Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=TexasPistol;2879364]However the fact is every relationship is transactional if we are going to be honest. Any woman I have ever been with, would she have been with me if I didn't look a certain way, earn a certain amount, have a certain level of social status, etc? And would I have have been with her if not for her youth, beauty, the impression that she made on me and my friends? Maybe I am cynic however most relationships are very shallow as you realize once it ends. Every relationship is what it is.[/QUOTE]And what is the problem? That is life. Relationship is almost by definition a transaction, a flow of 'give and take' and 'transactional relationship' is like repeating the same thing twice. Doesn't mean there can't be fun, attachment and emotions / feelings involved. And it can be symbiotic, it can be parasitic, and many other variations.

Many men seem to have a lot of romantic and abstract ideas about relationships (more than women in fact), 'forever together', hundreds of 'she should' s, get infatuated and think they are in love after a week, or many looking for a mother substitute.

[QUOTE=MoonShot;2879217]If she behaves like she likes you, it doesn't mean she actually likes you. It could mean that she is putting on an act so that she could earn some money again if you see her again. Now I would say It actually doesn't matter if you are happy with her performance and she is happy to earn money with you. I had a friend when I was in Mexico that was seeing this girl at the agency and he thought she was falling in love with him and enjoying the time with him. I had introduced him to the agency. Subsequently the agency told me that they prefer that he take his business elsewhere and that the girl despised being with him because she felt he was rude and rough with her. But when she was with him, she acted as if she liked him and cumming with him during sex. Girls can easily for you because guys want to believe it.[/QUOTE]I wasn't talking just about behavior during sex or a paid session. If a chica gives me great sex but then ignores me outside of that or doesn't want to hang out then it's obvious. I mean it's not a rocket science, but seems like he put no effort in finding out. If the guy paid the agency to fuck her, she came and gave him great time and he deducted she must be really into him just based on that then it's on him.

Lots of 'she said' 'they said 'in the story, but anyway, by telling her boss she doesn't want to see him she didn't behave in a way that says she likes him then.

He could've also taken a bold step and just ask as simple question. Hey, do you want to spend some time after work together or do you prefer we see each other just through agency? Done. But he was probably afraid because the answer would've put his constructed fantasy at the instant risk of disappearing.

Then if she'd say yes, test her actual behavior outside of her work setting and in different circumstances to validate whether it matches the words and verify mutual compatibility. And stop paying per hour (I'm not saying not pay for shit, it's Latin America). Yes it requires some thought, time and effort but building / negotiating a relationship does.

(Why would anyone even try put themselves through the ordeal of trying to build something with a professional WG is another story).

Only way the to know for certain how she 'really' feels would be to be her (then you'd see half of the time she doesn't even know herself), which is obviously not going to happen. Next best thing is to watch and test the actual behavior over extended period of time (but honestly it doesn't take that much to figure it out).

If she 'puts on an act' consistently over extended period of time and different circumstances, when tired, when drunk, when emotional, then it's no act but a reality.

[QUOTE=JohnnieCash;2879443]And what is the problem? That is life. Relationship is almost by definition a transaction, a flow of 'give and take' and 'transactional relationship' is like repeating the same thing twice. Doesn't mean there can't be fun, attachment and emotions / feelings involved. And it can be symbiotic, it can be parasitic, and many other variations.[/QUOTE]I definitely agree. I think in a sex work it's just more explicit and clear cut what each side wants. That can be a good thing and each side can still like and respect the other. My relationship with the server at the local restaurant is completely clear cut, limited to a certain time and place and transactional and we can still like and respect each other.

In my life experience the parent / child relationship goes a bit beyond that. There can be a very strong bond without it being based on too many conditions or a quid pro quo. It's about sharing genetics and sharing so many major life experiences and that creates a strong emotional bond.

