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If you miss her so much, why not take a few days and go to Singapore to see her. If she is working in the day time, you can see her after work.

[QUOTE=Fredlena]What do think of that? Am I under TG hypnotism? Am I a smooth heart? Did you live same experience?
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Yes, yes and no.

Forget about her, there are hundreds just like her in all of Bangkok.
No, this never happened to me because in a P4P situation, I like that things are clear: I pay for sex, not a relationship.
If the girl is nice and very attentive, it's a bonus but I usually don't repeat often to avoid getting too comfortable with 1 girl.

Just try some other ones ;)

[QUOTE=Csun213]If you miss her so much, why not take a few days and go to Singapore to see her. If she is working in the day time, you can see her after work.[/QUOTE]Yes, I thought about doing that but I ask her to give me a way to contact her in Singapore and even tell her I would like to go andsee her.

She repplies me she don't where she will be, don't know if she will have a phone or be able to get internet.

Am I beggining to open eyes or maybe she don't want me to see her "at work"? Or she wants to cut relation because she knows we can not ahave future together and want to keep chance to find an husband?

Fred

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Yes, yes and no.

Forget about her, there are hundreds just like her in all of Bangkok.

No, this never happened to me because in a P4P situation, I like that things are clear: I pay for sex, not a relationship.

If the girl is nice and very attentive, it's a bonus but I usually don't repeat often to avoid getting too comfortable with 1 girl.

Just try some other ones ;)[/QUOTE]Thank you

Maybe I felt comfortable with her because we never speak about money (but I gave some); next time I will be clear, speak about money (because girl is with me for money).

I think I have to be a little more rude, remembering I am with a girl in P4P situation and just think about my pleasure.

I will try to forget about her and have good time, even if I think I will try to see her again in the future (for relationship)

My therapy is begginning, thank you

Fred

Maybe best to try what Nic suggests and see if you dont feel better after. ;)

I personally do not repeat very often for same reasons. Life is good..

break you heart!

sounds like you need to.

these girls fuck men for money. they want money. they all dream about finding a sponser, someone willing to give her money on a regular basis so she can pick and choose other customers and not be desperate.

presently she is playing with you.

not asking for anything, but letting you know if she has no money, she has to work and you might not be able to see her.

these are the dangerous ones.

make a choice.

either forget her and move on.

or realise its "pay 4 play" and you will only pay when you play. let her know that she can go work and you will find someone else. simply tell her "ok, have a good time in singapore and might see you if you are back, if not then maybe next year".

this will let her know where she stands. she can choose to be a long term friend with you, or she will forget you and move to find a real mug punter willing to sponser her.

[quote=fredlena]my last trip in bkk was 1st week of april (i go in bkk 4 times a year since 2 years for 1 week stay).

began with some st, going in beergarden (catch bee, see report and pics previous report), get some other girls in the street bar late in the night, going to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]’s, sol and eden club.

the 3rd day, i was having a drink in the afternoon outside new wave soi 7, looking at people and girls.

a small group of girls was seating not far from me, eating as usual, making up for the night, etc.

one of them, named may, was looking a lot to me but seemed not very shy but not pushy at all.

she began to speak to me, usual question, what are you doing, how long do you stay, etc.

we decided to go to my room, never asking how long, never speak about money

very good sex party, very nice body, very gfe.

she has 2 girls, she supports only her daughters and sometimes help brother and parents.

i (we? ) fall like in love, we stayed together 6 days till the end of my holidays, we did a lot of things, shopping, bars, pool bar, spice club, restaurants, meeting her friends. etc.

i felt like to be integrated to her life and her surroundings, every girl in soi 7 and soi 5 was knowing me as her farang bf, very kind with me when i was alone (when she was going to see her daughters 2 hours every 2 days).

a very good moment that put me deep in bg lifestyle and way of living. i felt like i was living there for a long time.

i repeat i spend very very good time with her.

if i was not married, i would think of keeping her but.

