Taipei

[QUOTE=Scarborough;2457751]Very interested in what keywords you used and which booker you found. I'm in a similar situation that I'm Taiwanese but haven't been in the country for a very long time. Very interested in bringing the mongering hobby I picked up in the US back home, but I'm wary of messing up, falling for a sting or getting scammed.[/QUOTE]I included the keyword I search. I then found a Japanese man review of a place he went to called which means New York Square / Pavilion. From there I found multiple broker sites for that place and their chain so I bit the bullet and went with that one. Through that broker I basically found out that New York Pavilion and the Ji Lin place were all related to one another.

[QUOTE=Martinlin0830;2457459]First Post here.

I decided to go to a MP on Ji Lin road that was connected via Line through a broker. You can easily find these if you search hard enough. I recommend only if you speak mandarin or know a good amount, though the broker knew a fair bit of English since it's been like 4-5 years since I've been back in Taiwan for such a long period. As many of you are used to the regular MP on Minquan and other foreigner friendly areas. Ji Lin Guan is actually pretty accommodating for foreigners, granted I am Taiwanese just been abroad for all of my life, so do take that with a grain of salt. I've been to a few of the places in Minquan and the only problem is the older staff as it can be a turn off so I turned to google and popped in which basically means happy ending massage in Chinese. A few popped up and I found this broker who I think runs a chain of these places. He recommended Ji Lin since it was the most convenient to my current place of stay. The guy on Line was pretty friendly and up front. I went out of the gate and told him I know what kind services is provided so he replied with a full set of price for the list of services so I knew beforehand and know what to pay when I get there. The price is 2500 for the house price (which is also the base price and you can add on top of other services like HJ, BJ, or FS). It is pretty much non-negotiable as he said they use a fixed price system where a HJ is included in the 2500 and FS was an extra 3200 NTD. I didn't ask the BJ but I should've. If it is your first time the broker recommends you just show up and select one of the girls on call. Usually they have 4-10 girls on call, I came at around 12 PM-1 PM ISH so it was pretty early and there were only a 4 available. Though I can definitely say the girls will be better than what most MP place will be considering you are paying a hefty premium compared to other joints..[/QUOTE]Total price for FS is 3200 or 5700 (2500 + 3200)?

Can you give more details about the place website or how to contact the broker?

Thanks.

Date: 13 Jun.

Location: near intersection of JiLin Road and JinZhou St (there are two MP's next to each other; the one on the right).

Time: 18:00.

Name: 8 and 88.

Nationality: Both Vietnamese.

Age. Late 30's, late 20's.

Face: 3 of 5 and 2 of 5.

Body: 3 of 5 and 3 of 5.

Tits: be+, the+.

Height: 160 ish for both.

Service: 4 of 5.

GFE: 2 of 5.

Price: 1300 for oil, 90 minutes.

Repeat: likely not.

I PMed knick about this MP, and when he gave me the address, I made a note to check it out, as milfy spinners are MCOT. As it turns out, this session wasn't a loss, but it wasn't perfect either. So let's set the stage:

The last few months have been pretty disastrous for the world's economy, but not for mine. Being a bit flush meant I had enough hidden cash stocked up to hit a number of MPs, and sample, as well as improve my relationship with my regular, who provides GFE, mind blowing experiences (and to be quite honest, I'm not giving contact out for). On this night, I didn't have time or energy to go after my regular, so I remembered my promise to knick, and here we are.

He wasn't lying, by the way, the reception lady is fucking HOT. Unfortunately, it's likely she's not available for service. I paid my 1300, and deposited my shoes, while she called for number 8 because I didn't specify a number (still scouting the place, and to be honest, I enjoy the chaos of not knowing what I'll get). The girl who came out was not impressive, to say the least, and we went to the second floor.

HUGE room with a shower means fun times ahead always. Lather up, super hot water, wash out that sweat, and she comes into the room. Chitchat in Chinese, she's pretty astonished I speak English, and I'm grateful her Chinese has that Vietnamese lisp.

Massage commences face down, hot rags, really pokey fingers, more chit chit. Her massage skill is pretty shit, so I've got an internal uh oh coming up. She asks for a flip after 15 minutes or so, and on to the next part.

She gets more flirtatious with me, which I'm grateful for, but to be honest, she's just going through the motions. Maybe she sensed it, or figured I wasn't going to be easy, or just wanted to help a friend out, but she started talking about another number.

I misunderstood this to be about a different girl I knew at a different MP nearby, but after some discussion, I figured out she was hitting me up for a threesome. It was at this moment I realized that I could suffer the next hour with a girl who was going through the motions, and likely would tire out, or there could be a third party who would likely know how to finish things.

