Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=Turgid;2847367]My bad, I'm a casa man and used to bang girls looking like that in the casas back in the day. I can't speak for fb or seeking.[/QUOTE]I hear you. I have thing for finding at least one stunner and its easier for me to do online to visit Casas not knowing what I am going to find. Don't we all mourn the days when you can walk into the Mansion and find those stunner girls all day long -FB and Only Fans have ruined that to some extent too. I mourn those days and I have never been to the Mansion LOL. Unfortunately all I did was read about it back then when it was a lurker on the Medellin thread who only went to Cartagena and by the time I made it to Medellin I had to learn the FB scene to find the chicas I was looking for and since the price was the same as a chica in Caratagena at the time (150 k t0 200 k) it didn't matter to me. I could find those stunner girls in LDV every night in Cartagena. When LDV it was in Laguito it was easier because it was big enough to mover around. Now in the LDV of the old city its harder to move around but those stunners are still there too.

As far as pricing goes I believe, IMHO, JjBee62 and Mr International are both right as usual (even if they do not always agree with each other LOL) there are a lot of variables and no fixed prices. YMMV.

A lot of times these girls are thinking in the moment that makes them desperate. Maybe their baby has a birthday or one of their friends has a birthday coming up and none of their "regulars" are in town so they will take something over nothing. Too many variables to caculate. If you negotiate whether or not you fuck her in the end will not come down to what she thinks she is worth it is what you think she is worth. Which is what has ruined the market for us budget guys LOL.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2847437]Nounce posted a few Seeking chicks recently, and most of them will never get 500-600 k simply because they are ugly and don't belong to this price range in the first place.[/QUOTE]So show us some girls ON SEEKING that do command this price range. Since Seeking is supposed to be the bee's knees and many guys here say they pay chicks from Seeking that amount, there should be no problem pointing the 600 K chicks on that particular site out.

[QUOTE=TexasPistol;2847361]To me, good sex means a woman under 30 (I'm over 60), who is pretty (I guess that means at least a 7), friendly, polite and loves sex.[/QUOTE]This begs the question does she have to love sex with guys over 60 the same way that good sex to you means a woman under 30? Or is it still fine that she only loves sex with guys her own age but not older guys?

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2847437]Girls in the 600 k+ category are usually doing well, even having very few dates. Some of them are doing much better than you would think, and are probably on a yacht somewhere in Europe, as we speak. I also disagree that a girl has to cater to gringos specifically to get a consistent rate of 150 k+. As Mr E would say, half of MDE got a pussy, however true stunners willing to sell pussy, are scarce even in MDE. These girls can easily cater to wealthy or upper middle class locals. In the grand scheme of things, 100-150 USD is not a lot, and not only gringos can afford those rates. But to command those rates, a girl has to stand out. Nounce posted a few Seeking chicks recently, and most of them will never get 500-600 k simply because they are ugly and don't belong to this price range in the first place.

I can hardly imagine a 600 k girl to be so desperate that she would accept 25% of that, let alone 50 k from her neighbor. Once she reaches that price point on a regular basis, it makes zero sense to fuck her neighbor for 50 k, unless they are fuck buddies and just have casual sex.

Also, a "sufficient customer base" doesn't mean 10's or hundreds of gringos. It could be only a few guys at a time. Couple dates per week or so. Most of the girls who charge more don't need high volume to make the money they need. Even one sugar daddy with a couple of side daddies (as a backup) would be sufficient. Some girls only engage in p4 p to supplement their income. Girls who charge less, rely on a higher volume of customers, and in the case of El centro SW and casas, on a MUCH higher volume. Everybody needs money, but not everybody is starving to the point they have to accept whatever they are offered.

What I noticed is that some posters here are stuck in the past when it comes to prices. The rates have increased substantially since after Covid. Everything got more expensive, airbnbs, flights, etc. Some guys have regulars they know for years, and enjoy grandfathered pricing. Others have long term arrangements, or relationships, and don't hunt anymore, or haven't been in the country in a while, and have no clue about the going rates. You gotta be in the game to know what the rates are.[/QUOTE]That explains the disagreement. In your world all the hookers have MBA's and live in a magical land that's nothing like Colombia, or any other country I've ever heard of.

