I would carry an iv drug with me. In a matter of minutes scopolamine's effects will disappear.[/QUOTE]I brought almost all the girls I had at home, and I didn't know any. To get drugged you need to drink or ingest something. One even slept with me. If someone is so afraid to get drugged or killed, then he should stay at home.

Ok age, few lbs, dropping her to 7. But she's apretty thing that can turn it on when she wants to in the bedroom. Definitely know how to please and very girly girly. This week was a back and forth hagling over price. I want it to be free just gifts. She wanted gifts and money. I said no. Then it was free, then switch to 3000 mil. I said no. Then switch to 150 9 am to 7 pm. She canceled then call me in the morning to come. I said no. Finally today agreed on 150 4 hrs. Settle cause it was going to be my last go around. Anyways 9 am turned into 11:30 am arrival. God knows what she was doing beforehand but she looked clean, smell good. Was ready to hit it. We got into the apartment and she loved it. 3rd girl love it. Had my camera set up for video. She said no video I said callate. Flexing my muscles. We started with affection then kisses. She was into it. I said okay she misses me. She strip naked. Went right to eating the pussy. She alleges she loves our sex. I will admit its total chemistry. I am licking the pussy good. She hits my hands twice. I am confuse why. She says 4 fingers inside my pussy. I am like really. She says yes. Well okay I put four fingers in rather easily and she's grinding to my fingers while I lick her pussy. She normally subject me to lenghty time licking her pussy like she's paying. But this time she was directing me to make her cum. She tells me put 2 fingers in and push it in and out. She starts rubbing her clit really fast the grabbing my head closer. I start licking harder. She grinds faster and thighs clasp my head. As she starts I lick harder and she's going nuts. Eyes rolling in back of her head. Shaking, out of breath, smiling. I had to pat myself on the back. Job well done. Part 2 after my 2 mike walk.

My trip is over and it's time to draft a few conclusions.

[B]Weather[/B]

Definitely 10 out of 10. Absolutely amazing. Perfect for a person like me. Best thing of Medellin.

[B]Nature[/B]

The nature and Medellin surroundings are very nice. I like the contrast of a tropical forest in a city. 8/10.

[B]Architecture[/B]

Quite awful. I didn't like the tall buildings, most of them are ugly, and those 3/4 floors' units aren't really appealing. Vote 5/10.

[B]Infrastructure[/B]

Impressed by the state and quality of the roads, and all the work in progress in Laureles. Better than some European countries. 8/10. I didn't try the metro, but only for the fact it does exist, and there is also a metro cable, I mean, it definitely deserves 8.

[B]Food[/B]

Great value for money. 8/10. El Cielo deserves 10, best restaurant in the city, followed by La Provincia.

[B]Technology[/B]

Almost no one knew I could pay with my phone, but all the shops accept credit card. There are banks everywhere, 4 G works well and fast (at least with Movistar) but it's expensive. Everyone is using WhatsApp. You can order food on line or a taxi. I felt at home. Definitely not Cuba. It's a modern city.

[B]Transport[/B]

Deadly cheap for a tourist. Reliable. Uber, Cabify, official taxis and another app I don't remember the name, they all work great. Just check the prices because sometimes Cabify is cheaper, sometimes Uber is the best option. Official taxis are in general a bit more expensive but still cheap. Metro is available and cheap. Local bus, I don't know, I didn't use them. 9/10.

[B]Accomodation[/B]

You can find for a decent price a very good, European or North America standard level accomodation. No way you have the same in Africa, not even in Brazil. Definitely 9/10. Just be careful when you reserve that the place is guests friendly.

[B]Security[/B]

Overall Laureles and El Poblado are, IMHO, quite secure. El Centro is dangerous. If you go there, leave your phone at home, and bring just the cash to bang a couple of girls. 100 k /150 k is all you need. Best time for a monger between 4 and 7. After is useless and not recommended. The city centre is usually the most secure part of a city, in Medellin is not, on the contrary is the place where all the thieves and drug users live. If Tokyo is 10/10, Medellin is 6/10, with El Centro 4/10. I felt sufficiently secure.

[B]Girls[/B]

Well, this is hard. I mean, it was hard when I was there. LOL. Just kidding. They aren't attractive like expected. You'll see many girls with fake boobs and ass, but the model figure is really an exception. The face, which makes half of a girl IMHO, isn't the face of a Russian woman. I mean, better than Mexicans, but Brazil is another world. People said in Medellin girls are better than in Cuba, but I disagree. In Cuba there is more variety. You can find the blond, tall with blue eyes, which you will not find in Medellin. The women are quite standard. Not many black either, at least in Medellin. I like fake boobs, but I like when they are on a fit body, which is usually not the case in Medellin. That said, I had some beauty girls of different shapes and colors. LOL.

Most of the Prepagos don't show the face. I sent back one because I didn't like it. Agencies aren't really professional. I ordered two girls for a trio, reserved the day before, confirmed the same day in the morning for the night, expressively chosen 2 girls in particular. In the end only one came and she wasn't even the one I have chosen. Send her back, once again. Top girls (if you can say top, because you can't see the faces) are expensive. Only basic services are included in the price. Many girls do not kiss unless you pay more, and they do oral covered. So, if you want GFE you need to pay for it, and even if you pay you can't be sure you are going to get it.

I fucked prepagos, girls from Facebook, Badoo, and girls I met "en El Centro". I can say I had 5 great experiences. One Prepagos had amazing natural tits, pretty face, great body. She got an orgasm and she squirted all over my face. It was great. I had a girl from Facebook, a nurse, who gave me real GFE (anal included, twice) and she didn't save herself, really. She also slept with me one night, for no additional price. A girl from El Centro spent with me an entire afternoon visiting the botanic garden, park explora, she then came to my place when we spent a couple of hours together, all for 100. I have seen her twice, plus I banged her "en el Centro" for 30 k. It was an incredible test drive. I fucked her so hard that she was shaking. Another Prepagos I paid for one hour, stayed 2 hours and half. We made it twice, and she loved it. Before she left she started to tell me she is into BDSM, because she wanted to have a session. But I didn't have time, plus I wanted to test other girls. Finally, the 5th girl was the best. I met this girl on Badoo. She was looking 16, but she was 19. She definitely needed a beautician session, but she was no more than 45 kg, a small girl, which a really nice body. I didn't negotiate a price. I told her I would have paid, but we didn't even discuss a price. She took Uber, which she paid with her own money. We met at my place, we spoke for 20 minutes, then we kissed for a while and we moved to the bedroom. We fucked bareback, and I came twice. I have always used the condom, but this time, I don't know, she was on top of me, I was hard, and she naturally helped my dick inside her. What a great fuck. We spoke in between. Then I had enough, I couldn't do a third any soon. She understood and she dressed up to go. She didn't ask any money! I took 150 k from my pocket and I gave it to her. She didn't check, she didn't count, she didn't even know how much I gave her. Banknotes were fold, she couldn't even guess. She took the money and put it inside her jeans. She paid again for her Uber. I asked her if she was happy and she told me yes. I think she would have been happy with 50 k or 100 k, because she had pleasure, but I gave her 150 k because she well deserved it. That was the best experience I had.

In conclusion, I think you can have some amazing experience in Medellin, but if you are looking for a superhot, you better go elsewhere. Take a look at the escorts you can find in Rio or Sao Paulo, and you'll see the difference. Overall, I had a great time, and I might return in the future, but I want to explore Brazil and Africa before. Vote 8/10.

NHey there are some documentaries on scopolamine on YouTube from reliable sources that suggest the substance or something similar can actually be "Breath in through the air. " Like someone can throw the substance your way. Another documentary mentioned the girl puts it on her breast before you suck tthat. Or some guy said they put it inside a magazine and Then give you the magazine. Or if you're driving a car pull down the window On a stoplight someone will get near you and throw the ssubstance toward your face. Correct me if I'm wrong here. But this is a recurring theme. This happened to a friend ofA friend supposedly he immediately felt dizzy and not fit to driive but was able to drive away park the car and wait sometime to regain complete consciousness before driving home. He ussed his cell phone to call safety.

I think most people who talk about this are not trying to cause anxiety or scare people. They're just trying to raise awareness and share knowledge you can feel more confident looking after your safety.

[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2498891]I brought almost all the girls I had at home, and I didn't know any. To get drugged you need to drink or ingest something. One even slept with me. If someone is so afraid to get drugged or killed, then he should stay at home.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2498891]One even slept with me. If someone is so afraid to get drugged or killed, then he should stay at home.[/QUOTE]Speaking of getting drugged or killed, does anyone know what happened to SJobs?

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2498616]The Envigado house rental was a success! Probably about 30 people at the party, with a good ratio. Maybe 10 guys and 2 of them were gay. The place looked like a frat house, today. The pool was in use, the music was good, and all the sexy ladies were dancing like it was their last night of being alive.

I had a 18yo cutie from Tinder that came down and wanted to go to the bedroom, immediately. I didn't want to start the day by sneaking in a quick lay and getting caught by my girl, so I told her another time. Then, as she loosened up and the party was going, I couldn't resist. She told me to get a condom but my girl and her friend were in my room getting ready, so I opted for a lovely blowjob. She told me to go get a condom, again. I told her next time. Later, we had a 3 way kiss with my girl and discussed her coming over to the new apartment, which is fucking amazing, by the way. Paid for her Uber both ways. I ended the night with a 3 some with my girl and her lesbian best friend. This morning, I had another round with my girl, and another when we went for an afternoon nap.

The manager and owner both messaged me about my girl and her friend showing their cedulas, because the portero was worried they were menores. My girl's friend does look 12, so I wasn't terribly offended. Got that all sorted out, and crushed some hangover Rappi.[/QUOTE]Hey. Well done! I had given up on Halloween party fun of any sort due to the dry law and curfew. I've been occupied with a Venezuelan house guest. So, not following this thread lately. But, you pulled off a nice party! Congratulations. How does one get on your guest list?

[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2498891]I brought almost all the girls I had at home, and I didn't know any. To get drugged you need to drink or ingest something. One even slept with me. If someone is so afraid to get drugged or killed, then he should stay at home.[/QUOTE]Yes indeed someone has to drink, ingest or sniff something. But on the other hand even if it hasn't happened to you yet it doesn't mean that it won't happen in the future. There are so many people who got drugged by scopolamina and it happens all the time. It doesn't hurt to watch out.

[QUOTE=Frank11;2498929]NHey there are some documentaries on scopolamine on YouTube from reliable sources that suggest the substance or something similar can actually be "Breath in through the air. " Like someone can throw the substance your way. Another documentary mentioned the girl puts it on her breast before you suck tthat. Or some guy said they put it inside a magazine and Then give you the magazine. Or if you're driving a car pull down the window On a stoplight someone will get near you and throw the ssubstance toward your face. Correct me if I'm wrong here. But this is a recurring theme. This happened to a friend ofA friend supposedly he immediately felt dizzy and not fit to driive but was able to drive away park the car and wait sometime to regain complete consciousness before driving home. He ussed his cell phone to call safety.

I think most people who talk about this are not trying to cause anxiety or scare people. They're just trying to raise awareness and share knowledge you can feel more confident looking after your safety.[/QUOTE]Almost everything you mentioned clearly didn't come from reliable or intelligent sources. Nor would anyone with sense believe any of them.

1. "Someone can throw the substance your way." - Try that. Go outside, take a handful of flour and throw it. No further explanation needed.

2. "The girl puts it on her breast." - What happens if you rub the breast first? You realize, to account for what gets rubbed off by her clothes, plus what you might rub off, plus having enough to incapacitate you, she's going to have to put 1 cm of scopolamine on each breast?

3. "They put it inside a magazine and then give you the magazine. " - And then you pick up the magazine wrong and it all falls out. Or you don't open the magazine. Or you open the magazine but for some unknown reason decide not to snort the powder you find there.

4. "Or if you're driving a car." - So they throw it in your face at a stop light. 3 or 4 minutes later you crash your car 2 miles away, police are called a crowd gathers and how does it work from there? They steal an ambulance, pretend to be paramedics, load you into the ambulance. Okay.

I think most people who spread this kind of garbage shouldn't be let out without adult supervision. And anyone who believes any of this type of stuff needs to stay at home and let their parents take care of them.

According to reliable sources, this is what happens. Someone, typically a woman, will put scopolamine in the victim's drink. The initial effect is like being drunk. They use your altered state to clean you out and leave you passed out.

No secret agent crap. Just simply dropping something in the drink and waiting for it to take effect.

You should be able to figure out how to protect yourself from that.

[QUOTE=Bookie77;2498771]A couple of rules.

1) Never take a girl in your place unless she is someone you really know her for long.

2) If you have your savings in a Colombian bank account (which is stupid) open an account deposit 400 US $ and always use this debit when you go out at night. In the worst scenario you 'll loose 400 US $.

3) I have never been drugged with scopolamine and I do not know if someone can do something with his will or not. In case he can then I would carry an iv drug with me. In a matter of minutes scopolamine's effects will disappear.[/QUOTE]1. So, move to Colombia for 6 months, meet a girl, meet her family, go to church with her and then after 6 months ask if she will come over and fuck you for money?

2. That's good advice.

3. Which IV drug is this? How do you know how much scopolamine you were given to calculate the dosage needed to counteract it?

Depending on the dosage, scopolamine can knock you out for 12 hours or more.

[QUOTE=Frank11;2498929]NHey there are some documentaries on scopolamine on YouTube from reliable sources that suggest the substance or something similar can actually be "Breath in through the air. " Like someone can throw the substance your way. Another documentary mentioned the girl puts it on her breast before you suck tthat. Or some guy said they put it inside a magazine and Then give you the magazine. Or if you're driving a car pull down the window On a stoplight someone will get near you and throw the ssubstance toward your face. Correct me if I'm wrong here. But this is a recurring theme. This happened to a friend ofA friend supposedly he immediately felt dizzy and not fit to driive but was able to drive away park the car and wait sometime to regain complete consciousness before driving home. He ussed his cell phone to call safety.

I think most people who talk about this are not trying to cause anxiety or scare people. They're just trying to raise awareness and share knowledge you can feel more confident looking after your safety.[/QUOTE]If you read on Wikipedia, to experience drowsiness or paradoxical reaction, which can present with hallucinations, you need to get an overdose. It sounds impossible to me that you can overdose if you touch a magazine (and then you touch your mouth), or someone is blowing the substance in the air (which should drug her too). I'm no expert at all and I don't know which quantity you need to get in your system to overdose and lose the control. I also read this substance rarely causes the effect reported. I'm not saying it's not happening, but I think if you are a careful person, you can avoid this.

I read a report, a few days ago, on a Brazilian forum, about a guy who was doing on the road and he claims he got drugged, and he immediately realized, but he didn't lose control completely and he was able to drive away. It's hard to say what do they use. The guy wasn't able to explain, he just said what happened to him it's true.

Honestly it scares me more what just happened in Vienna, where terrorists randomly killed people who were sitting in bars, because this is something you can't prevent.

So after making her cum I motion for her to suck my dick and she does but just for a little bit and says no mas. I play it cool and go to fuck her. Feels good stroking it missionary then I pull out walk up to her face to fuck her mouth. She's sucking it then gets a text. Taxi guy bring her a bag she says with clothes wants me to go get it. I say hell no anything could be in it. You get it and I walk you out to get it. So she does that. I we come back into the apartment. I have porn on 2 big dick black guys fucking a girl. She likes porn. Starts sucking the head like with intentions. I say leche she says si, I say leche in la boca. She say yes papi. Que rico. I grab her head for deep throat. She pops up from it. Deep gasp and goes back for more. Comes up and mucho spit on the dick. That with her looking so pretty is playing into my mind. She then goes to the twist stroke, and fast motion head to the lips. Again I say leche in la boca. And she takes over. Eyes, spit, stroke, voice, moan. Everything and I explode and she takes every drop. Unbelievable. She goes to the bathroom and comes back out to show me the cum around her mouth. I am like in heaven. Part 3 later.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2498893]Ok age, few lbs, dropping her to 7. But she's apretty thing that can turn it on when she wants to in the bedroom. Definitely know how to please and very girly girly. This week was a back and forth hagling over price. I want it to be free just gifts. She wanted gifts and money. I said no. Then it was free, then switch to 3000 mil. I said no. Then switch to 150 9 am to 7 pm. She canceled then call me in the morning to come. I said no. Finally today agreed on 150 4 hrs. Settle cause it was going to be my last go around. Anyways 9 am turned into 11:30 am arrival. God knows what she was doing beforehand but she looked clean, smell good. Was ready to hit it. We got into the apartment and she loved it. 3rd girl love it. Had my camera set up for video. She said no video I said callate. Flexing my muscles. We started with affection then kisses. She was into it. I said okay she misses me. She strip naked. Went right to eating the pussy. She alleges she loves our sex. I will admit its total chemistry. I am licking the pussy good. She hits my hands twice. I am confuse why. She says 4 fingers inside my pussy. I am like really. She says yes. Well okay I put four fingers in rather easily and she's grinding to my fingers while I lick her pussy. She normally subject me to lenghty time licking her pussy like she's paying. But this time she was directing me to make her cum. She tells me put 2 fingers in and push it in and out. She starts rubbing her clit really fast the grabbing my head closer. I start licking harder. She grinds faster and thighs clasp my head. As she starts I lick harder and she's going nuts. Eyes rolling in back of her head. Shaking, out of breath, smiling. I had to pat myself on the back. Job well done. Part 2 after my 2 mike walk.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2498907] In Cuba there is more variety. You can find the blond, tall with blue eyes, which you will not find in Medellin. The women are quite standard.
In conclusion, I think you can have some amazing experience in Medellin, but if you are looking for a superhot, you better go elsewhere. Take a look at the escorts you can find in Rio or Sao Paulo, and you'll see the difference. Overall, I had a great time, and I might return in the future, but I want to explore Brazil and Africa before. Vote 8/10.[/QUOTE]Great Intel, very curious about these tall blonde Cuban escorts, is there a website?

The escorts curitiba Brazil are also very hot. Maybe Someone knows if this city is more affordable than So Paulo. From experiencce It seemed like a laid-back relaxed city

Some of the finest escort in Col can be found on seeking but you have to dig deep and maybe they are not active that specific month. Beware of time wasting scammers.

[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2498952]If you read on Wikipedia, to experience drowsiness or paradoxical reaction, which can present with hallucinations, you need to get an overdose. It sounds impossible to me that you can overdose if you touch a magazine (and then you touch your mouth), or someone is blowing the substance in the air (which should drug her too). I'm no expert at all and I don't know which quantity you need to get in your system to overdose and lose the control. I also read this substance rarely causes the effect reported. I'm not saying it's not happening, but I think if you are a careful person, you can avoid this.

I read a report, a few days ago, on a Brazilian forum, about a guy who was doing on the road and he claims he got drugged, and he immediately realized, but he didn't lose control completely and he was able to drive away. It's hard to say what do they use. The guy wasn't able to explain, he just said what happened to him it's true.

Honestly it scares me more what just happened in Vienna, where terrorists randomly killed people who were sitting in bars, because this is something you can't prevent.[/QUOTE]Yes, this is a contentious topic. The drug is worse for the victim mixed with drinks and food. However, I Suppose the victim can also inhale the drug. Like if someone puts it on the victim's hands and then tthey touch their nosse. But yeah people disagree on this and some people say only through food and drinks.

Yes I completely admit this is "doubtful" informatiion but it is a recurring theme.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2498947]1. So, move to Colombia for 6 months, meet a girl, meet her family, go to church with her and then after 6 months ask if she will come over and fuck you for money?

2. That's good advice.

3. Which IV drug is this? How do you know how much scopolamine you were given to calculate the dosage needed to counteract it?

Depending on the dosage, scopolamine can knock you out for 12 hours or more.[/QUOTE]There is a better alternative go to a love hotel. It doesn't matter the dosage of scopolamine since the only thing you need is an antagonist for it to block the receptors and it can be done with a minimal dosage. Ask your neurologist I am pretty sure he will answer all the questions you may have.

Okay guys here is the vice documentary On s scopolamine.
[URL]https://youtu.be/ToQ8PWYnu04?t=408[/URL].

In minute 648 they say you don't need to drink or eat the drug to become a victim you just need to sniff the drug. It came out years ago so I Don't remember every detail. Sorry.

Okay here is another scene from the Vice scopolamine documentary. [URL]https://youtu.be/ToQ8PWYnu04?t=1530[/URL]

In minute 2530 the girl with the stripe sweater says she knocked on someone's door and when the Lady inside the house opened the little window to see "who Is it " The criminal Uses her arm to Push a little paper with the scopolamine towards her victims face and according to the criminal the victim fell immediately on the floor had a heart attack and died.

this is similar to the story From a friend About a friend who had his window down and some Criminal "pushed" the substance towards his face. Yes guys I agree it's a contentious topic. But like I say the stories just keep popping up. You decide if it is true. I don't know myself. But at least now you know about It.

[QUOTE=Frank11;2498974]Okay here is another scene from the Vice scopolamine documentary. [URL]https://youtu.be/ToQ8PWYnu04?t=1530[/URL]

In minute 2530 the girl with the stripe sweater says she knocked on someone's door and when the Lady inside the house opened the little window to see "who Is it " The criminal Uses her arm to Push a little paper with the scopolamine towards her victims face and according to the criminal the victim fell immediately on the floor had a heart attack and died.

this is similar to the story From a friend About a friend who had his window down and some Criminal "pushed" the substance towards his face. Yes guys I agree it's a contentious topic. But like I say the stories just keep popping up. You decide if it is true. I don't know myself. But at least now you know about It.[/QUOTE]Here's a basic rule that applies across almost every subject:

Any "friend of a friend" story is complete bullshit.

In my lifetime I've had at least 30 people tell me about a "friend of a friend" who found a 1963 Chevrolet Split Window Corvette Stingray in a barn. Practically every time the car had been bought brand new by a young man just before he was sent to the Vietnam war, where he was killed. So of course the car was in perfect condition with almost no miles on it. The parents agreed to sell the car to the "friend of a friend" for a ridiculously low price.

There are probably 300,000 "friend of a friend" who have found one of these rare cars. Only problem is, only 21 k were ever made.

A "friend of a friend" story, even if told by someone you know and trust involves at least 2 unknown people. That's assuming that the "friend of a friend" didn't originally hear the story from a "friend of a friend."

Unless you're talking to the person the event happened to, don't put much faith in it.

[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2498907]My trip is over and it's time to draft a few conclusions.

[B]Architecture[/B]

Quite awful. I didn't like the tall buildings, most of them are ugly, and those 3/4 floors' units aren't really appealing. Vote 5/10.[/QUOTE]I haven't been to any place that had such a contrast of Spanish Mission and Modern as Medellin, maybe Barcelona but I've never been there. Random pics from my phone after a quick scan:

As far as exploring other parts of the world, as the saying goes don't let the door hit your ass on your way out. I respect and encourage Gringos to look elsewhere and leave Medellin behind, for those of us who prefer it to other hot spots in the world.

One of these things are not like the others!

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2499012]I haven't been to any place that had such a contrast of Spanish Mission and Modern as Medellin, maybe Barcelona but I've never been there. Random pics from my phone after a quick scan:

As far as exploring other parts of the world, as the saying goes don't let the door hit your ass on your way out. I respect and encourage Gringos to look elsewhere and leave Medellin behind, for those of us who prefer it to other hot spots in the world.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2499012]I haven't been to any place that had such a contrast of Spanish Mission and Modern as Medellin, maybe Barcelona but I've never been there. Random pics from my phone after a quick scan:

As far as exploring other parts of the world, as the saying goes don't let the door hit your ass on your way out. I respect and encourage Gringos to look elsewhere and leave Medellin behind, for those of us who prefer it to other hot spots in the world.[/QUOTE]The ass is the only nice building I see.

Barcelona is an amazing city, you can't really compare.

Since you guys are harping on dumb stuff that affects 1% of the population. Took a trip to this casa. 4 minutes from manila. Sophisticated entry. Take ID enter in the system then take your picture. Directions to the room. I had been chatting with a natural body colombian. Natural body, no kids, look like had a booty. I got to the door. Doorbell. Theres like 5 bedrooms. We go to her room. Its ok. I pay her. Body looks does not disappoint. Tight tight. She has no music so I volunteer. She dances jokes and gives me some affection. Bit of jokester or clever chick. Can't decipher at the moment. She kiss on my chest. I lift her up. Testing if my workouts going good. Turn her over. Kiss on her back. She's sensitive. Turn her over and eat her pussy. She reacts good. Now I check to see if she's going to suck it raw. No go. She puts me on my back kisses on my chest and try me. Rush trying to sit on it. I tell her no. Suck my dick thats what i told you i like. She sucks it with alot of acting and humor which is half cutting it. I don't play around when it comes to sex. I give her that look. Want you suck this shit good. I think she got the message. She Got into it. Ok now I am happy, you can get on top. She rides me. Pussy tight. She comes really hard. My talking affects her. Got her the way I want her. Comes 2 more times says need a timeout. Go to doggy. I can hit the back. Suave then aggressive. Good time. Hit it hard. Go to missionary. Good time hit it hard. She makes me stop. Says no mas. I give her the look again. Give me my money or else. its only been 30 minutes. She turns on her back. I go to my missionary cum fuck position. Suave is feeling real good. I am looking at her and thinking about other chicks and my strokes feel real good. I explode and she loves it. cause she's grinding the cum out, making the explosion more intense. She's holding me, caressing me as I scream and yell. Real girlfriend moment. Perfecting ending. We fuck around for remaining 9 minutes and that was it. 130 mil. Too much for 1 hour. slapdiditall said it best. No place like fucking a girl in your apartment.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2499012]I haven't been to any place that had such a contrast of Spanish Mission and Modern as Medellin, maybe Barcelona but I've never been there. Random pics from my phone after a quick scan:

As far as exploring other parts of the world, as the saying goes don't let the door hit your ass on your way out. I respect and encourage Gringos to look elsewhere and leave Medellin behind, for those of us who prefer it to other hot spots in the world.[/QUOTE]I get what you mean about the contrast. Personally I think the contrast I saw in Mexico City is probably a little more striking. If you drive down Paseo de la Reforma you see the glass and steel of modern skyscrapers but then go to the Zocalo and see the grand buildings in spanish colonial, neighborhoods like La Condesa are filled with striking examples of spanish mission homes. Years ago when I was young (er) and thin I did a trip to Mexico City and before I went I chatted up about 20 chicas on Latin American Cupid, I was honest and said I am coming for a vacation and looking for dates and women to show me around. Once on the ground I netted free pussy from five different chicas. One chica came by my hotel everyday on her lunch time from work. Best goddamn vacation ever! Those were the days. The prices for pay for play are out of my budget range there though.

Barcelona on the other hand is different, different in its own way. I almost want to say it is unique architecturally speaking because Antonio Gaud (whos buildings can be described as downright weird) and the modernists he influenced etc had such an impact that no city really looks like Barcelona. Barcelona is not much of a monger destination unless you want to pay like $250 USD an hour and mess around with a lot of bait and switch escort sites (I am sure that more experienced mongers there have better luck) - but if you want to travel to see architecture then you should not miss Barcelona.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2498590]After viewing this video what's obvious is that this individual had a credit / debit card with a Colombian bank, and my bet it was Bancolombia. If it had been a card from a USA bank, the card would of been blocked after a few transactions, and regardless, the user would not be liable for fraudulent use. It's unfortunate what happened and the mistake he made was carrying the card with him outside of his Hotel but perhaps based on what transpired he didn't have the option to lock it up before going out. God forbid if the Chica had been allowed in his Hotel, he may have been missing a lot more.[/QUOTE]I just transfer some "play money" from my main account to my sofi account (I leave my main debit at home). Best way to do it IMO.

[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2499196]The ass is the only nice building I see.

Barcelona is an amazing city, you can't really compare.[/QUOTE]There's absolutely no comparison. I love MDE for chicas and weather. But it's not even in the same universe as Barcelona for architecture offerings.

Of course, I've been to Barcelona once and MDE about 30 times, so I guess women and weather are more of a priority for me.

So I just booked a place in Laureles and before I booked it, I asked several questions regarding visitor polices since the place didn't say anything regarding "no sex tourism. " Basically did not shown it under House Rules. So I inquired regarding visitor policies and the host said "you can have visitors (up to two max three). I do not allow big parties or loud music at the apartment. You can enjoy the place without disturbing our neighbors."

I asked "Does that mean max 2 per visit or max 2 for the entire booking of 2 weeks?

She replied "If you're going to be with someone else the entire booking, please add this guest to the reservation. Right now, the inquiry is just for 1 guest. You can make a reservation for up to 4 guests. But, if you are going to inviting someone over just to hang out, no to a sleepover a couple of times per week, you can invite up to 2 max 3 persons."

After I booked the place, I got an email telling me the House Manual. Basically, rules and direction when staying in the airbnb, and it states that there is "No sex tourism." Even though, the host didn't advertised that House Rules through Airbnb website and was fine when I asked regarding visitor policies. What the hell? What should I do in this case? And this place got strict refund policies. I don't want to get kicked out, find a new place, and then lose money in the middle of booking. Need advice here on what to do. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2499199]Since you guys are harping on dumb stuff that affects 1% of the population. Took a trip to this casa. 4 minutes from manila. Sophisticated entry. Take ID enter in the system then take your picture. Directions to the room. I had been chatting with a natural body colombian. Natural body, no kids, look like had a booty. I got to the door. Doorbell. Theres like 5 bedrooms. We go to her room. Its ok. I pay her. Body looks does not disappoint. Tight tight. She has no music so I volunteer. She dances jokes and gives me some affection. Bit of jokester or clever chick. Can't decipher at the moment. She kiss on my chest. I lift her up. Testing if my workouts going good. Turn her over. Kiss on her back. She's sensitive. Turn her over and eat her pussy. She reacts good. Now I check to see if she's going to suck it raw. No go. She puts me on my back kisses on my chest and try me. Rush trying to sit on it. I tell her no. Suck my dick thats what i told you i like. She sucks it with alot of acting and humor which is half cutting it. I don't play around when it comes to sex. I give her that look. Want you suck this shit good. I think she got the message. She Got into it. Ok now I am happy, you can get on top. She rides me. Pussy tight. She comes really hard. My talking affects her. Got her the way I want her. Comes 2 more times says need a timeout. Go to doggy. I can hit the back. Suave then aggressive. Good time. Hit it hard. Go to missionary. Good time hit it hard. She makes me stop. Says no mas. I give her the look again. Give me my money or else. its only been 30 minutes. She turns on her back. I go to my missionary cum fuck position. Suave is feeling real good. I am looking at her and thinking about other chicks and my strokes feel real good. I explode and she loves it. cause she's grinding the cum out, making the explosion more intense. She's holding me, caressing me as I scream and yell. Real girlfriend moment. Perfecting ending. We fuck around for remaining 9 minutes and that was it. 130 mil. Too much for 1 hour. slapdiditall said it best. No place like fucking a girl in your apartment.[/QUOTE]Welcome to the real world and the real prices Blackman.

[QUOTE=Combo;2499297]There's absolutely no comparison. I love MDE for chicas and weather. But it's not even in the same universe as Barcelona for architecture offerings.

Of course, I've been to Barcelona once and MDE about 30 times, so I guess women and weather are more of a priority for me.[/QUOTE]That's because you love Botero more than Gaudi.'

[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2498907]They aren't attractive like expected. You'll see many girls with fake boobs and ass, but the model figure is really an exception. The face, which makes half of a girl IMHO, isn't the face of a Russian woman. I mean, better than Mexicans, but Brazil is another world. People said in Medellin girls are better than in Cuba, but I disagree. In Cuba there is more variety. You can find the Top girls (if you can say top, because you can't see the faces) are expensive. Only basic services are included in the price. Many girls do not kiss unless you pay more, and they do oral covered. So, if you want GFE you need to pay for it, and even if you pay you can't be sure you are going to get it.

Finally, the 5th girl was the best. I met this girl on Badoo. She was looking 16, but she was 19. She definitely needed a beautician session, but she was no more than 45 kg, a small girl, which a really nice body. I didn't negotiate a price. I told her I would have paid, but we didn't even discuss a price. She took Uber, which she paid with her own money. We met at my place, we spoke for 20 minutes, then we kissed for a while and we moved to the bedroom. We fucked bareback, and I came twice. I have always used the condom, but this time, I don't know, she was on top of me, I was hard, and she naturally helped my dick inside her. What a great fuck. We spoke in between. Then I had enough, I couldn't do a third any soon. She understood and she dressed up to go..[/QUOTE]Really good honest report, Incrociatore. I share the same sentiments. The first time I was in Medellin and Bogota I was not that impressed. You could find an 8 anywhere in Argentina, and Sao Paulo had more 10's than any city I have ever seen. Quite frankly, with all I had heard about Medellin, I was underwhelmed and as another poster told me via PM, the women in Medellin can be very cocky.

I think the reason Medellin is written about so much with most guys was: the mansion, the flights are cheap and easy compared to other countries, and the pussy is dirt cheap. Thing is that you do find the occasional 10 in Colombia (which despite all the 8's in Argentina, I never saw a 10).

It's that last experience that you had, that 5th girl, that in my opinion makes Colombia so special. Your last girl is what I have seen with Colombian women at their best: kind hearted, great lover, and not overly materialistic.

If you can meet them, I think the university students are very impressive as well. I talked to Colombian dental students in Mexico and they found the school there a breeze compared to Colombia. So you will see many of the positive attributes you saw but also hard working and intelligent women to boot. It is just my two cents but I have found Colombians to be more intelligent and better companions than Brazilians and Argentines.

But if you want to have the best fucks, Brazil has Colombia beat. If you want cheap, I think Mexico is better than Colombia now due to the Covid test.

The cost and logistics of the PCR Covid test have really put a damper on the benefits of Colombia. If I was starting out new, I would recommend against going to Colombia.

[QUOTE=TDC985;2499309]So I just booked a place in Laureles and before I booked it, I asked several questions regarding visitor polices since the place didn't say anything regarding "no sex tourism. " Basically did not shown it under House Rules. So I inquired regarding visitor policies and the host said "you can have visitors (up to two max three). I do not allow big parties or loud music at the apartment. You can enjoy the place without disturbing our neighbors."

I asked "Does that mean max 2 per visit or max 2 for the entire booking of 2 weeks?

She replied "If you're going to be with someone else the entire booking, please add this guest to the reservation. Right now, the inquiry is just for 1 guest. You can make a reservation for up to 4 guests. But, if you are going to inviting someone over just to hang out, no to a sleepover a couple of times per week, you can invite up to 2 max 3 persons."

After I booked the place, I got an email telling me the House Manual. Basically, rules and direction when staying in the airbnb, and it states that there is "No sex tourism." Even though, the host didn't advertised that House Rules through Airbnb website and was fine when I asked regarding visitor policies. What the hell? What should I do in this case? And this place got strict refund policies. I don't want to get kicked out, find a new place, and then lose money in the middle of booking. Need advice here on what to do. Thanks.[/QUOTE]You are an adult, you are accountable, many of us who live here in Medellin have told other board members numerous times, stop trying to live in American Type environments while in Colombia and then get upset when you are not allowed to have female visitors over. They know that you do not understand the house rules that's why they do no display it on Airbnb. Its your money, ask like a man, can I have female visitors over without a fine or it being a problem. If you cannot be clear about what you want and what you expect, then these Colombians will continue to rip you off and force you to pay for your lessons. There are many places in Medellin you can stay and not have this problem, problem is that most of these places are located in Centro or outside of Poblado or Laureles. At least this is another warning to other board members to speak up when booking a place to stay in Medellin, or risk losing your money! Pollo Negro is out!

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2499456]You are an adult, you are accountable, many of us who live here in Medellin have told other board members numerous times, stop trying to live in American Type environments while in Colombia and then get upset when you are not allowed to have female visitors over. They know that you do not understand the house rules that's why they do no display it on Airbnb. Its your money, ask like a man, can I have female visitors over without a fine or it being a problem. If you cannot be clear about what you want and what you expect, then these Colombians will continue to rip you off and force you to pay for your lessons. There are many places in Medellin you can stay and not have this problem, problem is that most of these places are located in Centro or outside of Poblado or Laureles. At least this is another warning to other board members to speak up when booking a place to stay in Medellin, or risk losing your money! Pollo Negro is out![/QUOTE]Pollo Negro, I appreciate your input as I am monitoring this board daily since I plan to take my first visit to MDE in Jan and this seems to be genuine obstacle. To be fair to TDC985 he did exercise due diligence and ask a number of questions before booking. You are saying stop trying to live in American type environments, yes I fully agree with you when you are experienced within a particular location and already have the lay of the land, that's easy to do and very beneficial. Thats what I do when I'm in Thailand, I get as far away from Gringos as possible and live among locals deep within Issan which is easy to do when you already have a handle on how things work.

For a first visit to MDE I have also narrowed down my location to Laureles Estadio just so I can get an initial lay of the land in what I perceive to be a safe environment in good proximity to El Centro. You say there are many places where we can stay and not have this problem, kindly advise us as first time mongers in MDE how we can go about finding out more about these, since we are not on the ground there and are normally limited to airbnb and reports from this board and others like it?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2499430]Really good honest report, Incrociatore. I share the same sentiments. The first time I was in Medellin and Bogota I was not that impressed. You could find an 8 anywhere in Argentina, and Sao Paulo had more 10's than any city I have ever seen. Quite frankly, with all I had heard about Medellin, I was underwhelmed and as another poster told me via PM, the women in Medellin can be very cocky.

I think the reason Medellin is written about so much with most guys was: the mansion, the flights are cheap and easy compared to other countries, and the pussy is dirt cheap. Thing is that you do find the occasional 10 in Colombia (which despite all the 8's in Argentina, I never saw a 10).

It's that last experience that you had, that 5th girl, that in my opinion makes Colombia so special. Your last girl is what I have seen with Colombian women at their best: kind hearted, great lover, and not overly materialistic.

If you can meet them, I think the university students are very impressive as well. I talked to Colombian dental students in Mexico and they found the school there a breeze compared to Colombia. So you will see many of the positive attributes you saw but also hard working and intelligent women to boot. It is just my two cents but I have found Colombians to be more intelligent and better companions than Brazilians and Argentines..[/QUOTE]Thank you for your point of view Elvis. I totally agree.

I haven't been in Argentina, neither in Brazil yet, and I didn't visit Mexico, so I can't compare, or I can just compare from what I see on the websites and I read on local forums. Prices are there, and I have already contacted some really hot pregagos. Yes, I do agree, the last experience, but also the other girl I met "en el centro" made my holidays. In Cuba, 10 years ago, I got 2 girls for free, one was 18 and the other 19. The 19 one was blonde, slim and she was teasing like no one else. She was really my type. I spent hours in the water, in one of the best beach of the island, because I couldn't get out. I had a bone the whole time. She was kissing me and teasing in the water. I couldn't fuck her in front her mother, I had to wait the day after when she came to my place. I wanted to invite her in my country but then I had a series of problems and it didn't happen. It was 10 years ago, I was younger, but I think it's still possible in Cuba. Definitely. And I'm sure it's possible in Colombia as well. Even at my age.

Maybe not in Brazil, but that's not what I'm looking for, not anymore. I can afford to pay and I like my independence. I'm looking for GFE experience, not for a girlfriend, if you know what I mean. And I think I maybe able to find it in Brazil as well, with the right chemistry. We'll see.

The cost of this trip for me was huge. First of all, I'm European, and because of Trump I can't travel through the States. I didn't know. I thought, since I was in transit, I could change airplane in Miami, instead I couldn't. I discovered when I was at the airport. I had to book a one way flight for Ecuador, through Madrid, to get to Colombia. It was a crazy journey. I got back from Miami, but I couldn't transit there on my first flight. Ridiculous. I mean, I couldn't enter in US with a negative covid test, but I was able to enter 15 days later, after I fucked 20 prostitutes in Colombia. Because of that, on top of the Covid test, I had to pay two other tickets. I ended up to spend like $1700 for the flights, which is insane. If I knew, I would have chosen another destination. But I would have lost AirBnb money and it was too late to book elsewhere, so I said "fuck it" and I found a way to get there. My dick was driving the car, if you know what I mean.

If they do not cancel my flight, I'll be in Brazil in a couple of weeks, and I will probably report in the Sao Paulo forum, but I may spend a few minutes to report here as well with my impressions. This time I booked a direct flight. It's faster and cheaper than the first one I got for Medellin, so it's already a good deal.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2499430] The cost and logistics of the PCR Covid test have really put a damper on the benefits of Colombia. If I was starting out new, I would recommend against going to Colombia.[/QUOTE]I don't know what part of the Country your in, but in Southern California the PCR test where I'm getting mine done charges $ 175 with results by midnight the same day if the test is conducted in the early morning. So I guess for some, the $ 175 might be prohibitive, but when you compare the other available mongering options currently available which may have higher air fares to get to, more expensive lodging, and the cost of girls, I think the PCR test would most probably be a wash for weeks trip somewhere when pro-rated. Where would you recommend going at this time, if not Colombia which involves a flight. Perhaps Mexico, but it isn't nearly as cheap as Colombia.

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2499467]Pollo Negro, I appreciate your input as I am monitoring this board daily since I plan to take my first visit to MDE in Jan and this seems to be genuine obstacle. To be fair to TDC985 he did exercise due diligence and ask a number of questions before booking. You are saying stop trying to live in American type environments, yes I fully agree with you when you are experienced within a particular location and already have the lay of the land, that's easy to do and very beneficial. Thats what I do when I'm in Thailand, I get as far away from Gringos as possible and live among locals deep within Issan which is easy to do when you already have a handle on how things work.

For a first visit to MDE I have also narrowed down my location to Laureles Estadio just so I can get an initial lay of the land in what I perceive to be a safe environment in good proximity to El Centro. You say there are many places where we can stay and not have this problem, kindly advise us as first time mongers in MDE how we can go about finding out more about these, since we are not on the ground there and are normally limited to airbnb and reports from this board and others like it?[/QUOTE]The problem, for the first time visitor is, as you said, learning the lay of the land. If you don't speak Spanish, this is more difficult. For a gringo, new to Colombia, without a solid grasp of Spanish, sticking to the gringo zones is a better option. Staying in a building with security is also a safer option.

If you're in the gringo zones, you're more likely to find someone who can advise or accompany you while you learn your way around. And the building security, while not foolproof adds to your peace of mind.

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2499467]Pollo Negro, I appreciate your input as I am monitoring this board daily since I plan to take my first visit to MDE in Jan and this seems to be genuine obstacle. To be fair to TDC985 he did exercise due diligence and ask a number of questions before booking. You are saying stop trying to live in American type environments, yes I fully agree with you when you are experienced within a particular location and already have the lay of the land, that's easy to do and very beneficial. Thats what I do when I'm in Thailand, I get as far away from Gringos as possible and live among locals deep within Issan which is easy to do when you already have a handle on how things work.

For a first visit to MDE I have also narrowed down my location to Laureles Estadio just so I can get an initial lay of the land in what I perceive to be a safe environment in good proximity to El Centro. You say there are many places where we can stay and not have this problem, kindly advise us as first time mongers in MDE how we can go about finding out more about these, since we are not on the ground there and are normally limited to airbnb and reports from this board and others like it?[/QUOTE]If the host doesn't live in the same building, and the neighbors don't complain because you don't make a fuss, then I think you'll not have any problem. But if the host check on you, because it's living there, then you better find another place. Usually AirBnb is ruling in favor of the buyers, like eBay. So if a rule is not part of the house rules, then it should apply to you. And if it does, you can search for another place and change the dates of your stay. At Laureles Factory I violated the rules and I didn't pay for my guests, then I changed apartment. If you are a pain in the ass, they will agree to change dates and you will not use any money, because they want to get rid of you. If they do not agree, you will continue to violate the rule, bringing guests to your place. In the worst case scenario you will get a bad review on AirBnb, but that didn't occur to me. Just be polite and do not make too much noise.

[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2499424]That's because you love Botero more than Gaudi.'[/QUOTE]That must be it!

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2499467]Pollo Negro, I appreciate your input as I am monitoring this board daily since I plan to take my first visit to MDE in Jan and this seems to be genuine obstacle. To be fair to TDC985 he did exercise due diligence and ask a number of questions before booking. You are saying stop trying to live in American type environments, yes I fully agree with you when you are experienced within a particular location and already have the lay of the land, that's easy to do and very beneficial. Thats what I do when I'm in Thailand, I get as far away from Gringos as possible and live among locals deep within Issan which is easy to do when you already have a handle on how things work.

For a first visit to MDE I have also narrowed down my location to Laureles Estadio just so I can get an initial lay of the land in what I perceive to be a safe environment in good proximity to El Centro. You say there are many places where we can stay and not have this problem, kindly advise us as first time mongers in MDE how we can go about finding out more about these, since we are not on the ground there and are normally limited to airbnb and reports from this board and others like it?[/QUOTE]Stay at Energy Living. Can't go wrong there. I've never had issues bringing girls over. Pricey but worth it. Get friendly with security they'll also make sure you don't get drugged.

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2499467]Pollo Negro, I appreciate your input as I am monitoring this board daily since I plan to take my first visit to MDE in Jan and this seems to be genuine obstacle. To be fair to TDC985 he did exercise due diligence and ask a number of questions before booking. You are saying stop trying to live in American type environments, yes I fully agree with you when you are experienced within a particular location and already have the lay of the land, that's easy to do and very beneficial. Thats what I do when I'm in Thailand, I get as far away from Gringos as possible and live among locals deep within Issan which is easy to do when you already have a handle on how things work.

For a first visit to MDE I have also narrowed down my location to Laureles Estadio just so I can get an initial lay of the land in what I perceive to be a safe environment in good proximity to El Centro. You say there are many places where we can stay and not have this problem, kindly advise us as first time mongers in MDE how we can go about finding out more about these, since we are not on the ground there and are normally limited to airbnb and reports from this board and others like it?[/QUOTE]I think you'll have more luck staying in AirBnBs around Parque Lleras, which is a well-known prepago hotspot. Some AirBnB listings will explicitly state "visitor friendly" while some will say "No Sex Tourism" aka boring as f. My current building has porteros but I haven't even come close to getting cockblocked but I grease the wheel a bit by tipping and bringing snacks and gifts for the porteros. Personally, I would avoid the listings run by pseudo-agencies like Laureles Factory Lofts. Hotels (prior to lockdown madness) were very chica-friendly in my experience but they will charge you for unregistered visitors. Occasionally, hotel desk staff would overlook a visitor charge if I had establishing a brief tipping history with that particular staff member.

Look for an air bnb that Reviews say the host is laid-back and absent. This type of host usually delivers the keeys through a locked box with the code. That should be okay if you are having a girl come over once or twice a week. But I read some guys bring 30 girls back to their apartment in a month's time. And sometimes these girls of the type that don't know how to dress discreetly. Well good for them but 30 girls in one month is a little funny too.

I know Group that traveled to Columbia and stayed an airbnbb. The host was completely intrusive she was there to Hand the keys and walked into the apartment with the Group. No one wanted her to be present. The Group rented the apartment without her included in the price. Then 2 days later she came back unannounced To visit her baby apartment. 1 of the Group members was in the toilet and she kept trying to open the door to see if everything was okay In the toilet. Well she was nicee host but completely paranoid and her presence was not welcome. For sure try to stay away from these landlords.

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2499467]Pollo Negro, I appreciate your input as I am monitoring this board daily since I plan to take my first visit to MDE in Jan and this seems to be genuine obstacle. To be fair to TDC985 he did exercise due diligence and ask a number of questions before booking. You are saying stop trying to live in American type environments, yes I fully agree with you when you are experienced within a particular location and already have the lay of the land, that's easy to do and very beneficial. Thats what I do when I'm in Thailand, I get as far away from Gringos as possible and live among locals deep within Issan which is easy to do when you already have a handle on how things work.

For a first visit to MDE I have also narrowed down my location to Laureles Estadio just so I can get an initial lay of the land in what I perceive to be a safe environment in good proximity to El Centro. You say there are many places where we can stay and not have this problem, kindly advise us as first time mongers in MDE how we can go about finding out more about these, since we are not on the ground there and are normally limited to airbnb and reports from this board and others like it?[/QUOTE]Stay near Centro or Stay in Poblado in the ritzy type apartments that allow you to do as you want. Are you afraid to get what you are paying for? Paying girls for sex in this country is not illegal. The Uppity people in these areas want to pretend that it does not exist. Find an apartment that is girl friendly, Centro, Bueno Aires, Barrio Boston!! Just a few to name. Pollo Negro is Out!

I know last weekend for Halloween the city had a curfew, is it staying in place the next few weeks?

Just read that Colombia isn't requiring a covid test anymore.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2499479]I don't know what part of the Country your in, but in Southern California the PCR test where I'm getting mine done charges $ 175 with results by midnight the same day if the test is conducted in the early morning. So I guess for some, the $ 175 might be prohibitive, but when you compare the other available mongering options currently available which may have higher air fares to get to, more expensive lodging, and the cost of girls, I think the PCR test would most probably be a wash for weeks trip somewhere when pro-rated. Where would you recommend going at this time, if not Colombia which involves a flight. Perhaps Mexico, but it isn't nearly as cheap as Colombia.[/QUOTE]According to an article published in Portafoilio today, the COVID test is no longer required for entry into the Country by air, however you still need to register with Migracion beforehand and there are some other new requirements like needing to be at the Airport three hours before departing the Country.

It seems to be true but I recommend travelers confirm with the minsalud website.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2499518]According to an article published in Portafoilio today, the COVID test is no longer required for entry into the Country by air, however you still need to register with Migracion beforehand and there are some other new requirements like needing to be at the Airport three hours before departing the Country.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JustAnatxGuy;2499515]Just read that Colombia isn't requiring a covid test anymore.[/QUOTE]I have also read the same thing on Colombia's Immigration Instagram Page so I'm guessing it's official. I will be traveling there next week for the first time and would love it if I didn't have to test prior to departure. If anyone is going to Colombia within the next 2 weeks, can you confirm and post your experience?

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2499518]According to an article published in Portafoilio today, the COVID test is no longer required for entry into the Country by air, however you still need to register with Migracion beforehand and there are some other new requirements like needing to be at the Airport three hours before departing the Country.[/QUOTE]How accurate is this? I am flying to Colombia end of this month. I was planning to get PCR tested on Friday before flying Monday at a CVS.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2499518]According to an article published in Portafoilio today, the COVID test is no longer required for entry into the Country by air, however you still need to register with Migracion beforehand and there are some other new requirements like needing to be at the Airport three hours before departing the Country.[/QUOTE]If that's correct, I just got a Colombian fuck 6 days before landing in Colombia. Maybe I can move my flight up 1 day.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2499518]According to an article published in Portafoilio today, the COVID test is no longer required for entry into the Country by air, however you still need to register with Migracion beforehand and there are some other new requirements like needing to be at the Airport three hours before departing the Country.[/QUOTE]The US embassy website said otherwise though.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2499518]According to an article published in Portafoilio today, the COVID test is no longer required for entry into the Country by air, however you still need to register with Migracion beforehand and there are some other new requirements like needing to be at the Airport three hours before departing the Country.[/QUOTE]I'm hoping to see something official from the government before Friday. I'd love to save the money for the test, but I'd hate to get to Medellin and be told that the test still is required.

If I can get some confirmation from the government, I'll find out if Copa will let me move up my flight by a day. I'd rather spend that time in Medellin than Miami.

Other than confirming the testing requirement change I'm all set. Bags are packed and ready.

While packing I found I had more pesos than I thought, including lots of small bills and a few coins, just over 250 k. About 10 days ago I mentioned to one of the (alleged) non-pros I still needed to arrange a ride from the airport. Five minutes later, she said her sister (who I've also been talking to) volunteered to drive both of them to pick me up. It's a free ride, although I'll pay for the tunnel, but I think they'll each end up chaperoning the other. I'll have to see them each separately if I've got any chance.

I hit up a girl I consider a semi-pro to set up a haircut. I've known her for close to 3 years, but never been with her. She was a friend of a pro regular of mine. Not sure if she's ever sold pussy or not. Almost certain she's not been discovered by the gringos since she has less than 20 friends on Facebook. She told me she wouldn't charge me for the haircut, but I figure she'll make some money on the deal. She's 21 with no kids, cute flaquita.

I've got 2 pros, one is a repeat, waiting for my call, they'll probably get it. There are 3 other ones who are hoping for a call, but probably won't get it. Besides the sisters, there are 2 other (alleged) non-pros and a questionable non-pro who all have said they'll be spending time with me. The questionable one is hoping for a husband. If she didn't look so damn good, I'd have closed that door long ago.

All that's left is to finish this week and get airborne.

I matched with a chocolate girl on tinder and she said Hello. Her pics were seductive. Tall curvacious body right up my ally. After few text I got aggressive and invited her over. She was receptive to the tactic and countered with a 300 mil proposal. Now I know surfer, jjbee, slaphockey is about to have a heart attack but I said 200 mil including taxi. It was a situation that you don't find tall and natural body in accessible abundance here in Medellin. She tried to hold but I reason about lenght of stay and repetition. Anyways she agrees and mentions she can come after work. 2:30 comes and she says she going home and prepare. I do my cheapman presentation which is just as effective as the richman presentation. Women love manual effort. She says she reaches poblado but takes nearly 1 hour to arrive and text me with a strange number. Anyways I walk down to meet her and face looks familiar but no recollection. Body is hot and face looks good. Not a stunner like 8th. Body her body is damn near perfect to me. Curvacious perfect. We hug kiss. Definitely connection. Enter my apartment. Fresh cut up fruits, popcorn, and another heart attack. I bought liquor. So a glass of that and salud. I mentioned weed and her eyes lit up. But I didn't have any. Had not smoked any since I was last in Colombia. Really isn't my thing as well as licking ass. Sidenote to the surfer man. She says she has, But I am located in a family community so smoking is not allowed. I Suggest to go outside to smoke. She accepts but request to take a shower. I say she fucked before coming. My brother who is in the D.R. Thinks she was just taking advantage of hot water. We go out and smoke. Weed got me lit. I am wondering have I been scopalmine since theres so much talk. We get back, nice music and I give her a massage. Body was just utter perfection in my eyes. Tits, ass, skin color. I told her I like my dick suck good and she did not disappoint. She was skillful in every phase of the cita. She then got on top and we did a variety of positions. I then had her return to sucking my dick. She was so into teasing and so sensual. Just what I needed. I finally blew my lid. Big tony the tiger roar and she cleaned up in the bathroom then layed beside me. Deal was 200 mil 3 hrs 2 leche. She comes out and says I go now. I say no 3 hrs 2 leche. She says well you have 45 minutes. To my surprise she was counting the entertainment time. So she used this tactic that she's about to leave to like get me excited and anxious. Which was working and she helped me to stroke off for nut 2. I walked her out to the taxi after she showered and felt like I missed her already. She was a very good time. Then it dawn on me. Lleras park in March picking up this same girl but she was bigger up top. She slim down to perfection in my eyes. And at lleras park I only paid 100 mil but it was only hour half. What a twist with much better results. We text and she ask to see me again. I said cool but not at 200mil again lol.

[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2499476].............. In Cuba, 10 years ago, I got 2 girls for free, one was 18 and the other 19. The 19 one was blonde, slim and she was teasing like no one else. She was really my type. I spent hours in the water, in one of the best beach of the island, because I couldn't get out. I had a bone the whole time. She was kissing me and teasing in the water. I couldn't fuck her in front her mother, I had to wait the day after when she came to my place. I wanted to invite her in my country but then I had a series of problems and it didn't happen. It was 10 years ago, I was younger, but I think it's still possible in Cuba. Definitely. And I'm sure it's possible in Colombia as well. Even at my age................[/QUOTE]In my last visit to Havana in late 2017 I hooked up with a non pro for my entire ten day trip there, the only time I have ever done that on a monger trip. She happily accepted my handsome payment at the end of my trip. I call her a non pro because she was at my beck and call the entire time I was in the country and I am 99% certain she was with no other guy the entire time of my trip.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2499611]I matched with a chocolate girl on tinder and she said Hello. Her pics were seductive. Tall curvacious body right up my ally. After few text I got aggressive and invited her over. She was receptive to the tactic and countered with a 300 mil proposal. Now I know surfer, jjbee, slaphockey is about to have a heart attack but I said 200 mil including taxi. It was a situation that you don't find tall and natural body in accessible abundance here in Medellin. She tried to hold but I reason about lenght of stay and repetition. Anyways she agrees and mentions she can come after work. 2:30 comes and she says she going home and prepare. I do my cheapman presentation which is just as effective as the richman presentation. Women love manual effort. She says she reaches poblado but takes nearly 1 hour to arrive and text me with a strange number. Anyways I walk down to meet her and face looks familiar but no recollection. Body is hot and face looks good. Not a stunner like 8th. Body her body is damn near perfect to me. Curvacious perfect. We hug kiss. Definitely connection. Enter my apartment. Fresh cut up fruits, popcorn, and another heart attack. I bought liquor. So a glass of that and salud. I mentioned weed and her eyes lit up. But I didn't have any. Had not smoked any since I was last in Colombia. Really isn't my thing as well as licking ass. Sidenote to the surfer man. She says she has, But I am located in a family community so smoking is not allowed. I Suggest to go outside to smoke. She accepts but request to take a shower. I say she fucked before coming. My brother who is in the D.R. Thinks she was just taking advantage of hot water. We go out and smoke. Weed got me lit. I am wondering have I been scopalmine since theres so much talk. We get back, nice music and I give her a massage. Body was just utter perfection in my eyes. Tits, ass, skin color. I told her I like my dick suck good and she did not disappoint. She was skillful in every phase of the cita. She then got on top and we did a variety of positions. I then had her return to sucking my dick. She was so into teasing and so sensual. Just what I needed. I finally blew my lid. Big tony the tiger roar and she cleaned up in the bathroom then layed beside me. Deal was 200 mil 3 hrs 2 leche. She comes out and says I go now..[/QUOTE]I figured out what happened to SJobs. Blakman has multiple personalities and SJobs is his alter ego. Next week he'll have 4 Gusto girls over for $300 each.

