American Politics

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2661467]Let's unbundle your rambling.

First, tens of millions of American people elected Donald Trump in 2016.

Trump, for fucks sake!

The POS Trump who by then had bankrupted his core businesses, regularly stiffed his contractors, defaulted on hundreds of millions in loans, and had to be saved by infamous Deutsche bank heavily involved with Russia.

Yeah, that fucking Trump.

And what do ya know. After he ruined our economy, killed hundreds of thousands of people with his Covid BS, and nearly destroyed our democracy, tens of millions of American people voted for that national disaster again in 2020.

And you're seriously asking me if American people can be stupid?

Fuck yes. American people can be incomprehensibly, extraordinarily dumb.[/QUOTE]It is no coincidence that the two most media-savvy people who ever occupied the Oval Office, thanks to their media-based careers prior to entering politics, Reagan and Trump, also switched from favoring the Democratic Party before they entered politics to join the Republican Party when they decided to enter politics. And they also happened to be the laziest, least engaged in the challenges of handling the job since "Silent Cal" Coolidge.

After decades of observing both Parties, can anyone imagine for one moment that Reagan but especially Trump would sign up with the Party that even he knew full well was expected to do all of the real work, all of the heavy lifting, assume all of the political risk-taking, all of the designing and tweaking complex legislation and programs that the country needed to recover from one Repub disaster after another, to actually produce historic jobs creation and business expansion results over and over again while Mainstream Media virtually never noticed or gave them credit for it? LOL.

Impossible.

No, they knew better than anyone that the side lazy deadbeats should sign up with was the Party that could easily and leisurely Know Nothing, Do Nothing, sit on their butts and gripe about the Dems, take full credit for every positive result accomplished by the Dems, if they did decide to put some crap legislation together it could and would be fine with Mainstream Media if it Crashed the economy and wiped out millions upon millions of jobs, as their economic legislation usually did, since Mainstream Media could never bring themselves to blame their beloved Repubs for it anyway.

Reagan knew it. Trump knew it.

This was as of December. But the latest report for February will not change the reality of it much if at all. Even adjusting for inflation, Americans have more discretionary money in their pockets now than they did in 2019, before Trump's Pandemic brought us the Trump / Repub Crash and Recession.

[B]Even after accounting for rising prices, the typical American family has more money in their pockets than they did last year.
Mostly True[/B]

[URL]https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/dec/07/joe-biden/do-us-families-have-more-money-their-pockets-now-d/[/URL]

[QUOTE]To zero in on how much Americans have "in their pockets" despite inflation, we turned to a statistic calculated by the federal Bureau of Economic Analysis: Per capita, inflation-adjusted disposable personal income. When we inquired, the White House confirmed to PolitiFact that this was the statistic Biden had in mind.

Disposable personal income refers to wage and salary income, plus government transfer payments like Social Security and unemployment insurance, minus taxes. Its the net of what Americans have left over to pay for all of their needs after theyve paid their taxes. The figure we used is adjusted for inflation and calculated on a per capita that is, a per person basis.[/QUOTE]See, this has to be the case. Why? Because unless there is more money in pockets to buy things, inflation can't possibly occur! Guess what; When we're out of money to spend and buy things, inflation will GO DOWN. I guarantee it. LOL.

Ah, this typical Repub hand-wringing over the "great evil" inflation that occurs when "evil" Dems recover the country from the usual Great Repub Crash and Recession seems to have a magical, mystical hold on some who really don't think it through very well. Or don't want to. And, yep, typically pro-Repub Mainstream Media does very little or nothing to educate them about it.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2661457]OPEC controls prices by increasing or decreasing production.

You can bloviate all you want about "the US isn't producing more oil because of Biden". I have provided numerous refutations to that nonsense but, as usual, you stick to the Fux "News" hogwash. US Oil companies aren't producing more because the stockholders want them to shore up their bottom lines.