Maybe, and it's a stretch, 1 out of every 1,000 Colombian hookers get themselves into a stable financial situation and many of those do it by finding other girls to pimp out. You would have us believe that the reason guys have trouble finding hookers is because they are all out of cell range on their yachts in the Mediterranean.

Sure some girls get sugar daddies. Some, particularly webcam models, get several. But the vast majority are living the typical feast or famine life. If they get a good payday, they will party until they're broke, then scramble to get enough to feed their kids, until the next sucker comes along to fund the next binge.

Prostitution is almost never a consciously chosen career path. It's the result of bad decisions and minimal options. That doesn't magically transform into economic savvy, marketing genius and time management mastery.

Fortunately, that means anyone with a bit of cash will always have options.

Ruin the market in Medellin for sure. That's why I moved on. How can you compete with a guy that sending a prostitute a month allowance. LOL!

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2847460]I hear you. I have thing for finding at least one stunner and its easier for me to do online to visit Casas not knowing what I am going to find. Don't we all mourn the days when you can walk into the Mansion and find those stunner girls all day long -FB and Only Fans have ruined that to some extent too. I mourn those days and I have never been to the Mansion LOL. Unfortunately all I did was read about it back then when it was a lurker on the Medellin thread who only went to Cartagena and by the time I made it to Medellin I had to learn the FB scene to find the chicas I was looking for and since the price was the same as a chica in Caratagena at the time (150 k t0 200 k) it didn't matter to me. I could find those stunner girls in LDV every night in Cartagena. When LDV it was in Laguito it was easier because it was big enough to mover around. Now in the LDV of the old city its harder to move around but those stunners are still there too.

As far as pricing goes I believe, IMHO, JjBee62 and Mr International are both right as usual (even if they do not always agree with each other LOL) there are a lot of variables and no fixed prices. YMMV.

A lot of times these girls are thinking in the moment that makes them desperate. Maybe their baby has a birthday or one of their friends has a birthday coming up and none of their "regulars" are in town so they will take something over nothing. Too many variables to caculate. If you negotiate whether or not you fuck her in the end will not come down to what she thinks she is worth it is what you think she is worth. Which is what has ruined the market for us budget guys LOL.[/QUOTE]

I will be taking a holiday from Pattaya in a few months, and am debating to go to either MDE or Rio. I am 100% fluent in Spanish, but my Portuguese is a bit lame.

So, I am reading this forum with great interest (I have been to Rio many times).

How long would you suggest staying in MDE?

It stands to reason that organized forward focused financial planning is not a prominent attribute among prepagos. For example, many of the Centro street girls (some of them with several children) pay a daily fee for their living space. They work the street to get enough dates for food and their daily rent. If they don't earn enough and can't convince their landlord to give them a break (usually in exchange for an extra cost) they will be put out and have to bunk up with a friend or find a spot out on the street.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2847460]I hear you. I have thing for finding at least one stunner and its easier for me to do online to visit Casas not knowing what I am going to find. Don't we all mourn the days when you can walk into the Mansion and find those stunner girls all day long -FB and Only Fans have ruined that to some extent too. I mourn those days and I have never been to the Mansion LOL. Unfortunately all I did was read about it back then when it was a lurker on the Medellin thread who only went to Cartagena and by the time I made it to Medellin I had to learn the FB scene to find the chicas I was looking for and since the price was the same as a chica in Caratagena at the time (150 k t0 200 k) it didn't matter to me. I could find those stunner girls in LDV every night in Cartagena. When LDV it was in Laguito it was easier because it was big enough to mover around. Now in the LDV of the old city its harder to move around but those stunners are still there too.

As far as pricing goes I believe, IMHO, JjBee62 and Mr International are both right as usual (even if they do not always agree with each other LOL) there are a lot of variables and no fixed prices. YMMV.

