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[QUOTE=GoodEnough]Not easy to precipitate any sort of sustained political action in a country of 7,000+ islands, when those 85 million or so residents who do not live in Manila, are largely indifferent to what transpires there. I think the number of families controlling 90+ percent of the country's wealth is actually closer to 250 than to seven, but I guess it doesn't really matter. As to eliminating the church, I think when you're abysmally poor, with little hope for the present life, the church, as corrupt as it is, may be the only solace for lots of people.

GE[/QUOTE]
It is like any other third world country. Few giant companies controlling the wealth of the whole nation.
It is no use getting rid of the Church. These people find solace in the church in spite of absolute poverty. Religion and faith hold the country together, otherwise there would be chaos. Churches also do social programs like food and clothes donation collected from other countries.
Cannot get rid of large companies controlling the economy. It is like breaking the spokes of the wheel. The whole economy will collapse leading to anarchy.
Only thing which can be done is decentralisation of the economy with local people starting their own factories producing products and selling. Other way is taxing big companies and giving the money to small entrpreners to start their industry. I have travelled to many provinces but none have really big factories providing jobs for locals. All have to travel to big cities to find employment. This is how many girls end up in LA cafe , AC , EDSA, Makati etc.
While it is a boon for us mongers this economy sustains a very small minority.
I had a GF whose father is a fisherman. He told me he catches lots of fish. But he cannot sell them outright. He leaves them at the market and if the fish is sold he gets a portion of the profit. If it is not sold atleast he can take it home and provide food for his children. Bottom line is he has no incentive to work hard and fish more.
Although I should say the government is building new roads and some infrastructure. But the population is a drag on any economy if the country does not progress like China and India.

This is not about our favourite pass time. I first visited Philippines in 1976. If anything, things are worse than in 1976 but in places like China and even Vietnam, things are so much better. Theirs is a hypocritical culture but the people are hard working and intelligent; their leaders stuffed them up big time.

[QUOTE=Sammon]...Only thing which can be done is decentralisation of the economy with local people starting their own factories producing products and selling. Other way is taxing big companies and giving the money to small entrpreners to start their industry...[/QUOTE]

Let's not forget the OFWs ([url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overseas_Filipino#Economic_impact[/url]).

Maybe, export the one thing that's bogging them.

[QUOTE=Sammon]
Only thing which can be done is decentralisation of the economy with local people starting their own factories producing products and selling. [/QUOTE]

Unfortunately, the Filipino people aren't generally the entreprenurial type.

[QUOTE=ManonsanBoy]The Philippines need to get rid of 2 things:

the Catholic church and the seven families (very closely tied together). They need a revolution.[/QUOTE]

IMO, without an armed revolution, none of us will live long enough to see the Philippines become a first world nation.

Aside from revolution, the Philippines needs leaders who love their country more than they love themselves. The Philippines leadership is filled with people who only care about lining their own pockets.

[QUOTE=ManonsanBoy]The Philippines need to get rid of 2 things: the Catholic church and the seven families (very closely tied together). They need a revolution.[/QUOTE]


Why? Would it effect our hobby? I would, however, doubt it! :)

Cheers!

Hesekiels

[QUOTE=ManonsanBoy]This is not about our favourite pass time. I first visited Philippines in 1976. If anything, things are worse than in 1976 but in places like China and even Vietnam, things are so much better. Theirs is a hypocritical culture but the people are hard working and intelligent; their leaders stuffed them up big time.[/QUOTE]


It all started with Marcos (about 40 years ago) when he created the 7 families and destroyed the free market system in the Phils. At that time, all of the entrepreneurial Chinese families ended up fleeing the country and the country lost its edge in Asia. Marcos created those families in order to consolidate his hold on the country and build his (non-benevolent) dictatorship.

a few notes from my visit to ac this past week:

- that story below about the investigators getting fired - that was also the team that shut down pony tails; word in knowledgeable circles was that the owner refused to pay a bribe, hence the shutdown.

- place was crowded as ever; no let up there. most bars still had multiple "doorgirls" outside, with the exception of the dollhouse group (which pony tails is part of).

- they announced that the pony tails girls would be in emperor's lounge (above club asia); i didn't recognize any of them, though, when i went to check it out.

- t-backs were also seen in places i'll leave to the imagination on a public board.

- dmia security confirep001ed my cheap $2 whisky at the gate. boo.

recommendations:
- dirty duck/forbidden city: terrible layouts, expensive ladies drinks, and extremely pushy staff, but damn if they don't have some of the wildest girls on fields at the moment.

- dollhouse - seems to have improved their collection as of late. more crowded than previously as well.

- black angus steak house - gf of hotel royal amsterdam - big, fresh (for ac) salad bar included in most entrees til 11, huge portions, good meat.

"un" recommendations:
- the international pub (formerly shano's) - changed their menu again, seems yet more expensive (and smaller)

- tropix - seems to be slowly dying the good death, but i could have gone there on an off night.

~ca

[QUOTE=Crazy Ami]A few notes from my visit to AC this past week:
- T-Backs were also seen in places I'll leave to the imagination on a public board.

