Phnom Penh

Been in PP for a few days with work so options to bring back to hotel not easy. Decided to try Cycree to see what that is like. Found it very easily and walked into the bar. Small bar with about 15 girls when I arrived. Most looked about 20 years old with petite bodies and very cute faces. Not the most stunning girls but compared to western stuff that I have to put up with they are dolls.

Spotted one that had a very nice rack and very pretty face. A few minutes talking and a drink and we were off to a nearby hotel. Very nice body with very firm breasts. Overall not quite a GFE but very attentive and keen to please. I think next time will be a lot better as we struck a bit of a connection.

Overall the place is worth of visit if you want a quick time with the comfort of being off the radar so to speak. Price, well I will say that it was money well spent. Will be back for another round.

Happy hunting.

[QUOTE=AussieFella;1935762]I meant that all girls I've seen in PP bars were clearly over the age of 18. Most easily in their early to mid 20's. Still, if you see anyone who you think may possibly be not of legal age, you should probably rule her out if you're worried about fucking anyone illegal.[/QUOTE]Thanks! That is what I thought you meant but wanted to confirm. I now have 7 days to go before hopping the plane to Bangkok, Pattaya, PP and then back to Bangkok for trip back home.

Hi,

Anyone has experience heading to Massa Street 252?

I'm wondering if I were to opt for full service would that include Sex & BJ?

Also is condom provided or I would need to get one outside.

Lastly is it a safe place to go to? I don't want to be scammed or robbed.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Mercer143;1936211]3) Convert USD to local Cambodian riels. (1 USD approx 4000 riels). In almost everyplace USD is accepted accepted with currency in return for small denomination in riels. There are two exchange inside the terminal, where you can change.[/QUOTE]Do NOT convert your USD to riels. The country uses USD $ and yes, when you pay in $, you will get some riels back. Keep $1, $5, $20.00 as these notes you will use mostly. Hotels you may pay by $100.00 notes. If you change your money to riels, you'll need a suitcase to carry the riels with you! Most things are cheap and hence you only need to carry small amount of currency with you. Generally, only in the country side riels are used more. But you do your simple conversion of $1 / 4000 riels are pay accordingly in dollar or from the bulging pockets where you have kept your riel change!

Massa is a safe place to go and you will have no issues with getting scammed unless your negotiation skills in the room cave in. Simply have your driver stay close by as I sent mine just up the road a bit for a drink and with instructions to have a cold one ready for me in an hour. Then head up and you will be greeted by the lady at the desk who will take to a small seating area to where you will view some average talent and ethnic backgrounds from within a small fishbowl. Choose and pay the 10 bucks. The desk lady is not too friendly or pushy. Your chosen cum dumpster will guide you up another flight of stairs to a dingy room where the air conditioning is activated. Up to you on shower but she will have one immediately. Upon return the half ass massage begins. BTW, have her tape that cardboard flap over the small door window as to not have the onlookers. She will have the extra small condoms and would recommend you bring your own. It seems the initial Boom quote is always a hundred and have always got them down to 40 which includes the oral prep work pre boom. The girl will take you to the shower and clean you up after. Watch your step up into this rear slippery cubicle and bring your belongings in their with you. It ain't the most sanitary looking shower or room but I enjoy the service and attitudes of the girls. Up to you on tip but they have been all happy with the $40.

[QUOTE=FreeWillyBruh2;1939046]Massa is a safe place to go and you will have no issues with getting scammed unless your negotiation skills in the room cave in. Simply have your driver stay close by as I sent mine just up the road a bit for a drink and with instructions to have a cold one ready for me in an hour. Then head up and you will be greeted by the lady at the desk who will take to a small seating area to where you will view some average talent and ethnic backgrounds from within a small fishbowl. Choose and pay the 10 bucks. The desk lady is not too friendly or pushy. Your chosen cum dumpster will guide you up another flight of stairs to a dingy room where the air conditioning is activated. Up to you on shower but she will have one immediately. Upon return the half ass massage begins. BTW, have her tape that cardboard flap over the small door window as to not have the onlookers. She will have the extra small condoms and would recommend you bring your own. It seems the initial Boom quote is always a hundred and have always got them down to 40 which includes the oral prep work pre boom. The girl will take you to the shower and clean you up after. Watch your step up into this rear slippery cubicle and bring your belongings in their with you. It ain't the most sanitary looking shower or room but I enjoy the service and attitudes of the girls. Up to you on tip but they have been all happy with the $40.[/QUOTE]I been getting P4P for 20 bucks, around the world forever. And Cambodia is much poorer than most. You wimps are driving up prices!

