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Cartsgena trip
Got a flight out of ATlantic City spirit to ft lauderdsld and on to Cartagena. I love that flight. 720.00 round trip all big front seats except for 1 exit row.
Smooth sailing got into ctg around 1:40 cabb tide 20,000 to languitto unpacked walked fown said Hello, to tony and my favorite massage girl Luce marina. Great girl no massage till tomorrow. Weather was good but a little overcast. Shopped at Olympics now a nap and I will hit walled city.
And ldv also met cab driver Freddy real nice and got party supplies.
To be continued!
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Took my nap and headed up to ldv around 11:30. Had made a drink and was finishing it sitting in area outside ldv. Chica approached me her name was Luce daddy (didn't care what she said her name was) she had a nice body offered her 150,000 for a couple hours. She was a great time BBBJ daty kissing a lot of fun. Then I went to bed it's now8:20 am going for a walk.
[QUOTE=YouCan;1596363]Got a flight out of ATlantic City spirit to ft lauderdsld and on to Cartagena. I love that flight. 720.00 round trip all big front seats except for 1 exit row.
Smooth sailing got into ctg around 1:40 cabb tide 20,000 to languitto unpacked walked fown said Hello, to tony and my favorite massage girl Luce marina. Great girl no massage till tomorrow. Weather was good but a little overcast. Shopped at Olympics now a nap and I will hit walled city.
And ldv also met cab driver Freddy real nice and got party supplies.
To be continued![/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=YouCan;1596626]Took my nap and headed up to ldv around 11:30. Had made a drink and was finishing it sitting in area outside ldv. Chica approached me her name was Luce daddy (didn't care what she said her name was) she had a nice body offered her 150,000 for a couple hours. She was a great time BBBJ daty kissing a lot of fun. Then I went to bed it's now8:20 am going for a walk.[/QUOTE]Good to see you back again and posting. Have you seen Lina in CTG? I looked for her when I was in CTG couple of months ago and I could not track her down. PM if you prefer.
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No I haven't seen her. She was a great find. I emailed her before my trip but haven't heard back from her. Today beach was packed with family's as usual for a Sunday. Few girls working beach but non interested me. Took nap and walked upto ldv and there was no more then 4 girls in there at 12:50. Never seen it that dead.
[QUOTE=Vitrea;1597279]Good to see you back again and posting. Have you seen Lina in CTG? I looked for her when I was in CTG couple of months ago and I could not track her down. PM if you prefer.
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[QUOTE=YouCan;1597349]No I haven't seen her. She was a great find. I emailed her before my trip but haven't heard back from her. Today beach was packed with family's as usual for a Sunday. Few girls working beach but non interested me. Took nap and walked upto ldv and there was no more then 4 girls in there at 12:50. Never seen it that dead.[/QUOTE]You Can, Sunday was a Colombian holiday, that's why it was dead, Independence Day.
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[QUOTE=Manizales911;1597392]You Can, Sunday was a Colombian holiday, that's why it was dead, Independence Day.[/QUOTE]The holiday may be the reason it was dead. However, a Colombian acquaintance who lives there told me a few weeks ago that LDV has been experiencing slow business for a while. Maybe their new and greedy price structure (buying X amount of drinks etc.) has finally caught up to them.
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As many times as I been to ldv I honestly don't know what there price structure is. I always buy a big bottle of rum and all the mixers come with it. I always tip the 2 guys at door on my way out 10,000 peso each.
Never had a problem.
Hopefully tonight be good. I post in morning.
Thanks for letting me know about holiday. I know Sundays at club could be slow but that was brutal. Should have put more effort into beach work that day.
[QUOTE=Tomasb;1597487]The holiday may be the reason it was dead. However, a Colombian acquaintance who lives there told me a few weeks ago that LDV has been experiencing slow business for a while. Maybe their new and greedy price structure (buying X amount of drinks etc.) has finally caught up to them.[/QUOTE]
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Went to ldv last night and it's dead. Picked up Carolina really nice. But club maybe 10 girls 3 guys place is dead. I was here 3 months ago it was fine. Don't know what happened but it's not good.
[QUOTE=YouCan;1597670]As many times as I been to ldv I honestly don't know what there price structure is. I always buy a big bottle of rum and all the mixers come with it. I always tip the 2 guys at door on my way out 10,000 peso each.
