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I think it best if we let Jackson move forward with the planned changes to all the Germany Forums. I believe that the new structure will be of benefit to all.

Personally I believe that the larger and more luxurious FKK / Sauna Clubs should be the main focus as these are the clubs which receive most visitors and are reported on the most. This is how all the main German, Dutch and French forums are more or less organised. Smaller clubs could be on a second page (or sub-page). This would lead to less confusion. But this is just my opinion. Jackson will have his own opinion and I'm sure his planned forum re-organisation will produce improvements.

[QUOTE=Optimist;1472325]BB I have the same problem. It is making the forum (whose structure already makes it difficult to extract information) even more impenetrable.[/QUOTE]I thought I was the only one who found this forum difficult to navigate.

I was wondering where I can find the most nordic lookin (blond blue eyes) German girls. I've heard Hamburg since it's close to Scandinavia. Is that true? If so, which clubs and houses do they usually work at there?

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1472561]I was wondering where I can find the most nordic lookin (blond blue eyes) German girls. I've heard Hamburg since it's close to Scandinavia. Is that true? If so, which clubs and houses do they usually work at there?[/QUOTE]Artemis is close to Poland with the blondies coming from there. Also many local German girls from Hamburg, Hanover and Brandenburg do their thing at Artemis because Berlin is easier to get to from those places.

In the NRW area, my experience is that Golden Time is probably the best representative of what you look for. Most other places are full of the same looking Romanians.

As an interesting statistic, I read that one in six Romanians work outside of Romania, mainly heading to Western European countries to find work. And that 80,000 Romanians work in the sex industry. That is like a whole generation that make the living from the pay for fucking. So you may think at some stage there is a high chance that if your mother was a Romanian in this period she used to work in this sex industry job.

With so many of the clubs now filling up with cheeky Romanian I pose the question. Where are all the tall blond Gazelles these days. I am on tour from October and like the German, Russian, Ukrainian leggy blonds. Which clubs would you recommend to find these women folk?.

[QUOTE=CheekyDancer;1472614]With so many of the clubs now filling up with cheeky Romanian I pose the question. Where are all the tall blond Gazelles these days. I am on tour from October and like the German, Russian, Ukrainian leggy blonds. Which clubs would you recommend to find these women folk?.[/QUOTE]Similar answer as given to Pussyliccer. From what I have seen the venues would be Golden Time in NRW area, Artemis in Berlin and Palace in Frankfurt.

The number is parenthesis is the (approx) number of rooms at the respective club. I remember faces very well, but bad with names (sorry). For me, as a rough idea on my taste, a 9.5 is Marie German from Cola in terms of looks. Service is important to me as well and prefer at least a 7.5 or 8 in service, but unless you try (or have a reliable source) the girl, it's difficult to gauge on service level. Needless to say, everyone will have different tastes in women and clubs, and these are just ranking based on my experiences in the 2nd week of September when I visited Germany. I was in Hessen, NRW, Augsburg, and Berlin. Didn't try Magnum or PHG or LR this time around. I could have skipped F39 to try PHG for sure.

Aca (5). Best overall value. Big and clean club. A lot of good looking girls between 8-9 range. No 10s, but two were a solid 9 IMHO. Grilled food was good.

GT (2). Clean & small club. Food is excellent. Lineup was okay to good and is similar to 6 month / 1 year ago. The club can be packed with more guys than girls and sometimes looks like a suasage factory. I think its the free alcohol, good food, and distance to the border that gets all the Dutch guys in. Nothing more to say, but still a top club in the NRW area.

Sharks (2). Clean & spacious sized club. Food is okay. Lineup was great on Sun and Sat. Daytime lineup I heard is bad.

Main (4). Clean & small club. Decent lineup. I have seen better lineup in Main and was a bit disappointed. Still managed 4 sessions but service on 2 of the sessions was just okay.

Artemis (4). Big & clean club. More clean than Oase. More pricey but it was good since it was my first time and there were a lot of choices. Long drive from Cola to Artemis though. Berlin is a cool city however. Very hip and young professionals type of city. Saw Nikki (German) ex-GT, she said she was let go from GT because of some politics with GT mgmt and Lisa of GT. Didn't bother with details. Too bad, I had intended to session with her again in GT and I always liked watching her ass as she made an entrance in GT main room from the changing rooms.

