Seeking Arrangements

[QUOTE=NeilGeorge;2970691] told "by a doctor that he would pay her $800 each meeting". So she thought $800 was her value. .
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Wondering what you guys say to women who want to know "if we are on the same page" "so we do not waste each others time".
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she complained she was tired and wanted a nap
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Fortunately the ATM denied my withdrawal
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[/QUOTE]There possibly was no doctor, it's just her way to ask for 800.

On the other hand, I once met a girl who wanted approx 3 k, converted to usd. Eventually we met for around 300 because she had bills due. But to meet again, she wouldn't go below 1. 2 k. Said she'd only had one sugar date and that rich old guy did pay her $3 k. Given the location and the girl's style, I think she was telling the truth.

If I hear "on the same page" or any similar language, I tend to block and ghost on the spot. These are professional SBs, which feel like escorts except sex is worse.

As soon as she complained, I would have offered her a ride home, without ppm of course. If a new girl is in my room at night, whether sugar or vanilla, and she isn't in the mood, I usually ask her to leave and maybe meet another day.

In your place, I would have still venmo'ed her something. 5 minutes of lame sex at 2 am doesn't deserve the full ppm but zero would feel unfair to me. I've run into this too, also with a Black girl, I regret to mention. They ask to get room service, then "get tired" and try to short you on sex. Maybe they've all read that Hoe Tactics book. Girls who play this game also tend to ask for their money upfront, in which case I offer and prefer to send them home right away.

Anyone had any relatively recent experiences using Seeking in Brazil? I'm currently talking to a girl from So Paulo just by chance on the site. It might be nice to meet her when I'm down next (early 2025) if she proves to be "real" and not just another scammer.

I absolutely adore the Seeking game, despite all its flaws. It is totally worth the trouble. But I also enjoy the girl buffet and picking from many hotties at a club and enjoying time together. This trip to Brazil was the best of my entire girls-career, with 15 girls in 8 days, including an amazing Seeking "girlfriend" who I found in 2023 and have repeated four times with including traveling her.

Feel free to skip this slightly OT read if it's not your thing but I would suggest any man with a dick find his way to Brazil. It truly cannot be beat for passionate women and a target rich environment.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2204-Sao-Paulo-Reports&p=2971446&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2971446.

[QUOTE=FilthyBeaver;2969601] ... I usually provide x for a dinner date or sightseeing and if we head back to my place there would be something extra, maybe 2 x ... [/QUOTE]

Thanks for being so candid about your looks, age etc in your earlier post: lots of respect to guys who succeed in using SA to date out of their league.

I didn't quite understand what you said above. Do you mean you offer money for a dinner date or sightseeing only, ie for platonic dates? I can see how this would filter out escorts, who want to make $250 / HR and don't mind the sex part. But won't this offer attract girls who just want to collect the $250 and have no intention of being intimate with you? How exactly does it work: you do dinner or a castle tour, then you give her $250, and then you find out if she wants to head back to your place? I consistently block-ghost girls who ask for such a setup. Your style is very different than mine so I'd like to learn.

Any tips on this fake work trip?

One area I had been struggling with. I am probably being too careful but I am also aware I can do more hotties if I manage to travel, without evoking suspicion, more often.

[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2971365]This. Totally.

If you would have told me, this would be what I would be doing my 40's I'the never believe you. Never. Banging girls I was too old to bang when I left college? No way.

This little hobby probably costs me 5 a year in allowance and 20 all in with these fake little work trips that I take. And there is very little I would change about it. It's honestly the best money I spent. It directly accrues to to my happiness. And if I did it more It probably wouldn't be aa special. And if I did regular dating girls my age I'the be lusting after the 23 year old. This is just plain good for me.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gfefan;2971502]Any tips on this fake work trip?

One area I had been struggling with. I am probably being too careful but I am also aware I can do more hotties if I manage to travel, without evoking suspicion, more often.[/QUOTE]Do you already travel for work? That is prob key. And can U siphon off money to fund the trips without her knowing? Those are the keys. After that you just say you have a trip to xxx and make it happen. Be careful tho about going somewhere different than you say. I have done that a couple times but once it went sideways. Always try to stay as close to the truth as possible.

Another tip is to get away from the company travel system reporting. I used to send her the itinerary straight out of SAP or whatever. But then instead I would send it to myself as rich text and then maybe edit a bit for brevity. Then when I started self funding and booking outside the travel system nothing looked amiss and I could edit little details like number of occupants.