Actually, I've never been posed this question in the Viet MPs. The Chinese MPs are typically not worth it if you don't know the girls, and Taiwanese even less so. Same price, same tip posed no problem to me (as in most of the Taiwanese MPs, same price for just one girl full service), and she teased me a bit while waiting for her to come in.

Second girl was fucking stacked, huge, huge breasts, and from the very beginning showed initiative. She got right down to it, strictly business, and it was over in a fairly short amount of time. This was one of many threesomes I've had over the years, and to be honest, compared to most situations, it wasn't bad at all.

I'm not saying I'd recommend, but the value was certainly there.

So I leave the ball with you guys, find me some numbers worth measuring up, and I'll be happy to do the follow-up work on it.

[QUOTE=Scarborough;2457751]Very interested in what keywords you used and which booker you found. I'm in a similar situation that I'm Taiwanese but haven't been in the country for a very long time. Very interested in bringing the mongering hobby I picked up in the US back home, but I'm wary of messing up, falling for a sting or getting scammed.[/QUOTE]I guess you can't put a price tag on quality and peace of mind, but still, $NT5700 is close to $200.00 USD. A bit rich for my blood to pay for a continuous routine, and no longer making a United States income. But it sounds like a great outing and without being rushed and a young pretty Taiwanese girl which makes it more special. Being on the cheap side, I stay away from the prime pre-packaged merchandise and brave the hit or miss frontier in and around the LST area. The carnival environment includes: MILF'S, GILF'S, and even some very young but legal-aged girls from foreign Asian countries. It is more for those who enjoy the hunt as much as the prey.

[QUOTE=Amazake;2458179]I guess you can't put a price tag on quality and peace of mind, but still, $NT5700 is close to $200.00 USD. A bit rich for my blood to pay for a continuous routine, and no longer making a United States income. But it sounds like a great outing and without being rushed and a young pretty Taiwanese girl which makes it more special. Being on the cheap side, I stay away from the prime pre-packaged merchandise and brave the hit or miss frontier in and around the LST area. The carnival environment includes: MILF'S, GILF'S, and even some very young but legal-aged girls from foreign Asian countries. It is more for those who enjoy the hunt as much as the prey.[/QUOTE]You're right 5700 is on the steep side, and I'd prob limit myself as it will slowly but surely dent my wallet. Then on the flip side playing Russian roulette with some of the MPs is equally as hazardous to the piggy bank. To each his own and how he braves his journey. Have fun mongering around TW. (I do wish I was in Japan for their soaplands though, those I would gladly hand over my wallet in a heartbeat).

[QUOTE=AlexJino;2457860]Total price for FS is 3200 or 5700 (2500 + 3200)?

Can you give more details about the place website or how to contact the broker?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]5700. Personally this is a lot but considering it was just P4P and not a massage with a solid young girl that is Taiwanese it's not bad but even so it is pricey if you're just down for a quick release. Also, unless you can speak Chinese or are native Taiwanese they probably won't cater to you which is why it is kinda hard to look it up. I only posted because I figure someone might be interested in what the scene is like for a native.

[QUOTE=Martinlin0830;2458428]5700. Personally this is a lot but considering it was just P4P and not a massage with a solid young girl that is Taiwanese it's not bad but even so it is pricey if you're just down for a quick release. Also, unless you can speak Chinese or are native Taiwanese they probably won't cater to you which is why it is kinda hard to look it up. I only posted because I figure someone might be interested in what the scene is like for a native.[/QUOTE]Guys,

Relax about the Mandarin part. I have found that in Taiwan and whether it be a Taiwanese girl or another national, their biggest worry about a non-Asian dude is the size between his legs and possibly he might be too aggressive in the bedroom. As far as conversation in the same language during the act or before the act in price negotiation, how much Mandarin do you really need? And besides, as my guru once told me "broken English is the universal language of the world. " In Taiwan, I have also encountered situations with beautiful young Vietnamese girls, that they do not understand Mandarin, or at least mine. And the fallback language between us was English. (wow, so refreshing) In Taiwan, the only impediment that I have found to break the deal was the girl's fear of my "westerness. " Once we got past that and she found that I treated her as kind as I would treat my daughter and then up the ante if in reality she enjoyed being a tigress, then she was mine and welcomed me back and recommended me to her friends as a good boy who knows how to behave. On occasion, I have been refused for "repeats" because the girl was a real "cummer" and I held back for too long enjoying her convulsions, but unlike us who are in it for great long sex, many of them are in it only for the money and to wrap it up ASAP and get on to the next john. So, those types refused my repeat business but did recommend me to other ladies that wanted the money and enjoyed the ride also. Taiwan welcomes westerners with open arms. True, the more Mandarin you know, truly AMPS up and enhances your experience and gains you ambiance, respectability and credence, but if you only have a few words in your pocket and are a very slow learner, (ME) no matter what country you are in, take what you got, learn as you go and remember that from time immemorial, men and women from far and distant lands have engaged in mating with only the language of the body, mind, emotion and spirit and when it comes to even watching porn or a silent sex film of the early 1900's, it is always just as enjoyable to watch, even without dialogue. Remember, you are truly a valued customer because you carry the coin of the realm, $NT, and they are there for once purpose and that is at the end of the day to tally up how many of those lovely blue $NT1000 notes she accumulated. The end.

