There always been opponents to prostitution or any kind of sex work. This is nothing new. Besides it's only 16 MPs (or claimed to be by the media) that are calling for it. Not sure if it's all 16 MPs that want to ban prostitution.
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There always been opponents to prostitution or any kind of sex work. This is nothing new. Besides it's only 16 MPs (or claimed to be by the media) that are calling for it. Not sure if it's all 16 MPs that want to ban prostitution.
[QUOTE=Clodius1;2452515]I hope that you are right and that ice bears can return to DE FKK. For me, I enjoy visiting DE for many reasons. I like the people there, the excellent food, the safe streets etc. But if FKK is closed for good, I will have to chase after die madchen elsewhere, Holland, Wien, Swiss etc.[/QUOTE]Yes. There are Thai, Indian, Italian, and Turkish (Kurd) restaurants in Germany. I asked the owner of an Indian restaurant in Hamburg about the northern German people. He said "cool". He had been in Hamburg for 20 years and had no German friends. He did not mention crime or street traffic.
Let me name a few of, ehmm, his well advertised attributes: Tiny Hands, Egotistical, Arrogant, Deflectionist, Delusional, Issues recognizing truth from delusion, pays lots of money for prostitutes, Superiority Complex, crap writer and speaker of the English language, offensive, denies reality, thinks everyone loves him, continually insults the lady who openly criticized him. And I'm sure I've missed some. I was sure there could only be one. Then we elected Trump president.
When Trump claims to take chloroquine for breakfast, french doctors except one decided chloroquine have no real efficiency to cure from virus but can kill many from heart attack, maybe could help US, when from ex communist Slovenia Melania Knaus seems much more clever than him, when a model can be more clever than most powerful country president. Reasons to worry about crazy. US should be far over 100 thousand deaths, even mostly Afro Americabns, before elections.
Most of the travellers including me to africa are taking this medicine for decades without any side effects, all the Indian medical staff is taking it, widely used in south Korea, China and all in France, just it is a cheap medicine no interest for the health industry in collusion with some politics to push that solution.
[QUOTE=Chongmal;2452793]Then we elected Trump president.[/QUOTE]Please remove "me" from that "we". I may be crazy, but I'm not stupid! As another poster on this site noted, why doesn't he go ahead and double his dosage of the chloroquine? After all. What's he got to lose? Ha!
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2452796]When Trump claims to take chloroquine for breakfast, french doctors except one decided chloroquine have no real efficiency to cure from virus but can kill many from heart attack, maybe could help US, when from ex communist Slovenia Melania Knaus seems much more clever than him, when a model can be more clever than most powerful country president. Reasons to worry about crazy. US should be far over 100 thousand deaths, even mostly Afro Americabns, before elections.
Most of the travellers including me to africa are taking this medicine for decades without any side effects, all the Indian medical staff is taking it, widely used in south Korea, China and all in France, just it is a cheap medicine no interest for the health industry in collusion with some politics to push that solution.[/QUOTE]OK, there is absolutely NO evidence that the use of Chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine for Covid-19 is safe and effective. This is because the presence of viruses or other infections can change the side effects of a drug. This editorial explains it very well: [URL]https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1432.long[/URL] . '. wide use of hydroxychloroquine will expose some patients to rare but potentially fatal harms, including serious cutaneous adverse reactions, fulminant hepatic failure, and ventricular arrhythmias (especially when prescribed with azithromycin) 27; overdose is hazardous and difficult to treat.'
[QUOTE=Arnold15;2451902]First, we talk about REGISTERED deaths. Sweden (and Belgium) are good on identifying the real death reason.
Different countries count Corona-deaths in different ways.
In other countries, deaths by Corona are obviously underestimated.
And here is the real reason to many deaths in Stockholm.
Second, most deaths in Stockholm are people from poor immigration ghettos, where people do not understand Swedish and have not been able to assimilate information about Corona.
On the other hand, immunity in Stockholm is now very high - well prepared for "the second wave".[/QUOTE]What do you mean by "very high"? Any studies available, or just a "guess"? In any case you need up to 70% herd immunity, I doubt you will have that.
And trying to put the high death rates in Sweden on poor immigrants would be laughable, if not very sad, when even locally produced data show that it was essentially in care homes. And elderly people left exposed to wide virus circulation.
Swedes don't ALWAYS get it right, in spite of what some of them would like to believe. They even messed up the way they manage (d) immigration, and now, compared to their neighbours, Danmark, Finland, Norway, they look terribly bad, to the point that they will be excluded form the free tracel Scandinavian bubble. So you will continue frolicking in Stockholm's parks, but won't be allowed anywhere else during the summer!
Good luck my friend!
But we have deaths, not from virus, but killed by chloroquine with heart attack. Real facts, maybe French have more fragile heart than others. I won t take with my intense sports with heart in red zone for hours, sometimes under more than 35 Celsius degrees, in Bonette, Agnel, Izoard.
A bit like Viagra, be careful when You are not doctor, some medicine can kill.
[QUOTE=Dreams;2452837]What do you mean by "very high"? Any studies available, or just a "guess"? In any case you need up to 70% herd immunity, I doubt you will have that.
And trying to put the high death rates in Sweden on poor immigrants would be laughable, if not very sad, when even locally produced data show that it was essentially in care homes. And elderly people left exposed to wide virus circulation.
