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[QUOTE=BaltiX;2973402]Which Nordic country was it?[/QUOTE]Hate to call you out but all your posts in this thread are questions, no information shared.
For example, here's your reply to Steve: "The sex scene in Milan is better than you think, but like many places you have to know the right websites. I guess the lack of popularity in ISG makes it more difficult than more popular cities. ".
So what are the right websites in Milan?
[QUOTE=NoBuglyFitches;2973723]Hate to call you out but all your posts in this thread are questions, no information shared.
For example, here's your reply to Steve: "The sex scene in Milan is better than you think, but like many places you have to know the right websites. I guess the lack of popularity in ISG makes it more difficult than more popular cities. ".
So what are the right websites in Milan?[/QUOTE]I admit I'm not activate on any sugaring website, just want some info for future reference. For Milan (and Italy in general) there are many websites, but the best ones from what I could found:
EscortForumit ([URL]https://www.escortforumit.xxx[/URL]).
TantraLux ([URL]https://tantralux.com/[/URL]).
Escort Advisor ([URL]https://www.escort-advisor.com/[/URL]).
Moscarossa ([URL]https://www.moscarossa.biz/[/URL]).
Escort Inn ([URL]https://escortinn.com/[/URL]).
Massaggia Milano ([URL]https://www.massaggiamilano.it/[/URL]), this one is focused on erotic massage parlors, but many of them offer extras including FS.
There are 2 Italian forums for the local sex industry: Gnoccaforum and Punter Forum.
Hey everyone,
I haven't been here for years, so please forgive any unwitting breaches of rules or etiquette.
I got the dreaded warning that "your account has been suspended for breaching the rules (soliciting sex for money). Thankfully it was just a warning, and they let me back on after I had watched their videos about "what you must not do".
No mentioning sex. No mentioning "pay per meet".
I'm not sure if it was because my profile suggested that I was looking for a "compensated friendship with benefits", or that I "couldn't afford escort-level rates for your time" (the word "escort" triggering some filter).
Well, fellow users, what AM I allowed to say, to discuss our financial expectations of each other? I'm even too scared to say something as generic as "what are your expectations, financially?
Some girls, once we'd messaged each other, I'd ask if we can continue the discussion off-site. Some said yes; but others were wary and refused, and I don't completely blame them.
Any tips about how to negotiate the minefield of the rules as to "seeking's new direction"? Any tips on what I safely CAN say? Or how to smoothly move the conversation off-site?
It's a great question. I've been doing this for years and I've never been suspended. Here are the rules.
Never use trigger words. PPM, only fans, escort, etc. Speak in euphemisms like say a good time, a night together.
Never even discuss intimacy on the app. Think about it from their perspective. They are guarding against needing to defend that they are not a prostitution front. Choose language that supports that cause.
Always always discuss specifics on text or WhatsApp or telegram or snap. Anywhere but the seeking app. Just say can we continue this conversation on text. There are some girls who insist on discussing in seeking because they don't want to give out their contact information. I usually just say a number and for your company and then say we need to take it off-line to talk about specifics.
[QUOTE=ElijahB;2975459]Hey everyone. I haven't been here for years, so please forgive any unwitting breaches of rules or etiquette.
I got the dreaded warning that "your account has been suspended for breaching the rules (soliciting sex for money). Thankfully it was just a warning, and they let me back on after I had watched their videos about "what you must not do".
No mentioning sex. No mentioning "pay per meet".
I'm not sure if it was because my profile suggested that I was looking for a "compensated friendship with benefits", or that I "couldn't afford escort-level rates for your time" (the word "escort" triggering some filter).
Well, fellow users, what AM I allowed to say, to discuss our financial expectations of each other? I'm even too scared to say something as generic as "what are your expectations, financially?
Some girls, once we'd messaged each other, I'd ask if we can continue the discussion off-site. Some said yes; but others were wary and refused, and I don't completely blame them.[/QUOTE]
Hi bros,
I have been chatting to Flowergirl and Lizelle. Flowergirl looked better in pics than Lizelle. Can any bro help me out by sharing a recent review if you have tried out both. How are they and who is better (in service and hygiene) at same price?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=ElijahB;2975459]Hey everyone,
I haven't been here for years, so please forgive any unwitting breaches of rules or etiquette.
I got the dreaded warning that "your account has been suspended for breaching the rules (soliciting sex for money). Thankfully it was just a warning, and they let me back on after I had watched their videos about "what you must not do".
No mentioning sex. No mentioning "pay per meet".
I'm not sure if it was because my profile suggested that I was looking for a "compensated friendship with benefits", or that I "couldn't afford escort-level rates for your time" (the word "escort" triggering some filter).