she is very lucid, saying me she can not wait for me, need to work, doing what she has to do (and what she wants to do, because as she said, it’s not a willing but a need to do what she do), she said always to me she is a bad girl (for me, she is a really good girl but doing a bad girl work);

she well sees the things, knowing living together is impossible, can not wait for me, never speaking about future because she said she can not know how tomorrow will be she said to me we will stay friend and stay in contact and meet each other maybe one day. our life are to different to be together one day

she scared me telling me what kind of guy she met and what some of them were treating her.

at the end, i had to go back home, but we stayed in contact by email, phone or sms about every 2 days till today. sometimes i was regretting to have not done more with other girls and stayed too long and exclusively with her but it was so great with her.

i precise i gave her some money and buy a lot of things but she never ask me any amount, always thanking me a lot when i pay present or give money at the end of my stay.

since my departure (it was just before the last evenements in april), she told me that bkk is very quite, nobody there, nothing to do and. no chance winning money; she said a friend of her wants to go to singapore to try better business, she planned to go there in may 20th.

i try to persuade her to stay in bkk till my next trip (june 15th for 1 week) and go later in singapore if she wants. i promise her to give money but she never ask me for.

last week, she was still in bkk, and doesn’t know when she leave. i have to say i was hoping she stay till my arrival.(selfish)

but today. breakdown! she call me to say she is leaving tonight and she is so sorry not waiting for me. i tried to keep her in bkk but decision was taken and i imagine she called me at the last moment for not changing her mind

i am so sad and disappointed; i am just near to cancel my next trip planned in 2 weeks.

i hope i will have some news of her, she promise me to give me some and call me when she come back in bkk but she thinks it will not be before 1 or 2 months. she said to me to enjoy my next holidays and hope to see me one day.

i have now to make some new plans for my next stay: eden, tulip, sol. and bg like her.

it is too much new to feel good with my next trip but i think i will go there and enjoy bkk life as usual but i am afraid i will always think of her when i will go in places we used to go together.

but, i know when i will be there i will enjoy and maybe if i was with her, i will regret one day to refrain from going with other girl and having good time. maybe i would be cut in 2. now, things are clear, i will have no regret and i hope i will see her in a few months.

i have to say that i hope she will not feel good in singapore and she will come back earlier (when she know i am in bkk and able to help her); but if not, i will have good time.

what do think of that? am i under tg hypnotism? am i a smooth heart? did you live same experience?

i must apology for 2 things:

-english is not my native language so i hope you will understand how i feel.

-very long and maybe not clear post, but i really needed to write this (like a therapy)

fred

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AndyBKK,

Good planning but it's nice one has money but you forgot something for your kid? Are you going to pick who your son or daughter is going to marry?

Mosquito2002, on a more serious note. Just like myself you have a child with due citizenship. The difference between you and me is that you have the bucks. When it comes to education I just knew sooner or later you are going to need this guys regardless of how negative many of you feel about his views. I highly suggest you contact " OldThaiHand " about the education system and what type of school there are in Thailand that would meet your goals.

You have also been criticized for not maybe spending time with her which is true and 100% important. But since your wife is Thai, personally I think where she comes from and what type of mother she is going to be is so very important but only you can answer that! If your wife isn't a hands on wife and mother and you don't plan on being around and she is going to be one of those rich little girls being care for by others like in the Thai soap's then you want to consider sending her away to the states to a top private boarding school to give her the best education possible. When you contact OTH, and find out your options on education in Thailand that would be a start. Regardless, in the end if you want to send her to a top school in the U.S. you better make sure whatever school credits in Thailand are going to be excepted in the U.S. colleges without her having to backtrack.

Go to the Thai Women Opinion etc... that where OTH, hangs out the most..

For myself, I'm limited in funds so my son will grow up in Thailand and the best I can hope for is that he grows up to be a good kid with ethics, values and honest and not afraid to work hard like his Papa.

Good luck, LBM

Ok,

Seems there are some guys here falling deep into the pussy trap.

The Pro has hit the nail on the head, don't confuse sex workers with girlfriends. Ok, some (the smart ones) they may not ask directly for cash, they know we have hearts though and so it pains us to hear of their struggle etc etc etc. What do we do, give them money anyway and feel good that it was our choice and that they did not ASK for it.

