Phnom Penh

[QUOTE=Riverstar;1924763]However from what I see now many of the girls have become hard nosed pushy and grabbing.[/QUOTE]That is unfortunately true and might get us straight to the decent, I know how to spell it, the decent working girl.

Now what is a decent wore? (I know how to spell that too, but one's not allowed).

Later I might inquire about honest politicians, safe investments or blissful old age or other strange euphemisms though.

A decent pool player is not somebody who doesn't drop the pants or refuses to shake hands with the opponent, it is somebody who can hit the ball.

What Lonely wants printed out is just a decent human being. Common courtesy. Nice try nevertheless.

Well I just came back from Phnom Penh, and the things got a lot worse then they were earlier.

Night 1.

Went to the Butterfly Bar on the 136 Street at about 8 pm, not many customers but some hot chicks were inside, a pair of 8-8. 5 and several 7's, rest mediocre.

After some drinking a bought a lady drink for the one of the hotties, and went to play pool with her. After an hour or so and several lady drinks asked her if she wanted to come with me. And got rejected.

Bill=20 $ for drinks.

I said to myself OK fuck it I go to another one, so I went to the Pascha Bar, 7 or 9 girls inside, no customers.

All chicks are mediocre and 2 or 3 in their late 40 s, one was a 7.

Ordered a drink, and a lady drink to the 7 and asked her to go with me, so far so good, paid barfine 15 $ and the drinks 7-7.5 $.

So we went to the hotel, started the session and after 5 minutes she cummed, went to the bathroom to dress, and demanded 50 $.

I made the same mistake as the previous poster and haven't discussed the price beforehand, so we had some drama and in the end I gave her 40 and said to go away.

So in the end I spent like 80-100 $ that night, and got my dick barely wet.

All other nights were almost in the same manner, I go to a bar and try to barfine the hot ones and get rejected, those who went with me to the hotel start asking for 50 $ even after we cleared the price beforehand.

I am in my 30's, good looking and not fat, I also spent 2 weeks in Pattaya prior to Phnom Penh and hat a blast there for less money and without any hustle.

Here not only you are expected nowadays to overpay them, but in the end you don't even get any service for your money.

In order to get normal service and normal price, you have to act like a piece of crap, be strict and dominant, else they will fuck you over in a second.

Alone the fact that you have to "guess" who is up to go to fuck with you, is a complete bullshit.

My recommendation is to stay away from Phnom Penh, and spend your time in Pattaya.

Phnom Penh might be good for those who like to endless fights over the payment, service and so on. But for people who want it to go stress free, I think it would be better to spend your time elsewhere.

I fully agree Soulbrother. Even Pattaya is better value these days.

PP was great 10 years ago when you could fuck for 5 $ a pop and even less.

These days it has been spoiled by Asian customers and guys coming from Thailand who don't discuss prices and act like pussies in front of hookers.

See the result girls asking these days 3 weeks salary for a 5 mn shag!

What a joke!

Sorry to that a young in shape 30 year old Soulbrother was constantly rejected. Things must have changed a lot since I went there about 2 years ago and had no issues. I am also twice his age. He seemed to make some newbie mistakes and not be upfront with the women on the services and the price. I am also in shape, dress well, smell good. Look good and treat the women with respect. Also, I rarely buy women ladies drinks. I was getting shags from between $15-20. I might pop over later this year and see what is going on.

[QUOTE=SoulBrother;1931566]Well I just came back from Phnom Penh, and the things got a lot worse then they were earlier... [/QUOTE]I was in PP earlier in the year and had no such problems. Maybe you were just a bit unlucky.

[QUOTE=SoulBrother;1931566]Went to the Butterfly Bar on the 136 Street at about 8 pm, not many customers but some hot chicks were inside, a pair of 8-8. 5 and several 7's, rest mediocre.

After some drinking a bought a lady drink for the one of the hotties, and went to play pool with her. After an hour or so and several lady drinks asked her if she wanted to come with me. And got rejected.

Bill=20 $ for drinks.[/QUOTE]You didn't check that she goes with customers before shelling out on drinks for her? I'm not wanting to be harsh, but it doesn't matter where you're mongering, you always check that a girl is going to let you barfine her before investing in multiple drinks. It's not just in PP that the hottest girls can make a good living off lady drinks without having to go fucking random strangers.

[QUOTE=SoulBrother;1931566]I said to myself OK fuck it I go to another one, so I went to the Pascha Bar, 7 or 9 girls inside, no customers.

All chicks are mediocre and 2 or 3 in their late 40 s, one was a 7.

Ordered a drink, and a lady drink to the 7 and asked her to go with me, so far so good, paid barfine 15 $ and the drinks 7-7.5 $.

So we went to the hotel, started the session and after 5 minutes she cummed, went to the bathroom to dress, and demanded 50 $.

I made the same mistake as the previous poster and haven't discussed the price beforehand, so we had some drama and in the end I gave her 40 and said to go away.