~CA[/QUOTE]Forgive my ignorance. T-Backs? Dunno what they / that is / are.

Coming to AC next week--I might need to know?

[QUOTE=Shark San]Forgive my ignorance. T-Backs? Dunno what they / that is / are.

Coming to AC next week--I might need to know?[/QUOTE]

Also known as thongs ;)

I posted this in another forum and I think it will fit here:

I spent the last four days in AC and I took a British friend (51) for his cherry trip. I wish that I would have taken a picture of his face in the first club :D

He is a shy guy and he has been in Cebu twice and Manila three times, but never bar hopped with me :D He was not too sure how to interact with the girls and I was trying to take him in slow and in his first bar he pointed to girl that my bar fine knew, who I had brought a drink for, and said that he would like to take her. During the LD he spoke 10 words to her and she did not really talk to him, but doing her job she said sure.

The next morning I asked him how was it and he told me that she okay, but not great. That afternoon we went into TI at noon and due to seats being full we sat at the table and I brought 5 LD's for friends there and we laughed and joked for an hour and my friend was amazed watching it all unfold.

We left there and went up to Niffy's for the PI@N bar hop and as we arrived early we had sometime to play with the girls and one girl went up to him and started playing around and joking with him. I saw him relaxing and having fun and before we left he asked her to go and she said yes.

Long story short, Saturday morning I asked him how it was and his smile was so big when he told me that it was the best that he had in the PI and the best he had in years.

I explained to him how it important to let the girl pick him and not just point and shoot. Well yesterday we started at LIA around 2:30 with Tonka Toy and did a shot bar hop and when we got to Honey Ko's the setting was perfect (only us sitting at the bar and a lot of sexy dancers) and it took him 5 minutes to let a girl pick him and this morning he told me that he had another wonderful night.

Some guys like point and shoot, but I think the girl should pick you. JMHO

Edit: By the way, he told me that he is ruined for life and he DID NOT want to leave and this morning at 5 am in the Manila airport we planned another trip in a week.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]In the aftermath of the tragi-comedy of the bus hijacking fiasco, the bottom has fallen out of the tourism sector here. Articles like this will provide additional nails in the coffin. It seems the greed, incompetence and pervasive corruption of virtually every sector of the country are finally coming to the attention of the world's public, and that the knowledge is no longer restricted to the donor governments. Who knows? Maybe the general public in this sad, failed country will finally cry "enough," and start to demand some radical change.

GE[/QUOTE]I do hope that they "clean up" the corruption in the gov't and police force but don't "clean up" AC of all the bars and chicks( you know, the usual moral issue BS) like they've been doing all over asia.

FZ

[QUOTE=Robbaf]Some guys like point and shoot, but I think the girl should pick you. JMHO[/QUOTE]I hear you bro and do somewhat agree with you as this was how I did it in Thailand way back when. But the few days I spent in AC I did try this method but it couldn't work as the ladies interested in me and came over were down right fat and ugly and a few were way over their expiration date. I find that many are interested in you, me and just about anyone cumming thru the down had no choice as they know we would NEVER pick them so they have to make the 1st move.--just my experiences and strictly point of view.

Cheers and Beers,

FZ

[quote=robbaf]........ we planned another trip in a week.[/quote]
will be there 4th till 12th of sep.
you too? or poopbunny?

anyone else for a cold one?
cheers!

[quote=ekspat]will be there 4th till 12th of sep.
you too? or poopbunny?

anyone else for a cold one?
cheers![/quote]
no:( i am going to cebu. finally air phil is flying again and it will be my first visit since april.

i am scheduling a ac trip for 23 to 28 september:d

are you staying at the lg? i did my last trip and it will be the last time i ever stay there. i think they are taking all the profit and buying bars and not putting any money back in the hotel:(

started with manila airport pickup:( they had no hotel cars available so they contracted a manila company to pick me up. driver was 30 minutes late, and it was an airport yellow cab that cannot leave the airport without a customer slip. driver wanted me and my cherry boy to walk out of terminal parking lot (in the pouring rain) and wait on the street for him...i was like no way jose. he finally shot the gate, after driving around airport for 20 minutes, doing 60 kph and when they tried to stop him, he kept going.

okay we got out of airport and he doesn't take edsa off the skyway. i asked him where are you going??? he said he knows a short cut...two hours later he is lost and we end up on edsa about five miles from the airport. all told it was a four hour taxi ride from hell.

we arrive ac and the guy is driving around and i asked him if he knew where the hotel was and he said yes. i then ask him why he is going in the wrong direction...

arrive at the hotel and talk to the manager and he said, "sorry...something happened, i don't know what, not our fault! it was the manila company, not the hotel who picked you up". i asked him if i contacted the hotel or the taxi to pick us up??? no reply.

both rooms booked and the ac was not working right. rooms were 80 degrees. my last stay in the hotel in july my ac did not work and i had to move rooms at 1 am:(

the toilet kept running over in my buddy's room and the whole visit he had 2" of water on his bathroom floor...i could go on and on.

robb

[quote=ekspat]will be there 4th till 12th of sep.
you too? or poopbunny?
anyone else for a cold one?
cheers![/quote]

just returned from ac :(