These are the dangerous ones, when you drop your guard and they get under your skin.

Guys, go to Thailand, have fun, treat the girls well, don't be rude, arrogant or any other form of a ****, but enjoy the experience for what it is. Beautiful girls who know how to make you feel good, feel special. In the end, give them some cash, you go home and they find the next 'mark'. Everyone wins.

Do NOT, come home and PINE about a bargirl who is calling you between sessions of sucking cock for money.

Now this may be over simplified and I'm sure there are a few exceptions (although not around sukhumvit, patpong, nana cowboy, Pattaya, phuket etc), but if it helps, try and remember this phrase. "Good Thai Women Fall For Good Thai Men".

Peace,

Pompoy

Mosquito: I sympathise with your situation but, really, why would you ask a question about the proper upbringing of your child on a board dedicated to ***prostitution***.

[QUOTE=Mosquito2002]Have a 8 month old, Thai / Farang daughter that is 8 months old.

Honestly, all I'm concerned about is her education and long term prospects.

I'm fairly well so, don't care how much it cost for her education.....what are my options???

Then, after her education what would I require to ensure her future employment.

Understand the primilary education is cheap (by Western Standards), I'm just looking for the $$$$$ that'll be required to ensure she gets a good paying job aftrer her education!!! Right not I'm planning on a 1-2 million baht pay-off!!

Pay-off depending on if she's really capable of handling the job!!!

Any recommendations on planning a new borns future??
Especially, if the new born if half Thai/half fanrang with no plans of moving/relocating to the U.S..
I'd even take recommendation of sending her to the states for her education, as she's an only child and money is not object (with in reason (standard U.S. college cost).




Mosquito2002[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nocal]Maybe best to try what Nic suggests and see if you dont feel better after. ;)

I personally do not repeat very often for same reasons. Life is good..[/QUOTE]
I think many, if not most of us have had similar experiences. Mine occurred when I was much younger and had not yet developed the same attitude expressed by Nic. These girls are, after all, human beings, and we react to their humanity when we meet those who are compassionate, fun, and apparently honest with us.

I think it's important though to recognize this for what it is: a one-off good time that was an opportunity to spend some quality moments with someone who, for whatever reason, touched you. There are many such moments in life and this was but one of them.

I'm older now, more interested in my own emotional survival and I've developed an attitude and approach that's more akin to Nic's. I enjoy the company if it's good, and the sex, if it's good, but I never forget that this is, au fond (at heart) a commercial situation.

GE

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]I think many, if not most of us have had similar experiences. Mine occurred when I was much younger and had not yet developed the same attitude expressed by Nic. These girls are, after all, human beings, and we react to their humanity when we meet those who are compassionate, fun, and apparently honest with us.

I think it's important though to recognize this for what it is: a one-off good time that was an opportunity to spend some quality moments with someone who, for whatever reason, touched you. There are many such moments in life and this was but one of them.

I'm older now, more interested in my own emotional survival and I've developed an attitude and approach that's more akin to Nic's. I enjoy the company if it's good, and the sex, if it's good, but I never forget that this is, au fond (at heart) a commercial situation.

GE[/QUOTE]

OH come on guys. Give the guy a break. I'm positive that if you've mongered enough, that we've all had a few girls that we clicked well with and that we keep in touch with that is more then a commercial transaction. I'm not talking about getting daily updates and such, but girls we see every now and then or when we are in town just for the good feelings and enjoyment.

Currently I have a few that I can ring up for just good sex, no money issues, just slip them some money to help them out if the want it, but money is never discussed and is not the issue, just good feeling and friendship. Hell there are four in BKK that I can call up and all four are married or with sponsors that will still get out and screw me for just old times sake and enjoyment and never take a baht, they even pay for the short time room or I go to their condo paid for by their sponsors / husbands ;) . I gotta love you sponsors out there, you make it so easy for some of us :D

And I'm sure most of you folks have the same thing. Even Nic, I'm sure the cold harted bastard that he is has a few girls that will SMS him at times that he'll jump on and hump every once in a while just for the sport of it :D

So what's the problem with the guy keeping in touch with her and enjoying her. Let her do her life and work the bar scene and such and he can still enjoy time with her when he's around. It sounds like she was very realistic to him and didn't play a massive game on him, he just needs not to fall head over heels and leave his family or life for her. Just enjoy her as a good sex friend and that's that.

