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[QUOTE=Montecristo; 1322479]Recently went to these places on soi 24 and 24/1.
I really would like more comments about Dream Heaven which is rarely mentioned here, perhaps the all inclusive structure (2. 200 full service for 90 minutes) , makes it in comparison a little bit more expensive than other places, but that 100-200 bahts difference.[/QUOTE]It is not. Couple of months before visited Annies, it is now 2500bht for full service.
[QUOTE=Montecristo; 1322479]Recently went to these places on soi 24 and 24/1.
She very nice all the time but as expected, limited english and also very inexperienced, and that may not be for the taste of all, but definitly an optifuck![/QUOTE]You make an interesting point on youth versus inexperience. After many years of oily massage experience I have concluded that the younger girls, whilst farm fresh
And inexperienced, do not provide the same variety of service that the older girls provide. I am not talking here of the 30+ year olds but of those who have worked
For four-five years in the business.
Unlike FLs or bar pick-ups at an oily there is no way of getting to know the masseuse before the session begins. Conversely there can be more care in the selection
With FLs and bar girls.
[QUOTE=Mua Tur;1322738]It is not. Couple of months before visited Annies, it is now 2500bht for full service.[/QUOTE]2500 for 2hrs (that we know is also relative, I never used the 2 full hrs but 90 minutes were ok for me) looks like Annie's went up in relation of the DrBJ arrival in the market, not to dump down the prices of the "sister" venues, DrBj Salon and DrBJ Nuru. This way every pocket finds a solution. A steep raise from the 2000 (and before if I well remember was 1700) taht took place when they intriduced the "shower" service (seems dropped) at a cheaper price. This, related to some weaker currency of some punters (euro) makes the increase even steeper. Somehow they should also figure out they market their product in an international economy environment. But maybe business did not drop siginficantly
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1322816]. Somehow they should also figure out they market their product in an international economy environment. But maybe business did not drop siginficantly[/QUOTE]Economics 101 (Thailand). When demand falls, increase prices.
If 10 widgets sell for 100 baht each every month. Income 1, 000 baht.
If demand slackens and sales are only 5 widgets, then the price should increase to 200 baht.
Thai economics takes this concept two steps further (I) by increasing the price to 250 baht / widget increasing income in a declining market to 1250 baht and (ii)
If there is even lower demand refuse to sell any widgets even at the original price.
Without having to read the whole forum which may have out dated info.
Can you make any comments about the following: True or false and up date info.
1. Places that do unlimited times without extra charge are: Mango, Tulip, Snow White, Cherry
Does this include anal at no up charge?
2. Say you book one of these: Oil Massage.
1 hour 400 baht.
1. 5 hours 600 baht.
2 hours 800 baht.
What additional goes to the girl for her service?
Do you pay her separate?
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1322816]2500 for 2hrs (that we know is also relative, I never used the 2 full hrs but 90 minutes were ok for me) looks like Annie's went up in relation of the DrBJ arrival in the market, not to dump down the prices of the "sister" venues, DrBj Salon and DrBJ Nuru. This way every pocket finds a solution. A steep raise from the 2000 (and before if I well remember was 1700) taht took place when they intriduced the "shower" service (seems dropped) at a cheaper price. This, related to some weaker currency of some punters (euro) makes the increase even steeper. Somehow they should also figure out they market their product in an international economy environment. But maybe business did not drop siginficantly[/QUOTE]Yes. 1700 was worth the money. 2000 maybe borderline. 2500 is definitely over the top for me.
[QUOTE=TConor; 1322950]Without having to read the whole forum which may have out dated info.
Info is current and up-to-date, read and learn.
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[QUOTE=TConor; 1322950]Without having to read the whole forum which may have out dated info.
Info is current and up-to-date, read and learn.[/QUOTE]Gee traveler sorry you are having such a bad day!
Since the first post here was 12-31-07 09:41 the forum can't be all up-to-date. So thanks again if you told me anything it would have probably been as accurate as your post.
[QUOTE=Jean 428; 1321385]Some general comments and then my opinion.
- in the parlors you mention the girls' skills and attitude are more important than their looks. This does not mean that all the girls at (for instance) Tulip or SW are dogs, on the contrary you may find some good or even very good looking gals there, but if what you seek is a broad choice of smoking hot girls, then you may consider other shops, for example in soi 33 or in Petchaburi. I am not an expert here but the service may not be at the same level though.
- don't pay too much attention at the photos in the web sites as they are often photoshopped. Some girls, in addition don't want them up and Tulip, unless my mistake, does not publish them at all. Maybe SW website has some reliable pics but then you may find that in person some girls look even better than in web.
- Better to have a look in person. Nong at SW, Nestle at Mango and Cherry are very cool girls, no problem at all to get in to take a look at the lineup and then leave if you don't find anyone you like. Just smile and say you'll maybe come back next time. In addition SW is at 30 secs walk from Cherry and Mango at 2/3 minutes.
