American Politics

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2658677]Applying your masters in finance, if your best friend was manufacturing a consumer product and was offered a free one-time-only commercial spot on the highest rated Fox News Channel program, either The Five or Tucker Carlson or on the lowest rated regular network news hour, CBS Evening News, which offer would you advise him to snap up in a heartbeat?[/QUOTE]Simple. You go on the highest rated network with the highest audience. Fox has more viewers than any other news network so more customers. Hence the Super Bowls ads are more expensive regardless of which network broadcasts it as the audience is huge.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2658677]Applying your masters in finance, if your best friend was manufacturing a consumer product and was offered a free one-time-only commercial spot on the highest rated Fox News Channel program, either The Five or Tucker Carlson or on the lowest rated regular network news hour, CBS Evening News, which offer would you advise him to snap up in a heartbeat?[/QUOTE]I wonder, too, how he'll answer this post. I think I know what he'll say because he's repeated his illogical "logic" ad infinitum. But for now, I'll just wait and see.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy;2658861]Simple. You go on the highest rated network with the highest audience. Fox has more viewers than any other news network so more customers. Hence the Super Bowls ads are more expensive regardless of which network broadcasts it as the audience is huge.[/QUOTE]CBS evening news gets about 5 MM viewers per night in Q4 2021. "The CBS Evening News with Norah O'Donnell averaged 5.08 million total viewers and 881,000 adults 25-54 in Q4. " [URL]https://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/q4-2021-evening-news-ratings-abc-world-news-tonight-continues-to-beat-competition/496936/[/URL].

In comparison. FUX "News" Tucker "Nobody in their right mind should believe anything I say" Carlson's show averaged about 3 million viewers. "Fox News Channel had the five most-watched shows in all of cable news for the week ending August 1, with Tucker Carlson Tonight again being the top-rated show overall, with an average total audience of 2. 9 million viewers. " [URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjoyella/2021/08/03/fox-news-sweeps-weeks-top-five-most-watched-shows-in-cable-news/?sh=ad5eef94cd6e[/URL].

So, the FUX "News" guy had 3 million viewers and CBS News had 5 million viewers, yet the Cali guy says "[B]Fox has more viewers than any other news network[/B]".

Only in fascist-land is 3 million higher than 5 million.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2658708]Great real news for a change!

Yes, as I have always said, as long as it is legal and promotes more congressional seats and presidential victories for the one Party that has produced and presided over every major economic recovery, expansion, market gains and historic jobs creation and none of the historic Crashes and Jobs Destruction of the past 100 years, the Democratic Party, rather than promoting more of those for the one Party that has produced and presided over the exact opposite results, the Republican Party, I'm all for it. Otherwise, I'm against it.[/QUOTE]Honestly, I'm not sure what makes you happy about this.

Gerrymandering is disgusting and immoral. It's designed to suppress the will of people, which is why it's illegal in most, if not all world democracies. Democrats can't claim moral superiority if they use the same revolting tool of political chicanery as their opponents.

Basically, you're saying it's OK to do shitty things as long as it suits "the good guys".

Nah, not with you on this one.

On an unrelated note, it seems Monsieur de Sade has been on the roll lately quoting the "fake news" NYT left and right. Good for him.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2658800]"Trump will never go to jail".

That's a bold prediction. Let's consider a few of your safety nets in making that bold prediction:

Trump is a lifelong professional criminal who just recently bribed his former Chief of Staff, Mark Meadows, to suddenly change his mind about cooperating with the 1/6 Investigation to the tune of $1 Million of other people's money given to his non-profit. That's something like 100 times more than Trump ever donated to other non-profits.

Trump can and will try to bribe witnesses, judges, jurors, everybody, with other people's money. It only takes one.

Trump can use other people's money to delay his trials and sentencing well beyond his expected lifespan.

Any one of the 74 million or rather 37 million loons who followed his instructions to vote for him twice in 2020 could weasel his or her way onto the jury. If so, game over.

Trump would be embraced with open arms in Russia, China, North Korea, with the Taliban and any number of America's adversaries he kissed ass for to gain sanctuary from prosecution or sentencing.

Now, if the bet is whether or not Trump committed serious crimes regardless whether or not he defies all historical precedent and spends time behind bars, Trump has already admitted to that. You could simply start with his admission that he tore up his written documents during his so-called presidency. You know, the ones his staff had to scotch tape together, some of which are now being reviewed by the 1/6 Commission?

Yeah, that violated The Presidential Records Act, which is a Federal Crime, a Felony.[/QUOTE]This is a very concise summation of the reasons why Trump will probably not spend a day behind the bars in our corrupt, corrupt country. Unfortunately, you're right, it's pretty safe on the part of Canada to make that bet (aside from the fact it would be illegal and unenforceable anyway). In fact, Canada et al have never even tried to claim Trump's innocence; they're just cynically reveling in the fact that it would be an almost impossible task to bring him to justice.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2658970]Honestly, I'm not sure what makes you happy about this.