Cola (2). Clean and spacious club (pool is kinda the centerpiece, bit odd) , didn't try the food. Had Marie and a hot Chezh girl. Overall good club but a tiresome drive from Frankfurt. I may repeat however.

World (2). Big & clean club. Food good. I was disappointed in Sat lineup. This is my go to club on Sat usually. Instead, decided to head to Sharks late night and it was rocking.

Samya (0). Unclean club, small club with poor food. Lots of girls just sitting around. Some were good looking. No 9s or 10s. Went to the room with a Romanian who was 8. 5, but after 1 min in room she changed her story and said she only does covered BJ, so I just walked out and didn't pay. She said ok. I was going to complain but just decided to not waste my time and head to ACA. I have been to Samya before and have had a decent time. I still don't like the club as much because they charge similar entry prices and are not as good as other small clubs in comparison.

DV (0). Food okay. Clean club. Food ok. Quality of girls in terms of looks did not appeal to me. Looks are in 7s and 8s. 'Hyper' Bony was there requesting everyone to fuck her ass, definitely high. I don't think anyone did. Poor thing. I did no one, just left.

Fruede39 (1). Spacious club and food is okay. Parking is bad. Seems like a daytime club and had a decent no of punters. I had a bad experience at this club as I think it caters to mostly German speaking public. Getting in was not a problem, but I can see how a black guy could be rejected here. I am asian. Regardless, line up is typically 7s and maybe one or two 8s. The service is good from the girls however. They perform BBBJ in the main area on the couch before heading to room. If you speak German and you're a service oriented guy, then this is a good option for service perspective. I am pretty sure I would not repeat anyways. The drive to Bochum is not great & I think I got a ticket from a red light camera.

Overall, great trip. I enjoyed Germany as usual and its a much better value than Switz (Globe, Aprod, Bums, Life, etc).

Thanks for your extensive report JJForum61.

Will be interesting to see what is your taste: both in looks and service.

Since you rate Aca so high, what kind of girls did you go to the room with (German, Rumanian, Baltics, or other?). Aca has beautiful girls (like in Samya and GT) but most of the Rumanians one are offering very bad service (like in Samya and GT IMHO). In Freude39 you can find beautiful Romanian girls that offer good service (and even in Oase this ratio is still not as bad as in eg Samya, Aca or GT).

Do you consider DFK and BBBJ important? For instance German Marie is a real beauty, but does not kiss, and is not very intimate / passionate.

So all depends on personal taste, tell us your taste!

Very nice report JJForum61. For someone with so few reports and presumably little FKK experience you seem too click with most girls at ACA and receive good service.

Where as some experienced punters here are struggling to get decent service. Please share your insight?

[QUOTE=JJForum61; 1472921]The number is parenthesis is the (approx) number of rooms at the respective club. I remember faces very well, but bad with names (sorry). For me, as a rough idea on my taste, a 9. 5 is Marie German from Cola in terms of looks. Service is important to me as well and prefer at least a 7. 5 or 8 in service, but unless you try (or have a reliable source) the girl, it's difficult to gauge on service level. Needless to say, everyone will have different tastes in women and clubs, and these are just ranking based on my experiences in the 2nd week of September when I visited Germany. I was in Hessen, NRW, Augsburg, and Berlin. Didn't try Magnum or PHG or LR this time around. I could have skipped F39 to try PHG for sure.

Aca (5). Best overall value. Big and clean club. A lot of good looking girls between 8-9 range. No 10s, but two were a solid 9 IMHO. Grilled food was good.

GT (2). Clean & small club. Food is excellent. Lineup was okay to good and is similar to 6 month / 1 year ago. The club can be packed with more guys than girls and sometimes looks like a suasage factory. I think its the free alcohol, good food, and distance to the border that gets all the Dutch guys in. Nothing more to say, but still a top club in the NRW area.

Sharks (2). Clean & spacious sized club. Food is okay. Lineup was great on Sun and Sat. Daytime lineup I heard is bad.

Main (4). Clean & small club. Decent lineup. I have seen better lineup in Main and was a bit disappointed. Still managed 4 sessions but service on 2 of the sessions was just okay.