And Biden said he wanted net-zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2050. He didn't call for firing the oil and gas industry. But sure, FUX "News" and the one-term, twice-impeached former guy probably said that and, predictably, you bought their BS skin-baloney-and-all.

And, by the way, was worldwide oil production in Q42021 101.33 BPD or was it 98.33 BPD? Because you said it was both.[/QUOTE]Oil companies didn't stop drilling on federal land because they wanted to shore up their bottom line. They stopped drilling because Biden cancelled permits on all federal land. Because of this oil production dropped in USA in 2021 by over 1,000,000 barrels a day. Biden is being forced to allow more drilling and production will increase in 2022. Biden cancelled XL Pipeline which would have brought 840,000 barrels of cheap Canadian heavy crude to refineries and now we get to buy 800,000 barrels a day of Russian heavy oil at a higher price. OPEC has the most influence on oil prices and when they see USA production going down by Biden dumb policies they increase oil prices. It has been that way for 50 years. Oil companies bottom line is great. Stock prices are up 30% in January and went up 50% last year. Oil companies are paying huge dividends. Biden green policies are making oil companies rich.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2661457]OPEC controls prices by increasing or decreasing production.[/QUOTE]No, they do not control prices. They used to. The USA is the swing producer. With shale, you can cut production off much more easily and quickly.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2661457]You can bloviate all you want about "the US isn't producing more oil because of Biden". I have provided numerous refutations to that nonsense but, as usual, you stick to the Fux "News" hogwash. US Oil companies aren't producing more because the stockholders want them to shore up their bottom lines.[/QUOTE]Sorry, that is wrong. The economics of drilling is great. "Drilling economics today are better than they've ever been since the shale revolution started," Chris Wright, chief executive officer at Liberty Oilfield Services, told Reuters.

[URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/90-oil-offers-best-ever-economics-us-shale[/URL]

Supply chain challenges and higher labor and equipment costs could be stumbling blocks for USA Shale, especially for the basins with higher breakeven prices.

Gee, and whose fault is that?

Headline CPI and core CPI popped 0. 6% (0. 65%/0. 58% unrounded) mom in January, kicking off the new year with a positive inflation surprise. This boosted the yoy rates to 7. 5% from 7. 04% for headline and 6. 0% from 5. 5% for core both the highest since 1982 as noted above.

Are you Dems going to own that or is it the pandemic or Trump's fault? How come there was not this much inflation with Trump?

Back to the article: But the oil industry still has not recovered: Still, USA Crude oil production is set to hit a new record of 12.4 million barrels per day (bpd) in 2023, the Energy Information Administration (EIA) said in the January Short-Term Energy Outlook (STEO).

On Tuesday the EIA raised its production forecast, expecting USA Crude oil production to rise to an average of 12.0 million bpd in 2022 and 12.6 million bpd in 2023 an annual record high and 200,000 bpd above last month's estimate. The previous annual average record of 12.3 million bpd was set in 2019.

End of quote.

This is not shit. It is nowhere near enough. Oil production was up as much as a million BPD a year under Obama in his last few years and was up as high as 1. 5 million under Trump.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2661457]And, by the way, was worldwide oil production in Q42021 101.33 BPD or was it 98.33 BPD? Because you said it was both.[/QUOTE]101.33 was in Q4 2019.98. 33 was last quarter.

And USA oil production was less in 2021 than 2020. Whose fault is that? It is never Biden's fault about anything is it?

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2661457]And Biden said he wanted net-zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2050. He didn't call for firing the oil and gas industry.[/QUOTE]With that statement, he may as well have.

And then look at the table from this article:

[URL]https://www.freightwaves.com/news/glimmer-of-hope-has-the-ship-gridlock-off-ports-finally-peaked[/URL]

The number of container ships waiting for berths at the ports of LOS Angeles and Long Beach fell to 78 on Tuesday, the lowest tally in three months. That's down down 23% from 101 ships on Feb. 1 (the average for the month of January was also 101) and down 28% from the all-time high of 109 ships on Jan. 9, albeit still up 160% year on year.