Never had a problem.
Hopefully tonight be good. I post in morning.
Thanks for letting me know about holiday. I know Sundays at club could be slow but that was brutal. Should have put more effort into beach work that day.[/QUOTE]
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LDV vs. Plaza Reloj
[QUOTE=YouCan;1597863]Went to ldv last night and it's dead. Picked up Carolina really nice. But club maybe 10 girls 3 guys place is dead. I was here 3 months ago it was fine. Don't know what happened but it's not good.[/QUOTE]As previously noted, I was told by locals it is not happening at LDV anymore plus Elektra is closed, probably for good. On my recent trip to CTG, I preferred hanging around Plaza Reloj (Coches) as it was a pretty mellow scene. After 10 pm, the girls start coming. For the most part, the talent is below par that you would find in LDV so you have to be patient and wait or hope for the odd gem. Obviously, more vetting is required and nearby short term hotels are better options unless you know or trust the girl.
Perhaps, LDV will be better as it gets closer to weekend so let us know. If it is dead next weekend, that would speak volumes.
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[QUOTE=Tomasb;1597890]As previously noted, I was told by locals it is not happening at LDV anymore plus Elektra is closed, probably for good. On my recent trip to CTG, I preferred hanging around Plaza Reloj (Coches) as it was a pretty mellow scene. After 10 pm, the girls start coming. For the most part, the talent is below par that you would find in LDV so you have to be patient and wait or hope for the odd gem. Obviously, more vetting is required and nearby short term hotels are better options unless you know or trust the girl.
Perhaps, LDV will be better as it gets closer to weekend so let us know. If it is dead next weekend, that would speak volumes.[/QUOTE]LDV is usually best Wed-Fri. Saturday the girls are out partying usually with guys that they met earlier in the week.
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Hey,
What's going on guys?
Making my way back to Colombia in 5 years. It will be my first time in Cartagena. I been to Medellin and Cali quite bit of times. So Cartagena is new to me.
As far as accommodations is concern, Is wall city or old town a good place to stay?? That is close to all regular non pro clubs, restaurants and shopping? How long is a taxi ride to LDV? Are there plenty of strip clubs in old town area?
One of my friend is going to Cartagena mainly for the pros! You think its best for him to stay near LDV in Bocagrande / Laguito?
Thanks, let me know.
Cheers!
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[QUOTE=Jergens007;1598569]Are there plenty of strip clubs in old town area?
[/QUOTE]Plenty. Just RTFF and you'll learn all details.
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Anymore updates on how LDV has been the past couple days? I'll probably be in Cartagena from August 6 to 10, first time back there in probably a year and a half, hopefully things haven't gone to complete shit!
Besides LDV and and with Paprika shutting down, are there any other bars that have picked up the freelance p4 p scene? Any good traction at Tu Candela, Babar or Fragma as of late? Thanks!
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Report Mid July 2014
Went 5 days in mid-July. Took a Colombian girlfriend for 3 days and explored the hobby action for 2 days. Here is my report.
Hobby action (pro).
There are many places to find women.
Playa Hollywood.
Some girls go there when they got nothing to do or when they do not have hungover from the day before. Every day is different. One day you can find more girls (10 approx) and another day there are less (2 to none). It depends on luck, I guess. I noticed that there are many families on both Saturdays and Sundays, which makes it difficult to find women. I went there on a Wednesday and saw many available girls. How to identify available women? Easy, women alone or in groups. If you see a nice woman with a gringo, chances are she is busy. Another way to find women is to ask a guy named Tony to bring them to you. He knows all women at the beach. As soon as he sees a working girl at the beach, she is on his radar. I will talk about this guy Tony later. Quality of women varies. I never found a 10. However, I saw a couple of doable (7-8). Prices at the beach varies. Average is 100,000 pesos = 50 USD approx.
How is the game at the beach? Well, you can sit down, pay for chairs and umbrella and ask Tony to bring women to you. You can also just walk and talk to the girls that you see available, with no Tony involved (cheaper and I did this). You can also bring your drinks in a case / cooler (I tried but it was a nuisance to find a cooler). You can also ask Tony to bring drinks to you (I do not recommend this). You can also just walk without drinks, talk to girls and take them to another place for drinks (I did this).