Good report.

You'll like this part. I've got a free airport pickup with 2 non-pro sisters and a free haircut lined up for next week.

No more PCR test to enter Colombia: [URL]https://www.reportur.com/colombia/2020/11/04/viajeros-internacionales-ya-no-necesitan-pruebas-pcr-negativas/[/URL].

[QUOTE=Blakman;2499611]I matched with a chocolate girl on tinder and she said Hello. Her pics were seductive. Tall curvacious body right up my ally. After few text I got aggressive and invited her over. She was receptive to the tactic and countered with a 300 mil proposal. Now I know surfer, jjbee, slaphockey is about to have a heart attack but I said 200 mil including taxi. It was a situation that you don't find tall and natural body in accessible abundance here in Medellin. She tried to hold but I reason about lenght of stay and repetition. Anyways she agrees and mentions she can come after work. 2:30 comes and she says she going home and prepare. I do my cheapman presentation which is just as effective as the richman presentation. Women love manual effort. She says she reaches poblado but takes nearly 1 hour to arrive and text me with a strange number. Anyways I walk down to meet her and face looks familiar but no recollection. Body is hot and face looks good. Not a stunner like 8th. Body her body is damn near perfect to me. Curvacious perfect. We hug kiss. Definitely connection. Enter my apartment. Fresh cut up fruits, popcorn, and another heart attack. I bought liquor. So a glass of that and salud. I mentioned weed and her eyes lit up. But I didn't have any. Had not smoked any since I was last in Colombia. Really isn't my thing as well as licking ass. Sidenote to the surfer man. She says she has, But I am located in a family community so smoking is not allowed. I Suggest to go outside to smoke. She accepts but request to take a shower. I say she fucked before coming. My brother who is in the D.R. Thinks she was just taking advantage of hot water. We go out and smoke. Weed got me lit. I am wondering have I been scopalmine since theres so much talk. We get back, nice music and I give her a massage. Body was just utter perfection in my eyes. Tits, ass, skin color. I told her I like my dick suck good and she did not disappoint. She was skillful in every phase of the cita. She then got on top and we did a variety of positions. I then had her return to sucking my dick. She was so into teasing and so sensual. Just what I needed. I finally blew my lid. Big tony the tiger roar and she cleaned up in the bathroom then layed beside me. Deal was 200 mil 3 hrs 2 leche. She comes out and says I go now. I say no 3 hrs 2 leche. She says well you have 45 minutes. To my surprise she was counting the entertainment time..[/QUOTE]Your losing it Blakman, after a couple of hours with this girl, and two leches, you realize you had been with her before, and at a lower price. I think you were faring better with your all nighters, verus these limited time frame / leches arrangements which put to much pressure on you to blow your agreed upon loads in your alloted time frame.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2499518]According to an article published in Portafolio today, the COVID test is no longer required for entry into the Country by air.[/QUOTE]See, there is a reason if travellers from Colombia in previous 14 days are NOT allowed to enter Italy and Schengen, period, with or without quarantine, PCR tests, whatever.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2499611]I matched with a chocolate girl on tinder and she said Hello. Her pics were seductive. Tall curvacious body right up my ally. After few text I got aggressive and invited her over. She was receptive to the tactic and countered with a 300 mil proposal. Now I know surfer, jjbee, slaphockey is about to have a heart attack but I said 200 mil including taxi. It was a situation that you don't find tall and natural body in accessible abundance here in Medellin. She tried to hold but I reason about lenght of stay and repetition. Anyways she agrees and mentions she can come after work. 2:30 comes and she says she going home and prepare. I do my cheapman presentation which is just as effective as the richman presentation. Women love manual effort. She says she reaches poblado but takes nearly 1 hour to arrive and text me with a strange number. Anyways I walk down to meet her and face looks familiar but no recollection. Body is hot and face looks good. Not a stunner like 8th. Body her body is damn near perfect to me. Curvacious perfect. We hug kiss. Definitely connection. Enter my apartment. Fresh cut up fruits, popcorn, and another heart attack. I bought liquor. So a glass of that and salud. I mentioned weed and her eyes lit up. But I didn't have any. Had not smoked any since I was last in Colombia. Really isn't my thing as well as licking ass. Sidenote to the surfer man. She says she has, But I am located in a family community so smoking is not allowed. I Suggest to go outside to smoke. She accepts but request to take a shower. I say she fucked before coming. My brother who is in the D.R. Thinks she was just taking advantage of hot water. We go out and smoke. Weed got me lit. I am wondering have I been scopalmine since theres so much talk. We get back, nice music and I give her a massage. Body was just utter perfection in my eyes. Tits, ass, skin color. I told her I like my dick suck good and she did not disappoint. She was skillful in every phase of the cita. She then got on top and we did a variety of positions. I then had her return to sucking my dick. She was so into teasing and so sensual. Just what I needed. I finally blew my lid. Big tony the tiger roar and she cleaned up in the bathroom then layed beside me. Deal was 200 mil 3 hrs 2 leche. She comes out and says I go now. I say no 3 hrs 2 leche. She says well you have 45 minutes. To my surprise she was counting the entertainment time. So she used this tactic that she's about to leave to like get me excited and anxious. Which was working and she helped me to stroke off for nut 2. I walked her out to the taxi after she showered and felt like I missed her already. She was a very good time. Then it dawn on me. Lleras park in March picking up this same girl but she was bigger up top. She slim down to perfection in my eyes. And at lleras park I only paid 100 mil but it was only hour half. What a twist with much better results. We text and she ask to see me again. I said cool but not at 200mil again lol.[/QUOTE]Looks like you've found yourself a soulmate.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2499689]See, there is a reason if travellers from Colombia in previous 14 days are NOT allowed to enter Italy and Schengen, period, with or without quarantine, PCR tests, whatever.[/QUOTE]Doesn't make sense that the Government would drop a testing requirement that really doesn't cost them anything to manage like they have been doing. I have to assume they are desperate for tourists. And as far as other Countries not wanting travellers from Colombia like in Europe, the State of New York requires testing before entering the state, and testing again after three days for all whether it be travellers from within the USA or abroad. Again, it kind of defy's logic that Colombia would drop their testing requirement.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2499528]It seems to be true but I recommend travelers confirm with the minsalud website.[/QUOTE]I am a little bit skeptical about this and just got tested for a flight on COPA this coming Friday. I would suggest anyone travelling within the next few days to still get tested, and when I register with Migracion I will find out if it's still a requirement.

Booked my flight to Kenya will be on to the next once this 2 month trip is done. I think I could only get deep with a non pro. If you get too involve you have now acquired a daughter rather than a girlfriend constantly asking you for help. I think most guys don't realize the girls are happy that you are gone. Cause now its free money from you without having sex. LOL

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2499697]Looks like you've found yourself a soulmate.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2499598]I'm hoping to see something official from the government before Friday. I'd love to save the money for the test, but I'd hate to get to Medellin and be told that the test still is required.

If I can get some confirmation from the government, I'll find out if Copa will let me move up my flight by a day. I'd rather spend that time in Medellin than Miami.

Other than confirming the testing requirement change I'm all set. Bags are packed and ready.

While packing I found I had more pesos than I thought, including lots of small bills and a few coins, just over 250 k. About 10 days ago I mentioned to one of the (alleged) non-pros I still needed to arrange a ride from the airport. Five minutes later, she said her sister (who I've also been talking to) volunteered to drive both of them to pick me up. It's a free ride, although I'll pay for the tunnel, but I think they'll each end up chaperoning the other. I'll have to see them each separately if I've got any chance.

I hit up a girl I consider a semi-pro to set up a haircut. I've known her for close to 3 years, but never been with her. She was a friend of a pro regular of mine. Not sure if she's ever sold pussy or not. Almost certain she's not been discovered by the gringos since she has less than 20 friends on Facebook. She told me she wouldn't charge me for the haircut, but I figure she'll make some money on the deal. She's 21 with no kids, cute flaquita..[/QUOTE]A free haircut, Blakman would be proud. And that 250 K Pesos will easily get you laid five times including the room in El Centro, so that should keep you busy one afternoon. I'm set to arrive this weekend and am contemplating on how I am going to roll. Not sure how many street urchins I will do, and I may just shack up with one or two in my apartment while in town.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2499703]I am a little bit skeptical about this and just got tested for a flight on COPA this coming Friday. I would suggest anyone travelling within the next few days to still get tested, and when I register with Migracion I will find out if it's still a requirement.[/QUOTE]I think the test has been dropped due to all the Colombian people who were either turned away at the USA airport as they for whatever reason the test was not right. Also maybe they have complained to the Colombian government that paying $200 just to get on the plane was to much of a hardship for them.

Whatever the reason it is good for us. Now they need to get a cure for this virus so all the places can open up as it should be.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2499703]I am a little bit skeptical about this and just got tested for a flight on COPA this coming Friday. I would suggest anyone travelling within the next few days to still get tested, and when I register with Migracion I will find out if it's still a requirement.[/QUOTE]I'm also concerned about this. I'm planning on flying out Monday so I'll probably still get tested just in case I still need it. Unless someone that goes there without in the next few days and confirms that we don't need it.

Members chime in on what should be the offer. Keep in mind my 8th offered 300 mil. My last trip. So I am spoiled a bit. Anyways lets here what I should offer.

Update: She says she works as a web cam model lol

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2499702]Doesn't make sense that the Government would drop a testing requirement that really doesn't cost them anything to manage like they have been doing. I have to assume they are desperate for tourists.[/QUOTE]Seen from another standpoint: compare all that with the requirements and procedure for travellers wishing to enter most developed Asian countries, beginning with PRC, Taiwan, Singapore, Korea, Japan, etc. Then wonder: where COVID is under control? Where is it more likely to disappear sooner? Ultimately: where would you feel safer? There is always a reason behind physical phenomena, and we are responsible for our future.

Well it sounds pretty normal to me. Normally I get down right away. That goes for escorts here in the US. Except for one chick in Cartegena I've never found anyone that I really want to hang around with for any life of time after or before. Most of them just want to get get it over with and get out of there, It's work who wants to work? If you can get more money out of it they're going to hang out.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2499611]I matched with a chocolate girl on tinder and she said Hello. Her pics were seductive. Tall curvacious body right up my ally. After few text I got aggressive and invited her over. She was receptive to the tactic and countered with a 300 mil proposal. Now I know surfer, jjbee, slaphockey is about to have a heart attack but I said 200 mil including taxi. It was a situation that you don't find tall and natural body in accessible abundance here in Medellin. She tried to hold but I reason about lenght of stay and repetition. Anyways she agrees and mentions she can come after work. 2:30 comes and she says she going home and prepare. I do my cheapman presentation which is just as effective as the richman presentation. Women love manual effort. She says she reaches poblado but takes nearly 1 hour to arrive and text me with a strange number. Anyways I walk down to meet her and face looks familiar but no recollection. Body is hot and face looks good. Not a stunner like 8th. Body her body is damn near perfect to me. Curvacious perfect. We hug kiss. Definitely connection. Enter my apartment. Fresh cut up fruits, popcorn, and another heart attack. I bought liquor. So a glass of that and salud. I mentioned weed and her eyes lit up. But I didn't have any. Had not smoked any since I was last in Colombia. Really isn't my thing as well as licking ass. Sidenote to the surfer man. She says she has, But I am located in a family community so smoking is not allowed. I Suggest to go outside to smoke. She accepts but request to take a shower. I say she fucked before coming. My brother who is in the D.R. Thinks she was just taking advantage of hot water. We go out and smoke. Weed got me lit. I am wondering have I been scopalmine since theres so much talk. We get back, nice music and I give her a massage. Body was just utter perfection in my eyes. Tits, ass, skin color. I told her I like my dick suck good and she did not disappoint. She was skillful in every phase of the cita. She then got on top and we did a variety of positions. I then had her return to sucking my dick. She was so into teasing and so sensual. Just what I needed. I finally blew my lid. Big tony the tiger roar and she cleaned up in the bathroom then layed beside me. Deal was 200 mil 3 hrs 2 leche. She comes out and says I go now. I say no 3 hrs 2 leche. She says well you have 45 minutes. To my surprise she was counting the entertainment time. So she used this tactic that she's about to leave to like get me excited and anxious. Which was working and she helped me to stroke off for nut 2. I walked her out to the taxi after she showered and felt like I missed her already. She was a very good time. Then it dawn on me. Lleras park in March picking up this same girl but she was bigger up top. She slim down to perfection in my eyes. And at lleras park I only paid 100 mil but it was only hour half. What a twist with much better results. We text and she ask to see me again. I said cool but not at 200mil again lol.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2499528]It seems to be true but I recommend travelers confirm with the minsalud website.[/QUOTE]Here's the link to the notice on the minsalud website:

[URL]https://www.minsalud.gov.co/Paginas/Gobierno-Nacional-elimina-requisito-de-prueba-covid-19-a-viajeros-hacia-Colombia.aspx[/URL]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2499703]I am a little bit skeptical about this and just got tested for a flight on COPA this coming Friday. I would suggest anyone travelling within the next few days to still get tested, and when I register with Migracion I will find out if it's still a requirement.[/QUOTE]Please keep us updated. I have flight on Copa in 2 weeks.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2499703]I am a little bit skeptical about this and just got tested for a flight on COPA this coming Friday. I would suggest anyone travelling within the next few days to still get tested, and when I register with Migracion I will find out if it's still a requirement.[/QUOTE]This is from the AA site that shows entry requirements for each country.

No more PCR Test as of Nov 5.

Yess!

Not sure if their ducks are in a row. My brother just went through Miami Security and they required the PCR Test still. Luckily he had it as he got tested 2 days ago I'm Miami. He's flying to Bogota first. I'll update on his customs experience. I'm heading down Tuesday. Hope they have one hand talking to the other by then. I'll keep you posted.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2499611]Fresh cut up fruits, popcorn, and another heart attack. I bought liquor. [/QUOTE]Right in front of our eyes <3

[QUOTE=Blakman;2499722]Members chime in on what should be the offer. Keep in mind my 8th offered 300 mil. My last trip. So I am spoiled a bit. Anyways lets here what I should offer.

Update: She says she works as a web cam model lol[/QUOTE]Webcam model? Here we go. Scotiabank allows 900.000 withdrawals, up to 4.500.000

So... Double date? I think Piccolo's has 2-for-1 pizzas on Wednesdays!

[QUOTE=Balboa;2499758]This is from the AA site that shows entry requirements for each country.

No more PCR Test as of Nov 5.

Yess![/QUOTE]I just looked at the travel requirements for my Delta flight which was updated today and it no longer has any test requirements. It's said you only have to register on the Colombia website within 24 hrs prior to arrival.

[QUOTE=BootyBandit84;2499784]I just looked at the travel requirements for my Delta flight which was updated today and it no longer has any test requirements. It's said you only have to register on the Colombia website within 24 hrs prior to arrival.[/QUOTE]It is official. It is listed on the US Embassy in Colombia website. NO Covid test required as of today. Nov. 5.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2499722]Members chime in on what should be the offer. Keep in mind my 8th offered 300 mil. My last trip. So I am spoiled a bit. Anyways lets here what I should offer.

Update: She says she works as a web cam model lol[/QUOTE]I think your making an error in even contemplating going with this one for a week just yet. You said you have only been with her once a while back and a few hours a couple of days ago.

Do a test run of a TLN with her first and see how it goes. She may snore so loudly you won't be able to sleep with her, or vice-versa, or she may object to early morning wood, and that's a big one for me. If they don't like it at sunrise before breakfast, well that doesn't work for me at all. She also may not be domesticated and play house if that's what your looking for.

This one may be out of your league, and insulted easily by a barrage of lowball offer (s) and rounds and rounds of negotiations.

[QUOTE=Kelso1;2499711]I think the test has been dropped due to all the Colombian people who were either turned away at the USA airport as they for whatever reason the test was not right. Also maybe they have complained to the Colombian government that paying $200 just to get on the plane was to much of a hardship for them.

Whatever the reason it is good for us. Now they need to get a cure for this virus so all the places can open up as it should be.[/QUOTE]I don't think the cost of the test is a hardship for any Colombian in the USA wanting to return to Colombia, as generally only well off Colombians can obtain visas for travel to the USA to begin with. I think the dropping of the test requirement was to help stimulate the economy.

[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2499770]Not sure if their ducks are in a row. My brother just went through Miami Security and they required the PCR Test still. Luckily he had it as he got tested 2 days ago I'm Miami. He's flying to Bogota first. I'll update on his customs experience. I'm heading down Tuesday. Hope they have one hand talking to the other by then. I'll keep you posted.[/QUOTE]Miami security?

They don't require PCR tests.
You just have to make it thru the metal detector with them. Lol.

Well after yesterday successful run with tinder. I decided to do a hasty run with another tinder. Ironically me and her had a bad exchange the last time I came to colonbia and I decline to entertain her. She appeared nice through our exchange but the signs was there when she demanded I come out to pay for the cab. She's the only girl that I have had to personally pay the cab man. Anyways I get to the cab and theres no display of affection. Totally platonic. Text my brother tell him this is not good. She did not look worth my 150 offer and I will not do it again for the rest of my trip unless I have had a lowball experience. I booked a flight to Kenya and so better save my money for girls wirh awrsome body. Her dancing was good. But She was texting like crazy. More bad signs. Call her into the bedroom and she just takes off her clothes. No finest, no sexy lingerie, belly damage. Total bust. Then she ask to suck my cock with a condom. ***** I told you I like a girl who suck it til I leche. Does that sound like using a condom. The only thing she did good was touch my sensitive spot good. After dumb shit like you didn't cum you didn't cum, I thought of all kinds of shit to cum. Then I basically kicked her out. Didn't even wait for a second nut. Paola mosquera or some shit. Big titty chocolate girl yuk. She probably a centro hoe lol surfer

She said 1600000. I said 800000. I mention the 8th did it for 300000. She then said 1000000. I learn from the 8th. They don't stick to the commitment. Couple days they are going to be gone. Some excuse. So low balling is good. So things balance out when she goes missing a few days. She wants a tv. She's l going to cost me food and maybr weed. My only concern is there other drugs involved. She made it a point to tell me just because she smokes weed she's not a drug girl. That statement sorta means she is. I am examining this arrangement at this point. Studying her response. But thanks for the imput. I did mention to her has you suggested to do a total night test run.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2499788]I think your making an error in even contemplating going with this one for a week just yet. You said you have only been with her once a while back and a few hours a couple of days ago.

Do a test run of a TLN with her first and see how it goes. She may snore so loudly you won't be able to sleep with her, or vice-versa, or she may object to early morning wood, and that's a big one for me. If they don't like it at sunrise before breakfast, well that doesn't work for me at all. She also may not be domesticated and play house if that's what your looking for.

This one may be out of your league, and insulted easily by a barrage of lowball offer (s) and rounds and rounds of negotiations.[/QUOTE].

Great choice really impressed enjoy buddy.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2499611]I matched with a chocolate girl on tinder and she said Hello. Her pics were seductive. Tall curvacious body right up my ally. After few text I got aggressive and invited her over. She was receptive to the tactic and countered with a 300 mil proposal. Now I know surfer, jjbee, slaphockey is about to have a heart attack but I said 200 mil including taxi. It was a situation that you don't find tall and natural body in accessible abundance here in Medellin. She tried to hold but I reason about lenght of stay and repetition. Anyways she agrees and mentions she can come after work. 2:30 comes and she says she going home and prepare. I do my cheapman presentation which is just as effective as the richman presentation. Women love manual effort. She says she reaches poblado but takes nearly 1 hour to arrive and text me with a strange number. Anyways I walk down to meet her and face looks familiar but no recollection. Body is hot and face looks good. Not a stunner like 8th. Body her body is damn near perfect to me. Curvacious perfect. We hug kiss. Definitely connection. Enter my apartment. Fresh cut up fruits, popcorn, and another heart attack. I bought liquor. So a glass of that and salud. I mentioned weed and her eyes lit up. But I didn't have any. Had not smoked any since I was last in Colombia. Really isn't my thing as well as licking ass. Sidenote to the surfer man. She says she has, But I am located in a family community so smoking is not allowed. I Suggest to go outside to smoke. She accepts but request to take a shower. I say she fucked before coming. My brother who is in the D.R. Thinks she was just taking advantage of hot water. We go out and smoke. Weed got me lit. I am wondering have I been scopalmine since theres so much talk. We get back, nice music and I give her a massage. Body was just utter perfection in my eyes. Tits, ass, skin color. I told her I like my dick suck good and she did not disappoint. She was skillful in every phase of the cita. She then got on top and we did a variety of positions. I then had her return to sucking my dick. She was so into teasing and so sensual. Just what I needed. I finally blew my lid. Big tony the tiger roar and she cleaned up in the bathroom then layed beside me. Deal was 200 mil 3 hrs 2 leche. She comes out and says I go now. I say no 3 hrs 2 leche. She says well you have 45 minutes. To my surprise she was counting the entertainment time. So she used this tactic that she's about to leave to like get me excited and anxious. Which was working and she helped me to stroke off for nut 2. I walked her out to the taxi after she showered and felt like I missed her already. She was a very good time. Then it dawn on me. Lleras park in March picking up this same girl but she was bigger up top. She slim down to perfection in my eyes. And at lleras park I only paid 100 mil but it was only hour half. What a twist with much better results. We text and she ask to see me again. I said cool but not at 200mil again lol.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blakman;2499799]Well after yesterday successful run with tinder. I decided to do a hasty run with another tinder. Ironically me and her had a bad exchange the last time I came to colonbia and I decline to entertain her. She appeared nice through our exchange but the signs was there when she demanded I come out to pay for the cab. She's the only girl that I have had to personally pay the cab man. Anyways I get to the cab and theres no display of affection. Totally platonic. Text my brother tell him this is not good. She did not look worth my 150 offer and I will not do it again for the rest of my trip unless I have had a lowball experience. I booked a flight to Kenya and so better save my money for girls wirh awrsome body. Her dancing was good. But She was texting like crazy. More bad signs. Call her into the bedroom and she just takes off her clothes. No finest, no sexy lingerie, belly damage. Total bust. Then she ask to suck my cock with a condom. ***** I told you I like a girl who suck it til I leche. Does that sound like using a condom. The only thing she did good was touch my sensitive spot good. After dumb shit like you didn't cum you didn't cum, I thought of all kinds of shit to cum. Then I basically kicked her out. Didn't even wait for a second nut. Paola mosquera or some shit. Big titty chocolate girl yuk. She probably a centro hoe lol surfer[/QUOTE]Well lets look at what happened to you by the numbers. You paid 150 K plus say 10 k for the taxi so you spent 160 K. And how much time did you spend dicking around with a Tinder Chica, at least four hours of your time.

So you mention a "centro WG". With 160 K you could of easily done 3-4 WG in El Centro including the cost of the room. And the beauty of El Centro is that if you have a bad experience, you can just cut them loose, and 15 minutes later have another one up in the room. I've had some experiences where I couldn't finish, the Chica was a bad lay, or other issues, so when that has occurred, I just cut them loose, step outside, and grab another one.

I know you feel squeamish about El Centro, but it can be like shooting fish in a barrel. And don't get me wrong, it's always better to bang Chicas in your own place, yet it seems as though a lot of the short time encounters of a few hours can be problematic, versus a TLN or longer arrangements which seem to work out better. I don't have anyone in my place unless it's at least for a day or more and what's nice about El Centro is you can show up, blow a load, and be gone very quickly.

You lose me on the rhetoric most times. But you are an expert mathmetician. So tell me 7 days how much should she get.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2499779]Right in front of our eyes <3

Webcam model? Here we go. Scotiabank allows 900.000 withdrawals, up to 4.500.000

So... Double date? I think Piccolo's has 2-for-1 pizzas on Wednesdays![/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Balboa;2499795]Miami security?

They don't require PCR tests.
You just have to make it thru the metal detector with them. Lol.[/QUOTE]Miami airport operators need to follow the rules of the country of destination. If Colombia requires a test, they will ask for the test in Miami, before you jump on the airplane. They probably still thinks a test is necessary, because officially it is, unless the Colombian government changes its website.

Fake news.

[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2499770]Not sure if their ducks are in a row. My brother just went through Miami Security and they required the PCR Test still. Luckily he had it as he got tested 2 days ago I'm Miami. He's flying to Bogota first. I'll update on his customs experience. I'm heading down Tuesday. Hope they have one hand talking to the other by then. I'll keep you posted.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blakman;2499936]You lose me on the rhetoric most times. But you are an expert mathmetician. So tell me 7 days how much should she get..[/QUOTE]7 days give her the million, but make some rules. She gets paid on a sliding scale. The first day she earns 50 k, second day 100, third day 150 k. Each day after 150 k and if she finishes the week 100 k extra.

Anytime she leaves for more than 6 hours, it resets the scale.

Members is the price too high, too low, or just right for a nice body chica to stay a week.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2499936]You lose me on the rhetoric most times. But you are an expert mathmetician. So tell me 7 days how much should she get.

.[/QUOTE].

Hey guys,

I'm heading down to Colombia this week and was wondering if I can get a prepaid SIM card for my old unlocked Samsung phone. I would rather leave my actual phone in the apartment in case I get pickpocketed or robed. It's only happed to me once in Mexico but better safe than sorry. I just want to have internet availability without having to hunt free WiFi. Any help is always appreciated!

[QUOTE=Blakman;2499964]Members is the price too high, too low, or just right for a nice body chica to stay a week.

.[/QUOTE]Depends on some things. Is she consistently friendly, attentive, and affectionate? Phone addict? What are her known boundaries? Supporting kids? A week is a long time with a stranger. Always start with a low ball offer, 1/2 now other 1/2 later. Lock everything down and hide the large kitchen knives.

Just filled out the registration form and got confirmation from Migracion. No COVID test required in filling out the form, albeit there was a question as to whether I had been tested which I had.

According to the confirmation E mail, all information correct, except it says I'm arriving at San Andres Island, and my nationality is Vietnamese. Oh well, at least they got my Passport number, name, DOB, and flight information correct, and yes I'm a gringo, so I may get a funny look when I arrive in Medellin.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2500007] Lock everything down and hide the large kitchen knives.[/QUOTE]If there is no trust, one option is to pay per day at the end of every day. Also consider using Windows bit locker tool to encrypt the hard drive. So if thieves steal the laptop They cannot access the information on the hard drive.

Don't leave any small butter knives In plain view. (Another bad joke)

I have had 2 stay the night and she fit the same criteria. Both went very well. They were Affectionate, sexual, freaky, sensual and willing to be domestic. She has the best body of the 3 with no kids and willing to do 3 somes. I sense the girls she chooses will be a side hustle for her. Right now we are at 1,000,000. Food and liquor.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2500007]Depends on some things. Is she consistently friendly, attentive, and affectionate? Phone addict? What are her known boundaries? Supporting kids? A week is a long time with a stranger. Always start with a low ball offer, 1/2 now other 1/2 later. Lock everything down and hide the large kitchen knives.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Blakman;2499964]Members is the price too high, too low, or just right for a nice body chica to stay a week..[/QUOTE]Price is okay, but your foolish to lock in with out a few TLN's under your belt beforehand.

If she is a total Godess, 150K a day is more than fair, but she better be all in, and I will leave that to your imagination.

Perhaps tell her you want a trial run and after a day or so if it isn't working out you will give her 150K for each day she was there.

And who knows, maybe she stays with you a few days, takes a day off you don't have to pay her for, and then you can hit some casa's, have a Tinder Chica over, or if you have the balls, venture down to El Centro to sample a real hoe!

I told her I won't pay til the end. But I guarantee sges going to ask for money about the 3rd day LOL. Then I pay her according to per day

[QUOTE=Frank11;2500027]If there is no trust, one option is to pay per day at the end of every day. Also consider using Windows bit locker tool to encrypt the hard drive. So if thieves steal the laptop They cannot access the information on the hard drive.

Don't leave any small butter knives In plain view. (Another bad joke)[/QUOTE].

Thats a very thoughtful plan. I would never have thought you could come up with this considering the dumpster thingie LOL. But she's not getting any money til the end if it goes down. She says she does web cam for 5 hour in the morning. So should that affect the pricing?

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2499961]7 days give her the million, but make some rules. She gets paid on a sliding scale. The first day she earns 50 k, second day 100, third day 150 k. Each day after 150 k and if she finishes the week 100 k extra.

Anytime she leaves for more than 6 hours, it resets the scale.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Blakman;2500029]I have had 2 stay the night and she fit the same criteria. Both went very well. They were Affectionate, sexual, freaky, sensual and willing to be domestic. She has the best body of the 3 with no kids and willing to do 3 somes. I sense the girls she chooses will be a side hustle for her. Right now we are at 1,000,000. Food and liquor.

.[/QUOTE]I know it sounds funny but, I speak from experience. There was no encounter, but something occurred with 2 girls in my place that lead me to this strategy of hiding the large kitchen knives. I still think it is prudent. But, understand you are vulnerable in many ways. These include when you are out-numbered, asleep, or catch someone in the act of stealing or other sudden fearful, adrenaline rush moment.

What's up fellas. My home girl in Medellin wanted me to drop her info in here. If you need someone to translate with the girls. Run errands for you. Or simply clean the apartment she's a jack of all trades. Met her in Ctg and we've been cool ever since. Just trying to look out for her. Her name is Alexandria +57 350xxxx026. Hit her up and tell her Eli sent ya. Just throw her a couple pesos.

[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2499948]Miami airport operators need to follow the rules of the country of destination. If Colombia requires a test, they will ask for the test in Miami, before you jump on the airplane. They probably still thinks a test is necessary, because officially it is, unless the Colombian government changes its website.[/QUOTE]Not Miami Security though, as the poster originally stated.

They could care less where you're going.

I only worked for airlines for 30 years, LOL.

I dont really care to debate this though.
Doesnt matter.
Colombia is open!
No 96 hour Test result needed!

Hallelujah! Lol 🤩
SJobs can finally return!
Oh yeah, almost forgot, he doesn’t exist! Lol. 😅

[QUOTE=BootyBandit84;2499979]Hey guys,

I'm heading down to Colombia this week and was wondering if I can get a prepaid SIM card for my old unlocked Samsung phone. I would rather leave my actual phone in the apartment in case I get pickpocketed or robed. It's only happed to me once in Mexico but better safe than sorry. I just want to have internet availability without having to hunt free WiFi. Any help is always appreciated![/QUOTE]Yes, you can get a sim card that fits your phone at any of the carriers' stores. I would not buy a card from a street vendor or a little store, there's a chance it would be a stolen card.

In Cali go to the Official fancy Claro store. They will give you sin card. Then go to grocery store big chain or family-owned Whichever is closest. AsK the cashier for a cell phone recharge. They will ask for your number and the recharge amount. Then waits a minute until the recharge arrives with SMS confirmation. Then open the browser type Claro and hopefully you can figure out how to navigate to the Claro store. There you can buy a package like 3000 for SMS and Internet and phone call minutes for 3 days. Purchase package. They have all sorts of packageS. Then wait 5 minutes and you will receive confirmation your packages activated. If it is different in med than in Cali someone can tell you about it here on the forUm.

It's better to recharge at the grocery store than with a credit card. Because the cell phone may actually save your credit card for purchases in the future. So someone steals your phone they can recharge it if the card is saved to the account. Where the puck is the delete credit card button?

[QUOTE=Blakman;2500032]Thats a very thoughtful plan. I would never have thought you could come up with this considering the dumpster thingie LOL. But she's not getting any money til the end if it goes down. She says she does web cam for 5 hour in the morning. So should that affect the pricing?.[/QUOTE]Of course don't pay until the end, but let her know the pay schedule. That will entice her to at least stay 4 days.

Depends on how long she's gone to webcam and if it fucks with your schedule.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2500032]She says she does web cam for 5 hour in the morning. So should that affect the pricing?
[/QUOTE]5 hours is almost an entire 8 hour work day. Maybe she would have to reveal how much money she's making during those 5 hours in order to resume the negotiation. Plus, it would suck if she is tired or tired from masturbating through WebCam after 5 hours.

Personally sounds like a turnoff in the morning I'd like to be by the window or garden or balcony having some breakfast with the girl.

Well, if she insists on running her own business 5 hours every day that seems like an opportunity to ask for discount.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2500051]I know it sounds funny but, I speak from experience. There was no encounter, but something occurred with 2 girls in my place that lead me to this strategy of hiding the large kitchen knives. I still think it is prudent. But, understand you are vulnerable in many ways. These include when you are out-numbered, asleep, or catch someone in the act of stealing or other sudden fearful, adrenaline rush moment.[/QUOTE]Yeah this let's get together for 2 weeks is better with girls a man has known for a long time and there is some good level of trust. Will now I bet everyone is wondering what happened that resulted in hiding the knives.

I do 20 minutes hiit, 2 mile walk, and some resistant training, so as long as I get my morning fuck. I would be good. The hold up now is that she says she doesn't suck pussy. But besides 2 girls kissing, that's the other stimulating part that kinda brings the value down.

[QUOTE=Frank11;2500085]5 hours is almost an entire 8 hour work day. Maybe she would have to reveal how much money she's making during those 5 hours in order to resume the negotiation. Plus, it would suck if she is tired or tired from masturbating through WebCam after 5 hours.

Personally sounds like a turnoff in the morning I'd like to be by the window or garden or balcony having some breakfast with the girl.

Well, if she insists on running her own business 5 hours every day that seems like an opportunity to ask for discount.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Balboa;2500064]I only worked for airlines for 30 years, LOL.[/QUOTE]Man! You must have a ton of peanuts and pretzels.

Surfer how dare you doubt I have balls. I actually ventured down to centro today. Withstood the pouring rain and guess what fuck my first girl in centro. When I nutted I could hear you surfer saying that a boy. I laughed all the way home thinking how you would be so proud. And say See I told you so. It was rather interesting. Got to go to 3 strip clubs. I damn near didn't want to leave but without my viagra. My super powers was all gone. It was loaded with girls. Dumpsters, hard knocks, hood girls, youngies, and some looking clean girls. The process was surprisingly quick. I said how much. She said 30. I almost freaked out. Then went up to the hotel and it was 5 mil. Damn I am in heaven. Got in the room. Tight but same size as new life. Clean. Ok lets go. I didn't take a tablet so I was just blakman not superman. I did the best I could then told her jerk me off which was a very skillful job. Did not hurt my pocket at all. The girl felt warm so now I am worried about covid. Made up cards so passed a couple around. So surfer you promised 2nd chick is on you LOL

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2500030]Price is okay, but your foolish to lock in with out a few TLN's under your belt beforehand.

If she is a total Godess, 150K a day is more than fair, but she better be all in, and I will leave that to your imagination.

Perhaps tell her you want a trial run and after a day or so if it isn't working out you will give her 150K for each day she was there.

And who knows, maybe she stays with you a few days, takes a day off you don't have to pay her for, and then you can hit some casa's, have a Tinder Chica over, or if you have the balls, venture down to El Centro to sample a real hoe![/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Blakman;2500107]Surfer how dare you doubt I have balls. I actually ventured down to centro today. Withstood the pouring rain and guess what fuck my first girl in centro. When I nutted I could hear you surfer saying that a boy. I laughed all the way home thinking how you would be so proud. And say See I told you so. It was rather interesting. Got to go to 3 strip clubs. I damn near didn't want to leave but without my viagra. My super powers was all gone. It was loaded with girls. Dumpsters, hard knocks, hood girls, youngies, and some looking clean girls. The process was surprisingly quick. I said how much. She said 30. I almost freaked out. Then went up to the hotel and it was 5 mil. Damn I am in heaven. Got in the room. Tight but same size as new life. Clean. Ok lets go. I didn't take a tablet so I was just blakman not superman. I did the best I could then told her jerk me off which was a very skillful job. Did not hurt my pocket at all. The girl felt warm so now I am worried about covid. Made up cards so passed a couple around. So surfer you promised 2nd chick is on you LOL.[/QUOTE]You owe me Blakman, if I hadn't of egged you on, you wouldn't of pulled the trigger and lost your El Centro virginity. And the shock of being quoted 30 K and how quick you can pull the trigger there was an eye opener, but I do have to ding you in that you could of easily offered 25 K to your victim and she would of accepted without batting an eye.

You've finally come to your senses, and I can easily see you becoming a member of the El Centro street rats.

[QUOTE=Frank11;2500085]5 hours is almost an entire 8 hour work day. Maybe she would have to reveal how much money she's making during those 5 hours in order to resume the negotiation. Plus, it would suck if she is tired or tired from masturbating through WebCam after 5 hours.

Personally sounds like a turnoff in the morning I'd like to be by the window or garden or balcony having some breakfast with the girl.

Well, if she insists on running her own business 5 hours every day that seems like an opportunity to ask for discount.[/QUOTE]What if the guy is a day trader or works remotely? If he's earning money while the girl is in the apartment, should he be required to tell her how much he earns to decide whether or not he should pay more?

How do you figure that exactly? Using my friend as an example, she makes half her money or more when she's not even on webcam. Guys subscribe to her manyvids or OnlyFans account, they buy videos or photo sets, or send offline tips. Some send her gifts from her Amazon wishlist. Some of the gifts cost several hundred dollars. If some guy buys her an $800 DSLR camera, is she required to fuck someone else for 3 days for free?

Some of the stuff you post makes no sense. This post falls well below the "makes no sense" threshold.

Should he also pay less because she has no kids? She doesn't have to pay a babysitter, or feed anyone else? If she's ugly and has a disgusting body he should pay more because she can't earn money? And the perfect 10 should get paid the least because she obviously makes more money?

The deal you negotiate with a girl is the price you agree on. It's within the range of how much you're willing to pay and how little she will accept. Period. Nothing more.

How much she earns affects the price she's willing to accept. How much you earn might affect how much you're willing to pay. But if you're trying to run a balance sheet on every girl, you're going to die a virgin.

[QUOTE=Frank11;2500074]In Cali go to the Official fancy Claro store. They will give you sin card. Then go to grocery store big chain or family-owned Whichever is closest. AsK the cashier for a cell phone recharge. ...[/QUOTE]In Medellin, the cashiers at Exito do not sell recharges. I don't know about the other chain stores. You can buy the whole plan at the carrier's store when you get the sim card. You can also buy minutes at Gana stores or sidewalk vendors.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2500119]In Medellin, the cashiers at Exito do not sell recharges. I don't know about the other chain stores. You can buy the whole plan at the carrier's store when you get the sim card. You can also buy minutes at Gana stores or sidewalk vendors.[/QUOTE]They do sell recharge in the area where they do sell phones. Just near the cash desks. They do not sell plans, just recharges. If you want a data plan you need to cross the road, and just after the bridge there a shop to make bets that sells plan and sim cards. You cross the road and you go right. It's just 5 minutes walk from exito.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2500031]I told her I won't pay til the end. But I guarantee sges going to ask for money about the 3rd day LOL. Then I pay her according to per day.[/QUOTE]You pay her every day, and if you are not happy with her, you just cut the deal. If you are still with her till the end, you give her something more, because if she only stays with you 1 day, she a saint.

As of November, how safe is Centro / Botero area compared to Santa Fe (la zona) area in Bogota? Have the tourist police returned to Botero?

JjBee62 lol man. I don't know. I guess you're right.

I was just thinking like if some guy brings a girl from Europe to Colombia for a 2 week vacation. In that case it would be expensive maybe the girl gets 1500 Euros plus her plane ticket plus the food and accommodation. So like the guy made a big investment so from that point of view it's not cool if the girl spends 5 hours every day on WebCam. That is kind of what I was trying to say.

But If she is a WebCam professional she cant walk out on her job so I think she'd say something like "okay I have to do my job so I'll stay 3 weeks instead of 2." Sounds like a good deal to me.

It matters a little bit maybe because she is working on the time the customer supposedly bought from her. So yeah as a customer I would be curious to know what exactly she is doing? Like... Do you really have to do that or not? 5 hours a day is a lot. If she is loaded maybe buy me lunch on Sunday.

Full disclosure.

[QUOTE=Frank11;2500161]JjBee62 lol man. I don't know. I guess you're right.

I was just thinking like if some guy brings a girl from Europe to Colombia for a 2 week vacation. In that case it would be expensive maybe the girl gets 1500 Euros plus her plane ticket plus the food and accommodation. So like the guy made a big investment so from that point of view it's not cool if the girl spends 5 hours every day on WebCam. That is kind of what I was trying to say.

But If she is a WebCam professional she cant walk out on her job so I think she'd say something like "okay I have to do my job so I'll stay 3 weeks instead of 2." Sounds like a good deal to me.

It matters a little bit maybe because she is working on the time the customer supposedly bought from her. So yeah as a customer I would be curious to know what exactly she is doing? Like... Do you really have to do that or not? 5 hours a day is a lot. If she is loaded maybe buy me lunch on Sunday.

Full disclosure.[/QUOTE]Sorry, this make no sense, why would you want to bring a girl to Colombia. It would be expensive and I real doubt a girl from Europe would like Colombia. Europe is cool, Sophisticated, fun and great food. MDE has some decent girls, but is missing many of the I intangibles that Europe has to offer.

[QUOTE=BootyBandit84;2499784]I just looked at the travel requirements for my Delta flight which was updated today and it no longer has any test requirements. It's said you only have to register on the Colombia website within 24 hrs prior to arrival.[/QUOTE]That's interesting, because on my Delta online booking the requirement still appears prominently.

[QUOTE=Frank11;2500161]JjBee62 lol man. I don't know. I guess you're right.

I was just thinking like if some guy brings a girl from Europe to Colombia for a 2 week vacation. In that case it would be expensive maybe the girl gets 1500 Euros plus her plane ticket plus the food and accommodation. So like the guy made a big investment so from that point of view it's not cool if the girl spends 5 hours every day on WebCam. That is kind of what I was trying to say.

But If she is a WebCam professional she cant walk out on her job so I think she'd say something like "okay I have to do my job so I'll stay 3 weeks instead of 2." Sounds like a good deal to me.

It matters a little bit maybe because she is working on the time the customer supposedly bought from her. So yeah as a customer I would be curious to know what exactly she is doing? Like... Do you really have to do that or not? 5 hours a day is a lot. If she is loaded maybe buy me lunch on Sunday.

Full disclosure.[/QUOTE]You lost me again. Why would anyone hire a hooker in Europe and then pay to take her to Colombia? The round trip ticket alone is probably the equivalent of fucking 50 casa girls. Then there's food, plus paying her European rates. There's a saying: Why would you take sand to the beach?

If a girl has a regular job and she needs to leave for that job there's nothing wrong with that, if it's part of the negotiations. What her job is doesn't matter. You seem to be having problems with this part and it's incredibly simple.

What the girl does, when she isn't doing what you pay her for is none of your fucking business. If you want to know how much she earns or want to make decisions about how she spends her time away from you, then you need to marry her.

How is 5 hours a day a lot? When I was the age most of these girls are, 5 hours wasn't even halfway through my day. Any day when I only worked 12 hours seemed like a holiday. 5 hours a day is about normal for a webcam model. If she was working in a retail store, she would be away 8-10 hours.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2499964]Members is the price too high, too low, or just right for a nice body chica to stay a week..[/QUOTE]Are you flying her from Medellin to USA and ask her to stay a week or you fly to Medellin and ask her to stay a week with you?

[QUOTE=OmahaGreg;2500180]That's interesting, because on my Delta online booking the requirement still appears prominently.[/QUOTE]To be clear it still has it on my original paperwork that I printed from a few weeks ago but when I went to the flight requirements on the delta website it no longer had it on there. I'm flying out in a couple days and I won't be taking the test so I'll find out what is accurate really soon haha. I'm checking in as soon as I can and if it pops up when I try to get my boarding pass then I'll go do a rapid test and not risk it.

I think I smell a new Centro rat. Mark my words, you will see the routine of extended negotiations over six figure fees and long waits for taxi arrivals in a different light. A little voice in the back of your head will say "I just paid 10 times for the same nut I could have had in Centro. The makeup and fancy clothes are nice. I usually compromise with a mileroticos apt or Laureles casa visit.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2500107]Surfer how dare you doubt I have balls. I actually ventured down to centro today. Withstood the pouring rain and guess what fuck my first girl in centro. When I nutted I could hear you surfer saying that a boy. I laughed all the way home thinking how you would be so proud. And say See I told you so. It was rather interesting. Got to go to 3 strip clubs. I damn near didn't want to leave but without my viagra. My super powers was all gone. It was loaded with girls. Dumpsters, hard knocks, hood girls, youngies, and some looking clean girls. The process was surprisingly quick. I said how much. She said 30. I almost freaked out. Then went up to the hotel and it was 5 mil. Damn I am in heaven. Got in the room. Tight but same size as new life. Clean. Ok lets go. I didn't take a tablet so I was just blakman not superman. I did the best I could then told her jerk me off which was a very skillful job. Did not hurt my pocket at all. The girl felt warm so now I am worried about covid. Made up cards so passed a couple around. So surfer you promised 2nd chick is on you LOL.[/QUOTE]

When dealing with hooker, puta, working girl, even normal girls frankly, I never pry into their lives. My only interest is your sex performance and you are reliable and somewhat punctual. Other interest is having test negative and is it okay to have unprotected sex since the stay is 8 days. She told me she did Web cam. I really do not know if its true. I do not care. If she performs the next 8 days like she did the day we met, then I will be satisfied. This way when I go back to the states I am not obligated when she comes begging for money. It was business without emotions. Hey Did you notice I slipped in 8 days. I change the arrangement to 8 days 1,000,000 which I still think is too much LOL.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2500213]You lost me again. Why would anyone hire a hooker in Europe and then pay to take her to Colombia? The round trip ticket alone is probably the equivalent of fucking 50 casa girls. Then there's food, plus paying her European rates. There's a saying: Why would you take sand to the beach?

If a girl has a regular job and she needs to leave for that job there's nothing wrong with that, if it's part of the negotiations. What her job is doesn't matter. You seem to be having problems with this part and it's incredibly simple.

What the girl does, when she isn't doing what you pay her for is none of your fucking business. If you want to know how much she earns or want to make decisions about how she spends her time away from you, then you need to marry her.

How is 5 hours a day a lot? When I was the age most of these girls are, 5 hours wasn't even halfway through my day. Any day when I only worked 12 hours seemed like a holiday. 5 hours a day is about normal for a webcam model. If she was working in a retail store, she would be away 8-10 hours.[/QUOTE].

Man lleras park is basically back to normal operation. The clubs are open, the girls are out there. I went to Lleras park night club and they had some nice second tier girls. Great music is played there.

Its free. Then went over to Gusto and they had some 1st tier girls along with a few silicona girls. I enjoyed gusto it was 10 mil charge and they didn't force you into buying a drink. I got the numbers of 3 beauties and hopefully I can follow up for a much lower price. One girl said $200 for all night. I told her way too much. Another girl ask me to buy a drink. I said maybe when we go out. But yes I would say lleras park is back but honestly I would think its just a matter of time this country goes on lock down again following same trend of other countries. One good thing is majority wear there mask. But in the nightclubs. Defenitely no mask. But theres a temperature check. Chicks in the park asking from 300 mil to 150 mil.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2500262]When dealing with hooker, puta, working girl, even normal girls frankly, I never pry into their lives. My only interest is your sex performance and you are reliable and somewhat punctual. Other interest is having test negative and is it okay to have unprotected sex since the stay is 8 days. She told me she did Web cam. I really do not know if its true. I do not care. If she performs the next 8 days like she did the day we met, then I will be satisfied. This way when I go back to the states I am not obligated when she comes begging for money. It was business without emotions. Hey Did you notice I slipped in 8 days. I change the arrangement to 8 days 1,000,000 which I still think is too much LOL..[/QUOTE]And that's the way it should be. If you're hiring someone to unclog your drain, does it really matter what his hobbies are, and how many kids he has? He does the work, you pay the bill.

I noticed 8 days, but I'm taking the under at 5 and a half days.

JjBee62 Well we have already gone back and forth. I'm not going to focus so much on the small details. The discussion can be enriched with different points of views Better if we focus on the message not on the messenger. But yeah sometimes people just have different position on the issue.

Sure what she earns Is only 60% important to me.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2500213]Why would anyone hire a hooker in Europe and then pay to take her to Colombia? .[/QUOTE]In the name of love. Once more in the name of love. :-)

[QUOTE=BootyBandit84;2499979]Hey guys,

I'm heading down to Colombia this week and was wondering if I can get a prepaid SIM card for my old unlocked Samsung phone. I would rather leave my actual phone in the apartment in case I get pickpocketed or robed. It's only happed to me once in Mexico but better safe than sorry. I just want to have internet availability without having to hunt free WiFi. Any help is always appreciated![/QUOTE]My suggestion is to sign up with google fi. It could be a tad bit higher but worth it.

Plus when purchasing SIM cards you often need to present your passport. If your phone is stolen and crimes committed on your phone you may be in trouble.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2500213] The round trip ticket alone is probably the equivalent of fucking 50 casa girls. [/QUOTE]Well there is one option to keep the European price equal to med prices. Instead of banging two Facebook girls every month for 2 years for 400,000. Use porn hub for 2 years save money and then it will be easy to bring your girlfriend from Europe to visit you in Colombia.

What fun is it to bang the hottest 10 at the casa if the whole time you're thinking of some 8 girl you know back home. Like someone said, Value and attractiveness may be different depending on the eye of the beholder.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2500213]What the girl does, when she isn't doing what you pay her for is none of your fucking business.[/QUOTE]LOL. I don't care what a chick that is not a hooker is doing. Damn sure would not care what a hooker is doing. When I was married I came in the house late one time from being at a buddy's house. It was about 3 am. My wife got up and got dressed and left the house. I went to sleep. When she got back she was angry that I did not ask where she was going. I said you are a grown woman. If you wanted me to know then you would have told me.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2500173]Sorry, this make no sense, why would you want to bring a girl to Colombia.[/QUOTE]In Colombia they say "llevar lenha al monte", in other countries "bring sand to the beach".

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2500345]In Colombia they say "llevar lenha al monte"...[/QUOTE]LEña. ñ is easy on a Windows keyboard: alt + 164.

I am winging this. I don't know what to expect really. But she text with excitement and a little jealous / insecurities which she back track to not mess up the deal. I guess since she goes to work will you get any excessively late return. Well you know I tell the good and the bad. [QOTE=JjBee62;2500294]And that's the way it should be. If you're hiring someone to unclog your drain, does it really matter what his hobbies are, and how many kids he has? He does the work, you pay the bill.

I noticed 8 days, but I'm taking the under at 5 and a half days. [ / QUOTE].

So I decide to return to Centro. I go early to get back for the big football game. Slim pickings beside plethora of girls look young. Nothing interesting outside of the youngies. Well this girl notices me and says Hi. We met night before at lleras park. She asked for 200, then drop to 150, when went to my house she text 100 was fine. I was tired from centro and I am pretty much a 1 but wonder these days LOL. So I remember surfer say I problem could get it for 25. I am the type of guy will take your advice and do better. I said cuantos she said 50 mil. I said 20 mil. She said yes. Then I thought I her say 10 mil repeatedly. So I said lets go. Go to pay the receptionist said 6 m. Yesterday it was 5 mil. I didn't contest. Went to the room. She looked alright. Tight nice tits, strong body. Ok. She said 20 mil. I didn't fuss. Told her suave, romantico. I like my foreplay goddammit. She like me kissing on her neck and she did mines. She suck my dick for about 5 minutes raw. Did a decent job. Few kisses on the breast. Time to fuck. Missionary then backshot. She took backshot well then she said we had 10 minutes so went back to missionary. Th e sex felt good and I exploded. Got dress. Gave her the 20 mil and hit the road. Bought a bunch of veggies and fruits for home and took a cab. But the twist is at lleras park she stood hard at 150 and at Centro she accepted 20mil so easily. I think also theres a loyalty in Centro that they charge very little unless you a gringo but if they leave beyond the area thats when they are driven to jack the price

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2500354]LEa. is easy on a Windows keyboard: alt + 164.[/QUOTE]LOL! I know all that. I also have it on my kbd.

But we are on a board that corrects "C" with "see" and autocorrects many words to its taste. How could I trust that an ñ could be accepted? Even now I had to edit to restore C.

"nh" is the standard correct Spanish way to write ñ on a limited ASCII set.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2500388]
"nh" is the standard correct Spanish way to write on a limited ASCII set.[/QUOTE]Thank you: good to know!

You Sir, are now a certified Centro rat. I am not surprised you decided to return to Centro. It is very addictive. You discovered something that is often disputed and denied on this and other web sites. The same girls who are asking for six figures in Lleras are available at the going rate (which you now know to be 20k to 30k) in Centro.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2500380]So I decide to return to Centro. I go early to get back for the big football game. Slim pickings beside plethora of girls look young. Nothing interesting outside of the youngies. Well this girl notices me and says Hi. We met night before at lleras park. She asked for 200, then drop to 150, when went to my house she text 100 was fine. I was tired from centro and I am pretty much a 1 but wonder these days LOL. So I remember surfer say I problem could get it for 25. I am the type of guy will take your advice and do better. I said cuantos she said 50 mil. I said 20 mil. She said yes. Then I thought I her say 10 mil repeatedly. So I said lets go. Go to pay the receptionist said 6 m. Yesterday it was 5 mil. I didn't contest. Went to the room. She looked alright. Tight nice tits, strong body. Ok. She said 20 mil. I didn't fuss. Told her suave, romantico. I like my foreplay goddammit. She like me kissing on her neck and she did mines. She suck my dick for about 5 minutes raw. Did a decent job. Few kisses on the breast. Time to fuck. Missionary then backshot. She took backshot well then she said we had 10 minutes so went back to missionary. Th e sex felt good and I exploded. Got dress. Gave her the 20 mil and hit the road. Bought a bunch of veggies and fruits for home and took a cab. But the twist is at lleras park she stood hard at 150 and at Centro she accepted 20mil so easily. I think also theres a loyalty in Centro that they charge very little unless you a gringo but if they leave beyond the area thats when they are driven to jack the price[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blakman;2499936]You lose me on the rhetoric most times. But you are an expert mathmetician. So tell me 7 days how much should she get.

.[/QUOTE]If she is planning to webcam, this is how I see it:

You're paying for her food.

You're paying for her drinks.

You're paying for her weed.

You're giving her a better living situation.

You're saving her all the time and hassle of haggling with 20k Centro-sweeping a-holes like you, for the next 8 days ;)

So, do you think she is a one-a-day kind of girl? I'd doubt it, if she's camming. I'd say she probably tries to snag a couple 250-300k citas, each week.

You recall I had a SA 18yo at 400k for a month. Everything I mentioned above was a major factor in my negotiations (except for weed, although I was paying for something much more expensive).

So, in short, with the special consideration of you now being a Centro Rat, I say you go for 600k. That's four 150k citas, three 200k citas, or two 300k citas, AND she doesn't have her normal expenses. You'd know better as far as which category she likely fits into.

Now, the next time you're taking a piss, slowly look up. Lock eyes with yourself in the mirror, and slowly but firmly say these words: 30 Centro fucks!

I took a crew of 8 ppl to Fahrenheit in Itagui / Palmahia, last night. It was my chick's bday. Entry was 10k per and the bill for a bottle of rum, a bunch of Cokes, and a shitload of beers was 715k (including all entries). There was a decent amount of people, lots of girls dancing, and closing time was 3a (Lleras / Provenza is 12a, right now). Almost ended up at Motel Ibiza to keep the party going, but finished the night in my jacuzzi with 5 of us. It was a recovery day, today. We tried to go to Vintrash, in Provenza, but it was 21+ only. As Ratman mentioned, Lleras / Provenza is feeling pretty normal, these days.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2500424]
So, in short, with the special consideration of you now being a Centro Rat, I say you go for 600k. That's four 150k citas, three 200k citas, or two 300k citas, AND she doesn't have her normal expenses. [/QUOTE] lool Negotiation master class LOL. Good stuff. Book mark it.

Lucky I read this. Save me taxi money. Slapballer its great your having fun balling. Reasonable logic you just presented. Much cheaper than other folks so I side with you.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2500424]If she is planning to webcam, this is how I see it:

You're paying for her food.

