Guadalajara

Holly crap, I joined this forum to see if I can get an upgrade in my escort list, I haven't read all the posts yet, but for the last couple of them all I can infer is people fighting over where to find more girls! Come on guys this is a forum not an arena. And please for the guy who said that the stupid mexicans like me are inflating the chicas market, then you should not look further than Parque morelos and the Zona gigantes area because theres the place to find chicas ranging 50 to 500 pesos! I'm use to pay for a good and fresh 100 pounder girl at a nice estetica 1000 to 1200 pesos, not the prettiest ones. If I want something better and prettier kinda a tapatia fresa I'll pay more than that, if I want a real doll with a pretty face then theres some Divas in town and the fare goes up to 2000-2500, and yes there are girls that are much more expensive than that, I'm sorry in this life everything has a price, and in which world do you guys live that you think you are going to find a 10 for 500 pesos! I know that everybody has different tastes but it shouldn't be a huge difference when some one rates a girl, 1 to 10 is not that hard!

If this forum is mostly Americans visiting GDL then ya'll should be able to pay 100-120 usd for a nice girl.

And please don't misunderstand me I know how much a nice chica is worth and I don't like to give away my money, I've sent back more chicas than you can imagine and even without paying the "Taxi" fare, if they are offering me something then they gotta stick to it. Its very usual for some people to pay 900-1200 pesos for something that its worth 500 or less but it seems when the Testosterone is kicking nobody says NO!

I think I've rejected about 85% percent of the girls that I've been sent in the past 5 years, and I know thats a lot of money wasted in Motels but I personally like to score with good looking girls and make my money worth every cent. Now I've a list of a really few girls that I would say are worth what they charge, and I'm trying to expand that list by joining this forum.

I hope I didn't offend anybody with my post, feel free to PM me or ask me about chicas and I would glady give you pointers in this beautifull GDL!

Saludos

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Ken Tucky, at first I had about the same opinion as you did about Mou, but after re-reading his post, I think I see where he's coming from. If you're mongering in Guadalajara during daytime, there's no excuse. If you've done your research on this board and maybe the yellow pages, you should have a list of esteticas and know the prices. You show the taxi driver the name and the address and he takes you there.

But Mou has been trying to monger after 10:00 PM. I've been to Guadalajara maybe 20 times (admittedly not always mongering), and until your groundbreaking research wasn't aware that there are cost effective, good quality late night options. I confined myself to the esteticas because I didn't want to blow two or three hundred dollars getting laid at a high-end strip club and wasn't satisfied with the quality at the lower end clubs. And I didn't want to wake up tired and with a hangover the next day.

Mou, I'd suggest you read the thread. Pay attention to Ken Tucky's posts. He's probably a little short with you because he's already answered your questions in his posts.

Double Dong,

You don't have to worry about using any code language. I've never gone into a Mexican massage parlor looking for a hand job, but I'd guess you'd pay $20 to $50 for the massage and $10 to $30 tip for the hand job. Odds are someone will speak English at the estetica, especially the better ones, and you can get their numbers from yellow pages and call ahead to make sure if you want. Or, print this out, take it to the estetica, and point to the appropriate phrase.

Quiero una hora. (I want an hour)

Quiero media hora (I want half an hour.)

No quiero sexo. Solo quiero un masaje. (I don't want sex. I only want a massage.)

Cuanto cuesta? Escribalo aqui. (How much does it cost? Write it here.)

Si la chica me mastubara, cuanto mas costaria? Escribalo aqui. (If the woman masturbates me, how much more would it cost? Write it here.)

Senorita, cuanto cobrarias por masturbarme? Esribalo aqui. (Miss, how much would you charge to masturbate me? Write it here.)

And your question about when to pay -- it's normally up front for the complete service, including sex. But given that you just want a massage with hand job, you might try paying for the massage and then negotiating a tip with the woman for the hand job.

Seems there are some real idiots here that need to take a chill pill!

We are brother pooners that need to get along, not fight each other.

Wow! I can only hope that the rest of Mexico is as friendly as you have been.

When I say I speak zero spanish I mean I speak zero spanish. Try egtting around in a city where yoo do not speak the native tounge and see how far you get. Now try that in a foreign country. I live in Detroit and have learned to get around some of the toughest parts of the city. I consider myself pretty good at reading people know all of the spots in the city to get laid. I am no rookie at this.

I guess maybe next time I will just take a sign with me that says 'LOOKING FOR PUSSY" and stand in downtown Guadalajara until either a chic comes along or I get dragged away by the police. What are the jails like in Mexico? Do I get a phone call? If I do, can I make international calls? How much is bond? Do they accept credit cards? How long before I see a judge? There are judges right?

Thanks for the tips....errrrrr I mean thanks for advice......errr I mean thanks for nothing.

[QUOTE=Mou7189]Wow! I can only hope that the rest of Mexico is as friendly as you have been.