Tony. This is one of the sons of the devil. He is a dark overweight Colombian. He is extremely extrovert. He is kind of the leader in the only kiosk / bar in the section of the beach where women hang around. As soon as you walk, he will see you and come to you. He sees everything on the beach. He speaks English. He uses lots of bad words. He is dirty. Never shake his hand or wash your hand immediately if you do it. I saw him sneeze in his hand, spit on his hand, etc. It is a gross guy. He will try to get as much money as he can from you. Anything that he does, he will charge you for it. If he brings you a drink, he will add a lot on top of the normal price (almost triple or more). He will drink beers and make you pay for them. Be careful with this guy. I was well informed before dealing with him and kind of knew how to deal with him. I sat down at the kiosk / bar at the beach and analysed this son of the devil. If you go for a session with a girl he introduces to you, he will get a commission (I think 20,000 pesos = 10 USD approx. , not really sure). Would I use Tony? Maybe just to introduce girls to me if I do not see any available. If a nice girl is at the beach even with someone, he will get there and bring her to you. One day I walked on the beach and did not see girls, asked Tony and I do not know where he brought like 6 sitting on the beach which I had not seen. He knows exactly where is everyone sitting.
Additional comments. I saw police presence at the beach and never saw a robbery. The beach is not nice. Not nice water, not nice sand. It is very hot. I found that the best time to hit the beach is 4-6 pm since there is less heat. However, women might be busy at that time. It depends on the luck. Another comment: Playa Hollywood is comprised of two sections: 1 for pro-girls and 1 for gays. Ensure you get a chair in the section which best suits your taste.
La Dolce Vita (LDV).
It is a bar with beautiful working freelancers girls. Quantity is about 20-30 girls. Quality is from 7 to 10. I saw like three 10's. Usually, there are more women than men. Best time to hit this place is 11-12:30. After 1 AM it starts to slow down. At 12 it is at its peak. I met 3 girls at this place. Saw more than 5 that I would do. Prices vary, it usually starts at 300,000 pesos = 150 USD. Prices of the drinks are similar to north America. E. g. , beer 7,000 pesos, rum and coke 7,500 pesos, shot of fine aguardiente 12,000 pesos.
Torre del Reloj (clock tower).
This is an open area, like a mini square. There are benches. There are lots of girls. Quality is usually not good, although you can find a hidden gem, if you are patient. Re: quality, I saw many 4-7 and a couple of 9's. Prices are cheap here (100,000 pesos = 50 USD). There are also lots of bums and bad Colombians males. There is also kind of strong police presence. Safety seems to be under control before 4 AM. After 4 AM it can get dangerous since the police leaves. Girls are even scared to be there after 4 am.
Tu Candela.
Rumor has it that there are freelancers in this place. It is a bar / club with the best atmosphere, in my opinion. I went to 3 other places (Mr. Babillia, Fragma, etc.) and Tu Candela had the best atmosphere. However, there are more men than women. I saw mixed groups and only a few women (4?) in groups of 2. I met a woman outside Tu Candela and told me that there are freelancers in this club but most times men meet them there and immediately start the party with them. Likewise, men meet women at another place and invite them to party to Candela. I never got lucky here because all women were busy with men. Note: no single women are allowed in this place (there are exceptions of course) and many of the girls outside in the clock tower are not allowed to get in. It seems that the owner has a strong policy. He allows only good quality freelancers (this is what a girl I took told me). BTW, I did not pay cover charge to get in (2 nights) and women have to pay like 20,000 pesos = 10 USD. Weird, huh?
Additional places to find women.
Some colleagues mentioned in this forum that sometimes you can find women walking by the main street San Martin in the Bocagrande area or in the Laguito area. I walked in San Martin from 6 to 8 pm and really enjoyed the walk. Lots of regular people, coffee shops, restaurants, buses for tourist, etc. I saw beautiful girls (Non Pro) in a very nice Colombian coffee shop named Juan Valdez. But I did not see PRO girls in San Martin, maybe I was not lucky. However, I walked on the main street during the day in the Laguito area and yes I saw working girls and even talked to some of them and got some numbers. Next time, I would walk, find a small bar / restaurant by the street, sit down, grab a beer and watch women walking by. BTW, a working girl told me that some women go to a place named Cafe Napoleon after the beach to find gringos; however, I could not find it.