You're paying for her drinks.

You're paying for her weed.

You're giving her a better living situation.

You're saving her all the time and hassle of haggling with 20k Centro-sweeping a-holes like you, for the next 8 days ;)

So, do you think she is a one-a-day kind of girl? I'd doubt it, if she's camming. I'd say she probably tries to snag a couple 250-300k citas, each week.

You recall I had a SA 18yo at 400k for a month. Everything I mentioned above was a major factor in my negotiations (except for weed, although I was paying for something much more expensive).

So, in short, with the special consideration of you now being a Centro Rat, I say you go for 600k. That's four 150k citas, three 200k citas, or two 300k citas, AND she doesn't have her normal expenses. You'd know better as far as which category she likely fits into.

Now, the next time you're taking a piss, slowly look up. Lock eyes with yourself in the mirror, and slowly but firmly say these words: 30 Centro fucks!

I took a crew of 8 ppl to Fahrenheit in Itagui / Palmahia, last night. It was my chick's bday. Entry was 10k per and the bill for a bottle of rum, a bunch of Cokes, and a shitload of beers was 715k (including all entries). There was a decent amount of people, lots of girls dancing, and closing time was 3a (Lleras / Provenza is 12a, right now). Almost ended up at Motel Ibiza to keep the party going, but finished the night in my jacuzzi with 5 of us. It was a recovery day, today. We tried to go to Vintrash, in Provenza, but it was 21+ only. As Ratman mentioned, Lleras / Provenza is feeling pretty normal, these days.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2500173]why would you want to bring a girl to Colombia. [/QUOTE]Well it makes more sense if we talk about. The winter in Europe is brutal. Some girls would love walk around in their underwear November through February. Plus it's more than just escorting. Sex, friendship, a sisster. That's also what I was saying this type of close relationship I could just ask and if she were web camming In my place she would tell me all the details. Plus I would be interested. Nothing she would mind telling me. Not just any girl it's a close friend. I bet she would have such a good time She would consider staying longer. The price doesn't have to be expensive. Just abstain from from sex for 2 years in med. Save the money. There you go.

So you say Europe is cooler. Maybe, but she will have that for the rest of her life. Why not see something new and exciting for a change. She already asked me like 8 times when she could come over. In the beginning I thought it was a joke. I was like I'll see you tthere better. But after thinking about it....

[QUOTE=Frank11;2500465]Well it makes more sense if we talk about. The winter in Europe is brutal. Some girls would love walk around in their underwear November through February. Plus it's more than just escorting. Sex, friendship, a sisster. That's also what I was saying this type of close relationship I could just ask and if she were web camming In my place she would tell me all the details. Plus I would be interested. Nothing she would mind telling me. Not just any girl it's a close friend. I bet she would have such a good time She would consider staying longer. The price doesn't have to be expensive. Just abstain from from sex for 2 years in med. Save the money. There you go.

So you say Europe is cooler. Maybe, but she will have that for the rest of her life. Why not see something new and exciting for a change. She already asked me like 8 times when she could come over. In the beginning I thought it was a joke. I was like I'll see you tthere better. But after thinking about it....[/QUOTE]You said it was going to make more sense.

I'm not the least bit interested in bringing my sister to Colombia, having her walk around in her underwear and then pay her for sex. I spent 3 winters in Idaho, with temperatures hitting -40° and I still don't want to fuck my sister in Colombia, especially if I have to pay her. What country in Europe is it traditional to pay your sister for sex? I thought that was just in Alabama.

Hello guys,

Where can I find a sugar girlfriend, I'm looking for a long time lover, I don't know whether to look for girls who work, maybe a student who needs money, I will also mention that I want to take me to my country, and how much would I have to pay for it?

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2500173]Sorry, this make no sense, why would you want to bring a girl to Colombia. [/QUOTE]That's like bringing sand to the beach, or trying to enter Colombia while the Country was closed as was posted by others.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2500260]I think I smell a new Centro rat. Mark my words, you will see the routine of extended negotiations over six figure fees and long waits for taxi arrivals in a different light. A little voice in the back of your head will say "I just paid 10 times for the same nut I could have had in Centro. The makeup and fancy clothes are nice. I usually compromise with a mileroticos apt or Laureles casa visit.[/QUOTE]Yes, your are spot on, it will be a metamorphis for him, yet the only question pending is whether he will come out "meaning like a gay coming out of the closet", or a President conceding, and acknowledge his transformation into a Centro rat when he can start to earn his whiskers based on his conquests.

Arrived at the playground (Calle / Carrea 52), aka ground zero (Museum / Veracruz Area), on Saturday afternoon after a long hiatus. I was a bit spaced out after flying all night from LA and kinda stumbled around trying to gauge what differences there had been since before the Pandemic. Saturday afternoons typically are quite packed at ground zero with a lot of civilians mixed in with the working girls. What appeared a bit different though, was that there were a lot more "younger girls" out then I had seen before. And it also seemed as though there were lot more men hanging around with nothing to do. Lot's of new girls out I had never seen before, and also lots of the same girls out back from March and before. I was pretty tired, and did not have the energy to deal with a new street urchin so decided to see if one of my past conquests was out. Some of them were out, all giving me the google eye, wanting to go arriba. After taking a couple of laps around the area I encountered a tiny spinner I had been with before, a bit older around 30, but a stick of dynamite. Yikes, so tiny, each one or her little buns fit in the cups of my hand. After travelling so far and being away so long, what a relief it was blowing a load to get the week started. I plan to venture back to ground zero Sunday afternoon, typically it's very dead then, but I have had some good experiences encountering girls that only show up randomly to pick up a little extra money on Sunday afternoons.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2500380] I think also theres a loyalty in Centro that they charge very little unless you a gringo but if they leave beyond the area thats when they are driven to jack the price[/QUOTE]There's no loyalty among thieves, which I'm sure you have heard before, and there is no loyalty among the Chicas in El Centro. Keep in mind that over 99% of the clients who patronize the Chicas in El Centro are not gringos, and very few of the Chicas there have ever been to LLeras, or other areas to monger. To continue your path in becoming a verified street rat, you need to start thinking like a local, and deal with the Chicas like a local. To better hone your "cheap charlie" credentials, the locals don't always ask the El Centro Chicas how much, but just make offers. I've witnessed several of what I call, "failed negotiations". A local will come up to a Chica, chit chat for a moment, and then walk away. What has transpired is that the guy made a a low ball offer like 15 K, and the Chica has said no. Maybe this seems low and were not talking beauty queens here, but this is what goes on. So moving forward you might want to try making lowball offers, let them reject it, then up the ante. This is where you will shine, and then you can dictate all the add on's you want, like BBBJ, and I don't want to know what else you might want. Report back to us on your progress.

[QUOTE=Shamester;2500317]My suggestion is to sign up with google fi. It could be a tad bit higher but worth it.

Plus when purchasing SIM cards you often need to present your passport. If your phone is stolen and crimes committed on your phone you may be in trouble.[/QUOTE]Really? Is this a thing in Colombia? I have gotten prepaid local SIM cards in mexico and Europe and I have never had to give my passport information. I was just planing on getting enough time to cover the week I'm going to be there. Not looking for a monthly plan. If it comes to that Ill just use my own plan as I have international coverage if I pay 10 $ for every day I use it. I was just hoping I could get a prepaid SIM I could add a few dollars and use for the week instead. Thanks for the idea though.

I'm still going to cancel my account.

Just wanted to say I was talking about an escort from Europe coming to visit a friend in Colombia. How could that possibly be off topic in a Colombia sex guide? Where does it say we can only talk about 30,000 peso an hour street hookers. What I was saying is on topic.

And what I said does make sense. What don't you understand? It's just a friend coming to visit another friend and then having sex. It's not calculos 6.

You don't make sense. Build your own forum. Then you can say fantastical statements like talking about escorts in colombia is completely off topic.

I was thinking of deleting my account about a week ago because I was just too busy doing other things.

Bye bye.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2500413]You Sir, are now a certified Centro rat. I am not surprised you decided to return to Centro. It is very addictive. You discovered something that is often disputed and denied on this and other web sites. The same girls who are asking for six figures in Lleras are available at the going rate (which you now know to be 20k to 30k) in Centro.[/QUOTE]I will second this, however his grade / status level is kind of like the first year as an athlete, kind of like rookie status, or his first year in the military, yet instead of earning stripes he can earn whisker (s) after he's done a very pregnant CHica, or by doing a deaf mute. If guys could get beyond what may seem as "dumpster diving", needing girls dressed to the nine with a pretty face, they would discover "nirvana" as hard as it is to believe. The possibilities are endless as to things that can transpire with a lot of patience mining Centro.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2500482]You said it was going to make more sense.
I'm not the least bit interested in bringing my sister to Colombia, having her walk around in her underwear and then pay her for sex. [/QUOTE]It does make sense. So you are not interested in bringing a friend over from Europe. That is your valid opinion. But can't you understand that maybe somebody else is interested in this. Maybe somebody else is not interested in going to the med Centro. Maybe somebody else iis not interested in the med Facebook scene. Maybe they prefer to spend time with someone they already know and have a good friendship with.

Why doesn't it make sense? You never explain that you just made a bunch of incest jokes.

If she's going to spend 3 weeks in my house she better be like a best friend. Maybe people just don't want to have complete strangers that aren't even friends in their house. If I just want to fox some complete stranger I could just use my hand and xvideo.com. +10 years from now this girl will still be My friend leaving me messages on Facebook..

Plus a lot of your post I've always got the feeling there just overly critical. And focus on criticizing ssmall details That could have several explanations.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2500482]You said it was going to make more sense.

I'm not the least bit interested in bringing my sister to Colombia, having her walk around in her underwear and then pay her for sex. I spent 3 winters in Idaho, with temperatures hitting -40 and I still don't want to fuck my sister in Colombia, especially if I have to pay her. What country in Europe is it traditional to pay your sister for sex? I thought that was just in Alabama.[/QUOTE]I don't think the reference to "sister" was meant in a biological sense. But if it wasn't, I wouldn't be surprised. Perhaps maybe in Albania, versus Alabama is a European Country where it's traditional to pay your sister for sex.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2500107] I actually ventured down to centro today. Withstood the pouring rain and guess what fuck my first girl in centro. When I nutted I could hear you surfer saying that a boy. I laughed all the way home thinking how you would be so proud. And say See I told you so. It was rather interesting. Got to go to 3 strip clubs. I damn near didn't want to leave but without my viagra. My super powers was all gone. It was loaded with girls. Dumpsters, hard knocks, hood girls, youngies, and some looking clean girls. The process was surprisingly quick. I said how much. She said 30. I almost freaked out. Then went up to the hotel and it was 5 mil. Damn I am in heaven. Got in the room. Tight but same size as new life. Clean. Ok lets go. I didn't take a tablet so I was just blakman not superman. I did the best I could then told her jerk me off which was a very skillful job. Did not hurt my pocket at all. The girl felt warm so now I am worried about covid. Made up cards so passed a couple around.

.[/QUOTE]Congratulations, your negotiations frame of reference will never be the same. Did you happen to spot the honey-blonde in the thigh-high boots? I enjoyed her company Thursday afternoon. Certainly a repeat candidate, in the apartment, as soon as thecute little Venezuelan girl living with me moves back in with her Colombian sister. They had a big fight, I was the winner.

[QUOTE=Don0700;2500519]Hello guys,

Where can I find a sugar girlfriend, I'm looking for a long time lover, I don't know whether to look for girls who work, maybe a student who needs money, I will also mention that I want to take me to my country, and how much would I have to pay for it?[/QUOTE]If you want her to live long term with you, you probably just have to pay living expenses and persuade your country's border staff that she won't be a drain on the state.

[QUOTE=BootyBandit84;2500546]Really? Is this a thing in Colombia? I have gotten prepaid local SIM cards in mexico and Europe and I have never had to give my passport information. I was just planing on getting enough time to cover the week I'm going to be there. Not looking for a monthly plan. [/QUOTE]If you use a local SIM for more than 30 days without registering it, they will try to block your phone IMEI on the assumption that it's stolen.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2500594]I don't think the reference to "sister" was meant in a biological sense. But if it wasn't, I wouldn't be surprised. Perhaps maybe in Albania, versus Alabama is a European Country where it's traditional to pay your sister for sex.[/QUOTE]In my post sister was used in the context of "A woman who is not part of my family is my friend like a sister. " The word sister was not used in the context of incest.

[QUOTE=LeyenLouvain;2500617]If you use a local SIM for more than 30 days without registering it, they will try to block your phone IMEI on the assumption that it's stolen.[/QUOTE]Not just try, it will get blocked. And a real problem if you come back and ever want to get another Sim for the same phone.

[QUOTE=BootyBandit84;2500546]Really? Is this a thing in Colombia? I have gotten prepaid local SIM cards in mexico and Europe and I have never had to give my passport information. I was just planing on getting enough time to cover the week I'm going to be there. Not looking for a monthly plan. If it comes to that Ill just use my own plan as I have international coverage if I pay 10 $ for every day I use it. I was just hoping I could get a prepaid SIM I could add a few dollars and use for the week instead. Thanks for the idea though.[/QUOTE]Many countries in the Americas often ask for your passport to purchase and register your sim card.

Hit the playground early afternoon today all rested up, feeling like Tony The Tiger, and ready to rape and pillage. However it was kind of slow as it usually is on Sundays and I stumbled upon this chocolate race-horse. A little on the darker side for me, but that wasn't going to stop me as things looked pretty good with the clothes on. During the interview process she was a bit polished saying that she provided good service which usually is a red flag, yet I was dying to see this race-horse from Bogota unwrapped. I decided not to low ball her, and just told her 30 K including a BBBJ. Blakman I know your going to bust my chops for this, but some of us can afford to pay these Chicas an extra 2-3 USD to avoid being called an elbow in Spanish (coto) which is another expression (dicho) for a Cheap Charlie.

Anyways, I took her to a Hotel on the backside of the Church, and the service was a let down, and I should of known better, sometimes the little head prevails. The BBBJ was weak and she was mechanical to say the least. But the visuals are what made me finish, not the interaction I am used to were the Chica is into it wanting to get off. Just another day at the playground with more to follow this week!

Since my suckie ass Washington football team was losing I decided to go get some quick action. I was transforming into a centro rat. 12 mil taxi ride and a little rain arrive. Quick stroll. Notice my victim yesterday asking if I want to go again. Nah today is a new pussy day. Few strolls and as mentioned before little of everything. My eyes spot a big ass older black mid 30's women. Out of all the choices I chose her. Thats when I said dammit blakman you have gone to far. After enjoying the sex I came to the conclusion it was time to retire from el centro. If you study the equation like slapcalculas. Pinky * ex wifey *Double the 3 some. Damn I sound like franky 1 here but keep up with me. Then centro is not much cheaper. Your session are 30 minutes. So price needs to double and tiny hotel rooms considered. Anyways surfer, negro pollen, tall man and other centro patriots. Its all yours.

It is a simple matter to register your IMEI. Claro let's you do it on the Internet, on their mobile app from your phone, or you can visit any of their branches around the city. Get a local SIM. It is the least costly and most reliable way to have mobile data.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2500622]Not just try, it will get blocked. And a real problem if you come back and ever want to get another Sim for the same phone.[/QUOTE]

Blakman you are navigating the 5 stages of becoming a Centro rat. This most recent stage was disappointment / denial. The remaining stages are reassessment, resignation, and finally full rat status. Thank you for sharing your journey. In spite of what you said, it is not yet over.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2500650]Since my suckie ass Washington football team was losing I decided to go get some quick action. I was transforming into a centro rat. 12 mil taxi ride and a little rain arrive. Quick stroll. Notice my victim yesterday asking if I want to go again. Nah today is a new pussy day. Few strolls and as mentioned before little of everything. My eyes spot a big ass older black mid 30's women. Out of all the choices I chose her. Thats when I said dammit blakman you have gone to far. After enjoying the sex I came to the conclusion it was time to retire from el centro. If you study the equation like slapcalculas. Pinky * ex wifey *Double the 3 some. Damn I sound like franky 1 here but keep up with me. Then centro is not much cheaper. Your session are 30 minutes. So price needs to double and tiny hotel rooms considered. Anyways surfer, negro pollen, tall man and other centro patriots. Its all yours.[/QUOTE]

I've got one girl for 300,00 3 hours. She is an 8. I got one 9 for 800,000 for 4 hours. And I have one 10 for 800,000. (800,000 for the 1st date Only) turn on the news channels and wait until the models, at the end of the news for the entertainment section. That is what the 10 looks like. The 10 actually works in photography as a model and as an amateur TV show anchor com mentating on topics that affect the city in the country. All 3 of those girls are seeking. I'm not trying to be cheap. And I don't need to be cheap. So save yourself the criticism.

I've got an 11 in the northern hemisphere that would give me 2-3 hours for US $230. (And I don't Pay in dollars
! oh my God don't have a cow with your "he is lying" police work) It's special pricing for honest men, good negotiators, and recurring customers. A lot of you won't believe this part but that's just because you just can't play ball like I play ball.She's almost taller than me, and I'm no midget.

My 11 calls me all the time talking for hours and always asking me when she can visit me or for going to hang out again in the northern hemisphere. I'm not going to clear the doubts or explain how I accomplish these things. I'm not lying. I don't need to lie. I don't need to prove to you or to convince you that I'm not lying. The sun shines on me whethher you like it or not.

As you can see there is much sunlight in my dating life. If A few deadbeats on the forum questioning my honesty or sanity doesn't bother me one bit. At the end the day I have an 8 and 9 at 10 and 11. If I want to Fox I Fox. If I want a suck she sucks. If I want to watch a movie, have dinner, go out, come conversation. It all happens.

This will probably last message you read From me as I'm waiting for my account to be closed. The group mentality here just isn't ready for my advanced ball playing abilities and my novel ideas. But as I said the sun keep shining for me.

Good luck in your endeavors. Bye-bye. I'm not the joke here.Actually I'm just a little bit tann And tomato red because the sun just doesn't stop shining on me. I've got so much honey bearrs envy me. I even tried sharing with you guys... But whatever. :-)

Frank Sinatra is out. H-I-M

Problem with the education system that needs to be updated is we only teach students critical thinking. So All the young bucks go Out onto the world trying to take down the lies and accuse everyone of Lying. When will the curriculum include creative thinking, strategic thinking, game theory. Like the old saying goes:

"Who did you think I was?"

Nice little body. Much better choice than my Retired ass. I decided to do what you say with my extended agreement. Give her a day trial if not canceling totally. She's a pot head. And the building I am in does not allowing smoking and I smoke very little. It seems most our conversation is based on weed. She adds she needs to smoke it to fall asleep.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2500646]Hit the playground early afternoon today all rested up, feeling like Tony The Tiger, and ready to rape and pillage. However it was kind of slow as it usually is on Sundays and I stumbled upon this chocolate race-horse. A little on the darker side for me, but that wasn't going to stop me as things looked pretty good with the clothes on. During the interview process she was a bit polished saying that she provided good service which usually is a red flag, yet I was dying to see this race-horse from Bogota unwrapped. I decided not to low ball her, and just told her 30 K including a BBBJ. Blakman I know your going to bust my chops for this, but some of us can afford to pay these Chicas an extra 2-3 USD to avoid being called an elbow in Spanish (coto) which is another expression (dicho) for a Cheap Charlie.

Anyways, I took her to a Hotel on the backside of the Church, and the service was a let down, and I should of known better, sometimes the little head prevails. The BBBJ was weak and she was mechanical to say the least. But the visuals are what made me finish, not the interaction I am used to were the Chica is into it wanting to get off. Just another day at the playground with more to follow this week![/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2500646]Hit the playground early afternoon today all rested up, feeling like Tony The Tiger, and ready to rape and pillage. However it was kind of slow as it usually is on Sundays and I stumbled upon this chocolate race-horse. A little on the darker side for me, but that wasn't going to stop me as things looked pretty good with the clothes on. During the interview process she was a bit polished saying that she provided good service which usually is a red flag, yet I was dying to see this race-horse from Bogota unwrapped. I decided not to low ball her, and just told her 30 K including a BBBJ. Blakman I know your going to bust my chops for this, but some of us can afford to pay these Chicas an extra 2-3 USD to avoid being called an elbow in Spanish (coto) which is another expression (dicho) for a Cheap Charlie.

Anyways, I took her to a Hotel on the backside of the Church, and the service was a let down, and I should of known better, sometimes the little head prevails. The BBBJ was weak and she was mechanical to say the least. But the visuals are what made me finish, not the interaction I am used to were the Chica is into it wanting to get off. Just another day at the playground with more to follow this week![/QUOTE]What a fantastic little body. Great pic.

[QUOTE=Shamester;2500623]Many countries in the Americas often ask for your passport to purchase and register your sim card.[/QUOTE]I had no idea this was a thing. I guess I will just use my regular phone then. I don't a phone plan in a country I might only visit a few weeks a year. Thanks to everyone that helped me out with this, I thought it was going to be super simple like in Mexico.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2500682]Nice little body. Much better choice than my Retired ass. I decided to do what you say with my extended agreement. Give her a day trial if not canceling totally. She's a pot head. And the building I am in does not allowing smoking and I smoke very little. It seems most our conversation is based on weed. She adds she needs to smoke it to fall asleep.

.[/QUOTE]It is really simple. Get a vape. A decent one sells for like $66. There is almost no smell when you use one.

PM me if you want the brand. BTW also very easy on your lungs.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2500646]Hit the playground early afternoon today all rested up, feeling like Tony The Tiger, and ready to rape and pillage. However it was kind of slow as it usually is on Sundays and I stumbled upon this chocolate race-horse. A little on the darker side for me, but that wasn't going to stop me as things looked pretty good with the clothes on. During the interview process she was a bit polished saying that she provided good service which usually is a red flag, yet I was dying to see this race-horse from Bogota unwrapped. I decided not to low ball her, and just told her 30 K including a BBBJ. Blakman I know your going to bust my chops for this, but some of us can afford to pay these Chicas an extra 2-3 USD to avoid being called an elbow in Spanish (coto) which is another expression (dicho) for a Cheap Charlie.

Anyways, I took her to a Hotel on the backside of the Church, and the service was a let down, and I should of known better, sometimes the little head prevails. The BBBJ was weak and she was mechanical to say the least. But the visuals are what made me finish, not the interaction I am used to were the Chica is into it wanting to get off. Just another day at the playground with more to follow this week![/QUOTE]I had her before I left. Cute face. Loved her firm little ass. Great smooth skin. Poor performance. But the thing that killed me is she had no boobs. The ***** was wearing 2 bras! I am a boob guy and that is a horrible thing to do to a boob guy.

After having dinner with a buddy in Lalinde this evening I decided to walk thru Parque Lleras to see if anything was happening and it was pretty dead at 9 PM and the beer store had the most clientale, but I didn't see any walkers until I left the park and headed down Calle 10. To my amazement, and disgust, there were two shemales, and high caliber ones, not like you see in El Centro plying their trade on Calle 10 two blocks down the hill from Lleras. This is something that I have never ever seen before in Poblado.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2500682]Nice little body. Much better choice than my Retired ass. I decided to do what you say with my extended agreement. Give her a day trial if not canceling totally. She's a pot head. And the building I am in does not allowing smoking and I smoke very little. It seems most our conversation is based on weed. She adds she needs to smoke it to fall asleep..[/QUOTE]I have no problem with Chicas that like to smoke weed. Makes them hornier than shit, and willing to do literally anything you want. So you have to ask yourself, you can have a Chica that smokes weed and gives you the full monty, or a Chica that doesn't smoke weed and has lots of rules and regulations. The choice is obvious for me.

I am not supporting any chicks habits. Now I know what she was hinting at. Clearing she's trying to hustle me for more than our financial agreement. I don't go all out for pussy. I like it simple and cost effective. Cheapy hardhead charlie LOL. But good advice if I was a smoker

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2500697]It is really simple. Get a vape. A decent one sells for like $66. There is almost no smell when you use one.

PM me if you want the brand. BTW also very easy on your lungs.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=BootyBandit84;2500689]I had no idea this was a thing. I guess I will just use my regular phone then. I don't a phone plan in a country I might only visit a few weeks a year. Thanks to everyone that helped me out with this, I thought it was going to be super simple like in Mexico.[/QUOTE]I have had 3 sim cards in Colombia over the last 2 years. I have never had to do the registration thing and neve had to show my passport to get it.

Also as for needing to buy credit as well, yes it is true you may have to but the sim card will come with a small amount of credit so it is possible to use it and get more credit using your card.

My last one I bought in the corner shop for 4000 COP 4 months ago and I still haven't used all the credit.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2500682]Nice little body. Much better choice than my Retired ass. I decided to do what you say with my extended agreement. Give her a day trial if not canceling totally. She's a pot head. And the building I am in does not allowing smoking and I smoke very little. It seems most our conversation is based on weed. She adds she needs to smoke it to fall asleep.

.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a very common Paisa hood-rat. Although they have more manners and respect than US pot-obsessed hood-rats, I would not want to live with one for even a day. Be prepared for this possible scenario, she insists that you venture with her into deeply depressed barrios where she can buy weed on the cheap or from her network of friends. When you arrive she instructs you to wait for her, alone, as it is not safe for you to go further. That may be true, or, she just doesn't want to be seen with you in there. Yes, I speak from experience

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2500622]Not just try, it will get blocked. And a real problem if you come back and ever want to get another Sim for the same phone.[/QUOTE]I got this message from the operator when I was there and I just ignore it. But I have been there 15 days, then I left. Can I go back with the same phone, and use it again for another two weeks? Maybe with a different SIM, since I doubt I'll be back this year?

[QUOTE=BootyBandit84;2500689]I had no idea this was a thing. I guess I will just use my regular phone then. I don't a phone plan in a country I might only visit a few weeks a year. Thanks to everyone that helped me out with this, I thought it was going to be super simple like in Mexico.[/QUOTE]There is a very easy solution, which I recommend and which I have done for many years in Colombia and all around the world, until COVID stopped my travels.

1) For local calls, SMS, and for moving around at night in questionable places, buy a traditional old plain GSM phone from any small shop (a brand new Nokia working on American bands costed me 20 k COP some years ago). Buy a disposable prepaid SIM card for it, for few dollars. I did register my GSM phone at a Claro point several years ago, but Mr. Knowledge says that now it is even simpler ([URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2500658&viewfull=1#post2500658[/URL]).
Having this phone will allow you to call anyone also from bad streets or "nidos de perros" without attracting unwanted attention.

2) In Colombia, I would NOT suggest to put a local SIM card in your personal phone, and for a variety of reasons:
- you need to register your phone, or it will be be blocked in a few days (once blocked, you cannot go back);
- unless you have a dual SIM, you will have to give your Colombia number to your relatives and work colleagues in your country to be contacted during your travel (do they know you are in Colombia?).
If you keep your SIM in your phone, your phone will NOT have to be registered in Colombia: it will work in roaming. Disable data roaming to not be overcharged, and connect to wifi for all data applications. Your family and work colleagues might not even know you are in Colombia, as your phone will ring as if you were in your country (there is a pitfall here: if you are out of reach, the recorded message will be from the Colombia operator, reveling where you were before switching off the phone).

3) Buy a 4G mobile Wifi modem (mifi), where you will put the local prepaid cheap SIM. This is a small investment, which will be worth for years of travels anywhere you go in the world.
You will have to register that IMEI, unless you buy it from an operator of your country (in that case, it is preregistered. I have never registered mine, and it was never blocked). Go around (except questionable places where you do not want to have anything of value with you) with your mifi in your pocket. Your personal wifi will be with you and around you at all times. Your phone will be always online, using data from your mifi, but in roaming for voice. The only precaution is to avoid to answer calls, because roaming calls may be expensive, and call back using SkypeOut or WeChatOut, nearly for free.

All this sounds complicated when you read it, but once you do it you will be happy and without hassle for many years of travels.

I differ on your assessment I don't think you have the prior story. I am in Colombia and was with her recently and had an amazing time. Weed is a common use globally so her issue is not an oddity especially with young people. The problem could be more me in that I only smoke a tiny bit of weed prior to sex and look at smoking it otherwise as a weakness or nuisances. I didn't seen signs of a hoodrat. I definitely saw that in the girl afterwards. I did grab a blunt from a taxi driver who gave me his contact so I won't be heading into any barrios. Though I want to do a nightclub / bar in the barrios. It should go down today. The sex and the body was amazing. No kids. Will keep yall posted. I don't discount your assessment. Just doubt it.

Update: She just text me 5:40am in the morning to confirm our meeting. Says shes on her way to work. Maybe shes really a web cam afterall lol

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2500719]Sounds like a very common Paisa hood-rat. Although they have more manners and respect than US pot-obsessed hood-rats, I would not want to live with one for even a day. Be prepared for this possible scenario, she insists that you venture with her into deeply depressed barrios where she can buy weed on the cheap or from her network of friends. When you arrive she instructs you to wait for her, alone, as it is not safe for you to go further. That may be true, or, she just doesn't want to be seen with you in there. Yes, I speak from experience[/QUOTE].

I honestly the taxi drive which is 25-30 mil retired me along with covid. I do like the strip clubs, the fruit markets and other things in the area. So its not a bad place overall. I prefer laureles, castellana, colores, san juan casas. But I might try an airbnb in the centro area though, before I leave.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2500663]Blakman you are navigating the 5 stages of becoming a Centro rat. This most recent stage was disappointment / denial. The remaining stages are reassessment, resignation, and finally full rat status. Thank you for sharing your journey. In spite of what you said, it is not yet over.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2500793]There is a very easy solution, which I recommend and which I have done for many years in Colombia and all around the world, until COVID stopped my travels.

1) For local calls, SMS, and for moving around at night in questionable places, buy a traditional old plain GSM phone from any small shop (a brand new Nokia working on American bands costed me 20 k COP some years ago). Buy a disposable prepaid SIM card for it, for few dollars. I did register my GSM phone at a Claro point several years ago, but Mr. Knowledge says that now it is even simpler ([URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2500658&viewfull=1#post2500658[/URL]).
Having this phone will allow you to call anyone also from bad streets or "nidos de perros" without attracting unwanted attention.

2) In Colombia, I would NOT suggest to put a local SIM card in your personal phone, and for a variety of reasons:
- you need to register your phone, or it will be be blocked in a few days (once blocked, you cannot go back);
- unless you have a dual SIM, you will have to give your Colombia number to your relatives and work colleagues in your country to be contacted during your travel (do they know you are in Colombia?).
If you keep your SIM in your phone, your phone will NOT have to be registered in Colombia: it will work in roaming. Disable data roaming to not be overcharged, and connect to wifi for all data applications. Your family and work colleagues might not even know you are in Colombia, as your phone will ring as if you were in your country (there is a pitfall here: if you are out of reach, the recorded message will be from the Colombia operator, reveling where you were before switching off the phone).

3) Buy a 4G mobile Wifi modem (mifi), where you will put the local prepaid cheap SIM. This is a small investment, which will be worth for years of travels anywhere you go in the world.
You will have to register that IMEI, unless you buy it from an operator of your country (in that case, it is preregistered. I have never registered mine, and it was never blocked). Go around (except questionable places where you do not want to have anything of value with you) with your mifi in your pocket. Your personal wifi will be with you and around you at all times. Your phone will be always online, using data from your mifi, but in roaming for voice. The only precaution is to avoid to answer calls, because roaming calls may be expensive, and call back using SkypeOut or WeChatOut, nearly for free.

All this sounds complicated when you read it, but once you do it you will be happy and without hassle for many years of travels.[/QUOTE]Ok that's interesting, however I'm not getting where the MiFi fits into this.

Here's my plan. I'll travel with my main phone and cheap back up costing around 70 euro.

When mongering in the streets, collecting numbers, using love motels my back up phone comes with me and my main phone stays at my accommodation.

For my back up phone I'll have a local sim and plan and register the phone if need be. I'll also have what's app on it and use maps etc.

Whilst at the Airbnb I'll use my main phone on WiFi to keep in touch with friends family or do my emailing or whatever. If I go on a tour I'll also take it with me to take pictures.

If I need Internet on my main phone outside of the Airbnb I'll use the hot-spot on the back up phone.

Am I missing something regarding MiFi as I like to keep things simple?

Dual SIM phone greatly simplifies international travel.

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2500818]Ok that's interesting, however I'm not getting where the MiFi fits into this.

Here's my plan. I'll travel with my main phone and cheap back up costing around 70 euro.

When mongering in the streets, collecting numbers, using love motels my back up phone comes with me and my main phone stays at my accommodation.

For my back up phone I'll have a local sim and plan and register the phone if need be. I'll also have what's app on it and use maps etc.

Whilst at the Airbnb I'll use my main phone on WiFi to keep in touch with friends family or do my emailing or whatever. If I go on a tour I'll also take it with me to take pictures.

If I need Internet on my main phone outside of the Airbnb I'll use the hot-spot on the back up phone.

Am I missing something regarding MiFi as I like to keep things simple?[/QUOTE]

You are closer to stage 5 now. The move to a centro Airbnb removes one of the obstacles.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2500812]I honestly the taxi drive which is 25-30 mil retired me along with covid. I do like the strip clubs, the fruit markets and other things in the area. So its not a bad place overall. I prefer laureles, castellana, colores, san juan casas. But I might try an airbnb in the centro area though, before I leave..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2500818]Ok that's interesting, however I'm not getting where the MiFi fits into this.

Here's my plan. I'll travel with my main phone and cheap back up costing around 70 euro.

When mongering in the streets, collecting numbers, using love motels my back up phone comes with me and my main phone stays at my accommodation.

For my back up phone I'll have a local sim and plan and register the phone if need be. I'll also have what's app on it and use maps etc.

Whilst at the Airbnb I'll use my main phone on WiFi to keep in touch with friends family or do my emailing or whatever. If I go on a tour I'll also take it with me to take pictures.

If I need Internet on my main phone outside of the Airbnb I'll use the hot-spot on the back up phone.

Am I missing something regarding MiFi as I like to keep things simple?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2500793]There is a very easy solution, which I recommend and which I have done for many years in Colombia and all around the world, until COVID stopped my travels.

1) For local calls, SMS, and for moving around at night in questionable places, buy a traditional old plain GSM phone from any small shop (a brand new Nokia working on American bands costed me 20 k COP some years ago). Buy a disposable prepaid SIM card for it, for few dollars. I did register my GSM phone at a Claro point several years ago, but Mr. Knowledge says that now it is even simpler ([URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2500658&viewfull=1#post2500658[/URL]).
Having this phone will allow you to call anyone also from bad streets or "nidos de perros" without attracting unwanted attention.

2) In Colombia, I would NOT suggest to put a local SIM card in your personal phone, and for a variety of reasons:
- you need to register your phone, or it will be be blocked in a few days (once blocked, you cannot go back);
- unless you have a dual SIM, you will have to give your Colombia number to your relatives and work colleagues in your country to be contacted during your travel (do they know you are in Colombia?).
If you keep your SIM in your phone, your phone will NOT have to be registered in Colombia: it will work in roaming. Disable data roaming to not be overcharged, and connect to wifi for all data applications. Your family and work colleagues might not even know you are in Colombia, as your phone will ring as if you were in your country (there is a pitfall here: if you are out of reach, the recorded message will be from the Colombia operator, reveling where you were before switching off the phone).

3) Buy a 4G mobile Wifi modem (mifi), where you will put the local prepaid cheap SIM. This is a small investment, which will be worth for years of travels anywhere you go in the world.
You will have to register that IMEI, unless you buy it from an operator of your country (in that case, it is preregistered. I have never registered mine, and it was never blocked). Go around (except questionable places where you do not want to have anything of value with you) with your mifi in your pocket. Your personal wifi will be with you and around you at all times. Your phone will be always online, using data from your mifi, but in roaming for voice. The only precaution is to avoid to answer calls, because roaming calls may be expensive, and call back using SkypeOut or WeChatOut, nearly for free.

All this sounds complicated when you read it, but once you do it you will be happy and without hassle for many years of travels.[/QUOTE]Thanks a lot! I have and old phone that I used before I got my current one so I won't be getting a SIM for my new one. I will try getting one for the phone I don't use anymore and register in online then so I can have internet and can call the girls if I need to. I'm heading down tomorrow so I'm pretty excited! I don't like to carry much cash on me when I arrive, has anyone had issues getting cash out of the ATMs at the airport? Or should I exchange some cash and then use the ATMs in the city?

What chica would not want to be seen with me. Lmao

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2500719]Sounds like a very common Paisa hood-rat. Although they have more manners and respect than US pot-obsessed hood-rats, I would not want to live with one for even a day. Be prepared for this possible scenario, she insists that you venture with her into deeply depressed barrios where she can buy weed on the cheap or from her network of friends. When you arrive she instructs you to wait for her, alone, as it is not safe for you to go further. That may be true, or, she just doesn't want to be seen with you in there. Yes, I speak from experience[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2500818]Ok that's interesting, however I'm not getting where the MiFi fits into this.

Here's my plan. I'll travel with my main phone and cheap back up costing around 70 euro.

When mongering in the streets, collecting numbers, using love motels my back up phone comes with me and my main phone stays at my accommodation.

For my back up phone I'll have a local sim and plan and register the phone if need be. I'll also have what's app on it and use maps etc.

Whilst at the Airbnb I'll use my main phone on WiFi to keep in touch with friends family or do my emailing or whatever. If I go on a tour I'll also take it with me to take pictures.

If I need Internet on my main phone outside of the Airbnb I'll use the hot-spot on the back up phone.

Am I missing something regarding MiFi as I like to keep things simple?[/QUOTE]You're not missing anything. I believe when BlackPage set up his communication system most phones didn't have the ability to act as a Wifi hotspot.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2500646]Hit the playground early afternoon today all rested up, feeling like Tony The Tiger, and ready to rape and pillage. However it was kind of slow as it usually is on Sundays and I stumbled upon this chocolate race-horse. A little on the darker side for me, but that wasn't going to stop me as things looked pretty good with the clothes on. During the interview process she was a bit polished saying that she provided good service which usually is a red flag, yet I was dying to see this race-horse from Bogota unwrapped. I decided not to low ball her, and just told her 30 K including a BBBJ. Blakman I know your going to bust my chops for this, but some of us can afford to pay these Chicas an extra 2-3 USD to avoid being called an elbow in Spanish (coto) which is another expression (dicho) for a Cheap Charlie.

Anyways, I took her to a Hotel on the backside of the Church, and the service was a let down, and I should of known better, sometimes the little head prevails. The BBBJ was weak and she was mechanical to say the least. But the visuals are what made me finish, not the interaction I am used to were the Chica is into it wanting to get off. Just another day at the playground with more to follow this week![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Blakman;2500650]Since my suckie ass Washington football team was losing I decided to go get some quick action. I was transforming into a centro rat. 12 mil taxi ride and a little rain arrive. Quick stroll. Notice my victim yesterday asking if I want to go again. Nah today is a new pussy day. Few strolls and as mentioned before little of everything. My eyes spot a big ass older black mid 30's women. Out of all the choices I chose her. Thats when I said dammit blakman you have gone to far. After enjoying the sex I came to the conclusion it was time to retire from el centro. If you study the equation like slapcalculas. Pinky * ex wifey *Double the 3 some. Damn I sound like franky 1 here but keep up with me. Then centro is not much cheaper. Your session are 30 minutes. So price needs to double and tiny hotel rooms considered. Anyways surfer, negro pollen, tall man and other centro patriots. Its all yours.[/QUOTE]Much love and respect to all.

I actually don't post much anymore as it sucks to post a message then it shows up a day or two later when the admin gets around to approving my post, by then the spontaneity of the moment is all but lost.

As I traveled around Colombia for the past few weeks (Bogota and elsewhere) so I have not been in centro for the past almost 3 weeks but sounds like things are going on as normal in centro.

I don't even bother posting my experiences or asking questions on other places as again it takes the admin a day or two to approve my posts but by then any spontaneity is gone.

The beauty of living in Medellin is the vast assortment of venues that we have to find the gems. I have literally hundreds of new chicas that I need to make time to explore. My gawd I only have one dick and just so many hours in a day.

Have fun in centro!

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=BootyBandit84;2500834]... I don't like to carry much cash on me when I arrive, has anyone had issues getting cash out of the ATMs at the airport? Or should I exchange some cash and then use the ATMs in the city?[/QUOTE]All the ATM's should be working now. I haven't tried today, but they were working Saturday after an extended outage. At the airport, after you exit baggage claim, continue walking straight (out the doors on the right are taxis and buses). You will first get to a Bancolombia ATM (which charges a fee), and a little further you will get to a BBVA ATM (which doesn't charge a few). Both are on the right as you are walking away from baggage claim. ATM's at the airport are the same as in the city.

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2500818]Am I missing something regarding MiFi as I like to keep things simple?[/QUOTE]Your plan is ok. Basically you are using your spare lower-cost phone to call AND as wifi hotspot (which is what the mifi is for).

Personally, I prefer to avoid having with me any smartphone if I am in a bad place, because even if cheap it may be interesting for a thief. It is a smartphone. This is to explain why I keep that old GSM.

The mifi is not expected to attract much attention, because it does not look as a phone and not everyone understand what it is and how to use it. The mifi also helps me in all (legitimate) situations when, for example, I sit at a cafe with my laptop and phone, I want to be online, and I am not sure if the local wifi is working, how well is working for me, etc.

In my experience, getting that mifi years ago from my employer was a milestone. I cannot stay without that, anywhere I travel in the world. And I never remove my SIM from my phone. I love this, as whenever I change a SIM I am always afraid to damage in any way the subtle delicate mechanism.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2500863]You're not missing anything. I believe when BlackPage set up his communication system most phones didn't have the ability to act as a Wifi hotspot.[/QUOTE]
Not really. Simply, I do not want to buy a second smartphone just to use it as a hotspot. If at night I roam around Centro streets or San Diego, I would not take with me anything more fancy than a GSM which costed me 20k COP. However, as I wrote above, his plan is fully ok.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2500882]All the ATM's should be working now. I haven't tried today, but they were working Saturday after an extended outage. At the airport, after you exit baggage claim, continue walking straight (out the doors on the right are taxis and buses). You will first get to a Bancolombia ATM (which charges a fee), and a little further you will get to a BBVA ATM (which doesn't charge a few). Both are on the right as you are walking away from baggage claim. ATM's at the airport are the same as in the city.[/QUOTE]Thank's brother, I appreciate the help!

This is one of my GSM phones (for FBI wannabies: yes, this is the European GSM version, not the one I used in Colombia. I have 3 of them).

Low-tier people in Colombia call this model "flecha". Do you know why?

[QUOTE=Blakman;2500805]I differ on your assessment I don't think you have the prior story. I am in Colombia and was with her recently and had an amazing time. Weed is a common use globally so her issue is not an oddity especially with young people. The problem could be more me in that I only smoke a tiny bit of weed prior to sex and look at smoking it otherwise as a weakness or nuisances. I didn't seen signs of a hoodrat. I definitely saw that in the girl afterwards. I did grab a blunt from a taxi driver who gave me his contact so I won't be heading into any barrios. Though I want to do a nightclub / bar in the barrios. It should go down today. The sex and the body was amazing. No kids. Will keep yall posted. I don't discount your assessment. Just doubt it.

Update: She just text me 5:40am in the morning to confirm our meeting. Says shes on her way to work. Maybe shes really a web cam afterall lol

.[/QUOTE]I've been in Colombia since December, about my 10th visit since 2010. I wasn't saying this would happen with you and her. I was just pointing out a scenario to be aware might arise based on my experiences. Its not a horrible thing anyway. All-in-all I enjoyed my time with one of the girls that took me down that road. Its been more than 3 years ago now. Although she has fallen deep into street life, I'm still close friends with her mother. I hope it all goes well.

I mentioned that I wouldn't discount your angle. Two minds often is better than 1. There are moments I think she could be a problem but her demeaner is very calm, educated, just hooked on the wood LOL. Its the loud fast talking aggressive colombians who are the ones to fear LOL

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2500892]I've been in Colombia since December, about my 10th visit since 2010. I wasn't saying this would happen with you and her. I was just pointing out a scenario to be aware might arise based on my experiences. Its not a horrible thing anyway. All-in-all I enjoyed my time with one of the girls that took me down that road. Its been more than 3 years ago now. Although she has fallen deep into street life, I'm still close friends with her mother. I hope it all goes well.[/QUOTE].

Woke up this morning and after breakfast decided to hit the playground, aka ground zero, Calle / Carrea 52, Veracruz Area and showed up at 10 AM. Wow, lots of Chicas out so early in the day all over the place buzzing around looking for clients. For an early morning it almost seemed busier than before the Pandemic. I saw some familiar faces and decided against trying out a new one this morning and ran into one of my regulars and took her upstairs. No drama, and she was hornier than shit screaming and getting very wet at times. Afterwards I hopped in a cab and went to the Aquatic Center at Estado. They have several Olympic Pools there, and I was able to get in a session swimming laps for 45 minutes. What a way to start the day, by 1 PM I had boned a Chica, and gotten in a workout. I'm headed back down to the playground this afternoon to see what kind of mischief I can get into.

But why should I convince someone at the border, a tourist visa is not enough? In the future I plan to find such a woman from Colombia or Venezuela because I can't be there for a long time. Better to look for an amateur on tinder or a working girl for sponsorship?

When asking a girl from gustos, how much to take her back to your place, from what I've seen on the forum it's 200 $(dollars), is this implied to be toda la noche?

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Shaky start. Said she was on her way at 3 pm. Its now 4:30 pm. Not responding to text. Similar occurence first date. Stay tune. Well 2 hours said shes waiting for a taxi lol. I told her not to come.

[QUOTE=MonkyEye;2500973]Hello,

I'm a US visual artist strongly considering an introductory trip to Colombia. I hear the women are hot! I need to make some friends and gather info on just about everything. You know what I mean. First time traveler there and all. Anybody wish to start a dialogue?[/QUOTE]This forum is full of information but you have to read the forum (RTFF) , the forum is based on the concept that people who visit the place posts reports based on their experiences and others can learn from their posts. Of course every thread is convoluted by cross talk, arguing, opinionating, blah blah blah but my point being that you cannot just post a broad question or "open a dialogue". The members of this board visit Colombia to pay for sex with women and that is what is discussed. My advice is to "Read The Fucking Forum" RTFF. There are no shortcuts. You show no record of contributing to any threads on the forum and are not a paid member. So again you need to play catch up. Repeating my self again, this thread is geared toward men who are visiting Colombia to pay women for sex, of course there is collaborative information about visiting like travel, apartments, parting environments etc.

Because there has been a huge interruption in persons visiting Colombia since March of this year, I strongly advise that you start reading about 6 months prior to that or even a year prior to that and read up to March of 2020. Then you will have tons of information and if you have very specific questions you may be able to get a response from there. There are also other threads under User Blog with subjects ranging from Apartments / Hotels, Restaurants, to Living and Retiring in Medellin.

[QUOTE=Mateocast98;2500961]When asking a girl from gustos, how much to take her back to your place, from what I've seen on the forum it's 200 $(dollars), is this implied to be toda la noche?[/QUOTE]Toda la noche is definitely not implied. I'll go further and say that if you just met the girl, even if you explicitly agree on TLN, it's very likely she'll just leave after an hour or two. She'll invent some excuse like her baby's sick and there's nothing you can do to stop her.

Going further, it's always smart to do short test drive w a girl before making a deal for TLN. Unless you already know her (and sometimes even if you do) you have no idea how she's going to be. She could have a stinky pussy, snore loudly, be a lousy fuck, or even drug you.

I don’t know what the going rate is in Gustos. But 200 USD seems ridiculous when you can get a hot looking Facebook chick for 150-200k Pesos. And with a Facebook girl, you have her profile so it’s less likely she does something like drug you or rob you. But it’s your money.

[QUOTE=Mateocast98;2500961]When asking a girl from gustos, how much to take her back to your place, from what I've seen on the forum it's 200 $(dollars), is this implied to be toda la noche?[/QUOTE]I picked up two chicas from Gustos and neither of them got 200 USD. One got 300 k for all night, the other I met the SAME night across the street in another bar and she got 200 k for short time. Both were great.

The 200 USD price tag is for tourists who don't have a clue. Latin American mongering has never been that expensive, ever.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2500992]I picked up two chicas from Gustos and neither of them got 200 USD. One got 300 k for all night, the other I met the SAME night across the street in another bar and she got 200 k for short time. Both were great.

The 200 USD price tag is for tourists who don't have a clue. Latin American mongering has never been that expensive, ever.[/QUOTE]OMG 200K and 300K is very much.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2500992]I picked up two chicas from Gustos and neither of them got 200 USD. One got 300 k for all night, the other I met the SAME night across the street in another bar and she got 200 k for short time. Both were great.

The 200 USD price tag is for tourists who don't have a clue. Latin American mongering has never been that expensive, ever.[/QUOTE]Depends on how you look at it. When the exchange rate for USD was 1600 pesos I would not go anywhere near Fase 2 and La Piscina. If we were talking about you getting a chick from Gustos for 300K in those days it would have come out to almost $200 and 200K $125. If those days come back then woe will be some guys on this board.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2500992]I picked up two chicas from Gustos and neither of them got 200 USD. One got 300 k for all night, the other I met the SAME night across the street in another bar and she got 200 k for short time. Both were great.

The 200 USD price tag is for tourists who don't have a clue. Latin American mongering has never been that expensive, ever.[/QUOTE]If it's wall to wall packed like it use to be pre Covid then 150-200 usd will be the going rate if you have to have them that night. You can always get a few numbers and come back around during the middle of the week.

I would think in these times tho 300 k should do the trick. All depends on the girl. If you're trying to get one of the few 8's or above then it's not likely.

The best strategy is to come back around closing time to see if she has been taken.

But on any normal weekend with a packed club 150-200 usd is the going rate. 200 if you want the top notch girls.

I know many will disagree or say it's stupid but guess what? They get their $$ so they're not going to settle for less unless it's for one of the reasons I mentioned above. And if it's real late there's a good chance you're not even her first client of the night. If that matters to you.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2500992]I picked up two chicas from Gustos and neither of them got 200 USD. One got 300 k for all night, the other I met the SAME night across the street in another bar and she got 200 k for short time. Both were great.

The 200 USD price tag is for tourists who don't have a clue. Latin American mongering has never been that expensive, ever.[/QUOTE]Bravo! Thanks to all who "hold the line".

[QUOTE=Blakman;2500975]Shaky start. Said she was on her way at 3 pm. Its now 4:30 pm. Not responding to text. Similar occurence first date. Stay tune. Well 2 hours said shes waiting for a taxi lol. I told her not to come.[/QUOTE]Okay. You owe me a beer. A cheap one.

[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2500738]I got this message from the operator when I was there and I just ignore it. But I have been there 15 days, then I left. Can I go back with the same phone, and use it again for another two weeks? Maybe with a different SIM, since I doubt I'll be back this year?[/QUOTE]Exactly what I did, came back with the same phone and the phone was blocked in Colombia. Blocked with all carriers. So no Sim card would work. I had to go back to the original company and buy a plan and get the block removed, then I could get the other Sim I had already bought activated and usable. So if it happens (and it may or may not) the block is for the phone no matter what SIM you put in. Easier just to always register it. All they really want is your ID.

If that is a problem just bring a different phone every time you come.

[QUOTE=BootyBandit84;2500689]I had no idea this was a thing. I guess I will just use my regular phone then. I don't a phone plan in a country I might only visit a few weeks a year. Thanks to everyone that helped me out with this, I thought it was going to be super simple like in Mexico.[/QUOTE]I bought a sim from a corner store about 2 years ago. Didn't have to show any ID. I think it cost 5 mil for the SIM. I bought a data and voice plan for another 20 mil. I used it on a cheap phone from the US. It lasted for the 10 I was there. Every time I went back I would add another 20 mil on the number from the Gana store, and that lasts for the trip. Not sure what the complication with it is.

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2500818]Ok that's interesting, however I'm not getting where the MiFi fits into this.

Here's my plan. I'll travel with my main phone and cheap back up costing around 70 euro.

When mongering in the streets, collecting numbers, using love motels my back up phone comes with me and my main phone stays at my accommodation.

For my back up phone I'll have a local sim and plan and register the phone if need be. I'll also have what's app on it and use maps etc.

Whilst at the Airbnb I'll use my main phone on WiFi to keep in touch with friends family or do my emailing or whatever. If I go on a tour I'll also take it with me to take pictures.

If I need Internet on my main phone outside of the Airbnb I'll use the hot-spot on the back up phone.

Am I missing something regarding MiFi as I like to keep things simple?[/QUOTE]All that should work perfectly.

[QUOTE=LeyenLouvain;2500617]If you use a local SIM for more than 30 days without registering it, they will try to block your phone IMEI on the assumption that it's stolen.[/QUOTE]I have a sim from almost 2 years ago. I was always able to recharge on my return. Never got a message to register. But I was never in the country for more than 10 days, so not sure if it had something to do with it.

Just finished with the pre-registration with Migration and now it's just a few hours until I head to the airport. Wasted a day here in Miami, because I originally needed the PCR test when I bought my tickets. Staying at the Holiday Inn Express, which is walking distance to the airport. The extra day gave me a chance to do plenty of walking and to get into vacation mode. It also gave Tropical storm Eta time to move out, so I shouldn't have any delays.

My (alleged) non-pros are excited to pick me up at the airport. By this time tomorrow I should know whether one or more of them is going to be warming my bed. If not, I'm sure I'll find something to do.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2501022]If it's wall to wall packed like it use to be pre Covid then 150-200 usd will be the going rate if you have to have them that night. You can always get a few numbers and come back around during the middle of the week.

I would think in these times tho 300 k should do the trick. All depends on the girl. If you're trying to get one of the few 8's or above then it's not likely.

The best strategy is to come back around closing time to see if she has been taken.

But on any normal weekend with a packed club 150-200 usd is the going rate. 200 if you want the top notch girls.

I know many will disagree or say it's stupid but guess what? They get their $$ so they're not going to settle for less unless it's for one of the reasons I mentioned above. And if it's real late there's a good chance you're not even her first client of the night. If that matters to you.[/QUOTE]Why do you promote paying more on the forum? You state "They get their $$ so they're not going to settle for less".

Of course they won't have to, if mongers give them any price they feel like asking for, in case you don't know the market price of everything is set by the buyers, not the sellers.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2500890]Low-tier people in Colombia call this model "flecha". Do you know why?[/QUOTE]Because it is so old and cheap that forest people from the jungle use that phone.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2501071]Why do you promote paying more on the forum? You state "They get their $$ so they're not going to settle for less".

Of course they won't have to, if mongers give them any price they feel like asking for, in case you don't know the market price of everything is set by the buyers, not the sellers.[/QUOTE]I don't think he is promoting it. He is stating an observation. The top chicks know they will get it. They do the same thing mongers do, find the next target. In Bangkok, some top girls would rather stay on stage than sit with the customer to earn a LD. Why? Because she knows the next customer will be younger and better looking. In high traffic areas, the top girls know they can get what they want from experience and that is why they do it. The price in Bangkok is somewhat standard across the board but usually with limited time. I agree US $200 is a high price to pay and I think that is limited by the number of top girls available and more time. Besides, the cost is relative, US$200 to some people far richer than me is like US$20 in their scale, so why they have to pay by my standard.

So I had to pull the plug on the 8 day agreement. She told she would be at my apartment soon then 2 hours later text to say she's waiting for taxi to come. I told her noooo, don't come. I had to let her know I don't play that shit. She begged and begged the entire evening in which I ignored. During the day someone text me and sent some impressive pics that showed a very nice ass. Turned out to be a tinder girl that had told me she had a boyfriend and just interested in friends. Now a different story. Coincidentall her birthday was coming a day before mine. And we chatted about 3 some. With the rejection of the 8 day dea, I invited this girl over 120 mil 3 HR 2 leche. She was in a taxi right away en route. Young cute face, nice little body, with nice ass. We get in the apartment. Snack on some popcorn, strawberries, cheap wine. She likes my go to music. Dances really well. I join. She's reach for my dick. Definitely not shy. Begins to strip me. Pushes me on the couch and sensually goes to work. Eye contact and everything. Take it to the bedroom and more head. She then takes of her clothes motions me to suck her pussy. She immediately moans, and bunch of que rico. Definitely a talker. I then get a condom stick my dick in and its tight and warm. After missionary, side ways, and doggy. She gets up and bring the hamper over to the brd. I am puzzled. She tells me come to edge of the bed. The music is banging. She sits on my dick while using her hands to balance on the hamper. For about 15 to 25 minutes. She's is literal dancing while my dick is in her. It was amazing. She was a very good performer. Two explosive nut. Performed throughout the 3 hrs. Possibl repeat at less price.
Have to say Surf was right to suggest a test run with the 8th day, jjbee was right it wouldn't last 5 days, frank1 was right with concerns about her job because the hours was getting later and later when revealed. I was right in not wanting to pay so much. Spider maybe right in suggesting she could be a hoodrat because you have to be dumb to mess up on first go around if you need the money. I am still going to sex her again but 8 days is out. 1 or 2 days that's it.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2501008]Depends on how you look at it. When the exchange rate for USD was 1600 pesos I would not go anywhere near Fase 2 and La Piscina. If we were talking about you getting a chick from Gustos for 300K in those days it would have come out to almost $200 and 200K $125. If those days come back then woe will be some guys on this board.[/QUOTE]Amen brother that is how it goes, Years ago, like maybe just over a decade, I made my first trip to Cartagena and had a blast. Then later that same year I went to Thailand, and could not believe how much cheaper pussy was over there compared to Colombia. But times change and Colombia got a little cheaper and Thailand got more expensive.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2501057]Exactly what I did, came back with the same phone and the phone was blocked in Colombia. Blocked with all carriers. So no Sim card would work. I had to go back to the original company and buy a plan and get the block removed, then I could get the other Sim I had already bought activated and usable. So if it happens (and it may or may not) the block is for the phone no matter what SIM you put in. Easier just to always register it. All they really want is your ID.