Gerrymandering is disgusting and immoral. It's designed to suppress the will of people, which is why it's illegal in most, if not all world democracies. Democrats can't claim moral superiority if they use the same revolting tool of political chicanery as their opponents.

Basically, you're saying it's OK to do shitty things as long as it suits "the good guys".

Nah, not with you on this one.

On an unrelated note, it seems Monsieur de Sade has been on the roll lately quoting the "fake news" NYT left and right. Good for him.

This is a very concise summation of the reasons why Trump will probably not spend a day behind the bars in our corrupt, corrupt country. Unfortunately, you're right, it's pretty safe on the part of Canada to make that bet (aside from the fact it would be illegal and unenforceable anyway). In fact, Canada et al have never even tried to claim Trump's innocence; they're just cynically reveling in the fact that it would be an almost impossible task to bring him to justice.[/QUOTE]I think the gerrymandering comment was tongue-in-cheek. At least that is the way I interpreted it.

But the OTTIFG (one-term, twice-impeached former guy) said in January that if the fascists couldn't gerrymander, they'd never win another election. That is one of the reasons that they're against the voting rights act. That and wanting to take the USA back to the 1850's when it was legal to own people and the only folks who could vote were white, male property owners.

But you are right in saying the the OOTIFG or his criminal kids will never spend a day behind bars. He even said as much when he made his infamous "Times Square" (or was it 5th Avenue) comment. If the OTTIFG and his brood were ever deposed or put on trial, they'd all plead the 5th. And we all know what the OTTIFG said about that.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2658970] Gerrymandering is disgusting and immoral. It's designed to suppress the will of people, which is why it's illegal in most, if not all world democracies. Democrats can't claim moral superiority if they use the same revolting tool of political chicanery as their opponents.

Basically, you're saying it's OK to do shitty things as long as it suits "the good guys".[/QUOTE]Good for you, Xpartan. I could not agree more. Gerrymandering is not right no matter which party is drawing up the maps or for whatever the stated higher purpose. The ends do not justify the means. Maybe if we could all cut out the hypocrisy, the bull crap, and agree on this fundamental principal, we might find a way to solve a few of the nation's real problems. But what is the chance of that happening? Zero.

I am not looking to single out the Dems alone on this issue, but currently they have the power in New York State. So, have you seen Nadler's new gerrymandered district that the new Governor will soon sign into law? It's a work of art. No wonder Americans have a 21% favorable opinion of Congress.

[URL]https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-yorks-democratic-jerrymander-jerry-nadler-district-map-gerrymander-11643757160[/URL]

[URL]https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/congressional_job_approval-903.html[/URL]#!

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2658649]I am just passing on news. If the news is about the one-term, twice-impeached former guy, so be it.

The only reason you fascists comment on it and on Biden is because you are running away from January 6th as fast as your little fascist legs can carry you.[/QUOTE]There is nothing to run away from Jan 6. Just another protest that was less violent than a BLM protest. You keep talking about January 6 like it hurt the American people but it is a fact Biden inflation is hurting Americans more than January 6 ever did.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2658970]Honestly, I'm not sure what makes you happy about this.

Gerrymandering is disgusting and immoral. It's designed to suppress the will of people, which is why it's illegal in most, if not all world democracies. Democrats can't claim moral superiority if they use the same revolting tool of political chicanery as their opponents.

Basically, you're saying it's OK to do shitty things as long as it suits "the good guys".

Nah, not with you on this one.

On an unrelated note, it seems Monsieur de Sade has been on the roll lately quoting the "fake news" NYT left and right. Good for him..[/QUOTE]Most of us still live in USA where someone is innocent until proven guilty. Just because you hate America doesn't give you the right to change the laws.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2658651]You claim to have great reading comprehension. Where, in the three (that's 3, meaning more than 2 and less than 4) points the OP posted did he ever mention the word news. Yet here you are mentioning "news"?

Comprehension is fundamental and you [B]do not have it[/B].[/QUOTE]Cali Guy is right. Companies pay more for advertising on higher rated networks. Don't try to confuse the issue with nonsense.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2658903]CBS evening news gets about 5 MM viewers per night in Q4 2021. "The CBS Evening News with Norah O'Donnell averaged 5.08 million total viewers and 881,000 adults 25-54 in Q4. " [URL]https://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/q4-2021-evening-news-ratings-abc-world-news-tonight-continues-to-beat-competition/496936/[/URL].

In comparison. FUX "News" Tucker "Nobody in their right mind should believe anything I say" Carlson's show averaged about 3 million viewers. "Fox News Channel had the five most-watched shows in all of cable news for the week ending August 1, with Tucker Carlson Tonight again being the top-rated show overall, with an average total audience of 2. 9 million viewers. " [URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjoyella/2021/08/03/fox-news-sweeps-weeks-top-five-most-watched-shows-in-cable-news/?sh=ad5eef94cd6e[/URL].

So, the FUX "News" guy had 3 million viewers and CBS News had 5 million viewers, yet the Cali guy says "[B]Fox has more viewers than any other news network[/B]".

