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[QUOTE=Knowledge;2882757]What is the purpose of reposting police blotter type crime reports? I think we are past the point where even people with no interest in Colombia are aware of the increased media coverage. Are you going to share some safety recommendations, areas to avoid, something beyond 'these dudes got robbed?[/QUOTE]The purpose is to stay informed and as a reminder. Make your own conclusions, anyone further interested can just ask the guy where did he get robbed and beaten.
Good luck! Looking forward to hearing how it went and how it compares to pre and during the barricades.
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2882611]The barriers were what I considered "mongering interference. " They didn't make the area any safer, just pushed all the criminal element outside of the perimeter of the barricades, along with the majority of the working girls (the ones that aren't fucking 40 years old atleast) as well. Which meant that instead of having a big open plaza to look for chicas, you were crammed up in between the church and hotel Botero Real in that pedestrian walkway along with the chicas and the ladrones all crammed in there with hardly any space to walk. Making it easier for the ladrones to do a snatch and run.
As someone who has been mongering in the plaza for several years before the barricades and during the 11 months with the barricades, I can assure you that it was much better before the barricades.
I remember chicas used to line the area from the tostao to the church on both sides by the entrance to the CC Veracruz and on the side by Premier Plaza (or whatever the FK they call it now). There also used to be alot of chicas around the horse statue and several other statues too and it was much easier doing laps around the church and the bar street and come back down again to see who might have been missed on the first go around.
And all the stupid tourists with their families weren't there to get in the way. And if you wanted a single cigarette you didn't have to walk outside the barriers to buy one from a vendor.
I'll be heading down there tomorrow to check it out, I look forward to Botero Plaza getting back to normal. God knows it's about time.
-Gabacho.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ElSexoChino7;2882630]Watch this guy's story that happened recently in Cali, Colombia. Same scenario can happen in Medelland. He's very lucky to be alive. Let this be a learning lesson to everyone.
[URL]https://youtu.be/Uz25FyOKqjE?si=iE30bRmwHvAerfwC[/URL][/QUOTE]New story every week now and most of these incidents aren't even reported.
He did break a few "rules" - but these things sort of snowball. A female friend is coming over to your pool. That's probably OK. She decides to bring a friend. Risks go up but what do you tell her? The guy was an experienced traveler who spoke some Spanish, but he let his guard down a bit and let some things slide.
I struggle with the fact that it's only been 11 months since the barrier was installed because it really seemed like much longer - - good riddance!
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2882745]I got some pictures earlier this morning of plaza Botero without the barricades. This is the first time since early February of 2023 that the area has looked like this. I knew in my heart and soul that the barricades would not last forever.
Gabacho.[/QUOTE]
The portero, if there was one, could have been in on it. If there is an upside to the growing flood of stories like this it would be that there will be fewer unsuspecting victims. I might be trying too hard to apply logic to the situation.
[QUOTE=Putero1;2882761]This guy broke at least two universal rules of Colombia: 1. He let unknown girls up into his Airbnb without having the Portero hold their cedula. 2. he allowed girls to bring unknown friends with them. The story is weird AF because all of a sudden there are dudes with guns in their apartment, how did they get by the Portero? He just all of a sudden says there is a guy with a gun at his head in his Airbnb, while the girls were in the bathroom. WTF.
Anyone that rents a house *without a portero in Cali Colombia to play with putas is a moron. Colombians would never do what these guys did. Other than that, take a look at the pictures of the girls this guy had over without knowing them, knowing anything about them other than they are putas: both ugly and serious barrio vibes.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Putero1;2882761]This guy broke at least two universal rules of Colombia: 1. He let unknown girls up into his Airbnb without having the Portero hold their cedula. 2. he allowed girls to bring unknown friends with them. The story is weird AF because all of a sudden there are dudes with guns in their apartment, how did they get by the Portero? He just all of a sudden says there is a guy with a gun at his head in his Airbnb, while the girls were in the bathroom. WTF.[/QUOTE]If you had listened to his story and read the comments, you would know that there was no portero. It was a villa, not an apartment or condominium building. His friend went with the two ladies to let them out and was confronted with guys with guns. He did make mistakes by allowing the first two women to invite other people. Hindsight is 20/20. If he had it to do over, he probably would not let his friend go to the gate after one of the ladies told his friend that the first two women were planning to rob them. He should have stayed put and called his friend on the outside, or the police, for help in getting the women out of his villa. I think his encounter is a story to learn from.
Take a look at the thumbnail of this vid and I'm sure she could've gotten many of us. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rxs1B0cZH4[/URL].