If that is a problem just bring a different phone every time you come.[/QUOTE]Everybody seems to be making this so complicated about how to maintain a phone in Colombia. Case in point, I have a Colombian cell phone that I registered with Claro four years ago. I lost the phone I had a few times, albeit it was a burner phone and got the same number back after paying like a 3 K fee. Now to the good part, I left Colombia in March and just returned last Saturday, while I was gone, every couple of months while in the USA I would recharge it with about $ 3 USD to maintain it as I believe any phone number in Colombia with no activity for six months is terminated. So upon arriving I fired my Colombian cell up and there were messages showing all my past recharges and a new expiration date of my saldo sometime in January. So one phone, same SIM card should work as long as the phone is registered as you mention.

I have been in El Centro (Veracruz / Botero) area four times since Saturday afternoon, and the following are my observations / thoughts on the current situation.

1. There appears to be more girls working than before the Pandemic and at discounted pricing.

2. The girls are more aggressive in looking for clients than before the Pandemic.

3. There appears to be more younger looking girls working than before the Pandemic.

4. There appears to be more men hanging around than before, not clients, but I suspect boyfriends of the girls working and / or thieves looking for targets.

In my humble opinion, it doesn't get any better than this for El Centro, unfortunately though it is scary being in the middle of a Pandemic.

Perhaps others who have been here since the onset of the Pandemic have comments besides the posts regarding the increased thefts.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2501071]Why do you promote paying more on the forum? You state "They get their $$ so they're not going to settle for less".

Of course they won't have to, if mongers give them any price they feel like asking for, in case you don't know the market price of everything is set by the buyers, not the sellers.[/QUOTE]I'm giving actual facts.

I don't want new guys to read this forum and get misinformation.

There are plenty of BS posts and posters on this forum.

I would never promote paying more.

Hey guys bad news. I requested my account to be canceled but they didn't cancel it yet. So I am still here. Too bad.

I read a girl was 2 hours late.

As you probably know not all Colombians are into the career competitive where time is money. This type of people it's normal to be late. They may think "but everybody is late. " Or they may think their counterpart is unflexible and trying to push them into a hasty agreement.

So if you take your Viagra she doesn't show up try not to be offended and try to understand that for certain groups of people being late is just a part of life. But yeah a lot of you probably know this already.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2500697]Get a vape. [/QUOTE]If you do your research and get a vape you will probably be okay. But just be aware That the following vice documentary talks about how a lot of people ended up in intensive care In the hospitals apparently if I understood correctly for using counterfeit vaper products.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxEAgqkpn1k[/URL]

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[QUOTE=Frank11;2501245]Hey guys bad news. I requested my account to be canceled but they didn't cancel it yet. So I am still here. Too bad.

I read a girl was 2 hours late.

As you probably know not all Colombians are into the career competitive where time is money. This type of people it's normal to be late. They may think "but everybody is late. " Or they may think their counterpart is unflexible and trying to push them into a hasty agreement.

So if you take your Viagra she doesn't show up try not to be offended and try to understand that for certain groups of people being late is just a part of life. But yeah a lot of you probably know this already.[/QUOTE]Relax Frank, stay on the forum, leave the forum, no drama.

No reason to make announcements about it, LOL.

Some of you were talking about weed Obsessed escorts. What else do you know about these types of people? What are the stereotypes?

For example:

-they only feel horny or in the mood for sex after smoking the devils lettuce.

-they can only fall asleep after smoking the devils lettuce.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2501258]Relax Frank, stay on the forum, leave the forum, no drama.

No reason to make announcements about it, LOL.[/QUOTE]I have made some mistakes. There is room for improvement. Everyone has to learn sometime. A lot of posters have made mistake. Maybe my account will be deleted tomorrow anyways. :)

[QUOTE=Frank11;2501262]I have made some mistakes. There is room for improvement. Everyone has to learn sometime.[/QUOTE]Exactamente! Just keep on truckin man! Enjoy Colombia! Medellin! Life!

Hey guys,

Any luck with SA girls in Medellin? What are the current TLN or PPM rates? I don't want to overpay and at the same time offend anyone with low ball offers. What worked very well in CDMX was the following: when a girl asked how much I offer per date, I usually gave her a range, 2200 to 3500 MXN ($100 to $150) depending on her looks and performance and then paid her accordingly after the date was over. If the date was so-so, I just paid $100 or the lowest number from the range we had agreed to, and never repeated. In case it went great and the girl outperformed, paid $150 and repeated multiple times after. I guess that range (shared on this forum by other mongers) was a sweet spot for many, as 80-90% agreed, and only a few were not interested, requesting $300-$400. Since I tried SA, I'm no longer interested in brothels, strip clubs, etc. As SA is a way better experience even though might be more time consuming and expensive. Just trying to figure out what the sweet spot is, in terms of pricing, for tier-1 and tier-2 girls in MDE. Can't wait to come back to this paradise!

Thanks!

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2501064]Just finished with the pre-registration with Migration and now it's just a few hours until I head to the airport. Wasted a day here in Miami, because I originally needed the PCR test when I bought my tickets. Staying at the Holiday Inn Express, which is walking distance to the airport. The extra day gave me a chance to do plenty of walking and to get into vacation mode. It also gave Tropical storm Eta time to move out, so I shouldn't have any delays.

My (alleged) non-pros are excited to pick me up at the airport. By this time tomorrow I should know whether one or more of them is going to be warming my bed. If not, I'm sure I'll find something to do.[/QUOTE]Safe travels JjB!

I'm chillin these days in Brazil, however, I'm looking at Thanksgiving in Medellin.

Look forward to getting re acquainted with my Paisita friends again!

At Surfer500 thanks for the El Centro thoughts, this is valuable intel. At Blakman, I think 2 hours would have been my absolute max also. Time keeping is something I am very fastidious about especially with hookers that I'm paying for. If they can't be bothered to show up on time then what else can they not be bothered about, how is the service likely to be, so I just take my business elsewhere.

Recently I waited 2 hours for a hooker in Dar Es Salaam. Every 30 minutes she kept telling me she was nearly there, although when I binned her off I did feel sorry for her. Although as you mentioned I would be willing to give a second chance.

More bad news gentleman. On the front page of the elpais print edition it says citizens from Argentina Germany Canada Chile France and the Netherlands will be denied entry into Columbia. There are exceptions. In the article says is a reciprocal act. Honestly, this eyeball for an eyeball attitude is not necessary. Why not stand on your own look for forgiveness dialogue and understanding. Plus countries like Canada have taken extra measures against the pandemic that are not all implemented in Colombia. Because Canada is a stronger safety welfare net and more helping government, Although Not to criticize Columbia. Is it really necessary to act like a tough guy? I'm going to include links to pictures of the article. [URL]https://imgur.com/0G1cI0U[/URL] [URL]https://imgur.com/RQoVXdX[/URL].

As a side note someone mentioned there are a lot of BS post. That could be absolutely true. Not to argue, just add to the discussion there are also a lot of posters who are extra critical calling out lies when there is a possibility that is not a lie. And there are some people that have not embraced the possibility that there people with different mind frames opinions values priorities and cultures. Some people just have a different way of acting.

It may be good to consider just let people tell their stories and asked them how and why they accomplish the things. Then we can build up your skills and knowledge through discussion. If we try to shoot down every lie people may begin to withhold their opinions and information.

So far I have only messaged chicas on FB that friended me, and they generally respond. If I message someone that has my friend request pending, what is the response rate? Just curious to see if it is even worth it.

[QUOTE=Frank11;2501323]More bad news gentleman. On the front page of the elpais print edition it says citizens from Argentina Germany Canada Chile France and the Netherlands will be denied entry into Columbia. [/QUOTE]This is not actually going to happen. It was based on a leaked memo and the minister said they are not going to do it.

[QUOTE=Frank11;2501323]More bad news gentleman. On the front page of the elpais print edition it says citizens from Argentina Germany Canada Chile France and the Netherlands will be denied entry into Columbia. There are exceptions. In the article says is a reciprocal act. [URL]https://imgur.com/0G1cI0U[/URL] [URL]https://imgur.com/RQoVXdX[/URL].
.[/QUOTE]Brazil did it to the United States for ages on the basis of reciprocity. Even though the chances were way greater that someone from Brazil would overstay their tourist visa in the USA for purposes of economic migration. Brazil even had a popular TV show called 'America' the description of the show being " a dreamy young woman from the carioca suburbs, attempts to emigrate to the United States, believing in a better life with better opportunities. " I would not consider traveling to Brazil for a long time because I do not live close enough to a Brazilian Consulate to drop off my passport and didn't want to put it in the mail. Then I understood it changed to can be done electronically online and then I read that that changed to visa free entry (in a non Covid time) maybe I will consider visiting in the future.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2501328]This is not actually going to happen. It was based on a leaked memo and the minister said they are not going to do it.[/QUOTE]Here is the article that backs up what YippieKayay is saying, it seems that they actually agree with you Frank11 that "this eyeball for an eyeball is not necessary".

[URL]https://thecitypaperbogota.com/news/foreign-ministry-retracts-recommendation-to-bar-nationals-from-seven-nations/26360[/URL]

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2501334]Brazil did it to the United States for ages on the basis of reciprocity. [/QUOTE]When I entered Cali a couple years ago there was a huge sign with red letters saying Canadians must pay an entry fee established by the Colombian government as Reciprocal. My memory impression was that it was an awful sign written in big capital letters and red color. It just seemed like poor taste. Maybe a complicated issue hopefully there are better ways to deal with the challenges.

[QUOTE=Frank11;2501337]When I entered Cali a couple years ago there was a huge sign with red letters saying Canadians must pay an entry fee established by the Colombian government as Reciprocal. My memory impression was that it was an awful sign written in big capital letters and red color. It just seemed like poor taste. Maybe a complicated issue hopefully there are better ways to deal with the challenges.[/QUOTE]That was dropped May 2019.

I have found some very interesting buildings in Medellin but one of the main beauties of the city for me is the way the sides of the mountains are lit up at night. Medellin is in a long narrow valley and even the lowest income housing in stratas 1-3 have street lights. At night, the whole valley looks like it was sprinkled with white Christmas lights. I was getting ready to settle in the Far East before I found Medellin, either in Cambodia or Viet Nam, maybe still Thailand. Anywho, compared to traveling to the Far East which takes 2 days and a ticket between $2-3000, I can leave the USA and be at my house in Medellin that same afternoon. I have yet to pay over $300 for a one-way ticket, thank you Spirit and Viva airlines. Language? Fergit about learning how to speak an Asian language but I am already a "bronze" medal Spanish speaker mainly from immersion, and maybe a little on-line Duo. After I decided all the holes lined up (pardon the pun) in the Swiss cheese for me, the cherry on top was when I realized pornography and sex toys were illegal in Thailand and these are practically a national past time for the chicas in Colombia. The climate alone and the lush greenness is reason enough to settle in Medellin, along with about ten other non-mongering reasons. Gourmet food is not one of them, if you a foodie then Medellin will disappoint. But if you want to eat healthy, no problem.

I have been to all seven continents and mongered on six of them (I could not find any pay for play in Antartica, but I did get laid there) but for me the journey is over. Medellin is the shit. All my regular girls are all nines (I don't hand out tens) and who cares if my nine is your six? Just proves you have no taste, jajajaja. I don't bother trying to convince others about how great Medellin and my girls are for a couple of main reasons: Life is 90% timing and the timing was right for me, but it might not be for another. And I am not trying to drag as many Americans or foreigners here as possible, I hope they stay away. I am pretty sure I took all the fotos shown. I kinda don't remember taking the foto with the word "Colombia" in the sign, I definitely took the rest.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2501071]Why do you promote paying more on the forum? You state "They get their $$ so they're not going to settle for less".

Of course they won't have to, if mongers give them any price they feel like asking for, in case you don't know the market price of everything is set by the buyers, not the sellers.[/QUOTE]Fundamentally, wrong. Price is set buy a supply and demand equilibrium. Neither by the buyers nor the sellers. Assuming this to be a free-market, which I agree, it is.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2501344]Fundamentally, wrong. Price is set buy a supply and demand equilibrium. Neither by the buyers nor the sellers. Assuming this to be a free-market, which I agree, it is.[/QUOTE]There can be plenty of demand and short supply, if the asking price is too high, it won't sell.

Food and medicine are exceptions to many laws, but overpriced 3rd world putas in gustos are not lmao.

I've seen the utube videos, you couldn't pay me $200 usd to do those fat.

The basic rules of economics do not apply to mongering, you have guys that can never ever get laid anywhere.

They visit a mongering bar and open their wallets.

That is not supply and demand bro, that is an abomination of it.

They pervert every rule of macro and micro economics.

Maybe they feel if they don't give a 3rd world puta everything she asks for she might walk away?

Not rejection again for the 50 trillionth time in the last week ago.

By golly I'm going to get this one, if I have to give her 6 months salary for a Colombian to jack me off with a condom on.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2501340]I have found some very interesting buildings in Medellin but one of the main beauties of the city for me is the way the sides of the mountains are lit up at night. Medellin is in a long narrow valley and even the lowest income housing in stratas 1-3 have street lights. At night, the whole valley looks like it was sprinkled with white Christmas lights. I was getting ready to settle in the Far East before I found Medellin, either in Cambodia or Viet Nam, maybe still Thailand. Anywho, compared to traveling to the Far East which takes 2 days and a ticket between $2-3000, I can leave the USA and be at my house in Medellin that same afternoon. I have yet to pay over $300 for a one-way ticket, thank you Spirit and Viva airlines. Language? Fergit about learning how to speak an Asian language but I am already a "bronze" medal Spanish speaker mainly from immersion, and maybe a little on-line Duo. After I decided all the holes lined up (pardon the pun) in the Swiss cheese for me, the cherry on top was when I realized pornography and sex toys were illegal in Thailand and these are practically a national past time for the chicas in Colombia. The climate alone and the lush greenness is reason enough to settle in Medellin, along with about ten other non-mongering reasons. Gourmet food is not one of them, if you a foodie then Medellin will disappoint. But if you want to eat healthy, no problem.[/QUOTE]Forget about learning how to speak an Asian language but I am already a "bronze" medal Spanish speaker mainly from immersion, and maybe a little on-line Duo. After I decided all the holes lined up (pardon the pun) in the Swiss cheese for me, the cherry on top was when I realized pornography and sex toys were illegal in Thailand.

I don't think needs to learn an Asian language to be a monger / expat in most SEA countries, and sex toys are illegal in Thailand? I was there 2018 and 2019, have you ever walked from Asoke to Soi 4 in BKK?

Its one huge open air dildo shop, porn is illegal? BKK is the most sex saturated place on the planet, at least that I've ever seen, it is quite pornographic.

I had no issues finding porn online either w / o any VPN or anything.

Even the king is a freak, I've walked thru malls all over Deutschland I've never seen anyone dress like that, not even in Berlin.

[URL]https://9now.nine.com.au/60-minutes/thai-king-bizarre-life-protesters-demand-monarchy-reform-60-minutes/1320bcd2-2961-44d1-8d5d-3aa5b1a84bc9[/URL]

SEA is the most sexual place on earth, it drips sexuality 24/7, gay and straight and everything in between, it is saturated will hookers etc etc.

A true modern day Sodom and Gomorrah.

If I win the Powerball I will buy a massive penthouse near Thong Lor BTS, not MDE.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2501224]I have been in El Centro (Veracruz / Botero) area four times since Saturday afternoon, and the following are my observations / thoughts on the current situation.

1. There appears to be more girls working than before the Pandemic and at discounted pricing.

2. The girls are more aggressive in looking for clients than before the Pandemic.

3. There appears to be more younger looking girls working than before the Pandemic.

4. There appears to be more men hanging around than before, not clients, but I suspect boyfriends of the girls working and / or thieves looking for targets.

In my humble opinion, it doesn't get any better than this for El Centro, unfortunately though it is scary being in the middle of a Pandemic.

Perhaps others who have been here since the onset of the Pandemic have comments besides the posts regarding the increased thefts.[/QUOTE]Although there are certainly some gems and enticements currently. My 2 favorite Venezuelans seem to have departed. My take is that the talent in Veracruz was somewhat better in the ramp-up weeks after the total, rigid lock down, than it is now. Coincidently, los colegios were still closed, just sayin' . Las universdades and trade schools too.

The next best thing to riding a wave is riding a Colombian!

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2501344]Fundamentally, wrong. Price is set buy a supply and demand equilibrium. Neither by the buyers nor the sellers. Assuming this to be a free-market, which I agree, it is.[/QUOTE]Uninformed and / or over-eager participants can skew prices in either direction however.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2501071]Why do you promote paying more on the forum? You state "They get their $$ so they're not going to settle for less".

Of course they won't have to, if mongers give them any price they feel like asking for, in case you don't know the market price of everything is set by the buyers, not the sellers.[/QUOTE]You may not know this, but most of the buyers who are paying $200 have never heard of ISG. They jet down for 3 or 4 days, throw lots of money around in Parque Lleras and then go home.

The girls in Parque Lleras, as long as the bars are open, know there's a chance of getting a big payday. Unless they're desperate, like at the end of the night, you can hold the line on price all you want and then go back to your room alone.

My advice is to decide your price range and then pick girls who work in that range.

I have arrived. Because of availability and lack of time, I am staying in Laureles at San Peter apartments. Decent basic place and check-in was quick and easy. Lots of noise from La 70 right now, but it should be quiet by the time I'm ready to sleep.

My non-pros (no longer alleged) picked me up at the airport. They're sisters, 22 and 19. Both are short, 4'11" and 5', just the way I like and they look damned fine to me. They paid to take the tunnel, didn't ask me for any gas money and had some cheap presents for me (which is why they're no longer alleged non-pros). Unfortunately, they might end up chaperoning each other. Will have to wait and see. Meeting them for dinner tomorrow.

Meeting with some friends in the morning to check out some of the Laureles casas. Now, if the rain has stopped, it's time to find a bit of food.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2501382]Uninformed and / or over-eager participants can skew prices in either direction however.[/QUOTE]In a free market with adequate supply what buyers pay have little or no effect on price, as long as supply is continued to be met. And there is no such thing as skewing in this example. If you want to argue there are not enough pussies in Medellin to go around, that would support an argument that paying too much could drive up prices. But that is the least of the issues IMO. I don't see anything even remotely approaching a pussy shortage and in fact when you start to include all the regular girls and non-pros that will put out for convenience, and how fucking easy it is to find pussy with so many channels of distribution (casas, prepagos, on-line, on-street, etc etc.), I would argue there is an oversupply of pussy, if there is such a thing. Of if you want to argue it's not a free market, then you might get a toehold for a valid argument.

However, the argument purported here over and over is that overpaying for pussy drives up the price. Paying higher prices increases demand and therefore would drive more girls into the business which would increase the supply of pussy. If you want to argue for barriers against pussy freely entering the market, that could also be a valid point for driving up prices, but we all know that ain't happening. Once the supply meets the demand, then competition among the pussies drives the price back down until a natural equilibrium is once again reached and an average price point is set. As long as the supply of pussies is elastic (pardon the pun) to the demand of cocks, price will be set by macro economic factors such as inflation, exchange rates, etc. But not by what the Gringo next to you paid last night.

I get it. Guys are fearful of price increases, especially if they are already operating on a thin margin or just naturally a "Cheap Charlie" as the saying goes. But worrying about what the Gringo next to you is paying for pussy is like worrying about what the weather will be like in a month, except in Medellin we know it will always be good.

Anybody who wants it can have the last word on this thread, I respectfully bow out.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2501382]Uninformed and / or over-eager participants can skew prices in either direction however.[/QUOTE]Technically, they don't. The market price equilibrium is defined by all buyers (and the prices they pay) and all sellers (and the prices they fetch). What you mean to say (assuming that everyone's goal was to spend as little as possible) is that the number of uninformed and / or over eager participants in the market can cause prices to have a wider variance, or more specifically, in this case, uninformed and / or over-eager participants would tend to shift prices in one direction (up), not either direction.

Of course, this discussion becomes more nuanced when you begin to consider the universe of motivations that the buyers and sellers may have beyond price.

Sorry, but fairly new here. What does 'SA' mean in regards to this forum?

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2501382]Uninformed and / or over-eager participants can skew prices in either direction however.[/QUOTE]That's if you go to el Centro or use Facebook girls or casas and overpay on a regular basis.

If you're in Lleras on a weekend and the tourists are there like pre Covid then don't expect to pull one of the hotter girls for 2-300 mil is all I'm saying.

The question was about Gustos. And the answer is quite simple. You're going to pay 150-250 USD if it's 10-2 am. If she hasn't been picked up or maybe she's looking for another quick client then yes a better deal can be had.

But from my experiences in Lleras the 8's and above won't budge.

Especially for one of the better looking girls.

This was pre Covid so I won't say it's not flexible as it was before.

Same girl nice body. I told her 2 days and we would go out wednesday to a discoteca. Thats not going to happen. She got the message I was playing around cause she arrived only 30 minutes late. Everything was great, smoked weed. Was very affectionate, took pictures. She took a long ass shower. Came out body sex. Played with her tits, fingered her pussy. She was wet. Hate her pussy. Sh sucked me real good. I mean top of the line head game. Things was good until when it was time to fuck. The deal was to fuck her raw which even after seeing the text of agreement she declined. Anyways condom on we fucking no denying pussy is good. Performance is good. We go through the usually positions and I reach a point that I know I am not going to cum. She sucks me off and says I can cum in her mouth. It did not happen missionary but I was able to jerk my dick off over her face and squirt in mouth and face. She didn't budge. I was well satisfied. Kitchen we She wants food. I got plenty of food in refridgerator. I warm up pizza. She takes a few slices. She's trying to get take out. I am like what you don't understand theres food in the refridgerator. I take out chicken. She said she can cook damn lie. She boiled the chicken. Greater the onions (who does that) then cooked it oil. ***** you took away all the flavor. Most colombians especially black ones I met cannot cook. I have cooked better than 99% of the girls. Anyways does not like her owning cooking because no salt. ***** I am not ruining my 15% body fat for you. She wants takeout. I warm up some sweet potato to add to her meal. She says thk you. We lay in bed after few minutes. Both knockout. Layer I try get me some. She rejects me. Says some spanish shit i do not understand. The entire evening she been speaking spanish without a translater. So annoying. I tell her espanol poquito and she ignores it. Well thats where we are at. I want to tell her day 2 is not going to happen but i dont want to bring a monster out. The latest

[QUOTE=Blakman;2501423]Same girl nice body. I told her 2 days and we would go out wednesday to a discoteca. Thats not going to happen. She got the message I was playing around cause she arrived only 30 minutes late. Everything was great, smoked weed. Was very affectionate, took pictures. She took a long ass shower. Came out body sex. Played with her tits, fingered her pussy. She was wet. Hate her pussy. Sh sucked me real good. I mean top of the line head game. Things was good until when it was time to fuck. The deal was to fuck her raw which even after seeing the text of agreement she declined. Anyways condom on we fucking no denying pussy is good. Performance is good. We go through the usually positions and I reach a point that I know I am not going to cum. She sucks me off and says I can cum in her mouth. It did not happen missionary but I was able to jerk my dick off over her face and squirt in mouth and face. She didn't budge. I was well satisfied. Kitchen we She wants food. I got plenty of food in refridgerator. I warm up pizza. She takes a few slices. She's trying to get take out. I am like what you don't understand theres food in the refridgerator. I take out chicken. She said she can cook damn lie. She boiled the chicken. Greater the onions (who does that) then cooked it oil. ***** you took away all the flavor. Most colombians especially black ones I met cannot cook. I have cooked better than 99% of the girls. Anyways does not like her owning cooking because no salt. ***** I am not ruining my 15% body fat for you. She wants takeout. I warm up some sweet potato to add to her meal. She says thk you. We lay in bed after few minutes. Both knockout. Layer I try get me some. She rejects me. Says some spanish shit i do not understand. The entire evening she been speaking spanish without a translater. So annoying. I tell her espanol poquito and she ignores it. Well thats where we are at. I want to tell her day 2 is not going to happen but i dont want to bring a monster out. The latest[/QUOTE]Kind of a sad tale, perhaps if you had cum in her mouth and she swallowed versus allowing a facial she could of scored some brownie points with you, and the breaking of your BB agreement, being a poor cook, and when you want another round she blows you off. After you kick her to the curb, you need to get your ass back down to El Centro.

You captured it well. I concur with your assessment. With respect to pandemic concerns, at this time there are few places other than Iran or the Amazon region of Brazil where coronavirus is more of a risk than it is in the United States.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2501224]I have been in El Centro (Veracruz / Botero) area four times since Saturday afternoon, and the following are my observations / thoughts on the current situation.

1. There appears to be more girls working than before the Pandemic and at discounted pricing.

2. The girls are more aggressive in looking for clients than before the Pandemic.

3. There appears to be more younger looking girls working than before the Pandemic.

4. There appears to be more men hanging around than before, not clients, but I suspect boyfriends of the girls working and / or thieves looking for targets.

In my humble opinion, it doesn't get any better than this for El Centro, unfortunately though it is scary being in the middle of a Pandemic.

Perhaps others who have been here since the onset of the Pandemic have comments besides the posts regarding the increased thefts.[/QUOTE]

First order of business is to get some breakfast, get some cash and get some supplies for the apartment. After that meeting up with some friends for a Laureles search and destroy mission.

This evening I'll take the sisters to Full Árabe and then maybe to Sexo Sentido to do some shopping.

The "model" is giving off P4 P vibes, but I think she prefers gifts over cash. Still pretty sure she's shopping for a husband. I'll put her off for a few days and see how I feel.

I see Surfer500 got a new tattoo.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2501340]I have found some very interesting ............[/QUOTE]Yippee she does anal!

[QUOTE=Blakman;2501423]Same girl nice body. I told her 2 days and we would go out wednesday to a discoteca. Thats not going to happen. She got the message I was playing around cause she arrived only 30 minutes late. Everything was great, smoked weed. Was very affectionate, took pictures. She took a long ass shower. Came out body sex. Played with her tits, fingered her pussy. She was wet. Hate her pussy. Sh sucked me real good. I mean top of the line head game. Things was good until when it was time to fuck. The deal was to fuck her raw which even after seeing the text of agreement she declined. Anyways condom on we fucking no denying pussy is good. Performance is good. We go through the usually positions and I reach a point that I know I am not going to cum. She sucks me off and says I can cum in her mouth. It did not happen missionary but I was able to jerk my dick off over her face and squirt in mouth and face. She didn't budge. I was well satisfied. Kitchen we She wants food. I got plenty of food in refridgerator. I warm up pizza. She takes a few slices. She's trying to get take out. I am like what you don't understand theres food in the refridgerator. I take out chicken. She said she can cook damn lie. She boiled the chicken. Greater the onions (who does that) then cooked it oil. ***** you took away all the flavor. Most colombians especially black ones I met cannot cook. I have cooked better than 99% of the girls. Anyways does not like her owning cooking because no salt. ***** I am not ruining my 15% body fat for you. She wants takeout. I warm up some sweet potato to add to her meal. She says thk you. We lay in bed after few minutes. Both knockout. Layer I try get me some. She rejects me. Says some spanish shit i do not understand. The entire evening she been speaking spanish without a translater. So annoying. I tell her espanol poquito and she ignores it. Well thats where we are at. I want to tell her day 2 is not going to happen but i dont want to bring a monster out. The latest[/QUOTE]I ditto that about these barrio bitches, but we love them.

Dime a dozen these girls but so much damn fun when you find one that has a great attitude and is a sweetheart. Just in the past week have had 2 new barrio bitches that were so good I brought back to my apartment for the night (different nights different chica), and these two are good friends so in order to alleviate any potential drama we all are keeping secrets, hehehehe it adds to the fun.

And in my experience none of them can cook, and if you let them try these bitches are the messiest things on the earth.

The Tall Man.

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[QUOTE=MMHikeus;2501324]So far I have only messaged chicas on FB that friended me, and they generally respond. If I message someone that has my friend request pending, what is the response rate? Just curious to see if it is even worth it.[/QUOTE]The rate of respond varies but I can tell you I have messaged about 12 FB chicas and about halve of them messaged me back. Two were scams trying to get me to send them money and I blocked them. The other four I have given me their Whatsapp and I will be trying to set up dates for in the next few days. I will point out that I'm latino and speak fluent Spanish so that might helped me with it. I would just send a generic opening greeting and see if they respond. I usually send something like Hola hermosa and see if they ignore me or not. I also try to message the girls I see are active or have recently posted something. Hope this helps! And good luck.

Hola Hermosa! Is not going to give you high rate of responses. If you know when or if you are there now tell them that. They will respond. Too many guys sending messages just to add the girls to their list can be annoying and looked upon as a waste of time for some of them. I generally get responses back when I give them my availability. The ones that don't usually are not around. Even those will respond hoping you are still there.

[QUOTE=BootyBandit84;2501495]The rate of respond varies but I can tell you I have messaged about 12 FB chicas and about halve of them messaged me back. Two were scams trying to get me to send them money and I blocked them. The other four I have given me their Whatsapp and I will be trying to set up dates for in the next few days. I will point out that I'm latino and speak fluent Spanish so that might helped me with it. I would just send a generic opening greeting and see if they respond. I usually send something like Hola hermosa and see if they ignore me or not. I also try to message the girls I see are active or have recently posted something. Hope this helps! And good luck.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2501501]Hola Hermosa! Is not going to give you high rate of responses. If you know when or if you are there now tell them that. They will respond. Too many guys sending messages just to add the girls to their list can be annoying and looked upon as a waste of time for some of them. I generally get responses back when I give them my availability.[/QUOTE]Or just send them a message asking when they are available. That is why there is no need to start this weeks in advance. It seems a lot of guys don't understand how many messages these chicks get. It is best to forget the small talk and cut to the chase. I know some guys enjoy the fantasy of getting a "normal" girl, but remember they are hookers trying to do business. They are not there in hopes of making friends and exchanging pleasantries.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2501423]The entire evening she been speaking spanish without a translater. So annoying. I tell her espanol poquito and she ignores it. Well thats where we are at. I want to tell her day 2 is not going to happen but i dont want to bring a monster out. The latest[/QUOTE]Blakman I'm enjoying reading all your posts and I got a strong impression that you spoke a high level of Spanish especially as you were considering 8 days with a chica as well as all of your various adventures around El Centro etc, so I was surprised and a little bit relieved to hear about the translator issue. The main reason I'm a little relieved is that it gives me a little hope for when I arrive in Jan. I really don't know how to describe my level of Spanish, but I suppose it just words and phrases at the moment although I did quite a bit of study a number of years ago. Anyway before my trip I plan to do some intensive study for around a month. Would you be able to give a little more info on your level of Spanish just to add some context to your reports. Thanks.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2501264]Hey guys,

Any luck with SA girls in Medellin? What are the current TLN or PPM rates[/QUOTE]In seeking there are a lot of 5 sixes and sevens. If you think these normal range girls are beautiful then you will be happy. These girls probably find it hard to get more than 100,000 to 200,000 per meeting.

There are a handful of gems. These are eights nines and tens. These girls can get 300,000 to 500,000 for 3 hours or more. And 8. 5 Agreed to 300,000 for 3 hours but stayed 4 hours. The hottest girl I talked to walked out on the negotiation for 300,000. She came back after receiving a 750,000 offer for the 1st date only. This girl has what it takes to earn her money. 2nd date should be between 300,000 and 500,000. It sucks to pay so much but there are no other 10. No alternative deal. I found a 9 and she agreed 1st date 800,000 2nd date 400,000. I don't think she deserves so much. I think the 9 would've agreed two dates each 400,000.

the least I would offer to really hot girl on seeking would be 240,000 for 2 hours. And hopefully she's nearby for the taxi will be an additional expense. I don't know if she will accept 240,000.

there was a hot skinny girl and 8 who said she didn't want 300,000 and that she wanted 500,000. I don't think she was worth more than 300,000. She agreed to 400,000. The date never happened. I think she wanted tto move overseas so maybe that is why she was money hungry. anyways since I think these girls are not worth it, I can just keep my money and be happy. But you will findd some good woman.

I can write spanish better than speak it. And I cannot understand when they speak its just too fast. But.

Do not despair money and sex is an universal language.

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2501512]Blakman I'm enjoying reading all your posts and I got a strong impression that you spoke a high level of Spanish especially as you were considering 8 days with a chica as well as all of your various adventures around El Centro etc, so I was surprised and a little bit relieved to hear about the translator issue. The main reason I'm a little relieved is that it gives me a little hope for when I arrive in Jan. I really don't know how to describe my level of Spanish, but I suppose it just words and phrases at the moment although I did quite a bit of study a number of years ago. Anyway before my trip I plan to do some intensive study for around a month. Would you be able to give a little more info on your level of Spanish just to add some context to your reports. Thanks.[/QUOTE].

So she wakes up gets dress for work. I decide to give her 150 mil just to get out of day 2. She goes outside smoke some weed. Comes back says she's sorry. She got upset that I yelled at her but she really likes and wants to stay tonight. We can have raw sex all night. If I come were she works we can have lunch and she will pay for it. Unbuttons my pants. Starts being aggressively affection and says she can cancel didi and we fuck now if I cum quick. And let her leave her stuff to come back tonight. So we go in the bedroom and I fuck her raw. Pussy is so tight til it gets wet. I fuck for about 10 minutes and explode on her titties. Now I am thinking shady. 2 nuts in 14 hrs aint bad at 150 mil. Let me try renege and get her stuff out the apartment and out of the building. I accomplish both but when she notice I was trying to put the bag in the taxi. She wasnt having it. I made couple offers for her to go but. Didn't happen. I knew I was wrong so I allowed her back in the apartment. She agreed to sleep til 2 pm and leave so that's still a win. But if she request the other half of the money without sex then we got problems. My update LOL By the way Surfer, technical what is centro call. City or county for airbnb possibilities

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2501430]Kind of a sad tale, perhaps if you had cum in her mouth and she swallowed versus allowing a facial she could of scored some brownie points with you, and the breaking of your BB agreement, being a poor cook, and when you want another round she blows you off. After you kick her to the curb, you need to get your ass back down to El Centro.[/QUOTE].

Second best to sex on the beach is sex on the Terraza.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2501465]First order of business is to get some breakfast, get some cash and get some supplies for the apartment. After that meeting up with some friends for a Laureles search and destroy mission.

This evening I'll take the sisters to Full rabe and then maybe to Sexo Sentido to do some shopping.

The "model" is giving off P4 P vibes, but I think she prefers gifts over cash. Still pretty sure she's shopping for a husband. I'll put her off for a few days and see how I feel.

I see Surfer500 got a new tattoo.[/QUOTE]You seem to be off to a very slow start, I was in El Centro banging within two hours of arriving and your making arrangements to romance sisters and a model. You need to get down to business, and start posting about all the barebacking and loads you've blown since arriving, not about all your wining and dining plans, LOL.

And I'm glad you like my new Tat!

[QUOTE=Blakman;2501527]So she wakes up gets dress for work. I decide to give her 150 mil just to get out of day 2. She goes outside smoke some weed. Comes back says she's sorry. She got upset that I yelled at her but she really likes and wants to stay tonight. We can have raw sex all night. If I come were she works we can have lunch and she will pay for it. Unbuttons my pants. Starts being aggressively affection and says she can cancel didi and we fuck now if I cum quick. And let her leave her stuff to come back tonight. So we go in the bedroom and I fuck her raw. Pussy is so tight til it gets wet. I fuck for about 10 minutes and explode on her titties. Now I am thinking shady. 2 nuts in 14 hrs aint bad at 150 mil. Let me try renege and get her stuff out the apartment and out of the building. I accomplish both but when she notice I was trying to put the bag in the taxi. She wasnt having it. I made couple offers for her to go but. Didn't happen. I knew I was wrong so I allowed her back in the apartment. She agreed to sleep til 2 pm and leave so that's still a win. But if she request the other half of the money without sex then we got problems. My update LOL By the way Surfer, technical what is centro call. City or county for airbnb possibilities.[/QUOTE]El Centro calling is the little voice you've been hearing, calling you back to El Centro to earn a whisker by banging either a pregnant or deaf mute chica.

And don't take this the wrong way, but you seem to kind of have a a love / hate relationship with your Chicas.

I'm going to have to assume based on your update that your little head did the thinking in allowing her back in the apartment so you could hit that tight / wet pussy again, I know my little head would be thinking like that!

Check your private message Blakman.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2501527]So she wakes up gets dress for work. I decide to give her 150 mil just to get out of day 2. She goes outside smoke some weed. Comes back says she's sorry. She got upset that I yelled at her but she really likes and wants to stay tonight. We can have raw sex all night. If I come were she works we can have lunch and she will pay for it. Unbuttons my pants. Starts being aggressively affection and says she can cancel didi and we fuck now if I cum quick. And let her leave her stuff to come back tonight. So we go in the bedroom and I fuck her raw. Pussy is so tight til it gets wet. I fuck for about 10 minutes and explode on her titties. Now I am thinking shady. 2 nuts in 14 hrs aint bad at 150 mil. Let me try renege and get her stuff out the apartment and out of the building. I accomplish both but when she notice I was trying to put the bag in the taxi. She wasnt having it. I made couple offers for her to go but. Didn't happen. I knew I was wrong so I allowed her back in the apartment. She agreed to sleep til 2 pm and leave so that's still a win. But if she request the other half of the money without sex then we got problems. My update LOL By the way Surfer, technical what is centro call. City or county for airbnb possibilities.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2501371]Forget about learning how to speak an Asian language but I am already a "bronze" medal Spanish speaker mainly from immersion, and maybe a little on-line Duo. After I decided all the holes lined up (pardon the pun) in the Swiss cheese for me, the cherry on top was when I realized pornography and sex toys were illegal in Thailand.

I don't think needs to learn an Asian language to be a monger / expat in most SEA countries, and sex toys are illegal in Thailand? I was there 2018 and 2019, have you ever walked from Asoke to Soi 4 in BKK?

Its one huge open air dildo shop, porn is illegal? BKK is the most sex saturated place on the planet, at least that I've ever seen, it is quite pornographic.

I had no issues finding porn online either w / o any VPN or anything.

Even the king is a freak, I've walked thru malls all over Deutschland I've never seen anyone dress like that, not even in Berlin..[/QUOTE]Check your facts. Pornography (and sex toys) are illegal in Thailand. My point was not whether or not you can find porno in Thailand, but that attitudes and mores in Thailand about porno versus Colombia were very different, at least from their respective government's viewpoints. Traveling to Thailand with porn loaded on your computer is a risk I won't take. And thank you for also supporting my point (amazing the number of posts that intend to provide a counterpoint but actually end end up supporting the point) to rank other places higher than Medellin for sexual adventures, if you could. That would be the main point I was trying to make, maybe my writing was not up to the task. To each his own and what is heaven to one guy might be purgatory to another. If Thailand did a complete reversal on these laws in the last year I then I could be wrong but I would expect that to pop up in a Google search, which I did.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2501546]Check your facts. Pornography (and sex toys) are illegal in Thailand. My point was not whether or not you can find porno in Thailand, but that attitudes and mores in Thailand about porno versus Colombia were very different, at least from their respective government's viewpoints. Traveling to Thailand with porn loaded on your computer is a risk I won't take. And thank you for also supporting my point (amazing the number of posts that intend to provide a counterpoint but actually end end up supporting the point) to rank other places higher than Medellin for sexual adventures, if you could. That would be the main point I was trying to make, maybe my writing was not up to the task. To each his own and what is heaven to one guy might be purgatory to another. If Thailand did a complete reversal on these laws in the last year I then I could be wrong but I would expect that to pop up in a Google search, which I did.[/QUOTE]You sound really confused, go to BKK and show me a bldg that won't let you bring in guests 24/7 unlike all the girl unfriendly ones I hear about in MDE.

Your last few posts about Asia and mongering economics show you know don't know much about either.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2501534]You seem to be off to a very slow start, I was in El Centro banging within two hours of arriving and your making arrangements to romance sisters and a model. [/QUOTE]I was wondering the same thing with all the sex videos he raved about being sent to him by so many non-pros.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2501546]Check your facts. Pornography (and sex toys) are illegal in Thailand. My point was not whether or not you can find porno in Thailand, but that attitudes and mores in Thailand about porno versus Colombia were very different, at least from their respective government's viewpoints. Traveling to Thailand with porn loaded on your computer is a risk I won't take. [/QUOTE]What kind of risk is that? I have been living in Thailand 12 years and do not know anyone that has been at risk by having porn. Shit most of the hookers learn the stuff they do by studying porn. 19 times out of 20 you just walk out of customs without having to put your bag through the xray. Nobody gives a shit about what is on your computer. Besides that, you could just download it when you arrive. From the government's perspective there is no prostitution in Pattaya, but even Ray Charles could see there is and he is not only blind, but dead. You are being paranoid about nothing.

[QUOTE=Frank11;2501525]In seeking there are a lot of 5 sixes and sevens. If you think these normal range girls are beautiful then you will be happy. These girls probably find it hard to get more than 100,000 to 200,000 per meeting.

There are a handful of gems. These are eights nines and tens. These girls can get 300,000 to 500,000 for 3 hours or more. And 8. 5 Agreed to 300,000 for 3 hours but stayed 4 hours. The hottest girl I talked to walked out on the negotiation for 300,000. She came back after receiving a 750,000 offer for the 1st date only. This girl has what it takes to earn her money. 2nd date should be between 300,000 and 500,000. It sucks to pay so much but there are no other 10. No alternative deal. I found a 9 and she agreed 1st date 800,000 2nd date 400,000. I don't think she deserves so much. I think the 9 would've agreed two dates each 400,000.

the least I would offer to really hot girl on seeking would be 240,000 for 2 hours. And hopefully she's nearby for the taxi will be an additional expense. I don't know if she will accept 240,000.

there was a hot skinny girl and 8 who said she didn't want 300,000 and that she wanted 500,000. I don't think she was worth more than 300,000. She agreed to 400,000. The date never happened. I think she wanted tto move overseas so maybe that is why she was money hungry. anyways since I think these girls are not worth it, I can just keep my money and be happy. But you will findd some good woman.[/QUOTE]Do you always negotiate the length of your dates? Or do girls just tell you how many hours they are willing to spend with you for $X? I have only used SA in CDMX, and never discussed how long a date would last, simply because I don't want to have any time constraints, that's the whole point of meeting girls from SA in my opinion. Just normal dates. Dinner, maybe drinks after, then some fun at my place, no rush. On average my dates would last 5-7 hours or so, from start to finish, sometimes TLN. This is not only about sex, I also enjoy a good conversation, drinking, flirting, dancing etc. A good dinner itself could easily last 2 hrs.

300,000 to 500,000 sounds reasonable to me if a girl stays until I kick her out or until we both agree to call it a night, but 2-3 hrs won't cut it.

[QUOTE=OmahaGreg;2501406]Sorry, but fairly new here. What does 'SA' mean in regards to this forum?[/QUOTE]Seeking [URL]arrangements.com[/URL] There is a lot written about it in the Colombian forums. Also a dedicated forum under "Dating Agencies".

I've used SA with great success over the last 3 years in the US & used it to meet several women overseas for mini-vacations.

Basically it's using your economic status to date out of your weight class. I'd say 50% of the girls from 18 to 27 have a daddy fetish & are into older men in their 40's to mid 50's. My current SB is a solid 8, anime model, & has a fans only account where she sells videos. Dates are usually about 4 hours long, it's usually dinner, drinks, sex, smoke up, & sex. I'm in Atlanta & it's usually $200 to $300 ppm, sex is bare with cip or CIM.

For the overseas women I met up with, both were early 30's from eastern europe, solid 9's, & both wanted something long term. I was going to meet up with the one girl again this year but Covid fucked it up.

Because of SA, I doubt I will ever get married again due to the easy supply of women in their 20's. It's way cheaper than being married & much less drama. The only cavet would be if I found a smoking hot early 30's girl who is a solid 9 or above & is content with being a good submissive housewife, dedicating herself to yoga & taking care of the household.

Totally agree with you. The vast majority will answer you once you are there. I don't blame them for not responding to messages like 'Hello, I can't blame them for that

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2501503]Or just send them a message asking when they are available. That is why there is no need to start this weeks in advance. It seems a lot of guys don't understand how many messages these chicks get. It is best to forget the small talk and cut to the chase. I know some guys enjoy the fantasy of getting a "normal" girl, but remember they are hookers trying to do business. They are not there in hopes of making friends and exchanging pleasantries.[/QUOTE].

Sup all, I've been in Medellin for the past week, and have done a whirlwind tour of a few of strip clubs and casas. Highlights so far include Luna lunera and energy spa. Highly recommended.

Anyone around this weekend want to get together and visit a couple spots in the evening? Particularly wanting to check out la Islas and Gustos. Down to split a bottle, hang out and scope the talent.

30 M from the US. PM me.

These are the travails of a conflicted Centro rat.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2501538]El Centro calling is the little voice you've been hearing, calling you back to El Centro to earn a whisker by banging either a pregnant or deaf mute chica.

And don't take this the wrong way, but you seem to kind of have a a love / hate relationship with your Chicas.

I'm going to have to assume based on your update that your little head did the thinking in allowing her back in the apartment so you could hit that tight / wet pussy again, I know my little head would be thinking like that![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2501557]What kind of risk is that? I have been living in Thailand 12 years and do not know anyone that has been at risk by having porn. Shit most of the hookers learn the stuff they do by studying porn. 19 times out of 20 you just walk out of customs without having to put your bag through the xray. Nobody gives a shit about what is on your computer. Besides that, you could just download it when you arrive. From the government's perspective there is no prostitution in Pattaya, but even Ray Charles could see there is and he is not only blind, but dead. You are being paranoid about nothing.[/QUOTE]And I only visited for a couple of months. But on matters of fact, pornography is illegal in Thailand. My main point was I gave that issue a plus to Medellin as a culture that seems to embrace porn. To me personally, it has little or no effect. There are spotty stories in the Internet for foreigners being busted for porn in Thailand. More like, if you got into trouble for something else, and they confiscated your computer with porn, it would be another charge they could throw at you. And my personal experience with the working girls in Bangkok and Pattaya, is they did not want anything to do with it. Really, it's more of an oddity because I think most mongers who would visit Thailand would be surprised to know those laws are on the books. No matter how low the risk, you don't want to be the one they decide to enforce them upon.

I've used Truvada.

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I dearly paid for this decision. Everybody will love and be warned about this story. Slapshot is going to have a big laugh and Spider rider is going to say told you so. After I let her in she says she's going to sleep and head to work. I said no sex no pay. She said okay. 2 pm comes she ask for money I say no. She ask to go outside smoke weed. Then she talks to security about police. I tell security I will settle this. I get change to give her money to go. Policia arrives. They allow her to hide the previous money I gave. They find tussi and weed in her purse. I am like she is the bad person, I am the victim. She says that I forced her to buy drugs. But it seems like they are coaching her what to say. They ask to come to a solution. I decide to give her the balance. She says no. They want to get in my apartment. I see where its heading but I am hoping honesty prevail. In the apartment the have 4 blunts and tussi spread out on my kitchen table. I tell them not mines not mines. They press on getting to a solution. She request the full money though I paid half already and she did nothing for 2nd half. Or else go down to station. Officer says pay the money and we will deal with her. I reluctantly pay the money. They then try to let her leave while drugs on my table. I say no no no no. Take the drugs they not mines. She then trys to translate to me to pay the officers. I stay far from her. I open up the door and direct them to leave cause problem has been resolved with my payment. They pick up the weed and tussi and ask if I want to do anything to keep the drugs. I say I don't do drugs. Lets leave. When they walk down the stairs. They tell me Colombia has very bad girls be very careful. They left out bad cops as well. So that's the whole story and nothing but the truth LOL

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2501538]El Centro calling is the little voice you've been hearing, calling you back to El Centro to earn a whisker by banging either a pregnant or deaf mute chica.

And don't take this the wrong way, but you seem to kind of have a a love / hate relationship with your Chicas.

I'm going to have to assume based on your update that your little head did the thinking in allowing her back in the apartment so you could hit that tight / wet pussy again, I know my little head would be thinking like that![/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Blakman;2501591]I dearly paid for this decision. Everybody will love and be warned about this story. Slapshot is going to have a big laugh and Spider rider is going to say told you so. After I let her in she says she's going to sleep and head to work. I said no sex no pay. She said okay. 2 pm comes she ask for money I say no. She ask to go outside smoke weed. Then she talks to security about police. I tell security I will settle this. I get change to give her money to go. Policia arrives. They allow her to hide the previous money I gave. They find tussi and weed in her purse. I am like she is the bad person, I am the victim. She says that I forced her to buy drugs. But it seems like they are coaching her what to say. They ask to come to a solution. I decide to give her the balance. She says no. They want to get in my apartment. I see where its heading but I am hoping honesty prevail. In the apartment the have 4 blunts and tussi spread out on my kitchen table. I tell them not mines not mines. They press on getting to a solution. She request the full money though I paid half already and she did nothing for 2nd half. Or else go down to station. Officer says pay the money and we will deal with her. I reluctantly pay the money. They then try to let her leave while drugs on my table. I say no no no no. Take the drugs they not mines. She then trys to translate to me to pay the officers. I stay far from her. I open up the door and direct them to leave cause problem has been resolved with my payment. They pick up the weed and tussi and ask if I want to do anything to keep the drugs. I say I don't do drugs. Lets leave. When they walk down the stairs. They tell me Colombia has very bad girls be very careful. They left out bad cops as well. So that's the whole story and nothing but the truth LOL

.[/QUOTE]I'd imagine most guys who have been here more than a quick trip have a similar story. I can remember one of mine with a 2 vs 2 and a girl crying, threatening to call the cops, because the amount we agreed upon was for both, but they though was for each of them. Anyway, you made it out alive and didn't even need a hospital bracelet! Looking forward to the next Centro update, where the girls a more professional, pure, and cost-effective...

Fun fact: every time you have belabored a long-term deal, it's been a bust. Everything happens in threes. Next up, come onnnnn dooooowwwwnnnnn... it's Luisa, from Robledo!

Hey everyone! Just had my first Facebook chica experience and it was pretty great. Messaged her this morning on FB and she hit me up pretty quickly. Got her Whatsapp and we talked shop. She asked for 250 mil and I hit back with 150 mi. We met in the middle with 178 mil which is a really random number for me but I guess it included the ride here. She is a young thin, darker skin Paisa spinner. Lots of deep passionate kissing and a long skilled bbj with plenty of deep throat action. I will likely repeat but will try to talk her into accepting 150 next time, after all the extra 28 mil will ad up quickly after a few sessions haha.

I have another FB chica set up for later tonight, we'll see how that one goes.

I think the long term with 8 was good, wasnt a bust. We saw each other this trip and still keep in contact. This was a bust for sure. Do you know the ***** text me and said I really was hoping to have a good time with you. Gimmie my money back then talk to me LOL

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2501594]I'd imagine most guys who have been here more than a quick trip have a similar story. I can remember one of mine with a 2 vs 2 and a girl crying, threatening to call the cops, because the amount we agreed upon was for both, but they though was for each of them. Anyway, you made it out alive and didn't even need a hospital bracelet! Looking forward to the next Centro update, where the girls a more professional, pure, and cost-effective...

Fun fact: every time you have belabored a long-term deal, it's been a bust. Everything happens in threes. Next up, come onnnnn dooooowwwwnnnnn... it's Luisa, from Robledo![/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Blakman;2501591]She request the full money though I paid half already and she did nothing for 2nd half. Or else go down to station. Officer says pay the money and we will deal with her. I reluctantly pay the money. They then try to let her leave while drugs on my table. I say no no no no. Take the drugs they not mines. She then trys to translate to me to pay the officers. I stay far from her. I open up the door and direct them to leave cause problem has been resolved with my payment. They pick up the weed and tussi and ask if I want to do anything to keep the drugs. I say I don't do drugs. Lets leave. When they walk down the stairs. They tell me Colombia has very bad girls be very careful. They left out bad cops as well. So that's the whole story and nothing but the truth LOL.[/QUOTE]Wow that's completely messed up. The problem is showing any type of compassion or weakness with hookers, as you said you let her back in the apartment. Very long story short, a Thai chick I was seeing goes completely nuts in my apartment because I don't want to marry her. She trashes the place and injures herself. After the police are called and I finally get her to leave I feel sorry for her and go to her room just to check she is ok from her injuries even though she caused a huge problem, well big mistake she goes even more berserk and the problem is 100 times worse.

Where did you meet this girl? Where were you staying? This is pretty wild what happened to you

[QUOTE=Blakman;2501591]I dearly paid for this decision. Everybody will love and be warned about this story. Slapshot is going to have a big laugh and Spider rider is going to say told you so. After I let her in she says she's going to sleep and head to work. I said no sex no pay. She said okay. 2 pm comes she ask for money I say no. She ask to go outside smoke weed. Then she talks to security about police. I tell security I will settle this. I get change to give her money to go. Policia arrives. They allow her to hide the previous money I gave. They find tussi and weed in her purse. I am like she is the bad person, I am the victim. She says that I forced her to buy drugs. But it seems like they are coaching her what to say. They ask to come to a solution. I decide to give her the balance. She says no. They want to get in my apartment. I see where its heading but I am hoping honesty prevail. In the apartment the have 4 blunts and tussi spread out on my kitchen table. I tell them not mines not mines. They press on getting to a solution. She request the full money though I paid half already and she did nothing for 2nd half. Or else go down to station. Officer says pay the money and we will deal with her. I reluctantly pay the money. They then try to let her leave while drugs on my table. I say no no no no. Take the drugs they not mines. She then trys to translate to me to pay the officers. I stay far from her. I open up the door and direct them to leave cause problem has been resolved with my payment. They pick up the weed and tussi and ask if I want to do anything to keep the drugs. I say I don't do drugs. Lets leave. When they walk down the stairs. They tell me Colombia has very bad girls be very careful. They left out bad cops as well. So that's the whole story and nothing but the truth LOL

.[/QUOTE].

I am not sure if I did it to myself. Can you believe she is trying to text me saying she really wanted to have a good time with me. She might be trying to get me to threaten her. Extort more money from me.

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2501604]Where did you meet this girl? Where were you staying? This is pretty wild what happened to you

.[/QUOTE].

Definitely a correlation

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2501600]Wow that's completely messed up. The problem is showing any type of compassion or weakness with hookers, as you said you let her back in the apartment. Very long story short, a Thai chick I was seeing goes completely nuts in my apartment because I don't want to marry her. She trashes the place and injures herself. After the police are called and I finally get her to leave I feel sorry for her and go to her room just to check she is ok from her injuries even though she caused a huge problem, well big mistake she goes even more berserk and the problem is 100 times worse.[/QUOTE].

I've only had one issue with cops traveling to Latin American countries.

Girl tried to walk out with my $$ without even doing anything. Luckily I stopped her.

She went downstairs to the front desk and called the cops.

When the cops arrived I told the cops what had happened but I would gladly give them the $$ if they cuffed the girls and threatened to take them to jail for trying to rob me.

While I still lost out on the $$, a situation like this is unavoidable to not lose $$.

So I just gave it to the cops to make the girls feel real dumb.

Its kind a tricky whichever way you handle it. Like you said sometimes unavoidable. My last trip I won won won.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2501607]I've only had one issue with cops traveling to Latin American countries.

Girl tried to walk out with my $$ without even doing anything. Luckily I stopped her.

She went downstairs to the front desk and called the cops.

When the cops arrived I told the cops what had happened but I would gladly give them the $$ if they cuffed the girls and threatened to take them to jail for trying to rob me.

While I still lost out on the $$, a situation like this is unavoidable to not lose $$.

So I just gave it to the cops to make the girls feel real dumb.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2501534]You seem to be off to a very slow start, I was in El Centro banging within two hours of arriving and your making arrangements to romance sisters and a model. You need to get down to business, and start posting about all the barebacking and loads you've blown since arriving, not about all your wining and dining plans, LOL.

And I'm glad you like my new Tat![/QUOTE]Cut me some slack. I'm old.