EDIT: I never understood this not repeat thing. The best sex comes after the first few times. When you are more comfortable with each other and know what each other like. If it is good the first time go in for more and really enjoy it. And that leads to many freebie and out of work encounters if you repeat.

[QUOTE=Fredlena]Yes, I thought about doing that but I ask her to give me a way to contact her in Singapore and even tell her I would like to go andsee her.

She repplies me she don't where she will be, don't know if she will have a phone or be able to get internet.

Fred[/QUOTE]

We can tell you where you can find her in Singapore...maybe just browse on the relevant forum on Geylang and to see the locations
Good chances you bump into her..
Honestly..give yourself a kick and forget her

[QUOTE=Artful]Mosquito: I sympathise with your situation but, really, why would you ask a question about the proper upbringing of your child on a board dedicated to ***prostitution***.[/QUOTE]

To an ISG novice at first glance, your point would be understandable but to any regular 1SG viewer/contributor his question would be quite fitting. The conversations here sometimes explores real estate options, investments, marriage counseling, retirement options, medical and dental solutions, politics and a host of other real-world issues. Therefore, I'd say this board expands way beyond the narrow scope of only discussing prostitution and at times does provide some viable solutions to member's life queries.

[QUOTE=Bionicman]We can tell you where you can find her in Singapore...maybe just browse on the relevant forum on Geylang and to see the locations.

Good chances you bump into her.

Honestly..give yourself a kick and forget her[/QUOTE]After 2 days and reading post. I will not go to Singapore, give myself a kick, enjoy P4P in BKK, not stay to long with girl (even good in brain) except sex bomb. But not forget her, just keep her in my memory and maybe meet her again in the future when I will go to my usual spots. I will not run after her

Fred

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]OH come on guys. Give the guy a break. I'm positive that if you've mongered enough, that we've all had a few girls that we clicked well with and that we keep in touch with that is more then a commercial transaction. I'm not talking about getting daily updates and such, but girls we see every now and then or when we are in town just for the good feelings and enjoyment.

Currently I have a few that I can ring up for just good sex, no money issues, just slip them some money to help them out if the want it, but money is never discussed and is not the issue, just good feeling and friendship. Hell there are four in BKK that I can call up and all four are married or with sponsors that will still get out and screw me for just old times sake and enjoyment and never take a baht, they even pay for the short time room or I go to their condo paid for by their sponsors / husbands ;) . I gotta love you sponsors out there, you make it so easy for some of us :D

And I'm sure most of you folks have the same thing. Even Nic, I'm sure the cold harted bastard that he is has a few girls that will SMS him at times that he'll jump on and hump every once in a while just for the sport of it :D

So what's the problem with the guy keeping in touch with her and enjoying her. Let her do her life and work the bar scene and such and he can still enjoy time with her when he's around. It sounds like she was very realistic to him and didn't play a massive game on him, he just needs not to fall head over heels and leave his family or life for her. Just enjoy her as a good sex friend and that's that.

EDIT: I never understood this not repeat thing. The best sex comes after the first few times. When you are more comfortable with each other and know what each other like. If it is good the first time go in for more and really enjoy it. And that leads to many freebie and out of work encounters if you repeat.[/QUOTE]I keep her phone number, see her when she is in BKK, having sex and good time with her but not plan to leave my life and I confirm she is realistic and realy don't seem to play a lot with me. During 2 months, never ask for money, decided a long time ago to go to Singapore. When she said she's at the airport, I said her to stay and I send immediately money but she didn't say yes, she said no. I really think she is honnest with me but has to drive her life without any help of MR.