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[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1307250]Forgot to mention costs were both around 2200 baht for each place.[/QUOTE]Written like this, costs are pretty irrelevant. 2200 can be either a good or a bad deal:
If 1 hour Oil = 400+1500 = 1900.
If 1. 5 hr Oil = 600+1500 = 2100.
If 2 hour Oil = 800+1500 = 2300.
Your 2200 sits right in the middle.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1307526]Written like this, costs are pretty irrelevant. 2200 can be either a good or a bad deal:
If 1 hour Oil = 400+1500 = 1900.
If 1. 5 hr Oil = 600+1500 = 2100.
If 2 hour Oil = 800+1500 = 2300.
Your 2200 sits right in the middle.[/QUOTE]I think what is really the good deal is that you get the provider for the same tip money. And I don't understand why they do it this way.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1307526]Written like this, costs are pretty irrelevant. 2200 can be either a good or a bad deal:
If 1 hour Oil = 400+1500 = 1900.
If 1. 5 hr Oil = 600+1500 = 2100.
If 2 hour Oil = 800+1500 = 2300.
Your 2200 sits right in the middle.[/QUOTE]1. 5 for 2200 for both oilies. I hardly pay attention much to the exact costs or pricing structure. I mean if its a few extra baht, i'll opt for the 1.5 hour over 1 hour. I just cut to the chase of how much the full meal deal is going to cost and never really pay attention how long I'm there, usually I'm busy so if its less than the full amount of time, I'm happy to leave. But fwiw, the price I paid is standard for the most part. One thing that annoys me is they always bring out the stupid photo album when the girls are right there, I just tell them bring out the lineup, those pics are never accurate!!!!
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1307331]Holy BatMaN!
You are the one responsible for the increase in prices. LOL. You know that extra 200 baht is a daily wage for some. LOL.
I think I just saw a farang pay short time 3000 for a very pretty girl with a chest flat as a pancake! Wasnt sure if girl went down upon further negotiations- I highky doubt it though.[/QUOTE]LOL. I was talking with a girl, I think it was Dollhouse at Soi Cowboy. The girl had gorgeous face, but no tits, she told me she had a lucky guy from Denmark who sent her 50K bahts per month! I don't know how they do it! No wonder you don't see many hot girls working at Tesco Lotus 55555
Nataree.
Location: 167/17-20 Ratchadaphisek Road Ding Daeng. Directions: catch Skytrain to Huai Kwang station. Take Exit 3. Ahead of you, is an Emmanuelle sign on the side of a building. Walk towards it and past it. You will see Nataree sign. There are two entrances. Take the one on the right.
You enter into an open area where the sideliners are. I arrived in the late afternoon. There were about 50 sidelinders, most on the first bench very anxious to catch my eye, their price 2300-2500 bts, with about ten men sitting around drinking beer but just watching, but I understood these girls were more on looks than ability to fuck, so I passed them by to get to the fishbowl. These were all 2000 bts (for two hours). Only four ladies there. I chose 95, a Thai in her early 20s, slim, nice body.
She couldn't speak any English. We went upstairs to the nominated room. Once in there, she started the bath and switched on the TV. Every now and then she glanced at it. I thought this is a little strange. I laid down on the foam mattress for the soapie. She started on my right side, with her half on me and off me, going up and down. It was a nightmare. She went so fast and hard. And then she switched to the other side and the same. And then she used her hand at my tackle. Too much! I grabbed her hand, no English, so I tried to show her to slow down. It didn't make any difference. It was as if I was a rubber doll, with no feeling, and she was Russian boss: you vil have this! I escaped and suggested we move to the bed. To keep her at bay, I went for doggie, and looking at the mirror side on, and her beautifully shaped body, I soon came. Afterwards, she laid down beside me, making no contact, every now and then glancing at the TV. I thought this is a waste of time, got up and dressed and left after about an hour.
I mentioned something to the boss as I left but he didn't seem too interested. I suppose he has so many customers, he doesn't care.