[QUOTE=Wanderer9577;1937539]Thanks! That is what I thought you meant but wanted to confirm. I now have 7 days to go before hopping the plane to Bangkok, Pattaya, PP and then back to Bangkok for trip back home.[/QUOTE]This under* debate keeps me quite amused. I ponder is it the fact that they are not legal that gets people off, is it that they are ephebophile or worse, or is it purely a looks young type scenario.

Compared to where I'm from many girls in these countries could pass for being under* but due to their birth certificate they are at times 25/26.

I remember not long ago in Phil I had a little spinner and her ass could fit in my hand and I was laying there thinking if I close my eyes this could be a 9/10 year old (not that that's what I'm all about). And yes she was legal.

Also their "prettiness" of their face makes them look much younger and at times innocent.

So how about check ID, check facts, do a few tests as recommended and then close your eyes and imagine.

Isn't it all a fantasy anyway. Or GO TO JAIL. GO STRAIGHT TO JAIL.

My thoughts.

[QUOTE=Lonely566;1939170]I been getting P4P for 20 bucks, around the world forever. And Cambodia is much poorer than most. You wimps are driving up prices![/QUOTE]Perhaps but this American sausage ain't no 3 minute champ. They are treated well and driven long and hard for that 40 bucks and earn every penny bruh!

[QUOTE=FreeWillyBruh2;1939046]Massa is a safe place to go and you will have no issues with getting scammed unless your negotiation skills in the room cave in. Simply have your driver stay close by as I sent mine just up the road a bit for a drink and with instructions to have a cold one ready for me in an hour. Then head up and you will be greeted by the lady at the desk who will take to a small seating area to where you will view some average talent and ethnic backgrounds from within a small fishbowl. Choose and pay the 10 bucks. The desk lady is not too friendly or pushy. Your chosen cum dumpster will guide you up another flight of stairs to a dingy room where the air conditioning is activated. Up to you on shower but she will have one immediately. Upon return the half ass massage begins. BTW, have her tape that cardboard flap over the small door window as to not have the onlookers. She will have the extra small condoms and would recommend you bring your own. It seems the initial Boom quote is always a hundred and have always got them down to 40 which includes the oral prep work pre boom. The girl will take you to the shower and clean you up after. Watch your step up into this rear slippery cubicle and bring your belongings in their with you. It ain't the most sanitary looking shower or room but I enjoy the service and attitudes of the girls. Up to you on tip but they have been all happy with the $40.[/QUOTE]I don't know if there is much point in posting this, but here is the current situation at Yang Mei formerly known as Yang Chou on street 252 (people referring to it as 'Massa' on this board are simply parroting drivers saying 'massage'.

[B]The price for one hour is $6.[/B] Not $10, never has been, and considering what a filthy dump the place is never should be. [B]For sex I give the girl $25 on top of that,[/B] have never paid more there. The quality just isn't worth it.

Those are the prices at time of writing. If anyone wants to take note and profit from this well and good, but I don't have high hopes. Surely in a week or so another poster will be writing about managing to get the girls there for 'just $50'.

I'm guessing, but presume drivers are always taking punters to YM when asked for 'massa' because they are getting a kick back from the mamasan. If you don't balk at being quoted a $10 ticket price it gives the signal that the girls can charge you double or more.