Tulip can be a bit more intimidating when you don't know them. The place is larger, darker, you need to go downstair for the lineup and the lady at the desk stopped smiling some ten years ago. However the same concept applies, take the sky train, stop at Thong Lo and in 20 secs net you are inside the shop. Same time to be back on the BTS if you don't like what you see.
Now my personal ranking. Please keep in mind that in the recent weeks I visited only Mango and Cherry (reports on the thread) , even though I've known the shops for years.
1 Mango. 2 Snow White. 3 Tulip. 4 Cherry. Cherry is the newest one and in my understanding is working hard to quickly improve the lineup.[/QUOTE]I will be arriving in BKK mid week late evening and should be ready to monger be about 9. 30 pm. I have not been near a woman for nearly six months so I will be in a very tender state. I think my best option to get rid of the dirty water would be a visit to SW or Mango. What would the line up be like at that time, any rated ones available at that time. I know things have been very quiet in BKK so I'm presuming the ladies won't be too overworked at the moment. I could also visit Rin at Hana Massage for one of her famous ball massages. I think she might need a new ceiling after I shoot my load though.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1322816]A steep raise from the 2000 (and before if I well remember was 1700) taht took place when they intriduced the "shower" service (seems dropped) at a cheaper price.[/QUOTE]Couple of years before in my first visit in Annie I found they have 2 types of price structure. 1700bht and as well as 2500 bht. Forget the time limit.
[QUOTE=Mua Tur;1323111]Couple of years before in my first visit in Annie I found they have 2 types of price structure. 1700bht and as well as 2500 bht.[/QUOTE]Before there were two categories of masseuses. Now alls have been "promoted" to "sideliners"
[QUOTE=TConor; 1322950]Without having to read the whole forum which may have out dated info.
Can you make any comments about the following: True or false and up date info.
1. Places that do unlimited times without extra charge are: Mango, Tulip, Snow White, Cherry
Does this include anal at no up charge?
2. Say you book one of these: Oil Massage.
1 hour 400 baht.
1. 5 hours 600 baht.
2 hours 800 baht.
What additional goes to the girl for her service?
Do you pay her separate?[/QUOTE]Have you ever been to Thailand?
You wrote and all but demanded I give you exact locations of a couple of places out near the airport, Never saw any reports posted.
The questions you're now asking about you can probably write to the massage parlor and ask them, get it straight from the source.
I do hope your travels are fun and all of your needs are met, however you seem so needy I'm not sure any information you get will satisfy you.
In parts of the world that are economically depressed right now, P4P is either illegal (eg. USA) or quite expensive (eg. Western Europe). Comparatively, P4P in Thailand is much cheaper and much safer, compared to say the red light districts of India (unsafe) or parts of Africa (downright dangerous). In Canada for example, where P4P is not illegal. Prices at a reputable outcall service is about $200-$250 in Montreal, and $250-$300 in Toronto. That's for one hour! That's about four times the cost in Thailand! Thais are not stupid. They understand the economics of P4P better than most in the world. They realize and the rising prices notwithstanding, we still want to have our the*ks sucked, and want to have a slim, pretty, attentive girl in our bed from time to time, without strings attached. Commercial sex is recession-proof. Always has, and always will be.
[QUOTE=Scorchin1470; 1322827]Economics 101 (Thailand). When demand falls, increase prices.
If 10 widgets sell for 100 baht each every month. Income 1, 000 baht.
If demand slackens and sales are only 5 widgets, then the price should increase to 200 baht.
Thai economics takes this concept two steps further (I) by increasing the price to 250 baht / widget increasing income in a declining market to 1250 baht and (ii)
If there is even lower demand refuse to sell any widgets even at the original price.[/QUOTE]
Avoid Yuki at Dream Heaven 24/1. I'm not going to bore ya'll with details, but the cliff note version is she's too young / new (20) , didn't have a clue, and her English was non existent. I did address the problem to mamas-an after the session and hopefully they'll teach her the right way, but it might be all for not, doubt she will last very long there.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=Dale Arnold;1323165]In parts of the world that are economically depressed right now, P4P is either illegal (eg. USA) or quite expensive (eg. Western Europe). Comparatively, P4P in Thailand is much cheaper and much safer, compared to say the red light districts of India (unsafe) or parts of Africa (downright dangerous). In Canada for example, where P4P is not illegal. Prices at a reputable outcall service is about $200-$250 in Montreal, and $250-$300 in Toronto. That's for one hour! That's about four times the cost in Thailand! Thais are not stupid. They understand the economics of P4P better than most in the world. They realize and the rising prices notwithstanding, we still want to have our the*ks sucked, and want to have a slim, pretty, attentive girl in our bed from time to time, without strings attached. Commercial sex is recession-proof. Always has, and always will be.[/QUOTE]In business, suppliers can only ask the price customers are willing to pay. Otherwise they end up empty handed. As long as there are enough guys accepting those offers they will continue to rise. For me the maths is quite easy: I can get a nice girl on a Sunday in Hong Kong for 2000 Baht and she will stay for hours and demand one pop more than I can do. During the week there are so many options on 141 walkups for the same price. Why should I bear travel expenses and overspend on pussy in a country where the average monthly salary is 3 times a ST price.