By the time I got into the apartment it was 9 pm, and 5 minutes later the storm hit. Had a buddy ask if I wanted to meet up at Maracaibo, but I didn't feel like venturing out in the rain.

Met up with the buddy and 2 other guys this morning after I did some shopping. Should have grabbed a taxi, or taken the metro up to Floresta. Ended up walking from Estadio to near Carrera 80 and Calle 33. Checked out Eros Spa there, Carrera 81 A #34 A-15. Sign says it's an aparthotel. Go in, go up one flight, door on the right. About 10 girls were there. A couple looked good enough, but they all looked bored. Ad on Photoprepagos said 70 k for 1 hour, but the girl said 60 k. Decent enough in a pinch, but nobody was feeling it. Now the bad part. They wanted 10 k each guy for the lineup.

Found a decent restaurant to check out, but expensive. Casablanca, Carrera 80 and Calle 34. It's a butcher shop and restaurant. Provenza prices.

Headed down Calle 33, but the addresses one guy had were both closed. In the end, me and my buddy went to Energy. About 10 girls in the lineup, but not much enthusiasm. We both made our selections and paid the 140 k for the hour. Both were happy with our choices.

Walked down the street a block and had lunch. Pollo sudado for me, soup salad, rice and potatoes, plus fried plantain and guarapo. 11 k each. Walked my buddy back to Estadio where he headed back to his hotel in El Centro and I headed to the apartment. Resting now for the dinner date.

The older sister's friend hit me up today to find out when we're getting together. Probably meeting with her and the sister this weekend. That has potential, but I'll have to wait and see.

As for barebacking, that's not on my agenda. My Trojan Ultra thins are good enough for me. I learned my lesson a few years ago.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2501609]Its kind a tricky whichever way you handle it. Like you said sometimes unavoidable. My last trip I won won won..[/QUOTE]That's an issue I caught a bunch of flak on last year. What I said and still believe is, once the cops show up, your costs are likely to go up.

Sometimes you end up with a crazy one and you're better off to cut your losses, pay her and get her out.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2501605]I am not sure if I did it to myself. Can you believe she is trying to text me saying she really wanted to have a good time with me. She might be trying to get me to threaten her. Extort more money from me..[/QUOTE]You were in a no win situation, and I have been in a few similar situations and am not going to bust your chops. My only advice would of been to de-fuse the situation before the cops were called, but without Spanish speaking skills, I can see how it would of been difficult. Also, I remember an instance when a Chica said she was going to call the Police, and I turned the tables on her by telling her that I would be calling the Police, and informing them that she had tried to rob me, unless she immediately left. Sorry about what happened, it's a total learning curve with these Chicas and you can learn to spot the red flags, and nobody is immune from problems here, and you should not be embarrassed about what happened to you, something similar to that could happen to me at any time, and it's good you posted what happened so others can learn from it.

Where were you staying? You didnt provide her Full name and contact details?Tinder seems like a gamble to me when compared to Facebook where a lot of these girls guys can verify for you including here in this forum.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2501605]I am not sure if I did it to myself. Can you believe she is trying to text me saying she really wanted to have a good time with me. She might be trying to get me to threaten her. Extort more money from me.

.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=SeekingHead;2501575]For the overseas women I met up with, both were early 30's from eastern europe,
Because of SA, I doubt I will ever get married again due to the easy supply of women in their 20's. It's way cheaper than being married & much less drama. The only cavet would be if I found a smoking hot early 30's girl who is a solid 9 or above & is content with being a good submissive housewife, dedicating herself to yoga & taking care of the household.[/QUOTE]You might as well get this one out of your mind.

Its ridiculous.

The moment she has her citizenship you will lose your power and will be scrambling.

If she's a 8 or less its possible.

A 9 or higher hotness, early 30's, is the most desirable woman in 1st world countries with men over 30's with money that will worship her, she will get hit on constantly.

She will quickly figure that out, her options and they will be through the roof.

Unless.

1. you are rich and can keep her in a high lifestyle so you stick out from the average guy in USA, Canada or Europe.

You will need to give her an allowance to keep her happy (shopping, traveling, and doing nothing makes hot chicks wet).

(Sorry yoga and cooking for you won't keep a 9 plus knockout happy for the long-term).

2. you keep her in her home country so you keep the power.

If you only have average income LMAO this will end with your tears.

Stick with reality.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2501552]You sound really confused, go to BKK and show me a bldg that won't let you bring in guests 24/7 unlike all the girl unfriendly ones I hear about in MDE.

Your last few posts about Asia and mongering economics show you know don't know much about either.[/QUOTE]You're right, one of us is confused jajajaja. And the points are not about mongering economics, but economics in a free market.

One advantage of being a Centro rat is you know where you stand. If anybody wants money for no sex they put a knife or screwdriver to your neck, none of this tricky stuff. You take a girl to a hotel and you play then pay, simple. See you at Ground Zero.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2501599]I think the long term with 8 was good, wasnt a bust. We saw each other this trip and still keep in contact. This was a bust for sure. Do you know the ***** text me and said I really was hoping to have a good time with you. Gimmie my money back then talk to me LOL.[/QUOTE]

It's all good Blakman. Lesson learned, keep it simple and keep it moving. When a girl pushes back and plays games, whether or not she is an 8 or whatever other number, cut your losses and kick her to the curb. As soon as the police are involved, we lose. The girls know this. I always clarify the deal and any girl who doesn't accept it gets a friendly smile and a goodbye from me. I think you made the best of an unnecessarily bad situation by paying them to leave. Next time you won't probably have drugs around girls you don't know well.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2501591]I dearly paid for this decision. Everybody will love and be warned about this story. Slapshot is going to have a big laugh and Spider rider is going to say told you so. After I let her in she says she's going to sleep and head to work. I said no sex no pay. She said okay. 2 pm comes she ask for money I say no. She ask to go outside smoke weed. Then she talks to security about police. I tell security I will settle this. I get change to give her money to go. Policia arrives. They allow her to hide the previous money I gave. They find tussi and weed in her purse. I am like she is the bad person, I am the victim. She says that I forced her to buy drugs. But it seems like they are coaching her what to say. They ask to come to a solution. I decide to give her the balance. She says no. They want to get in my apartment. I see where its heading but I am hoping honesty prevail. In the apartment the have 4 blunts and tussi spread out on my kitchen table. I tell them not mines not mines. They press on getting to a solution. She request the full money though I paid half already and she did nothing for 2nd half. Or else go down to station. Officer says pay the money and we will deal with her. I reluctantly pay the money. They then try to let her leave while drugs on my table. I say no no no no. Take the drugs they not mines. She then trys to translate to me to pay the officers. I stay far from her. I open up the door and direct them to leave cause problem has been resolved with my payment. They pick up the weed and tussi and ask if I want to do anything to keep the drugs. I say I don't do drugs. Lets leave. When they walk down the stairs. They tell me Colombia has very bad girls be very careful. They left out bad cops as well. So that's the whole story and nothing but the truth LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blakman;2501591]I dearly paid for this decision. Everybody will love and be warned about this story. Slapshot is going to have a big laugh and Spider rider is going to say told you so. After I let her in she says she's going to sleep and head to work. I said no sex no pay. She said okay. 2 pm comes she ask for money I say no. She ask to go outside smoke weed. Then she talks to security about police. I tell security I will settle this. I get change to give her money to go. Policia arrives. They allow her to hide the previous money I gave. They find tussi and weed in her purse. I am like she is the bad person, I am the victim. She says that I forced her to buy drugs. But it seems like they are coaching her what to say. They ask to come to a solution. I decide to give her the balance. She says no. They want to get in my apartment. I see where its heading but I am hoping honesty prevail. In the apartment the have 4 blunts and tussi spread out on my kitchen table. I tell them not mines not mines. They press on getting to a solution. She request the full money though I paid half already and she did nothing for 2nd half. Or else go down to station. Officer says pay the money and we will deal with her. I reluctantly pay the money. They then try to let her leave while drugs on my table. I say no no no no. Take the drugs they not mines. She then trys to translate to me to pay the officers. I stay far from her. I open up the door and direct them to leave cause problem has been resolved with my payment. They pick up the weed and tussi and ask if I want to do anything to keep the drugs. I say I don't do drugs. Lets leave. When they walk down the stairs. They tell me Colombia has very bad girls be very careful. They left out bad cops as well. So that's the whole story and nothing but the truth LOL.[/QUOTE]Stupid girl. If she was acting as a lady she would have won a lot more in the future than she won by calling the cops. Are Colombians so stupid?

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2501623]It's all good Blakman. Lesson learned, keep it simple and keep it moving. When a girl pushes back and plays games, whether or not she is an 8 or whatever other number, cut your losses and kick her to the curb. As soon as the police are involved, we lose. The girls know this. I always clarify the deal and any girl who doesn't accept it gets a friendly smile and a goodbye from me. I think you made the best of an unnecessarily bad situation by paying them to leave. Next time you won't probably have drugs around girls you don't know well.[/QUOTE]This is so true. Once a girl starts playing games, immediately cut things off. Some guys (usually beginners in this hobby) think if they're just nice and go with the flow, the chica will change course and give them a great experience. Of course, they think this even more if the chica is really georgous.

I'm always "nice" to chicas, but once I see warning signs that they're scheming something, I block them, meaning no more contact whatsoever (no matter how attractive they might be). There are plenty of other hot-looking women right around the corner.

I really recommend guys "test fuck" girls for short-time in a love motel before inviting them over to your apartment. It's no guarantee, but you can get a sense of how they act. Also, it's good to have some contact info for the girl (such as her Facebook page or the casa she works at). If she knows you have no way to track or report her, she's more likely to try to pull something. No guarantee, but improves your odds.

[QUOTE=Bookie77;2501625]Stupid girl. If she was acting as a lady she would have won a lot more in the future than she won by calling the cops. Are Colombians so stupid?[/QUOTE]1. Paisa hood-rats are incapable of "acting as a lady" or extrapolate how actions in the present could benefit them in the future Do not have these in your bag of expectations. You will be wrong just about every time. I have talked to some of them about it. They know the difference between a "lady" and a a "puta". They choose the later for whatever reasons motivate them.

2. NOT all Colombian women (and Venezolanas in Colombia) women are Paisa hood-rats. If you can recognize the different sub-cultures and up-bringing you'll be far better off in pay-for-play, and especially extended time arrangements and dating. Medellin is the best city in Colombia, but has the most dangerous, flaky, and "sharky" women. Keep this in mind. Learn the neighborhoods. For examples if a girl tells you they are from Manrique, Doce de October, among others. , you're likely dealing with a hood-rat without hope for the future, fully engaged in leveraging the present. Doesn't mean a deal-breaker, but you're more aware of who you're dealing with. There are other cities to visit and play in. But, they're all a substantial step or 2 down from Medellin in most aspects. Baranquilla women are generally wonderful, But its very hot and otherwise boring there.

I currently have a live-in Venezolana, 4 years in Medellin. Could not be sweeter, gracious, and free of drama. Her 1/2 sister, a stunner from Caratagena has similar personality and behavior. I love them both.
Problem is, there's another Venezolana back in town after the quarantine, terrifically cute, sexy , and sweet as a puppy. We haven't lined up a visit outside the apartment yet. She keeps offering to come over.

[QUOTE=Combo;2501636]This is so true. Once a girl starts playing games, immediately cut things off. Some guys (usually beginners in this hobby) think if they're just nice and go with the flow, the chica will change course and give them a great experience. Of course, they think this even more if the chica is really georgous.

I'm always "nice" to chicas, but once I see warning signs that they're scheming something, I block them, meaning no more contact whatsoever (no matter how attractive they might be). There are plenty of other hot-looking women right around the corner.

I really recommend guys "test fuck" girls for short-time in a love motel before inviting them over to your apartment. It's no guarantee, but you can get a sense of how they act. Also, it's good to have some contact info for the girl (such as her Facebook page or the casa she works at). If she knows you have no way to track or report her, she's more likely to try to pull something. No guarantee, but improves your odds.[/QUOTE]Be yourself, if you're "nice" be nice. But it gets you no dividends, don't fool yourself.

I concur about the hotels, but even a 1-hour timed visit in your properly secured apartment will suffice.
Also, you if they'll "go out " with you, and they seem uncomfortable and not doing their fair share of trying to smile and have a little fun together, thats a sign of potential trouble

[QUOTE=Blakman;2501527]Let me try renege and get her stuff out the apartment and out of the building. I accomplish both but when she notice I was trying to put the bag in the taxi. She wasnt having it. I made couple offers for her to go but. Didn't happen. I knew I was wrong [b]so I allowed her back in the apartment[/b]. [/QUOTE]It was at this moment that you knew you had fucked up. The whole issue is getting a chick out of the house. Once you do that you do not let them back in. Most of the time I do not even pay a chick until we are outside.

Integrity got the best of me.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2501644]It was at this moment that you knew you had fucked up. The whole issue is getting a chick out of the house. Once you do that you do not let them back in. Most of the time I do not even pay a chick until we are outside.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2501638]1. Paisa hood-rats are incapable of "acting as a lady" or extrapolate how actions in the present could benefit them in the future Do not have these in your bag of expectations. You will be wrong just about every time. I have talked to some of them about it. They know the difference between a "lady" and a a "puta". They choose the later for whatever reasons motivate them.[/QUOTE]It is this kind of shit that goes down more often than not in the Dominican Republic. It seems those hoes do all in their power to NOT have you as a repeat customer.

[QUOTE=Bookie77;2501625]Stupid girl. If she was acting as a lady she would have won a lot more in the future than she won by calling the cops. Are Colombians so stupid?[/QUOTE]I'm not sure "acting like a lady" is foremost on the mind of most prostitutes.

There are 40 million people in Colombia, perhaps it's best if you meet a few before passing judgement on all of them.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2501644]It was at this moment that you knew you had fucked up. The whole issue is getting a chick out of the house. Once you do that you do not let them back in. Most of the time I do not even pay a chick until we are outside.[/QUOTE]I do not disagree with you that he fucked up at the point he let her back in his apartment, but I am fairly sure he fucked up before that, I am fairly sure that some BMs had already told him that he should not be trying to make a long term deal with a chica when he had not already spent sufficient time getting to know her. The same advice that comes up every time someone brings up either a long term deal or taking a prepago on a trip etc. Board members who have had the experience say time and time again to gradually spend more time. First a session, then a couple of TLNs, then maybe a weekend, etc.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2501652]I do not disagree with you that he fucked up at the point he let her back in his apartment, but I am fairly sure he fucked up before that, I am fairly sure that some BMs had already told him that he should not be trying to make a long term deal with a chica when he had not already spent sufficient time getting to know her. The same advice that comes up every time someone brings up either a long term deal or taking a prepago on a trip etc. Board members who have had the experience say time and time again to gradually spend more time. First a session, then a couple of TLNs, then maybe a weekend, etc.[/QUOTE]It would be a great service to keep this post at the top of every thread. Way more valuable than another blow-by-blow sex report.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2501638]1. Paisa hood-rats are incapable of "acting as a lady" or extrapolate how actions in the present could benefit them in the future Do not have these in your bag of expectations. You will be wrong just about every time. I have talked to some of them about it. They know the difference between a "lady" and a a "puta". They choose the later for whatever reasons motivate them.

2. NOT all Colombian women (and Venezolanas in Colombia) women are Paisa hood-rats. If you can recognize the different sub-cultures and up-bringing you'll be far better off in pay-for-play, and especially extended time arrangements and dating. Medellin is the best city in Colombia, but has the most dangerous, flaky, and "sharky" women. Keep this in mind. Learn the neighborhoods. For examples if a girl tells you they are from Manrique, Doce de October, among others. , you're likely dealing with a hood-rat without hope for the future, fully engaged in leveraging the present. Doesn't mean a deal-breaker, but you're more aware of who you're dealing with. There are other cities to visit and play in. But, they're all a substantial step or 2 down from Medellin in most aspects. Baranquilla women are generally wonderful, But its very hot and otherwise boring there.

I currently have a live-in Venezolana, 4 years in Medellin. Could not be sweeter, gracious, and free of drama. Her 1/2 sister, a stunner from Caratagena has similar personality and behavior. I love them both.
Problem is, there's another Venezolana back in town after the quarantine, terrifically cute, sexy , and sweet as a puppy. We haven't lined up a visit outside the apartment yet. She keeps offering to come over.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your valuable advices. I have never been in Colombia. I 've been many times in Brazil but not once in Medellin and I am planning to move there if I won't move to Brazil finally. Unfortunately the girls in Colombia are totally different they don't act like this. They are caring and they enjoy going out with you. They won't call the cops to extortion you.

This sort of thing is less likely to happen if the terms of a proposed deal are stated clearly and the girl is asked to accept or decline it. That is very different than playing games of back and forth, this and that, 6 days and / or x number of hours. That is the kind of thing that leaves lots of room for mischief.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2501647]It is this kind of shit that goes down more often than not in the Dominican Republic. It seems those hoes do all in their power to NOT have you as a repeat customer.[/QUOTE]

You are a good brother Surfer.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2501613]You were in a no win situation, and I have been in a few similar situations and am not going to bust your chops. My only advice would of been to de-fuse the situation before the cops were called, but without Spanish speaking skills, I can see how it would of been difficult. Also, I remember an instance when a Chica said she was going to call the Police, and I turned the tables on her by telling her that I would be calling the Police, and informing them that she had tried to rob me, unless she immediately left. Sorry about what happened, it's a total learning curve with these Chicas and you can learn to spot the red flags, and nobody is immune from problems here, and you should not be embarrassed about what happened to you, something similar to that could happen to me at any time, and it's good you posted what happened so others can learn from it.[/QUOTE]

Block her now.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2501605]I am not sure if I did it to myself. Can you believe she is trying to text me saying she really wanted to have a good time with me. She might be trying to get me to threaten her. Extort more money from me..[/QUOTE]

The drugs was hers that I had no knowledge of and was discovered by the cops when they were searching for the money I paid her. When responding secure your facts then make comments. You could be egregiously wrong. Continue on though. No offense. I consider myself a seasoned mongerer though I made a few mistakes it happens to many like once a trip. In this case cops got called in quickly. Actually I think I handle the matter well. Clearly the policia were looking for a big pay day and they made every effort to attempt a big coup, which I was able to ward off. It cost me $110. I feel it, being a cheapy charley. But tomorrow I will be at a casa like its a new day. Keep the chatter going. As Slapovertheradar would say. "Cheers"

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2501623]It's all good Blakman. Lesson learned, keep it simple and keep it moving. When a girl pushes back and plays games, whether or not she is an 8 or whatever other number, cut your losses and kick her to the curb. As soon as the police are involved, we lose. The girls know this. I always clarify the deal and any girl who doesn't accept it gets a friendly smile and a goodbye from me. I think you made the best of an unnecessarily bad situation by paying them to leave. Next time you won't probably have drugs around girls you don't know well.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Blakman;2501677]The drugs was hers that I had no knowledge of and was discovered by the cops when they were searching for the money I paid her. When responding secure your facts then make comments. You could be egregiously wrong. Continue on though. No offense. I consider myself a seasoned mongerer though I made a few mistakes it happens to many like once a trip. In this case cops got called in quickly. Actually I think I handle the matter well. Clearly the policia were looking for a big pay day and they made every effort to attempt a big coup, which I was able to ward off. It cost me $110. I feel it, being a cheapy charley. But tomorrow I will be at a casa like its a new day. Keep the chatter going. As Slapovertheradar would say. "Cheers".[/QUOTE]Time to listen to the little voice from within calling you back to El Centro. No drama there, it's clearcut what may transpire there, your either going to get cut up by a bunch of thieves, or a puta is going to fuck your brains out for no more than 30 K, and nobody will be calling the police to have to deal with either situation. It will be a new day for you!

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2501610]Cut me some slack. I'm old.

By the time I got into the apartment it was 9 pm, and 5 minutes later the storm hit. Had a buddy ask if I wanted to meet up at Maracaibo, but I didn't feel like venturing out in the rain.

Met up with the buddy and 2 other guys this morning after I did some shopping. Should have grabbed a taxi, or taken the metro up to Floresta. Ended up walking from Estadio to near Carrera 80 and Calle 33. Checked out Eros Spa there, Carrera 81 A #34 A-15. Sign says it's an aparthotel. Go in, go up one flight, door on the right. About 10 girls were there. A couple looked good enough, but they all looked bored. Ad on Photoprepagos said 70 k for 1 hour, but the girl said 60 k. Decent enough in a pinch, but nobody was feeling it. Now the bad part. They wanted 10 k each guy for the lineup.

Found a decent restaurant to check out, but expensive. Casablanca, Carrera 80 and Calle 34. It's a butcher shop and restaurant. Provenza prices.

Headed down Calle 33, but the addresses one guy had were both closed. In the end, me and my buddy went to Energy. About 10 girls in the lineup, but not much enthusiasm. We both made our selections and paid the 140 k for the hour. Both were happy with our choices.

Walked down the street a block and had lunch. Pollo sudado for me, soup salad, rice and potatoes, plus fried plantain and guarapo. 11 k each. Walked my buddy back to Estadio where he headed back to his hotel in El Centro and I headed to the apartment. Resting now for the dinner date..[/QUOTE]Okay, when your rested up will wait for some blow by blow reports of your conquests.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2501553]I was wondering the same thing with all the sex videos he raved about being sent to him by so many non-pros.[/QUOTE]The sex videos are good. However, as I stated several times before arriving and will stick with I never considered any of them a sure thing. I'm not complaining. I've got about 6 hours of video from about 8 girls, got a free ride from the airport, had a nice dinner and introduced 2 of them to Lebanese food (Full Árabe is excellent) and 3 of them are taking me to Guatape Saturday. I'll buy gas and probably buy lunch as well. It's not a bad way to spend a day.

In between, I have no problems getting girls to satisfy my other needs.

I don't have the ability to PM just yet but will be landing in Medellin for the first time this weekend. Usually frequent Brazil quite often (a trip every 3 months or so) but figured I'd change it up a bit this time around. Thanks for the report on the ground. I'll have to check out Gustos this weekend as it was on my list. If you see a buff Asian guy, just walk up to me and we can knock a few back.

[QUOTE=Chobomar;2501580]Sup all, I've been in Medellin for the past week, and have done a whirlwind tour of a few of strip clubs and casas. Highlights so far include Luna lunera and energy spa. Highly recommended.

Anyone around this weekend want to get together and visit a couple spots in the evening? Particularly wanting to check out la Islas and Gustos. Down to split a bottle, hang out and scope the talent.

30 M from the US. PM me.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blakman;2501591]I dearly paid for this decision. [/QUOTE]It may appears that way. I think it's your tactic trying to squeeze them to the max would make some of them feel they have nothing to lose even after they agree with your deal. I am not criticizing you on this. It is my observation. I think the girls may also feel they are locked in a prison so to speak for a long term deal with you because you don't speak Spanish. That is not likely to last. Finally, Tinder is known to carry more danger.

Thanks for the reports.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2501696]The sex videos are good. However, as I stated several times before arriving and will stick with I never considered any of them a sure thing. I'm not complaining. I've got about 6 hours of video from about 8 girls, got a free ride from the airport, had a nice dinner and introduced 2 of them to Lebanese food (Full rabe is excellent) and 3 of them are taking me to Guatape Saturday. I'll buy gas and probably buy lunch as well. It's not a bad way to spend a day.

In between, I have no problems getting girls to satisfy my other needs.[/QUOTE]Seeing that your all rested up, and have been serviced, how about some details on those girls that have been satisfying you. Like you to went xyz casa, and there was a great line-up, or did any of them have a big set of boobies, gave you a BBBJ, were tight, etc.

I'm just curious as to how you actually roll when your in Medellin, that's what makes this board interesting when we hear what other guys are going thru (Blackman) and experiencing while on the ground here, versus commenting on from far away like you and I have been doing for the last several months.

You and I are here right now in Medellin, while many others are unable, or afraid to come down here, so I think any reporting will benefit others thinking of coming to Medellin.

This my first encounter with the police or security. I think 99% is an excellent percentage. You imput is welcome but one incident does not bring down an empire. I will continue as before. Long live the. Blakman. He still rules minus $110 ouch. Slapamazon how about a reimbursement.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2501782]It may appears that way. I think it's your tactic trying to squeeze them to the max would make some of them feel they have nothing to lose even after they agree with your deal. I am not criticizing you on this. It is my observation. I think the girls may also feel they are locked in a prison so to speak for a long term deal with you because you don't speak Spanish. That is not likely to last. Finally, Tinder is known to carry more danger.

Thanks for the reports.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2501695]Okay, when your rested up will wait for some blow by blow reports of your conquests.[/QUOTE]Okay, here's the blow by blow report from Energy.

First thing in the door madam sprays your hands with hand sanitizer and sprays some in the direction of your feet, then takes your temperature. Probably had my temperature checked 15 times yesterday. I'm glad they're not using rectal thermometers.

Energy is somewhat of a tradition for me. I have to do it once a trip. The waiting areas have every other seat blocked off and there was 1 guy waiting for a lineup. That gave me a chance to get a preview of the girls. Pretty much all 7's in the lineup. The best looking one rushed in and out too quick. Otherwise I'd have taken her.

I ended up choosing probably the oldest in the lineup, I'm guessing 32-36. She was a short flaca, all natural and had a bit of spunk in her attitude. Got to the room, she put on some music, 80's rock, and I grabbed a quick shower.

Laid down and she started a massage. Not too bad of a job and went overboard on my feet, oiling them up and rubbing them on her tits. She did some believable fake moaning, before I pulled her up for some DATY.

She was clean, no odor, pH was good (when it makes your tongue tingle her pH balance is off indicating something isn't right in cooterville). Ended up hearing a lot of "asi, asi, ooo asi" before the squirting began. Fortunately, I have experience with squirters, so she just soaked my chin and chest. Took a few minutes and then worked her back up to another squirt.

For those who don't understand squirting, it's urine. It's more common with older women and can be corrected by surgery. When it's real, the muscle contractions during orgasm cause her to open up and let loose. Unfortunately, it has become popular, so a lot of women, especially younger ones add squirting to their fake orgasm routine.

Whether or not she was faking doesn't matter to me, she fakes well. After sanitizing my balls, she went in for some licking, then put on a condom for CBJ. She did a decent job with deep throat. No gagging, but she couldn't quite take it all. After the BJ, She removed the condom, sanitized my dick, put on a new condom and mounted me CG. After a few minutes, switched to Mish, where I finished up.

Pussy was tight, and she rode well, took pounding without complaint. Didn't notice any baby damage and no problems with the body. Her number was 43, I don't remember her name.

Finished with a shower and got down to the waiting area 1 minute ahead of my buddy.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2501594] Looking forward to the next Centro update, where the girls a more professional, pure, and cost-effective...![/QUOTE]You make this statement as though pure and cost effective girls don't exist, or can't be found in Centro, but they exist, but not everybody is going to have the patience and skills to find them.

On Tuesday afternoon I decided for the first time to drag one of my favorite El Centro girls to my apartment. I have been with her before, spending all nighters with her in El Centro, but never in my apartment, and was reluctant to do so but pulled the trigger with a full lockdown of my valuables upon arriving. She's not a beauty queen by any stretch of the imagination, but does have a nice little body, which matters way more to me than a pretty face.

Have you ever been woken up in the morning with a hard on, "morning wood", and wanting to immediately bang someone hopefully that is lying next to you in bed who is ready. Well how about somebody waking you up in the morning to bang you for a change, which happened to me two days in a row. I think this falls in the "pure" versus "professional" category.

Turns out my little sweetheart plays house, and helped me clean the apartment, and was willing to do anything I wanted anytime with no grief or drama, so I'm going to put that in the "pure" category as well.

As far as being cost effective, and after literally getting banged every six hours, I handed her 250 K after 48 hours of pure bliss and she nodded in appreciation for giving her so much money.

I sent her home Wednesday afternoon and told her to come back Thursday afternoon to spend the next two days with me.

Meanwhile I will be hitting El Centro in the morning Thursday looking for another new pure and cost effective Chica versus a "professional" Chica to add to the stable.

Post a photo of this thief. Any information you can post about this liar would be greatly appreciated by all of us.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2501801]This my first encounter with the police or security. I think 99% is an excellent percentage. You imput is welcome but one incident does not bring down an empire. I will continue as before. Long live the. Blakman. He still rules minus $110 ouch. Slapamazon how about a reimbursement.

.[/QUOTE]

Excellent idea!

[QUOTE=Voyajer1;2501816]Post a photo of this thief. Any information you can post about this liar would be greatly appreciated by all of us.[/QUOTE]

Hey Blakman,

No offense taken. I apologize if I got confused about the facts. I thought you wrote more than once that you smoked weed with girls and I thought the post about the police incident mentioned drugs were in view on a table in the apartment. I guess you meant you had no knowledge of the drugs she was carrying and not what was inside the apartment. So apologies again, like I said I think you made the best of a bad situation. I doubt you will let something like that happen again. I respect the way you owned up and reported it. It will help a lot of guys including me. It never hurts to be reminded how things can go sideways.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2501677]The drugs was hers that I had no knowledge of and was discovered by the cops when they were searching for the money I paid her. When responding secure your facts then make comments. You could be egregiously wrong. Continue on though. No offense. I consider myself a seasoned mongerer though I made a few mistakes it happens to many like once a trip. In this case cops got called in quickly. Actually I think I handle the matter well. Clearly the policia were looking for a big pay day and they made every effort to attempt a big coup, which I was able to ward off. It cost me $110. I feel it, being a cheapy charley. But tomorrow I will be at a casa like its a new day. Keep the chatter going. As Slapovertheradar would say. "Cheers".[/QUOTE]

Pay 300 mil per hour, pay taxi fee, Baby sitter fee, pay for lunch to figure out if she's a problem or not. Stack your apartment with top shelf liquor, order in, tip her, kiss her goodbye, call her make sure she gets home safe. If you follow these advices then you will never need her pic cause you will not face any issues my 99% cheapy charlie have faced. You will be immuned. Today I have a house visit from mileroticos girl. 120 plus taxi. Have not met her before. Its another risky decision. Lets see if I can avoid the policia.

[QUOTE=Voyajer1;2501816]Post a photo of this thief. Any information you can post about this liar would be greatly appreciated by all of us.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2501800]Seeing that your all rested up, and have been serviced, how about some details on those girls that have been satisfying you. Like you to went xyz casa, and there was a great line-up, or did any of them have a big set of boobies, gave you a BBBJ, were tight, etc.

I'm just curious as to how you actually roll when your in Medellin, that's what makes this board interesting when we hear what other guys are going thru (Blackman) and experiencing while on the ground here, versus commenting on from far away like you and I have been doing for the last several months.

You and I are here right now in Medellin, while many others are unable, or afraid to come down here, so I think any reporting will benefit others thinking of coming to Medellin.[/QUOTE]Done.

How I roll in Medellin is slowly. My average work week runs right around 70 hours. When I'm off, I feel no pressure to meet any quotas. Most days I'm happy with 1 girl and I prefer longer sessions in my apartment. An occasional quickie is good, but I've got to be in the mood.

Today I'm meeting up with a fellow ISG contributor for lunch and then I might make my annual pilgrimage to El Centro. If you see a tall man who isn't The Tall Man, it's probably me. Just ask me if I used to surf Ocean Beach.

Afterwards I'm trying to get in touch with a girl for a haircut and sex this evening. She's 19 no kids and really wants to get in a position where she can beg for money.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2501801]I HAVE HAD OVER 100 ENCOUNTERS SINCE MY INITIAL VISIT February.[/QUOTE]No one is immune from problems and you were due for one. I think you actually enjoy what you do and it is interesting to see you push the limit.

Added a new account at Navy Federal Credit Union last year, because my fifth third account was ringing me for about 7% on Colombian ATM withdrawals.

It's good and bad.

The good, I've made 2 withdrawals from different banks and I'm only getting a 1.3% charge off the current rate.

The bad, with fifth third my max withdrawal from Davivienda was 2 million pesos. With Navy Federal my max is 400 k. My max at BBVA is 300 k. Never used them before, so no comparison.

I'll try Bancolombia and Scotiabank Colpatria to find out my max and the rate.

Looks like you've got a comfortable apartment. What barrio are you staying in? Have you stayed in this apartment before?

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2501812]

On Tuesday afternoon I decided for the first time to drag one of my favorite El Centro girls to my apartment. I have been with her before, spending all nighters with her in El Centro, but never in my apartment, and was reluctant to do so but pulled the trigger with a full lockdown of my valuables upon arriving. She's not a beauty queen by any stretch of the imagination, but does have a nice little body, which matters way more to me than a pretty face.[/QUOTE]

My friends wonder how the hell you fly to these places. Well dammit, a penny saved leads to a dollar and so on LOL. In March I take my cheapy charley ass to kenyan. $600. Thats minus 3 gusto girls. Giving the opportunity to see a plethora of black barbie dolls with natural bodies. Yes I love what I do saving. Dollar before pussy. My daughters before pussy. Some guys do anything to get pussy, other guys wait to see what the pussy value before giving.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2501850]No one is immune from problems and you were due for one. I think you actually enjoy what you do and it is interesting to see you push the limit.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Blakman;2501591]I dearly paid for this decision. Everybody will love and be warned about this story. Slapshot is going to have a big laugh and Spider rider is going to say told you so. After I let her in she says she's going to sleep and head to work. I said no sex no pay. She said okay. 2 pm comes she ask for money I say no. She ask to go outside smoke weed. Then she talks to security about police. I tell security I will settle this. I get change to give her money to go. Policia arrives. They allow her to hide the previous money I gave. They find tussi and weed in her purse. I am like she is the bad person, I am the victim. She says that I forced her to buy drugs. But it seems like they are coaching her what to say. They ask to come to a solution. I decide to give her the balance. She says no. They want to get in my apartment. I see where its heading but I am hoping honesty prevail. In the apartment the have 4 blunts and tussi spread out on my kitchen table. I tell them not mines not mines. They press on getting to a solution. She request the full money though I paid half already and she did nothing for 2nd half. Or else go down to station. Officer says pay the money and we will deal with her. I reluctantly pay the money. They then try to let her leave while drugs on my table. I say no no no no. Take the drugs they not mines. She then trys to translate to me to pay the officers. I stay far from her. I open up the door and direct them to leave cause problem has been resolved with my payment. They pick up the weed and tussi and ask if I want to do anything to keep the drugs. I say I don't do drugs. Lets leave. When they walk down the stairs. They tell me Colombia has very bad girls be very careful. They left out bad cops as well. So that's the whole story and nothing but the truth LOL.[/QUOTE]Shit happens. If you knew it was going to happen and let her in that's one thing. But they do this kind of thing occasionally if you let your guard down. The police didn't likely know her, right? And when they show up and see a Paisa with a tourist they know the girl is guilty but that they can enrich themselves often in these situations. So why not, I guess. It sucks. I've been there, a girl demanding money for nothing or less than what I expected because I didn't have it in writing. That's the game and it could have been worse so keep moving and enjoy the rest of your time.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2501833]Pay 300 mil per hour, pay taxi fee, Baby sitter fee, pay for lunch to figure out if she's a problem or not. Stack your apartment with top shelf liquor, order in, tip her, kiss her goodbye, call her make sure she gets home safe. If you follow these advices then you will never need her pic cause you will not face any issues my 99% cheapy charlie have faced. You will be immuned. Today I have a house visit from mileroticos girl. 120 plus taxi. Have not met her before. Its another risky decision. Lets see if I can avoid the policia..[/QUOTE]80 US $ per hour? I would never pay a paisa 80 US $ for an hour.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2501591]In the apartment the have 4 blunts and tussi spread out on my kitchen table. I tell them not mines not mines. They press on getting to a solution. She request the full money though I paid half already and she did nothing for 2nd half. Or else go down to station. Officer says pay the money and we will deal with her. I reluctantly pay the money. [/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing. To some extent it is reassuring as it matches what others have sent about the police. That they may see drugs as an opportunity for a bribe, but they are less corrupt than in other countries in Latin / Central America. In the above case it seems that they got nothing.

Absolutely what happened. Now there a chica en route give a report afterwards. If you don't hear from me I am locked up. No compromise today. LOL but serious. LOL

[QUOTE=Chicafan;2501855]Shit happens. If you knew it was going to happen and let her in that's one thing. But they do this kind of thing occasionally if you let your guard down. The police didn't likely know her, right? And when they show up and see a Paisa with a tourist they know the girl is guilty but that they can enrich themselves often in these situations. So why not, I guess. It sucks. I've been there, a girl demanding money for nothing or less than what I expected because I didn't have it in writing. That's the game and it could have been worse so keep moving and enjoy the rest of your time.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2501812]You make this statement as though pure and cost effective girls don't exist, or can't be found in Centro, but they exist, but not everybody is going to have the patience and skills to find them.
[/QUOTE]Surfer, I was actually being serious, in the sense that the Centro girls don't overvalue themselves, and you know exactly what to expect. Dirty Pure, if we will.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2501890]Absolutely what happened. Now there a chica en route give a report afterwards. If you don't hear from me I am locked up. No compromise today. LOL but serious. LOL

.[/QUOTE]Blaktothebasicsman, when you find these girls, Tinder or otherwise, do you move the conversation to WhatsApp? If so, are you using your US number or a local? I changed my US number to a Business Account, then added a normal WhatsApp account for my local number. I've noticed a huge difference when talking to businesses and girls, as far as pricing. I can't say it's a sure thing or that I'm right or wrong, but I feel like it's made a difference. I also think instead of always focusing on price and time, maybe you can test these chicas by setting other expectations / rules, before approaching the payment. You want BBBJ, no hard drugs, photos, no taking shit or taking shits, etc. If she's a pain in the ass, then move on. I generally (back in the Summer of 2020) would say I don't like rules and being rushed. Then, would move into specifics if she wasn't already saying no or throwing out prices in USD. I think you need to hit Centro on Fri / Sat to build up some equity so another bad experience doesn't knock you down to 51%. If you don't mind, the next time you set up a long-term agreement, I'd like to come over and have some of that popcorn you leave out on the table!

[QUOTE=Lugnut;2501852]Looks like you've got a comfortable apartment. What barrio are you staying in? Have you stayed in this apartment before?[/QUOTE]I've stayed in this apartment before and it is in the Patio Bonito Barrio.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2501851]Added a new account at Navy Federal Credit Union last year, because my fifth third account was ringing me for about 7% on Colombian ATM withdrawals.

It's good and bad.

The good, I've made 2 withdrawals from different banks and I'm only getting a 1.3% charge off the current rate.

The bad, with fifth third my max withdrawal from Davivienda was 2 million pesos. With Navy Federal my max is 400 k. My max at BBVA is 300 k. Never used them before, so no comparison.

I'll try Bancolombia and Scotiabank Colpatria to find out my max and the rate.[/QUOTE]Scotia bank is the way to go, they typically have better rates then Bancolombia and I think you can withdraw up to 900 K three times for a maximum for 2,700,000 a day.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2501847]Done.

How I roll in Medellin is slowly. My average work week runs right around 70 hours. When I'm off, I feel no pressure to meet any quotas. Most days I'm happy with 1 girl and I prefer longer sessions in my apartment. An occasional quickie is good, but I've got to be in the mood.

Today I'm meeting up with a fellow ISG contributor for lunch and then I might make my annual pilgrimage to El Centro. If you see a tall man who isn't The Tall Man, it's probably me. Just ask me if I used to surf Ocean Beach.

Afterwards I'm trying to get in touch with a girl for a haircut and sex this evening. She's 19 no kids and really wants to get in a position where she can beg for money.[/QUOTE]I was in El Centro between 10 AM and 1 PM today and most probably missed you. And if you used to actually surf Ocean Beach your okay in my book.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2501807]Okay, here's the blow by blow report from Energy.

First thing in the door madam sprays your hands with hand sanitizer and sprays some in the direction of your feet, then takes your temperature. Probably had my temperature checked 15 times yesterday. I'm glad they're not using rectal thermometers.

Energy is somewhat of a tradition for me. I have to do it once a trip. The waiting areas have every other seat blocked off and there was 1 guy waiting for a lineup. That gave me a chance to get a preview of the girls. Pretty much all 7's in the lineup. The best looking one rushed in and out too quick. Otherwise I'd have taken her.

I ended up choosing probably the oldest in the lineup, I'm guessing 32-36. She was a short flaca, all natural and had a bit of spunk in her attitude. Got to the room, she put on some music, 80's rock, and I grabbed a quick shower.

Laid down and she started a massage. Not too bad of a job and went overboard on my feet, oiling them up and rubbing them on her tits. She did some believable fake moaning, before I pulled her up for some DATY.

She was clean, no odor, pH was good (when it makes your tongue tingle her pH balance is off indicating something isn't right in cooterville). Ended up hearing a lot of "asi, asi, ooo asi" before the squirting began. Fortunately, I have experience with squirters, so she just soaked my chin and chest. Took a few minutes and then worked her back up to another squirt..[/QUOTE]The 2 showers you took were their hot water in both? May sound silly but a cold shower will mess my day up! LOL glad your going with the flow and having fun, I'm trying for next week, want to get their soon before they put the testing requirements back in place; speaking of of any body know the answer to the MIG APP, the part where the ask for test results, has that been updated and no longer asked and if not what's everyone doing what they get to that part?

I must say Slapshot this is some of the best advice I've seen you give.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2501901]Surfer, I was actually being serious, in the sense that the Centro girls don't overvalue themselves, and you know exactly what to expect. Dirty Pure, if we will.

Blaktothebasicsman, when you find these girls, Tinder or otherwise, do you move the conversation to WhatsApp? If so, are you using your US number or a local? I changed my US number to a Business Account, then added a normal WhatsApp account for my local number. I've noticed a huge difference when talking to businesses and girls, as far as pricing. I can't say it's a sure thing or that I'm right or wrong, but I feel like it's made a difference. I also think instead of always focusing on price and time, maybe you can test these chicas by setting other expectations / rules, before approaching the payment. You want BBBJ, no hard drugs, photos, no taking shit or taking shits, etc. If she's a pain in the ass, then move on. I generally (back in the Summer of 2020) would say I don't like rules and being rushed. Then, would move into specifics if she wasn't already saying no or throwing out prices in USD. I think you need to hit Centro on Fri / Sat to build up some equity so another bad experience doesn't knock you down to 51%. If you don't mind, the next time you set up a long-term agreement, I'd like to come over and have some of that popcorn you leave out on the table![/QUOTE]

Just had a succesful girlfriendly hour with a mileroticos young lady. Visit was 120 mil 24 mil taxi. I will bargain her down for sure LOL. What was interesting the security checked her temperature and had her sign papers. I thanked him based on yesterday fiasco. I got kisses, deep throat, fucked her doggy in front of the mirror, sensuous touches, cum shot on the titties. Great outing as is 97% of my interactions. Cheers and continue on with the overdramitization.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2501807]Okay, here's the blow by blow report from Energy.

First thing in the door madam sprays your hands with hand sanitizer and sprays some in the direction of your feet, then takes your temperature. Probably had my temperature checked 15 times yesterday. I'm glad they're not using rectal thermometers.

Energy is somewhat of a tradition for me. I have to do it once a trip. The waiting areas have every other seat blocked off and there was 1 guy waiting for a lineup. That gave me a chance to get a preview of the girls. Pretty much all 7's in the lineup. The best looking one rushed in and out too quick. Otherwise I'd have taken her.

I ended up choosing probably the oldest in the lineup, I'm guessing 32-36. She was a short flaca, all natural and had a bit of spunk in her attitude. Got to the room, she put on some music, 80's rock, and I grabbed a quick shower.

Laid down and she started a massage. Not too bad of a job and went overboard on my feet, oiling them up and rubbing them on her tits. She did some believable fake moaning, before I pulled her up for some DATY.

She was clean, no odor, pH was good (when it makes your tongue tingle her pH balance is off indicating something isn't right in cooterville). Ended up hearing a lot of "asi, asi, ooo asi" before the squirting began. Fortunately, I have experience with squirters, so she just soaked my chin and chest. Took a few minutes and then worked her back up to another squirt..[/QUOTE]After reading your long awaited report, and it's a doozy I might add, I started laughing because a friend of mine has an obsession for squirters, and sent this photo of one that he has over to his place a few days ago. He apparently does all kinds of weird stuff with her, like having her squirt into a glass.

As far as getting pissed on, well I've actually only experienced once, and I didn't enjoy it much, but sounds like your expert in this arena so I will leave it at that.

Glad to hear your off to great start of your vacation, albeit a wet one.

Hey everyone, I'm on day two of my first trip to Medellin. I'm staying in Laureles in the San Peter building which I really like and the staff has been great. Because of the rain I haven't done much exploring outside of this area and have been meeting FB and tinder girls, and have been paying between 150-200 mil. I'm really interested in checking out the ground game and plan on checking out centro (in the day time) and checking out lleras area nightlife this weekend. I definitely don't want to inflate prices, so what should be the max I keep my offers to?

[QUOTE=BootyBandit84;2501923]Hey everyone, I'm on day two of my first trip to Medellin. I'm staying in Laureles in the San Peter building which I really like and the staff has been great. Because of the rain I haven't done much exploring outside of this area and have been meeting FB and tinder girls, and have been paying between 150-200 mil. I'm really interested in checking out the ground game and plan on checking out centro (in the day time) and checking out lleras area nightlife this weekend. I definitely don't want to inflate prices, so what should be the max I keep my offers to?[/QUOTE]El Centro pricing at times can be like buying a car, there will be a sticker price and then a final negotiated price depending on exactly what your looking for. Retail pricing is no more than 30 K in El Centro and can be had for less depending on your Spanish. And don't worry about inflating prices in El Centro as the client base is primarily locals. Good luck.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2501920]Just had a succesful girlfriendly hour with a mileroticos young lady. Visit was 120 mil 24 mil taxi. I will bargain her down for sure LOL. What was interesting the security checked her temperature and had her sign papers. I thanked him based on yesterday fiasco. I got kisses, deep throat, fucked her doggy in front of the mirror, sensuous touches, cum shot on the titties. Great outing as is 97% of my interactions. Cheers and continue on with the overdramitization.[/QUOTE]I know your a little bit gun shy after what you have been thru, and apparently building admon is a little nervous hence the temperature checks and paper signing. You might want to consider another visit to El Centro which I'm going to throw out to you based on your "cheap charlie" credentials. You said you had this milerotics lady over for an hour, and it cost you 144 K including the taxi. Based on your photo's of this lady, and what I saw walking around El Centro today between 10 AM and 1 PM, you could of easily had three lady's of similar quality including staying at the Premier Plaza Hotel which has nice clean rooms, hot water, towels, fucking chairs, and porno.

So when your into one hour sessions, why bother with incall when you can just go to El Centro and get three times the value.

Blakman,

Are you trolling us? LOL! Popcorn, interracial porn, and a saucy tatted up provider. I fucking love it!

[QUOTE=Blakman;2501920]Just had a succesful girlfriendly hour with a mileroticos young lady. Visit was 120 mil 24 mil taxi. I will bargain her down for sure LOL. What was interesting the security checked her temperature and had her sign papers. I thanked him based on yesterday fiasco. I got kisses, deep throat, fucked her doggy in front of the mirror, sensuous touches, cum shot on the titties. Great outing as is 97% of my interactions. Cheers and continue on with the overdramitization.[/QUOTE]

Hey guys,

Just want to say that I've been checking this forum for the past month or so. Thank you all for the great posts. I am actually travelling to Colombia next weekend and will be staying in envigado. Blackman, Bootybandit, Surfer, and Jjbee, what places would you recommend to stay at or are have stayed at in the past that give no problem with chicas. I have a airbnb that was pretty cheap for my first week there but its pretty small so I don't want to bring any guests there. I can't pm because I haven't bought a membership. I am actually planning on using tinder a lot since I speak both languages and I'm Hispanic myself. Any tips you guys could give me would be greatly appreciated.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2501901]Surfer, I was actually being serious, in the sense that the Centro girls don't overvalue themselves, and you know exactly what to expect. Dirty Pure, if we will.

Blaktothebasicsman, when you find these girls, Tinder or otherwise, do you move the conversation to WhatsApp? If so, are you using your US number or a local? I changed my US number to a Business Account, then added a normal WhatsApp account for my local number. I've noticed a huge difference when talking to businesses and girls, as far as pricing. I can't say it's a sure thing or that I'm right or wrong, but I feel like it's made a difference. I also think instead of always focusing on price and time, maybe you can test these chicas by setting other expectations / rules, before approaching the payment. You want BBBJ, no hard drugs, photos, no taking shit or taking shits, etc. If she's a pain in the ass, then move on. I generally (back in the Summer of 2020) would say I don't like rules and being rushed. Then, would move into specifics if she wasn't already saying no or throwing out prices in USD. I think you need to hit Centro on Fri / Sat to build up some equity so another bad experience doesn't knock you down to 51%. If you don't mind, the next time you set up a long-term agreement, I'd like to come over and have some of that popcorn you leave out on the table![/QUOTE]If you eat the popcorn, you have to dance on the table in your underwear. Blakman has his rules.

[QUOTE=BootyBandit84;2501923]Hey everyone, I'm on day two of my first trip to Medellin. I'm staying in Laureles in the San Peter building which I really like and the staff has been great. Because of the rain I haven't done much exploring outside of this area and have been meeting FB and tinder girls, and have been paying between 150-200 mil. I'm really interested in checking out the ground game and plan on checking out centro (in the day time) and checking out lleras area nightlife this weekend. I definitely don't want to inflate prices, so what should be the max I keep my offers to?[/QUOTE]If you want to hit up El Centro tomorrow let me know. I'm in the same building and am planning on taking my annual stroll through El Centro tomorrow.

Don't worry about inflating prices. Unless you Do 15 Centro girls and 12 Parque Lleras girls in the next 2 days, you won't even be a blip on the radar.

For El Centro you shouldn't have to go over 30 k plus 10 k for the room. For Parque Lleras, if you're patient, you should be able to get them into the 200 k range.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2501920]Just had a succesful girlfriendly hour with a mileroticos young lady. Visit was 120 mil 24 mil taxi. I will bargain her down for sure LOL. What was interesting the security checked her temperature and had her sign papers. I thanked him based on yesterday fiasco. I got kisses, deep throat, fucked her doggy in front of the mirror, sensuous touches, cum shot on the titties. Great outing as is 97% of my interactions. Cheers and continue on with the overdramitization.[/QUOTE]Wow she is absolutely gorgeous, perfect shape and super sweet.

[QUOTE=BootyBandit84;2501923]Hey everyone, I'm on day two of my first trip to Medellin. I'm staying in Laureles in the San Peter building which I really like and the staff has been great. Because of the rain I haven't done much exploring outside of this area and have been meeting FB and tinder girls, and have been paying between 150-200 mil. I'm really interested in checking out the ground game and plan on checking out centro (in the day time) and checking out lleras area nightlife this weekend. I definitely don't want to inflate prices, so what should be the max I keep my offers to?[/QUOTE]Hi, can you please confirm if you've been able to take chicas back to your apartment as the San Peter building has been recommended a number of times as been chica friendly.

I agree at one hour it is over priced at 144 mil especially since 3 hrs is my standard hours for less than that. Explain the dynamics of the age thing at centro. The girls look so young it scares me. Do the hotels check cedula. Do you guys ask for cedula? Can you ask the receptionist to check there identification. Respond I might take a trip tomorrow. Covid is a concern but heck I might can do a few hours.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2501925]I know your a little bit gun shy after what you have been thru, and apparently building admon is a little nervous hence the temperature checks and paper signing. You might want to consider another visit to El Centro which I'm going to throw out to you based on your "cheap charlie" credentials. You said you had this milerotics lady over for an hour, and it cost you 144 K including the taxi. Based on your photo's of this lady, and what I saw walking around El Centro today between 10 AM and 1 PM, you could of easily had three lady's of similar quality including staying at the Premier Plaza Hotel which has nice clean rooms, hot water, towels, fucking chairs, and porno.

So when your into one hour sessions, why bother with incall when you can just go to El Centro and get three times the value.[/QUOTE].

Outfit needs work but who cares cause 1 HR they come off quickly.

[QUOTE=SteveDansavi;2501935]Wow she is absolutely gorgeous, perfect shape and super sweet.[/QUOTE].

San peters. I am looking to deal directly with a renter rather than airbnb to san peters. Theres a guy that rents out quite a few apartments there. Maybe you guys know him.

If you do can I have his contact.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2501933]If you want to hit up El Centro tomorrow let me know. I'm in the same building and am planning on taking my annual stroll through El Centro tomorrow.

Don't worry about inflating prices. Unless you Do 15 Centro girls and 12 Parque Lleras girls in the next 2 days, you won't even be a blip on the radar.

For El Centro you shouldn't have to go over 30 k plus 10 k for the room. For Parque Lleras, if you're patient, you should be able to get them into the 200 k range.[/QUOTE].

Since I have to make up for the $110 lost. Plain popcorn because of my diet and cheap cerveza is all they get these days. And let me tell you the girl was eating those popcorn like it was a domiciles delivery

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2501931]If you eat the popcorn, you have to dance on the table in your underwear. Blakman has his rules.[/QUOTE].

Actually I thought videoman jjbee would be the first to recognize the porn LOL.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2501927]Blakman,

Are you trolling us? LOL! Popcorn, interracial porn, and a saucy tatted up provider. I fucking love it![/QUOTE].

Dude you are hilarious. Of course I switch to whatsapp. Developed that 6 years ago. I fucked up it happened. Actually slapdontgetfull of yourself but the longterm ideal came from you LOL.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2501901]Surfer, I was actually being serious, in the sense that the Centro girls don't overvalue themselves, and you know exactly what to expect. Dirty Pure, if we will.

Blaktothebasicsman, when you find these girls, Tinder or otherwise, do you move the conversation to WhatsApp? If so, are you using your US number or a local? I changed my US number to a Business Account, then added a normal WhatsApp account for my local number. I've noticed a huge difference when talking to businesses and girls, as far as pricing. I can't say it's a sure thing or that I'm right or wrong, but I feel like it's made a difference. I also think instead of always focusing on price and time, maybe you can test these chicas by setting other expectations / rules, before approaching the payment. You want BBBJ, no hard drugs, photos, no taking shit or taking shits, etc. If she's a pain in the ass, then move on. I generally (back in the Summer of 2020) would say I don't like rules and being rushed. Then, would move into specifics if she wasn't already saying no or throwing out prices in USD. I think you need to hit Centro on Fri / Sat to build up some equity so another bad experience doesn't knock you down to 51%. If you don't mind, the next time you set up a long-term agreement, I'd like to come over and have some of that popcorn you leave out on the table![/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2501954]Hi, can you please confirm if you've been able to take chicas back to your apartment as the San Peter building has been recommended a number of times as been chica friendly.[/QUOTE]You seemed to answer your own question! From what reading.

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2501954]Hi, can you please confirm if you've been able to take chicas back to your apartment as the San Peter building has been recommended a number of times as been chica friendly.[/QUOTE]I brought 2 girls the first day and 3 girls today with no problems at all. They can only come one at a time and have to bring a cedula or passport.

But hearing you and jjbee discuss being peed on is out my league. I am sorry. Yeah I licked my 8 ass twice who is super clean. But peed on, peed on. Damnnnnnn

[QUOTE=Blakman;2501959]I agree at one hour it is over priced at 144 mil especially since 3 hrs is my standard hours for less than that. Explain the dynamics of the age thing at centro. The girls look so young it scares me. Do the hotels check cedula. Do you guys ask for cedula? Can you ask the receptionist to check there identification. Respond I might take a trip tomorrow. Covid is a concern but heck I might can do a few hours.

.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2501910]I was in El Centro between 10 AM and 1 PM today and most probably missed you. And if you used to actually surf Ocean Beach your okay in my book.[/QUOTE]Didn't make it today. Ended up hanging out and talking with a friend for half the afternoon and then had a Facebook girl over. Report coming soon.

I should be in El Centro tomorrow, probably between 11 and noon, possibly later.

There's a story behind the surf at Ocean Beach line. I'll fill you in tomorrow if I catch you.

[QUOTE=RacShack;2501914]The 2 showers you took were their hot water in both? May sound silly but a cold shower will mess my day up! LOL glad your going with the flow and having fun, I'm trying for next week, want to get their soon before they put the testing requirements back in place; speaking of of any body know the answer to the MIG APP, the part where the ask for test results, has that been updated and no longer asked and if not what's everyone doing what they get to that part?[/QUOTE]Yes. Energy has very nice rooms with good showers and plenty of hot water.

Go directly to the Migración website and fill out the information there. It doesn't ask for test results.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2501922]After reading your long awaited report, and it's a doozy I might add, I started laughing because a friend of mine has an obsession for squirters, and sent this photo of one that he has over to his place a few days ago. He apparently does all kinds of weird stuff with her, like having her squirt into a glass.

As far as getting pissed on, well I've actually only experienced once, and I didn't enjoy it much, but sounds like your expert in this arena so I will leave it at that.