Had a week in PP but limited in action due to work commitments. I did manage to check out a few of the bars along the river front. Was a few years since I was last in the bars but not much has changed. Dropped into the regular ones that are mentioned in the forums but did not find anything to my liking. Was walking past the Helicoptor bar and saw a lot of girls out the front. One particularly appealed to me as she was taller and well built. Decided to say Hello, and then went into the bar. Standard bar with seats and a long drinking bar and pool table down the back. Proceeded to play pool with my date and a few of her friends. After a about one hour we left with a friend and hit a few clubs. Eventually we ended up at Pontoon. Has not changed much since I was last there. Usual high number of FLs as well as backpackers and expats. Place was pumping for a week night and there were some very attractive girls there. However I had two of my own so I was pretty happy with my lot.

Eventually took my date back to the hotel although it was very late. Had a great session, very GFE and great technique. Decided that she was a keeper so I got her number and had a few nights with her after work. Great fun and a really good companion.

Did also try Darlin Darlin. Yes the girls thee are dressed nicer and present well, however I have been around the high end bars over the years and find that the service is too unpredictable to justify the price. Decided that the night was better spent looking and not buying. Maybe next time when I have a lot more time.

In all, PP was as I remembered it. Lots and lots of girls and the cost is still great value compared to a lot of the other hunting grounds.

Keep hunting.

I need to make a Thai visa run and have decided to head to PP. Having been disappointed with Singapore last run I hope to make amends in PP.

I've been reading my way backwards and am now in July, 2016 posts. I have also read the fantastic reviews from IllusionHeart from August, 2015. Thank you everyone for your contributions. My apologies but I will likely have a few newbie questions this week. Yes, a field report after my 2-3 day trip will follow.

Out of the places I have read to date, LE Cyrcee is likely the place I would lean towards. I like simple easy pick a girl and go type places. Thermae in Bangkok would be the best example of what I like. I'd much prefer to take these girls to a nicer hotel than a ST room but have also read comments that Cyrcee girls want to get the deed done in 10 minutes. How much time are they willing to spend with me to come back to my room near Riverside?

Also, does it make a big difference if I check these places out on a Mon Tue vs. A Fri Sat? Do many girls only work weekends or do they seem to work 7 days a week like Thai girls? I see from the Cyrcee website it's open from 6 pm til 2 am. What time do most of the girls show up?

Are these Cyrcee photos recent? There are definitely some I would go for in the photos.

Finally, I have a preference to petite skinny cute Vietnamese girls preferably under 30. Any leads to some bars where I can find some would be great. No interest in 40 year olds.

My apologies if my questions have been answered in the posts I have already read. Thanks for helping this PP newbie out.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1945139]I need to make a Thai visa run and have decided to head to PP. Having been disappointed with Singapore last run I hope to make amends in PP.

I've been reading my way backwards and am now in July, 2016 posts. I have also read the fantastic reviews from IllusionHeart from August, 2015. Thank you everyone for your contributions. My apologies but I will likely have a few newbie questions this week. Yes, a field report after my 2-3 day trip will follow.

Out of the places I have read to date, LE Cyrcee is likely the place I would lean towards. I like simple easy pick a girl and go type places. Thermae in Bangkok would be the best example of what I like. I'd much prefer to take these girls to a nicer hotel than a ST room but have also read comments that Cyrcee girls want to get the deed done in 10 minutes. How much time are they willing to spend with me to come back to my room near Riverside?

Also, does it make a big difference if I check these places out on a Mon Tue vs. A Fri Sat? Do many girls only work weekends or do they seem to work 7 days a week like Thai girls? I see from the Cyrcee website it's open from 6 pm til 2 am. What time do most of the girls show up?

Are these Cyrcee photos recent? There are definitely some I would go for in the photos.

Finally, I have a preference to petite skinny cute Vietnamese girls preferably under 30. Any leads to some bars where I can find some would be great. No interest in 40 year olds.

My apologies if my questions have been answered in the posts I have already read. Thanks for helping this PP newbie out.[/QUOTE]I'm in PP now and was looking for some cute Vietnamese spinners. Didn't find any, but then again I got stuck at the 5th bar I visited. I was planning to check out cyrcee until I met a cute spinner at the 5th bar and just had to bar fine her.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1945139]I'd much prefer to take these girls to a nicer hotel than a ST room but have also read comments that Cyrcee girls want to get the deed done in 10 minutes. How much time are they willing to spend with me to come back to my room near Riverside?[/QUOTE]10 minutes seems like an exaggeration, but they talk about the professional hour, which is 50 minutes. For the ST room across the street, my guess is that they'll make a comment at the 40 minute mark so they can leave at the 50 minute mark. But of course, YMMV.