[QUOTE=AdamWl;2878373]On a related note, I had a chat over a pony malta with centro SW recently that quoted me "50 mil y todo que quieres", said she works Poblado in the evenings, had a guy pay her 200 usd for un rato recently, normally she charges 300 mil there, bragged how she had 4 gringo boyfriends sending her money (where is all that cash gone now I wondered), one renting apartment for her, another older one offering to have baby with her but was infertile so wanted to buy a sperm first (biazzare), then she showed me her FB profile with photos that look 5 x better than her in a real life, to the point I was wondering if it's even her (make up and filters are no joke) and also said she wants to go to Spain to work at some point and then offered to share some tussi with me (no thanks).[/QUOTE]I have a bridge to sell you if you think she was telling you the truth. I know colombiana putas aren't the brightest tool in the shed, but no one who is already pulling that kind of bread elsewhere would go hooking for 13 usd "todo que quieres". I'm sure that's what she told you, but something ain't adding up. What's more likely is she's hard up for money without a steady source of income and she's unable / unwilling to find gainful employment so she sells her body in the streets for local market value, possibly to support a baby daddy and / or drug addiction.

[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2878215]8/10 chicas you see walking around Llera go to centro in the day (the street llera girls.)[/QUOTE]I'm going to have to press 'X' to doubt dawg. Unless things have changed drastically in the past 6 months, I've been to the plaza enough times to extrapolate that between all the strung-out, overweight, underweight, too old, too young, and unwashed prepago masses that (granted while lleras isn't light years better) there is still a significant quality difference in term of general looks and hygiene between the two areas. Is it worth the price difference? Debateable. But I would say maybe only 2 or 3 /10 of the uglier chicas you see walking around lleras go to centro in the day. The prettier ones feel just as leery at the prospect of having to venture and be seen in centro as any person not blinded by drugs or lust. Most sane people, both foreign and domestic, just try to finish whatever business they needed to get done in centro as quickly as possible without getting mugged or worse. The only people who go to botero to hangout are johns and hookers (and oblivious tourists), everyone else there is either trying to sell or take something from the people passing through.

[QUOTE=TexasPistol;2879613]I definitely agree. I think in a sex work it's just more explicit and clear cut what each side wants. That can be a good thing and each side can still like and respect the other. My relationship with the server at the local restaurant is completely clear cut, limited to a certain time and place and transactional and we can still like and respect each other.[/QUOTE]Mfs that are used to getting pussy and having normal girlfriends are not worried about whether a hooker really likes them. Some people need to feel needed and if a hooker gives good service to a customer then they wonder if she could be the one. It is only because she opened her legs. Nobody is wondering whether the server at the restaurant is the one. She gave good service too, but did not open her legs. Get some pussy other than that you have to pay for and this will no longer be a concern, because then you know whether someone really likes you or not.

[QUOTE=TexasPistol;2879613]In my life experience the parent / child relationship goes a bit beyond that. There can be a very strong bond without it being based on too many conditions or a quid pro quo. It's about sharing genetics and sharing so many major life experiences and that creates a strong emotional bond.[/QUOTE]Bullshit. You are only bonded because you see them everyday. It has nothing to do with genetics. I have a shitload of cousins that have the same genetics as me, but I am closer to the ones that I was around more often. They were all at my birthday parties and me at theirs, but only sharing those major life experiences had nothing to do with nothing. No kid or parent feels any strong bond when the kid did not grow up around the parent.

Humans are weird creatures. Millions of people crying when Michael Jackson and John Lennon died even though they did not know them from a can of paint. But they heard their music and saw them dance on TV all the time so somehow they "felt" an emotional bond. Nobody cried when Alvin Ailey died because they did not see him dancing on TV everyday.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2879687]Mfs that are used to getting pussy and having normal girlfriends are not worried about whether a hooker really likes them. Some people need to feel needed and if a hooker gives good service to a customer then they wonder if she could be the one. It is only because she opened her legs. Nobody is wondering whether the server at the restaurant is the one. She gave good service too, but did not open her legs. Get some pussy other than that you have to pay for and this will no longer be a concern, because then you know whether someone really likes you or not.....[/QUOTE]I have been seeing this girl too frequently that someone is worrying about me. I asked her this week if she knew my name. She said "No", haha. The sex was mechanical so it was not as great as it could be. I know her well enough by now, so I know she is just doing her job. The last time we met is the same as the first time we met. I would say she does her job well. It is not because she provides great sex but she did it to her own standard on what her job is, like always on time, never ask for things, and doesn't rush.