Dude clearly broke some of rules or dumb shit not to do.
- She couldn't wait for his Uber and rushed him in her taxi. DUMB SHIT.
- She talked him into visiting her apt LMAO. Who the fuck does that? Why tf would any gringo go to a chica's apt unless you know her really well? - DUMB SHIT.
One of my centro gal told me few days ago that 3 gringos got killed via scopalomine like 2-3 weeks ago from centro rats and didn't even make the news. She said some girls don't even put it in your drinks, they would put the powder on their breast, neck, stomach area, and come close to you to hug you and baam you're scoped. Or while you're sitting especially. So watch out for that shit. In about 3 weeks once my lease is up I'm heading to Bog for the rest of my 6 mo. Then won't be back in this BS. I can get hawkers anywhere heck prob North Korea will be safer at this point.
Be safe out there.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2882881]If you had listened to his story and read the comments, you would know that there was no portero. It was a villa, not an apartment or condominium building. His friend went with the two ladies to let them out and was confronted with guys with guns. He did make mistakes by allowing the first two women to invite other people. Hindsight is 20/20. If he had it to do over, he probably would not let his friend go to the gate after one of the ladies told his friend that the first two women were planning to rob them. He should have stayed put and called his friend on the outside, or the police, for help in getting the women out of his villa. I think his encounter is a story to learn from.[/QUOTE]Agree, I think he did not act with the urgency needed. Hearing "hey, you're going to be robbed" while in Colombia would light a fire under my ass.
The other big lesson I take away from it, largely because I'm guilty of it, is getting too comfortable. I have several "friends" in Colombia. Male and female. I've known all of them for years. But truth be told, I've only been to the house of a few. Met their families. The others? This makes me think twice about trusting them. Sad, but that's reality.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2882542]
The ultimate test for me and women is if I had to hide my wallet or put it into a safe versus trusting the woman and leaving it out in the open. You would think leaving your wallet out is a sure sign you are going to get burned, but I only misjudged one woman in Colombia on this. What I found was this huge gap in trust. Some Colombian women were so trusting of me they fucked me without asking for a penny and there were others who would rob me blind in a second. Colombia was so binary.
If the police do not care if people get mugged, then Medellin, Colombia is in that early Rio 2000's period IMO. What is sad is that Venezuela used to be the country with property rights and prosperity and Colombia was the black sheep of the family. The roles reversed, and Colombia has come a long way, but IMO I just wonder if they are slipping back to their old ways. It sure seems like it. IMO Colombia really is at a crossroads right now.[/QUOTE]Same, I left my burner phone on the counter while I got my date a snack in the other room and never had an issue. (about 7 woman). Like you, 1 woman I forgot to pay and she told me when she was in her indriver that she had to go to her university and to "pay later". Another (if you read my reports from last April) I never paid again for sex after meeting her parents. Though, I really enjoyed her company, and would much rather lay in bed and laugh at her english and her laugh at my spanish, but we always ended up fucking, never asked me for money since the 1st time, think she considered me her BF at that point. We still talk today. My point, I 100% agree with you that there is a HUGE trust gap in Colombia, or at least Medellin and that Colombia is indeed at a crossroad, well said brotha!
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2882611]The barriers were what I considered "mongering interference. " They didn't make the area any safer, just pushed all the criminal element outside of the perimeter of the barricades, along with the majority of the working girls (the ones that aren't fucking 40 years old atleast) as well. Which meant that instead of having a big open plaza to look for chicas, you were crammed up in between the church and hotel Botero Real in that pedestrian walkway along with the chicas and the ladrones all crammed in there with hardly any space to walk. Making it easier for the ladrones to do a snatch and run.
As someone who has been mongering in the plaza for several years before the barricades and during the 11 months with the barricades, I can assure you that it was much better before the barricades.
I remember chicas used to line the area from the tostao to the church on both sides by the entrance to the CC Veracruz and on the side by Premier Plaza (or whatever the FK they call it now). There also used to be alot of chicas around the horse statue and several other statues too and it was much easier doing laps around the church and the bar street and come back down again to see who might have been missed on the first go around.
And all the stupid tourists with their families weren't there to get in the way. And if you wanted a single cigarette you didn't have to walk outside the barriers to buy one from a vendor.
I'll be heading down there tomorrow to check it out, I look forward to Botero Plaza getting back to normal. God knows it's about time.