Artemis (4). Big & clean club. More clean than Oase. More pricey but it was good since it was my first time and there were a lot of choices. Long drive from Cola to Artemis though. Berlin is a cool city however. Very hip and young professionals type of city. Saw Nikki (German) ex-GT, she said she was let go from GT because of some politics with GT mgmt and Lisa of GT. Didn't bother with details. Too bad, I had intended to session with her again in GT and I always liked watching her ass as she made an entrance in GT main room from the changing rooms.

Cola (2). Clean and spacious club (pool is kinda the centerpiece, bit odd) , didn't try the food. Had Marie and a hot Chezh girl. Overall good club but a tiresome drive from Frankfurt. I may repeat however.

World (2). Big & clean club. Food good. I was disappointed in Sat lineup. This is my go to club on Sat usually. Instead, decided to head to Sharks late night and it was rocking.

Samya (0). Unclean club, small club with poor food. Lots of girls just sitting around. Some were good looking. No 9s or 10s. Went to the room with a Romanian who was 8. 5, but after 1 min in room she changed her story and said she only does covered BJ, so I just walked out and didn't pay. She said ok. I was going to complain but just decided to not waste my time and head to ACA. I have been to Samya before and have had a decent time. I still don't like the club as much because they charge similar entry prices and are not as good as other small clubs in comparison.

DV (0). Food okay. Clean club. Food ok. Quality of girls in terms of looks did not appeal to me. Looks are in 7s and 8s. 'Hyper' Bony was there requesting everyone to fuck her ass, definitely high. I don't think anyone did. Poor thing. I did no one, just left.

Fruede39 (1). Spacious club and food is okay. Parking is bad. Seems like a daytime club and had a decent no of punters. I had a bad experience at this club as I think it caters to mostly German speaking public. Getting in was not a problem, but I can see how a black guy could be rejected here. I am asian. Regardless, line up is typically 7s and maybe one or two 8s. The service is good from the girls however. They perform BBBJ in the main area on the couch before heading to room. If you speak German and you're a service oriented guy, then this is a good option for service perspective. I am pretty sure I would not repeat anyways. The drive to Bochum is not great & I think I got a ticket from a red light camera.

Overall, great trip. I enjoyed Germany as usual and its a much better value than Switz (Globe, Aprod, Bums, Life, etc).[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Maxime; 1473255]Thanks for your extensive report JJForum61.

Will be interesting to see what is your taste: both in looks and service.

Since you rate Aca so high, what kind of girls did you go to the room with (German, Rumanian, Baltics, or other?). Aca has beautiful girls (like in Samya and GT) but most of the Rumanians one are offering very bad service (like in Samya and GT IMHO). In Freude39 you can find beautiful Romanian girls that offer good service (and even in Oase this ratio is still not as bad as in eg Samya, Aca or GT).

Do you consider DFK and BBBJ important? For instance German Marie is a real beauty, but does not kiss, and is not very intimate / passionate.

So all depends on personal taste, tell us your taste![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JJForum61;1472921]Cola (2). Clean and spacious club (pool is kinda the centerpiece, bit odd) , didn't try the food. Had Marie and a hot Chezh girl. Overall good club but a tiresome drive from Frankfurt. I may repeat however.[/QUOTE]What club is that? I cannot understand that abbreviation. Colosseum?

[QUOTE=Maxime; 1473255]Thanks for your extensive report JJForum61.

Will be interesting to see what is your taste: both in looks and service.

Since you rate Aca so high, what kind of girls did you go to the room with (German, Rumanian, Baltics, or other?). Aca has beautiful girls (like in Samya and GT) but most of the Rumanians one are offering very bad service (like in Samya and GT IMHO). In Freude39 you can find beautiful Romanian girls that offer good service (and even in Oase this ratio is still not as bad as in eg Samya, Aca or GT).

Do you consider DFK and BBBJ important? For instance German Marie is a real beauty, but does not kiss, and is not very intimate / passionate.