I repeat with her because the happiness and euphoria after sex can last for hours until the next day. The reason is because I am very into her, or you can say I am in love (but she is not in love with me). LOL. She is slender with great personal style. She can dress like a hooker, but I feel she is more like a model then a hooker. That is part of the attraction.

I see another girl who is probably the hottest in my book. This one feels like a girlfriend and she is very good in bed. She would send me list of pictures and have me pick a style that she would come with. She does not know how things work yet. But even that, I am already paying her a large premium over the others. I messaged the "don't know my name girl" after sex to set up a date, and I had erection after receiving a reply from the "don't know my name girl". I learned that I could go again much faster under the right condition. LOL. The problem with this girl is she is too comfortable in my place so she exhibits some boyish behaviors and those kind of stuck in my mind to make her less attractive. The other day I found a piece of toilet paper with shit in the trash can is one example. LOL. So despite being hottest, and provides good service but I don't get the same euphoria feeling I have with "don't know my name girl".

She (don't know how things work girl) flacked a few times. She would tell me she was preparing then after 1 hour she would tell me she wanted to be with her family doing things, or be late because she was watching movie and wanted to come after she was 2 hours late when movie ended. I put up with it because she is hot in my book and is rare. I don't contact her after she flacked, and she will eventually contact me and be ready and on time. Waiting does not bother me that much because I always have something to do. I have always been able to get another late at night when girls flacked.

Good day all.

Today is was my first day in Medellin. I'm a solo traveler, and fairly experienced when in comes to new cities and countries. Before arriving in Medellin I consumed this forum and YouTube, trying to make sure I didn't go to wild.

I'll start by giving other first timers tips that worked for me. Firstly, spend the first day / night getting the lay of the land. Absorb the atmosphere of the city, as it's quite intoxicating. Secondly, find yourself a good driver, now just Uber. They will look out for you.

As for what I learned about the girls. Yes, Park Lleras is more 'dangerous' compared to other locals. It's well know in the community. Still worth checking out, it's very cool. I don't have any prices ect.

After that, I went to LA Isla Club, definelty worth the visit. Yes, it's a bit more expensive. I bough a half bottle, and did the math, I spent less on that then I would for drinks on myself. Also, it's a great ice breaker, and you won't be buying any girly drinks. For prices, girls wanted 250-300 $ USD for an all night back at your casa, which I found to be to expensive.

I then checked out the after hours at Luna Lunera, a little pricey to get in the door but there girls only wants $100 for a return to your casa for the night.

As for that, I'll head to bed now, cheers.

[QUOTE=JhuaP;2879938]for an all night back at your casa[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JhuaP;2879938] for a return to your casa for the night[/QUOTE]Solo first timers would be best advised to session onsite instead of bringing girls back home. Or to love hotel if you must. Besides reducing the serious risks it will allow you to test the service first before committing time and money (many duds and false advertising in there).

[QUOTE=JhuaP;2879938]Park Lleras is more 'dangerous' compared to other locals. It's well know in the community. I don't have any prices ect.[/QUOTE]It's about 200-300 mil COP. Again, not advised to bring them home.

Hopefully you've done hour homework about all the drugging / stabbing / kidnapping / robbery and mitigating the risks.

Good luck.

Medellin has been destroyed by gringos.

Caretegena could be worse.

They even play homeboy music in the clubs now.

I'm looking for hotel recommendations in Medellin. I am looking at hotels that are close to strip clubs / massage parlors / escort hotspots. I don't have much time and I'd look to avoid travel as much as possible. If there are hotels that anyone can recommend (or recommend to avoid) that would put me in the a good spot to walk out the door and into opportunities I would really appreciate it. Trying to maximize my time if that makes sense.