-Gabacho.[/QUOTE]1st off thanks for the pics you posted, looks so different without the barriers. I was there last April when they were in place and felt safe. A change in vibe once you leave and start walking down the street past the church. The woman are more touchy feely as you walk by, I felt I was being watched, constantly looking over my shoulder. I don't know how you guys have the balls to go to Centro at night, after 6 pm. I would like to try, but with someone perhaps for my first few times my next trip next month. I 100% agree that the barriers were a good thing and made mongering easier in centro.
[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2882889]In about 3 weeks once my lease is up I'm heading to Bog for the rest of my 6 mo. Then won't be back in this BS. I can get hawkers anywhere heck prob North Korea will be safer at this point. Be safe out there.[/QUOTE]
I haven't travelled the entire world, but I am very impressed by the beauty, youth, passion and low prices of Medellin girls. If you like girls of Spanish ancestry then this is paradise. I can't wait to get back. But go to the "erotic massage salons" aka brothels. Anything else is Russian roulette. Unless you enjoy that kind of danger, excitement, living on the edge situation, don't do it.
And besides violent crime, if you pick up girls on the street or off the internet, without some good Spanish language negotiating skills, you can easily get very overcharged. Like paying 300 K for a 50 K experience.
Also: If you are looking for a normal, not transactional, romantic relationship, whether something serious and long term or a short term hookup, then just stay home. You will find in the US, for free, the same women that you will find in Colombia, for free. The plane trip to Colombia did not transform you into a male model or rock star. The pesos do that. Lots of pesos.
[QUOTE=PigSavinBoy;2882793]clearly you haven't been visiting centro often (eg your last comment about chorizos place closed, which's been gone for a long time or the fact the passage behind museum was open, which was the same case for a while).
[/QUOTE]Yea I think I mentioned in some of my posts recently that I haven't been going to Centro as often as I used to. I think in the whole month of December I went maybe 3 or 4 times total. Also I don't always go inside the barriers as it was a waste of time to go in there. I would generally hit the pedestrian walkway between the church and Botero Real and then walk down to the bar street and pull girls from the yellow panaderia (yellow restaurant).
I believe during my May-June trip that Chorizos & Asados was still there if I remember correctly.
Also there is a whole lot more area outside of plaza botero itself where there are chicas, pedestrian walkway, the bar street, parque berrio metro stairs, prado area short time hotels (the area where they sell used and stolen stuff on the ground) , parque Bolivar in front of the water fountain, and last but not least a whole separate venue that no one on ISG ever seems to even mention called San Diego / La Cuarenta (after 10 pm).
So when I'm saying I go to Centro it doesn't necessarily mean inside of Botero Plaza.
[QUOTE=TexasPistol;2882924]I haven't travelled the entire world, but I am very impressed by the beauty, youth, passion and low prices of Medellin girls. If you like girls of Spanish ancestry then this is paradise. I can't wait to get back. But go to the "erotic massage salons" aka brothels. Anything else sounds to me like Russian roulette. Unless you enjoy that kind of danger, excitement, living on the edge situation, don't do it. And besides violent crime, if you pick up girls on the street or off the internet, without some good Spanish language negotiating skills, you can easily get very overcharged. Like paying 300 K for a 50 K experience.[/QUOTE]Spanish is pretty good and super low key. Prob why I survived almost 4 mos so far here without an incident. Most fellow mongers I meet that are here long-term also practice the common sense you wrote above. I work on a PC all day and I'm tired of seeing bad news, drugging, all this BS like daily now popping on my Youtube feed LOL. I'm like am I next or what?. But then I know I don't do dumb shit. Since I'm no longer using Tinder or apps, I try to meet randoms in person besides the typical erotic spas / casas, so I flirted with this beauty at the mall few days ago. Tall, model type, morena, 20 yrs, old. Amazingly got her attention and exchanged whatsapp and banged her on 12/31 in a love motel since I no longer bring new girls to my apt. We went to lunch first to discuss future arrangements like a GF / BF w benefits and agreed. Shit was so sweet OMG. Temporarily forgot all the medellin dramas and loved life for that entire 5 minutes I lasted LOL. Kidding I lasted a little longer but dang, aint nothing like nonpro latin pussy LOL. Rob me already lmao.
[QUOTE=TexasPistol;2882924]I haven't travelled the entire world, but I am very impressed by the beauty, youth, passion and low prices of Medellin girls. If you like girls of Spanish ancestry then this is paradise. I can't wait to get back. But go to the "erotic massage salons" aka brothels. Anything else is Russian roulette. Unless you enjoy that kind of danger, excitement, living on the edge situation, don't do it.
And besides violent crime, if you pick up girls on the street or off the internet, without some good Spanish language negotiating skills, you can easily get very overcharged. Like paying 300 K for a 50 K experience.