Women in general.
Are Colombian women beautiful? Yes, but obviously not all women. Are they the most beautiful? I am not sure. I have seen beautiful girls in north America as well. I have been to Cuba, Costa Rica, Brazil and now Colombia. I have seen beautiful girls in all those places. I like curvy. I think maybe Cubans, Jamaicans, Caribbeans and north American tend to be more curvy, Brazilians in second. Do Colombian women provide good service? Well, I got nice service, not the best but nice service. Maybe Brazilian and some north American women have provided me the best service. But north American women are expensiveBTW, I find incredible that pro girls are very cheap in Latin / South America compared to north America (100 USD in South America to 500 USD in north America for a 9-10 girl). Anyways, I will post in different forum my comparison of hobbying in all those places.
Note: my Colombian girlfriend told me that both Colombian and Venezuelan women are very horny. They love sex. They talk about sex. They cheat on their husbands / boyfriends. She even told me that her neighbour (married regular family female) lets another neighbour fuck her while for some $ while his husband is working. Anyways, funny stories she told me. Conclusion: those women are horny, which I like very much)).
Hotels.
I stayed at Dann. It was ok. Service was good. It is the only hotel with direct access to Playa Hollywood and free chairs and umbrellas. However, the hotel is not chica friendly at all. They are very strict and I understand. It is a family oriented hotel. I saw many families with little kids. What I did for hobby was I used a short term hotel named Sol why Mar just a few steps from Tu Candela and the clock tower. I paid 30,000 pesos = 15 USD for 1 hour which was enough. Do not expect a nice hotel, though. Just the necessary. There are more short term hotels. Just ask the girl or the taxi driver. They all know them. Next time, I might use an apartment if I want to spend more time with a pro and have a GFE. But if you just want short term, a short term hotel will do.
Restaurants.
You can find very nice restaurants. I went to a French named Restaurante 1621 and it is one of the best restaurants I have ever been to. You can use trip advisor to find good ones. There are also low profile restaurants. I also mentioned a very nice Colombian Coffee shop named Juan Valdez where you can see regular people. I saw beautiful girls here. BTW, before you leave your country ensure you get vaccinations. I got stomach flu down there. I do not know what I ate or if it was the ice in my rums.
Cartagena, the city.
I liked downtown Cartagena very much. I like the architecture. It is very small though. I think in 2 hrs you can walk and know everything. I liked the atmosphere. It was nice to see regular people walking on the streets. I liked the live music on the streets as well. If you meet a nice girl, it is a nice idea to bring her down there for an evening. I also felt safe except when I went out of a short term hotel at 5 am.
Safety.
I was really afraid of going to Colombia for a number of reasons. However, I felt very safe in Cartagena. Lots of police presence, maybe that's why. Kudos to the mayor of Cartagena and the Colombian government for this. It is hard to balance prostitution and safety. Well, this place does it. I hope our first world leaders learn the positive aspects of this hobby model. It is the place in my list for hobby where I have felt the safest.
Would I repeat? Mmmmmmmm. Not in the short run.
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Nice report and I can agree on virtually everything you said. I think, however, that I paid more for the short term hotel at Sol why Mar than you so perhaps it depends on how busy they are or how hot your girl is. LOL.
Much has been written about the infamous Tony on this board but you just updated for everyone that nothing has changed with that guy. I never like to go to Playa Hollywood for the reasons you mentioned and never had the misfortune to meet him since I avoid the place. It is hot, dirty, and generally crowded. Plus, I only saw skanky girls when I went.
One part of El Centro I enjoy is strolling the streets during the day. Many beautiful woman who are not on the make, lots of energy, and an overall good vibe.
It's true about Tu Candela and also Havana Club that they are quite discriminating about what girls are allowed in. On my last visit, I did meet two chicas of middling quality in the Havana Club. They wanted $600 k for the two of them but were trying to be quite discrete about it. Both from the coffee axis region. I passed but pretty sure they get business out of there.
[QUOTE=Cerevro;1601332]Went 5 days in mid-July. Took a Colombian girlfriend for 3 days and explored the hobby action for 2 days. Here is my report.
Hobby action (pro).
There are many places to find women.
Playa Hollywood.
