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[QUOTE=Iceberg27;1406556]Hello I will have a 5 days vacation in the end of April. I have been in Russia-Ukraine-Chech Rep-France. I have schengen visa so I want to spend these 5 days somewhere in Europe. I am interested in Freebie scene but it s also important to find some reasonable price P4P when I can't catch anything. I am considering Poland or Spain or Germany? What would be your advice?[/QUOTE]Germany would be the best in my opinion.
[QUOTE=Iceberg27;1406556]Hello I will have a 5 days vacation in the end of April. I have been in Russia-Ukraine-Chech Rep-France. I have schengen visa so I want to spend these 5 days somewhere in Europe. I am interested in Freebie scene but it s also important to find some reasonable price P4P when I can't catch anything. I am considering Poland or Spain or Germany? What would be your advice?[/QUOTE]Spain is good for reasonable price P4P in Madrid. Nevertheless, in Spain, you will not get any opportunities with freebies as local women are very closed off. Spanish brothels are very high standard, especially in Madrid. You will get there girls from Romania, South america and eastern Europe. I think about El stark in madrid for instance.
In Germany, you got the FKK clubs but I find the ladies quality below spanish brothels. Plus, in Germany, as for any countries in western europe, there is no opportunities for Freebies.
In Poland, I know there are opportunities with freebies, I have met many open minded and accessible Polish women. Nevertheless, I don't know anything about P4P in poland.
Since you give more importance to freebies I would advise you to go to Poland because that's the place where you will have much more opportunities with freebies. I lived in Germany and Spain, and today I consider the freebies scene to be dead in those countries.
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[QUOTE=Henri Dufresne; 1406713]Spain is good for reasonable price P4P in Madrid. Nevertheless, in Spain, you will not get any opportunities with freebies as local women are very closed off. Spanish brothels are very high standard, especially in Madrid. You will get there girls from Romania, South america and eastern Europe. I think about El stark in madrid for instance.
In Germany, you got the FKK clubs but I find the ladies quality below spanish brothels. Plus, in Germany, as for any countries in western europe, there is no opportunities for Freebies.
In Poland, I know there are opportunities with freebies, I have met many open minded and accessible Polish women. Nevertheless, I don't know anything about P4P in poland.
Since you give more importance to freebies I would advise you to go to Poland because that's the place where you will have much more opportunities with freebies. I lived in Germany and Spain, and today I consider the freebies scene to be dead in those countries.[/QUOTE]Thanks for help Dufresne. I am considering Poland at the moment. Maybe I take the train from Warsaw to Berlin for the last two days of my trip. Another point that I think is Warsaw is a little city and I live in Istanbul so maybe I get bored. Berlin is a metropol. Anyway maybe I shouldn't think that much. Maybe I just try moscow again. I don't know. For people here I want to share my experiences. I have been in Thailand-Check Rep-Ukraine-Russia-Azerbaijan-Italy-France-China Best of all like all mongerers would agree with me Thailand and Russia. Everyone can have their own opinions depending on their own preferrations. Thailand isn't a so attractive place for me despite very low P4P prices and plus freebie opportunities because of their dark and childish look. Russia is very cold in winter and a second point is; I want to be somewhere that I have never been. It looks like Brasil is the best choice (I made a long research on Forum) but it's simply 13 hour flight for me so for 5 days it impossible. Many people would ask why I don't go to Ukraine just one and a half hour. Because both Kiev and Odessa are full of sharks (You are a sex tourist huh!) But I advise people to go the insider and undiscovered places of Ukraine like Kharkov. Me and a friend had spend 3 days there. It's a student city and my friend had scored there 2 days one after the other. In moscow I had even scored in Real Mccoy Moscow (&305; t's closed BTW) so Moscow is one of the best in means of Frebie I guess. My consideration about Warsaw is it must be a very very little and calm city so it's possible to get bored ther. I don't know I am still comparing the alternatives. So any of you have any opinions please share. I am open to discussions.
A question for experienced Asia hands:
I think we can all agree that LOS and PI are the best mongering destinations in Asia, if not the world. But what if those two places, for whatever reason, were off limits? What are the next best choices?
To put it another way, if you were to go on a one-week mongering trip anywhere in East Asia except the two mentioned countries, where would you go, taking into account mongering cost and availability, but not travel costs?