Also: If you are looking for a normal, not transactional, romantic relationship, whether something serious and long term or a short term hookup, then just stay home. You will find in the US, for free, the same women that you will find in Colombia, for free. The plane trip to Colombia did not transform you into a male model or rock star. The pesos do that. Lots of pesos.[/QUOTE]Your Edit is too funny for me to not reply to. You are 100% right, yet you wouldn't make that comment if we had profile pics LOL. Not all of us here are old farts. I'm not a male model but still young and look good and in shape. So yeah I can pull normal women from the states and also been doing that here and everywhere I travel. Good look or not why tf would any man in their 30's or 40's only fuck hookers forever? Geesh. No love ever? Further, before you write this type of dumb shit don't assume we all travel for pussy. Some of us are tired of paying 5 K rent apt in big cities and can barely save. So maybe it's ambition. Keyword matter notice I didn't say "affordability" LOL. . huge difference. Same with pussy, some travel to get that as a luxury, fun or debauchery, not a necessity.
[QUOTE=TexasPistol;2882924]You will find in the US, for free, the same women that you will find in Colombia, for free.[/QUOTE]If you are looking for an average looking woman in the USA, without student debt, without mental illness, without a kid, and who is not obese, you are down to 1% of all American women, and this is not even including if they have jobs. And even if you meet a top 1% woman, demand for her is going to be so through the roof, she will probably turn you down if you do ask her out. What is top 1% in the USA is a dime a dozen in Colombia.
[QUOTE=TexasPistol;2882924]The plane trip to Colombia did not transform you into a male model or rock star. The pesos do that. Lots of pesos.[/QUOTE]Average income in USA is $5000 a month or so. In Colombia, it is $500. If you are making $100,000 per year in the USA, you are doing okay. In Colombia, you are the equivalent of a millionaire.
[QUOTE=TexasPistol;2882924]Also: If you are looking for a normal, not transactional, romantic relationship, whether something serious and long term or a short term hookup, then just stay home. [/QUOTE]That is good advice if you are hanging around the hooker / stripper type. They will rob you blind. When you move up the socioeconomic chain, the women I have met have been trustworthy, great in bed, super smart, and immensely talented. Guys were so used to paying that I would have to tell them not to and tell them "Do not pay them and see if they really like you", and they were amazed when so often the women did not ask for money. Time and again, guys are amazed at how many women liked them for them.
Sure, there is a money component, and Colombian women are told to pursue men with money, but money drives American women too.
My current gal's favorite relative is her uncle, and I like him too. She says he is not macho, and I know what she means. He provides for his family, does not cheat on his wife, works hard, is smart, and is not cooking up ways to try to rip people like me off. I mention that because he is the only Colombian man I know like that. It amazed me how every woman I went out with had a half sister or brother because their father was off fucking some strange. They do not even try to hide it.
So the competition from the typical Colombian man is not much.
When I showed my friends a pic of my gal, they all said the same thing, "There is no way you could get a woman who likes that in the USA. " So I wanted to show a photo here of a woman who liked her, and I did. My gal's doppelganger was on the arm of a billionaire.
And I have met her friends. One gorgeous one came on hard to a 64 year old friend of mine who was married.
But you do not want to get messed up with a hooker / stripper / cam girl / stripper type in Colombia. It is just not as easy to meet the higher class women. They are busy. But they are way different than the entitled American woman. Way different.
[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2882889]Take a look at the thumbnail of this vid and I'm sure she could've gotten many of us. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rxs1B0cZH4[/URL].
Dude clearly broke some of rules or dumb shit not to do.
- She couldn't wait for his Uber and rushed him in her taxi. DUMB SHIT.
- She talked him into visiting her apt LMAO. Who the fuck does that? Why tf would any gringo go to a chica's apt unless you know her really well? - DUMB SHIT.
One of my centro gal told me few days ago that 3 gringos got killed via scopalomine like 2-3 weeks ago from centro rats and didn't even make the news. She said some girls don't even put it in your drinks, they would put the powder on their breast, neck, stomach area, and come close to you to hug you and baam you're scoped. Or while you're sitting especially. So watch out for that shit. In about 3 weeks once my lease is up I'm heading to Bog for the rest of my 6 mo. Then won't be back in this BS. I can get hawkers anywhere heck prob North Korea will be safer at this point.
Be safe out there.[/QUOTE]That's the biggest problem. I'm real smart about watching my drinks. Never leave it unattended, but since they are putting it on their body now, there is no escaping it. It's scary stuff. I say F Colombia now.