In retrospect, maybe I should have tried one of the sideliners who were clearly interested. They couldn't have been worse than my choice. I think my choice was actually a little strange in the head. The lack of perception of feeling on her part was not normal.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1307560]1. 5 for 2200 for both oilies. I hardly pay attention much to the exact costs or pricing structure. I mean if its a few extra baht, I'll opt for the 1. 5 hour over 1 hour. I just cut to the chase of how much the full meal deal is going to cost and never really pay attention how long I'm there [/QUOTE]So you paid 2, 200 for 90 minutes All inc.
This is very interesting and shows that, while the all "inclusive model" is the way most soapies will go to (in the 33, 24, 24/1, 26 area) , it looks as if they will increase the prices a bit.
90mn should be 600 thb for oil and when you add the 1500 of Special (FS) it is 2, 100. If they package it 2, 200 then I doubt they give the girl 1600, they most probably pocket an extra 100 for themselves.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1308052]Most girls don't care what you think. They are not your girlfriend. You are just a peace of meat to them.
The days of getting a decent massage by a pretty girl is over. The pretty ones want 2k or have nothing to do with you.[/QUOTE]The purpose of the massage is to make you have an erection, so that you will want to fuck. If you want a full massage, then go to a place that specializes in massage only, without any extras.
The lady is there to fuck you and not to give you a professional massage.
And if you want the lady to show some interest in you, then you've got to show some interest in her too. This kind of thing is a two-way street.
During her massage on you you should masturbate her pussy with your hand, whenever you can reach it. And you can provide feedback to her by masturbating her pussy about as hard as she is masturbating your cock. This way, if she is too rough with her hand on your cock, then she will feel the same roughness from your hand on her pussy. She will understand that you are providing feedback for her, and she will slow down to make it more comfortable for you.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1308032]So you paid 2, 200 for 90 minutes All inc.
This is very interesting and shows that, while the all "inclusive model" is the way most soapies will go to (in the 33, 24, 24/1, 26 area) , it looks as if they will increase the prices a bit.
90mn should be 600 thb for oil and when you add the 1500 of Special (FS) it is 2, 100. If they package it 2, 200 then I doubt they give the girl 1600, they most probably pocket an extra 100 for themselves.[/QUOTE]Quite a few establishments have upped the prices beyond the 400 (1h).600 (1. 5h).800 (2h) THB pricing structure.
What used to be 2hr outcall service for 1000B is now something you might pay for 2hr incall service instead.
Not to mention some who would charge more based on the rooms that you choose (shower room vs tub vs jacuzzi, etc)
[QUOTE=Dan7373; 1308217]The purpose of the massage is to make you have an erection, so that you will want to fuck. If you want a full massage, then go to a place that specializes in massage only, without any extras.
The lady is there to fuck you and not to give you a professional massage.[/QUOTE]And if you try as hard as you can to avoid getting a boner, you'll notice how frustrated they are and focus more and more on the "area" in question to see if they can make something happen. Then comes the obligatory spiel."you want happy? 500 hand and 1500 boomboom." or something like that.
Sometimes. Trolling can be oh so hard. When they are very good at their "job".
Guys that go to a "Special" MP and want massage only, are completely arseholes and deserve to be shot. Girls that do super massage and super sex do exist but rather rare. My favourite is this category has retired already. If I go to an MP it is clear in my mind I don't care about the massage, I want sex play for a very large portion of the session time. Erotic massage just as a turn on is O.K., specially using tits, bottom, mouth and pussy to do the massage.
Honestly, its very quiet in Bangkok right now (even though its not that hot) , and girls are really struggling with their financial problems. Girls do NOT make any money from giving you just a massage. Its purely wasting their time and energy when they could be having a "special" paying customer. If you guys want to pay for full sex but only take massage, okay go ahead. If you want to pay for only massage then don't be so selfish, and go to a Spa, that doesn't do specials. This is why many sex MPs are switching to pay full inclusive price downstairs so the girls cannot be ripped off by idiot customers.