Glad to hear your off to great start of your vacation, albeit a wet one.[/QUOTE]I'm not into squirters, but had a girlfriend who was a squirter. I made her squirt so many times in her car that it ended up smelling like the pedestrian bridge crossing the highway into Tijuana.

[QUOTE=Cinnas;2501930]Hey guys,

Just want to say that I've been checking this forum for the past month or so. Thank you all for the great posts. I am actually travelling to Colombia next weekend and will be staying in envigado. Blackman, Bootybandit, Surfer, and Jjbee, what places would you recommend to stay at or are have stayed at in the past that give no problem with chicas. I have a airbnb that was pretty cheap for my first week there but its pretty small so I don't want to bring any guests there. I can't pm because I haven't bought a membership. I am actually planning on using tinder a lot since I speak both languages and I'm Hispanic myself. Any tips you guys could give me would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]First advice is don't stay in Envigado. Don't get me wrong, I love Envigado, but it's a bit off the mongering map. Depending on your Budget there are plenty of chica friendly options around Parque Lleras, or a cheaper option is Laureles. If you have sufficient experience, there are also good options in El Centro. Hotel 47 comes highly recommended.

Next advice is don't rely on Tinder. There are more problem girls on Tinder than anywhere else. You'll spend less, get better and have less problems through Facebook.

Last bit of advice, pay the membership.

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2501954]Hi, can you please confirm if you've been able to take chicas back to your apartment as the San Peter building has been recommended a number of times as been chica friendly.[/QUOTE]I can confirm it. Girl is required to have her cedula and they check the temperature of everyone entering the building.

Had a friend visit with me today. He has stayed here before and the receptionist recognized him. He still had to show ID.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2501961]San peters. I am looking to deal directly with a renter rather than airbnb to san peters. Theres a guy that rents out quite a few apartments there. Maybe you guys know him.

If you do can I have his contact..[/QUOTE]I don't know him, but if you talk to the receptionist here, they can probably set you up.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2501976]But hearing you and jjbee discuss being peed on is out my league. I am sorry. Yeah I licked my 8 ass twice who is super clean. But peed on, peed on. Damnnnnnn.[/QUOTE]That's why it's better to stick with the younger girls. Not many girls who squirt accidentally.

Has anyone ever taken a chick to La Isla, or noticed any non-working females in there? I can't recall, but I've only been there twice, and late in the night.



*UPDATE*

La Isla just told me "couples" can enter. They are checking on if a female would be allowed to enter the rooms...

I will try that

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2501991]I don't know him, but if you talk to the receptionist here, they can probably set you up.[/QUOTE].

I consider squirting different than being peed on. Though squirting is pee.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2501993]That's why it's better to stick with the younger girls. Not many girls who squirt accidentally.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Blakman;2501959]I agree at one hour it is over priced at 144 mil especially since 3 hrs is my standard hours for less than that. Explain the dynamics of the age thing at centro. The girls look so young it scares me. Do the hotels check cedula. Do you guys ask for cedula? Can you ask the receptionist to check there identification. Respond I might take a trip tomorrow. Covid is a concern but heck I might can do a few hours..[/QUOTE]To play it safe, stick with either the Premier Plaza Hotel by the intersection of Calle / Carrea 52 or the Zona Rosa Hotel opposite the Veracruz Church within the pedestrian walkway. They will check Cedulas. I don't recommend using the Hotels on the backside of the Church, that's where a lot of the girls work out of, so that should explain why you shouldn't use them.

I was at Zona Rosa today with one of my skanks, and the receptionists remembered me with smiles and brought me out a second towel without asking, but I do tip them 1000 K each, so I get preferred service and rooms there.

I will be in El Centro most of the day Friday for an early and late afternoon bombing run.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2501986]I'm not into squirters, but had a girlfriend who was a squirter. I made her squirt so many times in her car that it ended up smelling like the pedestrian bridge crossing the highway into Tijuana.[/QUOTE]Hmmm, not into squirters but you encouraged it many times with a girlfriend. That sounds like somebody into squirters, but I believe you meaning you don't search them out, but are experienced in dealing with them.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2501924]El Centro pricing at times can be like buying a car, there will be a sticker price and then a final negotiated price depending on exactly what your looking for. Retail pricing is no more than 30 K in El Centro and can be had for less depending on your Spanish. And don't worry about inflating prices in El Centro as the client base is primarily locals. Good luck.[/QUOTE]It's tough for me to negotiate off 30 K.

I almost always pick sweet girls and just can't see going lower than that.

I'll pay retail and feel good about it.

I arrived in Medellin today. Earlier than I expected to get here, but I had a chance to jump on a flight today and I took it!

That App was easy to download and complete, and I believe it actually sped up the immigration process for all, because all the information they usually ask for is already there for them.

I'm staying in Centro this trip.

I was walking Botero by about 5 pm. I literally just hit the Plaza when I passed by these 3 Venezolanas standing by the statues.

One of them was very cute and had a great booty.

I called her over and we chatted a bit, and she was a sweetheart.

There's a lot of trash out in Centro, however, as others have said, there are some real sweet and hot ones as well.

I wanted to make a walk around the Plaza and Veracruz but I didn't want to pass this girl up.

Glad I didn't.

We went to Premium Plaza, and ended up staying about 2 hours together.

She was like a candy M & M melting in your mouth, yummy, sweet.

She was clean, very pretty, perfumed nicely, a great catch.

Welcome back to Medellin, me! LOL.

After my fun with her, we walked back to Botero together, she departed for home, and I heard a few girls calling me over.

They were some Chamas (Venezolanas) that I befriended a while back.

We greeted and hugged, chatted a bit, etc, and I took the hotter of the 3 back to the hotel, tho I wasn't really looking for more fun, I figured wtf.

Great time with her as well, tho I had to heavy concentrate to finish after twice already w the first Chama.

Eating a little dinner now, I'll run a recon in the Strip clubs out here then Lleras for a peak.

Maybe I'll see the group out hunting tomorrow. Surfer, JjB, Blackman?, who knows.

I surfed and still do, the east coast, Sebastian Inlet, Cocoa Beach.

I usually wear a tshirt w a sports team logo.

Feliz noche para todos!

Good to be back!

Hey guys,

great content. I wanted to go in December to Medellin. I know they don't need pcsr test anymore. However do they still want you to download the coronoapp and check in every day? And if so did they want you to report everyone you hanged out with every day? From what I am reading its just a entry form you have to fill out 24 hours before entry. Also what do you think about traveling for three weeks in December I am concerned they might close the borders down and I can't return state side until it reopens.

Blakman,

You like Arnold Schwarzenegger in his prime. 90% of the girls you get would hit you up for free.

Has anyone normal looking on this forum gotten the similar deals as Blackman? The deals I was getting pre covid was 150 k plus taxi per hour for a Blakman 6.5. What should the normal man around mid 30's be looking to pay for a four hour Blakman 8? TLN? Week long stay? All my numbers seem way too low now.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2501920]Just had a succesful girlfriendly hour with a mileroticos young lady. Visit was 120 mil 24 mil taxi. I will bargain her down for sure LOL. What was interesting the security checked her temperature and had her sign papers. I thanked him based on yesterday fiasco. I got kisses, deep throat, fucked her doggy in front of the mirror, sensuous touches, cum shot on the titties. Great outing as is 97% of my interactions. Cheers and continue on with the overdramitization.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blakman;2502001]I consider squirting different than being peed on. Though squirting is pee..[/QUOTE]Actually, real squirting is different from pee. For some it happens involuntarily when aroused. Some girls do try to fake it with pee.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2501961]San peters. I am looking to deal directly with a renter rather than airbnb to san peters. Theres a guy that rents out quite a few apartments there. Maybe you guys know him.

If you do can I have his contact..[/QUOTE]PM me. I can help.

I wanted to get a membership but if I don't use my credit card its going to be like 2 weeks before I get it back, trip will almost be over by then. But I will for next time.

How do you find these girls on fb? I tried to look but no luck.

Thank you for the heads up about the tinder girls, I guess I should learn from Blakman's experience specially since this is my first trip.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2501986]I'm not into squirters, but had a girlfriend who was a squirter. I made her squirt so many times in her car that it ended up smelling like the pedestrian bridge crossing the highway into Tijuana.[/QUOTE]Hahaha that brings back memories. The very first time I crossed that bridge I thought I was walking into the land of Narnia. I didn't know where the fuck I was going and was asking for directions like a lost puppy. The border patrol aren't much help either as they think you're out to spread the gospel.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2502023]It's tough for me to negotiate off 30 K.

I almost always pick sweet girls and just can't see going lower than that.

I'll pay retail and feel good about it.

I arrived in Medellin today. Earlier than I expected to get here, but I had a chance to jump on a flight today and I took it!

That App was easy to download and complete, and I believe it actually sped up the immigration process for all, because all the information they usually ask for is already there for them.

I'm staying in Centro this trip.

I was walking Botero by about 5 pm. I literally just hit the Plaza when I passed by these 3 Venezolanas standing by the statues.

One of them was very cute and had a great booty.

I called her over and we chatted a bit, and she was a sweetheart...[/QUOTE]Welcome back. I'll be doing the rounds about 11:30 with BootyBandit today. Putting on my black Guinness shirt. I'm easy to spot.

Met some guys in Lleras last night. Had some tacos at Ajua, then watched football at Patrick's. Left around 11:30 and walked down to Parque Poblado to catch a taxi, just for old times sake. There were some fine looking ones working the park last night. Didn't ask for prices since I wasn't buying.

Ajua is a little Mexican restaurant a block down from the Beer Store. Good tacos. 9 tacos al pastor, 2 Club Colombias and a coke, 61k. Not cheap, but not crazy.

[QUOTE=RacShack;2501970]You seemed to answer your own question! From what reading.[/QUOTE]Exactly how did I answer my own question since I'm not on the ground? Yes it has been a recommended place for bringing girls back but in case you have not noticed the current situation is extremely dynamic and likely to change on a whim which is the reason for gathering the latest intel. What was allowed 1 month ago does not automatically apply today and I'm sure as hell not going to be happy paying for an airbnb upfront and then finding out I'm not allowed to bring girls back.

To the guys on the ground that have confirmed there are no issues, I appreciate it. Damn I'm so tempted to go this month rather than wait until Jan as there are some great reports coming out.

I've been talking with this girl for 5 or 6 months. Originally was put in contact with her when I was buying videos, except she never sent videos. She was living with her jealous ex boyfriend, so she could only message me when he was gone. Then she'd videochat me. In the shower, in bed, with a girlfriend. Afterwards she would tell me to send what I thought was fair. Because of her boyfriend, I couldn't message her.

Finally she got her own place. She still would surprise me with videocalls or short videos but seldom asked for money. When I went through the phase of writing porn stories for some of the non-pros, I also sent them to Manuela. These were the stories that couldn't possibly be of any interest to any Colombian because I'm not fluent in Spanish, according to some.

Anyway.

Manuela is slender, about 5'3", dark skin, big eyes. Her breast size falls between the 2nd and 3rd letter of the alphabet. Slight droop, but just enough to be pleasing. Small booty, but not flat, no kids, quite a few of the typical tattoos, pierced nipples and navel. There were a few stretch marks top of her booty, but nothing bad. She arrived in some drawstring pants and a reasonable shirt that showed off her cleavage.

Sat and talked for a few minutes and she wanted to smoke some weed. I opened the window and she started smoking and started talking about the porn stories I had written. She talked for 10 minutes about the stories. Made me chuckle a little bit.

After her smoke session she said she had a surprise, headed to the bathroom and changed into a mesh bra and panty set. She straddled my lap and it was time to get busy. She did quite a bit of lap dancing and took some reasonably hard spanks with no problem and had no complaints about my belt around her neck. I was able to manhandle her however I wanted, but she wasn't submissive. Overall great attitude. She's vocal without disturbing the neighbors.

Her BBBJ included a titty fuck with lube and spit and was decent. No deepthroat, but no teeth either. In the bedroom, DATY, Mish, CG, Standing and back to CG for the finish (all covered). She made a comment that she had brought some lube but didn't need it and she didn't. Nice and wet. Not exceptionally tight, but not sloppy either.

Paid 200k, which she didn't even look at. She stayed just over 2 hours and was pleasant the whole time.

[QUOTE=Duncan216;2502038]Blakman,

You like Arnold Schwarzenegger in his prime. 90% of the girls you get would hit you up for free.

Has anyone normal looking on this forum gotten the similar deals as Blackman? The deals I was getting pre covid was 150 k plus taxi per hour for a Blakman 6.5. What should the normal man around mid 30's be looking to pay for a four hour Blakman 8? TLN? Week long stay? All my numbers seem way too low now.[/QUOTE]I don't really understand your question. But, I will emphasize to you that you should leave any self-consciousness about your appearance (especially if you're "normal-looking) at home. Its not a factor here.

If you have any insight to the female psyche, you understand that someone like Arnold gets nearly unlimited female interest is due far more to the rich/famous factor that the appearance factor. Female sexuality is far, far different than male.

Additionally, I'll say that it is nearly impossible to know what another person "sees" when they look at you. There are thousands of cultural factors and past associations, unique to that particular observer, in play. On the other hand, I believe everyone should make an effort to look their best most of the time. Anything less is an undignified way of living.

And, read the forum discussions about dressing to fit in here bit and not look like a dorky, vulnerable, out of place gringo. Its been a recurring topic of discussion over the years.
"I usually wear a tshirt w a sports team logo." is not really it

Actually read it as was challenged by my best friend. Google it an get back to me.

[QUOTE=MMHikeus;2502040]Actually, real squirting is different from pee. For some it happens involuntarily when aroused. Some girls do try to fake it with pee.[/QUOTE].

But damn that's how I feel when I stick my dick in them and eat there pussy til they cum. You owe me be**ch

[QUOTE=Duncan216;2502038]Blakman,

You like Arnold Schwarzenegger in his prime. 90% of the girls you get would hit you up for free. Plus a body oil massage. Not to mention my famous popcorn.

Has anyone normal looking on this forum gotten the similar deals as Blackman? The deals I was getting pre covid was 150 k plus taxi per hour for a Blakman 6.5. What should the normal man around mid 30's be looking to pay for a four hour Blakman 8? TLN? Week long stay? All my numbers seem way too low now.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Gandi718;2502031]I wanted to go in December to Medellin. I know they don't need pcsr test anymore. However do they still want you to download the coronoapp and check in every day? And if so did they want you to report everyone you hanged out with every day?[/QUOTE]Downloading and following up with the app has never been a requirement as far as I know. I know it hasn't been for the past month.

[QUOTE=Gandi718;2502031]From what I am reading its just a entry form you have to fill out 24 hours before entry.[/QUOTE]You must fill out the entry form at [URL]https://apps.migracioncolombia.gov.co/pre-registro/public/preregistro.jsf[/URL], or be delayed at MDE while you provide all the information.

[QUOTE=Gandi718;2502031]Also what do you think about traveling for three weeks in December I am concerned they might close the borders down and I can't return state side until it reopens.[/QUOTE]United States citizens and premanent residents have never been prohibited from leaving Colombia nor returning to the United States.

[QUOTE=Duncan216;2502038]Has anyone normal looking on this forum gotten the similar deals as Blackman? The deals I was getting pre covid was 150 k plus taxi per hour for a Blakman 6.5. What should the normal man around mid 30's be looking to pay for a four hour Blakman 8? TLN? Week long stay? All my numbers seem way too low now.[/QUOTE]One key thing you left out is how you were getting the deal that you got. Nobody can tell you anything without that information. Years before Blakman came along telling his fabulous stories I was doing the same thing, but I was called a liar because it was impossible for these things to happen. I would even lay out exactly how something is done. For me it was all too natural and I could not see how it was NOT possible seeing that I was living it. The thing with all the doubters is they never TRIED any of these methods to see if it actually worked, they only went on the experience of it never happened for them before so it is not possible.

Maybe it is just ingrained in people to do the same old thing they have always been doing and not try something else. Just like the tipping discussion. No matter how much you tell guys to leave that shit in their country, they may not feel right inside if they do not do it anyway; even though in places like Japan it is actually considered an insult. But you can not tell them anything because that is how it is done where they are from and they have no cultural sensitivity.

Unlike SR, I have never found a hooker to give a rat's ass what I was wearing. Half of you guys are getting the chicks from online anyway so really how would she know you were not dressed like Bruce Wayne at his $100,000/plate foundation dinner? Now if you were making a date to go to a fashion show things may be different, but you are making a date to take all of that shit off anyway.

How much should you be looking to pay? That depends on how much you are willing to pay and how much she is willing to accept. The reason why people do not get deals like Blakman is because they simply do not ask. They treat chicks like a shopping mall back in their own country. The price on the tag is the price that you pay. So obviously the price that the girl tells them is the price they must pay.

I do not think I have ever lived by those rules and that is why I am in the Cheap Charlie Hall of Fame along with Blakman. I don't accept the first price as the final price. I open my mouth and negotiate. A lot of people do a lot of unnecessary shit and make things harder than they really are.

When I bought my car, no down payment. When I bought my house, no down payment. (Not sure why people make it a big deal to close on a house. I was in and out of the room in 10 minutues while other people are talking about months.) Like most people I was asked how much I wanted to put down. But unlike most people I did not assume it was a requirement so I told them zero. And they said okay. When I bought my motorcycle off ebay I paid $700 less than what the guy had it listed for ($3700) because I simply opened my mouth (or my keyboard actually) and asked. When I buy my guns I never pay the price that is asked. At the very least they will take off the tax. But none of this happens without asking.

Another thing people make complicated is divorce. Why the hell would it take years to get a divorce? It only takes a few hours. I did my own. I asked my wife how she wanted to split the stuff up. I looked online for an example of how to write the document, and I went to the courthouse to file it for like $55. Most people expect it to be a process that is going to rip them off, so they accept it as a long drawn out process whose purpose is ripping them off.

Hookers are no different than anything else. See the price and negotiate it down. One of my favorite movies give a good example of how this is done. I use some of the exact techniques. Chick tells me x amount. I say no I only want 2 hours; you are giving me the price for 2 weeks. Or chick tells me a price and I say but this is all my mother allows me to spend.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EKqDCFcIck[/URL]

As with anything it becomes easier and second nature with practice. Can every hooker on the planet be negotiated down? No. But there are enough of them that can that it makes no difference. I have never seen a turtle with speed or a broad that I need. I look at it as I am doing her a favor and trying to help her out. My money is doing good right here in my pocket. If she does not want to accept what I am willing to spend then I have no problem searching for someone else that will.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2502129]

Additionally, I'll say that it is nearly impossible to know what another person "sees" when they look at you. There are thousands of cultural factors and past associations, unique to that particular observer, in play. On the other hand, I believe everyone should make an effort to look their best most of the time. Anything less is an undignified way of living.

And, read the forum discussions about dressing to fit in here bit and not look like a dorky, vulnerable, out of place gringo. Its been a recurring topic of discussion over the years.
"I usually wear a tshirt w a sports team logo." is not really it[/QUOTE]Haha, I was reading your post thinking, exactly, this guy makes sense, til I read the remark about "a dorky, vulnerable, out of place gringo" / tshirt with a sports logo", Lol.

It's only about what half the guys out walking Botero wear, locals.

Soccer jerseys, logo tshirts, etc.

And dude, I've been walking Medellin and all of Colombia before you even knew it existed.

I've befriended many, I'm a pretty cool guy (IMO anyway, LOL), speak fluent Spanish, definitely know what I'm doing, and being a "dorky, vulnerable, out of place gringo" haha is not me.

Interesting that yesterday, arriving at immigration, the official that I approached to check passport, etc, recognized me from previous trips, and he chatted with me about Brazil, the USA etc for about 5-10 min.
Im no better than anyone else, Ive just been around, and made the effort, starting many moons back to fit in, and not be a dorky, vulnerable, out of place gringo, lol.

Sometimes guys just can't resist making dumb remarks to make themselves feel better.

Peace!

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2501643]Be yourself, if you're "nice" be nice. But it gets you no dividends, don't fool yourself.
[/QUOTE]Definitely disagree with that statement.

Being nice pays back big.

It's common sense.

Meet a girl, chat, comment nicely on her looks, ask about kids, family etc.

It's all about making her feel comfortable.

Pays big dividends!

There's a big difference between being nice and being bobo.

Being nice is great, just got to know when someone is trying to take advantage, and shut it down.

Common sense stuff.

[QUOTE=Duncan216;2502038]Blakman,

You like Arnold Schwarzenegger in his prime. 90% of the girls you get would hit you up for free.

Has anyone normal looking on this forum gotten the similar deals as Blackman? The deals I was getting pre covid was 150 k plus taxi per hour for a Blakman 6.5. What should the normal man around mid 30's be looking to pay for a four hour Blakman 8? TLN? Week long stay? All my numbers seem way too low now.[/QUOTE]What deal are you talking about? The one where the gal called the cops.

Don't believe everything you read here. You get what you pay for. Movie stars don't go for Centro rates. An 8 in Medellin is not a movie star but well above normal. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Wait till you get there, meet some guys in person and see what they are getting and for how much.

I was with a guy in Centro who bragged about paying 15 to 20 k for beauties. Then I saw what he considered beauties. Dirty nasty glue sniffer types. And this guy is a veteran monger. But these gals would walk up to him and talk to him like he was the king and that made him feel good.

[QUOTE=Cinnas;2502054]I wanted to get a membership but if I don't use my credit card its going to be like 2 weeks before I get it back, trip will almost be over by then. But I will for next time.

How do you find these girls on fb? I tried to look but no luck.

Thank you for the heads up about the tinder girls, I guess I should learn from Blakman's experience specially since this is my first trip.[/QUOTE]Go to the General Topics thread. Search for Facebook. Look for my post. I wrote a step by step guide to build a Facebook list.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2502135]Actually read it as was challenged by my best friend. Google it an get back to me..[/QUOTE]Or I could try to find try to find the name of my exgf's OB / GYN. She opted for a full hysterectomy, rather than just getting her tubes tied. During his examination of her he pointed out, I'll try to explain this. As we age our internals shift a bit. With men it means that your penis will likely start to get smaller, as it gets pulled inward. With women it changes the alignment of the urethra which makes bladder control difficult. The older they get, the more difficult. Laughing, sneezing, or a good orgasm and control slips. The result, during sex is squirting.

During the hysterectomy he rearranged her plumbing and no more squirting.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2502198]Haha, I was reading your post thinking, exactly, this guy makes sense, til I read the remark about "a dorky, vulnerable, out of place gringo" / tshirt with a sports logo", Lol.

It's only about what half the guys out walking Botero wear, locals.

Soccer jerseys, logo tshirts, etc.

And dude, I've been walking Medellin and all of Colombia before you even knew it existed.

I've befriended many, I'm a pretty cool guy (IMO anyway, LOL), speak fluent Spanish, definitely know what I'm doing, and being a "dorky, vulnerable, out of place gringo" haha is not me.

Interesting that yesterday, arriving at immigration, the official that I approached to check passport, etc, recognized me from previous trips, and he chatted with me about Brazil, the USA etc for about 5-10 min.
Im no better than anyone else, Ive just been around, and made the effort, starting many moons back to fit in, and not be a dorky, vulnerable, out of place gringo, lol.

Sometimes guys just can't resist making dumb remarks to make themselves feel better.

Peace![/QUOTE]Hawaiian shirts. Cargo shorts. Black socks and sandals (with cargo shorts). Cowboy boots. Cowboy hats. Although not complete, that's most of the "dress like a dork" list.

I stick with jeans, t-shirts or polos and some comfortable sneakers. I'd feel fine wearing something with some team logo and I expect it would only attract good attention.

Its all good. I got my greatness from you lol0

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2502178]One key thing you left out is how you were getting the deal that you got. Nobody can tell you anything without that information. Years before Blakman came along telling his fabulous stories I was doing the same thing, but I was called a liar because it was impossible for these things to happen. I would even lay out exactly how something is done. For me it was all too natural and I could not see how it was NOT possible seeing that I was living it. The thing with all the doubters is they never TRIED any of these methods to see if it actually worked, they only went on the experience of it never happened for them before so it is not possible.

Maybe it is just ingrained in people to do the same old thing they have always been doing and not try something else. Just like the tipping discussion. No matter how much you tell guys to leave that shit in their country, they may not feel right inside if they do not do it anyway; even though in places like Japan it is actually considered an insult. But you can not tell them anything because that is how it is done where they are from and they have no cultural sensitivity.

Unlike SR, I have never found a hooker to give a rat's ass what I was wearing. Half of you guys are getting the chicks from online anyway so really how would she know you were not dressed like Bruce Wayne at his $100,000/plate foundation dinner? Now if you were making a date to go to a fashion show things may be different, but you are making a date to take all of that shit off anyway.

How much should you be looking to pay? That depends on how much you are willing to pay and how much she is willing to accept. The reason why people do not get deals like Blakman is because they simply do not ask. They treat chicks like a shopping mall back in their own country. The price on the tag is the price that you pay. So obviously the price that the girl tells them is the price they must pay.

I do not think I have ever lived by those rules and that is why I am in the Cheap Charlie Hall of Fame along with Blakman. I don't accept the first price as the final price. I open my mouth and negotiate. A lot of people do a lot of unnecessary shit and make things harder than they really are.

When I bought my car, no down payment. When I bought my house, no down payment. (Not sure why people make it a big deal to close on a house. I was in and out of the room in 10 minutues while other people are talking about months.) Like most people I was asked how much I wanted to put down. But unlike most people I did not assume it was a requirement so I told them zero. And they said okay. When I bought my motorcycle off ebay I paid $700 less than what the guy had it listed for ($3700) because I simply opened my mouth (or my keyboard actually) and asked. When I buy my guns I never pay the price that is asked. At the very least they will take off the tax. But none of this happens without asking.

Another thing people make complicated is divorce. Why the hell would it take years to get a divorce? It only takes a few hours. I did my own. I asked my wife how she wanted to split the stuff up. I looked online for an example of how to write the document, and I went to the courthouse to file it for like $55. Most people expect it to be a process that is going to rip them off, so they accept it as a long drawn out process whose purpose is ripping them off.

Hookers are no different than anything else. See the price and negotiate it down. One of my favorite movies give a good example of how this is done. I use some of the exact techniques. Chick tells me x amount. I say no I only want 2 hours; you are giving me the price for 2 weeks. Or chick tells me a price and I say but this is all my mother allows me to spend.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EKqDCFcIck[/URL]

As with anything it becomes easier and second nature with practice. Can every hooker on the planet be negotiated down? No. But there are enough of them that can that it makes no difference. I have never seen a turtle with speed or a broad that I need. I look at it as I am doing her a favor and trying to help her out. My money is doing good right here in my pocket. If she does not want to accept what I am willing to spend then I have no problem searching for someone else that will.[/QUOTE].

Took a fellow board member on a much longer walk around El Centro than he expected (sorry man). Started out walking from our building to the metro, Estadio station and got off at San Antonio. Coming from Poblado I would get off at Parque Berrio, but from Laureles it's not worth changing trains and dealing with the crowds to go 4 blocks.

Walked from the station to Plaza Botero. Seems to be a lot more kiosks set up than before. Plaza Botero wasn't particularly crowded, but saw several girls hanging out. Made a lap around the plaza, before heading down the Veracruz alley. Didn't see any trannies out today. Saw several who were tempting along the Veracruz block and saw a couple of more decent ones over by Raudal. From there headed up to the Junin walking street and pointed out a few restaurants, before taking a short break in Parque Bolivar.

From there the tour went downhill, except we were going uphill. I had planned on pointing out a few of the casas, particularly New Life, but after crossing Oriental I zigged when I should have zagged and lost my sense of direction. Did manage to get to Parque de LOS periodistas and eventually to New Life. For some reason nothing looked familiar today. Maybe dementia is setting in.

I did finally get us going the right direction and got back to Parque Berrio. Took the metro to Industriales and Ciudad del Rio, looking for my favorite Italian restaurant. It's closed. Gone. Grabbed a taxi back to Laureles and had lunch at SaludPan.

SaludPan is a bit more expensive, but they have an excellent menu of the day with vegetarian and vegan options along with meat options. The menu changes daily. Highly recommended.

I decide to go see a mileroticos chica. Her price was 70 mil an hour. The addres happened to be right next to energy life. I ended up in energy life and host was trying to tell me we have the real carolina next door is lower level carolina. Energy had the girls coming out and the choices look good. But anyways 70 mil looks good as well so off I go next door. Walk upstairs and meet my Carolina. Well Carolina was a little bit thicker than her pics. I thought about skipping out but that didn't go well this week. And really she wasnt bad. She tries to put on music yall no the deal I tell her play mines. I need to sell this playlist its so fucking effective. I get a sexy kiss and kisses. There is chemistry. I told her I like great blow jobs. She tries to upsell but i say prefer condom. Lets stay at 70 mil. I put on the condom she starts out slow and looks me in the eyes. She then goes deep throat and stays there so I give her some help with my hands on her head. No resistance. Ok fuck mouth city here I go. I fuck her mouth for about 10 minutes. She comes back up for air and goes back down. I mean I am pressing down on her head to the max. She likes it, go little further say she loves it. Gives me head for like 15 minutes. She gets on top the riding is good. We go to doggy and she has a long mirror we can see ourself. Dicking it down and she has good moans. I am looking in the mirror admiring my diet. I see a 6 pck LOL. I ask her get on all fours. My new position I love. Giving her more doggy. Then we go to missionary. I tried real hard to come but had to have her jerk me off. I then went to san peters to see about an apartment, then i went to centro to find hotel premiere plaza. The taxi driver sent me on a wild goose chase i finally i found it right near church. I didnt see much. Wasnt in the mood to hang around since i am now reduce to a 1nut maybe 2 nut man. Bought some fruits and veggies grab taxi and headed home. Surfer i think i would have to live or stay in that area to appreciate Centri. I cannot deal with the dumpsters on a daily basis. I think i want to give energy life a shot though its pricey.

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2502118]Exactly how did I answer my own question since I'm not on the ground? Yes it has been a recommended place for bringing girls back but in case you have not noticed the current situation is extremely dynamic and likely to change on a whim which is the reason for gathering the latest intel. What was allowed 1 month ago does not automatically apply today and I'm sure as hell not going to be happy paying for an airbnb upfront and then finding out I'm not allowed to bring girls back.

To the guys on the ground that have confirmed there are no issues, I appreciate it. Damn I'm so tempted to go this month rather than wait until Jan as there are some great reports coming out.[/QUOTE]Some of my post got cut off? Anyway I here your concerns about what's happening now on ground, I'm also with you about jumping on plane very soon before things (requires test) change again, stay safe, party hard!

The brand X Carolina is cute Blakman. She is a little thicker than I normally go with but something about her photo is very appealing.

Energy as you say is pricey. You are paying extra for the very clean and comfortable rooms and the well groomed providers. I mention this because you might experience some frustration because of your ongoing conversion into a Centro rat.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2502244]I decide to go see a mileroticos chica. Her price was 70 mil an hour. The addres happened to be right next to energy life. I ended up in energy life and host was trying to tell me we have the real carolina next door is lower level carolina. Energy had the girls coming out and the choices look good. But anyways 70 mil looks good as well so off I go next door. Walk upstairs and meet my Carolina. Well Carolina was a little bit thicker than her pics. I thought about skipping out but that didn't go well this week. And really she wasnt bad. She tries to put on music yall no the deal I tell her play mines. I need to sell this playlist its so fucking effective. I get a sexy kiss and kisses. There is chemistry. I told her I like great blow jobs. She tries to upsell but i say prefer condom. Lets stay at 70 mil. I put on the condom she starts out slow and looks me in the eyes. She then goes deep throat and stays there so I give her some help with my hands on her head. No resistance. Ok fuck mouth city here I go. I fuck her mouth for about 10 minutes. She comes back up for air and goes back down. I mean I am pressing down on her head to the max. She likes it, go little further say she loves it. Gives me head for like 15 minutes. She gets on top the riding is good. We go to doggy and she has a long mirror we can see ourself. Dicking it down and she has good moans. I am looking in the mirror admiring my diet. I see a 6 pck LOL. I ask her get on all fours. My new position I love. Giving her more doggy. Then we go to missionary. I tried real hard to come but had to have her jerk me off. I then went to san peters to see about an apartment, then i went to centro to find hotel premiere plaza. The taxi driver sent me on a wild goose chase i finally i found it right near church. I didnt see much. Wasnt in the mood to hang around since i am now reduce to a 1nut maybe 2 nut man. Bought some fruits and veggies grab taxi and headed home. Surfer i think i would have to live or stay in that area to appreciate Centri. I cannot deal with the dumpsters on a daily basis. I think i want to give energy life a shot though its pricey.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Balboa;2502204]Definitely disagree with that statement.

Being nice pays back big.

It's common sense.

Meet a girl, chat, comment nicely on her looks, ask about kids, family etc.

It's all about making her feel comfortable.

Pays big dividends!

There's a big difference between being nice and being bobo.

Being nice is great, just got to know when someone is trying to take advantage, and shut it down.

Common sense stuff.[/QUOTE]Agree. If it makes the mongerer feel better to be selfish about it then think of it as being motivational for the one you are about to fuck. If someone thinks there is no difference between fucking a motivated, happy girl compared to the opposite, then I feel for your not being able to tell the difference. Or maybe being satisfied with the least is the smarter way to go, who is to say? If any wet hole will do then do any wet hole. But here is one concrete example of a "payoff" from being "nice" or however you want to put it. One of my regular putas in a brothel had fantastic skills. I got started out at the going flat rate and as anyone knows who had been there, the "extras" after that are negotiable. Not the first time, or the second, or the fourth, but soon I was fucking her for the standard flat rate and getting everything and anything I wanted at no extra charge. No bullshit, no upcharges, whatever my warped mind could dream up. We had sessions that I could have been charged triple of what I paid with the exception being, we actually liked each other. We never got together outside the brothel, but I knew she lived with her kid and mom. One time I walked her to the bus stop when I kept her late. Our relationship was strictly professional and she was definitely NOT one of my "regular" non-professional girls I talk about a lot here. She was full time in the brothel. Being nice and showing some human interest in her beyond a wet hole probably saved me 50% cash overall. Sometimes I bought lunch for all the girls (it was a small place) but everything was returned to me and then some. I normally don't go back to the same girl at a brothel over and over but she was that good, a master of the Venezuelan Soft Swirl blow job with endurance longer than her shift. And much more. I think if a guy is happy not engaging a girl on any level other than purely physical, then he can happily continue. However, if someone can appreciate what a little psychological and emotional motivation can do for a "wet hole," then play the game.

I don't ever think I can get comfortable with the undesirables and extent you have to go to find a solid person in centro. The price is luring though. I love grocery shopping and now I am getting into shopping so it as potential outside of mongering. I love laureles, theres casas stacked everywhere. Lleras park is losing ground cause 200 mil is above the price I want to pay for the quality girls. And average girls are following the trend.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2502266]The brand X Carolina is cute Blakman. She is a little thicker than I normally go with but something about her photo is very appealing.

Energy as you say is pricey. You are paying extra for the very clean and comfortable rooms and the well groomed providers. I mention this because you might experience some frustration because of your ongoing conversion into a Centro rat.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2502229]As we age our internals shift a bit. With women it changes the alignment of the urethra which makes bladder control difficult. The older they get, the more difficult. Laughing, sneezing, or a good orgasm and control slips. The result, during sex is squirting. During the hysterectomy he rearranged her plumbing and no more squirting.[/QUOTE]But all the chicks that I have been with that squirted (at least 10 - 3 of them being hookers) were young ladies, not old ass women whose internals had shifted.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2502244] then i went to centro to find hotel premiere plaza. The taxi driver sent me on a wild goose chase i finally i found it right near church. I didnt see much. Wasnt in the mood to hang around since i am now reduce to a 1nut maybe 2 nut man. Bought some fruits and veggies grab taxi and headed home. Surfer i think i would have to live or stay in that area to appreciate Centri. I cannot deal with the dumpsters on a daily basis. I think i want to give energy life a shot though its pricey.[/QUOTE]Premier Plaza Hotel has a balcony above it and is on the same side of the Church about 150 feet away. I would suggest that next time your in El Centro, go around 5 PM and go inside the Premier Plaza Hotel, ask them if you can buy some beverages and sit on their balcony while consuming your drinks. From there you will be able to observe and see most of the girls that work the area walking by. You don't need to live or stay there, but you cannot expect to show up, spend a small amount of time there, and understand and really see what is available.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2502232]Hawaiian shirts. Cargo shorts. Black socks and sandals (with cargo shorts). Cowboy boots. Cowboy hats. Although not complete, that's most of the "dress like a dork" list.

I stick with jeans, t-shirts or polos and some comfortable sneakers. I'd feel fine wearing something with some team logo and I expect it would only attract good attention.[/QUOTE]I guess ima continue looking like a gringo with my cargo shorts because it is way too hot to be wearing some jeans for me in these hot ass climates.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2502288]But all the chicks that I have been with that squirted (at least 10 - 3 of them being hookers) were young ladies, not old ass women whose internals had shifted.[/QUOTE]I've been with girls who squirted too. The shift in the bladder, etc just makes it more likely. If you're doing women over 40, it's a more common occurrence, at least that's my experience and what the doctor explained. There's 2 likely possible causes and a less likely one.

1. The woman already has an issue with bladder control, causing the squirting. If that's the case, it's probably going to be a regular thing.

2. The woman orgasmed so hard, she completely lost control. If that's the case, it's probably going to be a rare occurrence.

3. The unlikely answer, the girl intentionally lets loose because she's watched too much porn and thinks it's normal. Had a webcam model who kept doing that until I told her to stop.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2502288]But all the chicks that I have been with that squirted (at least 10 - 3 of them being hookers) were young ladies, not old ass women whose internals had shifted.[/QUOTE]I am sure that I am not telling Mr E or for that matter a lot of board members anything that they do not already know but I wanted to throw my two cents in on this topic in case there are people who are unaware.

First of all I am not arguing with either Mr E or JjBee62. Just adding to the conversation. Many years ago when I was a younger man I had a Chicano chica that could make herself squirt by mounting me facing my feet while I lay flat and she would grind back and forth, I did not really get much out of it except that at the point she ejaculated it was my signal to flip her over and pin her knees against her ears and take advantage of that soaking wet pussy. Later I had an caucasian girlfriend who taught me exactly how to locate that little raised bumpy area on the front wall of the vagina called the G spot and tap it just the right way and send her to heaven as she squirted and again taking advantage of that soaking wet pussy to pound her head into the headboard and listen to her scream, in both cases afterward they were hot blooded and passionately into the sex they I have tried this with multiple women since to varying degrees of success. One in particular that I met in Mexico City that was like 32 years old and who to my surprise was not aware of the G spot but had a very intense experience when I engaged with hers, and after I set off her orgasm with her G Spot, she fucked me like a wild animal. For my experience this little exploration can sometimes pays dividends turning a 'just lay there' fuck into a fire breathing sex beast.

This first article is written for women but gives an explanation about the squirting of younger women

[URL]https://www.marieclaire.com/sex-love/a27920/skenes-gland-squirting-explainer/[/URL]

https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/love-sex/sex/a10257892/how-to-make-a-girl-squirt/

https://www.healthline.com/health/healthy-sex/squirting#squirting-defined

My physician says eating pussy can cause throat cancer, HPV.

He is an HIV expert, he's a smart dude so I listen to him.

He says eating puta pussy is even higher risk, Eddie Van Halen just died of throat cancer, did he eat too much vagina?

Too many slutty vaginas? Michael Douglas had throat cancer I believe I read at the time they said it was from HPV.

Proceed accordingly.

This a classic case of someone trying to use false rhetoric to hoodwink you into thinking he is right and knowledgeable about squirting. Theres thousands, maybe millions of young squirters in porn or chatutbating, reality and etc to dispute this assinine assertion. Dumpster bullshit jjbee. Ccut it out LOL

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2502288]But all the chicks that I have been with that squirted (at least 10 - 3 of them being hookers) were young ladies, not old ass women whose internals had shifted.[/QUOTE].

There are some casas in Centro. You can rotate between them and Plaza Botero without taking a taxi or uber across traffic jams.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2502280]I don't ever think I can get comfortable with the undesirables and extent you have to go to find a solid person in centro. The price is luring though. I love grocery shopping and now I am getting into shopping so it as potential outside of mongering. I love laureles, theres casas stacked everywhere. Lleras park is losing ground cause 200 mil is above the price I want to pay for the quality girls. And average girls are following the trend..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2502161]Downloading and following up with the app has never been a requirement as far as I know. I know it hasn't been for the past month.

You must fill out the entry form at [URL]https://apps.migracioncolombia.gov.co/pre-registro/public/preregistro.jsf[/URL], or be delayed at MDE while you provide all the information.

United States citizens and premanent residents have never been prohibited from leaving Colombia nor returning to the United States.[/QUOTE]Thank you for this information!

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2502275]Agree. If it makes the mongerer feel better to be selfish about it then think of it as being motivational for the one you are about to fuck. If someone thinks there is no difference between fucking a motivated, happy girl compared to the opposite, then I feel for your not being able to tell the difference. Or maybe being satisfied with the least is the smarter way to go, who is to say? If any wet hole will do then do any wet hole. But here is one concrete example of a "payoff" from being "nice" or however you want to put it. One of my regular putas in a brothel had fantastic skills. I got started out at the going flat rate and as anyone knows who had been there, the "extras" after that are negotiable. Not the first time, or the second, or the fourth, but soon I was fucking her for the standard flat rate and getting everything and anything I wanted at no extra charge. No bullshit, no upcharges, whatever my warped mind could dream up. We had sessions that I could have been charged triple of what I paid with the exception being, we actually liked each other. We never got together outside the brothel, but I knew she lived with her kid and mom. One time I walked her to the bus stop when I kept her late. Our relationship was strictly professional and she was definitely NOT one of my "regular" non-professional girls I talk about a lot here. She was full time in the brothel. Being nice and showing some human interest in her beyond a wet hole probably saved me 50% cash overall. Sometimes I bought lunch for all the girls (it was a small place) but everything was returned to me and then some. I normally don't go back to the same girl at a brothel over and over but she was that good, a master of the Venezuelan Soft Swirl blow job with endurance longer than her shift. And much more. I think if a guy is happy not engaging a girl on any level other than purely physical, then he can happily continue. However, if someone can appreciate what a little psychological and emotional motivation can do for a "wet hole," then play the game.[/QUOTE]What in the Sam Hill is that?

I have been around a little bit but never heard of that. Never to old to go to school.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2502327]My physician says eating pussy can cause throat cancer, HPV.

He is an HIV expert, he's a smart dude so I listen to him.

He says eating puta pussy is even higher risk, Eddie Van Halen just died of throat cancer, did he eat too much vagina?

Too many slutty vaginas? Michael Douglas had throat cancer I believe I read at the time they said it was from HPV.

Proceed accordingly.[/QUOTE]Your taking the fun out of life, nothing like an El Centro pussy to knaw on, and some are very flavorful to boot!

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2502303]I've been with girls who squirted too. The shift in the bladder, etc just makes it more likely. If you're doing women over 40, it's a more common occurrence, at least that's my experience and what the doctor explained. There's 2 likely possible causes and a less likely one.

1. The woman already has an issue with bladder control, causing the squirting. If that's the case, it's probably going to be a regular thing.

2. The woman orgasmed so hard, she completely lost control. If that's the case, it's probably going to be a rare occurrence.

3. The unlikely answer, the girl intentionally lets loose because she's watched too much porn and thinks it's normal. Had a webcam model who kept doing that until I told her to stop.[/QUOTE]I'll take responsibility for promulgating this topic in response to your first post, yet I'm amazed there has been so much interest, and commentary on this topic, which at this point seems to be enough.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2502280]I don't ever think I can get comfortable with the undesirables and extent you have to go to find a solid person in centro. The price is luring though. I love grocery shopping and now I am getting into shopping so it as potential outside of mongering. I love laureles, theres casas stacked everywhere. Lleras park is losing ground cause 200 mil is above the price I want to pay for the quality girls. And average girls are following the trend..[/QUOTE]Speaking of. Do you have a list of casas that you've hit in Laureles? I'm going to be there for two weeks starting tmrw. Are they named places, do you find them of mileroticos? Just go to and knock? Tried to rtff but casa returns more than a bunch of hits. Much appreciated.

I awoke Friday morning around 6 AM and discovered a leaking valve in a bathroom. I had to turn off the water, went to a hardware store that opens at 7 AM and returned and replaced the valve and had the water back on by 7:30 AM. Not the greatest way to start the day playing plumber, so I decided I would rather be laying pipe instead, so I fired up my Colombian burner phone and dialed up one of my El Centro Chicas and asked if she you could meet me at 9 AM. Betty's her name and she said yes, and was right on time at the Zona Rosa Hotel. A bigger gal, not fat, and nice for a change from all the dinky thinner women I normally do, nice big titties and something to ride, kind of like a wave. After our session, I decided to give her 70K versus the 40K I normally give her. I'm not a cheap charlie with my regulars because I get the full monty. Regardless, Betty started jumping up and down profusely thanking me for giving her extra money to buy food for her and her kids. She's just a Mom trying to make ends meet, not a full time streetwalker in El Centro and I have a few others like that I didn't run into his trip. After laying pipe or I should say getting my pipes cleaned, I decided to get a workout and went to Bellen and swam laps for forty five minutes and then went back to the apartment. Later in the afternoon around 3 PM I went back to El Centro to see what was available and spent an hour making laps around the area looking for something out of the ordinary but low and behold all of a sudden one of my long time performers appeared at her "station" by the telephones adjacent to the Church. I gave her the signal and she met in the lobby of the Zona Rosa and it was like make up sex after not being together for over eight months. So after that I went over to my buddies apartment in La Linde and we had cocktails / wine and ordered thru Rappi for dinner. It rained most of the evening, so no activity in Lleras with the curfew set for 11 PM. An okay day for a Friday.

Or Knowledge your just providing knowledge so I can have a better time. Has anyone stayed at primeir plaza over night. Is it nice enough for that. I have seen some big rats around Centro and I am not talking about jjbee and Surfer LOL.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2502370]There are some casas in Centro. You can rotate between them and Plaza Botero without taking a taxi or uber across traffic jams.[/QUOTE].

This is a little shocking but as a matter of fact there are people who not only stay overnight but stay long term. The hotel has separate designated areas for short time and long term residents. The places across the street are all short time and slightly cheaper.

I posted about rats back during the height of the quarantine when no one was supposed to be out on the street. At the time I wrote something along the lines of "this Centro rat ran into a real Centro rat". Slightly smaller than a squirrel, it was lounging on the sidewalk in front of a deserted Parque Berrio. I also saw an Andean condor on top of a building on la Oriental. I wish I had taken more pictures of Centro during the quarantine because we aren't likely to ever see it like that again. At least I hope not.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2502406]Or Knowledge your just providing knowledge so I can have a better time. Has anyone stayed at primeir plaza over night. Is it nice enough for that. I have seen some big rats around Centro and I am not talking about jjbee and Surfer LOL..[/QUOTE]

Medellin is a hot climate? What would you wear in the Caribbean or Thailand, a speedo and flip flops?

[QUOTE=PunkedLife;2502301]I guess ima continue looking like a gringo with my cargo shorts because it is way too hot to be wearing some jeans for me in these hot ass climates.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blakman;2502406]Or Knowledge your just providing knowledge so I can have a better time. Has anyone stayed at primeir plaza over night. Is it nice enough for that. I have seen some big rats around Centro and I am not talking about jjbee and Surfer LOL..[/QUOTE]Jbee2 is not a street rat, he doesn't qualify as he never earned his whiskers!.

As far as Premier Plaza I used to many years ago stay there. It's probably the best place to stay in El Centro for a a day or too at a time in that it is right at ground zero the intersection of Carrea / Calle 52. You can literally stay right in front of the Hotel and when you see something you like take them to your room. There used to be no joiner fee but I don't know what the current policy is. They check Cedulas, have hot water and if you get a room on the top floor in the middle it should be fairly quiet. Don't take a room on the backside as there is a bar back there, and the front rooms on the top floor overlooking the walkwway can be hot with noise from down below. The Hotel also serves as a mini Police Station at times as the staff gives the Cops free coffee and they use their WiFi there.

I think what should be obvious to you is that Knowledge and I are both bonfide "street rats" and I think Knowledge would agree that we see potential in you becoming a member of this special group.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2502280] I love grocery shopping and now I am getting into shopping so it as potential outside of mongering
.[/QUOTE]Have you been to Minorista yet? It's walking distance from El Centro. Besides grocery, you can get cheap food too, 4 mil for Lechona but they only come out in the morning.

I've been working this for nearly 2 months. It finally happened.

Coin Slot came over around midnight on Thursday night. A little miscommunication as she said 1030 p and I thought I said UNTIL 1230 a but she understood come at 1230. Around 1130 p we got on the same page and she hurried over. Usually, she is an afternoon delight type, because she lives at home. She might have a boyfriend, idk, she is tough to communicate with via her cell.

Anyway, Pinky was hesitant because she saw multiple occasions when Coin Slot was messaging and asking to see me, alone. Well, they hit it off right away. It was amazing. This was Coin Slot's first experience with another girl. I had explained to her she doesn't need to do anything that makes her feel uncomfortable, but come over and let's see what happens. We were in the jacuzzi for awhile, loosening up, and they were chit chatting the whole time, sharing stories and laughing. Eventually, a little make out, and when I came back from grabbing a beer from the fridge, they said no no no, let's go to the bedroom. Coin Slot got right into the action (as seen below). I was going back and forth banging them, they were going back and forth switching roles. It was heaven. Aside from the fact that I couldn't cum. I think she left around 4 a. I gave her 200 k, which is more than I usually give her, and she didn't seem to look at it or count it.

Well, that wasn't enough. So, around 530-6 a, we invited over one of Pinky's friends who just moved to town. She's a lesbian, I believe, which I guess makes her bi. Not too sure about her sexual history or identity, but we had a round two with her. She is boyish in her style and vibe, but tender and pretty. Beautiful curly hair and stunning light eyes with a spinner body. I don't really remember the second round, but Pinky confirmed it happened. I'll definitely be rotating her back in, in the future. Something about her. I think I owe her 200 k, but her and two other girls are still here from last night, so maybe she'll mention it, maybe she'll let it go.

Last night, during ley seca, I ordered beer twice from Rappi. I ordered from restaurants, as the liquor stores and markets were blocking alcohol sales. I also noticed the order would get cancelled if you didn't order a food item. Not sure if you could order a 12 pack with a side of BBQ sauce, but maybe Blakman will have a chance to inform us, before he heads to Kenya.

Nounce you are talking to man that has not entertain a restaurant since I been here. I pay for extra luggage to bring my own food LOL. Just remember vote me as cheapy charlie of the year LOL.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2502443]Have you been to Minorista yet? It's walking distance from El Centro. Besides grocery, you can get cheap food too, 4 mil for Lechona but they only come out in the morning.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2502387]What in the Sam Hill is that?

I have been around a little bit but never heard of that. Never to old to go to school.[/QUOTE]In my small sample size of 8-10 blowjobs from Venezuelan chicas, they seemed to be schooled similarly, although this puta was the best at it. She was so good at blowjobs I brought in my Numero Dos and Tres regular chicas to the Brothel for her to give instruction, live, on me of course. The house charged me 20 mil extra each time for bringing in my own girls, but Soft Swirl didn't charge me any extra for the lessons.

I can't explain it. Her head moves very little. All the work is done with her tongue and intermittent suction. Her tongue was on all four sides of my cock and her lips were super soft. Sometimes, as I was laying on my back, I could not imagine how she was creating the sensations I was feeling and I would pick up my head wanting to see what she was doing, but like I said, her head was still with very little motion. Nothing to see here. I told one of my friends to imagine your dick was on the delicate cycle in a dryer full of silk scarves, with suction, not that I have direct experience with that but it's the closest I could come, jajajajajaaa.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2502280]I don't ever think I can get comfortable with the undesirables and extent you have to go to find a solid person in centro. The price is luring though. I love grocery shopping and now I am getting into shopping so it as potential outside of mongering. I love laureles, theres casas stacked everywhere. Lleras park is losing ground cause 200 mil is above the price I want to pay for the quality girls. And average girls are following the trend..[/QUOTE]Here are some shopping options:

Mayorista. You can get there cheaply by taking the metro south to Ayura station. When you exit the station turn left. Follow that street. Mayorista is the southern wholesale area. Liquor, food, popcorn. All at wholesale prices. There's also a good court area with good food.

If you continue walking past Mayorista you'll come to a casino on your left. That's the beginning of the Mayorista red light district. You probably won't find anything there to interest you. Continue for 2 blocks. You'll see a park across the street on the right. Turn left. For the next 4 or 5 blocks it's nothing but clothing stores.

Plaza de mercado la America. You can look it up to get directions. It's a big, indoor, fruit and vegetable market. Probably not as cheap as El Centro, but a more refined environment, for your sensitive tastes.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2502460]Nounce you are talking to man that has not entertain a restaurant since I been here. I pay for extra luggage to bring my own food LOL. Just remember vote me as cheapy charlie of the year LOL.

.[/QUOTE]Haha, It's street food, not a restaurant. You also can't cook that yourself. It's only about $1. 3 so don't tell me that is out of your price range. The saving you get from shopping at Minorista can easily make up for that.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2502446]I've been working this for nearly 2 months. It finally happened.

Coin Slot came over around midnight on Thursday night. A little miscommunication as she said 1030 p and I thought I said UNTIL 1230 a but she understood come at 1230. Around 1130 p we got on the same page and she hurried over. Usually, she is an afternoon delight type, because she lives at home. She might have a boyfriend, idk, she is tough to communicate with via her cell.

Well, that wasn't enough. So, around 530-6 a, we invited over one of Pinky's friends who just moved to town. She's a lesbian, I believe, which I guess makes her bi. Not too sure about her sexual history or identity, but we had a round two with her. She is boyish in her style and vibe, but tender and pretty. Beautiful curly hair and stunning light eyes with a spinner body. I don't really remember the second round, but Pinky confirmed it happened. I'll definitely be rotating her back in, in the future. Something about her. I think I owe her 200 k, but her and two other girls are still here from last night, so maybe she'll mention it, maybe she'll let it go.[/QUOTE]Love me some nice slot pussy. Jajaja at, "I don't really remember the second round, but Pinky confirmed it."

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2502275]Agree. If it makes the mongerer feel better to be selfish about it then think of it as being motivational for the one you are about to fuck. If someone thinks there is no difference between fucking a motivated, happy girl compared to the opposite, then I feel for your not being able to tell the difference. Or maybe being satisfied with the least is the smarter way to go, who is to say? If any wet hole will do then do any wet hole. But here is one concrete example of a "payoff" from being "nice" or however you want to put it. One of my regular putas in a brothel had fantastic skills. I got started out at the going flat rate and as anyone knows who had been there, the "extras" after that are negotiable. Not the first time, or the second, or the fourth, but soon I was fucking her for the standard flat rate and getting everything and anything I wanted at no extra charge. No bullshit, no upcharges, whatever my warped mind could dream up. We had sessions that I could have been charged triple of what I paid with the exception being, we actually liked each other. We never got together outside the brothel, but I knew she lived with her kid and mom. One time I walked her to the bus stop when I kept her late. Our relationship was strictly professional and she was definitely NOT one of my "regular" non-professional girls I talk about a lot here. She was full time in the brothel. Being nice and showing some human interest in her beyond a wet hole probably saved me 50% cash overall. Sometimes I bought lunch for all the girls (it was a small place) but everything was returned to me and then some..[/QUOTE]I have found most putas respect the guy that pays less, this is a generalization of course, the greediest ones (the sharks won't) but in my experience the less I offer, the less I pay, the more I get literally and figuratively, but go ahead and pay more than you have to and believe this if you want, but I seriously doubt grown men here with healthy self esteem will agree.

You talk about a payoff, LOL my idea of a payoff is getting it for free when I'm looking to pay for it, now that's what I call a payoff.

I'm looking to get it cheaper than everyone else, and I wind up getting it free.

At least in my case paying the minimum can lead to freebies, conversely I know guys that pay the max and totally get shammed and get nothing.

As goffering likes to write, paying more than one has to doesn't endear oneself to 3rd world putas, it only gets oneself labeled as an easy mark.

This is not rocket science bro.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2502443]Have you been to Minorista yet? It's walking distance from El Centro. Besides grocery, you can get cheap food too, 4 mil for Lechona but they only come out in the morning.[/QUOTE] Definitely a good advice!

In Bogota, for lechona I recommend to go explore the area around the Bodegas in San Andresito district. There is a couple of streets all full of lechonerias de Tolima. If I am not wrong, it should be around Cr. 20-21 and CL 8-8a. A true delicacy! (at least until you do not try "porchetta" in Central Italy).
You walk, and sellers give you a taste piece on a fork to try, trying to lure you to seat and eat. It is more expensive than 4 mil (8-12), but it's a large plate with rice.