Only in fascist-land is 3 million higher than 5 million.[/QUOTE]So.

Is it the case that FUX news is in 4th place, behind not just CBS, but also NBC and ABC netwok news?

I don't think that NBC and ABC would be short 2 million viewers from CBS's 5 million pairs of eyes.

It seems like FUX fake news could be trailing in fourth.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2658970]This is a very concise summation of the reasons why Trump will probably not spend a day behind the bars in our corrupt, corrupt country. Unfortunately, you're right, it's pretty safe on the part of Canada to make that bet (aside from the fact it would be illegal and unenforceable anyway). In fact, Canada et al have never even tried to claim Trump's innocence; they're just cynically reveling in the fact that it would be an almost impossible task to bring him to justice.[/QUOTE]I don't think TrumpShit is going to skate away from the bitter taste of justice.

A man his age in the United States has a life expectancy of around ten years.

Now the man lies about how healthy he really is, and his diet would seem to drive towards early heart disease.

But there are at least a half-dozen different jurisdictions all waiting and eager to deliver justice to The Donald.

States are competing against states (Georgia, Wisconsin, Arizona, Pennsylvania? Potentially more). The January 6th committee will get one or more federal courts involved. And the South District of New York is ready to pounce!.

They each now have piles of compelling evidence.

And Trump will not succeed in slow-walking beyond 18 to 24 months against any judge eager to escort and move the court he or she controls along to the end of the court's case.

Half a dozen jurisdictions. The fastest wins best!

Staying free while working his appeal, won't exceed a year by much, if at all.

I will have a bet proposal for $500 that some wingnut here might find irresistible to make with me.

I will write the proposal on Sunday, unless admin contacts me to say it violates site rules. I have not read any rules that says proposing a bet is a no-no. But I think this website has secret rules that sometimes have gone into effect.

My bet will obviously have risk to me, so I am going to limit my loss to something I would be OK with.

[QUOTE=Canada;2658983]There is nothing to run away from Jan 6. Just another protest that was less violent than a BLM protest. You keep talking about January 6 like it hurt the American people but it is a fact Biden inflation is hurting Americans more than January 6 ever did.[/QUOTE]Even the most ignorant person in the US knows that January 6th was an [B]attempted coup[/B]. Nobody with a brain ever said that an attempted coup didn't hurt anybody. Ever.

[QUOTE=Canada;2658988]Cali Guy is right. Companies pay more for advertising on higher rated networks. Don't try to confuse the issue with nonsense.[/QUOTE]Here was Xpartan's original post:

{There are three major problems with all Trump's fan boys without exception.

1. Their catastrophic lack of reading comprehension.

2. Their unquenchable thirst for deluding themselves.

3. Their raging hatred for public figures who dislike their god.

Maybe stick to your beloved newsmax? Just saying. "

Here was CaliGuy's nonsense reply:

"I have my masters in finance so I probably have more reading comprehension than you. The people that support Trump work for a living and hire millions of employees. The people that support Biden are criminals, people on welfare, BLM and Antifa who are all a drain on society. And as far as the news, Fox was Number 1 for the 20th straight year with viewers increasing every year. Fake News CNN is going the opposite way declining every year. Real Americans want real news. That is why Fox News is getting watched and stays number 1. ".

Here's my reply to his nonsense:

"You claim to have great reading comprehension. Where, in the three (that's 3, meaning more than 2 and less than 4) points the OP posted did he ever mention the word news. Yet here you are mentioning "news"?

Comprehension is fundamental and you do not have it."

And then you reply to my post with: "[B]Cali Guy is right. Companies pay more for advertising on higher rated networks. Don't try to confuse the issue with nonsense.[/B].

Anybody with half-a-brain can see that your nonsense reply has absolutely nothing with the price of borscht in Moscow. And neither you nor he can read. You certainly can't respond more intelligently than my dog.

[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2659033]So.

Is it the case that FUX news is in 4th place, behind not just CBS, but also NBC and ABC netwok news?

I don't think that NBC and ABC would be short 2 million viewers from CBS's 5 million pairs of eyes.

It seems like FUX fake news could be trailing in fourth.[/QUOTE]It is absolutely true that FUX "News" is in 4th place.

NBC Nightly News gets about 8 MM viewers, ABC World News Tonight gets about 7. 5 MM, ABC Evening News gets about 5 MM. Fux "News" is wiping up the rear with less than 3 MM viewers.

But in the warped fascist mind, 3 MM is greater than 5 MM (and probably greater than 7. 5 MM and 8 MM). Never trust a fascist to be able to read, to comprehend what they've read or do perform simple math. How they graduated from 3rd grade is a miracle.

[QUOTE=Canada;2658984]Most of us still live in USA where someone is innocent until proven guilty. Just because you hate America doesn't give you the right to change the laws.[/QUOTE]Actually, people who love America change unjust laws all the time.

People like you who hate America want to Make America White Again. You see it at every rally that the OTTIFG holds.