Swedes don't ALWAYS get it right, in spite of what some of them would like to believe. They even messed up the way they manage (d) immigration, and now, compared to their neighbours, Danmark, Finland, Norway, they look terribly bad, to the point that they will be excluded form the free tracel Scandinavian bubble. So you will continue frolicking in Stockholm's parks, but won't be allowed anywhere else during the summer!
Good luck my friend![/QUOTE]I've noticed that you got a inferiority complex going on but excess deaths shows that countries like Spain and Italy aren't even close to report the correct number of Covid-19 related deaths. Unlike Sweden and Belgium. In country after country the immigrant communities are showing a higher degree of mortality, that's a fact. Well, the point is that Swedish economy is doing much better than our neighbors. Too many countries have butchered their economies, 40 million newly unemployed in the US and the Mediterranean countries are now back begging EU and the North for more money. They've never been able to take care of themselves, like big ass children.
Sweden got it right as usual, better economy and statistics than Spain, Italy, Belgium, France and the UK despite not having any lockdown and the fact that many of those countries are grossly underreporting the number of deaths.
Swedes could easily go to Portugal if they wanted to, you should stop hating and start reading the news.
[URL]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/travel/articles/1284355/Portugal-holidays-2020-coronavirus-travel-advice-fco-news-latest-algarve-Azores-Madeira/amp[/URL]
[QUOTE=Dreams;2452837]What do you mean by "very high"? Any studies available, or just a "guess"? In any case you need up to 70% herd immunity, I doubt you will have that.
[/QUOTE]Salaam Dreams and Arnold. The [B]herd immunity threshold[/B] for coronavirus is generally quoted as 60%. But a recent model from Swedish and UK scientists found it could be just 43%. There's a lot of doubt. Wikipedia says 29 - 74%.
I guess in Stockholm they have 20-30% infected by now. It will be interesting to see what effect that has on the R0 number, and if Sweden will end up better than its locked-down neighbors.
[QUOTE=RockyV;2452834]OK, there is absolutely NO evidence that the use of Chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine for Covid-19 is safe and effective. This is because the presence of viruses or other infections can change the side effects of a drug. This editorial explains it very well: [URL]https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1432.long[/URL] . '. wide use of hydroxychloroquine will expose some patients to rare but potentially fatal harms, including serious cutaneous adverse reactions, fulminant hepatic failure, and ventricular arrhythmias (especially when prescribed with azithromycin) 27; overdose is hazardous and difficult to treat.'[/QUOTE]In France, chloroquine is not considered efficient versus covid, and many health accidents after taking. Quite dangerous if taken like a bonbon.
[QUOTE=Dreams;2452837]What do you mean by "very high"? Any studies available, or just a "guess"? In any case you need up to 70% herd immunity, I doubt you will have that.
And trying to put the high death rates in Sweden on poor immigrants would be laughable, if not very sad, when even locally produced data show that it was essentially in care homes. And elderly people left exposed to wide virus circulation.
Swedes don't ALWAYS get it right, in spite of what some of them would like to believe. They even messed up the way they manage (d) immigration, and now, compared to their neighbours, Danmark, Finland, Norway, they look terribly bad, to the point that they will be excluded form the free tracel Scandinavian bubble. So you will continue frolicking in Stockholm's parks, but won't be allowed anywhere else during the summer!
Good luck my friend![/QUOTE]Yes, with no confined, old people are in danger in Stockholm, with many deaths, but in France, 90% deaths are more than 65 yo. No proof, recovering give immunity, according to French doctors and very average reliability for tests because depend when you are tested about catching, if you are not infected yet.
[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2452932]Salaam Dreams and Arnold. The [B]herd immunity threshold[/B] for coronavirus is generally quoted as 60%. But a recent model from Swedish and UK scientists found it could be just 43%. There's a lot of doubt. Wikipedia says 29 - 74%.
I guess in Stockholm they have 20-30% infected by now. It will be interesting to see what effect that has on the R0 number, and if Sweden will end up better than its locked-down neighbors.[/QUOTE]Relation of deaths to # of inhabitants in Sweden is 3 x as high as in Germany. Trending worse.
No heard immunity around the corner there as well. Former forecasts of high percentages of infections (30%) for Stockholm have been reduced to around 7% max.
RN.
In France, chloroquine is not considered efficient versus covid, and many health accidents after taking. Quite dangerous if taken like a bonbon.
For how many years we are taking it to fight malaria, personally I took it at least 10 times, all the India medical staff are taking it, widely used in China and Korea, have a look at the notice of aspirin not sure you will ever take one.
[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2452932]Salaam Dreams and Arnold. The [B]herd immunity threshold[/B] for coronavirus is generally quoted as 60%. But a recent model from Swedish and UK scientists found it could be just 43%. There's a lot of doubt. Wikipedia says 29 - 74%.[/QUOTE]Since we are all speculating around here I'll throw in my guess here as well. I think herd immunity threshold depends on where you live. In a rural, more remote area, the threshold can be much lower than in a big city where you mix with hundreds different people every day (public transit, large office buildings, shopping malls, etc).
So far all studies about general population rate of infection have found that less than 10% people were infected so far, most were quoting 5-7% (Sweden, France, Germany, Spain, Italy, US, Switzerland). That includes studies done specifically in areas where there were many reported infections.