In the last years, I have been used to plan my flights with a stop over in Bogota taking at least 7-8 hours, say from Medellin to Cartagena. I land, I take a taxi to San Andresito, eat lechona, then walk slowly to centro passing by Plaza de Los Martires, Tercero Millenio, see Bronx archeology, Museo del Oro, Santa Fe, taxi back to airport for next flight. What a nostalgy!

[QUOTE=PunkedLife;2502301]I guess ima continue looking like a gringo with my cargo shorts because it is way too hot to be wearing some jeans for me in these hot ass climates.[/QUOTE]Besides this depressing ass rain we've been getting lately I can say it gets a bit chilly at night. Just landed in Medellin yesterday and had to pull out a long sleeve.

[QUOTE=PunkedLife;2502301]I guess ima continue looking like a gringo with my cargo shorts because it is way too hot to be wearing some jeans for me in these hot ass climates.[/QUOTE]Hot ass climate? I take it you haven't been to Medellin before, or you live north of the Arctic circle.

High temperature right now is hitting about 80°. When it gets over 85°, which doesn't happen often, the natives act like they're melting. Humidity peaks at about 50% mid-morning, but drops to about 35% in the afternoon. Low temperature at night is usually about 60°. There's usually a nice breeze, especially around 4 pm which cools things down nicely.

With the low humidity and moderate high temperature, jeans are almost always comfortable. In 4 days I've walked 31 miles, as a 58 year old, overweight man with a heart condition, mostly during the hottest part of the day, much of the time climbing hills and stairs, without serious amounts of sweat.

Tomorrow I'm hoping to start walking as a fit 30 year old with a larger penis.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2502484]I have found most putas respect the guy that pays less, this is a generalization of course, the greediest ones (the sharks won't) but in my experience the less I offer, the less I pay, the more I get literally and figuratively, but go ahead and pay more than you have to and believe this if you want, but I seriously doubt grown men here with healthy self esteem will agree.

You talk about a payoff, LOL my idea of a payoff is getting it for free when I'm looking to pay for it, now that's what I call a payoff.

I'm looking to get it cheaper than everyone else, and I wind up getting it free.

At least in my case paying the minimum can lead to freebies, conversely I know guys that pay the max and totally get shammed and get nothing.

As goffering likes to write, paying more than one has to doesn't endear oneself to 3rd world putas, it only gets oneself labeled as an easy mark.

This is not rocket science bro.[/QUOTE]Absolutely not true. Lmao😂128514;128514;.

A girl is selling her body to make $$ because she has to. This is not her first choice in life nor is it something she is proud of. It's strictly for money.

These girls want $$$ nothing more. And on the other end wtf do we care to care about her emotions or feelings. If that's the case then we wouldn't fuck any of these girls cause they all have sob stories.

This is just another of many examples of just hating on others. That's all it is.

Look at Blakmans post he keeps it real. He pays minimum and there's nothing wrong with that but it doesn't make him any less susceptible to bad things happening.

The fact is more $$ you spend in this business girls will want your repeat business and do whatever it takes to keep you happy.

That's common sense.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2502423]Medellin is a hot climate? What would you wear in the Caribbean or Thailand, a speedo and flip flops?[/QUOTE]And a shitload of sunscreen.

The one girl I paid 150 deserved 30 mil And the girl I just gave gifts, deserved 200 mil. Also Its like the more you show you like them the more they try to take advantage.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2502484]I have found most putas respect the guy that pays less, this is a generalization of course, the greediest ones (the sharks won't) but in my experience the less I offer, the less I pay, the more I get literally and figuratively, but go ahead and pay more than you have to and believe this if you want, but I seriously doubt grown men here with healthy self esteem will agree.

You talk about a payoff, LOL my idea of a payoff is getting it for free when I'm looking to pay for it, now that's what I call a payoff.

I'm looking to get it cheaper than everyone else, and I wind up getting it free.

At least in my case paying the minimum can lead to freebies, conversely I know guys that pay the max and totally get shammed and get nothing.

As goffering likes to write, paying more than one has to doesn't endear oneself to 3rd world putas, it only gets oneself labeled as an easy mark.

This is not rocket science bro.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2502430]Jbee2 is not a street rat, he doesn't qualify as he never earned his whiskers!.

As far as Premier Plaza I used to many years ago stay there. It's probably the best place to stay in El Centro for a a day or too at a time in that it is right at ground zero the intersection of Carrea / Calle 52. You can literally stay right in front of the Hotel and when you see something you like take them to your room. There used to be no joiner fee but I don't know what the current policy is. They check Cedulas, have hot water and if you get a room on the top floor in the middle it should be fairly quiet. Don't take a room on the backside as there is a bar back there, and the front rooms on the top floor overlooking the walkwway can be hot with noise from down below. The Hotel also serves as a mini Police Station at times as the staff gives the Cops free coffee and they use their WiFi there.

I think what should be obvious to you is that Knowledge and I are both bonfide "street rats" and I think Knowledge would agree that we see potential in you becoming a member of this special group.[/QUOTE]I am definitely not a Centro street rat. I love walking the streets, but I don't have any urge to pull from there. Although I do have a thing for the girls in the diviest of the dive bars. I'll have to make at least 1 visit there before I go.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2502280]I don't ever think I can get comfortable with the undesirables and extent you have to go to find a solid person in centro. The price is luring though. I love grocery shopping and now I am getting into shopping so it as potential outside of mongering..[/QUOTE]Several great choices for shopping in Centro, there are 2 walking streets with tons of stores that go on for blocks and are clean and seem safe, one, Carr 52/ Ave Carabobo starts at the Vera Cruz Church (there has been a church at that spot since 1682, the current one built in 1791) and goes south / south-west (if you came out the door of the church and walked straight to the street, go right) The other starts at the south end of Parque Bolivar, the end opposite the big brick church, the Catedral Basilica Metropolitana de Medellin, the landmark early-20th-century cathedral noted for its brick construction & romanesque architecture. That walking street, carrera 49, Paseo de Junin has lots of good eating choices also, for breakfast I like Versalles Restaurante & Pasteleria (if it looks full find the stairs to the upstairs) Cra. 49 Junin #53-39, and for a great traditional Colombian dinner Hacienda has great food, Cra. 49 Junand #52-98. Hacienda is not very expensive but not for cheap Charlies. There is also a indoor mall, Commercial Pasaje Junin Maracaibo with entrances on Carr 50 next to Hotel Nutibara and one on Paseo Junin between call 52 and 53, Cra. 49 Junand #52-141, on the north side of street. (NW actually).

Blakman is in that gray zone between denial and resignation but I know a Centro rat when I smell one. I takes one to know one.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2502430]Jbee2 is not a street rat, he doesn't qualify as he never earned his whiskers!.

As far as Premier Plaza I used to many years ago stay there. It's probably the best place to stay in El Centro for a a day or too at a time in that it is right at ground zero the intersection of Carrea / Calle 52. You can literally stay right in front of the Hotel and when you see something you like take them to your room. There used to be no joiner fee but I don't know what the current policy is. They check Cedulas, have hot water and if you get a room on the top floor in the middle it should be fairly quiet. Don't take a room on the backside as there is a bar back there, and the front rooms on the top floor overlooking the walkwway can be hot with noise from down below. The Hotel also serves as a mini Police Station at times as the staff gives the Cops free coffee and they use their WiFi there.

I think what should be obvious to you is that Knowledge and I are both bonfide "street rats" and I think Knowledge would agree that we see potential in you becoming a member of this special group.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Balboa;2502538]That's actually funny to me, Lol. The girls respect more the guys that pay less. Ok. So, don't be nice. It doesn't pay off. Pay as little as possible, which will in turn, gain their respect. Ok.[/QUOTE]I can not tell a mf what to do or what not to do. I can not tell a mf how to act or how not to act. I can not tell a mf what to pay or what not to pay. I can not tell a mf what to wear or what not to wear.

It may take some guys buttering a chick up. It may take some guys putting on their Sunday best. It may take some guys paying way more than other guys. It may take some guys bringing hookers gifts besides money.

All I can say is that I am just myself and I get great results just being me. No special nothing. Just plain old me. If you are trying to make yourself into something that you are not then it probably will not work anyway. Like when I tried to make myself into a married guy. That lasted all of 2 years. No fights or arguments or anything like that, but I could no longer fool myself. I am a player. That is just my personality.

Enjoy brother happy safe mongering.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2502446]I've been working this for nearly 2 months. It finally happened.

Coin Slot came over around midnight on Thursday night. A little miscommunication as she said 1030 p and I thought I said UNTIL 1230 a but she understood come at 1230. Around 1130 p we got on the same page and she hurried over. Usually, she is an afternoon delight type, because she lives at home. She might have a boyfriend, idk, she is tough to communicate with via her cell.

Anyway, Pinky was hesitant because she saw multiple occasions when Coin Slot was messaging and asking to see me, alone. Well, they hit it off right away. It was amazing. This was Coin Slot's first experience with another girl. I had explained to her she doesn't need to do anything that makes her feel uncomfortable, but come over and let's see what happens. We were in the jacuzzi for awhile, loosening up, and they were chit chatting the whole time, sharing stories and laughing. Eventually, a little make out, and when I came back from grabbing a beer from the fridge, they said no no no, let's go to the bedroom. Coin Slot got right into the action (as seen below). I was going back and forth banging them, they were going back and forth switching roles. It was heaven. Aside from the fact that I couldn't cum. I think she left around 4 a. I gave her 200 k, which is more than I usually give her, and she didn't seem to look at it or count it.

Well, that wasn't enough. So, around 530-6 a, we invited over one of Pinky's friends who just moved to town. She's a lesbian, I believe, which I guess makes her bi. Not too sure about her sexual history or identity, but we had a round two with her. She is boyish in her style and vibe, but tender and pretty. Beautiful curly hair and stunning light eyes with a spinner body. I don't really remember the second round, but Pinky confirmed it happened. I'll definitely be rotating her back in, in the future. Something about her. I think I owe her 200 k, but her and two other girls are still here from last night, so maybe she'll mention it, maybe she'll let it go.

Last night, during ley seca, I ordered beer twice from Rappi. I ordered from restaurants, as the liquor stores and markets were blocking alcohol sales. I also noticed the order would get cancelled if you didn't order a food item. Not sure if you could order a 12 pack with a side of BBQ sauce, but maybe Blakman will have a chance to inform us, before he heads to Kenya.[/QUOTE]

Took a cab to lleras. Nice crowd. Few girls in the park area. Decided to go in lleras park club. I love the music there. Bought a drink 20 mil. They have girls working in there to get you to buy drinks and to go home with. Approach a few girls get there numbers. Dance a little. Girls are nice but not stunners. Finish my beer check out the park area. Notice quite a few people going in gustos. Decide to head up there. I start to understand the dynamics of Gusto. The girls really look hot. Dolled up and everything. The fellas are business men, ballers, are fake ballers looking to have a good time. I am debating do I scrap my cheapy charlie mentality cause last week proved to me chicks going to hold at there price. Maybe things change at closing. I decide to stay being me and just enjoy window shopping. I take a look and guess who I see. My 8th. Oh shit. Looking blazing. She notices me as well and we smile. I realize the situation and she does as well. She's in the club to make money. She knows I am not spending. So my decision is to give her space and she carries on doing what girls do in gusto. She disappears with a group of vip guys. The music is banging. Majority blacks and other professionals who are very comfortable with having good time forking out big cash. A chick gets aggressive with me. I say how much. She says 160 dolares. I guess mil pesos language doesn't exist here LOL. I dance with a chick. I am in love. But then she ask me to by a drink. I say later. She says well dance with me later then. I space myself from her. I see my 8th. A guy is buying her shots. She looks at me smiling and giving me the middle finger while the guy doesn't see. I am kinda shock of the attention cause the guy is focus on taking her back to the hotel. She does it a couple times to me again. I blow her a kiss and smile. Understanding the dynamics. She did tell me she gets 300 mil for like 10 minutes when we spent time in quarantine. Wondering why I am fussing over 300 mil a week I am paying for her time. I am starting to think maybe she really liked me. I mean she looked hot. Easily top 10 in there. The most I have done for her was had burger king delivered once. Each time she ask for money in the states I deleted her. Since I have been I rejected her. And when she came she let me videotape everything. So two things happened here. She did leave with the guy who was spending money on her. But at the same time she showed respect for someone who has not spent lots of money on her. This seg way into the argument of paying less or more. Who the girl respects. As the night was ending I surprised myself and went after a 19 year old. Very pretty chick obviously no kids. I thought she was from Cali. She look like a newbie in porn. We agreed on 130 mil 1 leche. I scratch my other agreement. We got in the can and I took my viagra pill right front of her. I did not look at the meter so midway I noticed it wasnt on. I told the taxi driver 6 mil. He tried to say 20 mil. I told him fuck that he then dropped it to 10 mil. Its really 6 mil but I agreed. Showed security cedula. We get to my place and shorty ask for money first. I say no. She says show me. I show her. She then says pay me. I say no. She seems really confuse. We get into it and she's really affectionate. Moan while I am kissing on her neck. Sucking on her titties. I motion for head job. She pause then goes at it for little. Tries to put on the condom. I say no mas. She continues to suck and I force her head down. She likes that. 2 girls in a row. She sucks more with no needed assistance except for forcing her head down. You see the saliva. Nice she's into it. We put on the condom but she's shielding me from really fucking her. She gets a call and she's frustrated. I hear het tell the person 20 minutes. I tell her listen if its good I will bring you back. She says ok but clearly she's worried about the person rushing her. We go doggy. She lets me hit it good for few minutes then act like I hurt the pussy LOL. I remind her cut the bullshit. We go to missionary and I try to cum but can't. Get her to jerk it and she jerks me off. Normally I would be pissed. But I really couldn't blame her. I honestly think she wanted to get freaky but she came with others and had time restraints. I got my moneys worth from looking at that fresh body. And that's my night.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2502614]Took a cab to lleras. Nice crowd. Few girls in the park area. Decided to go in lleras park club. I love the music there. Bought a drink 20 mil. They have girls working in there to get you to buy drinks and to go home with. Approach a few girls get there numbers. Dance a little. Girls are nice but not stunners. Finish my beer check out the park area. Notice quite a few people going in gustos. Decide to head up there. I start to understand the dynamics of Gusto. The girls really look hot. Dolled up and everything. The fellas are business men, ballers, are fake ballers looking to have a good time. I am debating do I scrap my cheapy charlie mentality cause last week proved to me chicks going to hold at there price. Maybe things change at closing. I decide to stay being me and just enjoy window shopping. I take a look and guess who I see. My 8th. Oh shit. Looking blazing. She notices me as well and we smile. I realize the situation and she does as well. She's in the club to make money. She knows I am not spending. So my decision is to give her space and she carries on doing what girls do in gusto. She disappears with a group of vip guys. The music is banging. Majority blacks and other professionals who are very comfortable with having good time forking out big cash. A chick gets aggressive with me. I say how much. She says 160 dolares. I guess mil pesos language doesn't exist here LOL. I dance with a chick. I am in love. But then she ask me to by a drink. I say later. She says well dance with me later then. I space myself from her. I see my 8th. A guy is buying her shots. She looks at me smiling and giving me the middle finger while the guy doesn't see. I am kinda shock of the attention cause the guy is focus on taking her back to the hotel. She does it a couple times to me again. I blow her a kiss and smile. Understanding the dynamics. She did tell me she gets 300 mil for like 10 minutes when we spent time in quarantine. Wondering why I am fussing over 300 mil a week I am paying for her time. I am starting to think maybe she really liked me. I mean she looked hot. Easily top 10 in there. The most I have done for her was had burger king delivered once. Each time she ask for money in the states I deleted her. Since I have been I rejected her. And when she came she let me videotape everything. So two things happened here..[/QUOTE]And you didn't even say Hello. If you had been carrying around a bag of popcorn I would have recognized you.

First thing, I've been out of commission since Friday afternoon. Had a health issue pop up that kept me laid up all Friday night. My Saturday plans for Guatape got moved to Tuesday because one girl has a sick mother. Instead I took a BM to Comuna 13 for the Jjbee graffiti tour. It's like the official graffiti tour except it's free and over much quicker. Afterwards took the metrocable up from San Javier to check out the view, then had lunch. There's a restaurant a block away from the metro station with bandeja Paisa for 10k.

Had some time to kill and a Facebook girl hit me up. However, by the time she responded I was already headed to Parque Lleras.

Another BM wanted to check out Gusto, so we agreed to meet at the Beer Store. I showed up an hour early to grab dinner at The Greek Connection. Expensive, but it's one of my favorites. Plus they had a sweet tiny girl belly dancing.

Headed to the Beer Store and waited for the BM while drinking a Lleras priced beer. Shortly after 9 we headed to Gusto. Place was fairly crowded, but not packed. Heavy concentration of gringos and at least one Indian. Saw one guy digging through all the couch cushions looking for change. I didn't realize Blakman was going to be there.

The guy I was with said it felt just like an American club. Probably close to a 50-50 mix of men to women. The music is loud and the drinks are expensive, but it's a place worth experiencing.

I saw several women who I would have taken for Facebook rates, but only 1 tempted me to pay Gusto rates. Overall I'd say the average girl was a 7, with almost no 9's or above and several 5's. Average age looked about 25.

BM got quoted $200 by one and 400 k by another. Just my quick glance at the park and I think the average girl in the park is better looking and cheaper than the average Gusto girl.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2502443]Have you been to Minorista yet? It's walking distance from El Centro. Besides grocery, you can get cheap food too, 4 mil for Lechona but they only come out in the morning.[/QUOTE]Mayorista is quite a ways from Centro. It is even a long ride on the Metro right before Envigado.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2502471]Here are some shopping options:

Mayorista. You can get there cheaply by taking the metro south to Ayura station. When you exit the station turn left. Follow that street. Mayorista is the southern wholesale area. Liquor, food, popcorn. All at wholesale prices. There's also a good court area with good food.

If you continue walking past Mayorista you'll come to a casino on your left. That's the beginning of the Mayorista red light district. You probably won't find anything there to interest you. Continue for 2 blocks. You'll see a park across the street on the right. Turn left. For the next 4 or 5 blocks it's nothing but clothing stores.

Plaza de mercado la America. You can look it up to get directions. It's a big, indoor, fruit and vegetable market. Probably not as cheap as El Centro, but a more refined environment, for your sensitive tastes.[/QUOTE]Yes you know the area well. Pinpoint directions.

If any of you guys do go to the clothing area make sure you don't pay the sticker price. A great place to get a good deal.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2502674]Mayorista is quite a ways from Centro. It is even a long ride on the Metro right before Envigado.[/QUOTE]True for Mayorista. But Minorista is walkable from Centro, not that I would recommend it.

I enjoyed this Blakman. It is really fun watching your gradual but steady conversion. You earned a whisker for the way you managed Gustos.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2502614]Took a cab to lleras. Nice crowd. Few girls in the park area. Decided to go in lleras park club. I love the music there. Bought a drink 20 mil. They have girls working in there to get you to buy drinks and to go home with. Approach a few girls get there numbers. Dance a little. Girls are nice but not stunners. Finish my beer check out the park area. Notice quite a few people going in gustos. Decide to head up there. I start to understand the dynamics of Gusto. The girls really look hot. Dolled up and everything. The fellas are business men, ballers, are fake ballers looking to have a good time. I am debating do I scrap my cheapy charlie mentality cause last week proved to me chicks going to hold at there price. Maybe things change at closing. I decide to stay being me and just enjoy window shopping. I take a look and guess who I see. My 8th. Oh shit. Looking blazing. She notices me as well and we smile. I realize the situation and she does as well. She's in the club to make money. She knows I am not spending. So my decision is to give her space and she carries on doing what girls do in gusto. She disappears with a group of vip guys. The music is banging. Majority blacks and other professionals who are very comfortable with having good time forking out big cash. A chick gets aggressive with me. I say how much. She says 160 dolares. I guess mil pesos language doesn't exist here LOL. I dance with a chick. I am in love. But then she ask me to by a drink. I say later. She says well dance with me later then. I space myself from her. I see my 8th. A guy is buying her shots. She looks at me smiling and giving me the middle finger while the guy doesn't see. I am kinda shock of the attention cause the guy is focus on taking her back to the hotel..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2502679]Yes you know the area well. Pinpoint directions.

If any of you guys do go to the clothing area make sure you don't pay the sticker price. A great place to get a good deal.[/QUOTE]Yes. This is the best place to buy denim. Great pricing with huge selections. Bargaining is encouraged and required to avoid overpaying.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2502614]...I see my 8th. A guy is buying her shots. She looks at me smiling and giving me the middle finger while the guy doesn't see. I am kinda shock of the attention cause the guy is focus on taking her back to the hotel. She does it a couple times to me again. I blow her a kiss and smile. ... I am starting to think maybe she really liked me. ... But at the same time she showed respect for someone who has not spent lots of money on her. This seg way into the argument of paying less or more. Who the girl respects. ...[/QUOTE]The only meaning of the middle finger that I know of is "Fuck you" or "Fuck off". Do you understand a different meaning of that gesture?

[QUOTE=Blakman;2502614]Took a cab to lleras. Nice crowd. Few girls in the park area. Decided to go in lleras park club. I love the music there. Bought a drink 20 mil. They have girls working in there to get you to buy drinks and to go home with. Approach a few girls get there numbers. Dance a little. Girls are nice but not stunners. Finish my beer check out the park area. Notice quite a few people going in gustos. Decide to head up there. I start to understand the dynamics of Gusto. The girls really look hot. Dolled up and everything. The fellas are business men, ballers, are fake ballers looking to have a good time. I am debating do I scrap my cheapy charlie mentality cause last week proved to me chicks going to hold at there price. Maybe things change at closing. I decide to stay being me and just enjoy window shopping. I take a look and guess who I see. My 8th. Oh shit. Looking blazing. She notices me as well and we smile. I realize the situation and she does as well. She's in the club to make money. She knows I am not spending. So my decision is to give her space and she carries on doing what girls do in gusto. She disappears with a group of vip guys. The music is banging. Majority blacks and other professionals who are very comfortable with having good time forking out big cash. A chick gets aggressive with me. I say how much. She says 160 dolares. I guess mil pesos language doesn't exist here LOL.[/QUOTE]I was in Lleras last night too from about 9-11 and I agree with you that the pickings were not what I hoped for on a Saturday night. I got a couple number form ones I thought were decent looking though. I didn't go in to gustos but I thing I would have a hard time keeping my face straight if a girl quoted me 160 dollars haha. I would have a hard time not laughing my ass of, after all that money would pay for 6 of my Facebook girls! I'm heading back to the states tomorrow but I had a great week here in Medellin. Specially thanks to Jbee62 who was great to hang out with and showed me around the city. I'm already planning a return trip in January haha.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2502614]Took a cab to lleras. Nice crowd. Few girls in the park area. Decided to go in lleras park club. I love the music there. Bought a drink 20 mil. I take a look and guess who I see. My 8th. Oh shit. Looking blazing. She notices me as well and we smile. I realize the situation and she does as well. She's in the club to make money. She knows I am not spending. So my decision is to give her space and she carries on doing what girls do in gusto. She disappears with a group of vip guys.. I see my 8th. A guy is buying her shots. She looks at me smiling and giving me the middle finger while the guy doesn't see. I am kinda shock of the attention cause the guy is focus on taking her back to the hotel. She does it a couple times to me again. I blow her a kiss and smile. Understanding the dynamics. She did tell me she gets 300 mil for like 10 minutes when we spent time in quarantine. Wondering why I am fussing over 300 mil a week I am paying for her time. I am starting to think maybe she really liked me. I mean she looked hot. Easily top 10 in there. The most I have done for her was had burger king delivered once. Each time she ask for money in the states I deleted her. Since I have been I rejected her. And when she came she let me videotape everything. So two things happened here. She did leave with the guy who was spending money on her. But at the same time she showed respect for someone who has not spent lots of money on her. This seg way into the argument of paying less or more. Who the girl respects..[/QUOTE]20 mil for a beer? A cheap guy wouldn't pay 20 mil for a beer or am I missing something? Your 8 gave you the finger and you think maybe she likes you? You paid 120 mil for a cutie and that's a good price but for how long and you were rushed because of phone call plus HJ finish. You should have been pissed but you only paid 120 mil that's why you got half ass treatment and phone call. The call is a scam to cut things short. As long as you are happy is what counts, I guess but please explain how buying a beer for 20 mil is being cheap and getting the finger means she likes you.

Its a signature humorous thing she loves to do. She did it in dancing video. She did it in a video while she was sucking my cock. She does it when we are joking around. I could understand your misinterpretation having not been around her. Very silly and humorous girl. Even in bed. But her performance to be so pretty is incredible.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2502693]The only meaning of the middle finger that I know of is "Fuck you" or "Fuck off". Do you understand a different meaning of that gesture?[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Blakman;2502614]So two things happened here. She did leave with the guy who was spending money on her. But at the same time she showed respect for someone who has not spent lots of money on her. We got in the can and I took my viagra pill right front of her. She gets a call and she's frustrated. I hear het tell the person 20 minutes. I tell her listen if its good I will bring you back. She says ok but clearly she's worried about the person rushing her. [/QUOTE]Blakcardman, look at you! Who is this guy?! I can't believe you didn't sneak a small bottle of aguardiente into Gusto, given the prices in there. Anyway, solid move with the 8, because the alternative was paying whatever the 4-night stay guy was offering. Sounds like you made out, in the end. Although, what are the chances it was a little role reversal, and YOU were the guy spending lots of money on the 19 yo, while she was rushing off to her traqueto boyfriend? The popping a viagra while you guys were in the can is just next level veteran confidence.

Gusto is straight up business, typically, in USD, as you mentioned. The nice thing is, you can get lucky with timing. Now, you have an ally in the viper pit. If you walk in there early or late enough, and she is there, you can take her at 130 k, or less, or maybe even one of her friends / colleagues.

I hate the taxi bullshit, but you probably won't make that mistake again. Good report.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2502614]She says show me. I show her. She then says pay me. I say no. She seems really confuse. We get into it and she's really affectionate. Moan while I am kissing on her neck. Sucking on her titties. I motion for head job. She pause then goes at it for little. Tries to put on the condom. I say no mas. She continues to suck and I force her head down. She likes that. 2 girls in a row. She sucks more with no needed assistance except for forcing her head down. You see the saliva. Nice she's into it. We put on the condom but she's shielding me from really fucking her. She gets a call and she's frustrated. I hear het tell the person 20 minutes. I tell her listen if its good I will bring you back. She says ok but clearly she's worried about the person rushing her. We go doggy. She lets me hit it good for few minutes then act like I hurt the pussy LOL. I remind her cut the bullshit. We go to missionary and I try to cum but can't. Get her to jerk it and she jerks me off. Normally I would be pissed. But I really couldn't blame her. I honestly think she wanted to get freaky but she came with others and had time restraints. I got my moneys worth from looking at that fresh body. And that's my night.[/QUOTE]Your reports never cease to be entertaining while being honest, keep them coming.

Regarding your evening, was your eight flipping you off, or just teasing you in Gustos. And then upon leaving Gusto's the taxi driver tries to rip you off, the Chica wanted to be paid first, then she pulls the cock blocking maneuver on you, and then tells you she can't take any more of a pounding, and your out 140 K for all of this. If it had been a stellar experience it would of been worth it, but as it turned out it wasn't, and don't take this the wrong way, but I think operating as a Cheap Charlie in Gustos is rarely going to reap good experiences versus the big spenders in the place. And contrary to what you may think, being cheap with the chicas in El Centro can have the same result as well, with hurried and rushed sessions.

You are dead on with the 19 year old. Cause the guy on the phone sounded angry and she seem so confused. So yes she probably was in a haste to get back to boyfriend. She ask for cab money. I said no. Saw her walking the streets to a cab. About the viagra. She said what is that cause I had the prescripted bottle LOL. I said viagra get my dick hard. About the liquor. There was an african guy next to me getting blitz. Offered me few shots. So no need to buy or sneak liquor in. Slapwisdom you should know by now I aint spending lots of money on nobody except my 2 daughters and momma. But I like Gusto. One day I will surprise yall and pay for something LOL.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2502716]Blakcardman, look at you! Who is this guy?! I can't believe you didn't sneak a small bottle of aguardiente into Gusto, given the prices in there. Anyway, solid move with the 8, because the alternative was paying whatever the 4-night stay guy was offering. Sounds like you made out, in the end. Although, what are the chances it was a little role reversal, and YOU were the guy spending lots of money on the 19 yo, while she was rushing off to her traqueto boyfriend? The popping a viagra while you guys were in the can is just next level veteran confidence.

Gusto is straight up business, typically, in USD, as you mentioned. The nice thing is, you can get lucky with timing. Now, you have an ally in the viper pit. If you walk in there early or late enough, and she is there, you can take her at 130 k, or less, or maybe even one of her friends / colleagues.

I hate the taxi bullshit, but you probably won't make that mistake again. Good report.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2502508]I am definitely not a Centro street rat. I love walking the streets, but I don't have any urge to pull from there. Although I do have a thing for the girls in the diviest of the dive bars. I'll have to make at least 1 visit there before I go.[/QUOTE]As you recall I was curious as to how you roll in Medellin, and find it interesting that you have no desire to pull from the streets. I thought you might, and would of never known until you started reporting since arriving.

What's so nice about Medellin is that there are so many ways to roll, with something for everybody, with no way being the right way or the wrong way.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2502568]I can not tell a mf what to do or what not to do. I can not tell a mf how to act or how not to act. I can not tell a mf what to pay or what not to pay. I can not tell a mf what to wear or what not to wear.

It may take some guys buttering a chick up. It may take some guys putting on their Sunday best. It may take some guys paying way more than other guys. It may take some guys bringing hookers gifts besides money.
[/QUOTE]Mr E, Your wisdom is always refreshing.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2502484]I have found most putas respect the guy that pays less, this is a generalization of course, the greediest ones (the sharks won't) but in my experience the less I offer, the less I pay, the more I get literally and figuratively, but go ahead and pay more than you have to and believe this if you want, but I seriously doubt grown men here with healthy self esteem will agree.

You talk about a payoff, LOL my idea of a payoff is getting it for free when I'm looking to pay for it, now that's what I call a payoff.

I'm looking to get it cheaper than everyone else, and I wind up getting it free.

At least in my case paying the minimum can lead to freebies, conversely I know guys that pay the max and totally get shammed and get nothing.

As goffering likes to write, paying more than one has to doesn't endear oneself to 3rd world putas, it only gets oneself labeled as an easy mark.

This is not rocket science bro.[/QUOTE]While mongering pros can easily see through such, this type of a post can mislead newbies into unnecessarily miserable experiences.

It is true that a correlation between donation rate and experience is poor, but claiming that paying less earns you better service / more respect and even freebies is just ridiculous. Occasionally getting lucky should not be confused for solid proof.

[QUOTE=Kib123;2502764]While mongering pros can easily see through such, this type of a post can mislead newbies into unnecessarily miserable experiences.

It is true that a correlation between donation rate and experience is poor, but claiming that paying less earns you better service / more respect and even freebies is just ridiculous. Occasionally getting lucky should not be confused for solid proof.[/QUOTE]Guys that don't overpay tends to mean said guy has game. Having game even when dealing with putas is what gets you better experience. It really has nothing to do with paying less or more. Also being willing to walk away or tell a ***** to leave if she ain't being cooperative regardless if you paying her or not is what increases positive experiences. Many women out here regardless of where they live ain't worth a shit but guys keep putting them on a pedestal. So charge these bitches and move on to someone who is enjoyable to be around. Your time should be the most valuable thing to you.

[QUOTE=Kib123;2502764]While mongering pros can easily see through such, this type of a post can mislead newbies into unnecessarily miserable experiences.

It is true that a correlation between donation rate and experience is poor, but claiming that paying less earns you better service / more respect and even freebies is just ridiculous. Occasionally getting lucky should not be confused for solid proof.[/QUOTE]I wrote.

I have found most putas respect the guy that pays less, this is a generalization of course, the greediest ones (the sharks won't) but in my experience the less I offer, the less I pay, the more I get.

I clearly wrote this was a generalization for mongers, do you know that word?

Occasionally getting lucky? That wouldn't apply to me because this is they way I monger, and I stand by the results.

The less I pay the more I get period, this is not serendipity!

And yes I have paid $500 before.

So I feel qualified to compare price vs service recd, it is solid proof for me if not for you.

"It is true that a correlation between donation rate and experience is poor" you write this then say what I state is ridiculous? Really? You seem confused.

And I have found the less I offer indicates to them they are going to have to accept the little I offer or get nothing.

If they want to fuck me they better take what I offer, and that leads some of them to fuck me for free because my theory is.

They may want to fuck me and consider it was a non P4P screw for them and forego the stipend I was offering.

Because that's what I consider my payment a stipend, not a King's ransom.

I prefer to give them money for a meal not to buy a car.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2502423]Medellin is a hot climate? What would you wear in the Caribbean or Thailand, a speedo and flip flops?[/QUOTE]Maybe some of y'all speak that fluent Spanish with no hint of an accent. If not then you are labeled a gringo. Even fluent speakers sound like gringos. So wear what you want is all I'm saying because it doesn't matter. What matters is whether you are that seasoned accent no BS gringo or that naive or carefree / flaunt yo wealth gringo. These people been dealing with gringos for decades. So I'm going to continue wearing what's comfortable and everyone should too. If you like rocking jeans then do you.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2502568]I can not tell a mf what to do or what not to do. I can not tell a mf how to act or how not to act. I can not tell a mf what to pay or what not to pay. I can not tell a mf what to wear or what not to wear.

It may take some guys buttering a chick up. It may take some guys putting on their Sunday best. It may take some guys paying way more than other guys. It may take some guys bringing hookers gifts besides money.

All I can say is that I am just myself and I get great results just being me. No special nothing. Just plain old me. If you are trying to make yourself into something that you are not then it probably will not work anyway. Like when I tried to make myself into a married guy. That lasted all of 2 years. No fights or arguments or anything like that, but I could no longer fool myself. I am a player. That is just my personality.[/QUOTE]Exactly! However, there are MFs who thrive on telling others what to do.

Peace.

I almost went to Parque Lleras last night.

Watch the show, LOL.

The girls trolling around, the Google translators out!

Fun to watch.

The girls roaming Parque Lleras I've seen recently are mostly barrio rats, with a few exceptions.
I like the Botero girls better, and some are the Botero girls, lol.

I haven't been up to Gustos in a bit.

I usually tire of the scene in about 15 minutes up there in Gustos.

Nothing wrong with it, just not my thing.

I figured I'd check out the Centro Strip clubs first though, since I'm already staying out this way.

Glad I did!

I was already tired from the day's activities, however, I met a nice one.

She was sitting with a Colombian dude when I spotted her.

Wow!

I was willing him to leave. I wanted him gone, LOL.

Sadly she went to do a session with him, but I thought wtf, I'll wait 30 min, see if they come out, if not, off to Lleras.

To my delight, they returned in like 15 min. LOL.

I quickly had a waiter guy grab her for me.

That's it!

We sat, drank, etc, together till closing.

She's coming over later this evening to my hotel.

I got lucky!

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2502727]As you recall I was curious as to how you roll in Medellin, and find it interesting that you have no desire to pull from the streets. I thought you might, and would of never known until you started reporting since arriving.

What's so nice about Medellin is that there are so many ways to roll, with something for everybody, with no way being the right way or the wrong way.[/QUOTE]Thirty years ago I pulled a few from the street in San Diego (California). That was when the cleaned out all the red light stuff from downtown, by the harbor. Almost overnight there were 30 hookers working down by the Sports Arena in Point Loma. I picked up a few, but was always disappointed. Rushed service, all business.

That may be what cooled me on street sweeties. But, hang out in a bar, talk to a girl for 10 minutes and I'm ready to go.

Friday one of the Medellin regulars I know sent me some messages. He said he had a girl I had to try. Usually I prefer to find my own, but there are a few guys I'll take referrals from.

Chatted with the girl a bit Friday and then last night. Told her today was probable for a meeting. Hit her up about 11:30 this morning and told her 4 pm. I wanted her here between 4:30 and 5, which is why I said 4. At 4:20 she was in the lobby.

She showed up wearing a short skirt and a thin halter top. She's thin, but not skinny, a few tattoos but not out of control yet. Got comfortable quickly and chatted for a few minutes, the went into full GFE mode. Plenty of DFK along with some grinding. Things proceeded well from there.

Made it to the bedroom and she was a fun handful. BBBJ was excellent. I rarely get close to finishing with oral, but she had me pulling her back in 2 minutes. DATY was sweet, she's smooth as can be. Worked through all my normal positions and she did well in each with the appropriate reaction. CFS, of course. She did ask if I use a condom with everyone and I told her, truthfully, I do.

Hung out chatting for about another hour and finished with a nice make out session. Excellent session. 200 k, 2 hours.

[QUOTE=PunkedLife;2502772]Guys that don't overpay tends to mean said guy has game. Having game even when dealing with putas is what gets you better experience. It really has nothing to do with paying less or more. Also being willing to walk away or tell a ***** to leave if she ain't being cooperative regardless if you paying her or not is what increases positive experiences. Many women out here regardless of where they live ain't worth a shit but guys keep putting them on a pedestal. So charge these bitches and move on to someone who is enjoyable to be around. Your time should be the most valuable thing to you.[/QUOTE]And can I get some writing tips? LMAO.

Touche.

Raudal may be your jam.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2502817]Thirty years ago I pulled a few from the street in San Diego (California). That was when the cleaned out all the red light stuff from downtown, by the harbor. Almost overnight there were 30 hookers working down by the Sports Arena in Point Loma. I picked up a few, but was always disappointed. Rushed service, all business.

That may be what cooled me on street sweeties. But, hang out in a bar, talk to a girl for 10 minutes and I'm ready to go.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2502822]Friday one of the Medellin regulars I know sent me some messages. He said he had a girl I had to try. Usually I prefer to find my own, but there are a few guys I'll take referrals from.

Chatted with the girl a bit Friday and then last night. Told her today was probable for a meeting. Hit her up about 11:30 this morning and told her 4 pm. I wanted her here between 4:30 and 5, which is why I said 4. At 4:20 she was in the lobby.

She showed up wearing a short skirt and a thin halter top. She's thin, but not skinny, a few tattoos but not out of control yet. Got comfortable quickly and chatted for a few minutes, the went into full GFE mode. Plenty of DFK along with some grinding. Things proceeded well from there.

Made it to the bedroom and she was a fun handful. BBBJ was excellent. I rarely get close to finishing with oral, but she had me pulling her back in 2 minutes. DATY was sweet, she's smooth as can be. Worked through all my normal positions and she did well in each with the appropriate reaction. CFS, of course. She did ask if I use a condom with everyone and I told her, truthfully, I do.

Hung out chatting for about another hour and finished with a nice make out session. Excellent session. 200 k, 2 hours.[/QUOTE]Her second face also known as her pussy. Leftover Lasagna? Catcher's Mitt? Shipwreck? Coin Slot? Hamburger Patty with Lettuce? No Lettuce? Beef Curtains? Trimmed Jib? Mudflaps? Rose Petals? Fat? Hollow? Shaved?

[QUOTE=PunkedLife;2502778]Maybe some of y'all speak that fluent Spanish with no hint of an accent. If not then you are labeled a gringo. Even fluent speakers sound like gringos. So wear what you want is all I'm saying because it doesn't matter. What matters is whether you are that seasoned accent no BS gringo or that naive or carefree / flaunt yo wealth gringo. These people been dealing with gringos for decades. So I'm going to continue wearing what's comfortable and everyone should too. If you like rocking jeans then do you.[/QUOTE]The point is Medellin is not exactly hot (unless as another poster said, you're accostumbed to an Arctic climate). The typical high of the day is about 80 degrees and it doesn't vary much from that.

Done Cartagena, killed it.

Arriving in Medellin in a couple days.

And Centro peaks my interest.

100% fluent in Espaol from Chicago so the fear factor doesn't exist in this one.

Any tips advice, street talent, casas.

[QUOTE=PunkedLife;2502778]Maybe some of y'all speak that fluent Spanish with no hint of an accent. If not then you are labeled a gringo. Even fluent speakers sound like gringos. So wear what you want is all I'm saying because it doesn't matter. What matters is whether you are that seasoned accent no BS gringo or that naive or carefree / flaunt yo wealth gringo. These people been dealing with gringos for decades. So I'm going to continue wearing what's comfortable and everyone should too. If you like rocking jeans then do you.[/QUOTE]Actually it does matter, quite a bit.

If you're dressed somewhat in the local style, everyone knows you're a tourist, but you don't stand out, unless your behavior is out of the ordinary. You're a tourist, but you're the same type of tourist everyone sees every day.

But when you're dressed much different from the norm, it's like a neon sign over your head.

Saw a friend of mine walking through Botero Plaza one night, along with another guy. The other guy was wearing shorts and a t-shirt. I chased them down and walked with them. The other guy wanted to check out Veracruz area. So I led the way.

Occasionally a few hookers have tried to get their hands around me. I grab their wrists, gently, tell them no and they leave me alone. I've never had one get really aggressive. Halfway down the block a girl zeroed in on the guy in shorts trying to get her hand in his pocket. She ended up tearing his shorts before he could get free. Drew enough attention to us that I thought there was going to be a fight.

Three obvious gringos, nobody bothered the two dressed normally.

There's a huge difference between being seen as a tourist and being seen as a target.

Saturday at lleras I had a brief conversation with an unassuming young lady. What I recognized was her body and at 27 she had no kids. I made my 100 mil 3 HR 2 leche oral without condom pitch. She rejected but I acquired her number. I wanted to see if my hunch was right about her body. Sunday we text I come with the same offer which she intellectually rejects. Inquires why I pay so little and require so much. I say its my standard please take no offense to you. I Guarentee a very good time, pleasure for both of us. She rejects again but later suggest I pay taxi. I say ok. Meet is at 4:30 pm. What do you know. On time. Fashion needs some work but its underneath I am concerned about. We hug she's very giggly throughout the meet. She shows me taxi amount 21 mil. Says she came from popular. I don't believe but say I will deal with it at the end. At the table is pineapples mix with grapes and my infamous popcorn. There was no 10 mil wine at exito so scratch the wine. We get romantic with the pineapples which was sweet. Hugs and kisses which she laughed everytime. Says she rarely kisses. Off to the bedroom. Couple pictures in front of the big mirror. Massage time. She takes off her clothes. Beautiful skin. Flat tummy, perfect tits, I mean perfect, nice ass, curves like I like. She's giggly throughout the massage, and when I go to eat her pussy. She says nooo. I keep my cool suspiciously motion to her to suck my dick. She comes to the dick with no hesitation. This might be the beginning of new discovery. Forget eating pussy and just recieve blowjobs instead. She takes her time with the head, getting it wet with saliva, wiping of the saliva and stroking the dick. Clearly I could see oral sex is her comfort zone. I did not need to say anything. All I had to do was just enjoy, let her work. It reach a point that I want to lay on my back and view her in action so we switch to that position. She continued her excellence. When I mentioned leche in la boca. Seem to excite her but she responded with confusion. First no mucho lecho, then no mucho tiempo and kept sucking. I was close to nutting then I said fuck that I want to fuck this pussy. So put on a condom and was hitting it doggy. It was okay but wasnt exciting. Then she got on top and that was okay but the passion wasnt there. She was a little boring in the fucking department mostly cause she was giggly and shy. Anyways we get to missionary and I get my mind to think of other chicks and big explosive nut. She likes it. Seems to make her feel good. Now here's the part I like about 3 hrs 2 leche. Rather than the girl get up and leave you can be social, feel some companionship and rest up to go again. You know you got a keeper if she patiently waits til your ready. 2nd go around I tell her we do not need to fuck. Just suck and jerk me off. She has no problem with this plan and went to work. 15 to 20 minutes later she shot me into heaven. I was convulsing, tony the tiger roar, and she did everything to continue the convulsions. Afterwards She took a shower and was trying to figure out what to wear to lleras park. I helped her out and showed her how to cook chicken in oil. She got more comfortable every minute and was jamming to my infamous playlist. She added salt to my plain popcorn and finished the bowl lol. I Walked her to the cab. Real smooth Sunday. Fell asleep and slept like a baby through the night. 120 mil well spent.

I managed to get a spy into Blakman's love shack. Trying to find out all of his secrets. So far, she only sent me this picture.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2502862]Her second face also known as her pussy. Leftover Lasagna? Catcher's Mitt? Shipwreck? Coin Slot? Hamburger Patty with Lettuce? No Lettuce? Beef Curtains? Trimmed Jib? Mudflaps? Rose Petals? Fat? Hollow? Shaved?[/QUOTE]Damn. I should have brought my micrometers to give you some exact measurements.

She had the fairly typical protruding inner lips, but not the beef curtains. Freshly shaved. Maybe an 8. 3 on the pussy appearance scale.

More for less. I live by it. I am trying to figure out how I can market it. Popfrodisiacorn maybe the title.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2502967]I managed to get a spy into Blakman's love shack. Trying to find out all of his secrets. So far, she only sent me this picture.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=PunkedLife;2502778]Maybe some of y'all speak that fluent Spanish with no hint of an accent. If not then you are labeled a gringo. Even fluent speakers sound like gringos. So wear what you want is all I'm saying because it doesn't matter. What matters is whether you are that seasoned accent no BS gringo or that naive or carefree / flaunt yo wealth gringo. These people been dealing with gringos for decades. So I'm going to continue wearing what's comfortable and everyone should too. If you like rocking jeans then do you.[/QUOTE]Colombians haven't been dealing with Gringos for decades, basically nobody went there up until just over a decade ago.

As far as the language, unless your a Native born Colombian living in Colombia all your life, versus someone with Spanish as a second language after English, they are going to know your a foreigner. The accent will be the giveaway, not the absence of it.

As far as how you dress, regardless of what your wearing, if you have blue eyes and blond hair it won't matter.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2502967]I managed to get a spy into Blakman's love shack. Trying to find out all of his secrets. So far, she only sent me this picture.[/QUOTE]I can't wait to see a photo of the vending machine where the weed and salt are kept! I heard it only takes bills, and doesn't give change, but don't quote me.

There's a girl on tinder that's an absolute 7. I sexed her during quarantine but turned her down next meet after a full night with my 8th. She would not meet with me again for the 150 3 hrs given first meet. The sex was unbelievable, body is like 2 percent body fat. Due to corona it was no kissing and eating her pussy. Anyone finds her is a lucky guy. Her voice sounds like she's european. Good luck gents.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2502954]Actually it does matter, quite a bit.

If you're dressed somewhat in the local style, everyone knows you're a tourist, but you don't stand out, unless your behavior is out of the ordinary. You're a tourist, but you're the same type of tourist everyone sees every day.

But when you're dressed much different from the norm, it's like a neon sign over your head.

Saw a friend of mine walking through Botero Plaza one night, along with another guy. The other guy was wearing shorts and a t-shirt. I chased them down and walked with them. The other guy wanted to check out Veracruz area. So I led the way.

Occasionally a few hookers have tried to get their hands around me. I grab their wrists, gently, tell them no and they leave me alone. I've never had one get really aggressive. Halfway down the block a girl zeroed in on the guy in shorts trying to get her hand in his pocket. She ended up tearing his shorts before he could get free. Drew enough attention to us that I thought there was going to be a fight.

Three obvious gringos, nobody bothered the two dressed normally.

There's a huge difference between being seen as a tourist and being seen as a target.[/QUOTE]All due respect Jbee2, but I don't see the distinction between being a tourist and a target. I look it as though all tourists are targets, regardless of how their dressed, and they all have targets on their backs.

How is a thief going to know whether the guy wearing shorts versus the guy wearing long pants has more or less valuables on them.

I believe it boils down more to which is going to be easier prey at any one moment and the physical surroundings, versus the clothes being worn.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2503019]I can't wait to see a photo of the vending machine where the weed and salt are kept! I heard it only takes bills, and doesn't give change, but don't quote me.[/QUOTE]I feel sorry for the fly's on the wall witnessing what goes on during the inetrcourse and jerk off sessions inside the apartment. If fly's can communicate, I wonder what they would be saying to one another.

Thats the secret weapon. All the skimming is forgotten when they get the massage. There is sanity behind the madness. Both you and jjbee is getting billed for this.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2503019]I can't wait to see a photo of the vending machine where the weed and salt are kept! I heard it only takes bills, and doesn't give change, but don't quote me.[/QUOTE].

Can anyone list the top 5 in MDE?

[URL]https://www.theworlds50best.com/stories/News/latin-americas-50-best-restaurants-2019-list-in-pictures.html[/URL]

Muchas gracias.

Wanted to ask some general questions before making the booking for next month.

1. Is there a 10 pm Curfew still? Saw reports regarding the Gusto and Parque Lleras and was a bit confused of current situation.

2. Any feedback on the flights being cancelled? There were some previous reports on Copa airline flights being cancelled frequently and Spirit airline as well.

12 am bar closes. Copa has cancelled my flight twice and changed hours another time. Being in the united states just reschedule but pain in the but in Colombia because of long hold time with customer service.

[QUOTE=OldBelly69;2503094]Wanted to ask some general questions before making the booking for next month.

1. Is there a 10 pm Curfew still? Saw reports regarding the Gusto and Parque Lleras and was a bit confused of current situation.

2. Any feedback on the flights being cancelled? There were some previous reports on Copa airline flights being cancelled frequently and Spirit airline as well.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=PunkedLife;2502772]Guys that don't overpay tends to mean said guy has game. Having game even when dealing with putas is what gets you better experience. It really has nothing to do with paying less or more. Also being willing to walk away or tell a ***** to leave if she ain't being cooperative regardless if you paying her or not is what increases positive experiences. Many women out here regardless of where they live ain't worth a shit but guys keep putting them on a pedestal. So charge these bitches and move on to someone who is enjoyable to be around. Your time should be the most valuable thing to you.[/QUOTE]Yeah, guys with game always travel to third world countries to pay for sex. Just like the NY Jets are the best team in the NFL this year. If you believe that, then it's no wonder you believe MS when he says he offers girls so little that they decide to fuck him for free instead LOL. Guess they have a different version of fuck off.

The guys with the lowest self esteem are the ones bragging about how much self esteem aka game they have. If you have self esteem you don't run around telling people you're getting sex from hookers for free. When I hear that, I wonder what kinda disease ridden, octogenarians, you're fucking.

If you really value your time, you don't waste it haggling with girls until you find one that gives you a pity fuck. "Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen. " Stop worrying about the extra $30 and fuck the girl you want, not Miss Congeniality.

Hey fellow mongers,

Touched down in Medellin and this is what I see so far. Bars close at 11-12 am depending on the establishment. Only two strip clubs open until 4 am if you want to drink and fuck after 12 am (feel free to name drop places if there are others).

I went to Gusto on Sunday. Closes at 12, kicks you out by 1230. Club is packed. Some talent in there but girls are expensive. Everyone wants an overnight experience. I paid for one but boy did she regret it because we were going all night hahaha.

La Islas. Closes at 4 am. I went in there around 8 pm on a Saturday night. There's some decent looking girls. You can of course take them to the room for an hour if you don't want the overnight experience. First time to the club but for the guys who buy bottles, they essentially get a few girls to the table and the girls are stuck there the whole night? That's some bullshit. There were 2 hotties in 2 different tables that I wanted to fuck but they kept saying no and I asked the staff and they said those girls were off limits even though the guys at their tables aren't interested. I mean if you aren't interested why not share the wealth and let me get a spin haha.

Anyways there wasn't anything that caught my attention so I went to Faison. It's a hole in the wall club but girls are cheaper. The personality on the girls here are better as they aren't as stuck up. Took a cutie upstairs and did our thing. Be careful fellas there is no hot water in here. I ended up using some baby wipes to clean myself off. Didn't leave this place until around 5 am and passed out.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2503025]All due respect Jbee2, but I don't see the distinction between being a tourist and a target. I look it as though all tourists are targets, regardless of how their dressed, and they all have targets on their backs.

How is a thief going to know whether the guy wearing shorts versus the guy wearing long pants has more or less valuables on them.

I believe it boils down more to which is going to be easier prey at any one moment and the physical surroundings, versus the clothes being worn.[/QUOTE]Sure all tourists are targets. Some are just more obvious targets. The guy talking in English loudly trying to fake a Spanish accent thinking somehow that will make the shopkeeper understand English is carrying a "Rob Me" sign. The guy gawking at everything might as well be waving his wallet. The guy with the Hawaiian shirt and the cargo shorts fits right in with them.

However, the guy who moves smoothly through the crowds, who looks relaxed and comfortable, mostly flies under the radar. Still a target, just less obviously an easy target.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2503026]I feel sorry for the fly's on the wall witnessing what goes on during the inetrcourse and jerk off sessions inside the apartment. If fly's can communicate, I wonder what they would be saying to one another.[/QUOTE]Ran it through Google Translate. The flies are saying "I missed out on a fresh dog turd for this?

[QUOTE=Gregorio777;2502908]Done Cartagena, killed it.

Arriving in Medellin in a couple days.

And Centro peaks my interest.

100% fluent in Espaol from Chicago so the fear factor doesn't exist in this one.

Any tips advice, street talent, casas.[/QUOTE]How was the scene in Cartagena? Has it improved?

[QUOTE=OldBelly69;2503094]Wanted to ask some general questions before making the booking for next month.

1. Is there a 10 pm Curfew still? Saw reports regarding the Gusto and Parque Lleras and was a bit confused of current situation.

2. Any feedback on the flights being cancelled? There were some previous reports on Copa airline flights being cancelled frequently and Spirit airline as well.[/QUOTE]1. Except for certain occasions curfew is midnight at this time.

2. Had no problem with Copa cancellation, although they changed the time on my flight from PTY which got me to Medellin 90 minutes earlier.

Guys I'm almost ready to book my flights. As soon as this year is done I'm ready to go. I'm thinking of giving it about a week after New Year. My question is this, how long after NY will things be back to full swing and the putas back from spending Christmas and New year with family as well as all bars and Casas etc open again. Obviously I know there'll still be the usual corona restrictions but I'm just wondering if there are any special events or holidays or something I need to be aware of right after New year, as I'm thinking about booking around the 5th Jan.

Also Blakman, what type of popcorn do you recommend and have you ever provided peanuts? 😜

[QUOTE=Flak3;2503120]Yeah, guys with game always travel to third world countries to pay for sex. Just like the NY Jets are the best team in the NFL this year. If you believe that, then it's no wonder you believe MS when he says he offers girls so little that they decide to fuck him for free instead LOL. Guess they have a different version of fuck off.

The guys with the lowest self esteem are the ones bragging about how much self esteem aka game they have. If you have self esteem you don't run around telling people you're getting sex from hookers for free. When I hear that, I wonder what kinda disease ridden, octogenarians, you're fucking.

If you really value your time, you don't waste it haggling with girls until you find one that gives you a pity fuck. "Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen. " Stop worrying about the extra $30 and fuck the girl you want, not Miss Congeniality.[/QUOTE]I might need to print this out and frame it.

All the talk about "game" and "respect" concerning hookers boggles the mind. If you need to believe that a woman, who will sell her pussy to anyone, respects you, then go right ahead. Just gave me a million dollar business idea: Sell coupon books like the old Entertainment books. Instead of half price deals the coupons will get you double the respect from all hookers. Only $19.95. Get yours Today!

No item under $2 is off limits to me. My 8th who I saw at gustos this weekend was snacking on kettle corn, peanuts, fruits and choroz hotdogs. Dick them down good they don't give a damn what you feed them. They will make up the difference from.

The next big spender LOL

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2503140]Guys I'm almost ready to book my flights. As soon as this year is done I'm ready to go. I'm thinking of giving it about a week after New Year. My question is this, how long after NY will things be back to full swing and the putas back from spending Christmas and New year with family as well as all bars and Casas etc open again. Obviously I know there'll still be the usual corona restrictions but I'm just wondering if there are any special events or holidays or something I need to be aware of right after New year, as I'm thinking about booking around the 5th Jan.

Also Blakman, what type of popcorn do you recommend and have you ever provided peanuts? 😜[/QUOTE].

I decided to take it slow tonight and I'm glad I did. This Miss Universe Colombia live show on RCN is pretty awesome. Tomorrow I'm thinking of honoring Blakman with a Laureles casa run. No promises Blakman but we shall see.

[QUOTE=Flak3;2503120]Yeah, guys with game always travel to third world countries to pay for sex. Just like the NY Jets are the best team in the NFL this year. If you believe that, then it's no wonder you believe MS when he says he offers girls so little that they decide to fuck him for free instead LOL. Guess they have a different version of fuck off.

The guys with the lowest self esteem are the ones bragging about how much self esteem aka game they have. If you have self esteem you don't run around telling people you're getting sex from hookers for free. When I hear that, I wonder what kinda disease ridden, octogenarians, you're fucking.

If you really value your time, you don't waste it haggling with girls until you find one that gives you a pity fuck. "Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen. " Stop worrying about the extra $30 and fuck the girl you want, not Miss Congeniality.[/QUOTE]We all know none of us are getting the level of talent for free in the USA We can get in MDE or a top mongering destination for money. It still boggles my mind the G. F. E. Sessions I've gotten on my mongering trips for 100 bucks or even less sometimes. On short trips, yes fuck it, spend the extra 30. Dudes who are there on longer trips, it absolutely makes sense to get it a little cheaper to fit your budget.