Well, fellow users, what AM I allowed to say, to discuss our financial expectations of each other? I'm even too scared to say something as generic as "what are your expectations, financially?
Some girls, once we'd messaged each other, I'd ask if we can continue the discussion off-site. Some said yes; but others were wary and refused, and I don't completely blame them.
Any tips about how to negotiate the minefield of the rules as to "seeking's new direction"? Any tips on what I safely CAN say? Or how to smoothly move the conversation off-site?[/QUOTE]AmericanPi is spot on in his response. After some casual chat about nothing take her to WhatsApp. If she's not willing to go there just move on. Most girls understand the basic game plan here. Even in texting on WhatsApp there is no profit in asking girls PPM rates and generally treating her like an escort. The best girls will ghost right away if you make them feel at all like a pro. In Nampa (Japanese street pickup) they have a thing called Anti-**** defense. That is no girl wants to feel like a **** and you need to help her feel like this is not that.
My usual patter goes more or less like:
Let's plan to go out to dinner and drinks and if we vibe well we could spend some private time together. How does that sound for you?
Once they say yes you say "Of course I'the want to give you a gift / allowance at the end of the date. Did you have some amount in mind?
This is the same as saying "what ppm do you want if we fuck". You just don't say it that way!
Many girls don't want to let you contact them off the site unless they feel like you meet their criteria. If they want $600 an hour, but feel like you're the type of guy who would lowball them with $200, then it's a waste of their time to communicate. The best thing to do is open up with small talk. Let's say there's a photo of her below the Eiffel Tower. If you recognize a location from one of their pictures, you can say something like "I see you have been to Paris before. " Or you can ask if they have any pets. Just a brief, casual conversation. Once you've spent a bit of time chatting, they will be less reluctant to give you a way to contact them off the site. If they insist on discussing business on the site, then just move on to the next girl because she's likely a snob anyhow.
[QUOTE=ElijahB;2975459]Hey everyone,
I haven't been here for years, so please forgive any unwitting breaches of rules or etiquette.
I got the dreaded warning that "your account has been suspended for breaching the rules (soliciting sex for money). Thankfully it was just a warning, and they let me back on after I had watched their videos about "what you must not do".
No mentioning sex. No mentioning "pay per meet".
I'm not sure if it was because my profile suggested that I was looking for a "compensated friendship with benefits", or that I "couldn't afford escort-level rates for your time" (the word "escort" triggering some filter).
Well, fellow users, what AM I allowed to say, to discuss our financial expectations of each other? I'm even too scared to say something as generic as "what are your expectations, financially?
Some girls, once we'd messaged each other, I'd ask if we can continue the discussion off-site. Some said yes; but others were wary and refused, and I don't completely blame them.
Any tips about how to negotiate the minefield of the rules as to "seeking's new direction"? Any tips on what I safely CAN say? Or how to smoothly move the conversation off-site?[/QUOTE]
I renewed my Seeking membership recently, but that's it! I won't renew again. It's not just about the fakes, flakes, fraudsters, and scammers. We all know that's bad enough. But, it's also all of the girls with totally unrealistic expectations around here in this town. The absolute hottest ones want to extract $1,000 a meet without doing much of jack shit for that money! For their "time" (rolling eyes). There are plenty who will go for $300 to $500 per meet, but I tend to not be nearly as attracted to those girls, either due to their looks and / or age and / or ghetto attitude and behavior. They're not getting my money. None of them! I'll keep working it while I have an active membership looking for a jewel in a pile of shit, but once done I will be more than happy to stick with the straight up tutes. I can travel abroad and find what I want at far more favorable pricing and get exactly what I want in terms of services too (including anal sex) with no bullshit games and no gouging. Of course, there's the price of overseas travel right? Well, I was going to do that anyway, and now that I'm retired I have the time to go along with the money. I love to travel in the first place, and being able to combine that with hooring and wenching? Well, for me that's just having la pura vida! The good life! Goodbye Seeking and hey, hey mongering! Once my Seeking membership expires next time, I will probably just go ahead and delete my account. Tired of wasting my time, and won't blow my money on a bunch of greedy "softcore hoors"!
[QUOTE=ElijahB;2975459]
I got the dreaded warning that "your account has been suspended for breaching the rules (soliciting sex for money). Thankfully it was just a warning, and they let me back on after I had watched their videos about "what you must not do".
No mentioning sex. No mentioning "pay per meet".
I'm not sure if it was because my profile suggested that I was looking for a "compensated friendship with benefits", or that I "couldn't afford escort-level rates for your time" (the word "escort" triggering some filter).
