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[QUOTE=Skip Kost;1365356]Interestingly, the Japanese have never apologized and continue to insist the women were not coerced into service.[/QUOTE]For a purely 'voluntary' service, the comfort girls sure had a high mortality rate. I read somewhere that 3 out of 4 died due to disease, malnutrition and ill treatment. I'm sure that these figures also included a inordinately high suicide rate. It is a national disgrace that the Japanese have never formally admitted and apologised for their vile treatment of women during the war which included a number of Dutch girls captured in what is now Indonesia and forced to service 20-30 Japanese soldiers a day. An unknown number of Filipinas were also kidnapped from their villages and press ganged into whoring for the Japs. I think that, several years ago, the survivors were offered a derisory sum of a few thousand dollars in compensation by the Japanese Government. I imagine that most of them accepted.

Was clicking through my channels yesterday morning and saw an interesting documentation.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRUIJx-02lI[/url]

So be careful with the MILFs, hehe.

[quote=cunning stunt;1365457]for a purely 'voluntary' service, the comfort girls sure had a high mortality rate. i read somewhere that 3 out of 4 died due to disease, malnutrition and ill treatment. i'm sure that these figures also included a inordinately high suicide rate. it is a national disgrace that the japanese have never formally admitted and apologised for their vile treatment of women during the war which included a number of dutch girls captured in what is now indonesia and forced to service 20-30 japanese soldiers a day. an unknown number of filipinas were also kidnapped from their villages and press ganged into whoring for the japs. i think that, several years ago, the survivors were offered a derisory sum of a few thousand dollars in compensation by the japanese government. i imagine that most of them accepted.[/quote]the japanese army was the nastiest marching army before or since. for a primer, try iris chang's "the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] of nanking." the japanese army committed these kinds of attrocities in hundreds of cities across asia, as far south as indonesia. they've never apologized for much of anything.

[quote=westcoast1;1365604]the japanese army was the nastiest marching army before or since. for a primer, try iris chang's "the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] of nanking." the japanese army committed these kinds of attrocities in hundreds of cities across asia, as far south as indonesia. they've never apologized for much of anything.[/quote]to west coast

the japanese have no shame they want to rule the world and think they still do, remember the zhu hai china japanese orgy that happen on 72 anniversary start of japan occupy china in 1931.

[url]http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/en/doc/2003-12/17/content_291296.htm[/url]

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Well just walked through Mall of Asia. I often wondered about which is more desireable, Thai or Filipina.

As the leading providers of sex in Asia, which of the two is better. I'm sure it's a matter of personal preferance,

But having walked through this huge mall, I still felt like I"m in a Wal-Mart.

I have just walked past hundreds of women and I didn't feel particularly attracted to ANY of them?

It seems to me that these women (in the capitol city of the country) have NO sense of style or individual.

Personality. It is a cookie cutter mindset passed on mother to daughter.

Endless numbers of women with straight hair, in old jeans and sandals, no makeup, (welcome to the 3rd world).

I have to say I did not feel quite this way in MBK in BKK.

But things are quite the opposite in bed. Pinays are very sexy naked, and that they speak English and connect.

With you on a personal level is phuking outstanding. They are very sweet naturally, and just want a good man.

Thai women for me have been pretty mechanical in bed and don't have any passion.

In looks I would say Thai, but who cares about the box on Christmas. I will show my friends the Thai girls pic,

But enjoy personally the Filipina in bed. Just my. 02 cent.

[QUOTE=Naked Gunz; 1366410]Well just walked through Mall of Asia. I often wondered about which is more desireable, Thai or Filipina.

As the leading providers of sex in Asia, which of the two is better. I'm sure it's a matter of personal preferance,

But having walked through this huge mall, I still felt like I"m in a Wal-Mart.

I have just walked past hundreds of women and I didn't feel particularly attracted to ANY of them?[/QUOTE]Gunz:

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[quote=westcoast1;1365604]the japanese army was the nastiest marching army before or since. for a primer, try iris chang's "the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] of nanking." the japanese army committed these kinds of attrocities in hundreds of cities across asia, as far south as indonesia. they've never apologized for much of anything.[/quote]i read a story a while ago that quoted a member of the japanese army in china during wwii. he said that the standard procedure with every new town or village was to kill all of the men and boys in the town, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] the women they wanted to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and kill the women after the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. then collect all the food and head for the next battle or town. they had no supply lines so depended on taking the food they found wherever they went. of course, with the killing, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and murder too. absolutely pitiful and pitiless.

[quote=mrhombre;1366692]i read a story a while ago that quoted a member of the japanese army in china during wwii. he said that the standard procedure with every new town or village was to kill all of the men and boys in the town, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] the women they wanted to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and kill the women after the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. then collect all the food and head for the next battle or town. they had no supply lines so depended on taking the food they found wherever they went. of course, with the killing, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and murder too. absolutely pitiful and pitiless.[/quote]yes, and now many filipinos don't like americans. my father had nightmares until the day he died of fighting in the philippines during wwii. thankless, begging, cheating, money hungry bastards. but the girls are ok.

[quote=skip kost;1365356]interestingly, the japanese have never apologized and continue to insist the women were not coerced into service.[/quote]really?

wikipedia isn't the most authoritative source, but a quick read turns this up:

[quote]in 1965, the japanese government awarded $364 million to the korean government for all war damages, including the injury done to comfort women. in 1994, the japanese government set up the asian women's fund to distribute additional compensation to south korea, the philippines, taiwan, the netherlands, and indonesia. each survivor was provided with a signed apology from the then prime minister tomiichi murayama, stating "as prime minister of japan, i thus extend anew my most sincere apologies and remorse to all the women who underwent immeasurable and painful experiences and suffered incurable physical and psychological wounds as comfort women."the fund was dissolved on march 31, 2007.