A lot of times these girls are thinking in the moment that makes them desperate. Maybe their baby has a birthday or one of their friends has a birthday coming up and none of their "regulars" are in town so they will take something over nothing. Too many variables to caculate. If you negotiate whether or not you fuck her in the end will not come down to what she thinks she is worth it is what you think she is worth. Which is what has ruined the market for us budget guys LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2847538]That explains the disagreement. In your world all the hookers have MBA's and live in a magical land that's nothing like Colombia, or any other country I've ever heard of.[/QUOTE]They are also models and beauty queens. Nothing wrong with having pride in the prostitute that you pay your money to. Afterall, she is representing what your money can buy.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2847538]That explains the disagreement. In your world all the hookers have MBA's and live in a magical land that's nothing like Colombia, or any other country I've ever heard of.

Maybe, and it's a stretch, 1 out of every 1,000 Colombian hookers get themselves into a stable financial situation and many of those do it by finding other girls to pimp out. You would have us believe that the reason guys have trouble finding hookers is because they are all out of cell range on their yachts in the Mediterranean.

Sure some girls get sugar daddies. Some, particularly webcam models, get several. But the vast majority are living the typical feast or famine life. If they get a good payday, they will party until they're broke, then scramble to get enough to feed their kids, until the next sucker comes along to fund the next binge.

Prostitution is almost never a consciously chosen career path. It's the result of bad decisions and minimal options. That doesn't magically transform into economic savvy, marketing genius and time management mastery.

Fortunately, that means anyone with a bit of cash will always have options.[/QUOTE]You are talking about bottom feeders, dirt poor girls, drug addicts, often with kids, living in a shack and trying to make ends meet every day. Most of the girls that I meet don't have MBA degree, but are in a much better position in life. Currently attending college or having a job, living in better neighborhoods, etc. Some are more fortunate because they get supported by parents. We are talking about different categories of girls.

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2847586]Ruin the market in Medellin for sure. That's why I moved on. How can you compete with a guy that sending a prostitute a month allowance. LOL![/QUOTE]You can't compete with a guy sending a girl a monthly allowance BUT there are plenty of other girls in Medellin. What you can do is move on to other girls. All this talk about guys ruining the market in Medellin is a bit too much. There are plenty of girls in Medellin. Some are priced very high due to their ability to attract guys willing to pay the amount requested but others do not have the luxury of waiting for guys to accept their terms. I have been visiting Medellin a few times now, and I've never had issues with finding young attractive girls for a reasonable price. Now I do encounter a few girls here and there asking for much more than I am willing to pay but I just say it is too much and move on to the next girl. I don't agonize about that particular girl and our inability to agree to terms. There are plenty of girls to chose from.

We all have our circles. I don't notice a shortage of girls in mine. I would say prices overall since the pandemic have very slightly outpaced the rate of inflation. The most recent annual inflation benchmark in Colombia is 13%. Seeking Arrangement, facebook, and Instagram are outlier markets with all sorts of exception cases. Casas and the streets of Centro are more uniform. Both have increased in cost an average 10,000 pesos, which is roughly 20% since the pandemic. The numbers don't account for the intangible of how we manage the sessions and relationships, which is what I think determines our level of satisfaction more than the price paid.

[QUOTE=MoonShot;2847634]You can't compete with a guy sending a girl a monthly allowance BUT there are plenty of other girls in Medellin. What you can do is move on to other girls. All this talk about guys ruining the market in Medellin is a bit too much. There are plenty of girls in Medellin. Some are priced very high due to their ability to attract guys willing to pay the amount requested but others do not have the luxury of waiting for guys to accept their terms. I have been visiting Medellin a few times now, and I've never had issues with finding young attractive girls for a reasonable price. Now I do encounter a few girls here and there asking for much more than I am willing to pay but I just say it is too much and move on to the next girl. I don't agonize about that particular girl and our inability to agree to terms. There are plenty of girls to chose from.[/QUOTE]

Yes sir. I know there are plenty of girls in Da'jean. Honestly, Paisa's are a special breed, and I got tired of fucking with them. These are not girls; these are hoes! They belong to the streets. Let's all treat them as such. I've been visiting Da'jean since 2013, Bro!! Shit was off the chain back then! Now casa hoes are ugly and / or provide shitty mechanical service and have the nerve to ask for a tip. Charge crazy amounts for extra. Off to the next Colombian city that I will never disclose in this forum. LOL! I rant about guys ruining the market because I have seen it with my own eyes. I literally overhear hoes talking about up charging a stupid new gringo. This is all a recent phenomenon.