Right now most of the top girls are not that busy so its easy to get a booking with a stunner. No need to screw plain Janes right now, unless out of sympathy for their financial struggle.
I have been visiting just my regular looker girls at Pink, EZ, Angel, etc. So I won't bore you with repeat reports. Have reported those girls before. Even at Sheba bar (Cowboy) I took one of my regular dynamic duo combinations for a "licking" marathon, so unfortunately haven't tried any new girl recently.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1308032]This is very interesting and shows that, while the all "inclusive model" is the way most soapies will go to (in the 33, 24, 24/1, 26 area) , it looks as if they will increase the prices a bit.[/QUOTE]"soapies"? In these Sois they are normally called "Oilies" I think. Mental block from too much sex?
In the old days, most of the "soapies" used to have body slide lubricated with special liquid that made a lot of "soapy" suds. Although most of the sudsy body slides have disappeared, the girls still use a fair amount of liquid soap in the bath time. However "soapies" seems to be somewhat of a mis-nomer these days. The Thai name Aap-Op-Nuat means "wash clean, heat / steam, and massage. Sometimes refered to as "Turkish" baths but I am not aware of whether they are really turkish style at all.
[quote=travelleur; 1307901]nataree.
she couldn't speak any english. we went upstairs to the nominated room. once in there, she started the bath and switched on the tv. every now and then she glanced at it. i thought this is a little strange. i laid down on the foam mattress for the soapie. she started on my right side, with her half on me and off me, going up and down. it was a nightmare. she went so fast and hard. and then she switched to the other side and the same. and then she used her hand at my tackle. too much! i grabbed her hand, no english, so i tried to show her to slow down. it didn't make any difference. it was as if i was a rubber doll, with no feeling, and she was russian boss: you vil have this! i escaped and suggested we move to the bed. to keep her at bay, i went for doggie, and looking at the mirror side on, and her beautifully shaped body, i soon came. afterwards, she laid down beside me, making no contact, every now and then glancing at the tv. i thought this is a waste of time, got up and dressed and left after about an hour.[/quote]i don't recommend nataree, for the simple reason that they have a lot of new girls on a steep debt contract, that have little experience and poor training. even some girls with years of experience may do body slides very badly. body slide can be fantastic if the girl has a good soft body, and she has the knowledge of how to move slowly and gently. it can be incredibly erotic and it can be crap. i agree that telling girls to slow down just doesn't work. they have only one speed gear.
i would suggest you try body slide at chao praya ii on north side of sri ayuthaya road (east most end) in pratu naam. find the cheer-lady (mamasan) anne, very short and dumpy, say you want a very soft and slow body slide, not an agressive girl, and she should be able to recommend an expert artisan. if she has recommended a fantastic girl, you should tip the mamasan after the session. unfortunately i can't recommend a particular girl. all my favourites have long retired. warning. most of the current body slide girls are not that slim and usually have big tits. finding a slim girl to give expert body-slide is not so easy. could also try emanuelle which has just a few body slide girls. not sure if plaza still has body slide girls. cupidy does but its a rip-off joint. darling has too but girls often not good looking. try at annies maybe.
even better, have multiple body slide sessions with different girls till you find one that sends you absolutely to heaven. it could be the first one though.
as a service to the forum, if i find a really top body-slide girl, i will report back with name and number.
[QUOTE=Dan7373;1308217]The purpose of the massage is to make you have an erection, so that you will want to fuck. If you want a full massage, then go to a place that specializes in massage only, without any extras.[/QUOTE]The best place for a non-erotic [b]original[/b] Thai massage is in the what Pho temple. But you will not get a 1 hour massage for 100 baht there. Any massage establishment that offers such cheap massages will make it s money from "extras".
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1309008]"soapies"? In these Sois they are normally called "Oilies" I think. Mental block from too much sex?[/QUOTE]Yeah, LOL, I meant to say Oilies