So in the end I spent like 80-100 $ that night, and got my dick barely wet.[/QUOTE]She actually pretended to cum after 5 minutes and pushed you off before you'd finished? Although I find that very hard to believe, if it's true it's outrageous. As for the price, as with my previous point about checking that a girl will barfine before investing several lady drinks into her, discussing the price before leaving the bar is also Mongering 101. I freely admit that I sometimes neglect to do it, but I realize that it's my own fault when the fee turns out to be higher than I'd expected.

[QUOTE=SoulBrother;1931566]All other nights were almost in the same manner, I go to a bar and try to barfine the hot ones and get rejected, those who went with me to the hotel start asking for 50 $ even after we cleared the price beforehand.

I am in my 30's, good looking and not fat, I also spent 2 weeks in Pattaya prior to Phnom Penh and hat a blast there for less money and without any hustle.

Here not only you are expected nowadays to overpay them, but in the end you don't even get any service for your money...[/QUOTE]I guess it pays to remember that you're not out trying to pick up a date; you're trying to hire a prostitute, so being just because you're middle aged and not fat (I'll ignore the good looking part as that's subjective) doesn't mean they're necessarily going to fawn all over you. As I mentioned before, many of the true hotties can make a very comfortable living off lady drinks. Why would they go off fucking random strangers if they don't need to?

As for the prices in PP being steep, I do agree that they've risen very quickly without the quality necessarily keeping pace. Still, this seems to be the same in many places. The barfines in Angeles City have also increased quickly whilst the standard of girls in the bar has fallen.

Personally, I enjoy PP as a destination far more than I do Pattaya. Obviously it doesn't have the variety that Pattaya does, and the prices are comparable, but there are still enough girls to keep most people happy. We all have different tastes and whilst I could happily spend a month between PP and Sihanoukville, I find Pattaya does my head in after a week.

[QUOTE=SoulBrother;1931566]Well I just came back from Phnom Penh, and the things got a lot worse then they were earlier.
Phnom Penh might be good for those who like to endless fights over the payment, service and so on. But for people who want it to go stress free, I think it would be better to spend your time elsewhere.[/QUOTE]I don't understand why you guys have so many problems in Phnom Penh. I am in my late fifties and fat. Most times I have no problems with the girls in Phnom Penh. The difference to Pattaya is probably that most girls in Cambodia only go with a customer if they like him. A girl can say no to me and 5 minuts later say yes to you. Most girls say yes to me, hehe.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?937-Phnom-Penh&p=1894254[/URL]#post1894254. See my report from 06-15-16

[QUOTE=AskeAske;1932028]I don't understand why you guys have so many problems in Phnom Penh. I am in my late fifties and fat. Most times I have no problems with the girls in Phnom Penh. The difference to Pattaya is probably that most girls in Cambodia only go with a customer if they like him. A girl can say no to me and 5 minuts later say yes to you. Most girls say yes to me, hehe.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?937-Phnom-Penh&p=1894254[/URL]#post1894254. See my report from 06-15-16[/QUOTE]Maybe the problem is that the "most" girls that say yes to you, soul brother and his types would reply bay no way (ID be paying to have sex with you), I mean there was a poster recently who proudly posted pics of girls he picked up from SM and my god they looked like drugged out 40 and 50 yrs old, I wouldn't even have sex with if they paid me 50 usd. My experience is that yes most girls will go with me but that top 1% of gals who can earn a good living for milking LD or have a local / foreign sponsor won't go with guys regardless, and then the next 5% of gal will try to milk you for LD, so overall its not a very good environment unless you like to bottom feed.

[QUOTE=MutantChicken;1932064]Maybe the problem is that the "most" girls that say yes to you, soul brother and his types would reply bay no way (ID be paying to have sex with you), I mean there was a poster recently who proudly posted pics of girls he picked up from SM and my god they looked like drugged out 40 and 50 yrs old, I wouldn't even have sex with if they paid me 50 usd. My experience is that yes most girls will go with me but that top 1% of gals who can earn a good living for milking LD or have a local / foreign sponsor won't go with guys regardless, and then the next 5% of gal will try to milk you for LD, so overall its not a very good environment unless you like to bottom feed.[/QUOTE]MutantTrool, you don't know how my girls look. I remember the pictures. One mans trash is another mans treasure, but that kind of girl is not my treasure. This is from March which is the last time I had time to do some mongering in PP.

"Day 1: Took a FL girl from Sorya Mall. Only 19 years old, no children. Sweet, totally GFE.

Day 2: Took a massage on France Street (between what Prom and Japanese Bridge). She asked if I wanted extra. I wanted, but only in my room. She was off duty at 11 pm and came to my hotel. 28 years old, one baby but a good body.

Day 3: Went to bar in Street 104. Took a 21 year old girl from a bar late at night. Very nice, no children, perfect body.

Day 4: Went to bar in Street 130. Took a 26 year old girl from Loco my last night alone. Very sweet girl and with a good body.

I had 4 days with beautiful women. No one refused to go with me. What more could a man ask for."

MutantTrool, maybe the girls refuse the to go with you, because you are greasy, poorly dressed and also rude.

Hey guys,

I'm going on my first trip to PP for a couple of days as a side trip from Pattaya in October. Have a couple of questions that maybe some of you can help me with.