Congratulations, maybe in another two years, you Dems can get that under ten like it was with Trump.

But maybe everything will be better if you Dems can get Joe Rogan and his "misinformation" off Spotify. That seems to be your #1 priority right now.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2661467]Let's unbundle your rambling.

First, tens of millions of American people elected Donald Trump in 2016.

Trump, for fucks sake!

The POS Trump who by then had bankrupted his core businesses, regularly stiffed his contractors, defaulted on hundreds of millions in loans, and had to be saved by infamous Deutsche bank heavily involved with Russia.

Yeah, that fucking Trump..[/QUOTE]Yeah, no way people were better off with Reagan than Carter. The economy under Carter was as good as it is today under Biden. Biden's economy is better than Trump's and Carter's economy was better than Reagan's.

Xpartan, how many times were you dropped as a child?

Was inflation this high under Trump Xpartan? Now go ahead and make your pathetic sorry ass excuses.

[QUOTE=EatALotOpus;2661593]Obviously you're dead set in your believes and so am I so I'm not going into your rabbit hole.[/QUOTE]Well, that's convenient.

Lazy, but convenient, no doubt about that.

Although, if you're not willing to even consider your opponent's arguments, why start arguing to begin with?

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2661763]Well, that's convenient.

Lazy, but convenient, no doubt about that.

Although, if you're not willing to even consider your opponent's arguments, why start arguing to begin with?[/QUOTE]They get fed an over-abundance of retard right-wing talking points and not much else.

He might not be able to stop himself from spewing some uncontrollably.

Like all helpless newborns do.

[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2661066]This offer has been out now for close to 48 hours.

Here in California, it is around 8 PM.

There have been no takers that I know of.

I will hold my offer open for about the next 50 hours.

If you want to make this bet with me, indicate in this thread before 10:00 PM (PST) on Thursday, February 10th.

I have been concerned about the Senate seat in Georgia.

Polls seen to favor republican athlete Herschel Walker over the incumbent democrat Raphael Warnock.

We'll see how that goes.[/QUOTE]It is now around 3:30 PM on Thursday, so my betting offer is closing in around 6 1/2 hours from now.

[QUOTE=Canada;2661707]Oil companies didn't stop drilling on federal land because they wanted to shore up their bottom line. They stopped drilling because Biden cancelled permits on all federal land. Because of this oil production dropped in USA in 2021 by over 1,000,000 barrels a day. Biden is being forced to allow more drilling and production will increase in 2022. Biden cancelled XL Pipeline which would have brought 840,000 barrels of cheap Canadian heavy crude to refineries and now we get to buy 800,000 barrels a day of Russian heavy oil at a higher price. OPEC has the most influence on oil prices and when they see USA production going down by Biden dumb policies they increase oil prices. It has been that way for 50 years. Oil companies bottom line is great. Stock prices are up 30% in January and went up 50% last year. Oil companies are paying huge dividends. Biden green policies are making oil companies rich.[/QUOTE]You really need to stop believing what you hear on FUX "News".

1. " They stopped drilling because Biden cancelled permits on all federal land. " Hogwash. [URL]https://www.audubon.org/news/despite-pledge-ban-it-oil-and-gas-permitting-under-biden[/URL].

2. "XL Pipeline". Hogwash. It wasn't even built yet. Coulda, woulda, shoulda doesn't matter.

3. "Oil companies bottom line is great". [URL]https://www.npr.org/2021/03/06/973649045/hold-that-drill-why-wall-street-wants-energy-companies-to-pump-less-oil-not-more[/URL].

