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6) Next I think she ended up being with a rich Korean dude, actually trying to stop working for that entire period of time and devoted her time as a "housewive". He was basically a sugar daddy and gave her everything she wanted but wouldn't let her go out and drink.

Eventually he took off and left her and she was "heartbroken" since.

Then fast forward to valentine's day was when I first saw her.

After that night, we spent whole day together and she started to say how I reminded her of her first ex-japanese dude. And we went out a few times. I think she didn't work for the rest of that week because, she had been working every day and we ended up going out to the stripper bar for "fun". I thought it was likely totally fcuked up, to go there for a "date", where she was having fun with the strippers, and throwing down 1k on them when trying to get me hooked up with them.

7) Yeah I know everything you guys say is right. They have a different psychology of what is a "date"

What is a "relationship"

I know that unless I give everything up and get her out of Mexico, she will never be mine, and I know that as long as she is in Mexico she will keep on spinning her tricks and look for the next "Asian sugar daddy"

I know that a "freebie" is actually more costly than paying outright for sex

Ahhh Roxette. I gave her a CD of tunes with the Police song, Roxanne, so then she used to play that alot for one of her stage songs. Anyway, the last time I saw her was in Ensenada where she worked at Paris de Noche. Attached is a photo of her and friends from June 2006. And yes, I do remember Excalibar, the place close to Guau Guau and next to Mercado de Pasteles. This girl, Ambar, liked to bring me there for after hour recreation. I don't party much in Mexicali anymore because that's where my novia lives.

But let me know next time you plan to head down to Chicago Club. I'd be happy to buy you a drink.

[QUOTE=Joe Arturo;1288908]Wow! I haven't thought about Roxette for years. She was one of the best. This means that you were in Mexicali at the same time that I was living there. That was back when I had my bar in Mexicali. Did you ever go to Bar Pajaritas that later changed its name to Bar Excalibur?[/QUOTE]

For what its worth, here are my 2 pesos. Glad that you came to your conclusion in 7) , relationship / love / date / etc is all relative, what it means to us may not be the same meaning as it is to them. The common denominator is $$$ (and even that, the value is still somewhat relative, but less ambiguous, IMHO)

1) I had a girl who works on / off in the zona, only had me pay her once, but ever since then, always freebie, never asked me for money, and never calls / messages me unnecessarily. This is a great girl, but probably a horrible prostitute if she is doing the same for other guys (which I doubt / shrugs)

2) I have another girl who works very regularly in the zona, who was madly obsessed about me (ok fine, so was I to her) , but she is so full of crazies that she gets jealous when I even so much as hang out with other girls in the club, I have never directly paid her for sex, but have bought things for her (nothing expensive, and if you ask me, I am actually still ahead.). This is a decent prostitute, but a horrible potential gf.

3) then there is this ultra flaky girl, whom sex with is always so-so, but everything else, is a complete GFE (ok maybe not that much) , but the shit that she says, really makes me think that she cares about me (which, big head is telling me that it is all just words, and these girls should know by now what is it that mongers love to hear). This is a decent prostitute, and a potentially interesting gf.

4) and then a SW, whom I never have to haggle with, provides increasingly better service each time I am with her, but even when I don't take her upstairs, she always greets me with a big smile and ask me in a friendly manner how my day has been and whats up. This is a fucking great prostitute, and will never be a gf.

5) and on and on.

Anyway, my point is, given long enough time, and close enough distance, you will probably experience many more different personalities to come, and for your sake, I really hope you go through this painful (but necessary experience) in the quickest and least damaging way (both financially and emotionally) because it seems like you already reached your own conclusion, but whether you truly believe what you say, is another thing.

Incidentally, zwane does stand out in the crowd (at least to me) , never paid for her services but bought her a drink before, I would say, given how she talks to me about my regulars, I would say she is not a 'bad' person per se. Ie, I don't think she is maliciously scheming anything, but you will most likely find that whatever way she intends to guide this relationship, may not be something you will be able to cope with.

Stay healthy, stay sane.

[QUOTE=SeanBig; 1288933].

7) Yeah I know everything you guys say is right. They have a different psychology of what is a "date"

What is a "relationship"

I know that unless I give everything up and get her out of Mexico, she will never be mine, and I know that as long as she is in Mexico she will keep on spinning her tricks and look for the next "Asian sugar daddy"

I know that a "freebie" is actually more costly than paying outright for sex[/QUOTE]

In the past I have mongered in Nogales, Los Algodones and Mexicali and enjoyed it. I have became pretty knowledgeable in those areas. I have never been though to probably the most famous Mexican place of all for mongering, Tijuana. This is because I live in Phoenix, Arizona and Tijuana is a bit further of drive than those other cities I mentioned (from what I understand another 3 hours beyond Mexicali). I have also of course heard a lot about the drug cartel violence situation there and it has made me reluctant to go there in the past and of course we have all heard the stories of how Tijuana has the most crooked, corrupt police force anywhere on the border. I still have heard a lot of good things though about Tijuana especially Adelita's and Hong Kong so I am seriously thinking about trying it once. On the last week of July I am going to have some time off of work so I am thinking about making a trip to Tijuana.