1. What is the process after landing at the airport. I assume I will have to fill out an immigration card like I do for Thailand. I know I will have to bring a passport style picture for the visa but at what point does that come into play? When I'm going through immigration or just after? I also know the visa is around $30.

2. What is the average cost for a tuk tuk from the airport into the city? I have seen somewhere that is it in the $8-15 but haven't been able to confirm it.

3. The girls. Are the beer bars, places the same as in Pattaya? What I mean is, do you simply walk in and look around before settling on a woman to talk to?

4. Most important, how do you tell if the women are of the legal age? Yeah, I can ask for the ID but, since I can't speak / read the language how do you determine their age from their ID?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Wanderer9577;1932260]
1. What is the process after landing at the airport. I assume I will have to fill out an immigration card like I do for Thailand. I know I will have to bring a passport style picture for the visa but at what point does that come into play? When I'm going through immigration or just after? I also know the visa is around $30.

2. What is the average cost for a tuk tuk from the airport into the city? I have seen somewhere that is it in the $8-15 but haven't been able to confirm it.

3. The girls. Are the beer bars, places the same as in Pattaya? What I mean is, do you simply walk in and look around before settling on a woman to talk to?

4. Most important, how do you tell if the women are of the legal age? Yeah, I can ask for the ID but, since I can't speak / read the language how do you determine their age from their ID?

[/QUOTE]1. [URL]http://www.movetocambodia.com/planning-your-move-to-cambodia/cambodia-visas/[/URL].

2. 9 dollar.

3. Read this tread a couble of pages back and you get the answer.

4. You must be sure that they are over 18. If not you can get in big trouble. I prefer girls from 20 years old, so I am not an expert.

[QUOTE=AskeAske;1932497]1. [URL]http://www.movetocambodia.com/planning-your-move-to-cambodia/cambodia-visas/[/URL].

2. 9 dollar.

3. Read this tread a couble of pages back and you get the answer.

4. You must be sure that they are over 18. If not you can get in big trouble. I prefer girls from 20 years old, so I am not an expert.[/QUOTE]Thanks! Yeah, I want to be sure they are legal age but how can you find out even with their ID? We all know how a lot of these ladies look way younger than they really are. If they are working in a bar is that a good indication?

[QUOTE=AskeAske;1932497]
3. Read this tread a couble of pages back and you get the answer.

4. You must be sure that they are over 18. If not you can get in big trouble. I prefer girls from 20 years old, so I am not an expert.[/QUOTE]3. A few selected bars are pure take-out joints but for most other bars, not all girls at the bars will go out so make sure after first drink or else you'll be in for a surprise.

4. If you're bringing back to hotel, make sure they have ID or else you'll run into problems.

[QUOTE=AskeAske;1932179]

I had 4 days with beautiful women. No one refused to go with me. What more could a man ask for."
[/QUOTE]I would concur with AskeAske, it's been some time since I visited but I had good 5 days. There are those odd cherry girls but more for the picking comparatively. Besides we also have Naga and Pontoon to hunt. So things should sail smoothly unless one is being stuck up about the experience he has had in LOS or Philippines.

I have been planning to return for quite some time and hope it works out soon. My guess is that the only thing if was to change would be the prices in PNH.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1932557]3. A few selected bars are pure take-out joints but for most other bars, not all girls at the bars will go out so make sure after first drink or else you'll be in for a surprise.

4. If you're bringing back to hotel, make sure they have ID or else you'll run into problems.[/QUOTE]I always made sure the ladies I was with in Bangkok and Pattaya had their IDs so I will make sure to do the same in PP. As far as the pure take out places, could you name a couple. Being there for only 2 days, I don't mind hunting around, but if all else fails a few sure bet places would be great. At the moment, I'm counting down and the days can't seem to go fast enough.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Wanderer9577;1932260]Hey guys,

3. The girls. Are the beer bars, places the same as in Pattaya? What I mean is, do you simply walk in and look around before settling on a woman to talk to?

4. Most important, how do you tell if the women are of the legal age? Yeah, I can ask for the ID but, since I can't speak / read the language how do you determine their age from their ID?

Thanks![/QUOTE]Obviously it's easiest to start in bars. I suggest Street 130 bars one block back from the river. Honeypot, Angry Birds, - maybe Loco. Going earlier, you will have a pick of girls but as Aske says. Not all go with customers. So at Honeypot or Angry Birds talk to the western managers who are always on site (William I think and Bill). They will help you narrow down the girls that match what you are looking for.

I see so many guys wandering in bars not knowing how to find what they want. But all you have to do is ask. That's the advantage of having good bar western owners and managers present on site every day. The girls at these bars are all of legal age and the bars seem to to be run ethically but again chat to the owners / managers and they will show you how to read the ID cards and help you. These guys live in Cambodia and spend every night dealing with these sorts of questions and probably know more than most of the people here whose experiences are based on less time in country. I always found these guys willing to give up to date and accurate info on the scene in PP. You can branch out from the bars once you get a feel for the place. Just my opinion!

Enjoy your trip!!