[QUOTE=Stl24;2880075]I'm looking for hotel recommendations in Medellin. I am looking at hotels that are close to strip clubs / massage parlors / escort hotspots. I don't have much time and I'd look to avoid travel as much as possible. If there are hotels that anyone can recommend (or recommend to avoid) that would put me in the a good spot to walk out the door and into opportunities I would really appreciate it. Trying to maximize my time if that makes sense.[/QUOTE]If you're trying to maximize your time in strip clubs, Casa's and Centro SW's and stay within a tight budget the main hotel stayed at is the Nutibara. [URL]https://www.guestreservations.com/hotel-nutibara-medellin/booking?[/URL] Depending on your taste and budget of course. If you don't care how much you spend and your loaded I guess you could stay in Poblado, but your limited to Parque lleras, to the ridiculously priced Gustos, and the over priced el Centro ho's. And if you like the high end strip clubs you most likely will have to take a cab to get to them no matter where you stay. I usually take a cab or the train to Poblado when I stay in the nutibara hotel and get normal food in the malls when I visiting on short stays. To me that’s the best option when you want maximize time for what you or basically anybody comes for.

[QUOTE=CeeJay1;2880120]If you're trying to maximize your time in strip clubs, Casa's and Centro SW's and stay within a tight budget the main hotel stayed at is the Nutibara. [URL]https://www.guestreservations.com/hotel-nutibara-medellin/booking?[/URL] Depending on your taste and budget of course. If you don't care how much you spend and your loaded I guess you could stay in Poblado, but your limited to Parque lleras, to the ridiculously priced Gustos, and the over priced el Centro ho's. And if you like the high end strip clubs you most likely will have to take a cab to get to them no matter where you stay. I usually take a cab or the train to Poblado when I stay in the nutibara hotel and get normal food in the malls when I visiting on short stays. To me thats the best option when you want maximize time for what you or basically anybody comes for.[/QUOTE]A great choice if you want to partake of the delights in Centro. A bonus is it is girl friendly up to 6 PM.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2879729]The other day I found a piece of toilet paper with shit in the trash can is one example. LOL. So despite being hottest, and provides good service but I don't get the same euphoria feeling I have with "don't know my name girl".[/QUOTE]Actually in Latin America, you are supposed to put your used toilet paper in the trash can because they use smaller diameter pvc pipes for the drains and it can't handle flushing the toilet paper down the pipes without getting clogged up alot easier than with the larger pipes used in the US.

This is why you often see small trash cans next to toilets anywhere in Latin America and you may see signs telling you not to throw toilet paper in the toilet "no arrojar papel en el inodoro / sanitario. ".

About a Month ago or so two buds and I went to Eros Spa in Laureles and we saw yellow tapes at the door with a policia notice that the facility was closed. Then about two-three weeks ago pretty much right away I noticed there's a new Eros Spa in Belen, walking distance to my apt and I finally visited today. I referrd someone there already and he did enjoy it.

The new location is not 24 hrs, they open at 12 p and close at 4 am. Full schedule and address is updated on Google Map: Avenida 80 # 30 a-20 (right on intersection on CL 30 a and av 80).

Black double glass door, doorbell on small door on right and someone will open. Today around 1 P about 6 chicas, normally there are more but I expected most to be out due to the holidays. Average 5-7, I picked Sofia, tats, 6. 5/7, she smiled at me at the lineup so I knew she'd be cool. 70 K, 1 nut. Room was very clean, cleaner and nicer than new life LOL. Attitude was sweet, she askd if should use condom for BJ I said yes, I assumed I could've paid for upgrade, missionary and OMG she was tight, one of the best and sweetest pussy in a casa so far. Sweet moans, then doggy and I couldn't last more than 5 minutes but pounded her nice little body hard while she grabbed and liked it. Tippd 10 k and she was happy and kissed me twice before I left.

Pleasant new little spot, the chicas are all girl next door types and all seemed cool, FYI.