Some girls go there when they got nothing to do or when they do not have hungover from the day before. Every day is different. One day you can find more girls (10 approx) and another day there are less (2 to none). It depends on luck, I guess. I noticed that there are many families on both Saturdays and Sundays, which makes it difficult to find women. I went there on a Wednesday and saw many available girls. How to identify available women? Easy, women alone or in groups. If you see a nice woman with a gringo, chances are she is busy. Another way to find women is to ask a guy named Tony to bring them to you. He knows all women at the beach. As soon as he sees a working girl at the beach, she is on his radar. I will talk about this guy Tony later. Quality of women varies. I never found a 10. However, I saw a couple of doable (7-8). Prices at the beach varies. Average is 100,000 pesos = 50 USD approx.
How is the game at the beach? Well, you can sit down, pay for chairs and umbrella and ask Tony to bring women to you. You can also just walk and talk to the girls that you see available, with no Tony involved (cheaper and I did this). You can also bring your drinks in a case / cooler (I tried but it was a nuisance to find a cooler). You can also ask Tony to bring drinks to you (I do not recommend this). You can also just walk without drinks, talk to girls and take them to another place for drinks (I did this).
Tony. This is one of the sons of the devil. He is a dark overweight Colombian. He is extremely extrovert. He is kind of the leader in the only kiosk / bar in the section of the beach where women hang around. As soon as you walk, he will see you and come to you. He sees everything on the beach. He speaks English. He uses lots of bad words. He is dirty. Never shake his hand or wash your hand immediately if you do it. I saw him sneeze in his hand, spit on his hand, etc. It is a gross guy. He will try to get as much money as he can from you. Anything that he does, he will charge you for it. If he brings you a drink, he will add a lot on top of the normal price (almost triple or more). He will drink beers and make you pay for them. Be careful with this guy. I was well informed before dealing with him and kind of knew how to deal with him. I sat down at the kiosk / bar at the beach and analysed this son of the devil. If you go for a session with a girl he introduces to you, he will get a commission (I think 20,000 pesos = 10 USD approx. , not really sure). Would I use Tony? Maybe just to introduce girls to me if I do not see any available. If a nice girl is at the beach even with someone, he will get there and bring her to you. One day I walked on the beach and did not see girls, asked Tony and I do not know where he brought like 6 sitting on the beach which I had not seen. He knows exactly where is everyone sitting.
Additional comments. I saw police presence at the beach and never saw a robbery. The beach is not nice. Not nice water, not nice sand. It is very hot. I found that the best time to hit the beach is 4-6 pm since there is less heat. However, women might be busy at that time. It depends on the luck. Another comment: Playa Hollywood is comprised of two sections: 1 for pro-girls and 1 for gays. Ensure you get a chair in the section which best suits your taste.
La Dolce Vita (LDV).
It is a bar with beautiful working freelancers girls. Quantity is about 20-30 girls. Quality is from 7 to 10. I saw like three 10's. Usually, there are more women than men. Best time to hit this place is 11-12:30. After 1 AM it starts to slow down. At 12 it is at its peak. I met 3 girls at this place. Saw more than 5 that I would do. Prices vary, it usually starts at 300,000 pesos = 150 USD. Prices of the drinks are similar to north America. E. g. , beer 7,000 pesos, rum and coke 7,500 pesos, shot of fine aguardiente 12,000 pesos.
Torre del Reloj (clock tower).
This is an open area, like a mini square. There are benches. There are lots of girls. Quality is usually not good, although you can find a hidden gem, if you are patient. Re: quality, I saw many 4-7 and a couple of 9's. Prices are cheap here (100,000 pesos = 50 USD). There are also lots of bums and bad Colombians males. There is also kind of strong police presence. Safety seems to be under control before 4 AM. After 4 AM it can get dangerous since the police leaves. Girls are even scared to be there after 4 am.
Tu Candela.