Ps I did the math on self-funded Bangkok, So Paulo, and Europe and it all comes out about the same for a ten day trip. About $5000-6000 USD the way I roll. Yes girls are cheaper in Thailand but not enough to offset the flights. And yes Brasil is cheaper than Europe but not so much at the clubs I go to. FWIW I rank them Brasil, Thailand, Europe. But that wont keep me from going to Europe! Its all good!

[QUOTE=Gfefan;2971502]Any tips on this fake work trip?

One area I had been struggling with. I am probably being too careful but I am also aware I can do more hotties if I manage to travel, without evoking suspicion, more often.[/QUOTE]I'll DM you.

[QUOTE=FilthyBeaver;2970846] Met my trip partner on T-0 (yes, day of and no commitment before that) [/QUOTE]FB, I got a few more questions for you if I may:

1. Do you adjust your travel plans to visit the most promising contacts? Or stick to your itinerary and tell them eg "I'll be in Krakow on December 15, join me for dinner" and hope it happens?

2. Repeating my earlier question: if you offer sugar purely for dinners and day tours, how do you filter out girls who have no intention of having sex with you and just want to be paid for platonic company?

3. Account type MODELKA (model): does that correspond to the most attractive girls?

4. Is it ok to discuss money in the gold bikini chat, unlike SA?

5. Can you exchange photos in the chat or need to move to whatsapp? Did you post your own photo there?

[QUOTE=TheCane;2971449]Anyone had any relatively recent experiences using Seeking in Brazil? [/QUOTE]I met a girl from SA in SP this year. Pretty straight forward. Asked 1500 iirc, agreed to half that, same day meet. Would have been good but not great by Scandy standards, just happened to have the look that I wanted on that day. Some other girls won't go below 300 usd. Not many scams ime. It's a good place to find a girl who speaks English and maybe a "model. " True non-pros are few.

1) First off, I travel for fun. I like history, palaces and castles. I like big regional cities because I can always find something that piques my curious mind. So I book an in and out of country airfare, not necessarily the same airport and get a car for maximum flexibility. Then I'll look at hotels and decide how many days I'll spend in each place. London can be a week, Frankfurt might be a couple days. There is no such thing as a promising contact. Women are women and they'll say one thing today start ovulating tomorrow and you are SOL. Accept it. To mitigate as best I can I try to establish contact and chat her up so she knows, I'm real, have money, and not going to be one of the million flakes that tries to get her for nothing. That works in seeking reasonably ok. In eastern Europe you're just another time waster and lier. I haven't cracked that nut successfully so I get more aggressive with contacts as the trip gets closer. It becomes a straight numbers games. There are VERY few times I've taken a girl out and not had sex. Again, a tasting menu at an expensive restaurant is not something they've ever done and it's just as good as buying them a Mercedes. That said, there are girls I didn't want to bed for whatever reason, attitude chemistry, who knows. I am extremely picky and I can safely say that beside one other member here my standards are impossibly high. I don't want a nut, I want a nut with the hottest girl in the room.

2) if they meet for dinner for money they will have sex. I leave the door open to give myself an out. If she doesn't look like her pics or repulsed me somehow I give her a couple hundred and go home with a clean conscience understanding that she probably needs the 200 more than I do so whatever.

3) Don't know. Only ever had one modal contact me and I wasn't going to pay more to be able to talk to her and get catfished. My guess is they are mostly pros and ask for more that the usually. No thanks to both points from me.

4) Yes but the serious one will be willing to move to telegram or whatsapp fairly quick where they can send you disappearing pics (that buga the holly fuck out of me BTW). I usually dump them when they do that shit.

5) yes, directly from gbc and you can delete it whenever you want as well. I'm not talking profile pics I'm talking private chat pics per your question.

[QUOTE=NoBuglyFitches;2971605]FB, I got a few more questions for you if I may:

1. Do you adjust your travel plans to visit the most promising contacts? Or stick to your itinerary and tell them eg "I'll be in Krakow on December 15, join me for dinner" and hope it happens?

2. Repeating my earlier question: if you offer sugar purely for dinners and day tours, how do you filter out girls who have no intention of having sex with you and just want to be paid for platonic company?

3. Account type MODELKA (model): does that correspond to the most attractive girls?

4. Is it ok to discuss money in the gold bikini chat, unlike SA?

5. Can you exchange photos in the chat or need to move to whatsapp? Did you post your own photo there?[/QUOTE]

Thank you! Very informative!