[QUOTE=Amazake;2458565]Guys,

Relax about the Mandarin part. I have found that in Taiwan and whether it be a Taiwanese girl or another national, their biggest worry about a non-Asian dude is the size between his legs and possibly he might be too aggressive in the bedroom. As far as conversation in the same language during the act or before the act in price negotiation, how much Mandarin do you really need? And besides, as my guru once told me "broken English is the universal language of the world. " In Taiwan, I have also encountered situations with beautiful young Vietnamese girls, that they do not understand Mandarin, or at least mine. And the fallback language between us was English. (wow, so refreshing) In Taiwan, the only impediment that I have found to break the deal was the girl's fear of my "westerness. " Once we got past that and she found that I treated her as kind as I would treat my daughter and then up the ante if in reality she enjoyed being a tigress, then she was mine and welcomed me back and recommended me to her friends as a good boy who knows how to behave. On occasion, I have been refused for "repeats" because the girl was a real "cummer" and I held back for too long enjoying her convulsions, but unlike us who are in it for great long sex, many of them are in it only for the money and to wrap it up ASAP and get on to the next john..[/QUOTE]Ditto on that man, in the beginning I told them straight up I'm a hua qiao (overseas Taiwanese / Chinese) the broker was hesitant at first and only told me about the one branch where they catered to foreigners but after realizing I spoke perfect mandarin but was just weak on the writing spectrum he gave no thoughts about it and practically opened up the books and told me all their spots and to shoot him a message the day before if I wanted to have some more fun. It def is YMMV for sure but let's be honest here this one place might not be super foreigner friendly but there multiple place in TW that wouldn't gives a rats ass if you were white or yellow. Happy mongering. Will be going to their other branches either tomorrow or the end of the week. Will let you know about it. There is a girl I'm interested but didn't book beause it is still safer to come and see the line up. God knows how old those photos and P.S. Was used.

[QUOTE=Martinlin0830;2458715]Ditto on that man, in the beginning I told them straight up I'm a hua qiao (overseas Taiwanese / Chinese) the broker was hesitant at first and only told me about the one branch where they catered to foreigners but after realizing I spoke perfect mandarin but was just weak on the writing spectrum he gave no thoughts about it and practically opened up the books and told me all their spots and to shoot him a message the day before if I wanted to have some more fun. It def is YMMV for sure but let's be honest here this one place might not be super foreigner friendly but there multiple place in TW that wouldn't gives a rats ass if you were white or yellow. Happy mongering. Will be going to their other branches either tomorrow or the end of the week. Will let you know about it. There is a girl I'm interested but didn't book beause it is still safer to come and see the line up. God knows how old those photos and P.S. Was used.[/QUOTE]Thank you. I certainly appreciate your perspective. And it is surely a warm feeling to bond on the subject of mongering in Taiwan with you. But in my humble opinion, we are sort of like on opposite ends of the spectrum. You being Taiwanese and speaking a good Mandarin, minus the writing and although not raised in Taiwan, makes so little difference. You are still Taiwanese speaking Mandarin and you should be treated with every privilege and confidence by all brokers and all the girls that any other full-fledged Taiwanese is entitled to. How can you not feel 100% at home?

On the other hand, a westerner like myself, on the streets and on the phones wreaks "oddball," danger and someone to be wary of. But, that being said, one uses his street smarts, confidence and most importantly "humbleness" in trying to garner a stable of eligible ladies to provide comfort and pleasure to a lonely wanderer.

We differ also hugely in our arena of play. You are dealing with, shall I say, luxury, delicious Taiwanese delicacies and you are willing to pay for a more catered experience. When I was younger, like yourself, that was a very important criteria. But, now, I can't unload a tranche of cash on one hour, when I can stretch that same amount over 3 or 4 or even close to 5 visits with street girls.

