I never negotiate, not before, not in the room. It's killing the mood for me, I am not in a business meeting closing a deal on buying frozen orange juice.
HB.
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I never negotiate, not before, not in the room. It's killing the mood for me, I am not in a business meeting closing a deal on buying frozen orange juice.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1788160]I never negotiate, not before, not in the room. It's killing the mood for me, I am not in a business meeting closing a deal on buying frozen orange juice.
HB.[/QUOTE]It does kind of seem low class to be and a potential mood killer when chemistry seems to be good. But on certain things I do ask, for example in GT Vienna I usually to make sure the girl does BBBJ.
Another question I usually ask in many places is do you kiss, if they do not, most likely they will suck. This question is not too involved and does not disrupt the mood. But haggling is really silly I think, I would rather try her out for 50 and see how it goes.
But I ask these questions beforehand, negotiation in the room is silly I think.
I don't negotiate and definitely not in the room, lets say I make sure I get what I pay for. Sometimes girls don't pay much attention if you show them 50 only and kiss / fuck uninterestingly.
They open up and alot can be achieved in the extra 50. I do not visit FKK that often so can't afford a bad session.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1788160]I never negotiate, not before, not in the room. It's killing the mood for me, I am not in a business meeting closing a deal on buying frozen orange juice.
HB.[/QUOTE]
This time I noticed one small thing during my visits. Girls who are not that popular or do not get booked are desperate for one and will go all the way to make clients happy. Atleast most of them I would say.
On the other hand if one picks up a popular or know girl there are chances that she might want to finish you (unless you are her client) fast and would end up giving a hurried service which lacks that personal touch.
I noticed half a dozen such girls for a couple of hours and saw no takers for them, picked one such filipina living and studying in Germany and trust you me the session turned out to be a wild one.
Report coming soon.
[QUOTE=SuperLove;1788189]I noticed half a dozen such girls for a couple of hours and saw no takers for them, picked one such filipina living and studying in Germany and trust you me the session turned out to be a wild one.
[/QUOTE]It seems you are talking about Kimba. She is known as a very good service provider.
[QUOTE=SuperLove;1788189]Girls who are not that popular or do not get booked are desperate for one and will go all the way to make clients happy. Atleast most of them I would say.
I noticed half a dozen such girls for a couple of hours and saw no takers for them, picked one such filipina living and studying in Germany and trust you me the session turned out to be a wild one.
[/QUOTE]That is correct for some girls, but not for all. There's girls who are not booked well because they don't give good service. And it doesn't get better just because she was without a client for a few hours. You were lucky with Kimba.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1788196]There's girls who are not booked well because they don't give good service. And it doesn't get better just because she was without a client for a few hours.
HB.[/QUOTE]Cute face and nice body is not enough to be a top girl at Sharks. Girl must have a brain and use it. Sometimes I repeat with the girls after long period even first session wasn't good hoping that they learn something. Some girls learn but some don't.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;1788202]Cute face and nice body is not enough to be a top girl at Sharks. Girl must have a brain and use it. [/QUOTE]For me cute face and nice body are not enough to be a top girl at ANY CLUB. Yeah, I'm also willing to give a great looking girl a second chance even if service wasn't great. In some cases service got better, but more often it was on the same level or worse. Some girls are clever and know what to do to make as much money as they can as long as their body is perfect, majority is not. Well, if they were, they wouldn't be there in the first place.
HB.
Perhaps it is not a lack of brains but lack of willingness. They probably know if they gave loads of DFK, sloppy bjs, throw in lots of (faked?) enthusiasm while fucking, let punters stick their fingers in all holes, etc etc, they could make more money; but they either don't like to, or lack the energy to maintain such energy levels for long periods. All of us have certain boundaries in life which we will not cross, so it should not be surprising that the girls have theirs.
I'm not surprised. The girls shouldn't be surprised that they are not making the money they expected or other top acts are making.
HB.
My guess is that they are not surprised either. That does not mean they will not whine. Most people whine in life even when they knew exactly what was coming, LOL.
If the service is under a certain level, guys generally will not think about repeating a girl no matter how hot she is. That is if the monger has been with enough girls to distinguish between good service and avg service. Ok, I've heard about guys that spend extraordinary amount of time with a girl just to be with her in the room which baffles me. I have been with some girls that are hot, some good for repeats, some just not good enough. Some turned out to be a novelty fuck than anything else. Janine at Sharks is one example that is apparent that guys will fuck her even with string of sub-average service reports. There is nothing about her that really pulls the guys than her looks I would imagine. Not likely she get that many repeats if any. If you've been with enough hotties, it's not that high of a criteria if the service sucks. Eye candy is certainly an important factor for me, but not the sole criteria. If I find an eye candy gives good service, it makes my day. The fact is, there are various clubs, and therefore many girls out there. Enough competition out there to move to another girl if service not up to snuff. In general, ideal girls are good balance of looks and service.
I've seen some girls that guys take, and I would imagine service is the draw. Some guys weigh service higher than looks. The thing about optics is that guys have particularities look for. For some it's probably more difficult than others if their particularities in optical features are a lot more rare.
[QUOTE=Kib123;1787864]I thought the policy was once you stick anything up their bum it is 100 extra? Or did you prenegotiate this part?[/QUOTE]So there are guys giving out 50 or 100 notes (which is same or double as a complete 30 min session) for sticking one finger in a girl's ass, or for mentioning / requesting CIM without actually doing it, just because the girl tell them to do so. That is frankly ridiculous, however probably even some experienced monger find it sort of fair? No wonder average sharkiness and greed levels keep on rising among girls. Never happened to me such claim in 10+ years of FKK and quite sure it never will, but in case I wouldn't hesitate one second bringing it to the desk (should the girl force me to). In any of the major german Fkks.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1788328]If the service is under a certain level, guys generally will not think about repeating a girl no matter how hot she is. [/QUOTE]I once took a very hot chick to a downstairs room in World and the session was amongst the worst I've ever had, she then practically ran up the stairs to get paid. She was so hot I wanted a second shot at it so I took her into a room with one of my favorites, got the biggest upstairs room at World. First thing I did was had them climb on the bed and told them to jump up and down, she was all smiles, finally having fun in a club. Her service improved tenfold. Took her to the room several more times, she even hunted me out late one night while I was talking to some friends in the cafeteria and sat in my lap nude and said she wanted to go to the room with my girl again. I've probably done this a dozen times or more, repeat with the hopes of the service improving.
What's there to lose? Either you repeat with a girl who underperformed and she does much better or you repeat with a girl who was a fantastic fuck but underperforms because she thinks she has control of you.
[QUOTE=Breadman;1788358]What's there to lose? Either you repeat with a girl who underperformed and she does much better or you repeat with a girl who was a fantastic fuck but underperforms because she thinks she has control of you.[/QUOTE]There are exceptions, but the risk is another crappy session, more money and time wasted. Chances are high especially if she is known as a low service provider. Depends on the level of service. If it's crap, I will definitely not repeat. But, if there some potential there, I probably would if she is hot enough.