When I say I speak zero spanish I mean I speak zero spanish. Try egtting around in a city where yoo do not speak the native tounge and see how far you get. Now try that in a foreign country. I live in Detroit and have learned to get around some of the toughest parts of the city. I consider myself pretty good at reading people know all of the spots in the city to get laid. I am no rookie at this.

I guess maybe next time I will just take a sign with me that says 'LOOKING FOR PUSSY" and stand in downtown Guadalajara until either a chic comes along or I get dragged away by the police. What are the jails like in Mexico? Do I get a phone call? If I do, can I make international calls? How much is bond? Do they accept credit cards? How long before I see a judge? There are judges right?

Thanks for the tips....errrrrr I mean thanks for advice......errr I mean thanks for nothing.[/QUOTE]Hey Mou. Whats up. I live in GDL and can help you out when you come here. Is there any way to contact you other than this medium? Due to my job. Which I believe is in the same industry as yours. It has to be private. I'm assuming you are either a Sales Manager or engineer in the Electronic industry here. I work with managers for my accounts that come and visit the city and know exactly what you mean when you say you have to go to dinners that you don't want to. Etc. Etc. Let me know if you got a way to contact you Privately. I can help you out when you come this way.

[quote=anonimo gdl] and please for the guy who said that the stupid mexicans like me are inflating the chicas market[/quote]
sorry anonimo, i didn't intend to insult you or your paisanos. on this web site, i've been called a stupid gringo and accused of driving up the price of pussy several times. a few examples --

$400 for 5 hours with an argentine diva in d.f. i'd say she was a girlfriend experience except that she treated me much better than my girlfriend -- even cleaning the puke off my face (i was drunk and got sick) before she gave me a blow job.

$350 for toda la noche with drop dead, beautiful, model-looking colombianas from a brothel in panama

$300 to pay for brain surgery for a hooker in colombia. (well, o.k., maybe i really am a stupid gringo.)

in every instance, except the brain surgery, i thought the money was well spent, and a lot cheaper than what i'd pay in the u.s. there are people here, though, who believe inflation in the price of poontang is solely because sex tourists and foreign businessmen are driving up the price. but that's not the case at all. as you know, there are a lot more wealthy, free-spending mexicans in guadalajara than estadounidenses, japanese, etc. some of these people can drop $1000 or $2000 in a gentlemen's club or $300 or $400 on a hooker and never miss it. and i don't really think they're stupid. i think $350 spent on a hooker makes a lot more sense than, say $5000 spent on a rolex watch. my point was, it's not the gringos that determine the price of pussy in mexico (or panama or colombia), it's the mexicans (and panamanians, colombians, etc.).

[quote=mou7189]
when i say i speak zero spanish i mean i speak zero spanish. try egtting around in a city where yoo do not speak the native tounge and see how far you get. [/quote]
mou, anybody who gets into town at 10:00 pm and leaves at 6:00 am is going to have it tough. but you're not going to have that problem next time. again, just read the thread, you'll find addresses and phone numbers here for some places, and you can always use the yellow pages when you get here. look under "esteticas masculinas" for the massage parlors and "clubes nocturnos" for the strip clubs. you'll know the prices from looking at the thread so you shouldn't get screwed. i've been to places before where nobody spoke english and i didn't speak the local language, and still had a good time. true, it's better and easier when you can speak the language, but you'll still do fine. write the name, address and phone number of the place where you want to go on a piece of paper and give it to the taxi driver. have a pen and paper handy to negotiate price in case you're talking to someone who doesn't speak english.

[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] might be a good place to get your feet wet. it's more expensive than ken tucky's picks, but clean, consistent, they won't screw you, and english is spoken. i'll be in town part of the 24th and the 25th and might be able to get away for a few hours. so now you've got two potential guides, but you'll need to sign up and pay $19.95 to isg so you can get pm's and we can get your contact info.

[quote=double dong]i speak fluent spanish and i've been living in mexico for a few years now [/quote]
double dong, sorry, i got you confused with mou in previous post -- normally i wouldn't try to give spanish and culture lessons to someone who knows both better than me.

trip has been bumped up and i will be in guadalajara for only one evening, the 16th of this month. as usual, i probably will not have much time.

to galaxxy.....your assumptions are close. i am a sales manager but for a japanese automotive supplier. i arrive at noon and by the time my meetings are done and i get back to the hotel (i chose the holiday inn in downtown) it probably will be 7pm. not sure how i will get out of dinner but i will figure out a way. so if anybody want to join me for a beer or two and chase the pussy around, meet me in the lobby at 7:30pm of the holiday inn on juarez. i should not be that hard to find as i will be one of the only gringo's there by themselves wearing wranglers.

i chose downtown versus the holiday inn select as i want places within walking distance. i also like the reports of the ladies on the streets of independencia. i will start there. i am not sure i want to try having one sent to my room without knowing what they look like. i am always so horney that by the time they get there no matter how fat, ugly or fat and ugly they are i always let them in. i have printed out maps and previous posts so i will have a report next week for all. worst case i will find my way to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url].