4-x. All of the following articles refute your anti-Biden hogwash [URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/daneberhart/2021/11/13/why-are-oil-prices-so-high-when-the-us-remains-one-of-the-worlds-largest-producers/?sh=17b42329ddfc[/URL] and [URL]https://www.thebalance.com/what-makes-oil-prices-so-high-3305654[/URL] and [URL]https://www.business-standard.com/article/international/explained-why-are-crude-oil-prices-high-and-any-relief-in-sight-122012500016_1.html[/URL] and [URL]https://apnews.com/article/why-are-gas-oil-prices-high-c949cd59a39fc62b5c37eed6838484bd[/URL] and [URL]https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=50738[/URL].

But, hey, FUX "News" said Biden is to blame so, yeah, let's go with that. Sheesh.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2661729][b]Yeah, no way people were better off with Reagan than Carter. The economy under Carter was as good as it is today under Biden. Biden's economy is better than Trump's and Carter's economy was better than Reagan's.[/b]

Xpartan, how many times were you dropped as a child?

Was inflation this high under Trump Xpartan? Now go ahead and make your pathetic sorry ass excuses.[/QUOTE]Well, yeah, Elvis, it looks like you did inadvertently lurch into some truth there.

Although your suggestion that Carter's economic results were as good as Biden's is highly debatable. After all, as bad as the Nixon / Ford economy and conditions were that Carter inherited and had to recovery America from, it wasn't nearly as nightmarish and disastrous as what Biden inherited from Trump and has been recovering us from at a historic clip and level.

Now, I have posted links in my previous posts for the history of Inflation, GDP Growth, Unemployment Rates, Jobs Creation or Losses by President including average annual gains, Recessions, stock market gains, etc.

Feel free to research, review, re-link and reference the actual, verifiable record and data in any and all of them to refute what you stated and that I highlighted above if you'd like.

Good luck with that. I've looked and I can't refute it.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2661729]Yeah, no way people were better off with Reagan than Carter. The economy under Carter was as good as it is today under Biden. Biden's economy is better than Trump's and Carter's economy was better than Reagan's.

Xpartan, how many times were you dropped as a child?

Was inflation this high under Trump Xpartan? Now go ahead and make your pathetic sorry ass excuses.[/QUOTE]You could, of course, provide sources for your hogwash. But then, you'd have to do [B]research[/B] and read the articles. But everybody knows that is simply too much work for you. So you post opinion and call it fact. No wonder you watch FUX "News" and believe them.

[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2661771]They get fed an over-abundance of retard right-wing talking points and not much else.

He might not be able to stop himself from spewing some uncontrollably.

Like all helpless newborns do.[/QUOTE]My post, unlike yours that is based on mushroom feed rhetoric, was based on my personal experience I. E KFC and a report from CNBC an NBC Universal outlet.

Thus your post becomes very intelligent for someone devoid of facts!
Keep on mongering but don't spent your stimulus money. You may need it with this inflation!

[QUOTE=EatALotOpus;2661991]My post, unlike yours that is based on mushroom feed rhetoric, was based on my personal experience I. E KFC and a report from CNBC an NBC Universal outlet.

Thus your post becomes very intelligent for someone devoid of facts!
Keep on mongering but don't spent your stimulus money. You may need it with this inflation![/QUOTE]More nothing from a nothing.

With farm producers getting paid less.

And grocery stores charging more.

Eat a lot.

When whining a lot about inflation.

Does not think a lot.

And understands nothing, like he is.

[QUOTE=Canada;2661707]Oil companies didn't stop drilling on federal land because they wanted to shore up their bottom line.[/QUOTE]That is exactly why domestic oil production is slowing down to a trickle.

10 to 20 years from now it is likely that more than half of new vehicles will not use gasoline as its primary fuel.

It would be foolish to spend a big part of (oil company) current budget on new drilling for new wells to produce oil in the future that won't be needed.

Buggy whip production slowed way down a hundred years ago. Canada decries that lost production capacity!

More than 11 royal guardsmen had to hold the prince in restraints as he tried desperately this morning to wake and infect his Mother, the Queen.