The main point I want to make is, lets not fuck the market up. Why pay 200 when you can pay 100 with a little negotiation? I am not speaking from experience, but I have heard places like Thailand and Costa got fucked up from too many mongers just throwing unnecessary funds at hoes without thinking about fucking the market up for us all. That being said, I don't want to tell any other man what to do with his money, but the point should be made to preserve Medellin as long as we can. I don't know of any city in the USA that can even come close to what you can get for 200 k. Will an extra 30 bucks fuck that up over night, no obviously not. But knowing the market prices and not being a total dumbass,"which I have fucking done and know it was fuckin stupid", is something it wouldn't hurt to take into consideration. I can't speak for anyone else, but for some reason, the less I pay, the better I feel when its all over. The worst is over paying and not getting what you expected.

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2503140]Guys I'm almost ready to book my flights. As soon as this year is done I'm ready to go. I'm thinking of giving it about a week after New Year. My question is this, how long after NY will things be back to full swing and the putas back from spending Christmas and New year with family as well as all bars and Casas etc open again. Obviously I know there'll still be the usual corona restrictions but I'm just wondering if there are any special events or holidays or something I need to be aware of right after New year, as I'm thinking about booking around the 5th Jan.

Also Blakman, what type of popcorn do you recommend and have you ever provided peanuts? 😜[/QUOTE]I partied right through Christmas in Medellin last year and had the time of my life. Christmas was dead, but I actually had a chick I banged a few days before txt me to see if we could go see the Christmas lights together that night haha. I met her at the mansion. I turned her down and used that night to recover from my hangovers. I ll be visiting again at the end of this year and plan on another great trip.

I am there every year for new year's the and week after. Things start back up just about right away. The fun is over and now there is rent to be paid and babies to be fed. January 5 should be more than good enough.

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2503140]Guys I'm almost ready to book my flights. As soon as this year is done I'm ready to go. I'm thinking of giving it about a week after New Year. My question is this, how long after NY will things be back to full swing and the putas back from spending Christmas and New year with family as well as all bars and Casas etc open again. Obviously I know there'll still be the usual corona restrictions but I'm just wondering if there are any special events or holidays or something I need to be aware of right after New year, as I'm thinking about booking around the 5th Jan.

Also Blakman, what type of popcorn do you recommend and have you ever provided peanuts? 😜[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2503014]Damn. I should have brought my micrometers to give you some exact measurements.

She had the fairly typical protruding inner lips, but not the beef curtains. Freshly shaved. Maybe an 8. 3 on the pussy appearance scale.[/QUOTE]But getting both is the bomb. Chicas love it when you tell them their pussy is cute. I'll be in Medellin soon and provide plenty of close ups jajajajja. One time I walked in on one of my regular chicas, she was sitting on the floor in front of a full length mirror staring at her cono, tears streaming down her face. She told me her pussy was like a "black spider" and she couldn't stand to look at it. I told her the white lie to make her feel better, but she was right, her pussy was not as cute as the rest of her. Once my face is buried I can't see a thing so it kinda doesn't matter, but I love talking to chicas about their chochos, when they're good. I find most Colombianas get turned on by dirty talk. I don't go slutty unless they ask for it. Colombian men have practically zero imagination. I will post a transcript soon you won't believe straight off Wassap.

[QUOTE=Njoean197;2503162]I partied right through Christmas in Medellin last year and had the time of my life. Christmas was dead, but I actually had a chick I banged a few days before txt me to see if we could go see the Christmas lights together that night haha. I met her at the mansion. I turned her down and used that night to recover from my hangovers. I ll be visiting again at the end of this year and plan on another great trip.[/QUOTE]I met her at the mansion.

[QUOTE=Flak3;2503120]Yeah, guys with game always travel to third world countries to pay for sex. Just like the NY Jets are the best team in the NFL this year. If you believe that, then it's no wonder you believe MS when he says he offers girls so little that they decide to fuck him for free instead LOL. Guess they have a different version of fuck off.

The guys with the lowest self esteem are the ones bragging about how much self esteem aka game they have. If you have self esteem you don't run around telling people you're getting sex from hookers for free. When I hear that, I wonder what kinda disease ridden, octogenarians, you're fucking.

If you really value your time, you don't waste it haggling with girls until you find one that gives you a pity fuck. "Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen. " Stop worrying about the extra $30 and fuck the girl you want, not Miss Congeniality.[/QUOTE]I have game in the states, not braggin. But my game there is like game on steroids when mongering. I got tired of the "game" in the states after being a perfect husband for XX years. When I started dating after divorce I felt like a target with women going after half my net worth. Much more honest and open in Colombia. Everyone understands the situation. I'd rather pay up front for the buffet than get chained to the some American golddigger who considers herself fine dining for gawd knows how many years. I noticed the younger the girls got the happier I felt and now here I am. I don't analyse it. Gringos who want no game and a wet hole only, more power to you. You may actually be the smarter one because you are contented with less. I never try to tell someone to be like me but I won't apologize for how I roll, either. Works for me.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2503159]I decided to take it slow tonight and I'm glad I did. This Miss Universe Colombia live show on RCN is pretty awesome. Tomorrow I'm thinking of honoring Blakman with a Laureles casa run. No promises Blakman but we shall see.[/QUOTE]Venezuela has produced seven Miss Universe winners, six Miss Worlds and seven Miss Internationals. On a per capita basis, no other country in the world comes close. Venezuela chicas are the best. And there are tens of thousands of them in Colombia due to the refugee crisis.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2503183]But getting both is the bomb. Chicas love it when you tell them their pussy is cute. I'll be in Medellin soon and provide plenty of close ups jajajajja. One time I walked in on one of my regular chicas, she was sitting on the floor in front of a full length mirror staring at her cono, tears streaming down her face. She told me her pussy was like a "black spider" and she couldn't stand to look at it. I told her the white lie to make her feel better, but she was right, her pussy was not as cute as the rest of her. Once my face is buried I can't see a thing so it kinda doesn't matter, but I love talking to chicas about their chochos, when they're good. I find most Colombianas get turned on by dirty talk. I don't go slutty unless they ask for it. Colombian men have practically zero imagination. I will post a transcript soon you won't believe straight off Wassap.[/QUOTE]I could care less how cute a pussy is. The only thing that matters to me is how tight and wet the girls pusssy is. If they open up like a house and my dick is flopping against the sides, I'm not going to finish. If it's tight as a drum, and "silky wet", now your talking! And if they can squeeze and clamp down on you while penetrating them, in other words make you scream "uncle" meaning you blowing your load, that's a keeper.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2503025]All due respect Jbee2, but I don't see the distinction between being a tourist and a target. I look it as though all tourists are targets, regardless of how their dressed, and they all have targets on their backs.

How is a thief going to know whether the guy wearing shorts versus the guy wearing long pants has more or less valuables on them.

I believe it boils down more to which is going to be easier prey at any one moment and the physical surroundings, versus the clothes being worn.[/QUOTE]So I was part of this experience. My friend wearing cargo shorts, although a rather big guy, appeared to be the easier target because he didn't blend into Veracruz atmosphere very well. And he thought he could just walk thru Veracruz without interacting with the girls. A girl approached and got her hand in an empty pocket and he overreacted with a 360 degree spin which ripped it. Would have been better to just look her in the eye and say 'no no no' without the drama. I'd say the cargo shorts made him look like a guy that didn't belong walking Veracruz and he probably shouldn't have been there. I'll blame that on jbee LOL.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2503141]I might need to print this out and frame it.

All the talk about "game" and "respect" concerning hookers boggles the mind. If you need to believe that a woman, who will sell her pussy to anyone, respects you, then go right ahead. Just gave me a million dollar business idea: Sell coupon books like the old Entertainment books. Instead of half price deals the coupons will get you double the respect from all hookers. Only $19.95. Get yours Today![/QUOTE]I don't know about respect from the chicas, I don't care too much as long as they are giving up the pussy and a GFE. But any guy who gets laid for free gets a certain amount of respect from me, because its not easy. I doubly repect them if the dude is ugly / old / gross and still gets chicas for free. Its a challenge that not everyone can do. Sure anyone can spend 100 bucks and can get laid. Not everyone has game. Most people here do not, That's why we're here paying money. The closer you can get to free and be happy the better IMO. In the same vein, I don't give girls respect for fucking dudes for free. LOL. Because its easy, any dude will fuck you for free if you're the slightest bit attractive as a girl. Now if you're an ugly chica, that can get dudes to pay $100 USD to fuck you, you get my respect as well. LOL in that rare case, I might just pay it to see what all the fuss is about LOL.

Its okay not to have game, that's why we have money, but I give respect where its due.

But hey if you get off on spending more than you need to, that's your thing. Enjoy yourself. Personally I don't have the big bucks to throw out the windows. If I did maybe I'd spend 300k per chica.... or maybe I'd just have 10 times the number of cheap hookers! HAHAH

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2503224]So I was part of this experience. My friend wearing cargo shorts, although a rather big guy, appeared to be the easier target because he didn't blend into Veracruz atmosphere very well. And he thought he could just walk thru Veracruz without interacting with the girls. A girl approached and got her hand in an empty pocket and he overreacted with a 360 degree spin which ripped it. Would have been better to just look her in the eye and say 'no no no' without the drama. I'd say the cargo shorts made him look like a guy that didn't belong walking Veracruz and he probably shouldn't have been there. I'll blame that on jbee LOL.[/QUOTE]I'll take the blame I should have put you in front and him in the middle so I could intercept anyone who got too aggressive.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2503197]I could care less how cute a pussy is. The only thing that matters to me is how tight and wet the girls pusssy is. If they open up like a house and my dick is flopping against the sides, I'm not going to finish. If it's tight as a drum, and "silky wet", now your talking! And if they can squeeze and clamp down on you while penetrating them, in other words make you scream "uncle" meaning you blowing your load, that's a keeper.[/QUOTE]Yeah, man, that's why I like the Filipinas. Tight as a vice grip. Hard to find one with big boobs, tho, I keep trying!

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2503195]Venezuela has produced seven Miss Universe winners, six Miss Worlds and seven Miss Internationals. On a per capita basis, no other country in the world comes close. Venezuela chicas are the best. And there are tens of thousands of them in Colombia due to the refugee crisis.[/QUOTE]The two Venezolas I have had were outstanding specimens of boobage, beauty and bangability. Viva la Venezolas!

[QUOTE=Flak3;2503120]Yeah, guys with game always travel to third world countries to pay for sex. [/QUOTE]It is not an either or. People can like to do both you know? I have a car to drive around town, but sometimes I like to take my motorcycle. I have ribeye steaks in the freezer, but I have sandwich meat in the refrigerator. I have tailor made suits in my closet, but I also have $5 shorts from Goodwill. I have crocodile shoes in my closet, but I also have $10 flip flops. Just because I can get chicks at home for free does not mean I do not want to travel to fuck paid chicks.

It seems most people do not understand what game is. Why is one guy getting BBBJ with no upcharge while another guy constantly pays 20K more? How is Blakman paying chicks 60K to chicks that originally wanted 150K while other mongers are reportedly paying 200K? All game is is people skills and personality. Looks like people are taking it to be some kind of magic spell or something. Blakman does not even speak the language but he has enough people skills and personality (it even shows through in his writing) to not only get these chicks down on price, but also have them having a great time with him and 5K peso popcorn, THEN wanting to come back.

When a coworker showed me Cupid in 2005 I already had people skills and personality. I said man if I could speak Spanish I would be hell. I ended up learning Spanish and I have been easily able to get non-pros in Latin America and have to work hookers in between them. As I said before, you can pay the listed price for something or you can use your people skills and personality or "game" to talk the person down and happily (not begrudgingly as some mongers imagine the case to be) give you a lower price.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2503195]Venezuela chicas are the best. And there are tens of thousands of them in Colombia due to the refugee crisis.[/QUOTE]Heading to the airport in Bogota the Uber driver had a talk show on the radio. They said there were over 1 million Venezuelan refugees in Colombia.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2502954]Actually it does matter, quite a bit.

If you're dressed somewhat in the local style, everyone knows you're a tourist, but you don't stand out, unless your behavior is out of the ordinary. You're a tourist, but you're the same type of tourist everyone sees every day.

But when you're dressed much different from the norm, it's like a neon sign over your head.

Saw a friend of mine walking through Botero Plaza one night, along with another guy. The other guy was wearing shorts and a t-shirt. I chased them down and walked with them. The other guy wanted to check out Veracruz area. So I led the way.

Occasionally a few hookers have tried to get their hands around me. I grab their wrists, gently, tell them no and they leave me alone. I've never had one get really aggressive. Halfway down the block a girl zeroed in on the guy in shorts trying to get her hand in his pocket. She ended up tearing his shorts before he could get free. Drew enough attention to us that I thought there was going to be a fight.

Three obvious gringos, nobody bothered the two dressed normally.

There's a huge difference between being seen as a tourist and being seen as a target.[/QUOTE]I've been pounding the table on this for years. Some get it, others are determined to reject and eschew. And, obviously most foreigners visiting are not aware of the issue or what has been debated about it in any forums or verbal discussions amongst travelers and hobbyists. At least once a week I see a example that just makes me shake my head in amazement of how out of place and oblivious they appear. Like walking through Manhattan wearing the Urban Sombrero

[QUOTE=Njoean197;2503160]We all know none of us are getting the level of talent for free in the USA We can get in MDE or a top mongering destination for money. It still boggles my mind the G. F. E. Sessions I've gotten on my mongering trips for 100 bucks or even less sometimes. On short trips, yes fuck it, spend the extra 30. Dudes who are there on longer trips, it absolutely makes sense to get it a little cheaper to fit your budget.

The main point I want to make is, lets not fuck the market up. Why pay 200 when you can pay 100 with a little negotiation? I am not speaking from experience, but I have heard places like Thailand and Costa got fucked up from too many mongers just throwing unnecessary funds at hoes without thinking about fucking the market up for us all. That being said, I don't want to tell any other man what to do with his money, but the point should be made to preserve Medellin as long as we can.[/QUOTE]Sigh. The egos of mongers blow me away. One of them posts about game, and all it shows me is that he has none. The price hookers take has to do with the wages of an economy. If a girl can make a decent wage, then she is not going to be making it on her back with a sweaty, fat, bald guy on top of her. None of the women want to do this even in Latin American countries. So if you mongers really want us to be getting cheap pussy, we should be all we can to sabotage the Colombian economy. Let's start blowing up oil wells!

As for one guy ruining it all with price, look at hotels. You guys staying at the Marriott or Hyatt are ruining it for all of us! These hotel owners think they can get $100 or $200 a night will make all the hotels raise their prices, and we cannot stay there for $30 or $40 a night. Why does nobody make those posts? Obviously, because there are only so many people who can pay top $ or are willing to pay top $ for the high end hotels.

To me, guys making excuses about money are cheap asses who cannot get women to take their measly amount of money and want to blame someone else. I paid $2000 total for my last trip to Colombia just for travel and lodging and some dummy is lecturing me about spending $50 too much on a 10. If I cared about saving money that much, I would have stayed at a cheaper hotel. I was on vacation and wanted to stay at a nice place and somewhere where I felt comfortable.

I do not care really all that much about how many $$$ I spend on a woman as long as I do not feel ripped off in Colombia. If a woman gives a shit effort, that is the only time I am upset about spending the money. Getting it for $20 versus $40 when I am on vacation, who gives a shit about that?

And for the guys who brag about their looks but also complain about other guys spending too much, I want to tell them, "Hey, why don't you go add on another 20 pounds to your mid section. You know to be fair to all of us?

There is a difference between real self-esteem and fake self-esteem, and I am not letting someone with six pack abs tell me that he owns all the best looking women. "You know those women only want you for money?" I have been told. Well, while you worked on your abs, I worked my ass off to put myself in a position to make the money I do. The truth is that I have learned that a whole lot of hot women are really more interested in men like me than men like you, and men like you cannot take it.

If I had your money, Elvis, I would. Here is a little tip. Why don't you go out it and earn your own money you lazy ass and quit bitching about what I do with my money?

You want to know what a loser really is? It is someone who cannot get what he wants and blames someone else.

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2503140]Guys I'm almost ready to book my flights. As soon as this year is done I'm ready to go. I'm thinking of giving it about a week after New Year. My question is this, how long after NY will things be back to full swing and the putas back from spending Christmas and New year with family as well as all bars and Casas etc open again. Obviously I know there'll still be the usual corona restrictions but I'm just wondering if there are any special events or holidays or something I need to be aware of right after New year, as I'm thinking about booking around the 5th Jan.

Also Blakman, what type of popcorn do you recommend and have you ever provided peanuts? 😜[/QUOTE]I'll be there from Jan. 2-25 . Had to cancel my trip in March this year. Such bad luck that my flight in March was the day after they locked down otherwise I wouldn't had mind being stuck there.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2503298]I don't know about respect from the chicas, I don't care too much as long as they are giving up the pussy and a GFE. But any guy who gets laid for free gets a certain amount of respect from me, because its not easy. I doubly repect them if the dude is ugly / old / gross and still gets chicas for free. Its a challenge that not everyone can do. Sure anyone can spend 100 bucks and can get laid. Not everyone has game. Most people here do not, That's why we're here paying money. The closer you can get to free and be happy the better IMO. In the same vein, I don't give girls respect for fucking dudes for free. LOL. Because its easy, any dude will fuck you for free if you're the slightest bit attractive as a girl. Now if you're an ugly chica, that can get dudes to pay $100 USD to fuck you, you get my respect as well. LOL in that rare case, I might just pay it to see what all the fuss is about LOL.

Its okay not to have game, that's why we have money, but I give respect where its due.

But hey if you get off on spending more than you need to, that's your thing. Enjoy yourself. Personally I don't have the big bucks to throw out the windows. If I did maybe I'd spend 300k per chica.... or maybe I'd just have 10 times the number of cheap hookers! HAHAH[/QUOTE]Touche Kazeu.

Just when I was being converted into a Gusto man, I heard a voice say go to centro go to centro. So I followed the voice. I see a big ass chocolate girl. Lose my sanity for a minute, but said not this time. Going to throw slapobservant for a curve. Took a spin around the block. I was determine to try premier plaza but I wanted something slim and nice. Giving chocolate girls a break today. Spot this perfectly shaped venuezlan good height and appears to not have kids. A voice again spoke in my ears. Said get her so I did. After 15 minutes of trying to sort out if premier allows venez. Off we go. 30 mil 20 mil for premier plaza. Sounds too much but you guys will clear that up for me. She is cool, no problem so far. She takes off her clothes and I want to fucking melt. I hit the jackpot. She wanted to move fast. I said suave and she was cool with it. Got handsy with me. Then I ask for the blowjob. Condom on and hey sensuous blowjob. She stops I direct her for more. She says mas. I say mucho. Great job. A little deepthroat. She gets on top ride me a little. Her skin is beautiful. Nice tits. Then doggy. Thats when the moaning started. Nice moans. Beautiful curves. I wanted a pic but I didn't want to stop the flow with the camera. Then missionary. She let me bang it for a bit. I tried hard to come but couldn't. Told her jerk it off. While jerking she gave me the look and licked her lips. I said si mi amor si. She kept doing it and I shot my load. Man that was good. So I was done and she ask for 50. I said 30 so compromise to 40 mil. The best part was the shower. Steaming hot water. I loved it. Was in there 15 minutes. Man I am close to being a centro rat for real. Now as Joe Biden would say at lleras park i picked up a similar youngie 130 mil, Centro with Hotel 60mil. From a cheapy charley point of few thats points for Centro. Surf have to give you credit as well.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2503392]Sigh. The egos of mongers blow me away. One of them posts about game, and all it shows me is that he has none. The price hookers take has to do with the wages of an economy. If a girl can make a decent wage, then she is not going to be making it on her back with a sweaty, fat, bald guy on top of her. None of the women want to do this even in Latin American countries. So if you mongers really want us to be getting cheap pussy, we should be all we can to sabotage the Colombian economy. Let's start blowing up oil wells!

As for one guy ruining it all with price, look at hotels. You guys staying at the Marriott or Hyatt are ruining it for all of us! These hotel owners think they can get $100 or $200 a night will make all the hotels raise their prices, and we cannot stay there for $30 or $40 a night. Why does nobody make those posts? Obviously, because there are only so many people who can pay top $ or are willing to pay top $ for the high end hotels.

To me, guys making excuses about money are cheap asses who cannot get women to take their measly amount of money and want to blame someone else. I paid $2000 total for my last trip to Colombia just for travel and lodging and some dummy is lecturing me about spending $50 too much on a 10. If I cared about saving money that much, I would have stayed at a cheaper hotel. I was on vacation and wanted to stay at a nice place and somewhere where I felt comfortable.

I do not care really all that much about how many $$$ I spend on a woman as long as I do not feel ripped off in Colombia. If a woman gives a shit effort, that is the only time I am upset about spending the money. Getting it for $20 versus $40 when I am on vacation, who gives a shit about that?

And for the guys who brag about their looks but also complain about other guys spending too much, I want to tell them, "Hey, why don't you go add on another 20 pounds to your mid section. You know to be fair to all of us?

There is a difference between real self-esteem and fake self-esteem, and I am not letting someone with six pack abs tell me that he owns all the best looking women. "You know those women only want you for money?" I have been told. Well, while you worked on your abs, I worked my ass off to put myself in a position to make the money I do. The truth is that I have learned that a whole lot of hot women are really more interested in men like me than men like you, and men like you cannot take it.

If I had your money, Elvis, I would. Here is a little tip. Why don't you go out it and earn your own money you lazy ass and quit bitching about what I do with my money?

You want to know what a loser really is? It is someone who cannot get what he wants and blames someone else.[/QUOTE]1000% agreed.

And guess what you can still get 6 packs abs anytime you want.

But can the guy with 6 pack abs get the $$ you got??

It's hilarious to me that people would even brag about game with HOOKERS.

If you get a service for a bit cheaper than the next guy did you ever think her situations change too. Maybe she was in desperate need of $$ at that time and had to make a rash decision?

I think everyone has their own comfort zone in where they like to play.

Whether it be 30-100 k range or 100-200 k range or 300 and up.

And I'm never one to judge someone but it's hilarious so many judge the ones who spend the most.

Guys should be using this board to share quality info. And honestly no one is doing much sharing.

But for the few that are giving useful info Cheers!!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2503340]It is not an either or. People can like to do both you know? I have a car to drive around town, but sometimes I like to take my motorcycle. I have ribeye steaks in the freezer, but I have sandwich meat in the refrigerator. I have tailor made suits in my closet, but I also have $5 shorts from Goodwill. I have crocodile shoes in my closet, but I also have $10 flip flops. Just because I can get chicks at home for free does not mean I do not want to travel to fuck paid chicks.

It seems most people do not understand what game is. Why is one guy getting BBBJ with no upcharge while another guy constantly pays 20K more? How is Blakman paying chicks 60K to chicks that originally wanted 150K while other mongers are reportedly paying 200K? All game is is people skills and personality. Looks like people are taking it to be some kind of magic spell or something. Blakman does not even speak the language but he has enough people skills and personality (it even shows through in his writing) to not only get these chicks down on price, but also have them having a great time with him and 5K peso popcorn, THEN wanting to come back.

When a coworker showed me Cupid in 2005 I already had people skills and personality. I said man if I could speak Spanish I would be hell. I ended up learning Spanish and I have been easily able to get non-pros in Latin America and have to work hookers in between them. As I said before, you can pay the listed price for something or you can use your people skills and personality or "game" to talk the person down and happily (not begrudgingly as some mongers imagine the case to be) give you a lower price.[/QUOTE]Game is closing the girl you want. "A sale is made on every call you make. Either you sell her or she sells you a reason she can't. Either way a sale is made, the only question is who is going to close? You or her?" Going from girl to girl until you find one that says yes. That's not game. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in awhile.

BM also reported paying a girl twice because the cops came over. What happened to his "game" Guess it only works sometimes, like a broken clock.

Just got to my hotel in Laureles. Staying at the San Peter. Anyone want to meet up? Thinking of going to Poblado tonight.

[QUOTE=Flak3;2503452]BM also reported paying a girl twice because the cops came over. What happened to his "game" Guess it only works sometimes, like a broken clock.[/QUOTE]Same thing with your money. You can not fuck every chick on the planet because you offer them money. That only works sometimes.

Hookers are still women. All things being equal they'd rather go with a guy that can make them laugh and / or is not gross to look at. That's just common sense, and yea there are guys with money that also have interesting personalities and / or haven't let their appearance go. These also may get more mileage in the cama if the girl is physically attracted to them. So if a guy thinks he has game, or looks or whatever that helps him, so what? Let him share. The guys that get so defensive when this subject comes up are also likely the ones that have little personality and / or are disgusting to look at.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2503141]All the talk about "game" and "respect" concerning hookers boggles the mind. If you need to believe that a woman, who will sell her pussy to anyone,[/QUOTE]This is generally true but not always true. Hookers are free to screen out guys. The curtains are there at the casas for a reason, so they can choose not to "present" to certain guys. And at places without curtains like New Life I've seen them skip past guys, though this doesn't happen often. Facebook girls are the ones more liable to pick and choose their appointments. It's a dual selection process.

I can't stop smiling. This is the next to last stage Blakman. You are going to make the rounds of mid range Laureles joints and have a Facebook girl or two and then you will hear that voice again "Centro, Centro" LOL! The next trip you make to Centro will likely be your whisker ceremony in which you become a full fledged Centro rat. Hell, you might even move out of Poblado to get closer to the action. Quick question you don't have to answer: did you get that Venezuelan's phone number?

In all honesty I am a little jealous and angry because I planned to roll through Plaza Botero today but I got roped into helping a friend shop for linen. By the time that was over the heavens opened up and a two hour thunderstorm rolled through until almost dark. Tomorrow is another day!

[QUOTE=Blakman;2503441]Just when I was being converted into a Gusto man, I heard a voice say go to centro go to centro. So I followed the voice. I see a big ass chocolate girl. Lose my sanity for a minute, but said not this time. Going to throw slapobservant for a curve. Took a spin around the block. I was determine to try premier plaza but I wanted something slim and nice. Giving chocolate girls a break today. Spot this perfectly shaped venuezlan good height and appears to not have kids. A voice again spoke in my ears. Said get her so I did. After 15 minutes of trying to sort out if premier allows venez. Off we go. 30 mil 20 mil for premier plaza. Sounds too much but you guys will clear that up for me. She is cool, no problem so far. She takes off her clothes and I want to fucking melt. I hit the jackpot. She wanted to move fast. I said suave and she was cool with it. Got handsy with me. Then I ask for the blowjob. Condom on and hey sensuous blowjob. She stops I direct her for more. She says mas. I say mucho. Great job. A little deepthroat. She gets on top ride me a little. Her skin is beautiful. Nice tits. Then doggy. Thats when the moaning started. Nice moans. Beautiful curves. I wanted a pic but I didn't want to stop the flow with the camera. Then missionary. She let me bang it for a bit. I tried hard to come but couldn't. Told her jerk it off. While jerking she gave me the look and licked her lips. I said si mi amor si. She kept doing it and I shot my load. Man that was good. So I was done and she ask for 50. I said 30 so compromise to 40 mil. The best part was the shower. Steaming hot water. I loved it. Was in there 15 minutes. Man I am close to being a centro rat for real. Now as Joe Biden would say at lleras park i picked up a similar youngie 130 mil, Centro with Hotel 60mil. From a cheapy charley point of few thats points for Centro. Surf have to give you credit as well.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2503468]Same thing with your money. You can not fuck every chick on the planet because you offer them money. That only works sometimes.[/QUOTE] "Whoever said money can't solve your problems
Must not have had enough money to solve 'em"

We're talking about pros not every chick. And there are way more pros wanting my money than pros I'd be willing to pay to fuck. If it's a choice between my money or your game, my money wins. When does a pro turn down money for a cunning linguist.

Your game would magically disappear if you lost your money. 20 year old Colombian girls aren't interested in you for your personality. They see a passport, money, and a chance at a better life. You're a walking lottery ticket. And not the only one. They probably have dozens, hoping one pays off.

Being nice to people is expected and normal. Does being a decent human being make you Don Juan. No. Does finding an uneducated, jobless, single mother in a pandemic, recessioned 3rd world country that accepts your low-ball offer mean you have game. No. No. No. No. No.

Game doesn't mean your perfect. Honestly I do not like the usage game. What I will say is I can outsmart most gamer. In the case with the cops, I let my guards down committed several mistakes and got gamed because theres no defense against policia in foreign country.

[QUOTE=Flak3;2503452]Game is closing the girl you want. "A sale is made on every call you make. Either you sell her or she sells you a reason she can't. Either way a sale is made, the only question is who is going to close? You or her?" Going from girl to girl until you find one that says yes. That's not game. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in awhile.

BM also reported paying a girl twice because the cops came over. What happened to his "game" Guess it only works sometimes, like a broken clock.[/QUOTE].

Just got to Medellin. First time. Staying at San Peter in Laureles. Anyone want to hit La 70 or Lleras?

[QUOTE=Blakman;2503110]12 am bar closes. Copa has cancelled my flight twice and changed hours another time. Being in the united states just reschedule but pain in the but in Colombia because of long hold time with customer service.

.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the response.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2503137]1. Except for certain occasions curfew is midnight at this time.

2. Had no problem with Copa cancellation, although they changed the time on my flight from PTY which got me to Medellin 90 minutes earlier.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your response.

[QUOTE=Mcd2293;2503123]Hey fellow mongers,

Touched down in Medellin and this is what I see so far.
La Islas. Closes at 4 am. I went in there around 8 pm on a Saturday night. There's some decent looking girls. First time to the club but for the guys who buy bottles, they essentially get a few girls to the table and the girls are stuck there the whole night? That's some bullshit. There were 2 hotties in 2 different tables that I wanted to fuck but they kept saying no and I asked the staff and they said those girls were off limits even though the guys at their tables aren't interested.

[/QUOTE]Thanks for the actual report. La Islas is always hit or miss for me. Have you try Fase Dos?

[QUOTE=Blakman;2503441]Just when I was being converted into a Gusto man, I heard a voice say go to centro go to centro. So I followed the voice. I see a big ass chocolate girl. Lose my sanity for a minute, but said not this time. Going to throw slapobservant for a curve. Took a spin around the block. I was determine to try premier plaza but I wanted something slim and nice. Giving chocolate girls a break today. Spot this perfectly shaped venuezlan good height and appears to not have kids. A voice again spoke in my ears. Said get her so I did. After 15 minutes of trying to sort out if premier allows venez. Off we go. 30 mil 20 mil for premier plaza. Sounds too much but you guys will clear that up for me. She is cool, no problem so far. She takes off her clothes and I want to fucking melt. I hit the jackpot. She wanted to move fast. I said suave and she was cool with it. Got handsy with me. Then I ask for the blowjob. Condom on and hey sensuous blowjob. She stops I direct her for more. She says mas. I say mucho. Great job. A little deepthroat. She gets on top ride me a little. Her skin is beautiful. Nice tits. Then doggy. Thats when the moaning started. Nice moans. Beautiful curves. I wanted a pic but I didn't want to stop the flow with the camera. Then missionary. She let me bang it for a bit. I tried hard to come but couldn't. Told her jerk it off. While jerking she gave me the look and licked her lips. I said si mi amor si. She kept doing it and I shot my load. Man that was good. So I was done and she ask for 50. I said 30 so compromise to 40 mil. The best part was the shower. Steaming hot water. I loved it. Was in there 15 minutes. Man I am close to being a centro rat for real. Now as Joe Biden would say at lleras park i picked up a similar youngie 130 mil, Centro with Hotel 60mil. From a cheapy charley point of few thats points for Centro. Surf have to give you credit as well.[/QUOTE]Your metamorphosis is in progress, and I nominate you for your first whisker. And instead of being a Cheap Charlie, you compromised by giving her a 10 K propina. By doing this she will want to go with you again, because the locals aren't giving out 10 K tips.

And if you decide to hit her up again, which sounds like you will, you can tell her that the BJ will be uncovered and if she asks for more which I suspect she might, just say no, and don't worry, she will fold and go with you.

So know that you have earned your first whisker, perhaps you ought to try something a little different. You need to look at this as though your a "cub scout" completing tasks along the way until you become a full fledged "street rat", meaning you have lots of whiskers. With extra whiskers earned for doing a "Sacalero" (glue sniffer) and yes there are some hot ones around. Or a very pregnant Chica, however I didn't see any out last week, or perhaps even a deaf mute you can share with Slapshot. What's nice about the mutes are they don't talk back to you.

So congrats on your new found playground!

[QUOTE=Mcd2293;2503123]
Anyways there wasn't anything that caught my attention so I went to Faison. It's a hole in the wall club but girls are cheaper. The personality on the girls here are better as they aren't as stuck up. Took a cutie upstairs and did our thing. Be careful fellas there is no hot water in here. I ended up using some baby wipes to clean myself off. Didn't leave this place until around 5 am and passed out.[/QUOTE]Never heard of this club. Can you give us a little more info.

[QUOTE=HoLover1;2503520]Never heard of this club. Can you give us a little more info.[/QUOTE]It's usually the after hours party spot for Fase Dos, San Diego, and Luna Lanera girls. It's a hole in the wall like previously stated but once in a while you can find a hottie.

It's like Paradise which is the after party for La Isla and Gustos girls. But less expensive and overall lower quality of talent. Last time I was there in March it was 190 to fuck on site. But since Fase Dos went up from 190-300 k now idk. I'm thinking the price is up here too.

I have a question. If I book a hotel with 3 people. I am a tutorial and my 2 friends are local Colombian. Do I still have to pay the 19% fee for hotel that they charge for non-tourist?

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2503475]Hookers are still women. All things being equal they'd rather go with a guy that can make them laugh and / or is not gross to look at. That's just common sense, and yea there are guys with money that also have interesting personalities and / or haven't let their appearance go. These also may get more mileage in the cama if the girl is physically attracted to them. So if a guy thinks he has game, or looks or whatever that helps him, so what? Let him share. The guys that get so defensive when this subject comes up are also likely the ones that have little personality and / or are disgusting to look at.[/QUOTE]I didn't express myself well about "game. " I don't fake the funk. I treat people as individuals including putas and I try to stay in the moment. Game to me is more in the Shakespearean sense, "All the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players." In reality, my game is that I have no game but I thought (probably wrongly) that writing it like that would make it more relatable to this audience. You got to admit, there is a ton of gamemenship that goes on here. Which is why I call the atmosphere a bunch of swinging dicks with aerosolized testosterone, jaja. That doesn't bother me, it's the nature of the beast and to be expected. This is a sex site.

No no no. I could never live with myself if I go the full whiskers. Lets stick with first whisker of finding a slim clean cutie and premier plaza. Simple works for me. Now break down premier plaza to me. It did not make much sense. A day is 32 mil. She says 20 mil is 4 hours. I paid 19 mil and only got 1 HR. Then she mentioned something about bringing a girl. I really didn't tip. She tried to get 50 mil and I just compromise to 40 mil.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2503513]Your metamorphosis is in progress, and I nominate you for your first whisker. And instead of being a Cheap Charlie, you compromised by giving her a 10 K propina. By doing this she will want to go with you again, because the locals aren't giving out 10 K tips.

And if you decide to hit her up again, which sounds like you will, you can tell her that the BJ will be uncovered and if she asks for more which I suspect she might, just say no, and don't worry, she will fold and go with you.

So know that you have earned your first whisker, perhaps you ought to try something a little different. You need to look at this as though your a "cub scout" completing tasks along the way until you become a full fledged "street rat", meaning you have lots of whiskers. With extra whiskers earned for doing a "Sacalero" (glue sniffer) and yes there are some hot ones around. Or a very pregnant Chica, however I didn't see any out last week, or perhaps even a deaf mute you can share with Slapshot. What's nice about the mutes are they don't talk back to you.

So congrats on your new found playground![/QUOTE].

Gustos is a prime example. You have girls starting at 300 us dollars not 300 mil pesos. That should be ridiculous. But obviously some hard working guy if you say so that has great income has made these prices the norm to these girls. I think most of the business men have scammed people out of money and is lavishly and illegally spending other peoples money but that's just speculation LOL. Some of these same girls work as prepagos for 130 mil pesos and hour. Speculation again. Theres reasons for pricing regulations. Centro 10 to 30 k, casas 50 to 130 k, lleras park 150 k, How the fuck did gustos shoot up to 300 Us dollars. Because selfish guys say I got the money, I am going to have a good time. Whatever it cost me I am paying it. Once a girl who makes 100 mil discovers she can make 300 us dollars why go back to 100 mil. Why not tell my girlfriends about this discovery. Bottom line is you have every right to spend what the hell you want. But dont act like it doesn't have an impact on the pricing.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2503446]1000% agreed.

And guess what you can still get 6 packs abs anytime you want.

But can the guy with 6 pack abs get the $$ you got??

It's hilarious to me that people would even brag about game with HOOKERS.

If you get a service for a bit cheaper than the next guy did you ever think her situations change too. Maybe she was in desperate need of $$ at that time and had to make a rash decision?

I think everyone has their own comfort zone in where they like to play.

Whether it be 30-100 k range or 100-200 k range or 300 and up.

And I'm never one to judge someone but it's hilarious so many judge the ones who spend the most.

Guys should be using this board to share quality info. And honestly no one is doing much sharing.

But for the few that are giving useful info Cheers!![/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2503343]Heading to the airport in Bogota the Uber driver had a talk show on the radio. They said there were over 1 million Venezuelan refugees in Colombia.[/QUOTE]"Tens of Thousands" I was taking my best guess out of the million or so Venezuelan refugees who are here, how many of them would be Fuckable Chicas, jajajaja?

Mi Numero Uno novia es Colombiana. But then of Chicas number 2 thru 6 in my line-up, four are Venezuelans. One was an accountant in Venezuela and she never thought she would be a sex worker. Actually she's not anymore but she still fucks me. For free. Had something to do with how do we put it, being "nice?" There may have even been a little gamesmenship involved (gasp).

The Venezuelan chicas are not hard to spot. For one thing, they are prettier. And taller. If you find yourself with a chance to hook up with a Venezuelana for half an hour or half a year, consider it. And they give better blow jobs, although that conclusion is a stretch on my part, I think it's true.

Please don't Private Message me and tell me your Venezuelan girl was a disappointment, or that you like Paisas better. Good for you, and that information would be irrelevant to me.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2503197]I could care less how cute a pussy is. The only thing that matters to me is how tight and wet the girls pusssy is. If they open up like a house and my dick is flopping against the sides, I'm not going to finish. If it's tight as a drum, and "silky wet", now your talking! And if they can squeeze and clamp down on you while penetrating them, in other words make you scream "uncle" meaning you blowing youBrr load, that's a keeper.[/QUOTE]That along with a certain look comes a certain feel. And did you know some guys like a loose pussy? Not me, but supposedly there is a group who like the rattling around against the walls, feel. Jajaja. A yoga instructor I was fucking back in the day taught me this. The first time right before we fucked she asked me did I like a loose pussy or a tight pussy, because with her muscle control, she had both? I said tight, but check this out. Loose did feel good in a different kind of way. Probably because I knew tight was there on demand, jajajaja. I asked her how many guys said "loose" and her answer was, "Enough to ask the question. " Brilliante.

Pussy appearance does matter, if not to you. As I write this, the Number One female cosmetic surgery in the United States is labioplasty or basically a "facelift" for the vagina. That is making a lot of money for a lot of plastic surgeons and GYNs. As the saying goes, follow the money jajaja.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2503595]Gustos is a prime example. You have girls starting at 300 us dollars not 300 mil pesos. That should be ridiculous. But obviously some hard working guy if you say so that has great income has made these prices the norm to these girls. I think most of the business men have scammed people out of money and is lavishly and illegally spending other peoples money but that's just speculation LOL. Some of these same girls work as prepagos for 130 mil pesos and hour. Speculation again. Theres reasons for pricing regulations. Centro 10 to 30 k, casas 50 to 130 k, lleras park 150 k, How the fuck did gustos shoot up to 300 Us dollars. Because selfish guys say I got the money, I am going to have a good time. Whatever it cost me I am paying it. Once a girl who makes 100 mil discovers she can make 300 us dollars why go back to 100 mil. Why not tell my girlfriends about this discovery. Bottom line is you have every right to spend what the hell you want. But dont act like it doesn't have an impact on the pricing..[/QUOTE]If someone earns 200K US $ or Euro per year and doesn't care if a girl at Gustos asks 300US$ and he doesn't care if she asks too much or not we can't blame him. Even if the girls in Gusto ask 300US$ those guys who don't want to pay that price will look to a different place to find a girl that they like in the price that they think it's fair. But you can't blame those guys who have money and they do not care if they ask too much or not. I guess same thing happens in the US. Don't tell me that in the US everybody can have sex with the most expensive escorts. Only those that they can afford it. Why in Colombia it should be different? It doesn't make sense.

Only know she's 21 vene. Very submissive and docile. Doesn't smoke weed but smoke cigarettes. She's very noticeable. Or that was my lucky day where she looked her best. Body is dead right. Like size 4-6 LOL. Any other hotels clean like priemier plaza in that area and cheaper.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2503481]I can't stop smiling. This is the next to last stage Blakman. You are going to make the rounds of mid range Laureles joints and have a Facebook girl or two and then you will hear that voice again "Centro, Centro" LOL! The next trip you make to Centro will likely be your whisker ceremony in which you become a full fledged Centro rat. Hell, you might even move out of Poblado to get closer to the action. Quick question you don't have to answer: did you get that Venezuelan's phone number? Any other hotels clean like premier plaza in the area

In all honesty I am a little jealous and angry because I planned to roll through Plaza Botero today but I got roped into helping a friend shop for linen. By the time that was over the heavens opened up and a two hour thunderstorm rolled through until almost dark. Tomorrow is another day![/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Blakman;2503595]Gustos is a prime example. You have girls starting at 300 us dollars not 300 mil pesos. That should be ridiculous. But obviously some hard working guy if you say so that has great income has made these prices the norm to these girls. I think most of the business men have scammed people out of money and is lavishly and illegally spending other peoples money but that's just speculation LOL. Some of these same girls work as prepagos for 130 mil pesos and hour. Speculation again. Theres reasons for pricing regulations. Centro 10 to 30 k, casas 50 to 130 k, lleras park 150 k, How the fuck did gustos shoot up to 300 Us dollars. Because selfish guys say I got the money, I am going to have a good time. Whatever it cost me I am paying it. Once a girl who makes 100 mil discovers she can make 300 us dollars why go back to 100 mil. Why not tell my girlfriends about this discovery. Bottom line is you have every right to spend what the hell you want. But dont act like it doesn't have an impact on the pricing.

.[/QUOTE]Gustos girls are going to charge what they charge. But here's the thing if a few guys spend 300 usd on a girl it doesn't mean that the girl will get that all the time.

What it does do is bring out new girls into the game all the time. Even normal girls will go out to Lleras look to make some extra $$. When your talking a 500 mil pesos and up it changes a girls mind quick.

These are girls from the mid to upper stratas.

They're not who you would find in Centro or a strip club.

Now yes there are girls who work online or at a casa and try to hit the jackpot in Lleras. However the overall quality of these girls in Gustos is a notch above.

I've banged girls from webcam sites and Bang bros porns. These girls already made $$$ and it would take them a certain amount of $$$ to open their legs.

I can understand when a guy goes to Centro and pays a girl 100 k or when you go to a casa and pay double the price but when it comes to Lleras there is no ruining the market.

If the girl is hot enough she will get her $$.

So overall it won't change the scene. There's the Centro scene, strip club scene, Lleras scene, fb scene.

I think each scene has to be separated from another.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2503591]No no no. I could never live with myself if I go the full whiskers. Lets stick with first whisker of finding a slim clean cutie and premier plaza. Simple works for me. Now break down premier plaza to me. It did not make much sense. A day is 32 mil. She says 20 mil is 4 hours. I paid 19 mil and only got 1 HR. Then she mentioned something about bringing a girl. I really didn't tip. She tried to get 50 mil and I just compromise to 40 mil..[/QUOTE]A couple of comments. In regards to what Premium Plaza charged you, I don't know what the current rates are there as I didn't use the Hotel last week, but what I do know is that certain girls who use the Hotel get kickbacks from the Hotel when they bring in a client. In the past I've seen some of my regulars handed a few thousand pesos upon departing and others nothing. You should of been allowed to stay for a more than an hour if not at least 3 hours for what you paid, so I'm confused about the hour. If when you arrived at the Hotel they didn't check her ID, then she probably has a track record with the Hotel, especially if she is a looker. You might want to try Zona Rosa across from the Church next time, it's only 13 K for a few hours and not nearly as nice, but works for me, but you will have to ask for an extra towel.

As far as what you paid the girl, well I personally would not of wasted my time with her. Slim and clean I like, but having to be cute is not so important for me. Given your description of her, she's seasoned, being with other gringos, and hustled you, albeit over chump change.

Lot's of guys come to El Centro looking for "trophy fucks", and I mean this on a totally visual level. For the other "street rat's" here which may not be willing to admit it, if you can get beyond how pretty the face is, there is a lot to be had, and available versus the hustlers, meaning the ones seasoned, and knowing how to play it with the Gringos, and I don't blame them, I would do the same. After a while you can learn to weed out the "hustlers" most of the time during the interview process, yet you need to have Spanish speaking skills to do so.

Now as far as your whisker status, well I'm going to suggest you try something a little bit different next time. I'm not suggesting a glue sniffer, albeit a few are good once you get beyond the stench, LOL, or a very pregnant Chica, or a deaf mute, but perhaps a "plain Jane" Chica with what appears to be a killer body, that's at least what I look for. I'm suggesting this to see how your experience might be compared to a seasoned Chica who knows how to hustle Gringos. You might be pleasantly surprised as to the outcome.

[QUOTE=Forever18;2503555]I have a question. If I book a hotel with 3 people. I am a tutorial and my 2 friends are local Colombian. Do I still have to pay the 19% fee for hotel that they charge for non-tourist?[/QUOTE]Technically if you have a USA Passport then the 19% would be two thirds of that amount. I checked in once to a Hotel with a Colombian with my USA Passport and was only charged 1/2 of the 19 %. However what you need to be careful of are Hotels that will try to charge you the full IVA 19% that only Citizens and Residents of Colombia are subject to.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2503595]Gustos is a prime example. You have girls starting at 300 us dollars not 300 mil pesos. That should be ridiculous. .[/QUOTE]Agreed.

They have probably been watching the Girlfriend Experience on Amazon Prime where guys are paying $2000 to fuck Elvis Presley's granddaughter.

There was a girl in Gusto that we spent quite a bit of time during quarentine. She initially wanted 250 prior to covid. With some good reasoning that covid has affected my earnings she dropped to 150 3 hrs, with some good fucking 250 for a day, then some more good fucking 300 mil for a week. Then 150 mil a day. This trip with out quarentine I did get 150 for 4 hrs. But she has been trying to increase to 200 and 300 mil for less hours. Why is that? The influx of guys willing to pay whatever they feel like. I think it does have impact and you think it doesn't but its one love. We agree to disagree.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2503675]Gustos girls are going to charge what they charge. But here's the thing if a few guys spend 300 usd on a girl it doesn't mean that the girl will get that all the time.

What it does do is bring out new girls into the game all the time. Even normal girls will go out to Lleras look to make some extra $$. When your talking a 500 mil pesos and up it changes a girls mind quick.

These are girls from the mid to upper stratas.

They're not who you would find in Centro or a strip club.

Now yes there are girls who work online or at a casa and try to hit the jackpot in Lleras. However the overall quality of these girls in Gustos is a notch above.

I've banged girls from webcam sites and Bang bros porns. These girls already made $$$ and it would take them a certain amount of $$$ to open their legs.

I can understand when a guy goes to Centro and pays a girl 100 k or when you go to a casa and pay double the price but when it comes to Lleras there is no ruining the market.

If the girl is hot enough she will get her $$.

So overall it won't change the scene. There's the Centro scene, strip club scene, Lleras scene, fb scene.

I think each scene has to be separated from another.[/QUOTE].

My closing statement was you can pay whatever you like its your right but do not ignore that your amount does affect the pricing

[QUOTE=Bookie77;2503621]If someone earns 200K US $ or Euro per year and doesn't care if a girl at Gustos asks 300US$ and he doesn't care if she asks too much or not we can't blame him. Even if the girls in Gusto ask 300US$ those guys who don't want to pay that price will look to a different place to find a girl that they like in the price that they think it's fair. But you can't blame those guys who have money and they do not care if they ask too much or not. I guess same thing happens in the US. Don't tell me that in the US everybody can have sex with the most expensive escorts. Only those that they can afford it. Why in Colombia it should be different? It doesn't make sense.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Bookie77;2503621]If someone earns 200K US $ or Euro per year and doesn't care if a girl at Gustos asks 300US$ and he doesn't care if she asks too much or not we can't blame him. Even if the girls in Gusto ask 300US$ those guys who don't want to pay that price will look to a different place to find a girl that they like in the price that they think it's fair. But you can't blame those guys who have money and they do not care if they ask too much or not. I guess same thing happens in the US. Don't tell me that in the US everybody can have sex with the most expensive escorts. Only those that they can afford it. Why in Colombia it should be different? It doesn't make sense.[/QUOTE]Even if you met Colombians outside of Colombia (in Panama or Mexico) they don't charge $200 USD for a fuck. Gustos is a clip joint. You're being robbed.

[QUOTE=Bookie77;2503621]If someone earns 200K US $ or Euro per year and doesn't care if a girl at Gustos asks 300US$ and he doesn't care if she asks too much or not we can't blame him. Even if the girls in Gusto ask 300US$ those guys who don't want to pay that price will look to a different place to find a girl that they like in the price that they think it's fair. But you can't blame those guys who have money and they do not care if they ask too much or not. I guess same thing happens in the US. Don't tell me that in the US everybody can have sex with the most expensive escorts. Only those that they can afford it. Why in Colombia it should be different? It doesn't make sense.[/QUOTE]Why do you think guys fly from the USA to South America? Because the market prices are fucked up there. Why do you want to compare what they overpay in USA London Tokyo, seriously? Col is not any of those places, at least not yet, but if it was up to you it would be just like them.

Weak mongers that overpay and write about it here commit 2 crimes, they overpay then they write about it here encouraging others to do the same.

ISG was started to help one another, not to fuck one another over!!

Don't be a misandrist.

1 beer or drink, cover charge, taxi and a pretty mamacita. Pm. Blakman LOL.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2503725]Even if you met Colombians outside of Colombia (in Panama or Mexico) they don't charge $200 USD for a fuck. Gustos is a clip joint. You're being robbed.[/QUOTE]You are right about Panama and even Mexico. I have met plenty of Colombian and Venezuelan women in Europe and the US that will definitely ask for 200 $+ for an hour even. Now no way in hell I'm going to pay that much but it is what they are asking because guys can afford to pay it.

Now IN Colombia, not many other than tourists would come even close to that. This week was my first time in Medellin and I tried really hard to hold to standard prices as I hugely over paid the first times I went to Mexico city and the first time I went to Bogota. In those cases I took only one or two trips a year and spend several months worth of money in the few says I visited. Now though (before COVID) I take several trips a year and try to get the best bang for my buck. I think the most I paid out of the 15 visits to my apartment this trip was 200 mil + 20 mil for taxi and that was to a smoking hot 19 year old that I HAD TO HAVE! The old me would not have thought for a second about paying her 100-200 $ dollars for a couple hours because I had the money to spend. New me talked her down from the 250 k + 50 k for taxi she was originally asking.

I guess I should have marked it on my calendar. Every 3 months we go over the same tired arguments over pricing and it's always the same stuff.

Blakman, the reason why your quarantine girl dropped her price so much during quarantine is simple, she had no other customers. Now she has other options and the chance of her getting her original price has gone up.

Yippiekayay, Gusto is Gusto. It's not for someone wanting to watch their budget. You find that all over. I can go to Golden Corral and Spend $15 for steak and all I can eat of everything, or I can go to Ruth Chris for steak and spend $80 for half as much food. In Vegas I can go spend $20 a night for a hotel or $400 per night. The people who drop $1000 a night in Gusto are no different than the people dropping $50,000 in a weekend at the Bellagio. If it's in your budget and that's your scene, it's the place to be.

Sangnyc, the girls in Parque Lleras are the same low estrato girls you'll find on Facebook and elsewhere. The high estrato girls are there hanging out and partying with their friends, not looking for a gringo payday.

There are women in the US charging $10,000 and up for a date. There are women in the US charging $60 for a blowjob. No matter how many guys pay $60 for a blowjob, not one of the $10 k girls is coming down to $60. There are girls in Colombia charging $1000 and more. Doesn't matter how many of us spend $12-$15 in El Centro, the girls asking top dollar are still going to ask top dollar.

Pay the price you want to pay. If the girl won't take it move on. If you want to pay more, pay more. Unless you're paying 10,000 times the normal price you're not going to overcome the price pressure from the Colombian mongers.

[QUOTE=BootyBandit84;2503737]You are right about Panama and even Mexico. I have met plenty of Colombian and Venezuelan women in Europe and the US that will definitely ask for 200 $+ for an hour even. Now no way in hell I'm going to pay that much but it is what they are asking because guys can afford to pay it.

Now IN Colombia, not many other than tourists would come even close to that. This week was my first time in Medellin and I tried really hard to hold to standard prices as I hugely over paid the first times I went to Mexico city and the first time I went to Bogota. In those cases I took only one or two trips a year and spend several months worth of money in the few says I visited. Now though (before COVID) I take several trips a year and try to get the best bang for my buck. I think the most I paid out of the 15 visits to my apartment this trip was 200 mil + 20 mil for taxi and that was to a smoking hot 19 year old that I HAD TO HAVE! The old me would not have thought for a second about paying her 100-200 $ dollars for a couple hours because I had the money to spend. New me talked her down from the 250 k + 50 k for taxi she was originally asking.[/QUOTE]BootyBandit84,

Was curious where you were finding these girls for visits? Online or clubs? Thanks.

I've been out of commission since Monday night. Hoping to be back on my feet tomorrow or Friday. I started coming down with something Monday night and by Tuesday morning I would have paid someone to put me out of my misery. My amateur diagnosis is strep throat. Should have an idea by tomorrow if the antibiotics knock it back.

One of the non-pros brought me food, medicine and some basic supplies today, so I can continue to isolate and rest up. Many thanks to the ISG members I've been talking with for their offers of assistance.

Yesterday's thunderstorm in Laureles was a big one. Not a bad day to stay inside, although I'd rather have been inside doing something warm and wet.

Spent a few hours Monday meeting with the non-pro who would really like an old, fat and tall gringo husband. Unfortunately, it was just a public meeting and lunch. Hoping to get her over before I go.

Last Saturday 3 of the other girls were supposed to take me to Guatape, but one has a sick mother. The trip got moved to Tuesday and then to today, when I had to cancel. I'm hoping I feel good enough to get the trip in Friday or Saturday.

Sunday is my exit day and my boss is already calling wanting me back earlier. Like the girls of Medellin, he'll just have to wait.

[QUOTE=BootyBandit84;2503737]You are right about Panama and even Mexico. I have met plenty of Colombian and Venezuelan women in Europe and the US that will definitely ask for 200 $+ for an hour even. Now no way in hell I'm going to pay that much but it is what they are asking because guys can afford to pay it.

Now IN Colombia, not many other than tourists would come even close to that. This week was my first time in Medellin and I tried really hard to hold to standard prices as I hugely over paid the first times I went to Mexico city and the first time I went to Bogota. In those cases I took only one or two trips a year and spend several months worth of money in the few says I visited. Now though (before COVID) I take several trips a year and try to get the best bang for my buck. I think the most I paid out of the 15 visits to my apartment this trip was 200 mil + 20 mil for taxi and that was to a smoking hot 19 year old that I HAD TO HAVE! The old me would not have thought for a second about paying her 100-200 $ dollars for a couple hours because I had the money to spend. New me talked her down from the 250 k + 50 k for taxi she was originally asking.[/QUOTE]Living expenses are higher in Europe and the US. I would understand $200 USD for a hot working girl. That is not the case in Colombia. Very rarely will a chica say no to a reasonable offer. The only times I have gotten a no to 200 K is when I wanted more than just a straight covered fuck (not bareback). The only other time I saw 200 k being turned down is during the busy season in Cartagena. If the chica has lots of offers she will turn you down. If you ask for something above normal she may turn you down. Otherwise they are almost always going to take 200 k. And currency valuation does not matter. It never has and never will. Unless the cost of living goes up they won't expect more.

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Incidently, I did post this in the past about Gustos. I, not once but twice, met a chica in there got her number and told her I wouldn't pay 200 USD. THE SAME NIGHT I would bump into her in lleras and she would go for 200k. There's something about that place that makes the chicas always ask for 200 USD. Even if they go for less outside of Gustos.