I need to be clear, I have never and will never offer money to someone for a first meet at home. Without exception, everyone who's ever asked at home and still met after I told them no, I wouldn't have banged with your dick and I don't know you.

Overseas I see things a bit different. Time is money. If you roll in hotel stays and airfare, you're easily in the hole 4-500/ day just for the opportunity to probably be let down (at least at the kinds of hotels I stay at). So I play coy knowing my targets are civies that are trying to convince themselves they're not prostitutes rather than engaging actual pros. BTW and for the record sugar babies are not prostitutes in my book and I don't treat them that way, or anyone for that matter. Also, once they've convinced themselves they can do this they ALL want a long term guy to wash themselves of the psychological stigma. Knowing that I can't offer long term I say something like, "Hey I got a reservation at "insert name of some famous expensive place here" but I don't have a date, interested? A hot civie will jump on that like Shaqs dick. Once they see me aa a normal presentable guy with manners and no pressure to do anything, if I'm feeling it I'll ask them to my room and I've never once been told no. Again it's about what I want and I am impossibly picky.

It's not uncommon for me to shell out 1 k as an opening salvo for food, show, drinks, whatever but if I like them the price is reasonable because I know I don't like most of what else is out there.

Now, to sound like a complete asshole, my last three babies were under 26, all taller than me by several inches, model physique, and the sweetest nicest humble girls you'd ever want. I've convinced myself I have a gift and most of it is common sense and some disposable income. It's not too hard to outsmart a girl half your age and to have some disposable income you need to be reasonably intelligent so at the end of the day it really comes down to persistence (putting up with the considerable bullshit on any dating site) being smart enough to not get caught if you're married I'm not), and common sense.

Class dismissed, good luck and keep us posted. I went to a less popular European country to hopefully meet a few hot girls for dates and sex. Ended seeing 1 with little to no chemistry, the second has followed me around the country for the last 7 days and 4 cities, has asked for nothing and fucks me dry nightly as I stare at the walls wondering how the hell this happened. She is so far past hot in my book I can't describe her and no I will not send pics. Believe me or not, I don't care.

[QUOTE=NoBuglyFitches;2971455]Thanks for being so candid about your looks, age etc in your earlier post: lots of respect to guys who succeed in using SA to date out of their league.

I didn't quite understand what you said above. Do you mean you offer money for a dinner date or sightseeing only, ie for platonic dates? I can see how this would filter out escorts, who want to make $250 / HR and don't mind the sex part. But won't this offer attract girls who just want to collect the $250 and have no intention of being intimate with you? How exactly does it work: you do dinner or a castle tour, then you give her $250, and then you find out if she wants to head back to your place? I consistently block-ghost girls who ask for such a setup. Your style is very different than mine so I'd like to learn.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheCane;2971449]Anyone had any relatively recent experiences using Seeking in Brazil? I'm currently talking to a girl from So Paulo just by chance on the site. It might be nice to meet her when I'm down next (early 2025) if she proves to be "real" and not just another scammer.[/QUOTE]Yes, Seeking definitely works in Brazil. I used it earlier this year; you can check out my Floripa post. But, if you are inviting them to your place, you will have to pay for transportation. Rather than sending them money directly, I just suggest sending a car to them from your Uber account. Most of the Brazilians on Seeking are friendly and open, and do not mind chatting with you.

But, I will say things will vary from area to area. Using Seeking in Fortaleza will not be the same as using Seeking in Belo Horizonte.

Probably need to use extra caution in Rio. Good luck.

[QUOTE=VanessasClient;2971797]Yes, Seeking definitely works in Brazil. I used it earlier this year; you can check out my Floripa post. But, if you are inviting them to your place, you will have to pay for transportation. Rather than sending them money directly, I just suggest sending a car to them from your Uber account. Most of the Brazilians on Seeking are friendly and open, and do not mind chatting with you.

But, I will say things will vary from area to area. Using Seeking in Fortaleza will not be the same as using Seeking in Belo Horizonte.

Probably need to use extra caution in Rio. Good luck.[/QUOTE]And to NoBuglyFitches as well. I was thinking about using it in Curitiba and Florianopolis where the puta opportunities won't be as strong as in Rio and Sampa.

My Seeking membership is about to expire. They offered me 15% off and I didn't bite. Now with a week to go they offered me 25% off. I decided I'm going to go ahead and re-up. But, is a 25% discount as good as it gets on Seeking these days? Should I go ahead and bite now, or hold out for a bit longer? Would appreciate feedback from anyone here with any recent experience regarding this. Thanks in advance.