Rumor has it that there are freelancers in this place. It is a bar / club with the best atmosphere, in my opinion. I went to 3 other places (Mr. Babillia, Fragma, etc.) and Tu Candela had the best atmosphere. However, there are more men than women. I saw mixed groups and only a few women (4?) in groups of 2. I met a woman outside Tu Candela and told me that there are freelancers in this club but most times men meet them there and immediately start the party with them. Likewise, men meet women at another place and invite them to party to Candela. I never got lucky here because all women were busy with men. Note: no single women are allowed in this place (there are exceptions of course) and many of the girls outside in the clock tower are not allowed to get in. It seems that the owner has a strong policy. He allows only good quality freelancers (this is what a girl I took told me). BTW, I did not pay cover charge to get in (2 nights) and women have to pay like 20,000 pesos = 10 USD. Weird, huh?
Additional places to find women.
Some colleagues mentioned in this forum that sometimes you can find women walking by the main street San Martin in the Bocagrande area or in the Laguito area. I walked in San Martin from 6 to 8 pm and really enjoyed the walk. Lots of regular people, coffee shops, restaurants, buses for tourist, etc. I saw beautiful girls (Non Pro) in a very nice Colombian coffee shop named Juan Valdez. But I did not see PRO girls in San Martin, maybe I was not lucky. However, I walked on the main street during the day in the Laguito area and yes I saw working girls and even talked to some of them and got some numbers. Next time, I would walk, find a small bar / restaurant by the street, sit down, grab a beer and watch women walking by. BTW, a working girl told me that some women go to a place named Cafe Napoleon after the beach to find gringos; however, I could not find it.
Women in general.
Are Colombian women beautiful? Yes, but obviously not all women. Are they the most beautiful? I am not sure. I have seen beautiful girls in north America as well. I have been to Cuba, Costa Rica, Brazil and now Colombia. I have seen beautiful girls in all those places. I like curvy. I think maybe Cubans, Jamaicans, Caribbeans and north American tend to be more curvy, Brazilians in second. Do Colombian women provide good service? Well, I got nice service, not the best but nice service. Maybe Brazilian and some north American women have provided me the best service. But north American women are expensiveBTW, I find incredible that pro girls are very cheap in Latin / South America compared to north America (100 USD in South America to 500 USD in north America for a 9-10 girl). Anyways, I will post in different forum my comparison of hobbying in all those places.
Note: my Colombian girlfriend told me that both Colombian and Venezuelan women are very horny. They love sex. They talk about sex. They cheat on their husbands / boyfriends. She even told me that her neighbour (married regular family female) lets another neighbour fuck her while for some $ while his husband is working. Anyways, funny stories she told me. Conclusion: those women are horny, which I like very much)).
Hotels.
I stayed at Dann. It was ok. Service was good. It is the only hotel with direct access to Playa Hollywood and free chairs and umbrellas. However, the hotel is not chica friendly at all. They are very strict and I understand. It is a family oriented hotel. I saw many families with little kids. What I did for hobby was I used a short term hotel named Sol why Mar just a few steps from Tu Candela and the clock tower. I paid 30,000 pesos = 15 USD for 1 hour which was enough. Do not expect a nice hotel, though. Just the necessary. There are more short term hotels. Just ask the girl or the taxi driver. They all know them. Next time, I might use an apartment if I want to spend more time with a pro and have a GFE. But if you just want short term, a short term hotel will do.
Restaurants.
You can find very nice restaurants. I went to a French named Restaurante 1621 and it is one of the best restaurants I have ever been to. You can use trip advisor to find good ones. There are also low profile restaurants. I also mentioned a very nice Colombian Coffee shop named Juan Valdez where you can see regular people. I saw beautiful girls here. BTW, before you leave your country ensure you get vaccinations. I got stomach flu down there. I do not know what I ate or if it was the ice in my rums.
Cartagena, the city.
I liked downtown Cartagena very much. I like the architecture. It is very small though. I think in 2 hrs you can walk and know everything. I liked the atmosphere. It was nice to see regular people walking on the streets. I liked the live music on the streets as well. If you meet a nice girl, it is a nice idea to bring her down there for an evening. I also felt safe except when I went out of a short term hotel at 5 am.
Safety.
I was really afraid of going to Colombia for a number of reasons. However, I felt very safe in Cartagena. Lots of police presence, maybe that's why. Kudos to the mayor of Cartagena and the Colombian government for this. It is hard to balance prostitution and safety. Well, this place does it. I hope our first world leaders learn the positive aspects of this hobby model. It is the place in my list for hobby where I have felt the safest.
Would I repeat? Mmmmmmmm. Not in the short run.[/QUOTE]