[QUOTE=Iceberg27;1411132]Thanks for the info Punter. I am 34 years old. You are right it's not easy to understand in Thailand who is pro who is semi-pro neither in Ukraine. If the girls doesn't ask for money before or after sex I suppose she's a freebie. I had tried La pachanga salsa club in Paris and I came across a friend from Istanbul and he picked up a Chinese freely. Anyway if I could be a bit smarter and calm or in a good mood maybe I could also score there. I danced with maybe 10 girls or and after a certain time they were drunk and very much tolerative against my abuses. Also if I was 20-30 why. O and good looking I would definitely score in the club below the king george bridge that I go for a electronic music concert. Anyway. This is another issue. Now I am considering to go somewhere in Europe. It would be Berlin most probably. Atl least I can find may choices for P4P if can't score in a disco. I think freebie scene discussions is very weak in this forum and I understand why it is (this forum is dedicated to P4P) so if any of you have experiences please share. Especially for Europe. I also consider to go Warsaw but I am not sure. BR.[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?661-Paris&p=1411132&viewfull=1#post1411132[/url]
Since I've seen this discussion, surfing on the forums, I reply to you in this thread, which is much more appropriated. Well, you talked about Germany, and Berlin specifically. For my experience, Berlin is the mongers' heaven in Europe by now. I usually go to Berlin, and honestly, I spend my time from brothel to brothel. Check the forum on Berlin, which is full of informations. But, for my experience, Berlin has been a waste of time for the freebie scene. Anyway, the nightlife in Berlin is more or less everywhere, many clubs in the neighborhood of Mitte or Kreuzberg or close to them. Some clubs are the Matrix, Metropol, Sage Club, etc. But, as I said, I consider a waste of time searching for freebie with the tons of brothels, escort, and so on in Berlin.
You just tried Paris. Ok. One awful country both for P4P and freebie is Italy. This is due by the bad attitude of Italian women generally speaking and by the awful, overpriced, monotonous P4P scene. I wrote some report in that section. At least, in Spain you have much more choice for P4P, like in the puticlub, brothels, massage parlors.
The worst countries for sex in Europe are, IMHO the Scandinavian states. I know, it should be sound weird, but having been in Oslo, Stockholm, Goteburg, etc. I can say that in the end I wanted to shoot myself in the head. The girls were played hard to get, and the poor mongers are persecuted by the law if busted with the pros. And finally is very difficult the access to the service.
Honestly, I'm not so experienced of the Eastern Europe, but in Romania in Bucarest and Timisoara I picked up a couple of semi-pros and P4P. In Timisoara I asked to the receptionist of my hotel to find me a good P4P. Prague is interesting because is a wonderful city and because of its brothels and privat, whereas in Budapest I noticed a lot of sharks and traps. So the scene in Budapest may be more complicated. In Warsaw are famous some discos such as Platinum (also with overpriced freelance) , Opera, Paparazzi, Mirage all situated in centre. For 'institutionalized' P4P, is famous Villa Rosa. Maybe consider Krakow in Poland. I never went there, but I read interesting news, also for P4P.
For the question freebie / P4P in LOS. I honestly think that beside gogo, massage parlors and beer bars, the 90% of the so called 'freebie' who go with the farangs basically are freelance / semi-pro, so they go for money and making up their incomes. It always the same story, with receptionists, female university students, shop assistants or waitresses. Maybe sometimes you can find the girl a bit more shy, or who doesn't ask you directly the severance tax, but I usually left the due in order to avoid misunderstandings, more take care and to become a sponsor. Sooner or later a sick relative or a family disgrace always happen.
Since BKK is a great megalopolis the freebie may happen more often, but the more touristic is a place, the more P4P you find, such as in Phuket, Koh Samui, not to mention Pattaya, a city built for mongers, where is mathematically impossible the freebie.
For the question about the forum, I'the rather not talk too much about freebie. As I wrote, that's because it depends on the individual skills and on situations that may occur. The only requirement is to be the right person at the right time. A report on freebie is too much subjective and arbitrary to be useful for others users. I personally left another forum with the simultaneous presence of freebie / P4P reports, because of the continuous flames, trolls, discussions and big talks. IMHO a forum with rates, location, performances and so on is much more useful for a wide audience, because of objectivity and 'repeatability'.
Of course, these are just my 2 cents.