[QUOTE=CeeJay1;2880120]Depending on your taste and budget of course. If you don't care how much you spend and your loaded I guess you could stay in Poblado, but your limited to Parque lleras, to the ridiculously priced Gustos, and the over priced el Centro ho's. [/QUOTE]El Centro hoes charge 40 mil COP ($10 usd) they're not overpriced.

I totally agree with you. I went twice this year in Medellin. And I was in Hotel Nutiraba. The hotel is cheap which is good in El Centro but it's a very old hotel. But rooms are big and OK. We sleep good but it's not a great hotel. Most a 2* hotel. The breakfast isn't great, it's not a great buffet but for the price of the hotel it's ok!

You can bring girls without any problem during the day till 6 pm. After you have to stay with the same girl! You can't bring more than 1 girl after 6 pm. The staff in the hotel is nice and the guy for the security is very nice too. I remember last time during the brekfast, I saw 2 american men with a nice sexy colombian lady who was 18. She was a pro, she smiled to me when I was on my table during the breakfast but I couldn't speak with her because of her 2 american customers. I was totally obsessed by her and I did 2 pictures very quicky when she was with the american and first time of my life I went after my breakfast meet the security boy at the entrance of the hotel and I was totally direct with him. I told him that I know she s a pro. Of course he knew that too. And I asked him if he can help me to give me the contact of this girl! At the beginning he told me NO, he can't give me the informations of the customers who stay there in hte hotel but then I told him I'm ready to give him a big tip. Then he told me he could do nothing. Then I told him if he changed mind he can take my phone number and give it to her when he ll see her. Then I left the hotel for few hours and when I come back at the beginning of the afternoon in the hotel he came to me, and he gave me her whasapp! I was very happy. He asked me to not say to the girl that he gave me her whasapp. Then to say thans to him, I gave him 30 000 pesos and he was very happy.

Then I sent her message on whasapp, I explained her I wanted to spend nice time with her. In 2 minutes she answered me and told me that she was back in her home and she could meet me in my hotel but she was scare to meet the 2 american guys because she has to go with them to San Andres the next day. But I told her to call me when she arrives my hotel. She was really scared so she told me she can only stay with me short time in my room and then she must go see the 2 american men in their room. She asked me 300 mil pesos and it was great time! She went to my room, and she was very happy to meet me, she felt very good with me and stayed with me in my room for more than 3 hours. At the beginning she asked me if I ve some condoms but I say NO that I forgot to buy them. Then she asked me 100 mil pesos more to fuck her bareback and of course she was so sexy that I said YES! We fuck during more than 2 hours, it was great time and she told me she liked me. I wanted she sleeps with me all night but she told me she couldn't because the 2 american men were waiting for her and pay her 1 million pesos everyday to stay with her!

It was great time, and the next day early in the morning I saw her again at the breakfast with the 2 american men and she totally ignore me! LOL.

Then during the day near the hotel in plaza botero, I found nice sexy ladies during the day who came my room during the day for 50 000/100 000 pesos. And in the night I paid more with girls from Facebook I bring to my hotel Nutibara.

Girs don't care about the hotel, the just want the money! So it's not important to pay a big hotel in El Poblado. Girls just want your money thjat's all!

Just reat them good, be respectful with them and they will follow you everywhere you want.

[QUOTE=CeeJay1;2880120]If you're trying to maximize your time in strip clubs, Casa's and Centro SW's and stay within a tight budget the main hotel stayed at is the Nutibara. [URL]https://www.guestreservations.com/hotel-nutibara-medellin/booking?[/URL] Depending on your taste and budget of course. If you don't care how much you spend and your loaded I guess you could stay in Poblado, but your limited to Parque lleras, to the ridiculously priced Gustos, and the over priced el Centro ho's. And if you like the high end strip clubs you most likely will have to take a cab to get to them no matter where you stay. I usually take a cab or the train to Poblado when I stay in the nutibara hotel and get normal food in the malls when I visiting on short stays. To me thats the best option when you want maximize time for what you or basically anybody comes for.[/QUOTE]