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on january 14, 1992, japanese chief government spokesman koichi kato issued an official apology saying "we cannot deny that the former japanese army played a role" in abducting and detaining the "comfort girls," and "we would like to express our apologies and contrition". three days later on january 17, 1992 at a dinner given by south korean president roh tae woo, the japanese prime minister kiichi miyazawa told his host: " we japanese should first and foremost recall the truth of that tragic period when japanese actions inflicted suffering and sorrow upon your people. we should never forget our feelings of remorse over this. as prime minister of japan, i would like to declare anew my remorse at these deeds and tender my apology to the people of the republic of korea." and apologized again the following day in a speech before south korea's national assembly.[/quote]i don't have a dog in this fight, but i do have an interest in getting the facts before i start using or believing absolutes such as "never". up to you to decide whether the apology and compensation was sufficient.

was the japanese imperial military the most horrific or nastiest one in world history, as someone else has written? i'm pretty sure genghis khan's mongol horde tops japan's. here's a quote: “man's greatest joy is to slay his enemy, plunder his riches, ride his steeds, see the tears of his loved ones and embrace his women.” i recently saw a documentary on discovery or natgeo that stated 1 in 200 of the world's male population is a direct descendent of genghis khan. in asia it's 8% of all males.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1365069]Most of the bigger malls are now using the monster paper roll that is locked to prevent pilfering. Similar to the ones that I saw in most toilets in Australia on my trip back there recently.

If there isn't one in the stall, there may be one beside the sink where you must guess how many metres of paper you will need before you return to your stall for the dump.[/QUOTE]I may have been gone a few months from ISG Philippines, but hwo did the meandering and wordsmithing that we all employ, get us onto the subject of toilet paper? In my many years of ISG Phils, I have of course seen many subjects raised, but toilet paper? Thats a new one. See you in Jan!

[QUOTE=Hutsori; 1366760]Really?

Wikipedia isn't the most authoritative source, but a quick read turns this up:

I don't have a dog in this fight, but I do have an interest in getting the facts before I start using or believing absolutes such as "never". Up to you to decide whether the apology and compensation was sufficient.

Was the Japanese Imperial military the most horrific or nastiest one in world history, as someone else has written? I'm pretty sure Genghis Khan's Mongol horde tops Japan's. Here's a quote: 'Man's greatest joy is to slay his enemy, plunder his riches, ride his steeds, see the tears of his loved ones and embrace his women. ' I recently saw a documentary on Discovery or NatGeo that stated 1 in 200 of the world's male population is a direct descendent of Genghis Khan. In Asia it's 8% of all males.[/QUOTE]Hut: Many thanks. Fact replaces everything else. I will PM you.

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1366844]Fact replaces everything else.[/QUOTE]Indeed. Absolutes such as "never" or "always" are invariably difficult to defend, and sometimes flat wrong--such as when the author conflates comfort station apologies with apologies over other WWII issues. The situation has unfortunately raised its ugly head again recently. Korea in particular has questioned the sincerity of Japan's apology and compensation.

See, for example: [url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/oct/18/forced-prostitution-wartime-japan-korea[/url]

"grievances came to the fore again recently when South Korea's president, Lee Myung-bak, made a politically charged trip to Dokdo – a pair of remote, rocky islands also claimed by Japan, where they are known as Takeshima. The visit was not just intended to demonstrate his country's de facto control over the territory. Lee linked his visit to Tokyo's failure to apologise for the use of sex slaves, and challenged Japan's emperor, Akihito, to issue a mea culpa on the country's behalf."

"in 1993 Yohei Kono, the-then chief cabinet secretary, acknowledged and apologised for the first time for Japan's use of sex slaves during the second world war. Japan refused to directly compensate the women, saying all claims were settled by postwar peace treaties. In 1995 it set up the privately run Asian women's fund, which drew on donations, but many women rejected any redress unless it came directly from the Japanese state. The fund was disbanded in 2007."

There are other current rumblings that "Japan's new (and former) prime minister, Shinzo Abe, and his conservative government may revise Japan's 1993 apology for forcing thousands of women to be sex slaves in the service of Japanese soldiers during World War II."

See: [url]http://rendezvous.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/12/27/will-japan-unapologize-for-comfort-women/[/url]

Just wondering about getting around the country, and the safest, most economical ways to do so. Advice on getting between islands, things to watch for, scams, or even places to avoid during my month long trip. Just looking for general advice from the vets.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1366773]hwo did the meandering and wordsmithing that we all employ, get us onto the subject of toilet paper? In my many years of ISG Phils, I have of course seen many subjects raised, but toilet paper? Thats a new one.[/QUOTE]I think I recall a post or two in the past recommending newbies to plan for carrying TP in the Phils, given that it's often not available in CRs in malls, bars, and eateries.

To the extent that ISG can offer information for newbies, there is a long list of "general advice" issues that sometimes percolate to the surface of this thread and others. They include: CRs and TP, what not to eat, where to eat and where not to eat, cell phone and internet issues, how to deal with taxi drivers, tipping in business establishments, getting medicine over the counter at pharmacies, how and where to carry (or safeguard) money and valuables, dealing with the various touts, hawkers, beggars, and overly-friendly Filipino strangers, parts of the city to avoid, dealing with mass transportation, travel around the country, how to dress, a few basics of Tagalog or Cebuano, entertainment venues, and so on. I'm guilty of causing some meanders, but in the end there's a lot of useful information in the forum for newbies willing to RTFF. And as M69 shows, sometimes there is still not enough on some topics.