My first question to all of you Tijuana pros is if anyone is familiar with the San Diego public transportation system? I am debating if I should drive or if I should fly if I find some good deal on airfare from Phoenix to San Diego. Does San Diego have good, reliable public transportation to get one from the San Diego airport to the Tijuana border? Do they have regulary scheduled bus / subway / light rail routes that can get you there and back? I have never even been to San Diego let alone Tijuana so this is completely new to me.

Second question is about hotel / motels. Does anyone know of some cheap but respectable hotels near Adelita's that you can rent for the night? I know that Adelita's has a hotel attached to it but I am looking for a place that rents for the night, not by the hour. I am looking to spend the night near Adelita's (unless you people who know the place well would say that that is not advisable). Is it safe for a gringo that speaks no Spanish to spend the night in that area of Tijuana? I am not looking for a 5 star motel. I would be quite happy with something the equivalent of a motel 6 in the USA I am used to being able to go to a respectable motel in Mexicali for 250 pesos (approx 20 dollars) a night. Will I find that in Tijuana or is that a pipe dream? In Tijuana is it better for a person to spend the night north of the border?

The next question is about safety. I know of course we have all heard the stories on the news about drug cartel violence and crooked police in Tijuana. I have also read though that this occurs only in certain areas of Tijuana and that some areas are just as safe if not safer than any major city in the USA Is the area of Adelita's and Hong Kong a safe area? As long as I am not blatantly stupid like walking around in a drunken stupor, causing fights or taking pictures of ladies am I safe from crooked cops in that area? I realize that being safe if relative. Incidents occur here in Phoenix and other major USA cities too but is it relatively safe? Also, I would like to walk through the zona norte if it is advisable. I do not want to pick up any of those ladies as I do not like to do street girls be it in Nogales, Los Algodones, Mexicali or for that matter here in Phoenix. They are just not my thing. Too unpredictable. Sometimes you get a gem and sometimes you get mugged. I do however know that the zona norte is probably the most famous and largest area in the world for street workers and I would personally just like to see it. I would like maybe just to walk through it never conversing with any of the ladies. Is it safe just to walk through the zona norte?

Anyone's experience and advice would be greatly appreciated. If you have other advice on issues that I did not mention that you think a Tijuana first timer should know I woud appreciate hearing that too. If you ever need to go to Nogales (hopefully not, that place is a shit hole. LOL) , Los Algodones or Mexicali contact me and I can tell you whatever you would like to know. Also, if you need advice on the local Phoenix, Arizona scene let me know and I can help you with that. Thanks for your help in advance!

Jon

Thanks Guitar,

She actually seems like a decent human being but from her stories with clients she is all business.

Ie. If you ain't going upstairs stop wasting my time.

It's weird. Now when I talk to her on the phone. I think of everything the posters are saying.

It's just when she reminisces of when we first met in the club it sounds oddly romantic and really really fcuked up.

SD does have public transportation. Getting around is not to much of a hassle if you are staying near the trolley lines in down town or Mission Valley. Personally I think driving is the best option if time is not a big factor. I would not drive a car into Tijuana. Tijuana is fairly safe during the day time. Personally I avoid Tijuana at night there this to many shadows for the bandit's to hide. There is cops all around and they will not bother you so long as you obey the laws and mind your manners. I always look around to see who is behind me

[QUOTE=Magic Rancher; 1288950]Ahhh Roxette. I gave her a CD of tunes with the Police song, Roxanne, so then she used to play that alot for one of her stage songs. Anyway, the last time I saw her was in Ensenada where she worked at Paris de Noche. Attached is a photo of her and friends from June 2006. And yes, I do remember Excalibar, the place close to Guau Guau and next to Mercado de Pasteles. This girl, Ambar, liked to bring me there for after hour recreation. I don't party much in Mexicali anymore because that's where my novia lives.

But let me know next time you plan to head down to Chicago Club. I'd be happy to buy you a drink.[/QUOTE]I will be at Chicago Club at about 10:00 or 10:30 tonight. I will be the old fart. My name is Mike

[QUOTE=Joe Arturo;1289046]I will be at Chicago Club at about 10:00 or 10:30 tonight. I will be the old fart. My name is Mike[/QUOTE]Now wait a god damn minute! I thought I was the only old fart in the Zona!

Take a bus and the trolley to, and from SAN airport to the border. There IS a Motel 6 at the border, if you want to stay stateside. There are hotels in Tijuana that are safe, decent, and cheap. Other mongers can help you with that. As far as safety, you hit it right on the nose. Be smart, and you will have no problem. Don't get drunk, don't talk to strangers, and no drugs. Stay in the zona, until you get comfortable and learn a little Spanish.

The hotel Cascades, the one that is used by the girls in Hong Club club, rents by the day too. You can check out there web site. (Do Google search for Hotel Cascades Tijuana.) If you are staying there get a high floor, since the music is pretty loud. A lot of others prefer the Hotel Ticuan, it's close to the zone and pretty nice. (Same google search for it.)