Good luck!
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The worst countries for sex in Europe are, IMHO the Scandinavian states. I know, it should be sound weird, but having been in Oslo, Stockholm, Goteburg, etc. I can say that in the end I wanted to shoot myself in the head. The girls were played hard to get, and the poor mongers are persecuted by the law if busted with the pros. And finally is very difficult the access to the service.
Good luck![/QUOTE]Thanks PW for a very comprehensive report. I'm headed to Scandinavia in two weeks for two weeks. Having read the country forums, my expectations are super low already, but is it true that one can be persecuted by the law if busted with the pros in all four Nordics countries? I thought only in Sweden.
[QUOTE=VikJohn;1413138]Thanks PW for a very comprehensive report. I'm headed to Scandinavia in two weeks for two weeks. Having read the country forums, my expectations are super low already, but is it true that one can be persecuted by the law if busted with the pros in all four Nordics countries? I thought only in Sweden.[/QUOTE]Thanks mate. As far as I know, the scandinavian states, Norway, Sweden, plus Iceland have adopted the socalled 'Swedish model', providing the criminalization of the monger but NOT of the prostitute. The assumption is that the prostitution is always and in any case exploitation of women, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] and violence of men over women. These hypocritical and intolerant winds are blowing also in Europe. Denmark planned to implement a legislation against mongers explicitly inspired by swedish model, even if it's still a proposal, at least until now. The French government was planning to import this intolerant model also in France, but finally I think that they won't be successful, at least I hope. Iceland even has gone beyond: they banned the porn online.
Good luck for your trip.
Dear Punter,
Thanks for the info you shared. It was useful. I agree with some of your opinions and not with some of the others. Anyway I just want to share my opinion for people who is also indecisive about where to go. For example about 4 years ago when I was a newbie. I very much prefer someone tell me that Berlin is much much better than Prague or Budapest. I was in Artemis for 2 days on last weekend and you can check my report from.
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Now the only option that I will try is Brasil. After all testings are completed I will make a repeat list for myself and I must admit you that Thailand will be on the list one hundred percent because One: it's also a great place to spend time while you are trying to recover after 5 fucks in Soi Cowboy. Two:Very cheap P4P options and possibility of free sex (freebie). Also after that visit I had speculated smt very important in my mind. First specify the type of woman you like before you go. The Latin Americans-The EE beauties or Asians. In LA a significant percentage of girls would be africans or mixed blood, in asia most of them will be short and childish look and in EE they will be white skinned blonde and brown haired mostly. Of course I am just generalising. I had also seen many very beautiful Dark skinned Ukranians or white asians or very warm Russians. Personally I am very much interested in blonde and tall woman so I am ready to pay a bit more for a Russian. That's why I find mylself in the Russian Striptease Club in Pattaya. I have never been with a Latin American but I know I am not always into Africans and mixed blood. Thirdly asians are great but a woman 35 years old and looks like 15 years old isn't something that I prefer so my choice is clear. But I know I will go to Brasil or possibly Argentina just for smelling the air. And also I know that this FKK is something to me because I am feeling like it is builded and designed for me. Easy to enter-legal-safe and regular. Frankfurt is also on my next destinations list but getting visa is another trouble for me. Briefly my country list will be smt like that Germany-Thailand-Russia-Ukraine-Chech Republic-Hungary-Italy-France-Azerbaijan.
It's also possible to check pictures before you go but you will have a limited view. You can check each thread's photo gallery section but I believe it doesn't give a true opinion beacuse very few of girls allow you take a picture. Maybe you can try youtube or some other video sites or betterly the escort sites.
Note: I had troubles with these lists but I just can't stop myself because I always needed smt like that before I decide where to go.
Regards.