Have you guys ever heard the term Puebliado? 1000 cool points for you if you know what it means. LOL.

[QUOTE=MoonShot;2847634]You can't compete with a guy sending a girl a monthly allowance BUT there are plenty of other girls in Medellin. What you can do is move on to other girls. All this talk about guys ruining the market in Medellin is a bit too much. There are plenty of girls in Medellin. Some are priced very high due to their ability to attract guys willing to pay the amount requested but others do not have the luxury of waiting for guys to accept their terms. I have been visiting Medellin a few times now, and I've never had issues with finding young attractive girls for a reasonable price. Now I do encounter a few girls here and there asking for much more than I am willing to pay but I just say it is too much and move on to the next girl. I don't agonize about that particular girl and our inability to agree to terms. There are plenty of girls to chose from.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2847656]Yes sir. I know there are plenty of girls in Da'jean. Honestly, Paisa's are a special breed, and I got tired of fucking with them. These are not girls; these are hoes! They belong to the streets. Let's all treat them as such. I've been visiting Da'jean since 2013, Bro!! Shit was off the chain back then! Now casa hoes are ugly and / or provide shitty mechanical service and have the nerve to ask for a tip. Charge crazy amounts for extra. Off to the next Colombian city that I will never disclose in this forum. LOL! I rant about guys ruining the market because I have seen it with my own eyes. I literally overhear hoes talking about up charging a stupid new gringo. This is all a recent phenomenon.

Have you guys ever heard the term Puebliado? 1000 cool points for you if you know what it means. LOL.[/QUOTE]So now it's the'jean? Got to learn a whole new lingo. I'll pass on the 1,000 points too. Don't hang in the same circles but that's ok. We all run with our own packs.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2847629]You are talking about bottom feeders, dirt poor girls, drug addicts, often with kids, living in a shack and trying to make ends meet every day. Most of the girls that I meet don't have MBA degree, but are in a much better position in life. Currently attending college or having a job, living in better neighborhoods, etc. Some are more fortunate because they get supported by parents. We are talking about different categories of girls.[/QUOTE]Do you write plots for Disney? Maybe The Hallmark Channel?

I'm talking about prostitutes. Women who exchange sex for cash or other things of monetary value. I'm not talking about a Disney Princess or any other fantasy.

"Hey dad! I'm going out tonight to fuck a gringo for money. Could you give me 300 mil so I can get my hair and nails done and buy a new outfit? Thanks! Don't worry. I know I've got a test tomorrow in my biomedical engineering class. I'll be home by 11. Love ya!" Sure must be nice to have such understanding, financially secure parents.

The girls you see, the girls everyone sees, almost every single time, come from poor families with no resources and too many kids. There's not a large pool of middle and upper class girls, enrolled in university, seeing an occasional gringo on the side, to pay for their yacht anchored in Mallorca.

There are however, many girls who will tell any lie to convince the gullible guys, who can't speak the language, they deserve to get paid more.

Go to her place, in the "better neighborhood. " It's either not in a better neighborhood, or she's sharing it with several other hookers (who will probably get thrown out soon because they aren't responsible enough with their money to pay the rent. Go to her university. Check out her class schedule.

Unfortunately, most guys went through that phase of believing everything the hookers told us. But then we learned some Spanish, started paying attention and simply did the math.

Some prostitutes are smarter than others. They realize that PT Barnum was absolutely correct. A sucker is born every minute and a whole bunch of them have US Passports.

[QUOTE=Medclubber;2846681]Sorry this is just a bunch of nonsense. There's a huge amount of videos on youtube of the centro girls. If you can point me out some really hotties, 8-9-10's I'll buy you a beer LOL. 98% of those girls are just frikking ugly in my book. There are some doables there for sure but for hot girls you just need to go to different venues like Loutron or La Isla and pay up.[/QUOTE]Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. *Shrug*.