I must admit, the street scene is very sparse these days because of the virus prohibiting much entry into Taiwan and also increased police presence, causing the girls to scatter. But all that being said, someone can always be found, for the mere fact that these girls are business women, that need the money and "risk" is blatant in their DNA by the mere fact that they chose this profession. So, although being turned down multiple times, I merely smile at them very benevolently and sincerely and wish them well. Who knows? Maybe next time after becoming accustomed to seeing me and too few customers that night, they will take a chance on me and if they do, I make sure that they are not sorry for doing so.

In the streets, when the ladies from other countries are in abundance, there is no problem at all, because they are foreigners and I am a foreigner, so we are on equal ground, and many of them are quite beautiful.

But, it is always what you make of it. Even in that old dilapidated tea house area in the Huaxi night market, I have made friendships with some very wonderful ladies that are "past their prime. " I have even had some wonderful, very fulfilling, very relaxing rendezvouses for close to an hour and on some occasions even two or three hour rendezvouses for a comparably very little amount of money, in the $NT1000 to $NT2000 area. But that is when there is a warm and loving connection that is established. And, oddly enough, one's "foreignness" could work in his favor. As I like to meld with a lady from another background, inherently so does she, once getting past her inhibitions.

Hopefully, the virus restrictions will soon be removed and the streets will again be adorned with such precious beauties who pay so much attention to their clothing and appearance, just because the competition is plethoric.

I wish you well and safety and happiness as I do all other mongers and thank you all for your contributions. Without your help and perspectives, I would have had no roadmap and guidance. Be safe and healthy. Treat the ladies right and they will treat you right -- well, most of the time they will.

If you know Chinese, and stay long term in Taiwan, you can google these two Chinese words yu2 (fishing) xun4 (news) in Chinese for more mongering options. You can find independents and that is where you can find students. That is what many locals use. There is a learning curve so it is not easy. The price is 4 K on average, but can also get expensive for a model quality girl.

2nd report at the other branch. The girl I wanted was book and I did see her walk by she was probably more to my liking. I opted foe this one named Ke Ke (Cocoa). Let's keep this short should've just saved my money came back another time. When she came fully dressed I for sure thought she was at least a be or see but through some voodoo mojo she went to an A at a moments notice when she undressed. Also she was their new gel so she was hesitant at super shy not that it's a bad thing. She tried to rush things too much all in all not the most pleasurable experience. So. I guess you live and you learn thank god I only opted for the HJ and a she did a bit of BJ teasing otherwise I would've shat myself for blowing so much money. 2400 k +500 tip out of generosity was a lesson well learnt. Will go back at a better time.

[QUOTE=WindAngel;2458850]If you know Chinese, and stay long term in Taiwan, you can google these two Chinese words yu2 (fishing) xun4 (news) in Chinese for more mongering options. You can find independents and that is where you can find students. That is what many locals use. There is a learning curve so it is not easy. The price is 4 K on average, but can also get expensive for a model quality girl.[/QUOTE]Is this the correct website: lds5**m?

I tried using the website but somehow pretty difficult to get access to "certified" girls contact info (Line, phone etc). It keeps saying you need gold to view comments / info. Any tips what to do?

[QUOTE=WindAngel;2458850]If you know Chinese, and stay long term in Taiwan, you can google these two Chinese words yu2 (fishing) xun4 (news) in Chinese for more mongering options. You can find independents and that is where you can find students. That is what many locals use. There is a learning curve so it is not easy. The price is 4 K on average, but can also get expensive for a model quality girl.[/QUOTE]How do you get access to the independent users? Is it only by paying for their forum-gold?

Thanks for the tip!

[QUOTE=Pineapplemango;2461076]How do you get access to the independent users? Is it only by paying for their forum-gold?

Thanks for the tip![/QUOTE]There are several sites. If I were you, I would hire someone like a 7/11 clerk in their free time to help. Their hourly wage is less than 5 USD. Try make friend with one and offer more money.

The system takes work but it is quite common. Basically you have to accumulate enough "reward" or "coin" to gain more access, or use it to exchange information.

[QUOTE=OldHickory;2455762]Don't worry, these lessons are part of the tuition, haha. Since you were kind enough to take one for the team and make a report, I'd like to suggest a meeting this weekend, and I'll walk you into one of the other places and give you a bit more Intel.

If you're amenable, let me know, and I'll post here for a public meeting spot.[/QUOTE]People will appreciate your kindness.