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[QUOTE=Iceberg27; 1414904]Dear Punter,
Also after that visit I had speculated smt very important in my mind. First specify the type of woman you like before you go. The Latin Americans-The EE beauties or Asians. In LA a significant percentage of girls would be africans or mixed blood, in asia most of them will be short and childish look and in EE they will be white skinned blonde and brown haired mostly. Of course I am just generalising. I had also seen many very beautiful Dark skinned Ukranians or white asians or very warm Russians. Personally I am very much interested in blonde and tall woman so I am ready to pay a bit more for a Russian. That's why I find mylself in the Russian Striptease Club in Pattaya. I have never been with a Latin American but I know I am not always into Africans and mixed blood. Thirdly asians are great but a woman 35 years old and looks like 15 years old isn't something that I prefer so my choice is clear. But I know I will go to Brasil or possibly Argentina just for smelling the air. And also I know that this FKK is something to me because I am feeling like it is builded and designed for me. Easy to enter-legal-safe and regular. Frankfurt is also on my next destinations list but getting visa is another trouble for me. Briefly my country list will be smt like that Germany-Thailand-Russia-Ukraine-Chech Republic-Hungary-Italy-France-Azerbaijan.
Regards.[/QUOTE]Iceberg27, thank you for your opinion / informations. Just like you, I am more into white bonde girls. I live in South East Asia, so in my country I've done so may girls (the Thai type girls). While here I can P4p and get imported girls (ex USSR, Thai, South America like Columbia, China) , the selection is very limited and the quality has declined over these years.
I ve experienced the FKK in Germany, and really like the concept that I would never get in my country. One day I will go back to explore Germany.
About Russia, as you know, how difficult and expensive is to get women? What kind of service you used (private, bordell, spa or semi pro like mamba)? I want to go there (if thats worthed) , Untill now I don't have coureage to travel alone to Russia.
[QUOTE=Hbengkok; 1416672]Iceberg27, thank you for your opinion / informations. Just like you, I am more into white bonde girls. I live in South East Asia, so in my country I've done so may girls (the Thai type girls). While here I can P4p and get imported girls (ex USSR, Thai, South America like Columbia, China) , the selection is very limited and the quality has declined over these years.
I ve experienced the FKK in Germany, and really like the concept that I would never get in my country. One day I will go back to explore Germany.
About Russia, as you know, how difficult and expensive is to get women? What kind of service you used (private, bordell, spa or semi pro like mamba)? I want to go there (if thats worthed) , Untill now I don't have coureage to travel alone to Russia.[/QUOTE]For Russia. Thanks for the question. Russia really has a special place in my heart. I don't look at the mongering issue as a the most apple that you can get for your money. I view this as a great way to be around the world for a pleasurefull and exciting hobby. Unless most of us hadn't been and saw these countries. I have been in St. Petersburg and Moscow. Especially St is a hot tourist spot it's never a problem to be there. Things are really exagerating there. But I must tell you that I live in Istanbul. If you are so naive and unexperienced or love to take unnecessary risks you can be in trouble there. But if you are following some simple rules it's totally safe. How can it's not be? Only one bad news will scare millions of tourist so they don't want to loose such an economical income. But for your safety I advice to read these two posts. One is experienced by me but I believe it can happen in anywhere if you are fool and drunk enough to put your wallet into your hippack at night.
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And secondly these. It's a real scary movie.
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If we are talking about Moscow. It's a bit different but I was also worried before I go there but I think it was also meaningless to be. Becuase it's another hot touristic spot. If you stay in a decent hotel. If you don't go to a Toscha tour by yourself you are again safe. People don't want to get in trouble with police in Russia so they wouldn't be dangerous for you. The biggest problem in Moscow is finding addresses. But it's all packed. Again you don't need to put a visit to Suburban. Totally unnecessary. Making P4P in Moscow is one of the biggest foolnesses in the world because it's extremely expensive. When you are there your dick will get hard and your brain gets soft so you will pay high amounts for normal girls. Not necessary but if you have a mean look it's a great place for freebie scene. It's always possible to score there because there are many women who hasnt got a date since many years. So I think Moscow is a worth to try once in a lifetime. Saint Petersburg has many salloons you can get very good P4P rates that s very compettive in all over the world but after a week you will get bored there. Finally after visiting both if you ask me I will definitely choose Moscow. Just my opinions. BR
[QUOTE=Cucumber; 1415765]I am a big fan of large labia, bulging mounds of venus and the like. The labia don't necessarily have to be very long, but thick, wrinkly, meaty. Of course DATY is a central part of sex for me. (If I wrote here what I think should be done to the plastic surgeons who carry out labiaplasty I would probably be banned from the forum.) My question is, which ethnic / racial groups of women in the world have the largest labia? Even if your feedback is purely anecdotal, I would be extremely grateful (e. G.". I once slept with a woman from. Who had beautiful large labia.").
Thanks,
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