The popular girls might be hesitate to go to the Riverside hotel for the standard 1 hour ST. Since it takes time to drive to and back from the Riverside, some of the girls don't want to go there for just 1 hour. For their standard ST tip, the girls will ask for $30, but they should accept $25. What I do is to offer them $40 for 2 hours to go to my Riverside hotel. All the girls will accept that offer. Not sure how much lower tip amount they'll accept. Also, the unpopular desperate girls should accept less for more time.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1945139]Also, does it make a big difference if I check these places out on a Mon Tue vs. A Fri Sat?[/QUOTE]Only difference is the crowds. More busy on Saturday.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1945139]Do many girls only work weekends or do they seem to work 7 days a week like Thai girls? I see from the Cyrcee website it's open from 6 pm til 2 am. What time do most of the girls show up?[/QUOTE]Most of them work 7 days a week. They do leave sometimes for their provinces. Hassan, the owner, is strict with the girls. If a popular girl is sick, he makes them come in, and sleep it off upstairs. He's afraid of the girls going out with the customers without paying the barfine.

Most of the girls show up around 6 or 7, although they will be upstairs putting on make-up. The girls need to come in early, or else the bar penalizes them by not giving them their commission for their lady drinks.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1945139]Are these Cyrcee photos recent? There are definitely some I would go for in the photos.[/QUOTE]It seems several years old. Some girls in the 4 pictures repeat. There are a few girls in those pictures that are still working there. IMO, there will be 2 or 3 you will like, especially if you like 3-somes!

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1945139]Finally, I have a preference to petite skinny cute Vietnamese girls preferably under 30. Any leads to some bars where I can find some would be great. No interest in 40 year olds.[/QUOTE]In 2004, the answer would have been easy, and you would have been absolutely satisfied. Right now, I'm not sure.

You could do a visa run to Saigon for the skinny cute Viets.

Thanks so much, Greenbud. I have no problem paying 2-3 hours. Just much rather be in a nicer place than a ST hotel. My first option was Ho Chi Minh over PP but getting info on Vietnam is like pulling teeth and would be too frustrating for me to go to a place, see a super hot girl, only to find out she doesn't boom boom. You answered my most important question well. I will go to PP earlier in the week. Same girls and fewer guys is always better imo.

Sock, let us know if you find any Vietnamese or any great places this week.

I spent some time bar hopping and want to point out some things.

There are alot more lady boys. For the well trained eye, they don't hold up against ladyboys in thailand, so veterans should be able to spot them easily.

Many bars seem to have 1 or 2 lady boys mixed in with the girls. This is not my preference because the ones in PP are on the aggressive side and I'd rather not have one stroking my arm or face in the line up with real girls. I prefer how it is in thailand, where ladyboys have their own bar. Its not 100% true, but mostly.

Candy Bar is a ladyboy bar. A few real ladies mixed in, but avoid it if you don't like ladyboys.

Candy Bar, Butterfly bar and 69 bar are owned by the same guy. The girls travel between those bars freely, including the lady boys.

Still didn't find any viet girls. I'm not sure where to look, so I'll probably start asking the next night I'm out.

Barfine is $10 at every single bar I went to. I hit up about 10 of them. I think its standard across the board. The price of the girl is negotiated with the girl. I was able to take a 21 year old spinner, flawless skin, no kids and a 8 in my book for $50 long time. She started at $80 and I haggled down.

Not many girls are experienced in the art of pleasing a man. Many don't do BJ's or do them very poorly. I've yet to find a girl that will do anal. Not that I'm looking for anal, but just inquiring to see if the social stigma has changed. Many girls think something is wrong in your head if you like anal. Its a fun conversation to have with the girl. Keep in mind that my sample size is limited to young spinners under 25. I'm not interested in any of the bigger or older women.