Well, fellow users, what AM I allowed to say, to discuss our financial expectations of each other? I'm even too scared to say something as generic as "what are your expectations, financially?
[/QUOTE]I got banned also a few years ago. Now I use SDM, sugar daddy [URL]meet.com[/URL] which is 1/3 d of the price. I still get the same scammers, but not as much. I always use the word "intimacy" instead of sex. It sounds better. Sometimes PPM is ok. "friends with benefits" is good too. Some younger women still think / expect they will get $$ from you and not put out! LOL Others say they want $800. I say for that they would need to do a threesome and anal! Haha. And I hang up. These be-itches are getting professional on these sugar daddy sites since Craigslist got stopped.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2975766]I renewed my Seeking membership recently, but that's it! I won't renew again. It's not just about the fakes, flakes, fraudsters, and scammers. We all know that's bad enough. But, it's also all of the girls with totally unrealistic expectations around here in this town. The absolute hottest ones want to extract $1,000 a meet without doing much of jack shit for that money! For their "time" (rolling eyes). There are plenty who will go for $300 to $500 per meet, but I tend to not be nearly as attracted to those girls, either due to their looks and / or age and / or ghetto attitude and behavior. They're not getting my money. None of them! I'll keep working it while I have an active membership looking for a jewel in a pile of shit, but once done I will be more than happy to stick with the straight up tutes. I can travel abroad and find what I want at far more favorable pricing and get exactly what I want in terms of services too (including anal sex) with no bullshit games and no gouging. Of course, there's the price of overseas travel right? Well, I was going to do that anyway, and now that I'm retired I have the time to go along with the money. I love to travel in the first place, and being able to combine that with hooring and wenching? Well, for me that's just having la pura vida! The good life! Goodbye Seeking and hey, hey mongering! Once my Seeking membership expires next time, I will probably just go ahead and delete my account. Tired of wasting my time, and won't blow my money on a bunch of greedy "softcore hoors"![/QUOTE]While I could be assuming incorrectly, I'm guessing most of your experience on Seeking has been within the USA? If so, I felt the exact same way when I registered a few years ago. Which is why I never renewed until 2024. I NEVER had any luck with Seeking in the USA. But I've had amazing success outside of the USA. It's one of the few centralized places to find women. For example, you can find excellent girls on Apartado X in Portugal, but Apartado X does not work for Cyprus, France, Germany, or anywhere else in the world outside of Portugal and Spain. Same thing with Euro Girls Escort; it works for many part of the EU, but very few people use it in South America. Girls from all over the world use Seeking, partly due to all the media attention it used to get. And while I know there are scammers on there, I feel like many of the girls outside of the USA are legit. Hell, I feel like most of the scammers on there are ugly ass Nigerian men masquerading around as girls. And those types of idiots are far more likely to post ads in the USA; where they know men have money. You won't see a lot of Nigerian men posting scam ads for a place like Paraguay, because they know most Paraguayan men are impoverished and have no money to send them.
[QUOTE=VanessasClient;2975817]While I could be assuming incorrectly, I'm guessing most of your experience on Seeking has been within the USA? If so, I felt the exact same way when I registered a few years ago. Which is why I never renewed until 2024. I NEVER had any luck with Seeking in the USA. But I've had amazing success outside of the USA. It's one of the few centralized places to find women. For example, you can find excellent girls on Apartado X in Portugal, but Apartado X does not work for Cyprus, France, Germany, or anywhere else in the world outside of Portugal and Spain. Same thing with Euro Girls Escort; it works for many part of the EU, but very few people use it in South America. Girls from all over the world use Seeking, partly due to all the media attention it used to get. And while I know there are scammers on there, I feel like many of the girls outside of the USA are legit. Hell, I feel like most of the scammers on there are ugly ass Nigerian men masquerading around as girls. And those types of idiots are far more likely to post ads in the USA; where they know men have money. You won't see a lot of Nigerian men posting scam ads for a place like Paraguay, because they know most Paraguayan men are impoverished and have no money to send them.[/QUOTE]I have only used it in the USA. I have a big trip to Brazil coming up. I know Steve says he has had some amazing experiences using Seeking there. Have you (or anybody else here recently)? I have never felt the need to use it in a place like Brazil. I still have a few months left in my membership. Maybe it's just time to say good riddance to "gringaland" where the Nigerian men are scamming in overdrive!