[QUOTE=Tiny 12]

$400 for 5 hours with an Argentine diva in D.F. I'd say she was a girlfriend experience except that she treated me much better than my girlfriend -- even cleaning the puke off my face (I was drunk and got sick) before she gave me a blow job.


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Ah, Ayelén. Those were the days.

Too bad she can't enter Mexico now.

Henry, Good to hear from you, you haven't been posting recently.

Yes, Mexico misses Ayelen, and I'm sure Ayelen misses Mexico. The last I heard she was in Buenos Aires, earning about 30% of what she was making in Mexico. I think she charges 200 Argentine pesos for an hour, or about US$60.

This is a bit off-topic but do you guys have any idea if you can buy Cialis etc. from the farmacies (such as Farmacias Guadalajara) in Mexico without a prescription? A friend back home claims that you can and he's telling me to bring him some but before going to the farmacy to embarass myself I'd like to know what's the deal?

Tiny 12 I wasnt really offended its really hard to offend a Mexican I was just being dramatic, we don't belive in being politically correct here. Double Dong you can buy viagra, Cialis, Xanax, Diazepam, syringes etc from any drugstore without prescription, just walk into the store and ask for a pack of cialis, and thats it.

But I would hesitate about going to Farmacias GDL, they belong to a fellow highschool buddy and his family and they are really into the Opus Dei and they don't sell condoms and other birth control methods, believe it or not this shit still happens in 2008!

[quote=mou7189] worst case i will find my way to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url].[/quote]

suggest you call ahead and make sure they'll be open. i suspect they'd close around 9:00 or 10:00 pm, but really don't know.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12]Henry, Good to hear from you, you haven't been posting recently.

Yes, Mexico misses Ayelen, and I'm sure Ayelen misses Mexico. The last I heard she was in Buenos Aires, earning about 30% of what she was making in Mexico. I think she charges 200 Argentine pesos for an hour, or about US$60.[/QUOTE]

Well, I'm semiretired from this hobby.

Part of the reason is the high prices you mention.

Just returned from my trip to GDL and have a different view on the place now. In the past, my mongering has beeb limited to opening the yellow pages and just shotgunning the places that offer messages until I get someone who speaks English. Every time I have been disappointed with the girl that arrived and always paid 1500 PESO for the girl and had to tip the guy with her as well. I should have turned them away but I wanted a piece of ass and they were there so I always went for it. This time, I arrived earlier than I had in the past. I checked into the Holiday Inn on Juarez arounf 5:30PM istead of the usual 10:00PM. This worked out great! After traveling all day I needed a nice walk. I had printed out a ton of the posts on this site and taken them with me for reference. On the way to the hotel I saw the Mission Carlton and remembered seeing a post that ssaid there was some action right acrossed the street. So after checking in and changing into some clothes that would allow me to blend in a bit, I headed out for a little walk. I found the Med Eseticas and walked in. It was just like previous posts have indicated. I speak ZERO spanish and there was only one grl who spoke very little english but she knew what I was there for. They put me on a couch and the girls paraded by one by one. I chose Katia. Probably in here early 20's and small. Cost was 480 PESO, I actually gaver her 500 and was so pleased with the price I totally forgot to ask for change. Tatia spoke ZERO english so we had trouble communicating. I guess I should have known that she knew what I was there for. When we went into our room she kept motioning her hand toward her mouth and saying something. All I could tell was that it was a question. Now my past at "massage" parlors in the north is that they ALWAYS upsell. They get you in the room and if want this it is extra and if you want that it is extra. I just assumed that what she was motioning for was if I wanted her to suck my cock. I did the same motion she did only with a more detail. My hand was cupped more and when my hand approaced my mouth I put my tounge in my cheeck. She got a good laugh out that one and then I realized what she was asking if I wanted something to drink, which I accpeted.

Anyway, when we got down to business she sucked my cock for a bit and then we proceeded to have at it. She was very willing and I fucked her in several positions. Total time I spent with her was probably around 20 minutes and TOTAL COST. 500 PESO.

No GFE experience from her but I really don't understand why anyone would want GFE. I mean there is a reason I don't a GF. I can't stand to listen to them. All I want is a piece of ass. I could care less what the conversation is.

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I was in a new restaurant and club this weekend, De Santos, that might be interesting if you're into nonpros and know the language. It's in Zapopan on Avenida Patria close to Acueducto. Upstairs there's a bar that seems to attract a younger crowd that might be O.K. if you're Coahuila's age. For people who are a little older and know the language, the first floor looked more promising. We had a booth right next to the first floor bar. I was eating dinner with a group so not looking but did have a chance to observe. During the four hours I was there, I noticed three young, attractive women, around 22-30, that were taken out by older guys, around 40 to 50. The food and the music were good and there was lots and lots of eye candy.