[QUOTE=Tempe Jon; 1289037]In the past I have mongered in Nogales, Los Algodones and Mexicali and enjoyed it. I have became pretty knowledgeable in those areas. I have never been though to probably the most famous Mexican place of all for mongering, Tijuana. This is because I live in Phoenix, Arizona and Tijuana is a bit further of drive than those other cities I mentioned (from what I understand another 3 hours beyond Mexicali). I have also of course heard a lot about the drug cartel violence situation there and it has made me reluctant to go there in the past and of course we have all heard the stories of how Tijuana has the most crooked, corrupt police force anywhere on the border. I still have heard a lot of good things though about Tijuana especially Adelita's and Hong Kong so I am seriously thinking about trying it once. On the last week of July I am going to have some time off of work so I am thinking about making a trip to Tijuana.

My first question to all of you Tijuana pros is if anyone is familiar with the San Diego public transportation system? I am debating if I should drive or if I should fly if I find some good deal on airfare from Phoenix to San Diego. Does San Diego have good, reliable public transportation to get one from the San Diego airport to the Tijuana border? Do they have regulary scheduled bus / subway / light rail routes that can get you there and back? I have never even been to San Diego let alone Tijuana so this is completely new to me.

Second question is about hotel / motels. Does anyone know of some cheap but respectable hotels near Adelita's that you can rent for the night? I know that Adelita's has a hotel attached to it but I am looking for a place that rents for the night, not by the hour. I am looking to spend the night near Adelita's (unless you people who know the place well would say that that is not advisable). Is it safe for a gringo that speaks no Spanish to spend the night in that area of Tijuana? I am not looking for a 5 star motel. I would be quite happy with something the equivalent of a motel 6 in the USA I am used to being able to go to a respectable motel in Mexicali for 250 pesos (approx 20 dollars) a night. Will I find that in Tijuana or is that a pipe dream? In Tijuana is it better for a person to spend the night north of the border?

The next question is about safety. I know of course we have all heard the stories on the news about drug cartel violence and crooked police in Tijuana. I have also read though that this occurs only in certain areas of Tijuana and that some areas are just as safe if not safer than any major city in the USA Is the area of Adelita's and Hong Kong a safe area? As long as I am not blatantly stupid like walking around in a drunken stupor, causing fights or taking pictures of ladies am I safe from crooked cops in that area? I realize that being safe if relative. Incidents occur here in Phoenix and other major USA cities too but is it relatively safe? Also, I would like to walk through the zona norte if it is advisable. I do not want to pick up any of those ladies as I do not like to do street girls be it in Nogales, Los Algodones, Mexicali or for that matter here in Phoenix. They are just not my thing. Too unpredictable. Sometimes you get a gem and sometimes you get mugged. I do however know that the zona norte is probably the most famous and largest area in the world for street workers and I would personally just like to see it. I would like maybe just to walk through it never conversing with any of the ladies. Is it safe just to walk through the zona norte?

Anyone's experience and advice would be greatly appreciated. If you have other advice on issues that I did not mention that you think a Tijuana first timer should know I woud appreciate hearing that too. If you ever need to go to Nogales (hopefully not, that place is a shit hole. LOL) , Los Algodones or Mexicali contact me and I can tell you whatever you would like to know. Also, if you need advice on the local Phoenix, Arizona scene let me know and I can help you with that. Thanks for your help in advance!

Jon[/QUOTE]Hi Jon. If you like Mexicali like I do. You are going to love Tijuana. It is a whole different game here. My advice to you is to read the postings on this forum. Answers to all your questions are contained here. PM me with the dates and times you will be here (I am in Tijuana right now) and maybe we can finally hook up. I can probably be your tour guide as I wanted to in Mexicali. It seems that we never could hook up in Mexicali. Good luck and safe hunting!

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1289062]Now wait a god damn minute! I thought I was the only old fart in the Zona![/QUOTE]I should have said to look for the oldest fart.

[QUOTE=Magic Rancher; 1288950]Ahhh Roxette. I gave her a CD of tunes with the Police song, Roxanne, so then she used to play that alot for one of her stage songs. Anyway, the last time I saw her was in Ensenada where she worked at Paris de Noche. Attached is a photo of her and friends from June 2006. And yes, I do remember Excalibar, the place close to Guau Guau and next to Mercado de Pasteles. This girl, Ambar, liked to bring me there for after hour recreation. I don't party much in Mexicali anymore because that's where my novia lives.

But let me know next time you plan to head down to Chicago Club. I'd be happy to buy you a drink.[/QUOTE]The gal on the right in the picture is Laura. She works at Chicago Club from 2:00 PM to 10:00 PM just about every day. She has aged a lot since the picture. I asked her today about Roxette and she said that Roxette got married and moved back to her home town.

Who changed the name of this board (now Hotels) and of the Hong Kong board (now Discounts)?

[QUOTE=Joe Arturo;1289473]Who changed the name of this board (now Hotels) and of the Hong Kong board (now Discounts)?[/QUOTE]Weird looking change.