So all depends on personal taste, tell us your taste![/QUOTE]I find it difficult to judge based on country of origin as to who gives bad service. Marie is a 7-7. 5 in service and 9-9. 5 in looks. Agreed, everyone has a different taste and I respect that. I prefer kissing and BBBJ at least. I also enjoy DATY sometimes. F39 is probably a good club for a German speaking person. Many girls I approached at F39 said they don't speak english and I sensed felt nervous to talk to me. They weren't trying to be rude, they just didn't want me to have a bad experience. Also, the place is not frequented by too many non-whites, I think (it appeared that way).

[QUOTE=Simex; 1473380]Very nice report JJForum61. For someone with so few reports and presumably little FKK experience you seem too click with most girls at ACA and receive good service.

Where as some experienced punters here are struggling to get decent service. Please share your insight?[/QUOTE]Thanks, I am bad with names so I don't bother with reports usually. But decided this time to write something. No formula here for getting good service. I too have had bad service I. E, Samya and at GT and at Globe.

[QUOTE=Simex; 1473380]Very nice report JJForum61. For someone with so few reports and presumably little FKK experience you seem too click with most girls at ACA and receive good service.

Where as some experienced punters here are struggling to get decent service. Please share your insight?[/QUOTE]Actually, I am curious about a certain aspect of this as well. For some punters I talked to, good service must have kissing and fingers in pussy, BBBJ and a lot of extras w / o paying extra money for them. One young guy I was talking too said "she is really good because I fucked her twice last time I was here and she was happy for just one room price". What defines a good service?

Summary of my tour in order of positive impression. *I converted Swiss Francs to Euros. *I noted how much total was spent including incremental transportation (cab rides, or subway rides) , (I was using a pass so train rides and S-Bahn was not incremental) , and overpayments trying to get better service. *I even included the cost of a Red Bull if I had one. *On cities, I spelled my best from memory. *

Globe.

Zurich.

First visit 187.

Second visit 187.

Did not ask for any extras. *The GFE was so good, I didn't want any. *Service here seemed remarkable. *Girls did not want to leave the room short of a half hour least there be some question of satisfaction. *Number one on my list. *Management really wants men to be happy.

Oase.

Freidrichsdorf.

First visit 340.

Second visit 192.

Third visit 242.

Did two girls on first visit and promised them both 100 euros whose ever mouth I came it. *I want to make out with one girl while the other girl finished me off. *Then did a second girl and couldn't finish. *Second visit CIM finish. *Third visit could not finish with first girl (had a piercing that I hadn't noticed which turned me off. *The number of beautiful girls was absolutely amazing. *And they have the only edible food in FKK land now that they "charge." this is Disneyland for men.

Golden Time*

Bruggen.

First visit 197.

Second visit 247.

Third visit 249.

Service was no where close to the above, but girls overall where very pretty. *Way, way, way to many men on every visit. *Service that I received was not the best. *Seemed like a club for regulars.

Artemis.

Berlin.

First visit 240.

Second visit 190.

I cannot remember these sessions to be honest, but I always like Artemis.

Palace.

Frankfurt.

Only visit 229.

I know this club gets bad reviews sometimes. *But I always enjoy it, and I don't mind paying for the service I want. *CIM finish.

Golden Time Vienna.

Vienna.

First visit 330.

Second visit 210.

I should have terminated first session when she started with a CBJ. *But instead I kept adding extras (anal and CIM) hoping to improve things. *It didn't. *You also have made mistakes in your life. *Second visit was better, but not memorable. *If I am in Vienna, I will go, but it isn't a destination.

World.

Giessen.

Only visit 201.

Mediocre girls and service. *A lot of trouble and I am never delighted.

Mainhatten*

Frankfurt.

Only visit 101.

Good value. *I get there before 13:00 and got their early bird entry. *Service was medium, but I was just trying for a quickie before I went home. *My service wasn't very good either. *I was actually starting to get bored fucking you beautiful girls.

Samya.

Cologne.

Only visit 105.

Maybe it is a club for younger men. *Maybe it is a club for regulars. *Girls below overall average. *Would not return.

Bernds.

Cologne (just outside via subway and cab)

Only visit 151.

I don't get it

[QUOTE=Jymondor;1473455]What club is that? I cannot understand that abbreviation. Colosseum?[/QUOTE]I always thought a cola was a kind of non alcoholic drink whixh one asks for at the bar in the club.

In this case Cola refers to Colosseum in Augsburg.