[QUOTE=TheCane;2975766]I renewed my Seeking membership recently, but that's it! I won't renew again. It's not just about the fakes, flakes, fraudsters, and scammers. We all know that's bad enough. But, it's also all of the girls with totally unrealistic expectations around here in this town. The absolute hottest ones want to extract $1,000 a meet without doing much of jack shit for that money! For their "time" (rolling eyes). There are plenty who will go for $300 to $500 per meet, but I tend to not be nearly as attracted to those girls, either due to their looks and / or age and / or ghetto attitude and behavior. They're not getting my money. None of them! I'll keep working it while I have an active membership looking for a jewel in a pile of shit, but once done I will be more than happy to stick with the straight up tutes. I can travel abroad and find what I want at far more favorable pricing and get exactly what I want in terms of services too (including anal sex) with no bullshit games and no gouging. Of course, there's the price of overseas travel right? Well, I was going to do that anyway, and now that I'm retired I have the time to go along with the money. I love to travel in the first place, and being able to combine that with hooring and wenching? Well, for me that's just having la pura vida! The good life! Goodbye Seeking and hey, hey mongering! Once my Seeking membership expires next time, I will probably just go ahead and delete my account. Tired of wasting my time, and won't blow my money on a bunch of greedy "softcore hoors"![/QUOTE]If you do end up quitting seeking and only mongering can I politely request you not become one of those people that drops by periodically for no reason other than to say how stupid this is, how unrealistic the girls, how much it's changed, how much better it is doing something else.
Not that you would. But there is some pattern of people leaving this little hobby and then sour grapes it thereafter.
It's a choice. Nobody has to do this.
Best of luck to you. It sounds like your retirement is going to kick off with a bang. Or many. May we all follow in your footsteps. Share stories of your last hurrah.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2975830]I have only used it in the USA. I have a big trip to Brazil coming up. I know Steve says he has had some amazing experiences using Seeking there. Have you (or anybody else here recently)? I have never felt the need to use it in a place like Brazil. I still have a few months left in my membership. Maybe it's just time to say good riddance to "gringaland" where the Nigerian men are scamming in overdrive![/QUOTE]Just to be clear I have only scored once on Seeking in Rio as I am of sorta like minded. It's a candy store. I don't need Seeking really. But this seeking girl was total home run. $100 usd and a smokin hottie. Have seen her a total of 11 days this year in Rio SP and Barcelona.
The main reason for Seeking in Brasil is Sunday. It's a ghostown day. You really need a chica on the side for Sunday. You can get this on Seeking. You can also get this by locking up a Boate or clinics / terma girl. So it's not strictly necessary. But it's nice to have in your pocket. I scored Manu sat night about midnight for a Sunday 8 pm date.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2976010]Just to be clear I have only scored once on Seeking in Rio as I am of sorta like minded. It's a candy store. I don't need Seeking really. But this seeking girl was total home run. $100 usd and a smokin hottie. Have seen her a total of 11 days this year in Rio SP and Barcelona.
The main reason for Seeking in Brasil is Sunday. It's a ghostown day. You really need a chica on the side for Sunday. You can get this on Seeking. You can also get this by locking up a Boate or clinics / terma girl. So it's not strictly necessary. But it's nice to have in your pocket. I scored Manu sat night about midnight for a Sunday 8 pm date.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the clarification and suggestions. I think I will go with trying to hook up with a clinica or boate or termas girl on Sundays, or even just take a break. After going hard Monday thru Saturday sometimes I don't mind taking a break on Sunday. I do miss L'uomo though. It was the only termas in Rio I recall being open on Sundays. Changed my life. Forever. It was there on a Sunday of deep reflection that I decided to become a lifelong monger. A decision I do not regret.
I don't think anyone (you or her) should be thinking in terms of time other than something very general like "overnight. " You need to be speaking in terms of activities. Dinner, show, drinks, sightseeing, any or all of stuff like that. Agree to a price for a list of things that you want and let them tell you they are or are not comfortable with all that. If you're both thinking in terms of time, you're looking for a prostitute and she IS a prostitute. It's nuance but it is quite different from what sugarbaby is. The ones that are open to other activities are generally more open to GFE in my experience. You don't have to ask for it. You spend 3 or 4 hours doing whatever and if she's still around at the end of it she doesn't think you're a creep and mostly treats you like a normal guy and not a customer. What I'll do is offer some amount for a date and say there will be something extra if we get intimate at my place. That way she knows she's getting something and we both have an out. If she's not into you you probably don't want to bang her anyway and the only way to know that is do more than chat online.
[QUOTE=VanessasClient;2975665]If they want $600 an hour, but feel like you're the type of guy who would lowball them with $200, then it's a waste of their time to communicate. [/QUOTE]